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Minnesota: Muslima “dispels myths” about treatment of women in Islam

Nov 27, 2016 2:37 pm By Robert Spencer

A few things left out of this whitewashed presentation, which is typical of such presentations all over the country:

“Men have authority over women because Allah has made the one superior to the other, and because they spend their wealth to maintain them. Good women are obedient. They guard their unseen parts because Allah has guarded them. As for those from whom you fear disobedience, admonish them and send them to beds apart and beat them.” — Qur’an 4:34

Nowhere does the Qur’an teach that a woman can beat a man under any circumstances.

The Qur’an likens a woman to a field (tilth), to be used by a man as he wills: “Your women are a tilth for you, so go to your tilth as you will” (2:223).

It declares that a woman’s testimony is worth half that of a man: “Get two witnesses, out of your own men, and if there are not two men, then a man and two women, such as you choose, for witnesses, so that if one of them errs, the other can remind her” (2:282).

It allows men to marry up to four wives, and have sex with slave girls also: “If you fear that you shall not be able to deal justly with the orphans, marry women of your choice, two or three or four; but if you fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly, then only one, or one that your right hands possess, that will be more suitable, to prevent you from doing injustice” (4:3).

It rules that a son’s inheritance should be twice the size of that of a daughter: “Allah directs you as regards your children’s inheritance: to the male, a portion equal to that of two females” (4:11).

It allows for marriage to pre-pubescent girls, stipulating that Islamic divorce procedures “shall apply to those who have not yet menstruated” (65:4).

Islamic law stipulates that a man’s prayer is annulled if a dog or a woman passes in front of him as he is praying. “Narrated ‘Aisha: The things which annul the prayers were mentioned before me. They said, “Prayer is annulled by a dog, a donkey and a woman (if they pass in front of the praying people).” I said, ‘You have made us (i.e. women) dogs.’ I saw the Prophet praying while I used to lie in my bed between him and the Qibla. Whenever I was in need of something, I would slip away. for I disliked to face him.” (Sahih Bukhari 1.9.490)

Another hadith depicts Muhammad saying that the majority of the inhabitants of hell are women:

“I looked into Paradise and I saw that the majority of its people were the poor. And I looked into Hell and I saw that the majority of its people are women.” Sahih Bukhari 3241; Sahih Muslim 2737)

When asked about this, he explained:

“I was shown Hell and I have never seen anything more terrifying than it. And I saw that the majority of its people are women.” They said, “Why, O Messenger of Allah?” He said, “Because of their ingratitude (kufr).” It was said, “Are they ungrateful to Allah?” He said, “They are ungrateful to their companions (husbands) and ungrateful for good treatment. If you are kind to one of them for a lifetime then she sees one (undesirable) thing in you, she will say, ‘I have never had anything good from you.’” (Sahih Bukhari 1052)

And in another hadith:

The Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) went out to the musalla (prayer place) on the day of Eid al-Adha or Eid al-Fitr. He passed by the women and said, ‘O women! Give charity, for I have seen that you form the majority of the people of Hell.’ They asked, ‘Why is that, O Messenger of Allah?’ He replied, ‘You curse frequently and are ungrateful to your husbands. I have not seen anyone more deficient in intelligence and religious commitment than you. A cautious sensible man could be led astray by some of you.’ The women asked, ‘O Messenger of Allah, what is deficient in our intelligence and religious commitment?’ He said, ‘Is not the testimony of two women equal to the testimony of one man?’ They said, ‘Yes.’ He said, ‘This is the deficiency in her intelligence. Is it not true that a woman can neither pray nor fast during her menses?’ The women said, ‘Yes.’ He said, ‘This is the deficiency in her religious commitment.’” (Sahih Bukhari 304)

hanadi-chehabbedine

“Muslim speaker demystifies the role of women in Islam,” Forest Lake Area Lowdown, November 26, 2016:

STILLWATER — In light of the racial, religious and political tension that has taken the country by storm in the last few months, many Stillwater locals were ready to come together at the Stillwater Public Library last week to learn about one of the most touchy national topics — Islam, and the role women play within its religious doctrine.

The presentation, titled “Getting to Know the Role of Muslim Women Better,” was hosted by the St. Croix chapter of the American Association of University Women or AAUW (whose mission is to create equity for women and girls through advocacy, education, philanthropy and research) in partnership with the Stillwater Public Library. The event attracted a sizable audience, whose members were eager to learn about Islam and asked many questions throughout the evening presentation.

The guest speaker was Hanadi Chehabbedine from the Islamic Resource Group in Minneapolis. Originally from Lebanon, Chehabbedine is now an American citizen and resident of Eden Prairie, where she has been involved in local activism, reaching out to educate others about Islam.

The number one thing to understand, Chehabbedine said, is that religion and culture are two very different things. Not every culture that identifies as Islamic follows the Qur’an or the Hadith (the sayings of the Prophet) in quite the same way. As a Lebanese Muslim, Chehabbedine grew up with many more rights than her sisters in Saudi Arabia, where even non-Muslim women are forced to wear a veil or scarf, or Afghanistan, where many female children are denied education.

During her presentation at the Stillwater library, she dispelled many of the myths that Americans have about Islam, and especially the myth that Islamic women live in oppression. She shared passages from the Qur’an that highlight the role of women. Many people don’t realize, she said, that Muslim women keep their maiden names when they are married, and that education is a basic right for all children, male and female. Islam recognizes the right of women to own property (in fact, the first wife of the Prophet Muhammad was a businesswoman, and he was one of her employees). But Muslim women don’t have to work if they don’t want to — they are automatically assured financial security throughout their life.

“I’m 40 years old, and I never paid a bill,” Chehabbedine said. “How does that work? Basically, the inheritance law that governs the system of Islam allows financial security throughout the life of a woman, specifically by giving the man double the amount of money by inheritance.”

Male children inherit twice as much money from their parents, but all expenses for females are covered by the closest males in their lives. However, any money that she makes on her own belongs completely to her, and she is able to spend it as she wishes.

“If a woman wants to be responsible for her own expenses she can; it’s not like she can’t,” Chehabbedine said. “But if she doesn’t want to, she really doesn’t have to.”

Marriages are based on mutual love and understanding. Many Americans believe that Islam promotes polygamy, which is allowed by Islam, but Chehabbedine said that Islam’s teachings on marriage serve to limit a man to four wives, rather than the limitless amount he could theoretically have outside of sharia. (The oft-repeated phrase “sharia law,” Chehabbedine explained, is redundant, as “sharia” is a rough Arabic translation for “law.”)

Monogamy is the norm;Chehabbedine couldn’t think of anyone she knew of who was in a polygamous marriage, though she explained it sometimes happens when a couple is unable to conceive a child. The wife always has input in this decision. However, polyandry — a woman being married to multiple men — is prohibited, mostly because of lineage and inheritance rights.

The western world sometimes hears of forced marriages in Islam, but Chehabbedine said that consent is a requirement of marriage in Islam, and forced marriage is not an Islamic practice, but a cultural one.

Islam is especially reverent of mothers — in one story about the Prophet, a follower asks who among the people is most worthy of his companionship. When the Prophet says, “Your mother,” the man asks who is next. The Prophet repeats that his mother is most worthy two more times before finally saying “Your father.” Islam reveres many female figures, including Mary, mother of Jesus; Asiya, the wife of Pharaoh who rescued baby Moses; Khadijah, the first wife of the Prophet; and Fatima, the daughter of the Prophet.

One of the foremost topics of the presentation was the headwear worn by many Muslim women: the headscarf or hijab. This symbolic garment is not required for Muslim women, but many choose to wear it as a sign of their modesty and faith.

“It’s a choice, and it’s not something that can be forced,” Chehabbedine said. “The main concept behind it is kind of moving away from the sexuality of a woman, and bringing about her femininity so that when she is talking, you’re actually listening. Basically, eliminating the bodily distraction.” …

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Filed Under: Sharia, Taqiyya, War is deceit, women's rights in Islam Tagged With: American Association of University Women, Hanadi Chehabbedine, Islamic Resource Group, Minneapolis, Stillwater Public Library


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  1. nanina says

    Nov 27, 2016 at 2:43 pm

    If oppression of women in Islam is a myth, why do they need to constantly bring it up? You’d think people would realize by now that they’re wrong in thinking Muslim women are oppressed?

    • somehistory says

      Nov 27, 2016 at 4:40 pm

      Was it Shakespeare who addressed that issue when he wrote something about “thou doth protest too much”?

    • laura ann says

      Nov 27, 2016 at 7:06 pm

      We know that Muslim women are treated like chattel, suppressed in most everything, forced to wear long cloaks and cover their heads, some like in S. Arabia leaving just their eyes exposed. Many forced into marriage, not allowed to date and choose who to marry. Parents strict control over girls even adult women. In reality, Muslim women are slaves.

    • Sabri S. says

      Nov 28, 2016 at 1:51 am

      It is a myth…if all women in America were Muslim, the US would be 10 times better
      Than it is now…in every human development index too…more morality, better family
      Structure, quality men who actually run their families properly, no crime, no racism, etc…
      The benedits of Islam 4 America are endless!!! Smart women already see this fact..

      • The Ginger says

        Nov 28, 2016 at 3:50 am

        I live in a Muslim country. There is lots of crime and lots of racism. Smart women are pushing for a reduction of Islam as it causing social, political, and economic deterioration.

      • Dan says

        Nov 28, 2016 at 7:32 am

        I spent nearly two years in Muslim countries, primarily the Maldives, Oman, Egypt, and Turkey, and Islam has every single solitary crime the rest of the world has, AND WORSE.

        Take your load of taqiyya and cram it.

      • eur says

        Nov 28, 2016 at 10:20 am

        “more morality” … what kind of morality ? here in the north of Spain we used to live secure , There were no sexual violations, they were very rare cases. The girls could go out at night and go from end to end of the city. With the arrival of thousands of magrebies muslims .. that is no longer possible. 90% of the violations are reported by the Magrebies, most of whom are not criminals … they do not work, they live off social aid. What kind of morals are you talking about? We have been working hard for thousands of years now and only now with the arrival of Muslims are we seeing these barbarities. We are giving you social houses, financial aid, free health, education, special school menus, scholarships of all kinds … and the Moroccans are still the same. No other people that have come has given so many problems and above you think morally superior when you do not even work? Lazy !! Polygamous !! Rapists !!! thieves !!

        • Kay says

          Nov 28, 2016 at 10:27 am

          Good point. & so sad & scary for us.

        • Dacritic says

          Nov 28, 2016 at 7:18 pm

          We should realise by now that Muslims have different definitions for some of the words we use, such as “peace” and of course, “morality”. What we see as moral, they see as immoral and otherwise.

          On another note, the fact that Robert has posted all the relevant references in the Quran and the Hadith about how Islam is sexist to the core seems to be lost of these defenders of Islam. But he’s right in calling it a “myth”. The whole fucking Quran is a myth anyway.

        • Pete says

          Nov 29, 2016 at 8:33 am

          Parasites.

      • Angemon says

        Nov 28, 2016 at 10:41 am

        Sabri S. posted:

        “if all women in America were Muslim, the US would be 10 times better
        Than it is now…in every human development index too…
        ”

        Luckily for you, there’s a way for you to prove your case. All you have to do is point out to a muslim country that is superior to the US in every human development index:

        http://hdr.undp.org/en/content/human-development-index-hdi

        So, Sabri, which muslim countries are 10 times better than the US in every human development index?

        • Cecilia Ellis says

          Nov 28, 2016 at 12:46 pm

          Angemon posted: “Luckily for you, there’s a way for you to prove your case. All you have to do is point out to a muslim country that is superior to the US in every human development index:

          http://hdr.undp.org/en/content/human-development-index-hdi

          Ange, brilliant and priceless!

          XD

      • BC says

        Nov 28, 2016 at 3:26 pm

        Take a look at Pakistan a country created artificially for the express purpose of giving a country for Muslims. (and also Bangladesh) So according to your claims it should be a paradise Every one of your claims is refuted there.

    • eur says

      Nov 28, 2016 at 4:08 am

      There is a saying in Spanish that says “dime de qué presumes y te diré de qué careces” ==> “tell me what you presume and I will tell you what you lack” (Sorry for the translation). We also have a lot of colloquial expressions about the Moors, an inheritance of the Islamic presence in the peninsula … most of them warn about Moors, mistreat women … we assume that our culture has been machist, we still have a lot to improve .. but Islam is frozen in time. And they want us all to be like them. I see it day by day with the Moroccans who have come to my city, women are completely annulled as independent people, are completely dependent on the male. They are immature people, they go from depending on the parents to depend on the husband, they are a property. This woman will say what she wants but the reality is the one that is seen daily in the streets. The only Muslim women who go out on TV do so to speak of Islam, its goodness. They do nothing else, just proselytizing. They are a sect.

  2. Stephanie says

    Nov 27, 2016 at 2:48 pm

    misogynist & cruel punisher http://quran.com/4/34 quran.com/24/2 quran.com/10/4 quran.com/4/56-57

    https://twitter.com/schnellmann_org/status/802612396359487489

  3. Stephanie says

    Nov 27, 2016 at 2:52 pm

    … She shared passages from the Qur’an that highlight the role of women.”

    http://quran.com/4/34 ‘Men are in charge of women …’

  4. JawsV says

    Nov 27, 2016 at 2:54 pm

    The hijab is 100% “bodily distraction.”

    • PRCS says

      Nov 27, 2016 at 5:23 pm

      Almost like standing there–topless.

      It DRAWS attention.

      • JawsV says

        Nov 27, 2016 at 6:09 pm

        It’s all you see. I can’t take seriously anyone wearing that contraption.

      • linnte says

        Nov 27, 2016 at 7:22 pm

        Agreed! And it is deliberately so. So Muslim men won’t rape their own women.

        • JawsV says

          Nov 27, 2016 at 9:41 pm

          But they do anyway.

        • linnte says

          Nov 28, 2016 at 2:46 am

          Yes they do rape their own women. Islam is a sick, disgusting ideology and most of its followers must be mentally ill to follow it.

    • Margaret says

      Nov 30, 2016 at 6:19 am

      The hijab is 100% (to use the current favourite phrase of the library’s) body shaming. Except of course in their world, Islam and its excesses are exempted from all criticism.

  5. jewdog says

    Nov 27, 2016 at 3:02 pm

    Hmm…Four male witnesses to prove rape, otherwise the victim is guilty of adultery. How progressive!

    • Stephanie says

      Nov 27, 2016 at 3:13 pm

      impoSSible!

      https://quran.com/24/4 https://quran.com/24/13

    • David M says

      Nov 27, 2016 at 7:07 pm

      And being inforced in Islamic countries like Dubai as we speak.

  6. Shmooviyet says

    Nov 27, 2016 at 3:49 pm

    “I’m forty years old and I never paid a bill.”

    Now THERE’S something to boast about.
    Slaves can make the same claim.

    • JawsV says

      Nov 27, 2016 at 6:10 pm

      Yeah, that’s pitiful. How oppressed. Shows she has no financial control, nothing to brag about.

      • eur says

        Nov 28, 2016 at 2:39 am

        Patriarchal society, and that woman is a clear example of total and absolute domination. It reminds me of Samuel L. Jackson in the movie Django. This woman has done a good job, her master will strike her less tonight.

  7. Michael Copeland says

    Nov 27, 2016 at 4:07 pm

    The hijab: “It’s a choice, and it’s not something that can be forced,”
    Aqsa Parvez was strangled with the hijab she did NOT WANT to wear.
    The happened in Canada.
    Did anyone present remember ?

    • PRCS says

      Nov 27, 2016 at 5:19 pm

      Apparently not.

      • JawsV says

        Nov 27, 2016 at 6:14 pm

        It’s hard to believe we’ve so debased ourselves after 9/11 we’re (meaning the United States) actually discussing hijabs. I can’t recall this ever happening prior to 9/11.

        • PRCS says

          Nov 27, 2016 at 6:28 pm

          What should be talked about is that–per that speaker–hijab is optional, and that Muslims who say it is mandatory need to PROVE that.

        • Anne Smith says

          Nov 28, 2016 at 4:52 am

          It is almost unbelievable that the memory of 9/11 and who committed it seems to have been wiped so comprehensively from the American national mind.

          No-one mentions it, draws attention to it. Almost as if they are assuming they themselves were guilty, rather than the evil wicked Satan followers who committed those disgusting acts.

          Why on earth did the US admit so many Muslims into their country AFTER 9/11?? Surely deportation should have been the order of the day?

  8. somehistory says

    Nov 27, 2016 at 4:24 pm

    So the next time a normal human sees a moslim, bent over for satan, a woman walking a dog can pass by in front of his dirty carpet and it will annul all of his preying on normal people to his fake god and evil idol, satan represented by islam.

    And notice this woman’s eyes: dead as a doornail, just like those of the males who bow to satan.

  9. abad says

    Nov 27, 2016 at 4:29 pm

    ““I’m 40 years old, and I never paid a bill,” Chehabbedine said. “How does that work? Basically, the inheritance law that governs the system of Islam allows financial security throughout the life of a woman, specifically by giving the man double the amount of money by inheritance.””

    “If a woman wants to be responsible for her own expenses she can; it’s not like she can’t,” Chehabbedine said. “But if she doesn’t want to, she really doesn’t have to.”

    In short, Muslims females are STILL commanded by the Quran and Hadith to be dependent upon Muslim males. And God forbid Muslim women deal with existential anxiety. Cannot have Muslim women taking control of their own lives doncha know since the Quran and Hadith strictly FORBIDS its followers from doing so.

    Checkmate, Chehabbedine, you lose.

  10. somehistory says

    Nov 27, 2016 at 4:33 pm

    And that thing about women keeping their names….that benefits the filthy as he can divorce her and marry another and doesn’t have to worry about alimony. After-all, how can she even prove she was married so as to be continually supported?
    And any woman who is not allowed to drive or go out without a male relative, is not going to find employment very easy to come by, so where will she get any extra dough to spend as she wishes/

    All a bunch of lies, tied up in her scarf as opposed to a nice bow.

  11. davej says

    Nov 27, 2016 at 4:40 pm

    Stockholm syndrome. Muslimas are programmed to not see their devaluation by men and just be OK with it. Under Islam women are primarily property, or, if enslaved, “booty”.

    So 4 wives is not polygamy, really?

    BTW, is that a hijab or a bandage?

  12. Jack says

    Nov 27, 2016 at 4:42 pm

    This is another form of Jihad and it’s rampant today in America. Here are some examples of how Muslims can deal with non-Muslims and it’s not a sin according their sick and dangerous Fascist Ideology. 1. Darura: Deceit through necessity. 2. Kitman: Deceit by omission. 3. Muruna: Deceit by temporary suspension of Sharia Law. 4. Tawriya: Deceit by ambiguity. 5. Taqiyya. Deceit for the purpose of spreading Islam. 6. Taysin: Deceit through facilitation. So who with a sane mind would believe anything these Vermin from hell would tell him or her.

  13. Angemon says

    Nov 27, 2016 at 4:46 pm

    Whenever I go to watch a presentation about islam by a muslim, I make sure to take breath-mints and a packet or twenty of ketchup and mustard because I know I’m going to be fed a lot of bulls***. That this bulls*** had the support of an organization whose goal is to create equity for women and girls makes the whole thing even more appalling.

    • Real McCoy says

      Nov 29, 2016 at 3:50 am

      Well said Angemon,you make me laugh.

  14. PRCS says

    Nov 27, 2016 at 4:51 pm

    Unless the author elected to not cite them, I did not note a single specific hadith or Qur’an passage citation by the speaker to support her ‘Islam is so wonderful’ fantasy.

    But, I DID note something that SHOULD be used the next time, and every time an employer has to defend–particularly in court–against the bogus claim that Muslim women MUST wear hijab at work.

    “This symbolic garment is not required for Muslim women, but many choose to wear it as a sign of their modesty and faith.”

    “It’s a choice, and it’s not something that can be forced,” Chehabbedine said.

    Got it, CAIR “reps”?

    She’s a Muslim and she clearly believes it’s not required.

    • somehistory says

      Nov 27, 2016 at 9:19 pm

      Any company already forced to cede to this by lawsuit, should take it up again and force it to be overturned. All of them could use this to show it was *lawfare* in order to gain money and employment. They might just get a judge to reverse.

  15. PRCS says

    Nov 27, 2016 at 5:07 pm

    ” It was good to see people come together and express how much in solidarity they are with the Muslim community”

    Wow, that’s wonderful.

    But what do they know about Islam–the “Muslim community’s” complete way of life?

    Did any of those people even bother to do a little research on the subject before attending that shindig?

    Did any of them ask informed, embarrassing questions?

    Do they ever?

    Or do they always just nod their heads in affirmation of the speaker’s propaganda?

  16. john w says

    Nov 27, 2016 at 5:07 pm

    Islam is clearly an evil false religion that treats its women less than dogs. Anyone who thinks otherwise is kidding themselves. What faith kills their daughter for marrying another faith, or beats their wife to death for not cooking right, or rapes women and then charges them for adultery. Come on. The way they treat women and kids and other faiths, also the way they live, the way they act in foreign countries, it all points to a false religion of Satan. No way it even is a real faith, its more of a cult. I feel bad for those women that want out of it. For those who support it, they get what they deserve.

  17. ele says

    Nov 27, 2016 at 5:42 pm

    “She shared passages from the Qur’an that highlight the role of women.” Did she quote any? And then you have taqiyya.

  18. Guest says

    Nov 27, 2016 at 6:23 pm

    We heard what an American raised Muslim does for their woman, now what about the Middle Eastern ones. Where are their financial freedoms?

    • PRCS says

      Nov 27, 2016 at 6:31 pm

      In the family’s car–which they’re not allowed to drive.

  19. Hindu American says

    Nov 27, 2016 at 7:04 pm

    A lie often quoted by the oppressed muslimas is “the first wife of the Prophet Muhammad was a businesswoman, and he was one of her employees”. Really? Was that before or after “his first wife” was forced to convert to islam?

  20. Mo says

    Nov 27, 2016 at 7:06 pm

    Dump her in Saudi Arabia or Iran. Let’s see how well she loves Islam then! What an ignorant (or deliberately lying) woman.

    And what a betrayal this is to all the women around the world suffering under the death cult of Islam!

  21. Wellington says

    Nov 27, 2016 at 7:53 pm

    A Goebbels-like redux.

  22. somehistory says

    Nov 27, 2016 at 9:16 pm

    A big deal should be made of this: “sharia law,” Chehabbedine explained, is redundant, as “sharia” is a rough Arabic translation for “law.”)

    Because it is *unlawful* to do those things in all countries that are ruled by islam.

    The code of behavior that is *allowed* or *commanded* by islam is not *law.* All o those things allowed or commanded are unlawful according to Nature or Creation and most of the laws of sane nations.
    moslims call it “law”…but it should not be referred to as “law” by normal people who see islam for the evil that it is. It is totally unlawful to:
    Kill family members because they want to.
    Kill non-family members because they want to.
    Rape little children of both genders.
    Force people to convert or be sentenced to death.
    Take what is not theirs.
    Lie to police or other authorities.
    And everything else by which these devil-worshippers pass their time between killings.

    Some may not agree, but God our Creator made all natural Laws, gravity, light, magnetism, etc. and also Laws for how to treat one another. “Do to others what you wish them to do to you,” Jesus Christ.

    Anything out of harmony with these things, those things that moslims call “law” are all unlawful.

  23. gravenimage says

    Nov 27, 2016 at 11:16 pm

    Minnesota: Muslima “dispels myths” about treatment of women in Islam
    ………………………………

    This is not “dispelling” myths–it is promulgating them.

    More:

    The number one thing to understand, Chehabbedine said, is that religion and culture are two very different things. Not every culture that identifies as Islamic follows the Qur’an or the Hadith (the sayings of the Prophet) in quite the same way.
    ………………………………

    One need only look at the Qur’an and Hadith and model of the “Prophet” to see that the idea that the oppression of women in Muslim countries is anything but merely “cultural”.

    More:

    During her presentation at the Stillwater library, she dispelled many of the myths that Americans have about Islam, and especially the myth that Islamic women live in oppression. She shared passages from the Qur’an that highlight the role of women.
    ………………………………

    Bet she didn’t “share” any of the ones that Robert Spencer cites above…

    More:

    Islam recognizes the right of women to own property (in fact, the first wife of the Prophet Muhammad was a businesswoman, and he was one of her employees)…
    ………………………………

    This is one of the most ludicrous bits Muslims trot out. Khadija was a business woman *before* Islam began. There is no such figure in Islam after Khadija passes away. In fact, the “Prophet’s” other wives included a child, captives, and sex slaves.

    More:

    “I’m 40 years old, and I never paid a bill,” Chehabbedine said. “How does that work? Basically, the inheritance law that governs the system of Islam allows financial security throughout the life of a woman, specifically by giving the man double the amount of money by inheritance.”
    ………………………………

    Now *that* is a neat semantic trick–yes, Islam ensures the financial security of women by giving their inheritance to men…

    More:

    “If a woman wants to be responsible for her own expenses she can; it’s not like she can’t,” Chehabbedine said. “But if she doesn’t want to, she really doesn’t have to.”
    ………………………………

    Well, yes–unless her “Mehram” decides to beat her to death if she dares leave the house to work or get an education…

    More:

    Marriages are based on mutual love and understanding.
    ………………………………

    Many marriages in Islam are forced marriages, including those involving *children*. What kind of “love and understanding” does a victim find with her pedophile abuser?

    More:

    Many Americans believe that Islam promotes polygamy, which is allowed by Islam, but Chehabbedine said that Islam’s teachings on marriage serve to limit a man to four wives, rather than the limitless amount he could theoretically have outside of sharia.
    ………………………………

    Gee–“only” four! No idea that love and understanding can only really exist under monogamy.

    More:

    Monogamy is the norm;Chehabbedine couldn’t think of anyone she knew of who was in a polygamous marriage, though she explained it sometimes happens when a couple is unable to conceive a child. The wife always has input in this decision.
    ………………………………

    No, she doesn’t. Muslims come home with new wives all the time, and usually relegate the old wife to the role of servant. Since it is so difficult for women to divorce and to earn a living on her own, these rejected wives seldom have much choice.

    More:

    However, polyandry — a woman being married to multiple men — is prohibited, mostly because of lineage and inheritance rights.
    ………………………………

    Well, of course it is–no equal rights for women who want multiple husbands!

    More:

    The western world sometimes hears of forced marriages in Islam, but Chehabbedine said that consent is a requirement of marriage in Islam, and forced marriage is not an Islamic practice, but a cultural one.
    ………………………………

    What crap. The foul “Prophet” himself said that “silence is consent”. If a girl is too terrified to protest a forced marriage, this is considered “consent”.

    And such fear is *hardly* unwarranted–one of the most common reasons for “Honor Killing” is murdering girls who dare object to being sold off.

    More:

    Islam is especially reverent of mothers — in one story about the Prophet, a follower asks who among the people is most worthy of his companionship. When the Prophet says, “Your mother,” the man asks who is next. The Prophet repeats that his mother is most worthy two more times before finally saying “Your father.” Islam reveres many female figures, including Mary, mother of Jesus; Asiya, the wife of Pharaoh who rescued baby Moses; Khadijah, the first wife of the Prophet; and Fatima, the daughter of the Prophet.
    ………………………………

    Notice she carefully avoids mentioning the “Prophet’s” poor little child bride, Aisha…

    More:

    One of the foremost topics of the presentation was the headwear worn by many Muslim women: the headscarf or hijab. This symbolic garment is not required for Muslim women, but many choose to wear it as a sign of their modesty and faith.

    “It’s a choice, and it’s not something that can be forced,” Chehabbedine said.
    ………………………………

    Is that so? What about the words of this fine Muslim scholar, Mohammed al-Jibali:

    “By the age of ten, it becomes an obligation on us to force her to wear Hijab, and if she doesn’t wear Hijab, we hit her”.

    And it does not stop at hitting. Girls have been beaten, had acid thrown on them, and been “Honor Killed” for resisting the Hijab.

    “The Lonesome Death of Aqsa Parvez”

    http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/63437/lonesome-death-aqsa-parvez-robert-spencer

    More:

    “The main concept behind it is kind of moving away from the sexuality of a woman, and bringing about her femininity so that when she is talking, you’re actually listening. Basically, eliminating the bodily distraction.” …
    ………………………………

    Children as young as babes-in-arms are swathed in the veil, and even that does not always protect women from Muslim rape.

    Here’s more from the appalling Hanadi Chehabddine, claiming that an Infidel woman (supposedly) calling a Muslim woman a terrorist is…terrorism. Even if this occurred–which is doubtful–the idea that calling a Muslim a terrorist is morally equivalent to a Muslim murdering you in a Jihad terror attack is just ludicrous.

    http://www.startribune.com/rosenblum-muslim-bridge-builder-urges-us-to-fight-fear-ask-questions/364394821/

    She thinks that *laughing* is an appropriate response to the horrific Jihad massacre at the offices of Charlie Hebdo. She never condemns the slaughter.

    After her coreligonists butchered 14 people at a Christmas party last year, she now claims that *she* is scared. Grotesque projection–Infidels are not slaughtering Muslims–it is just the opposite.

    She does not condemn this Jihad terror attack, either.

    The article is a puff piece, but this Muslimah’s ugliness still shows through quite clearly.

  24. Manny says

    Nov 27, 2016 at 11:39 pm

    Somehow she fails to bring up that men under Islam are free to hit women – or at least their wives and children. She’s full of bull crap.

  25. mortimer says

    Nov 28, 2016 at 1:42 am

    Ways That Islam Degrades Women
    1. Islam allows polygamy making women second class. Women must suffer sharing their husband.
    2. Men may divorce their wife whenever they wish, by pronouncing talaq thrice. Women must ask a Sharia court for a divorce. They may refuse it for any reason.
    3. Women inherit half as much as men.
    4. Husbands are allowed to beat their wives.
    5. Islam recommends the practice of Female Genital Mutilation.
    6. Islam tells women their bodies are shameful and must be covered completely.
    7. Islam permits the rape of non-Muslim women.
    8. Islam encourages to take women as slaves as war booty.
    9. Islam encourages MEN to have sex outside marriage with slave girls. The wife must accept that according to Quran it is ‘halal’ (rightful) for her husband to have sex with his female slave.
    10. Only a Muslim and a male can be a judge. A non Muslim and a Muslim woman cannot be a judge. This means women’s viewpoint is not represented in law.
    11. The testimony of a Muslim woman in court is only half of that of a Muslim man.
    12. The blood money for a male is twice that of a female. That is plain discrimination.
    13. Stoning to death for adultery is a very harsh punishment. Mostly the women are victim of this. On many occasions women are tortured to make confessions of adultery so that they could be stoned to death.
    14. Only 4 male witnesses or 8 women may prove rape. No other proof is valid in court, not even DNA. In most cases, the rapists cannot be convicted and they are never punished. However, if a woman fails to prove that she has been raped then she may be convicted of adultery and stoned to death.
    15. Women do not have equal custody rights over her children on the event of divorce.
    16. There is no provision of alimony for divorced women.
    17. Muta marriage for Shia Muslims and Misgyar marriage for Sunni Muslims are in reality not any proper marriage, but kinds of legalized prostitution.
    18. Islam allows the practice of thighing or mufa’khathat with young children. It means placing the male organ between the thighs of the child.
    19. The paradise described in Islam is a place of lust and drinking.
    20. Islam promises paradise for the terrorists who blow themselves up. It says that 72 virgin houris would wait of those who would die for the sake of Allah. This is nothing but sex with magical slaves.

  26. Veka Fitzfrancis says

    Nov 28, 2016 at 3:48 am

    One of the foremost topics of the presentation was the headwear worn by many Muslim women: the headscarf or hijab. This symbolic garment is not required for Muslim women, but many choose to wear it as a sign of their modesty and faith.

    “It’s a choice, and it’s not something that can be forced,” Chehabbedine said.

    Funny, if she tried to walk around Iran, Saudi or the UAE without a headscarf the morality police will show up and arrest her, if some local lad doesn’t rape her first.

  27. ibrahim itace muhammed says

    Nov 28, 2016 at 4:45 am

    christian deceivers,your mithraist evil bible(the book of genocide and phornography)consider women as mere sex object not partners in love.islam considers marriage as foundation of family system.filthy christians have sex indiscriminately producing children outside marriage calling it right of women.is that not life style of wild animals?islam says right of woman is within marital tie in the family system.the husband is head of the family. it is his responsiblity to take care of the family.quran enjoins muslims to be kind to their wive and respect their human diginity.the symbolic correctional beating is the last resort and shall not inflict any pain as explain in the hadith.prophet muhammad never beat any of his wives.he stopped at admonition stage.muslims are expected to excercise the same restrain

    • eur says

      Nov 28, 2016 at 5:12 am

      The bible is no source of law in any western country. We have the Roman law as the origin of our civilization but obviously much more evolved as societies change. The Bible means nothing in terms of laws in the Western world, absolutely nothing. Almost nobody has read the bible, we know things by watching hollywood movies. We are citizens who are not slaves to religion. Our legal system guarantees and ensures equality, women and men are equal. Precisely in Islamic societies the bible has much more weight, stonings and shit of the style. Islam is hetero patriarchy is maximum state, machismo, submission, control, inquisition, lack of freedom of expression, sexual repression…

      “the symbolic correctional beating is the last resort and shall not inflict any pain…” GUAUUUUUUUUU

      And who the hell do you think you are to have the power to hit a woman? Bastard fascist, bad born, abuser of women .. disgusting. There will be war, no doubt. Islam must disappear.

    • FYI says

      Nov 28, 2016 at 8:01 am

      It seems Ibrahim itace muhammed that you are quite unfamiliar with the sinful life of the mass murdering,polygamist, Holy Spirit-blaspheming false prophet mahomet.
      You also appear unable -like most moslems -to understand that mahomet was a persistent violater of ALL of God’s Commandments- especially in regards to murder and adultery.
      It is not possible to be at odds with God’s Commandments and be a prophet.
      It is not possible to say “slay the unbeliever”{koran2:191} and therefore sin against God’s Sixth commandment “Thou shalt not kill”.That is evil.
      It is not possible to live a wicked life like mahomet did and belong to God.
      Logical reasoning appears to be missing in islam. islamic belief and teachings are in disobedience to God’s commandments.
      revealed by Moses-a man even moslems say is a prophet of God.At least Moses is a true prophet!
      Turn away from your false creed and come into the True God’s light.
      You will lose your soul if you follow mahomet and his “allah”.You will only have yourself to blame.
      Go find a list of God’s Commandments and see if you explain why your koran disagrees with them.
      Both the Jewish Torah and the Christian New testament agree with God’s Commandments.
      Your koran,your “allah” and your mahomet doesn’t.

    • Angemon says

      Nov 28, 2016 at 10:36 am

      ibrahim itace muhammed posted:

      “christian deceivers,your mithraist evil bible(the book of genocide and phornography)consider women as mere sex object not partners in love.”

      Citations needed.

      “islam considers marriage as foundation of family system.filthy christians have sex indiscriminately producing children outside marriage calling it right of women.”

      This is demonstrably false. Show one one mainstream Christian sect that teaches such things. Muslim men are allowed to have sex slaves – i.e., their religion lets them to have sex outside marriage. Aren’t children born from such repugnant, institutionalized rape bastards?

      “is that not life style of wild animals?”

      Islam? Where you wipe your ass with your own hands and are allowed to go out and wage war for booty? Certainly.

      “islam says right of woman is within marital tie in the family system.”

      I.e., the rights of women are dependant on men.

      “the husband is head of the family. it is his responsiblity to take care of the family.”

      See above.

      “quran enjoins muslims to be kind to their wive and respect their human diginity.”

      Unless they fear rebellion, in which case they can beat them.

      “the symbolic correctional beating is the last resort and shall not inflict any pain as explain in the hadith.”

      Bukhari, Volume 7, Book 72, Number 715:

      Narrated ‘Ikrima:

      Rifa’a divorced his wife whereupon ‘AbdurRahman bin Az-Zubair Al-Qurazi married her. ‘Aisha said that the lady (came), wearing a green veil (and complained to her (Aisha) of her husband and showed her a green spot on her skin caused by beating). It was the habit of ladies to support each other, so when Allah’s Apostle came, ‘Aisha said, “I have not seen any woman suffering as much as the believing women. Look! Her skin is greener than her clothes!”When ‘AbdurRahman heard that his wife had gone to the Prophet, he came with his two sons from another wife. She said, “By Allah! I have done no wrong to him but he is impotent and is as useless to me as this,” holding and showing the fringe of her garment, ‘Abdur-Rahman said, “By Allah, O Allah’s Apostle! She has told a lie! I am very strong and can satisfy her but she is disobedient and wants to go back to Rifa’a.” Allah’s Apostle said, to her, “If that is your intention, then know that it is unlawful for you to remarry Rifa’a unless Abdur-Rahman has had sexual intercourse with you.” Then the Prophet saw two boys with ‘Abdur-Rahman and asked (him), “Are these your sons?” On that ‘AbdurRahman said, “Yes.” The Prophet said, “You claim what you claim (i.e.. that he is impotent)? But by Allah, these boys resemble him as a crow resembles a crow,”

      How can one can beat someone until they are green while not causing any pain?

      “prophet muhammad never beat any of his wives.he stopped at admonition stage.”

      Sahih muslim, Book 004, Number 2127:

      Muhammad b. Qais said (to the people): Should I not narrate to you (a hadith of the Holy Prophet) on my authority and on the authority of my mother? We thought that he meant the mother who had given him birth. He (Muhammad b. Qais) then reported that it was ‘A’isha who had narrated this: Should I not narrate to you about myself and about the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him)? We said: Yes. She said: When it was my turn for Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) to spend the night with me, he turned his side, put on his mantle and took off his shoes and placed them near his feet, and spread the corner of his shawl on his bed and then lay down till he thought that I had gone to sleep. He took hold of his mantle slowly and put on the shoes slowly, and opened the door and went out and then closed it lightly. I covered my head, put on my veil and tightened my waist wrapper, and then went out following his steps till he reached Baqi’. He stood there and he stood for a long time. He then lifted his hands three times, and then returned and I also returned. He hastened his steps and I also hastened my steps. He ran and I too ran. He came (to the house) and I also came (to the house). I, however, preceded him and I entered (the house), and as I lay down in the bed, he (the Holy Prophet) entered the (house), and said: Why is it, O ‘A’isha, that you are out of breath? I said: There is nothing. He said: Tell me or the Subtle and the Aware would inform me. I said: Messenger of Allah, may my father and mother be ransom for you, and then I told him (the whole story). He said: Was it the darkness (of your shadow) that I saw in front of me? I said: Yes. He [muhammad] struck me on the chest which caused me pain, and then said: Did you think that Allah and His Apostle would deal unjustly with you? She said: Whatsoever the people conceal, Allah will know it. He said: Gabriel came to me when you saw me. He called me and he concealed it from you. I responded to his call, but I too concealed it from you (for he did not come to you), as you were not fully dressed. I thought that you had gone to sleep, and I did not like to awaken you, fearing that you may be frightened. He (Gabriel) said: Your Lord has commanded you to go to the inhabitants of Baqi’ (to those lying in the graves) and beg pardon for them. I said: Messenger of Allah, how should I pray for them (How should I beg forgiveness for them)? He said: Say, Peace be upon the inhabitants of this city (graveyard) from among the Believers and the Muslims, and may Allah have mercy on those who have gone ahead of us, and those who come later on, and we shall, God willing, join you.

      I told you, it-faced muhammad, I’ve read your books.

      “muslims are expected to excercise the same restrain”

      And they gleefully do – beating their wives until they are green and causing them pain.

  28. Matthieu Baudin says

    Nov 28, 2016 at 6:36 am

    “… During her presentation … she dispelled many of the myths that Americans have about Islam, and especially the myth that Islamic women live in oppression…”

    For Muslim born women living in countries that are predominantly non-Muslim, one of the most glaring forms of oppression, and one little talked about in polite conversation, is the fact that while Muslim men are free to choose to marry non-Muslim women, Muslim women are only permitted to marry Muslim men. This marriage taboo, that attaches itself only to women is universal and its breach is not only met by disapproval but usually threats of violence, actual violence or murder. Thus while Muslim born women live a closeted life in this and other important respects, non-Muslim wives are also oppressed by being taken on board as malleable accessories to their Muslim husbands. Furthermore, these women’s children are then forced, within traditional Islamic norms, to follow the Islamic religious affiliation of their fathers. It is easy to gloss over these inconvenient truths if they are simply not mentioned at community education seminars like the one in which Hanadi Chehabbedine presided. Traditional Islam oppresses all women and the soon we face up to the fact the sooner we can challenge this scourge within modern societies.

  29. G says

    Nov 28, 2016 at 6:41 am

    She should be bannished to the centre of Islam – the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia for a quick ride on the ‘Learning Curve’.

    • eur says

      Nov 28, 2016 at 7:14 am

      No need to go so far. In Morocco this week on television have explained how to make up women to hide the beatings. Amazing when we all know that in Islamic societies there is no abuse, only in the decadent Western society happen such things. A few weeks ago a Spanish surgeon (he is an artist, he makes it free for the needy) operated a Moroccan woman despised by her husband for a deformity that had come to her face. Because being repudiated by her husband she was an outcast, had no access to money, bank .. her family no longer had the duty to take care of her because it was no longer her responsibility …That is Islam … fascist patriarchy.

  30. Lesley says

    Nov 28, 2016 at 7:52 am

    It is possible that the female speaker in this article comes from an exceptionally functional family and that the restraints derived from Islam were administered to her in love and for support. Her case is exceptional and while she is lucky to have the support of a wonderful family, her implied claim of representing the normative female experience under Islam is wrong for obvious reasons.

    I would wager that Paris Hilton’s family has raised her in a cocoon of material support and comfort, and it would be just as inappropriate for her to claim that she is representing the average female experience in the West…

    I think the feminist movement overcorrected some inequalities for women in the West to the point that motherhood isn’t as appreciated as it should be; many women work outside the home (but still get stuck with all the housework); during my dating years generation X men on the whole seemed more confused about how to be a good, strong family guy. I think this cultural overcorrection is the reason why someone like Chehebbadine has a platform.

    The most telling thing in the article is the one not stated. If Islam is all that great, then why did you come here? Why did you not go to another Muslim or Muslim majority country? Liar 😉

    • Kay says

      Nov 28, 2016 at 8:56 am

      It’s certainly possible that her own family situation is positive–and important to point out that she came here rather than going to a Muslim country.
      After all, in few cases are people choosing and embracing Islam. If you’re from such a community it is much harder to be an apostate, better just fly under the radar.
      But shame on her for defending all Islam and shame on those who use her example to turn a blind eye to all the injustices, even those written in their books.

  31. duh swami says

    Nov 28, 2016 at 8:16 am

    The way she is dressed is proof of her own oppression…Sometimes normal women like to let their hair down and have some fun…Muslimahs are not allowed to have fun…The Ayatollah said so…

  32. RAB says

    Nov 28, 2016 at 10:13 am

    This Muslima says the wearing of the hijab etc. is not required for Muslim women. She says it’s a choice and cannot be forced..I do not read Arabic but, unless I require remedial English, Surah 33:59 of the Koran reads as if it is a direct command from Allah to Muhammad to tell Muslim women “to draw their cloaks (veils) all over their bodies (i.e. screen themselves completely except the eyes or one eye to see the way). That will be better that they should be known (as free respectable women) so as not to be annoyed” (official Saudi translation, with additions to text). It sounds to me as if this contradicts the statements made by this Muslima. However, if I have misunderstood this verse, will someone please enlighten me. Is it also possible that the reference to “free respectable women [Muslimas] means that uncovered women are asking to be raped? But then perhaps I’m not being fair to this lovely young Muslima who is simply trying to disabuse us of our misunderstanding of the Religion of Peace?

    • eur says

      Nov 28, 2016 at 10:56 am

      In Spain for a few years he is broadcasting a television called “cordoba tv”. Its objective is to spread Islam (they only know to proselytize, they do not contribute anything else) and to deny the myths abaout islam … well, in one of the chapters spoke about the yizia, the sharia, the caliphate … the imam who spoke ended up giving reason in everything. He intended to demystify and it turns out that he admitted that they believe in the universal caliphate, believe in sharia as a political, social law Believe that the government should be Islamic because they say that it is the most just thing and that non-Muslims will be “protected” by the Islamic government. They do not believe in equality, in multicultural societies, they believe that they are morally superior and that their theocratic laws must prevail…. the only “decent” he came to say is that while they do not live in an Islamic society they must respect the norms. That is all, they are waiting for the moment, they truly want to implant Sharia and to annul the rest of social norms, cultures, traditions … they are totalitarian.

  33. ibrahim itace muhammed says

    Nov 28, 2016 at 11:46 am

    angemon,read the hadith in arabic version.that striking is customarily a matter of loving play.in another hadith prophet muhammad used to play with his wives including joging and runing race.he enjoined muslims to entertaine their wives with loving gesture.such entertainment depends on customary practice.if you hit buttocks of your wife,is that harmful?some women enjoy it. on the hadith you cited that a woman complained against her husban for inflicting injury on her with scar,did the prophet condone it?i know the portion of that verse on correctional beating ended as”darban ghair mubarrahin(a symbolic beating that will not cause injury or pain)”.some islamic scholars gave example of such symbolic like pushing your wife saying don’t do it again.the preponderant view of learned islamic jurists is that if a husband beats his wife inflicting injury on her with pain,it will be a ground for dissolution of the marriage.see badaruzzaujain wa nahafatul haramain by ibn jauzi for detail. angemon,please bear with my english.arabic is my mother tongue.

    • eur says

      Nov 28, 2016 at 12:44 pm

      blablabla hadith blablabla Mohammed ,blablabla islamic jurists ….. fascist junk!!! you speak of law and you do not know what a habeas corpus is, nothing about human rights, about free will, freedom of expression .. everything is hadith, corán, sunna … all of that is fascism, totalitarian fascist garbage. Islam = Fascism, Allah akbar = heil hitler, Koran = mein kaft. Trash .Before Mahomma the Arabs followed the Sunna, that of the ancestors. With the arrival of the assassin Mohammed and his followers began to follow in the footsteps of that warlord, military, religious and political leader. Ridiculous.

    • Angemon says

      Nov 29, 2016 at 5:42 am

      ibrahim itace muhammed posted:

      “angemon,read the hadith in arabic version.”

      I don’t need to read the arabic version when there are translations made by muslims for muslims. This nonsensical knee-jerk reaction of “you need to read it in arabic to understand it” directly goes against what the quran says about being easy to understand and that islam is meant for the whole world, don’t you think?

      “that striking is customarily a matter of loving play.”

      Aisha and the woman beaten until her skin turned green certainly did not seem to enjoy it.

      “in another hadith prophet muhammad used to play with his wives including joging and runing race.”

      That’s irrelevant to the hadith I mentioned.

      “he enjoined muslims to entertaine their wives with loving gesture.”

      Again, irrelevant.

      “such entertainment depends on customary practice.if you hit buttocks of your wife,is that harmful?some women enjoy it.”

      The hadith specifically says he hit Aisha in the chest. And in context, it certainly wasn’t with the intent of loving play. Plus, now you’re changing the golaposts. First you claimed muhammad never hit his wives, now, after I pointed out a hadith contradicting what you wrote, you’re saying that it was all in loving play.

      “on the hadith you cited that a woman complained against her husban for inflicting injury on her with scar,did the prophet condone it?”

      Yes, he sided with the man. Notice that I quoted the whole hadith in anticipation of that line of enquiry.

      “i know the portion of that verse on correctional beating ended as”darban ghair mubarrahin(a symbolic beating that will not cause injury or pain)”.”

      Her skin was green. She went to complain that her husband beat her.

      “some islamic scholars gave example of such symbolic like pushing your wife saying don’t do it again.”

      Irrelevant for the hadith.

      “the preponderant view of learned islamic jurists is that if a husband beats his wife inflicting injury on her with pain,it will be a ground for dissolution of the marriage.see badaruzzaujain wa nahafatul haramain by ibn jauzi for detail. ”

      I guess they just know better than muhammad, who sided with the husband who beat his wife until her skin turned green…

  34. Susette says

    Nov 28, 2016 at 1:18 pm

    Most everything she says occurs for women in civilized Western societies, because basic human rights transcend 7th century “religious” edicts. We can keep our names. Education is a basic right for all, and there is no need to specify “male and female” because we are all Humans.We can own property. We can choose to work or not to work. We are automatically entitled to spousal inheritance. It is a privilege to pay bills and possess financial acumen. We can spend money we make on ourselves, if we so choose. Our marriages are based on love and understanding because we choose, not “consent” to, our marriage partner, based on our shared values and goals, and mutual respect. We are not forced to marry someone within our religion. We outlawed polygamy because it is a lifestyle that leads to unbalanced relationships, strife and resentment. Western societies also honor our mothers. Modesty does not require head coverings or loose clothing in any religion but islam, because muslim males are unable to control their sexual impulses, and inherently believe that women are born to serve their sexual desires, including rape and beatings if she doesn’t comply. The hijab is a distraction, that for most in the West, perpetuates their religious standing as a second class member of islam. I rarely see non-muslims conversing with muslim women because they are programmed to recite the koran and cannot freely speak their minds. There is nothing in her message that women in Western societies don’t enjoy. She is merely purporting an historical perspective of 7th century islam that is not relevant today.

  35. Crusades Were Right! says

    Nov 28, 2016 at 1:27 pm

    “As a Lebanese Muslim, Chehabbedine grew up with many more rights than her sisters in Saudi Arabia…”

    Could that have something to do with the fact that Lebanon was, until recently, a Christian majority country, I wonder?

  36. mark says

    Nov 28, 2016 at 2:31 pm

    I’ve seen the way women are treated in Pakistan. Step out of line and get acid thrown in your face or suffer an “accident” with a cooker.

    What action will the Pakistani police take? None whatsoever.

  37. eildertvinkenborg says

    Nov 28, 2016 at 2:56 pm

    The symbolic correctional beating is as humilating as the beating it self

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