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Toronto: Muslim police chaplain who taught that marriage with 9-year-old is acceptable to stay with force

Nov 5, 2016 10:22 am By Christine Douglass-Williams

Jihad Watch previously covered the Toronto police chaplain’s claim that women “sin” if they do not consent to sex with their husbands. Musleh Khan describes himself as a marriage counselor. In a 2013 webinar, Khan highlighted “the rights and responsibilities” of a wife, in his efforts to “help couples of the Muslim-faith stay married.” About his teachings:

A woman should be “obedient” to her husband at all times and must not refrain from intimacy without a “valid excuse,” he says. The slideshow accompanying Khan’s lecture says sickness and obligatory fasting would qualify.

Islamic scholars say if a woman refuses “without a valid reason then she committed a major sin,” Khan says.

During the Question and Answer period of Khan’s speech, he was asked about Muhammad’s marriage to the child Aisha: “[Aisha] was 9-year-old… she was young and why is this it allowed?” This was his answer:

When you’re I believe 18 then you can do it on your own. In some parts of Europe it’s 15, OK. In some parts of Africa it’s even lower than that. Everywhere you go in the world you’re finding different ages.

So what is the real age to get married if it’s so different everywhere you go? The answer it’s our prophet [Mohammad] peace and blessings be upon [who ruled] at the age of puberty.

Don’t compare that time to 2015. A 9-10-year-old back then is what most 25 and 30 year olds are now. OK. The maturity level is completely different.

Further content of his speech is provided here.

Khan is well aware of the duties of police to protect and to serve. Now that he has been busted, he defends himself by saying that his comments were taken out of context, and Toronto Police Service spokesperson Meaghan Gray believes him. She states in his defense that Khan “does not believe women are second-class citizens. In fact, he frequently lectures to women and focuses on the affects of domestic violence in the community.”

The widespread coverage of Khan’s remarks, and his being retained by the Toronto police, reveals something far greater than the case of one man in a position of trust and authority being flogged by the media for publicly revealing troubling Islamic religio-cultural norms. Khan’s case brings authorities head to head with Western society’s cultural norms, and particularly with Canada’s multicultural identity. It shows authorities’ reluctance to contend openly with the cultural and religious practices of Muslim immigrants that are not compatible with Western pluralistic societies and principles of human rights. It shows the falsity of the diversity gurus’ insistence that in a multicultural nation no culture should be deemed superior to another. Such drivel is clearly a dismissal of the stark fact that it is fully acceptable in some cultures to engage in what Western society deems to be human rights abuses: the subjugation and abuse of women. In our culture, we do not allow child brides, the stoning of women, FGM, honor killings, the cutting of hands, beheadings, death for apostasy and the like: to forbid and criticize such practices is neither racist nor discriminatory, but a responsibility of the officials who have sworn to protect us.

Toronto police chaplain Musleh Khan is not only unsuitable in his role, but his remaining in his post is an indictment of those who hold authority over him. There need to be full background checks of candidates for such positions, conducted by people who are actually informed about these issues.

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“Toronto police chaplain under fire for women’s ‘obedience’ comments to stay with force for now”, by Shanifa Nasser, CBC News, November 4, 2016:

A Toronto police chaplain under fire for comments made about women’s “obedience” to their husbands will continue to serve with the force for the time being, CBC News has learned.

Musleh Khan met recently with Toronto police Chief Mark Saunders, and “would like an opportunity to be heard by members of the Toronto Police Service,” spokeswoman Meaghan Gray told CBC News on Friday.

“We will be facilitating that opportunity. In the meantime, he continues as a volunteer chaplain,” Grey said.

The force would not comment further.

Khan drew ire on Tuesday from critics including the Toronto police union and the Canadian Council of Muslim Women over comments he made in a 2013 webinar for Muslim couples.

‘Thorough background check’

In the almost hour-long seminar — called The Heart of the Home: the Rights and Responsibilities of a Wife — Khan appears to imply a wife must make herself sexually available and “not withhold this right from her husband without a valid excuse,” such as sickness or obligatory fasting.

He adds refusal is, according to some Islamic scholars, considered “a major sin.”Khan also describes a wife’s other duties and rights in the video….

Gray said in an earlier email to CBC News, that Khan, like other civilian members of the force, went through a “thorough background check” that includes checks of family, friends and a “review of social media footprint.”‘Imprecise translation’

Khan has said his comments were taken out of context, and that the Arabic term he translated as “obedience” denotes loyalty and devotion.

“I realize how someone unfamiliar with this nuance can misunderstand my imprecise translation to mean something different to my intended meaning, and the meaning that I know my audience at the time understood clearly,” Khan told CBC News in a statement Tuesday.

Nevertheless, he said he appreciated the criticism and would “be more mindful in clarifying my steadfast support of women’s equality,” adding he remained ready to serve with the force.

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  1. billybob says

    Nov 5, 2016 at 10:28 am

    “Women’s equality” is an an oxymoron to a true Muslim.

  2. Stephanie says

    Nov 5, 2016 at 10:32 am

    … in accordance with allah & pedo muh.,

    ‘ Narrated `Aisha: that the (‘beste example’ quran.com/33/21 for ALL times) Prophet (ﷺ) married her when she was SIX years old(!)’
    http://sunnah.com/bukhari/67/69

    https://twitter.com/schnellmann_org/status/794907150221012994

    • Stephanie says

      Nov 5, 2016 at 10:32 am

      Typo: beste = best

    • Greyhound Fancier says

      Nov 5, 2016 at 11:14 pm

      I think it’s odd that the Mohammedan chaplain asserts that females experienced puberty earlier centuries ago; medically, it’s believed that puberty actually occurred much later in ancient and medieval times due to poor diet.

      A study I read several years ago posited that as late as the 1800s, puberty in females occurred in middle teen years, at times as late as 16-17 due to poor diet (especially among migrants and pioneers). Currently, puberty occurs around age 12, sometimes a bit younger on average.

      • gravenimage says

        Nov 5, 2016 at 11:17 pm

        Very true, GF.

  3. Jay Boo says

    Nov 5, 2016 at 10:37 am

    MSNBC’s Rachel Mad Cow would make him out to be a victim of Islamophobia and a hero for ‘defending Islam’s (pervert) prophet’.

  4. Stephanie says

    Nov 5, 2016 at 10:37 am

    … claim that women “sin” if they do NOT consent to sex with their husbands.

    wife raper, 2:223 ‘Your wives are as a tilth unto you;
    so approach your tilth when or how (e.g. anal sex she maybe doesn’t like) ye will’

    http://corpus.quran.com/translation.jsp?chapter=2&verse=223

  5. Stephanie says

    Nov 5, 2016 at 10:41 am

    … I said, “O Allah’s Messenger (ﷺ)! A [child] virgin feels shy.” He said, “Her consent is (expressed by) her silence.”

    http://sunnah.com/bukhari/67/72-73

  6. Stephanie says

    Nov 5, 2016 at 10:45 am

    … Muslim immigrants”

    allah prohibits integration,

    Why have Muslims a PROBLEM WITH INTEGRATION? Very simple, it is mentioned in their guidebook
    ➡️ http://quran.com/3/28 5:51, 4:144, 4:76, …

    https://twitter.com/schnellmann_org/status/793924431664087040

    • Stephanie says

      Nov 5, 2016 at 10:46 am

      http://quran.com/4/100-101 ‘… Indeed, the disbelievers are ever to you a clear enemy.’

  7. BLC says

    Nov 5, 2016 at 11:10 am

    “Multiculturalism” is just cultural Marxism, a philosophy that no culture is better than any other, so all cultures should be tolerated. It has opened the door to tolerate an intolerant culture that advocates that everyone else in any other culture should be killed off by that one culture.

    The authorities want to treat Islam like any other religion, but it isn’t like any other religion. No other religion that comes complete with a political ideology. They’re so afraid of being called racists or bigots or any other name the left may level at them, that they sacrifice the safety and well-being of their own citizens.

    For this, Islam is not to blame. The blame rests on the shoulders of the Western idiots called authorities.

    • Marty says

      Nov 5, 2016 at 1:17 pm

      Absolutely 100% correct.
      i could have written your comment word for word.
      In t UK we used to have “Iris jokes’ which were in bad taste
      but often funny.

      “An Irish former altar boy has become the latest suicide bomber to blow
      himself up as part of Islamic State’s furious defence of Mosul, its last major
      stronghold in Iraq.
      Khalid Kelly, born Terrence Edward in south Dublin in 1967, converted to
      Islam while serving a jail term in Saudi Arabia for illegally
      brewing homemade alcohol”

      An Irish joke would have suggested this person self ignited in a mosque,
      as it saved him a journey.

      • BLC says

        Nov 5, 2016 at 2:03 pm

        Terrence could have stayed in Ireland if he’d know what was good for him.

    • Thome says

      Nov 6, 2016 at 6:29 am

      You have said it very well. Islamic jihad teaches that it is just to lie to a kafir ( that’s all non Muslims) in order to further the cause of jihad. This is jihad, but as expected our police do not understand nor unfortunately do our politicians.

  8. David says

    Nov 5, 2016 at 11:21 am

    This is so very rediculous, it is beyond words!
    Why are these maggot like muslims being allowed to “Feast” on the dying flesh of our sacred free societies?
    There can only be two possible explanations.
    HIGH TREASON on the part of our “leadership”
    OR
    An imbecile like ignorance of what the actual situation is.
    Personal I choose to believe that it is the former.

    • BLC says

      Nov 5, 2016 at 12:37 pm

      I think it’s high treason.

      • Anne Smith says

        Nov 6, 2016 at 12:58 pm

        It is ignorance and arrogant stupidity on the part of our politicians, and tolerance and humanity on the part of the ordinary people, who do not understand that it is not reciprocated by Muslims. Non political ordinary working people are also afraid of being thought of as “racist” and have been cowed by political correctness into accepting anything and everything, even though many feel very uncomfortable.

    • Greyhound Fancier says

      Nov 5, 2016 at 11:22 pm

      It all traces back to the love of $$$$. The oil money of the Arabs/Iranians has been greasing palms of westerners for decades.

      I think all recipients of this graft should be strung up.

      Personally, I never understood the fascination with Mohammedanism on the part of the British, French, and various and sundry others. Who would want to live like they did in the Ottoman Empire, and they way they lived and live now in much of the rest of the Middle East? Backward, ignorant, oppressive…what is the draw?

      It’s hard to explain other than graft and bribery.

      • Anne Smith says

        Nov 6, 2016 at 12:59 pm

        Graft, bribery, and don’t forget readily available sex.

  9. Stan Lee says

    Nov 5, 2016 at 11:47 am

    Congratulations, Toronto Police Force….Your “Muslim chaplain” and his shariah marital observances will be retained on the force so the law officers can distinguish between right and wrong..
    I suppose that is called progress, but pregnant women can also determine sex of a baby prior to its birth, have you missed that opportunity to marry off a fetus to a marriage-minded Muslim male?
    Canada, you’ve done yourself proud with your “open-minded” Prime Minister. I hope and pray that the shariah infection doesn’t creep into the United States. We too, have our own problems with the Clinton corruption “family.” hovering over U.S. politics!

    • BLC says

      Nov 5, 2016 at 12:41 pm

      Hopefully Trump will take care of the Clintons if he wins on Tuesday.

    • Thome says

      Nov 6, 2016 at 6:33 am

      You are obviously unaware of Hillary’s Muslim connections. You are in for a huge surprise !

  10. Angemon says

    Nov 5, 2016 at 12:35 pm

    A Toronto police chaplain under fire for comments made about women’s “obedience” to their husbands will continue to serve with the force for the time being, CBC News has learned.

    I bet that, were similar statements made by a non-muslim chaplain, “feminist” groups wouldn’t stop until they had their head.

    • BLC says

      Nov 5, 2016 at 12:38 pm

      Especially in Canada.

  11. Crusades Were Right! says

    Nov 5, 2016 at 2:32 pm

    If Satanists don’t have a chaplain in the Toronto police department they now have good reason to feel aggrieved.

  12. Jihadophobic says

    Nov 5, 2016 at 10:56 pm

    ‘Chaplain’ refers to the cape worn by St Martin of Tours: it is an essentially Christian word. But the sorry state of our postmodern culture and Islam have stolen it in order to fog the division between the religions, and in the course, dilute Christianity. St Martin will be rolling in his grave.

    • Cretius says

      Nov 6, 2016 at 8:09 am

      Yes, the Toronto police service shows complete ignorance in this instance.

      • Anne Smith says

        Nov 6, 2016 at 1:00 pm

        Funny how the feminists are always so quiet on this stuff.

        • gravenimage says

          Nov 8, 2016 at 12:55 am

          So true.

  13. gravenimage says

    Nov 5, 2016 at 11:15 pm

    Toronto: Muslim police chaplain who taught that marriage with 9-year-old is acceptable to stay with force
    ………………………….

    And the suicidal madness continues apace.

    What will this Mohamemdan do if faced with wife beating, child rape, or “Honor Killing”? Don’t expect him to uphold civilized Canadian law…

  14. Mo says

    Nov 5, 2016 at 11:47 pm

    Where are the “feminists” shrieking about Muslim rape culture and The Patriarchy?

    (Yeah, right!)

  15. Cretius says

    Nov 6, 2016 at 8:06 am

    “phobia, n. an abnormal or morbid fear or aversion.” Concise Oxford Dictionary

    Quoting from Islamic religious texts, quoting Imams and reporting acts of violence committed by Muslims in the name of their religion is not an abnormal act. It is in fact educational about the realities of Islam and it’s impact on Western civilisation.

    ‘Islamophobia’ is the fabricated term used to try and shut down valid and factual comment on Islam and it’s effect on Western civilisation. The term is in fact an ‘intellectual fraud’ and therefore is a misleading lie.

    Islam is not a race so you cannot in fact be a racist when discussing Islam.

    “bigot, n. an obstinate and intolerant believer in a religion, political theory etc”, COD (Islam on both counts!)

    So much for those using false definitions to suppress free speech and fair commentary.

    Given the inability and refusal of Islam to accommodate and assimilate into Western culture, the police would be better off to have no Muslim at all as a chaplin. The Mosque and Muslim services provide for their exclusive community.

  16. UNCLE VLADDI says

    Nov 6, 2016 at 8:39 pm

    Since all religions are FRAUDS – people putting forth unprovable opinions AS FACTS, aka LIES – no police force should accept, much less openly endorse or propagate such criminal frauds on the public taxpayers’ dimes!

    THESE COPS ARE COMMITTING PUBLIC FRAUD!

    In endorsing islam’s excuse for its global crimes, they are also complicit in shielding it from prosecution!

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