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UK MPs report claims many political Islam movements share British values

Nov 7, 2016 6:06 am By Robert Spencer

It all depends on what one thinks “British values” are. If they include the denial of the freedom of speech, the institutionalized subjugation of women and non-Muslims, and punishments such as stoning and amputation, then yes, many “political Islam” movements share British values. But if British values have anything to do with the values of a free society, then this report is howlingly false.

There has never been a state constituted according to the principles of “political Islam” that wasn’t authoritarian, Islamic supremacist, oppressive, misogynistic, and intolerant. Kemalist Turkey, you say? Kemalist Turkey was based upon a rejection of “political Islam,” not some benign version of it.

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“Many ‘political Islam’ movements share our values, say MPs,” by Tom Peck, Independent, November 6, 2016:

The government should narrow its definition of ‘political Islam’ and recognise that many Islamic political movements share the same values as Britain, according to a report by an influential committee of MPs.

The report criticises th [sic] Foreign Office for using the term to describe both groups that embrace “democratic principles and liberal values” and others that instead hold “intolerant, extremist views.”

It was also heavily critical of the FCO’s recent report into Egypt’s Muslim Brotherhood, which was conducted by Sir John Jenkins, while serving as British Ambassador to Saudi Arabia, which gave the impression that it could have been influenced by a foreign state.

Chairman of the Foreign Affairs Committee, Crispin Blunt, said: “We absolutely agree with the FCO on the need for a nuanced approach to the broad phenomenon of ‘political Islam’. We only regret that this approach does not appear to have been applied to the Muslim Brotherhood Review, which failed to mention some of what we saw as the most elementary factors that determine the group’s current behaviour.”…

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  1. ECAW says

    Nov 7, 2016 at 6:45 am

    That’s what we need, more nuance…the magic substance that turns a tiger into a vegetarian.

    • Pumbar says

      Nov 7, 2016 at 11:22 pm

      It’s also very similar to “nonce’, a trait shared in common with our eltes and islam.

  2. Baucent says

    Nov 7, 2016 at 6:54 am

    Give me one example of an “Islamic Political Movement” that “embrace democratic principles and liberal values.”

    • Mirren10 says

      Nov 7, 2016 at 8:33 am

      Hear, hear ! Some one should ask them to give such an example.

      • thelastvirgingoat says

        Nov 7, 2016 at 2:39 pm

        Islam is very democratic because all Muslim’s favor Islamic law. Therefore it is the people’s will to institute Sharia law. And if you don’t agree off with your head!

  3. JOHN SPIELMAN says

    Nov 7, 2016 at 6:57 am

    if I were gay or a woman, or Jew, Christian, hindu, Buddhist atheist or any living thing non muslim( esp a goat) I would be extremely worried!

    • Kay says

      Nov 7, 2016 at 10:01 am

      I am. It’s preposterous that any western country would even consider allowing an additional or alternate law in its land.

  4. Richard James says

    Nov 7, 2016 at 7:24 am

    ‘There has never been a state constituted according to the principles of ̶“̶p̶o̶l̶i̶t̶i̶c̶a̶l̶ ̶I̶s̶l̶a̶m̶”̶ Islam that wasn’t authoritarian, Islamic supremacist, oppressive, misogynistic, and intolerant.’

    There you are, Robert, I fixed it for you. Now you only need to add “jihadi”, “barbaric” and “murderous” to the list.

  5. David says

    Nov 7, 2016 at 7:59 am

    The founder of their “Death Cult” appears to have been Satan himself. How (please excuse the pun.) How in the hell can that have anything to do with Human Values? Let alone British Values?
    That MP needs to stop abusing the pharmaceuticals! He has lost all grip on reality.
    If he just tried to take a nighttime strool through certain London neighborhoods, while sipping a beer, they would “Smartin him up!” Real quick!
    I don’t know of a single visitor to London that hasn’t come home and told us how bad “the muslum problem” has gotten. Just try to take a photo of the mosque! The come out in droves! And run you off with baseball bats!
    No! Those Donkey copulating savages have nothing to do with “British Values” !

  6. old white guy says

    Nov 7, 2016 at 8:24 am

    British values used to be Judaeo Christian. British values no longer exist. The country and it’s people are stupid and morally bankrupt just like Americans. Refusing to see where they are and where they are headed is leading to disaster. If the people think islam is a good thing and are unwilling to bring it to heel then both countries will cease to exist as they have been known.

    • gravenimage says

      Nov 7, 2016 at 11:01 pm

      Civilized British and American values *do* still exist, old white guy–just because too many people fail to recognize the threat does not mean this isn’t so.

      Our job is to educate as many people as possible about the Jihad threat–not to claim that living under Shari’ah is not different from living in under civilized British and American law.

  7. jayell says

    Nov 7, 2016 at 8:50 am

    The only time that I’ve known a group or organisation to successfully dispel the sort of appalling reputation earned by muslims in the UK has been in the case of a certain car manufacturer from (shall we say) somewhere in eastern Europe, when the company in question was taken over by a well-known German car giant and effectively more or less assumed the identity of the new parent company with just the badge as a sign of where the car actually came from. Now, if our British muslim ‘friends’ are going to become virtually indistiguishable from the genuine UK article (as I believe they’re trying to con us here), are they similarly going to take traditional British standards on board and ditch their own? So that if you were to look under the proverbial bonnet (hood), you would only see ‘British parts’ there (so to speak)? Or is this all just another spurious advertising campaign to try and sell the lethal garbage that’s dumped itself in our market?

  8. duh swami says

    Nov 7, 2016 at 8:56 am

    Well, I got a movement for Allah but it’s not particular political…

  9. Lynne says

    Nov 7, 2016 at 9:21 am

    How can one trust anyone who covers his/her face?

  10. Paul Clark says

    Nov 7, 2016 at 9:50 am

    Further proof that most politicians are liars.

  11. Paul Clark says

    Nov 7, 2016 at 9:57 am

    I wonder if any politician has ever read the ten commandments or even cares about the consequences: Thou shall not bear false witness (lie.) We know LBJ, Nixon, Kennedys, Bushes, Obama and Clintons are all liars. God help us. The pagan, heathens run our country.

  12. Angemon says

    Nov 7, 2016 at 10:33 am

    The government should narrow its definition of ‘political Islam’ and recognise that many Islamic political movements share the same values as Britain, according to a report by an influential committee of MPs.

    They’re either mad or traitors.

  13. Michael Warden says

    Nov 7, 2016 at 11:13 am

    http://100percentfedup.com/hillary-on-disabled-children-during-easter-egg-hunt-when-are-they-going-to-get-those-fg-ree-tards-out-of-here/

  14. BLC says

    Nov 7, 2016 at 11:18 am

    All you have to do is to look at that picture. It’s a bunch of adults with their heads all wrapped up in cloth, carrying signs. What could be less free than that? These people desperately need to step into the 21st century.

    Is the West really going to let a bunch of bedouins know-nothings take over?

    • David says

      Nov 7, 2016 at 12:29 pm

      If there is MONEY in it, for the politicians, YOU BET!
      To quote a pundit: “Money is the mother’s milk of politics”
      And the massive Saudi “teat of plenty” spews nothing but petro-dollars!
      Suck baby! Suck!

      • BLC says

        Nov 7, 2016 at 3:07 pm

        The only reason the Saudis and the rest have money is because they have oil on their land. It’s not their great accomplishments, their vast intellect, their whatever. If the rest of the world stops buying oil from them, they can all go back to riding camels in the desert.

        • billybob says

          Nov 7, 2016 at 5:43 pm

          We should take their oil from them. Seriously. They are waging war against us – promoting their insidious Wahabism with their petrodollars. Their oil fields would be the legitimate spoils of war

        • gravenimage says

          Nov 7, 2016 at 11:04 pm

          Unearned oil wealth.

  15. Cretius says

    Nov 7, 2016 at 12:38 pm

    Islam is a political ideology that uses its claim of being a religion to attempt to set up a parallel system of Islamic laws and courts, called Sharia, in every country that it enters. This is the action of a political ideology, not a religion. Islam’s goal is, and always has been, the establishment of Islamic totalitarianism worldwide.

    The bottom line is that Islam does not allow accommodation or assimilation with non-Muslim cultures and religions. Muslims are duty bound to spread Islam. One needs to study the bloody and aggressive 1,400 year history of Islam and heed the words of their imams, Koran, Sira and Hadith. Western leaders are foolhardy in not recognising the current Muslim invasion of the West and in not confronting it before it results in widespread bloodshed. History has taught us that aggressive Islam can only be rolled back by military action. Muslims are taught that ALL non-Muslim property including your person, is war booty to be claimed by Muslims. This is why there is a rape culture now in Europe and why Muslims are prominent in Western crime figures.

  16. BlueScreenOfDeath says

    Nov 7, 2016 at 7:23 pm

    The only political movement I can see Islamists sharing is Corbyn and his Momentum thugs’ rabid antisemitism.

  17. gravenimage says

    Nov 7, 2016 at 10:51 pm

    UK MPs report claims many political Islam movements share British values
    ………………………

    What “British values” might those be? FGM? “Honor Killing”? Child marriage? The imposition of Shari’ah law?

  18. Esmon Dinucci says

    Nov 8, 2016 at 5:36 am

    If I were to set up an e-petition in favour of making the age of consent in the UK compliant with sharia, I would probably be misunderstood and get lots of complaints. But this is what these useful idiots are doing without really thinking it through. Should the UK legal system undo equality legislation, anti hate crime legislation and human right legislation: of course not. There is no need for discussion, it is not possible to make sufficient compromise to reach a consensus. Sharia in absolutely anathema to a civilised rule of law base legal system based on accepting all human beings as having equal value.

  19. Annshoe says

    Nov 8, 2016 at 7:33 am

    I talked with someone in England last week and asked her about the Muslim situation. She told me that she lives out in the country away from the cities where the problem of Muslims exists. Then she told me it isn’t as bad as the media portrays it.
    I was blown away by her lack of information and knowledge of the situation!

  20. common sense says

    Nov 8, 2016 at 1:36 pm

    Since Islam has no intention of reforming there are no “shared movements”, it is not possible for shariah law to merge with western values, there is always conflict.
    The political elite obviously prefer the banishment of forethought among the citizens of the UK that would blindly follow along.
    I will exercise my 1a & 2a, pray for a better outcome for the ignorant and pass the ammunition both figurative and literal.

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