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Life in the Islamic State: “If you don’t convert to Islam we will kill your son”

Nov 27, 2016 9:27 am By Robert Spencer

“There is no compulsion in religion” (Qur’an 2:256) but in practice, all too often Islamic supremacists find room in that phrase for all manner of coercion. What constitutes “compulsion” is in the eye of the beholder. After all, the institutionalized subjugation of the dhimma, with its regular humiliation and harassment, from which one can be freed for the simple price of converting to Islam, is not considered compulsion. Remember Steve Centanni and Olaf Wiig, the journalists who were kidnapped and forced to convert to Islam — even though their conversions were obviously coerced, their captors made them say that they were converting freely, and the captors probably believed that themselves. After all, the journos could have chosen to be killed instead.

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“If You Don’t Convert We Will Shoot Your Son: ISIS’ Ultimatum To Iraqi Christian Mother,” by Mark Woods, Christian Today, November 25, 2016:

A young Iraqi Christian in the village of Qaraqosh, near Mosul, has told of being forced at gunpoint to convert to Islam under Islamic State.

Also interviewed is a woman who speaks of her despair at the destruction of churches in the town.

Qaraqosh was taken over in 2014, when Ismail was only 14 years old. Now 16, he told the BBC how he and his mother were forced to become Muslims.

“They told me to say ‘there’s no God but Allah’ and you’ll become a Muslim. I said, ‘There’s no God but Jesus’ so he slapped me. I was still young,” Ismail said.

“He slapped me and pointed the gun at my head. He told my mum, ‘If you don’t convert to Islam we will kill your son.'”

“A car stopped and six blindfolded people dressed in red got out. They had them on their knees and then IS children arrived. Each child stood behind one of the men in red. Someone who seemed to be their leader started reading from some papers. When he finished reading, the children shot the men dead.”…

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  1. Angemon says

    Nov 27, 2016 at 9:42 am

    Poor kid… 🙁

  2. john spielman says

    Nov 27, 2016 at 10:22 am

    “there is NO compulsion in religion”- THEY (muslims) LIE, because muhammed, their “prefect man” WAS A LIAR… and a mass murderer thief rapist and pedophile false prophet!

  3. J-pal says

    Nov 27, 2016 at 10:52 am

    We have to be grateful for this clear statement from IS. It shows that they are ungodly, blasphemous and arrogant – VERY SIMPLE to understand. They proclaim “the exact opposite of religion” – because they have read the erroneous quran. They have listen to the irreversible errors of islam, sharia and the mullah… in one word – LIES. Islam has NEVER BEEN the truth.

    • Chintamani Patwardhan says

      Nov 27, 2016 at 12:03 pm

      NO, MY FRIEND. THE AYATS IN KORAN ARE NOT ARRANGED CHRONOLOGICALLY AS PER TIMING OF THEIR REVELATION. AND THAT MAKES THE READERS EMBARASED .THE AYATS IF ARRANGED CHRONOLOGICALLY THEN YOU CAN FIND THE TRUTH ABOUTVIOLENT ISLAM.IN MAKKA PERIOD WHEN ISLAM WAS WEAK GENTLE AYATS REVEALED AND AFTER VICTORY OF MADINA VIOLENT AND AGGRESSIVE AYATS ARE REVEALED. THE PRESENT KORAN IS TRAP TO MISGUIDE OTHERS AND PREACH THAT ISLAM IS RELIGION OF PEACE. BUT THE SOUL OF ISLAM IS INBUILT VIOLENCE WITH NONMUSLIMS. PEACE IN ISLAM IS A MIRAGE AFTER WHICH ALL FOOLS OF EUROPE AND WESTERN WORLD IS RUNNING AND AT THE END ALL HEAVENS IN EUROPE SHALL BE CONVERTED IN GRAVE YARD IF PROPER STEPS ARE NOT TAKEN TO ERADICATE ISLAM FROM EUROPE AND KEPT CONFINED WITHIN SAUDIARABIA.

      • Islam the religion of killers says

        Nov 27, 2016 at 6:21 pm

        Its quite simple really, Mohamid was a spoilt brat that was pissed he didn’t get his own way.

        He tried the peaceful gentle style attempting to become a hero and getting people to support him.. and of course that plan it didn’t work at the speed he wanted.

        So he tried the violent approach, as soon as he had the converted manpower off he went, raiding the caravans and taking the booty …

        Ahhh … finally mohamid has a domineering pleasure filled life with the boys all paid by shareing the booty and doing the killing …

        All he had left to do was write the book to prove he was their profit …

        • Carolyne says

          Nov 28, 2016 at 11:41 am

          ……And raping little girls.

  4. Barry Donnelly says

    Nov 27, 2016 at 11:22 am

    We’ve heard testimonies from the citizens of Mosul of the horrors of living under an Islamic State and now this past week with the passing of Castro ; the Rejoicing of Cubans, and their testimony of Years of oppression at the hands of a Communist Dictator . Many leftist in the west STILL DON’t GET IT ! And until it comes time for their own execution ( at the hands of a dictator !) They will probably Never GET IT !!!

  5. Voytek Gagalka says

    Nov 27, 2016 at 11:40 am

    The fate which awaits the west if they will not awake in time! Islam is a terminal cancer.

  6. vladkoval says

    Nov 27, 2016 at 11:49 am

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJMay9FeGAE
    Nice Russian song: (made as response to ISIS threats to Russia)
    Soon, very soon,
    There will be sea of blood,
    Soon, very soon,
    You, the bunch of mad dogs,
    Will pray to your demon,
    While sitting in the dark cellars
    Behind iron bars
    Soon, very soon,
    We will calm you down,
    With one hit…

    • Afrostreewise says

      Nov 27, 2016 at 3:17 pm

      In the context provided by ISIS, it sure sounds nice makes one wish to see a live concert.

  7. Gary says

    Nov 27, 2016 at 12:09 pm

    “Psalm 85:6: “Will You not revive us again, that Your people may rejoice in You?”

    Bottom line…..

    You’ll know them by their fruit: Hate, Intimidation, Murder. Death of the soul.

    Muslims serve the god of death. Satan. Where there is nothing BUT compulsion!

  8. Paula says

    Nov 27, 2016 at 1:31 pm

    Makes me realize that some stories are both archetypal and ongoing… like the story of Hannah and her 7 sons. Hannah also faced this awful trial. She watched as all of her sons were brought before Antiochus-Epiphanies and murdered in the most horrific way possible. Meanwhile, she was told, “All you have to do is to sacrifice to this idol and we will spare the rest of your children.” She refused. Her sons refused. All of them died. But we have their legacy to look back to, along with the knowledge that there are reasons to die as martyrs (real martyrs – not the perverted twisted demonic “martyrs” of Islamic hate) when called to do so.

    • Carolyne says

      Nov 28, 2016 at 11:47 am

      I do not find that the least bit comforting or even rational. What mother would not die to save her children?
      By what right did she throw away the lives of her sons? Barbaric. In todays world, she would be judged insane and confined, if not prosecuted for murder. In fact, anyone who would do that is insane. Once in a while we hear of a woman who killed her children because “Voices” told her to do it. Who are we to say there were no voices if we accept this story as right and just?

  9. Jack Diamond says

    Nov 27, 2016 at 1:42 pm

    Allah is Humpty Dumpty and “When I use a word, it means just what I choose it to mean.”

    Aside from the small detail that the “compulsion” verse is abrogated anyway, it’s “context” was converting Muslims away from Islam and it has never affected the lived reality that Islam is nothing but compulsion. Forced conversions (modeled on the conduct of Muhammad and his Companions) is a normal and perfectly acceptable occurrence for Muslims to impose on non-Muslims (ask all the kidnapped Christian “brides” in Egypt or Pakistan). Islam is clear that compulsion only refers to true belief, to forcing belief in the heart, which has nothing to do with forcing the outward performance of professing the faith with the lips (not in the heart). The subtlety of this might be lost on infidels but makes perfect sense in, for example, the wonderland of the Islamic State. Compulsion is imposing true belief. Imposing the shahada, imposing slavery, imposing dhimmitude and the ransom tax for not converting, imposing the threat of a death penalty for apostasy and for blasphemy, imposing the “choice” of convert or die for “pagans” or even idolatrous Christians…none of that is compulsion in religion for Muslims.

    Muhammad and his cult followers are commanded to fight and slaughter the disbelievers unless they convert or submit under compulsion to the authority of Islam. Allah’s contradictory verses restricting compulsion seem to have more to do with his need for populating Hell, and feasting on suffering, than needing everyone to believe in their hearts.

    “And if thy Lord willed, all who are in the earth would have believed together. Wouldst thou (Muhammad) compel men until they are believers? It is not for any soul to believe save by the permission of Allah. He hath set uncleanness upon those who have no sense.” S. 10:99-100

    “Allah sendeth whom He will astray, and guideth whom He will. He is the Mighty, the Wise.” S. 14:4

    “Whomsoever Allah guides, he is the guided one, and whomsoever He sends astray, those! They are the losers. And surely, We have created many of the jinns and mankind for Hell.” S. 7:178-179

    • Afrostreewise says

      Nov 27, 2016 at 3:10 pm

      I just can’t even begin to understand which is more evil but forcing children’s metamorphism to little demons is perhaps the worst of all. I am note sure I would be able to forgive such people under any earthly circumstances.

      • Jack Diamond says

        Nov 27, 2016 at 4:21 pm

        Rights of children?

        “That is what Ibn al-Qasim reported from Malik. Ashhab said that children are considered to have the din of those who captured them. If they refuse that, they are compelled to become Muslim. Children have no din and that is why they are compelled to enter Islam so that they do not go to a false din.” {Tafsir Al-Qurtubi – Classical Commentary of the Holy Qur’an}

        Children have no religion except of those who capture them, so they can be compelled to enter Islam.

        http://www.answering-islam.org/Quran/Contra/compulsion.html

  10. Ross Lloyd says

    Nov 27, 2016 at 3:43 pm

    Vlad the Impaler had the only proper way to treat Islamists! Time to re-institute it for all members of ISIS, Boko Haram etc who are taken alive…

    • Carolyne says

      Nov 28, 2016 at 11:50 am

      Is Vlad’s castle available?

  11. ibrahim itace muhammed says

    Nov 27, 2016 at 4:55 pm

    alas,ignorant mithraist filthy christians.they don’t know the quran,yet they make meaningless comments on it.quran is not like your evil bible with more than 50000 errors and contradiction .you are like evil brothers isis group who never care to learn what competent islamic scholars taught,but rely on trial and error.the verse “no compulsion in religion” has not been abrogated(mansukh)by any verse.it still stands that it is not allowed under sharia to compel non-muslim to convert to islam.conversion shall be voluntary without any form of threat or intimidation.jihad in the form of military confrontation is not meant to coerce non-muslims to convert to islam.note jihad in the form of military confrontation can only be resorted to for self-defence or for the defence of the oppressed,whether muslim or non-muslims.one funny view by ignorant christians and others mischiefmakers is thatwhen allah is describing the scenario at the battlefield during military confrontation like “faqtuluhum(kill them)”they interprete it to mean muslims are commanded to kill all unbelievers. no ,allah did not say so.other verses expatiate the meaning like the verse which says allah does not authorise you to fight those who do not fight you or prevent you from practicing your religion.another verse says allah does no prohibit you from having peace treaty with non-believers.so,it is not a matter of meccan surahs of peace when muslims were weak and violent surahs when muslims were strong and established.that is an assumption by ignorant mischiefmakers.one shall learn arabic language and literature very well to understand such descriptive styles used by the quran.see hamidullah islamic law of war and peace. thus it is left to ignorant filthy christians to learn the truth or rely on what their evil brothers isis have been doing to continue spreading falsehood against islam.god is watching

    • Jack Diamond says

      Nov 27, 2016 at 5:19 pm

      Don’t bother. I know it’s tough that we’re on to what filthy liars you are. We have 1400 years of examples.

    • Angemon says

      Nov 27, 2016 at 5:20 pm

      ibrahim itace muhammed posted:

      “alas,ignorant mithraist filthy christians.they don’t know the quran,yet they make meaningless comments on it.”

      Huh, you realize this article is about Christians recounting how it was living under ISIS, right? Why are you going after Christians instead of chastising your coreligionists, or at least distance yourself from them?

      “quran is not like your evil bible with more than 50000 errors and contradiction .”

      Citation needed.

      “you are like evil brothers isis group who never care to learn what competent islamic scholars taught,but rely on trial and error.”

      Al-Baghdadi has a degree on islamic studies. Several imams throughout the world stated that ISIS is acting in accordance to islam. In face of that, am I suppose to believe your baseless and unsubstantiated assertion that all those islamic scholars got islam wrong?

      “the verse “no compulsion in religion” has not been abrogated(mansukh)by any verse.”

      Ah, so your problem is with non-muslims saying that that specific verse was abrogated. Not with ISIS saying so, just with non-muslims pointing out how islamic ISIS is. Got it.

      “it still stands that it is not allowed under sharia to compel non-muslim to convert to islam.conversion shall be voluntary without any form of threat or intimidation.”

      What would you call the discriminatory burdens and measures non-muslims in muslims lands are subjected to by sharia law?

      “jihad in the form of military confrontation is not meant to coerce non-muslims to convert to islam.”

      Yes, it is. Fight the non-believers until they convert or pay the jizyia.

      “note jihad in the form of military confrontation can only be resorted to for self-defence or for the defence of the oppressed,whether muslim or non-muslims.one”

      This is a demonstrable lie. Here are the verses from quran 9:28-31:

      28 – O you who have believed, indeed the polytheists are unclean, so let them not approach al-Masjid al-Haram after this, their [final] year. And if you fear privation, Allah will enrich you from His bounty if He wills. Indeed, Allah is Knowing and Wise.

      29 – Fight those who do not believe in Allah or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth from those who were given the Scripture – [fight] until they give the jizyah willingly while they are humbled.

      30 – The Jews say, “Ezra is the son of Allah “; and the Christians say, “The Messiah is the son of Allah .” That is their statement from their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved [before them]. May Allah destroy them; how are they deluded?

      31 – They have taken their scholars and monks as lords besides Allah , and [also] the Messiah, the son of Mary. And they were not commanded except to worship one God; there is no deity except Him. Exalted is He above whatever they associate with Him.

      9:28 orders muslims not to let polytheists near the mosque in Mecca. That was a major blow to the income of the Meccans, since religious pilgrimages were the backbone of Meccan economy. 9:28 addresses this issue, saying that if they fear “privation” then allah will provide them. How? Enter 9:29 – fight the Jews and Christians until they convert (in which case they’d have to pay zakat), pay the jizyia (a poll-tax only non-muslims were required to pay) or they were defeated, in which case muslims could enslave them and take their possessions as war booty. Now, this was problematic, since muhammad previously referred to Jews and Christians in a positive light, both groups having received written scriptures from God. How was attacking them justified? Enter 9:30-31, which accuses Jews and Christians of being polytheists.

      Does that look like self-defence? Or rapine, imperialistic and unwarranted aggression?

      “funny view by ignorant christians and others mischiefmakers is thatwhen allah is describing the scenario at the battlefield during military confrontation like “faqtuluhum(kill them)”they interprete it to mean muslims are commanded to kill all unbelievers.”

      No one here is saying that. No one here is saying that muslims are to kill all unbelievers – after all, slaves are considered part of the war booty.

      “no ,allah did not say so.other verses expatiate the meaning like the verse which says allah does not authorise you to fight those who do not fight you or prevent you from practicing your religion.”

      Citation needed.

      “another verse says allah does no prohibit you from having peace treaty with non-believers.”

      And another says that such peace treaties, which, BTW, are always temporary and meant as a safeguard against a powerful enemy, giving the muslims time to regroup and reinforce before attacking, can be rendered null and void.

      “so,it is not a matter of meccan surahs of peace when muslims were weak and violent surahs when muslims were strong and established.”

      Yes, it is.

      “that is an assumption by ignorant mischiefmakers.”

      Good description of your average imam.

      “one shall learn arabic language and literature very well to understand such descriptive styles used by the quran.”

      Mate, the quran is translated into many different languages. Plus, the quran says it’s simple to understand. Why is it that the so-called “last revelation for all mankind” requires one to learn a dead language? Exactly how many people worldwide can read and speak the 8th century arabic the quran is written on? Are you one of those people? If not, who are you to lecture us on that?

      “see hamidullah islamic law of war and peace.”

      Is it in Arabic? How about I just rad the quran and commentaries on it?

      “thus it is left to ignorant filthy christians to learn the truth or rely on what their evil brothers isis have been doing to continue spreading falsehood against islam.god is watching”

      You sound like the kind of people who wipes with their bare hands. Why are you calling someone else “filthy”?

    • Carolyne says

      Nov 28, 2016 at 11:58 am

      It’s kind of funny that his idiot calls non-Muslims “Filthy” yet every picture I see of a Muslim looks as if he needs a good bath. But of course when one wipes one’s rear with one’s left hand, filth is bound to stick to them. Did Mohammed tell them to then lick their left hand clean? And then there’s the having sex with a goat bit. Be sure you sell it to another village as Allah tells you to do. Allah can get testy at times.

      These perverts can’t even get a woman unless they buy or enslave one. They have very small—well, you know.

      Ibrahim can go “Mansukh” eggs, although that is not what I really wanted to say.

    • Pete says

      Nov 29, 2016 at 12:21 pm

      Sigh…….they keep on popping up trying to to give us their interpretation of islam.
      I see you do not agree with what your filthy prophet said and his quran.

  12. Dennis says

    Nov 28, 2016 at 7:18 am

    You might want to check out the websites of Arab Jews and how they were miserably treated as dhimmis!

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