Here is an eye-opening article that shows the mainstream narrative of Trump’s “racism” for what it is. “This piece is not a defence of Donald Trump.” It is something more insightful, and valuable, than that.
“Donald Trump is good for Middle Eastern Christians,” by Najwa Najib, Medium, October 29, 2016:
The 2016 presidential election has turned into a breeding ground for op-eds about every possible topic under the sun, though most focus on Donald Trump and the supposed danger he poses to the world in general and to Muslims in particular. People who have absolutely no right to speak on topics of domestic policy, foreign policy, Islam, whatever, have suddenly been given soapboxes. Where these used to be targets at which we all mostly rolled our eyes, they are now elevated. Off the top of my head, I can think of big names with big things to say about Donald Trump’s policies. Louis CK compares Trump’s run to “being Germany in the ’30s,” where apparently they did not “[see] the shit coming”. In a New York Times op-ed, Aziz Ansari, not a practicing Muslim, fears for his Muslim family’s safety because he thinks that, in rounding 0.03% of Muslims being investigated for potential ISIS extremism down to 0, those 1,000 under investigation will do the same damage as 0 extremists could. Jill Soloway, creator of a show no one wants to watch, said in the press room following her Emmy win that “any moment [she has] to call Trump out to being an inheritor to Hitler, [she] will,” because Trump apparently ‘otherises’ Muslims. This defence of Muslims comes after screaming “topple the patriarchy” twice on stage during the actual show. She defended Islam, the inherently patriarchal religion whose adherents gruesomely and happily punish the “Jewish people, queer folk, trans folk” she patted herself on the back for featuring on her television show in her Emmy acceptance speech. Clearly, Jill Soloway’s grasp of Islam is matched only by Aziz Ansari’s statistical genius and Louis CK’s history knowledge.
While simultaneously pushing the narrative that Donald Trump’s candidacy would not have been possible without the media — apparently, the Hollywood elite feel that Donald Trump’s history-making run for President is due to Celebrity Apprentice and not to a widespread fatigue of the self-congratulating same-old same-old — the media also pushes the notion that Donald Trump is Hitler. Donald Trump is Hitler on the Emmys stage. Donald Trump is Hitler in the New York Times. Donald Trump is Hitler in newsletters. Donald Trump is Hitler anywhere that statement can be repeated, over and over again, unopposed and unchallenged.
Other more invested people can write and have written about how of course Donald Trump is not Hitler, about the sheer audacity of saying such a thing about a man whose daughter and grandchildren are Jewish. Those people might also explain how Führer Trump could only have run and won in 2016 because of that audacity, because of what the media pass for truth, because of the death of journalistic integrity.
But this piece is not a defence of Donald Trump.
I don’t know if I’m allowed to write passionately and honestly about anything, even about the continued genocide and erasure of my people and of all Middle Eastern Christian peoples. Where does this lament for my people fit in a world where click-bait and listicles pollute what’s left of journalism and where it seems almost everyone operates under the notion that “Donald Trump is literally Hitler”? My people — Middle Eastern and North African Christians, Arabs, Assyrians, Armenians, Coptic, Catholic, Orthodox, etc. — where do we fit?
Social Justice Warriors and Wankers
Today, black Americans are allowed to carry on as if they are the most persecuted people in the world, as if such a thing could be measured and as if any data point to them as inherently oppressed. I guess bullying and guilting white people is a win, a win leading to unearned invitations to the Oscars, thinkpieces about sitting out the national anthem, and a shift from an important conversation about violence in inner cities to cop killings that, following the Aziz Ansari method, amount to an infinitesimal number of deaths. This win allows black Americans part of this movement to say that black lives matter (which, sure, OK) but also that all white people are terrible. All white people are supposed to “check their privilege” and stop pushing their “mayo” opinions on people. White is bland and boring and violent and hateful. Fifty years ago, black activists and their allies sought to end segregation. In 2016, blacks want ‘safe spaces,’ places where they segregate themselves from others, and no non-blacks can possibly be allies because we are all part of the problem and everyone is an anti-black racist and Donald Trump is literally Hitler. This is of course ridiculous but actually it is not. This is the majority’s way of thinking now. This is what we have devolved into. Everyone is either a racist or a self-hating ally or black.
But what about Middle Eastern Christians? Where do we fit?
Middle Eastern Christians are not white or black or bound by Western ideas of race and privilege. There is indeed privilege in the Middle East but it is not racial. Actually, privilege extends only to Muslims. In the Middle East, all the things black people wrongly complain about are true for non-Muslims. Black Americans can pretend they are oppressed but they can run for office, they can own land, they can worship freely, they can sit out national anthems, they can work and provide for themselves and their families, they can rest in their graves undisturbed. Middle Eastern Christians by and large can’t do any of that. Wanting people to like you is not a civil rights issue, no matter how much the Black Lives Matter movement tries. In the Middle East — a blanket term for the Levant, the Gulf, North Africa, whatever country geopolitical analysts ascribe to it on any given day — Muslims don’t like non-Muslims and that has for 1,400 years meant that we cannot live proverbially or literally. To be clearer, Muslims take our livelihoods and our lives. Muslims are the white people of the Middle East but with the added social justice bonus of every charge against them actually being true.
I personally think that the Quran is garbage and that the prophet of Islam was not a great guy. (I’d phrase that differently but then some Muslims might blow the publishers’ headquarters up. Doesn’t seem worth it.) If anyone is literally Hitler, Mohammad’s mass killings of Jews and other non-Muslims, his conquests and warmongering campaigns, his slaves, his propensity for rape, make him a pretty good candidate. (I personally think and believe these things and get enjoyment out of saying them because people do not want me to. But real criticisms of Islam come from its ex-Muslim scholars and their stuff is available to read and dissect everywhere. (And people really should because guess what? We’re all kuffar in this together.))
My issue, right now, is not Islam but is Muslims. I don’t mean the Muslims in the ISIS videos, either. I mean regular Muslims, the non-silent majority of Muslims.
Muslim Victims and Muslims’ Victims
Muslims are not innocent. Sure, if we pretend all Muslims in the world are the self-righteously offended ones who do not like Donald Trump, then maybe we can find a way to cry for whatever perceived wrongs people like Linda Sarsour and Hend Amry are making careers out of. Most Muslims, though, live in the Middle East or in places like Indonesia and Malaysia and Pakistan, where they treat non-Muslims with the same hate and violence and psychopathic homicidal delight that Middle Eastern Muslims reserve for my people. In reality, most Muslims are not Aziz Ansari’s family and they’re not ISIS. Most Muslims are just everyday jerks, enjoying the spoils of their ‘privilege,’ happily forcing non-Muslims in general and Christians in particular to eat it. I would not ordinarily take the time to be eloquent about the treatment of my people and then devolve into calling Muslims “jerks” but, hey, if it’s good enough for white people…
That is my main problem. If oppression, whether perceived or real, means that the victims have the right to say anything about their oppressors because their victimhood absolves them of basic decency, then Middle Eastern Christians, African Christians, Pakistani Christians, Indonesian Christians, etc. should be the only people allowed an opinion about Muslims. We are not a monolith but most of us do not have much good to say.
So let’s talk.
In Egypt, Copts are “garbage people”. The Zabaleen, a literal translation, are trash collectors who must also live from and among that trash on the outskirts of the rest of society because, for the average Egyptian Muslim, that’s all a Christian should be entitled to. The government in Egypt blocks the construction of Coptic churches and hardly reacts when those already standing are torched by Muslims weekly. Copts are considered suspicious by Muslims: they are educated and humble so their girls and women are therefore worth kidnapping for the purpose of forced conversion and marriage. Despite the beheadings of 21 Copts in an ISIS video, it is not ISIS that poses the biggest day-to-day risk to Copts. It’s just Muslims.
In Iraq and Syria, Assyrians are on their way out. A proud people that have maintained their ethnoreligious identity and, unlike the Copts and against all odds, have kept their liturgical and colloquial languages intact, Assyrians have suffered several genocides and massacres since adopting Christianity in its infancy. Since 2003, Assyrian populations have plummeted. Church massacres, displacement, etc. all precede ISIS and, when Mosul fell to the group, it is mostly because so many of the Sunni residents welcomed it. Assyrians, indigenous to the Middle East, will soon be wiped from it. It takes a long time to wipe an indigenous people from its land. It takes about 1,400 years.
In the rest of the Middle East, Christians fare no better. Churches are torched, large Muslim mobs are encouraged to harm Christians by sheer ineffectual Muslim policing, apostasy is punishable by death both by Middle Eastern governments and by proud Muslim parents who honour-kill their deviating-from-Islam children. In Jordan, sharia is given priority by the government.Sharia bans conversion from Islam and prohibits children who do not convert to Islam with their parents from receiving inheritances. In Saudi Arabia, being openly Christian is a crime. In Yemen, killings of nuns doing charity work supporting an entirely Muslim population have been documented for over 20 years. The swell propelling all of this is just Muslims.
Muslim concepts like jizya — a tax for non-Muslims that amounts to no more than a protection racket — have allowed Muslims to subjugate non-Muslims in the Middle East for centuries. Middle Eastern Christian history has been bulldozed, painted over, ruined. I could forgive that if it had remained history but Muslims have never stopped. Conquests and the cultural changing of hands is part and parcel of civilisation-making but Muslims still do it while simultaneously claiming to be oppressed and blaming American imperialism for the state of the Middle East as if pan-islamisation is not the real culprit. For Muslims and in Islam, Muslim supremacy is to be enforced with an iron fist — more appropriately, with a sword.
Inevitably, Muslims will point to ancient holy wars to forgive their collective history. “But the Crusades!” Crusaders did not much differentiate between the Muslim and non-Muslim people they came to fight and Middle Eastern Christians, with the exception of Lebanese Christians who fought with the Crusaders, took the brunt of the fighting between the knights and the Saracens. Besides, even with a series of Crusades launched, the Crusaders eventually stopped. Muslims haven’t.
Where do we fit?
Communal Pain
Most Middle Eastern Christians can’t trace their family trees back more than a couple of generations. I can’t trace my family tree back more than a couple of generations. The ones before them were exterminated or chased away from one home to another. The churches that kept their records were burned, destroyed. Some oral history of both sides of my family remains and some of it is substantiated by genealogical studies and migration maps. It’s a sad state of affairs, a multi-century cycle of being exiled and orphaned. I do not know the names of great-grandparents, of those before them. I’ll never know. All I know is what was done to us and who did it.
But I’m apparently not allowed to mourn this and I’m also not allowed to talk about what Muslims still do to us because that’s somehow racist. Muslims are brown and brown is better than white so I should just shut up about 1,400 years of oppression. If by sheer dumb luck there is an audience receptive to Middle Eastern Christians’ justified wariness of Muslims, it’s the right-wing Protestant contingent, sympathetic to our plight so long as we forsake our rites and become Bible-thumping evangelicals, born again and divorced from the first and oldest Churches.
Where do we fit?
It hurts me when I see Muslims and non-Muslims both shouting Middle Eastern Christian voices down. It wounds me. It kills my ancestors all over again. It burdens our coming generations with genetic bitterness and anger. And I’m jealous. I’m jealous of how deftly Muslims in the West have scrubbed their history and their hellish Allahu akbar mobs from the discourse. I’m jealous of how they have aligned themselves to movements like Black Lives Matter which demonise both white people and Christianity for being their religion (“Christianity is the white man’s religion”). I’m jealous of how they have shielded themselves from criticism, shielded their religion from criticism. And I’m angry.
I’m angry that my people — my ancestors, my family back home — have been stabbed in the back, have had their mouths muffled by those in the West with whom we happily and successfully integrated. Middle Eastern Christians came to America 100 years ago and we made it better, as doctors, lawyers, scientists, law-makers, engineers, entrepreneurs. Now, when we talk about the Muslims who drove us here because we feared for our lives, it’s the white Americans who once welcomed us who shut us up. Black deaths at the hands of a select few police officers apparently warrant more of a platform than hundreds of years of unrecognised genocides. Muslims who make a couple of superficial gestures to support black activism (laughably, Muslim groups — masters of PR, if nothing else — raised money to rebuild black churches in America but have never done anything to rebuild Middle Eastern churches and Churches they themselves destroyed) fall on the right side of what’s acceptable. Middle Eastern Christians with justified reservations? Not so much.
So we don’t fit. Everyone is either a racist or a self-hating ally or black. Brown Middle Eastern Christians Lives Don’t Matter.
On Presidents and Prophets
In 2012, at an event as global and critically important as the United Nations General Assembly, President Obama, after using Copts, women, and broke students as talking points, said that the future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam. That’s a direct quote, one that gets a lot of play in the alt-right spheres of the internet, on the Facebook accounts of hillbillies who are convinced that Obama is a secret/not-so-secret Muslim intent on destroying the Constitution and replacing it with whatever hadith most Muslims can agree on. I don’t think that’s likely. Obama has killed thousands of Muslims through his drone strikes, his policies on Libya (aka the new and thriving capital of the so-called Islamic State), his arming of death-mongering ‘Syrian rebels’. Apparently, the future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam but it’s ripe for the taking for American presidents who wholesale kill his followers.
But still. He said it. He said it on a global stage. He said in English what Quranic Arabic has proclaimed for 1,400 years. In Islam, those who do not follow the Muslim idea of Allah are disbelievers to be fought, vanquished. Muslims have always believed that the future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam and they’ve left a trail of Middle Eastern Christian blood behind them where they’ve instated that belief.
But maybe it’s better if Middle Eastern Christians aren’t remembered by the political class. Ted ‘Zodiac’ Cruz, before he became a footnote in a book about the intersection of memes and politics, said to us that, “If [we] will not stand with Israel and Jews, then [he] will not stand with [us]”. Never mind that Israel persecutes Christians, picking up the slack for Middle Eastern Muslims on the rare occasions they drop it. John McCain looked downright suicidal when a Syrian Christian woman held him and America accountable for what they have done to Syria, to Syria’s Christians. His callous lack of emotional response — a microcosmic representation of American foreign policy — did not change, even as she told him that Middle Eastern Christians are sick and tired of being considered collateral damage by most of the American political class. (It’s also worth mentioning that Senator Robert Black, GOP member of the Virginia Senate, has been lampooned by Democrats and Republicans alike for his support of the Syrian Arab Army, support which notably stems from the Army’s protection of Syria’s Christians.)
Hillary Clinton, a bloodthirsty war hawk even by the standards of the Clinton-friendliest of publications, pushes for intervention, considers Libya a win, and wants to do the same to Syria. Where will Syria’s Christians, including indigenous Assyrians, go then? If ISIS bastion Libya is a win, what does Clinton, noted warmonger and harbinger of death, have planned for Syria’s Christians?
American presidential candidates aren’t good for Middle Eastern Christians. That is, they weren’t, before Trump.
Donald Trump Is Good for Middle Eastern Christians
Donald Trump had no business running for president. He’s not presidential material, whatever that means, and he’s not part of the political elite who subscribe to the same rhetoric and stances. (Ask people in the Middle East if bombs raining down on them from Republican presidents are different from the ones Democrats send.) Trump was supposed to be a joke. You’re not allowed to say ‘crazy’ things when you’re running for president and you’re certainly not allowed to win Republican primaries, become the Republican nominee, and change the political landscape forevermore.
It’s that last one that really interests me.
Like him or not, Donald Trump is effectively changing the world. We’ve thrown out ideas of traditional candidates, acceptable sound bites, political correctness. In his brash presence in this election, Trump has carved a place out for those of us who did not fit anywhere before. Sure, the alt-right loves him and the liberal left hates him but in the hubbub of their back-and-forth those of us previously left out have found a way in. We can now ask Muslims outraged at Trump’s run why his words are more offensive to them than Clinton killing and displacing thousands of Muslims. We can now point out that Omar Mateen was an extremist by everyone’s standards but the mosque he attended where anti-gay rhetoric was spewed regularly is attended by the ‘moderate Muslims’ liberals love to court so much. We can now interject with a pointed “um, no” when Muslims in the West claim that they pose no danger to America because they live “side-by-side with Christians” back home.
Middle Eastern Christians relish this: we can finally call Muslims out on their hypocrisy but, more importantly, we have a voice. That’s not something Hitler went around giving people, I’m pretty sure.…
Read the rest here.

Cretius says
Slander to Muslims in any non-believer who quotes Islamic teachings or their prophet. Obama must know that fact.
Linde Barrera says
Heart wrenching, well written article. I did not understand 1 point the author made when she said “Never mind that Israel persecutes Christians, picking up the slack for Middle Eastern Muslims…” Can anyone explain that one to me? I have never heard that Israel persecuted anyone.
Lynne says
That puzzled me as well.
Mac-101 says
I do not know, but have read that some Orthodox Jews in certain areas spit on Christians and other such acts. Nothin like the discrimination of Christians in Bethlehem NOW by their Arab Muslim Brothers.
gravenimage says
Linde Barrera wrote:
Heart wrenching, well written article. I did not understand 1 point the author made when she said “Never mind that Israel persecutes Christians…
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Unfortunately, quite a number of Middle Eastern Christians have picked up this canard–you hear this dhimmitude quite frequently.
Brigitte Gabriel was brought up as a Lebanese Christian to hate Jews–this changed when Israeli doctors saved her mother’s life after they had been shelled by Muslims.
Linde Barrera says
To gravenimage- Hi dear Graven, your posts always enlighten me! Thank you for informing me about Brigitte Gabriel as a Lebanese Christian being brought up to hate Jews, and also that Jewish doctors saved her mom’s life. Sometimes there is just no explanation for the turn of events in our lives except that the invisible hand of God seems to be in it! Take good care and be safe Gravenimage.
Mirren10 says
Linde Barrera says:
”I have never heard that Israel persecuted anyone.”
http://www.persecution.com/public/restrictednations.aspx?clickfrom=bWFpbl9tZW51
It’s certainly not what I, or you, probably, would call persecution. I think Najwa Najib, as graven notes, has imbibed the sort of anti-Semitism embedded in muslims, and is reacting as a dhimmi.
You’ll note from the link that even they admit that Israeli government policy enshrines religious freedom. Their designation of Israel as ‘hostile’ to Christians seems to arise from anti-Christian *muslim* feeling, occurring mainly in Gaza (they appear not to have noticed that Gaza is no longer under Israeli control) and occasional ”price tagging” of Christian Churches.
What they **don’t** mention is that price taggers, when caught, have been prosecuted and fined/jailed. To be fair, they do note that the Jewish terrorist Teitel was sentenced to 30 years for sending a bomb to a Jewish convert to Christianity.
Their other reason for designating Israel as hostile, seems to be that religious Jews object to being proselytised by Christians.
Linde Barrera says
To Mirren10- As per your 10:18 am, Nov 7, 2016 comment about Israel, thank you! You made it clearer for me, Mirren10. I hope Scotland is overall proud for leaving the EU. I hope France leaves next, then Greece, then others. Take care, be safe Mirren10.
Angemon says
Mirran10 posted:
“Their other reason for designating Israel as hostile, seems to be that religious Jews object to being proselytised by Christians.”
I have no problem believing that some Jews in Israel despise Christians and even explicitly discriminate against them, or assault Christian clerics in the street. The existence of individuals who act like that, however, is not synonym with institutionalized, state sponsored persecution of Christians. There have been some articles featured in JW about the surge of Arab (i.e., “Palestinian”) Christians joining the IDF.
Angemon says
Mirren10, not Mirran10. Note to self: go to bed early today 🙂
gravenimage says
Good post, Mirren.
Jay Boo says
Gravenimage
Now — Now
I think you are sailing a bit off course to do a tit-for-tat on Christians.
Since you brought that up about Brigitte Gabriel, was she taught to hate Jews as a Christian as your post seems to imply or as an Arab listening to state media?
http://www.jnf.org/about-jnf/in-your-area/speakers/brigitte-gabriel.html
Linde Barrera says
To Jay Boo- As per your 11:49 pm comment of Nov. 6, 2016 mentioning Gravenimage, I don’t think Gravenimage does tit-for-tat. She has a much bigger intellect than that, and she is also so very honest.
gravenimage says
Jay Boo wrote:
Gravenimage
Now — Now
I think you are sailing a bit off course to do a tit-for-tat on Christians.
Since you brought that up about Brigitte Gabriel, was she taught to hate Jews as a Christian as your post seems to imply or as an Arab listening to state media?
http://www.jnf.org/about-jnf/in-your-area/speakers/brigitte-gabriel.html
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Please don’t think I was sniping at Christians here, Jay Boo–certainly, I was not.
According to her autobiography, Brigitte Gabriel learned that Jews were to be hated though multiple sources–at home, through Christian and Muslim media, and through Christian and Muslim neighbors, even though she never even met a Jew until taking her mother for medical care in Israel.
Most of this hatred was vague, and generally focused on claims that Jews were somehow bad people. Unlike, say, “Palestinian” Muslims, she was not taught to want to murder Jews.
I am in no way implying that this hatred is genuinely a Christian position–of course, it is not–just that, sadly, many dhimmis trapped in Dar-al-Islam absorb and adopt the views of their Muslim overlords. This is especially common vis-a-vis Jews and Israel.
Robert Spencer himself has commented on this phenomenon many times. In fact, his ancestors fled oppression in Turkey.
Here is one such article:
“Melkite Greek Catholic Patriarch: ‘No one defends Islam like Arab Christians’”
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/01/melkite-greek-catholic-patriarch-no-one-defends-islam-like-arab-christians
This is actually somewhat understandable–dhimmis under the Muslim heel have *had to* toady to Muslims in order to survive–and that often means denouncing the ‘enemies’ of Islam.
Mark Durie touches on this phenomenon in his book on dhimmitude, “The Third Choice”.
Sympathy–and I am *very* sympathetic to oppressed Christians and other threatened Infidels–still does not mean this this is not an ugly phenomenon.
Brigitte Gabriel changed her mind when she experienced the astonishing kindness and decency of Israelis, even in the face of antipathy and sometimes even hostility from many of the people they were helping–but many Lebanese–even those receiving excellent and free medical care–did not.
Champ says
Jay Boo wrote:
Gravenimage
Now — Now
I think you are sailing a bit off course to do a tit-for-tat on Christians.
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Jay Boo, how did you arrive at such a wild conclusion?
And I *completely* agree with Linde Barrera.
Linde Barrera says
To Champ- Hi Champ, thank you for being in agreement with me, as per your post of 2:30 am, Nov. 7, 2016. And I will vote for Trump, be sure of that. (I also made 2 small monetary contributions to his campaign in the past 2 months.) Champ, I am really scared for the future of the United States if Hillary Clinton gets elected. Take good care and be safe, Champ.
Angemon says
Pan-arabism, which tried to rally Arab Christians and muslims together under a banner other than religion, portrayed Israel as the common enemy. For example, Muhammad ‘Abd Al-Sattar, a deputy minister in Assad’s government said, in 2006:
Jay Boo says
gravenimage
While your comment may not have been meant as a tit-for-tat, you have not proven your statement as written. I am familiar with Gabriel misperception about Israelis and her change of heart at an Israeli hospital as I am sure many other commenters are. But, you have a lack of evidence supporting your implied extrapolation. Your link is irrelevant because it is not only a mere generalization which doesn’t even prove (Hate) but is 99% about a fearful dhimmi selling out fellow Christians and only one sentence about him not wanting to be seen and be caught appearing to support Israel and running off with his tail between his legs.Your link to Arab Dhimmi’s attempting to appease Muslims to survive day to day persecution is a broad generalization and does not prove the specific assumption about “Brigitte Gabriel was brought up as a Lebanese Christian to hate Jews Gabriel” in the least. In fact it does not even prove that any Lebanese Christians or any other Arab Christians (hate) Israel.
Mirren10 says
Jay Boo:
”Gravenimage
Now — Now
I think you are sailing a bit off course to do a tit-for-tat on Christians.”
Graven doesn’t do ‘tit for tat’. That’s the kind of petty nonsense *you* indulge in.
Champ says
Thank you, dear Linde!
gravenimage says
Jay Boo, if you don’t like my first link, how about this one:
“Palestinian Christian: We Still Hate Jews Too Much”
http://www.israeltoday.co.il/NewsItem/tabid/178/nid/30159/Default.aspx
Please note: I am *not* bashing Christians here; I am showing how living under dhimmitude warps even good people.
And there are brave exceptions–not just Brigitte Gabriel and the “Palestinian” Christian in the story above, but also good people like these:
“Israeli Christians take to the streets to rally for Israel, against Hamas and Muslim persecution of Christians”
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/08/israeli-christians-take-to-the-streets-to-rally-for-israel-against-hamas-and-muslim-persecution-of-christians
Note what Robert Spencer has to say here:
“This is a most positive development. Although Jews and Christians face the same fate under Islamic law — subjugation as dhimmis and denial of basic rights — the unhappy history of Christian anti-Semitism and the near-universal denial of the reality of the Islamic jihad, among innumerable other factors, have prevented the formation of any large-scale cooperative efforts. The Arab nationalist movement, which is now nearly moribund but was the dominant ideology in the Middle East just a few years ago, also co-opted Arabic-speaking Christians into parroting the Islamic supremacist agenda, out of a “shared Arab identity.” Freedom lovers may hope that the noxious idea that the oppressor and the oppressed have common interests will be forever consigned to the dustbin of history, and that rallies like this one will be the beginning of much more Jewish/Christian cooperation in defense of freedom…”.
Robert Spencer is not bashing Christians here–he is a devout Christian himself. Nor is he slamming people living as threatened dhimmis–his own grandparents fled oppression in Turkey.
gravenimage says
Thank you Linde, Angemon, Champ and Mirren.
gravenimage says
One final point, Jay Boo–I understand dhimmitude perhaps more than some people here, having grown up in an abusive home and having had to do a certain amount of appeasing to survive. It is possible to be sympathetic to a person’s plight, yet still recognize with a clear eye the moral compromises that this can sometimes entail.
Linde Barrera says
To gravenimage- As per your 12:11 am comment of Nov.8, 2016, I am so very sad to read you grew up in an abusive home. But look how well you turned out! You never fail to amaze and impress me. God bless you. Love from Linde.
gravenimage says
Thank you so much, Linde–I much appreciate your kind words!
Trico says
Wikileaks & Courts: Obama-Hillary Administration was Operating a US Islamic Caliphate ”
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“Only 56 of the 11,000 Syrian refugees brought into the U.S. this year are Christians. This sparked the American Center for Law and Justice to demand the Obama administration provide documentation showing what it’s doing to help Christians suffering persecution.
And snooping into Hillary’s emails from Wikileaks reveals Muslims got special privileges.”
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http://sonsoflibertymedia.com/wikileaks-courts-obama-hillary-admin-operating-us-islamic-caliphate/
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TR says
Perhaps the Syrian Christians assimulate to well into the Conservative Culture here in the USA for Obama to wish them here for the much needed asylum. Syrian Christians have made excellent citizens within the years they have been living in the USA. A more stanch patriotic group of USA Citizens are not easily found.
Seems Obama and the rest of his Revolutionary Radical Socialist staff and allies of the Muslim Brotherhood advisory board would rather bring in more Radical Islamic Hostile Insurgents from terrorist organizations in the Middle East to defend his interests in accomplishing his agenda to dominate the USA with his planned Totalitarian Regime..
Mac-101 says
Exactly, Out of KAOS, ORDER!
Ernie says
Right!
bob ingersol says
Who the fuck cares what a “lebanese christian” thinks about anything? Trump wouldn’t let this clown into the country. You people are idiots.
Linde Barrera says
To Bob Ingersoll- Who cares what you think? And maybe you are the clown for your heartlessness. Let me guess, you are an arrogant Islamist! If I’m right, TAKE A HIKE. This website subscribes to free speech but DO NOT INTERPRET that to mean trashy, foul mouthed, disgusting piggishness. ?☟?
Ernie says
Thank you Linde , I ditto your comment !
Linde Barrera says
To Ernie- As per your comment of 5:49 am, Nov. 7, 2016, thank you Ernie, for being in agreement with me. (I pray or everyone who comments here, even arrogant trolls such as Ingersol!) I believe you are in Germany or The Netherlands right now? Take care, be safe, and God bless you and yours, Ernie. +
Ernie says
Thank you Linde for your well wishes , and for your prayers . I really appreciate it . May the Lord our G-d bless you , and yours and keep you all safe and healthy Linde , in Jesus Name Amen !
Ernie says
P.S. And yes Linde , I’m living in The Netherlands , and a proud Dutchman ! May the Lord our G-d bless the American people , and make Donald Trump victorious tomorrow , I’ll pray for that . We hope and pray , and stand with you . Love : Ernie
Linde Barrera says
To Ernie- ????❤❤
gravenimage says
Linde and Ernie, 🙂
gravenimage says
bob ingersol wrote:
Who the fuck cares what a “lebanese christian” thinks about anything? Trump wouldn’t let this clown into the country. You people are idiots.
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What claptrap. Trump said he wanted to vet Jihadist Muslims–not Christians.
Jay Boo says
Trump should deport illegal alien Barack Obama for taking too long to come up with a likely forged birth certificate and put Hillary in Federal Prison for treason.
Ernie says
I CARE !
Kay says
I care. I am praying for ME Christians daily.
Linde Barrera says
To Kay- I pray daily for all Christians everywhere, especially those living in Muslim majority countries. Take good care, Kay, and thank you for all your thoughtful comments here.
gravenimage says
Lebanese Christian: “Donald Trump is good for Middle Eastern Christians”
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Yes–certainly, much better than the alternative…
Jay Boo says
Muslim 101
Same old basic game plan.
Hillary instigates attacks on Trump’s larger rallies out of jealousy.
Hillary calls Trump’s supporters deplorables.
Leftist media demonizes Trump and supporters.
Republican headquarters vandalized one even firebombed.
As a counter narrative to the firebombing of Republican firebombing, Mississippi black church in 80 % black community supposedly fire bombed by a supposed Trump supporter who was supposedly stupid enough to spray paint Vote Trump as if it were not obvious that such an attack would play against Trump and give cover to those who firebombed Trump headquarters.
Why does a Google search pull up only 3 day old news on this at last check.
BTW South Carolina shooter just happens to go on trial tomorrow.
All too coincidental.
My prediction is …
Hillary wants to start a race war so she can pat herself on the back and stoke her ego.
Kay says
Yeah, talk about politics of fear– that’s exactly what POTUS, on campaign for Hillary is doing, suggesting Trump would bring back the klan.
Looks like our Pope is taking a cheap shot against Trump with his “walls” comment.
Champ says
TRUMP DEEPENS COMMITMENT TO ISRAEL
By Adam Eliyahu Berkowitz November 4, 2016
In the final days before election, Republican Presidential candidate, Donald Trump, has deepened his connection to Israel, personally and politically, in several significant moves.
On Wednesday, Trump signed on a letter presented by two major pro-Israel Christian organizations, which calls for moving the US Embassy to Jerusalem. The letter, posted online as a petition and organized by the American Christian Leaders for Israel (ACLI) and the International Christian Embassy Jerusalem (ICEJ), called for the following commitments:
Implement the Jerusalem Embassy Act of 1995 and relocate the US Embassy in Israel to its capital city of Jerusalem.
Renew and strengthen the US’s Memorandum of Understanding to fund Israel’s growing security needs.
Combat any efforts at the local, state, or federal level to boycott, divest from, or sanction Israel.
Monitor Iran’s ongoing violations of sanctions and to toughen current sanctions as well as impose new ones as necessary.
Oppose any imposed solutions to the Palestinian conflict on Israel by outside parties, including the United Nations Security Council.
Since it was posted, approximately 650 Christian leaders have signed the letter, and over 40,000 people have signed the online petition.
Excerpt:
http://www.breakingisraelnews.com/78036/trump-deepens-commitment-israel/?utm_source=Breaking+Israel+News&utm_campaign=91fe34a753-BIN_morning_11_16&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_b6d3627f72-91fe34a753-86676993&mc_cid=91fe34a753&mc_eid=feb64e4f29#kwLqYuboRE7q5y6s.97
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Vote 4 TRUMP!
Champ says
Trump Very Pro Israel, Clinton Most Anti Israel Ever
Published on Sep 8, 2016
“Ezra Levant on The Rebel talks to Jews about how pro-Israel Donald Trump is, and how very anti-Israel Hillary Clinton is. Clinton gives a pro-Israel appearance here in the US, but in the Middle East she follows the money in places like KSA, Qatar, Kuwait, and the UAE. These rich Arab countries have contributed millions of dollars to the Clinton Foundation.”
gravenimage says
Good to hear, Champ–thanks.
Champ says
“Good to hear”
Indeed!
And you’re welcome, Graven.
Shmooviyet says
Champ: Thank you for posting the link as well as the video.
I’ve heard HC toss off “antisemitism” here and there, when repeating her list of ‘deplorables’ charges against Trump supporters, and that one always sounded the most hypocritical.
Jay Boo says
Thanks for that link, Champ. The MSM keeps promoting a false image of Hillary as pro-Israel.
Champ says
You’re welcome, Shmooviyet and Jay Boo.
Don McKellar says
What a complete disaster it will be to America and free will people everywhere if Trump doesn’t win and Hillary and her criminal empire does. It’s almost like looking into the next Dark Ages for Western Civilization. It is really that bad.
Charli Main says
If the closet Muslima, Hillary Clinton, wins don’t be surprised to find minarets being added to the White House. Just to make the 2 million Muslims she will be bringing into the USA, every year, feel more at home and welcome.
Pong says
Finally, there is no mention of good moslems. I always thought that Robert’s frequent reference to non jihadi moslems was his weak point. All moslems, without exception, are bad people. All of them are the enemies f humanity. Even those, who don’t take Islam seriously, will change, if the circumstances are changed. Their children will grow up to become active jihadi. Islam must be banned in any civilized country.
Charli Main says
All Muslims are infected with the Islamo- Rabies virus.
Just because the virus is dormant in many Muslims, people assume that they are “moderate” “tolerant” and “peaceful”
The ONLY cure for the Islamo-Rabies virus is apostasy.
Mark A says
A very interesting article.
I fear everything the author describes about living under an Islamic majority is in store for us in our western countries if present trends continue.
gravenimage says
That’s why we have to make a stand now.
Don Davenport says
Sadly it is highly unlikely he will win. After 8 years of the Clintons, American Christians will be the ones in danger.
Shmooviyet says
Indeed sad and frighteningly true.
There are too many who simply don’t care or believe they’ve nothing to lose, standing with that miserable wretch.
Trump made a brief stop in our city today, with a decent turnout, but it seemed hopeless watching him swimming against a sea of HC’s poisonous media, H’wood, academia etc. creatures.
Infidel from Down Under says
If Clinton gets elected and just gives muslins a free reign , the people will likely stand up and do the job of putting them in their rightful place for her !
And I sincerely hope they will, then Australians follow suite
Demsci says
”//Trump has carved a place out for those of us who did not fit anywhere before.”//
Yes, this might be the beginning of a beautiful just development.
Where do the Middle-East Christians, Kuffars to the Muslims fit in?
Maybe in a new “Trumpist” movement!
A movemenf of a part of the people in the West with allies in the Islamic countries! And oh, maybe even with substantial government and parliament backing! And of course media backing enough.
As I see it, the Kuffars should not see themselves as Muslims see them, namely as “lacking the good religion and a varied disorganised lot (with so many useful idiots among them).
No, in the debate about Islam there should not be only ONE Ideology. Islam, discussed, with the only distinction between those who are PRO, those who are Contra and those who are Neutral. This concept leads to endless discussion about the religion at least we abhor. It even allows Muslims to cry being victim of “Ïslamophobia”.
In future there should be a debate about TWO ideologies; Islam and it’s strongest possible competitor, on it’s own level. I hope Trumpism, and Wilders movement, AfD and such, in part are the predecessor of an Umbrella Democratic ideology,
so that TWO ideologies are discussed and compared And the second (Umbrella Democratic ideology) can demand and force reciprocity from the first (Islam).
In that umbrella democratic movement the Middle-East Christians FIT.
In umbrella democratic territory Muslims are different, and a minority.
In Islamic territory adherents of Umbrella Democratic Ideology are different, and a minority.
And if the TWO ideologies confront each other, the treatment of the minorities by the ideology in power must become much more reciprocal; either both minorities are as free or as suffering as each other then.
Angemon says
Linde Barrera says
To Angemon- As per your 9:47 am comment of Nov.7, 2016, as well as many others–THANK YOU for being so on target. I love your comments, Angemon.
Cretius says
Wahhabi clerics [Sunni], funded by the Saudis, have recently invaded Indonesia without invite and the western democracies. Radicalism is the result and is the basis of worldwide Islamic terrorism.
There is nothing like Islamic Law [Sharia] in Western culture. Islamic Law comes from three sources, the Koran, the Sira and Hadith. Islamic Law codifies all the information into a template for Islamic civilization. It guides Muslims on how to lead life. Every aspect of life finds a place in their law code, including how to say hello, how to have sex, disciplining a wife, promoting holy war, punishing a child, going to the toilet, etc. Most importantly, it affects the non-Muslim.
Islam is a totalitarian, supremacist ideology that is anti-democratic. Islam is out to eradicate ALL other cultures and religions.
Simply review the teachings of Islam, the bloody history of 1,400 years of Islamic conquest and bear witness to the statements by Imams and the outrages committed in the name of Islam. It is foolhardy to buy into this leftist lie portraying Islam as “a religion of peace”.
Islam is a political ideology that uses its claim of being a religion to attempt to set up a parallel system of Islamic laws and courts, called Sharia, in every country that it enters. This is the action of a political ideology, not a religion. Islam’s goal is, and always has been, the establishment of Islamic totalitarianism worldwide.
Angemon says
Cretius posted:
“Wahhabi clerics [Sunni], funded by the Saudis”
Ideologically, what’s the difference between Saudi wahabism and Iranian twelvism when it comes to treatment of women, homosexuals and non-muslims?
gravenimage says
It’s all pretty much of a piece. And why not? It all comes from the texts and tenets of Islam, and the model of the vile “Prophet”.
gravenimage says
Good post, Angemon.
vladkoval says
(offtopic, however)
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/nov/05/russia-orders-inquiry-into-claims-of-fgm-in-dagestan
Russia orders inquiry into claims of FGM in Dagestan (Russia)
Human rights groups allege female genital mutilation has been carried out on tens of thousands of girls in North Caucasus
However, it’s a good news. Believe me or not, majority in Russia (and Ukraine too) had no clue what FGM was. Two monthes ago a mufti in Dagestan called for FGM Russia-wide. Surprisingly, but the news was reposted by Russian MSM, normally inclining to ignore such things. I will never forget that day. Because even before that day I tried to talk about it online, and in vain. It is hard to draw attention to something without a scandal. But on that day, Russian Internet was burning – thousands of big and small news-sites reposted the news and it reached millions of readers in Russia, Ukraine and other ex-Sov Reps. And the people (who before that would normally were indifferent to muslims) were just shocked: “is that what muslims do? Sick bastards”.
Angemon says
Yes. Knowledge is the bane of islam. The more people know what islam has in store for them, as non-muslims, the less politicians will pander to muslims to show how “tolerant” and “multicultural” they are and the less people fall for the the sob stories of weaved by islamic supremacist groups masquerading as “civil rights” groups.
gravenimage says
Yes, this savagery spreads along with Islam–the idea, so often bandied about, that FGM is just an African “cultural” thing is false. You find it in Iraq, Iran, Indonesia, and increasingly, in Dar-al-Harb.
God, I hate Islam.
Mazo says
Dagestanis are Shafi’i.
Indonesians are Shafi’i, Iraqi Kurds are Shafi’i, Arabs in Hormuzgan Province of Iran are Shafi’i, Somalis are Shafi’i, Egyptians are Shafi’i.
Female circumcision is required and mandatory in the Shafi’i Madhhab.
However female circumcision is not mandatory for the three other Madhahib- Hanafi, Maliki, Hanbali. Most of the other Madhahib don’t practice female circumcision. Hanafi is the most widespread Madhhab.
Tatar Muslims in Russia are Hanafi and they don’t circumcise females, Iraqi Arabs are Hanafi and they don’t circumcise their females, Arabs in Khuzestan province of Iran are Twelver shia and they don’t circumcise their females.
Iraqi Arab Hanafis don’t do female circumcision while Iraqi Kurdish Shafi’is do female circumcision. Both live in Iraq.
Tatar Muslim Hanafis don’t do female circumcision while Dagestani Shafi’is do female circumcision. Both live in Russia.
Arab Twelver Shia in Khuzestan do not do female circumcision while Arab Shafi’is in Hormuzgan do female circumcision.Both live in Iran.
When the Dagestani Mufti said everyone in Russia should be circumcised, he was also directing it to Tatar Hanafis who don’t practice female circumcision.
Angemon says
The Hanafi school of islamic jurisprudence considers circumcision, both male and female, to be sunnah. That some muslims don’t practice it doesn’t mean it’s discouraged in any way.
In 2011, Khameini, the supreme leader of Iran, issued a fatwa saying that female genital mutilation was allowed, although not obligatory, and that if a man wanted his wives to undergo FGM, and it posed no danger to the health of the woman, they were obliged to go through FGM.
gravenimage says
Actually, all of the schools of Islamic jurisprudence consider FGM acceptable, and most of them praiseworthy. But even if this were practiced just by the adherents of the Shafi’i School, this would still entail the suffering and sometimes death of hundreds of millions of girls living under Islam.
Notice that the vicious Mazo himself does not have a word of criticism for this barbarism. And why would he? The foul “Prophet” of Islam was fine with mutilating women, as well.
Jay Boo says
Democrats complain loudly about states that propose showing a photo ID.
But when they go to the liquor store or buy cigarettes or ‘(medical)’ marijuana they often yank out their photo ID’s so fast they get tennis elbow and whiplash injuries.
Crusades Were Right! says
Amen!
Eric Jones says
I do not doubt for one minute that ME Christians suffer as described by Najwa’s article.
I myself have pointed out the silence of the American church regarding the genocide against Christians in the ME. What I do object to is Najwa’s attempt to discredit the just concerns of the African American community as some thing that we African Americans concoct; as compared to the real concerns of ME Christians. I know of no Black Christians that make light of the suffering of Christians in the ME.
I am sure that Najwa does not know that the African American community suffers 50% unemployment due to outsourcing and work visas. Some of us get shot driving while Black. You may think the numbers are small but its not small when its your relative.
Just as Najwa found the nerve to attack the African American community in his other – wise fine article, I hope he can find the nerve to attack the ruling 100th of the American population that has ignored th plight of ME Christians.
Eric