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New Zealand: Muslim cleric removed from Federation of Islamic Associations for anti-Semitic remarks

Nov 23, 2016 9:37 am By Robert Spencer

“Dr Sahib was the secretary of one of the federation’s committees. He retains his role as the president of the Al-Taqwa mosque.”

Why? Either the Muslims of New Zealand approve of his anti-Semitic remarks, or they don’t. This reaction is equivocal.

Meanwhile, what will New Zealand authorities do when they discover that the Qur’an depicts the Jews as fabricating things and falsely ascribing them to Allah (2:79; 3:75, 3:181, 5:64); loving to listen to lies (5:41); disobeying Allah and never observing his commands (5:13); disputing and quarreling (2:247); hiding the truth and misleading people (3:78); staging rebellion against the prophets and rejecting their guidance (2:55); being hypocritical (2:14, 2:44); giving preference to their own interests over the teachings of Muhammad (2:87); wishing evil for people and trying to mislead them (2:109); feeling pain when others are happy or fortunate (3:120); being arrogant about their being Allah’s beloved people (5:18); devouring people’s wealth by subterfuge (4:161); slandering the true religion and being cursed by Allah (4:46); killing the prophets (2:61); being merciless and heartless (2:74); never keeping their promises or fulfilling their words (2:100); being unrestrained in committing sins (5:79); being cowardly (59:13-14); being miserly (4:53); and more?

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“Controversial cleric stood down by Islamic Federation,” RNZ, November 23, 2016:

A Muslim cleric criticised for anti-Semitic speeches at an Auckland mosque has been permanently stood down from his role in the Federation of Islamic Associations (FIANZ).

The speeches made by Shaykh Dr Mohammed Anwar Sahib at the Al-Taqwa mosque, in Manukau, have been widely condemned, but the cleric said he had been misinterpreted.

Dr Sahib was the secretary of one of the federation’s committees. He retains his role as the president of the Al-Taqwa mosque.

In a statement released this morning, FIANZ said it “vehemently opposed all teaching promoting intolerance, prejudice and discrimination against the followers of any faith”.

The Human Rights Commission is investigating the comments and FIANZ said it would fully cooperate with the commission.

“We thank New Zealanders for their feedback, solidarity and support,” its statement said.

The comments emerged in video footage published on the blog Whale Oil, which Dr Sahib said had been compiled from several different sermons and taken out of context.

FIANZ president Hazim Arafeh said the organisation did not agree with any comments made by Dr Sahib.

“We do have a consultation process that we go through, and then FIANZ decided that it has to distance itself from any anti-Semitic or hate speeches.”

Dr Sahib has declined a request for an interview.

Ethnic Communities Minister Peseta Sam Lotu-Iiga welcomed FIANZ’s move, saying he believed that was the right thing to do.

New Zealand Jewish Council spokesperson David Cumin said, while it was glad FIANZ had stood down Dr Sahib from its organisation, it was worrying he was still able to preach.

“It’s still concerning that he might still be able to influence people at his mosque though and I hope he is watched closely,” Mr Cumin said.

The Human Rights Commission said it had received 17 complaints about Dr Sahib and it was investigating….

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  1. Jay Boo says

    Nov 23, 2016 at 9:45 am

    New Zealand, at least did something against him.
    Obama would have promoted him.

    • gravenimage says

      Nov 23, 2016 at 10:14 pm

      Jay Boo, my guess is that the New Zealand Federation of Islamic Associations only acted here because this Imam’s open comments were an embarrassment to their Taqiyya.

    • Jerry says

      Nov 24, 2016 at 11:05 pm

      If only they also removed Mohammd from the Qur’an for
      anti Jewish and anti Christian remarks!

  2. PRCS says

    Nov 23, 2016 at 10:34 am

    “Associate Professor Jim Veitch, a specialist in religious affairs at Victoria University, said the comments by the cleric reflected a conservative Islam view.
    He told Morning Report that the view Dr Sahib was expressing was “well-established” in the Koran, the holy book of Islam.”

    But, big but, here:

    “In a statement released this morning, FIANZ said it “vehemently opposed all teaching promoting intolerance, prejudice and discrimination against the followers of any faith”.”

    I don’t think Professor Veitch is the bullshitter, here.

    “The Human Rights Commission said it had received 17 complaints about Dr Sahib and it was investigating.”

    Have any members of his “flock” ever challenged his statements/assertions on the spot?

  3. Angemon says

    Nov 23, 2016 at 10:50 am

    New Zealand Jewish Council spokesperson David Cumin said, while it was glad FIANZ had stood down Dr Sahib from its organisation, it was worrying he was still able to preach.

    Indeed.

    • mortimer says

      Nov 23, 2016 at 11:12 am

      Dr Sahib was censured for preaching what is in the Islamic texts.

      • gravenimage says

        Nov 23, 2016 at 10:15 pm

        Yup.

  4. Michael Laudahn says

    Nov 23, 2016 at 11:00 am

    NZ authorities will do nothing, whether they discover anything or not. They are as useless as authorities are in any other western nation. Add to this a large degree of ignorance, carelessness, targetted misinformation courtesy of the country’s MSM, plus making the whole thing a kind of taboo issue (there’s no open discussion of the issue), and you get a feeling of the overall situation.

    The only thing that has so far protected NZ from beig overrun like Australia, US, Canada or Europe is a mixture of its relative remoteness, and a certain level of sound stubbornness on the level of the average kiwi – also those in uniform or sitting in a government office. If this is a sufficient formula for long-term survival remains to be seen. To me, it looks more like muddling along – but it might do the trick. .)

  5. Michael Copeland says

    Nov 23, 2016 at 12:31 pm

    What was that about being “vehemently opposed” to “intolerance, prejudice, and discrimination”?

    Intolerance
    “And whoever seeks a religion other than Islam never will it be accepted from him” K. 3:85
    Prejudice
    “an excellent pattern …between us and you enmity and hatred forever….” K. 60:4
    discrimination
    Muslims are “severe against disbelievers, and merciful among themselves” K. 48:29.

    The Koran is part of Islamic law, with the death penalty for denying any verse.
    The killing can be performed, vigilante-style and free of repercussion, by anyone, “since it is killing someone who deserves to die'(Manual of Islamic Law, o8.4).

    Someone tell the NZ authorities.

  6. PRCS says

    Nov 23, 2016 at 1:19 pm

    The RNZ article includes this relevant YouTube videos:

    • gravenimage says

      Nov 23, 2016 at 10:22 pm

      This Imam has also said this about women:

      “No woman can dare step out of her house without the permission of her husband”. This is canonical Purdah.

      http://shalom.kiwi/2016/11/shocking-and-repeated-anti-semitism-misogyny-by-new-zealand-muslim-leader/

      • PRCS says

        Nov 24, 2016 at 9:34 am

        Yup.

        Right under our noses, in our faces, and a collective thumb in our eyes.

  7. PRCS says

    Nov 23, 2016 at 1:20 pm

    And this one:

    • Guest says

      Nov 23, 2016 at 9:10 pm

      Considering the effort NZ has gone to to try and eliminate domestic violence, why on earth are we letting in people whose faith actually instructs them to beat their wives??

      • marie says

        Nov 24, 2016 at 8:37 pm

        We contradict our own sovereign laws for this parasite backward mob
        that relentlessly will leach off our western countries welfare system.
        Our governments insist on bringing in these people and expect others
        to pay for them…us, the hard earning taxpaying citizen.
        This is a theft a crime our countries are perpetrating against their own citizens.
        A forced redistribution of our citizens money!
        Australia has enormous problems to solve with thousands of citizens
        elderly living below the poverty line. In NSW a report out a few days ago
        reveals that our aged care homes are so underfunded that the facilities are
        feeding their frail pureed cheap party pies!
        More than 60000 homeless in NSW. At this time the Australian government
        have plans to accommodate refugees in our aged care facilities!
        Apparently there is no end to what our government plans for these 3rd world people. There is even talk of including the family home in the assets test for an Australian pension and to implement death Duties!
        Our governments want to force their citizens to fund the 3rd worlds retirement fund!

  8. DP111 says

    Nov 23, 2016 at 2:57 pm

    Beautiful country , New Zealand.

    But then they were stupid enough to elect a socialist PM, Helen Clerk, and they now have a Muslim problem.

    What is it with Female PMs of a socialist bent. They love people who like raping children, killing people , and bombing.innocents.

    • Damocles Junior says

      Nov 23, 2016 at 3:27 pm

      Your comment says it all.

    • Aaisha says

      Nov 23, 2016 at 5:18 pm

      Well not Muslim are Bad people as you have protrait it the American are doing the same killing innocent people yet no one of you have voiced that I do agree that the above imam should have been culture conscious or should have respect the other religion but he was simply trying to explain the history or the past and some where in between he crossed the limit but that doesn’t mean we as human being or I as a Muslim will start hating of doing that short of thing that you have mentioned

    • gravenimage says

      Nov 23, 2016 at 10:26 pm

      With male “leaders” like Obama, Trudeau, and Cameron, it is not just women who are dhimmis.

  9. Stan Lee says

    Nov 23, 2016 at 3:47 pm

    Obviously, the Islamic Federation is trying to control the controversy by laying it upon the one cleric. However, that’s as far as it goes, because the Islamic Federation of N.Z. must realize that if it points the finger of guilt at Dr. Sahib, the Federation, in effect, is contradicting its own Quran, which singles out Jews like no other religious group for persecution and death. Unless, we are all about to be given the good news that Islam has rethought its centuries of Jew-hating and will reverse its passage in the Quran aimed strictly at Jews, as a gesture of peace and brotherhood. .Do you really think so? I don’t!

    I shall be doubtful at present, but craziness does happen. We have here Muslim cleric, Dr. Sahib, being weighted with the sole responsibility of his actions, while the Muslim Federation of N.Z. wants to be “the good, tolerant, fellows. And, about the same time, the Pope of Rome brings forth his message to parish priests that abortion will be their call at their local level! I’m awaiting the next surprise under subject: Religion.

    • gravenimage says

      Nov 23, 2016 at 11:17 pm

      True. I just think Sahib was a bit too overt, and became an embarrassment to fooling the Kufar. Nor more than that.

  10. Saleem Smith says

    Nov 23, 2016 at 10:03 pm

    Testing

  11. gravenimage says

    Nov 23, 2016 at 10:10 pm

    New Zealand: Muslim cleric removed from Federation of Islamic Associations for anti-Semitic remarks
    ………………….

    Why remove him? Hating Jews is mainstream Islam.

  12. Baucent says

    Nov 24, 2016 at 1:52 am

    The New Zealand member of Parliament and leader of the New Zealand First Party, the Rt Hon Winston Peters released this statement Tuesday.

    “New Zealand First wants the government to confirm if controversial Islamic cleric, Dr Mohammad Anwar Sahib, is advising it on Halal issues.

    “New Zealand First views very seriously the kind of anti-Semitic comments that Dr Sahib delivered in an incendiary lecture earlier this month,” says New Zealand First Leader and Northland MP Rt Hon Winston Peters.

    “We have repeatedly warned that open door immigration would bring in people like this who do not share our traditions, values or outlook.

    “Ethnic Affairs Minister Sam Lotu-liga needs to follow up his comments by asking Primary Industries Minister Nathan Guy why Dr Mohammad Sahib claims to be an advisor to the government on Halal issues and how much have taxpayers paid him for this ‘advice’.

    “The silence of the Federation of Islamic Associations and any form of outrage from liberal handwringers has been deafening.

    “We are not talking of an outlier here because Dr Sahib is President of the Federation of Islamic Scholars of New Zealand. Kiwis reject extremist Islam and any attempt to make us into a South Pacific Middle-East but that’s part and parcel of having open-door immigration.

    “The Charities Commission should be taking a closer look at the At Taqwa Trust Dr Sahib chairs because how do these comments fit with: “the relief of poverty, the advancement of education or religion, or any other matter beneficial to the community,” Mr Peters said.

    • Singh the Sikh says

      Nov 24, 2016 at 4:11 am

      These bastards should be left to rot in their own countries. End of problem.

  13. Crispus Augustus says

    Nov 24, 2016 at 2:04 am

    The reaction in New Zealand to the Imam’s comments provides an instructive contrast to the reaction to some controversial remarks made recently by a well known charismatic christian preacher, Bishop Brian Tamaki here in New Zealand. Tamaki made his remarks a few days before the Imam’s were publicised. In a Sunday sermon he claimed that recent earthquakes in New Zealand were caused by human sin, referencing a verse in the Bible that says something to the effect of “the earth convulses under the iniquity of the people”. As to the iniquity that causes these catastrophes he spoke of sin generally but also made specific reference to homosexuality and homosexual clergy.

    The reaction against Tamaki was swift, widespread and brutal. Media commentators, politicians, Christian leaders and a large portion of the general public condemned him for what they regarded as his homophobia, bigotry and hatefulness. An online petition is underway demanding that his church be stripped of its tax free status and social media is full of comments and memes ridiculing him and his followers.

    Whatever your view of Tamaki’s comments, you would do well to note that there has been no large scale public outrage against the Imam, no persecution of him in the media, no social media memes, no online petitions against his mosque, no condemnation of his followers, and, aside from some general coverage in the press and a handful of complaints to the Race Relations Office (most of which were almost certainly filed by Jews), there has been silence.

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