“One of the things they need to hear from me is that the Virginia Republican party values religious liberty and we stand with them, and they’re part of this community too.”
This is just more muddying of the waters. Religious liberty is not at issue in any way. Trump has not called for anything that would restrict religious liberty. Religious liberty is not a license to commit treason or sedition. It is not an all-purpose justification for subversion. These Virginia Republicans are not only disloyal to the leader of their party, but severely muddled thinkers.
“Virginia Republicans Visit Mosque to Address Concerns,” News4, November 11, 2016 (thanks to Lookmann):
As Muslims worry about how the election of Donald Trump will affect them, Republican leaders visited a mosque on Friday in Sterling, Virginia.
The All Dulles Area Muslim Society, aka The Adams Center, invited Virginia state Republicans to join their afternoon prayer services.
“We wanted to really address the anxiety that we know the Muslim community in our area has,” newly reelected Rep. Barbara Comstock said.
John Whitbeck, chairman of the Republican Party of Virginia, said he wanted to share a message of freedom.
“One of the things they need to hear from me is that the Virginia Republican party values religious liberty and we stand with them, and they’re part of this community too,” he said.
Many attendees of the mosque, which is one of the largest in the D.C. region, said they worry that Trump will ban Muslims from entering the country.
During the campaign, Trump said that if elected he would enact a “total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country’s representatives can figure out what the hell is going on.”
After facing backlash, he repackaged the proposal to describe a suspension of immigration “from terror-prone regions where vetting cannot safely occur.”
Comstock and Whitbeck said they believed that Trump had changed his position on a Muslim ban.
“I think he himself has changed that,” Comstock said. “What I am saying and what I have said is that that is not constitutional and it’s really un-American.”
Whitbeck also rejected any ban on Muslims entering the country.
“The Virginia Republican Party is the party of religious liberty. We don’t support banning Muslims in the United States of America,” he said.
Some attendees of the mosque said they still were nervous that Trump would exclude Muslims.
“I’m still anxious. I’m eager to see what Mr. Trump is going to do next,” Northern Virginia resident Abhi Kunjumol said.
Northern Virginia resident Jafar Imam said he was particularly concerned about whether Trump would keep out Syrians, “those who are suffering enormously.”
“He will not allow a single Syrian refugee coming to United States,” Imam said….

john spielman says
what useless dhimmihood, did said politicians ever visit Christian churches during the Antichrist reign of the Obamanation to reassure us that we would not be persecuted?
mortimer says
The religion and rites of Islam may be practiced while totally IGNORING the supremacist political ideology contained within Islamic prayers.
If Muslims are able to IGNORE the supremacist references in their prayers, they pose no threat, but if Muslims PAY ATTENTION to all the supremacist references in their prayers and scriptures, they will become ‘radicalized’ and wish to ACT OUT the clear commands of Allah to subjugate the earth under TOTALITARIAN ISLAMIC RULE.
Many Muslims know all about the supremacism and try their best to ignore it.
Jack Diamond says
They don’t ignore it when they have the “upper hand.” Our job is to deny them any upper hand, ever.
EYESOPEN says
Absolutely.
Sushi Roll says
Unfortunately, Muslims only need to get along practicing ‘Taqiyya’ until they reach the stage where they can DOMINATE. With an astounding birthrate among Muslims and near ZERO among the native population, it will only take a few generations. Once they achieve a majority, we will see that Islam, is NOT a RELIGION, it is a theocracy based on Sharia Law. We need to educate our legislators! We can NOT give up our freedom or we will NEVER get it back –
Jay Boo says
When (The Slave of Satan) Muhammad returns, he will tear up all the prayer mats and Islamic man-dresses and abolish the Jizya after all the Muslims have been killed.
The funny thing:
All those Hypocritical Muslims and dhimmis would call the above sentence offensive.
old white guy says
muslims cannot ignore any of dictates of the koran, not one.
Dexter L. Wilson says
Including lying to the unbeliever.
particolor says
You got it in a Nut Shell there !!
Jacinte says
I know John, they get it all wrong. It’s like here in Canada whenever there is a muslim terrorist attack, our canadian Prime Minister go to mosques to reassure them. What a nut!
The muslims who are worried in the States are obviously guilty of some acts. Anyone with a clean conscience should be at peace with themselves.
Actually, the muslims should be worried because we have not seen any buddhist terrorist attacks or catholic terrorist attacks so let’s not ignore the obvious. They are dangerous even to their own.
Lynne says
Of all of our PM’s, Trudeau is the stupidest and because of it is endangering all Canadians. We will lose our free speech and eventually our democracy. It has already started by declaring Islamaphobia a crime.
Emmanuel says
Islamic’s have every right to practice their religion in this country. However, the issue exists that the religion that is promulgated in each mosque throughout the nation maybe completely different based on the philosophy of the Imam. What is dangerous to Americans and to our culture, is when hate speech, countercultural messages, and murderous ideologies are disseminated. My entire family were immigrants from Greece, they practice their religion of orthodox Christianity without any issues. They also were very proud to become Americans and to adopt the American culture, they didn’t come here seeking to change it. That said, they were also able to keep their heritage alive and identify themselves as Greek-Americans, and enjoy their cultural nuances with the rest of America in joy peace and happiness.
Kay says
This is wonderful and similar to the story of most immigrants.
The conflating of the issues of terrorism and sedition with immigration as a whole has been one of the ways that “progressives” have sought to discredit loyal American citizens.
Emmanuel says
Agreed, liberals have mitigated all things Islamic. I predicted what is happening currently in France seven years ago. That country will be overtaken like many other European countries that have been overrun. Armenian is a perfect example, at one point in history they were 98% predominantly Christian. Islam’s philosophy is strength in numbers and always has been, they impose their will and it seems as though some administrations in our country always favor and support their cause based on religious freedom. The Obama administration has been one of the worst. Much of it comes from overall lack of understanding of what Islam is and the tenants of that faith, it was truly founded by the sword, intrinsically evil.
PRCS says
“Islamic’s have every right to practice their religion in this country.”
No, they do NOT. No one does–where those “practices” conflict with or violate relevant U.S. laws.
As it relates to Muslims (rather than Islamic’s/Islamics) there is not “right” to command the rest of us to revert, live as dhimmis while paying them a special tax, or face violence from them.
And, to be clear, most of Qur’an’s references to we “filthy unbelievers” IS hate speech.
Emmanuel says
With all due respect, did you read the entire post. I’m in complete agreement with you.
Jay Boo says
True, PRCS
Islam does not promote religious liberty.
Never has.
Salome says
And there’s the rub, Jay Boo. Any country that has a right of freedom of religious belief and practice must inevitably find itself at odds with a religion one of whose core doctrines is to deny others freedom of belief and practice, and whose practices include acts that are crimes. Perhaps we need to redefine ‘religion’ so that it does not include an ideology that seeks to impose a comprehensive law on everyone.
karl anglin says
The US immigration law forbids the entry of any one who believes in
or practices polygamy. This is from 1891.
gravenimage says
Muslims have the right to fast and pray and practice the other non-violent aspects of their faith–they do *not* have the right to impose Shari’ah and Jizya, take sex slaves, and mass slaughter unbelievers.
The problem is that all of the above are key parts of their creed.
PRCS says
Which is why–though to date not done–specific questioning of “our” Muslims must occur.
Two sample questions:
Qur’an (5:33) commands the amputation of a human being’s hand–and a foot–on opposite sides, for waging warfare against Allah and his messenger. Is that morally acceptable to you–anywhere? If it’s not, is Allah, then, wrong?
Qur’an (4:3) permits a Muslim man to marry up to 4 wives, but man made U.S. law limits marriage to one person at any given time. What do you think about that?
And, of course, they have every right to curse the rest of us as they recite the fatiha (17 times a day for those who pray 5 times a day).
What a great “religion”, eh.
CrossWare says
Your definition is wrong, Islam is not a religion, but a violent supremacist political ideology cult masquerading as a religion. It use religious doctrines and rituals to indoctrinate it’s followers. Islam is bent on world domination, replacing any political organization with Shariah law. It closest ideological relatives are Nazism and Communism.
Emmanuel says
Yes, it is a geo-political entity, I realize that.
annmarie says
Europeans call Islam “Communism with a God”.
Creole Gumbo says
Yes. Thanks for saying that CrossWare. Islam is no more a religion than the Manson Family is a religion. In fact, the teachings are similar.
A few years ago the Italian government declared that Islam is not a religion and we need to do the same thing here. When tax advantages, which are legal issues, are given to “religions” then it becomes necessary to define “religion.”
Ian says
Unfortunately they push immigration on us by calling it “multiculturalism”. The problem is, is they’re bringing in immigrants who’s culture is the complete antithesis of “multi”.
gravenimage says
And Greece herself is now being threatened by the influx of ravening Muslims, Emmanuel.
Emmanuel says
Yes, and Greece is in no position to be able to defend itself. Stemming from over 50 years of Liberal leadership, they’ve become a socialist state. I could tell you horrific stories about how my ancestors got here to the US. Losing everything including lives to escape Ottoman rule, but I certainly don’t want to make this medium about personal issues. I know Robert Spencer himself can speak to this.
gravenimage says
Yes–Robert Spencer’s grandparents fled Muslim persecution and threat in Turkey.
Rev g says
I value religious freedom, which is one of the reasons I oppose islam. One reason of many
gravenimage says
True, Rev g.
mortimer says
ISLAM IS A POLITICAL IDEOLOGY OF SUPREMACISM AND MISOGYNY. It is inseparable from the religion of Islam…the two are united.
Moreover, Islam is Arabian, Arabian scriptures in Arabic, Arabian culture, Arabian desert jurisprudence, Arabian clothing, Arabian language. Everyone in the world must become Arabian.
Mo says
You are naive to think that ii all depends on the Imam. Islam’s fundamental tenets require eventual world domination and death to any who do not convert. The term Islam needs no modifiers. It is what it is.
David says
What a bunch of foolish imbeciles!
I hope none of these TRAITORS ever gets re-elected. Not even Dog Catcher!
And your right, did any of these imbeciles visit a Church to reassure Christians?
Not likely.
THROW THE BUMS OUT!
Shmooviyet says
Bravo!
Why is the “islamic community” so in need of constant coddling and reassurance from pols or media?? SICK of the neverending “wattabout us?” –and the scurrying responses to please this ONE group.
PRCS says
They’re not.
But they know that foolish people THINK they do, and are quite willing to exploit that.
Laura says
Seems they are as bad as the priceless little snowflakes protesting the Trump win. We must coddle them, give them coloring books and puppies to soothe their fragile egos. Ugh.
Bradthefuzz says
What are these pseudo-republicans thinking? Rule number one…never negotiate with anyone that welcomes the idea of sharia law!!! Get your Bible out and read it well…Jesus is Lord.
sencit says
“Jesus is Lord”. Indeed!
EYESOPEN says
Amen!
John Stefan says
Yes, Jesus is Lord! and, as He rose from the dead so shall we, but meanwhile, while we wait for that blessed day of our resurrection, we spread the truth: the truth of the saving Gospel message, even to a Muslim, if he is willing to listen, and with God’s help we will spread the truth that everything about Islam is false. Really, it’s of the devil.
andra says
They never learn.
Prebangian says
It seems that the Islamic people are lobbing to flood the U.S. with more Islamic people.
Michael Laudahn says
With such friends, who needs enemies?
Jay Boo says
At least the politicians did not appear have gone all out with a carpet kissing finale like Trudeau.
After the politicians left, the congregation probably received another (reminder) sermon not to talk to the FBI.
PRCS says
And the reminder that he is–until formally reverting–a “filthy unbeliever”.
Dexter L. Wilson says
Ultimately I hope you are hearing me. MAKE THESE IN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY READ THE KORAN ESPECIALLY THE PARTS ABOUT PUNISHMENT OF THE UNBELIEVER, THE EXPECTATION OF LYING TO THE UNBELIEVER, THE TAXING OF UNBELIEVERS, THE ENSLAVEMENT OF UNBELIEVERS, THE CONDITION OF SECOND CLASS CITIZENSHIP FOR THE UNBELIEVER (which with Democrats with Christians already), and the punishment of death to those who leave Islam. Compare the New Testament and the law of love versus the Laws of Islam and Sharia. If you understand that if these people practice their faith, it is not consistent with our Democracy. And they will not assimilate with our form of government and have already tried to institute Sharia in many areas of the US.
Kay says
Agreed. Anyone in position of power (even all the way down to a school committee) should be required to read the Koran before leading any type of discussion and even more so before implementing any kind of policy.
IMHO says
How can we expect hose traitors to read such an onerous book when they won’t even read the bills they pass. Bunch of illiterates.
Michael Laudahn says
Be realistic: No-one will read this doorstopper voluntarily. It makes much more sense to spread websites like this one, whenever there is a good chance. A good chance is an article about someone – send him and his entourage a link, with a few copies to adversaries. Use email or Twitter.
If there are better ideas, let me know. Fx, can a similar thing be done with Facebook? I’m not really familiar with that one.
gravenimage says
Oh, I read the Qur’an–I’ve done so several times at this point.
But it was *not* pleasant, and I never would have read it if not for 9/11 and the subsequent wave of Jihad savagery.
Kepha says
I would never have re-read the Qur’an had it not been for 9/11.
gravenimage says
I love seeking after knowledge, Kepha, but I believe many of us have learned more than we ever cared to know about the foul creed of Islam. But it’s what we have to do.
don vito says
Reading the koran would be important for these pols, but does anyone honestly think they would tell the truth of what has been read? They would face a storm of criticism, I think most likely out come of their reading would be more of the same voodoo thinking and speaking, or saying nothing.
Allan says
The Muslim should be encouraged to look within herself and to see that she is ignorant, delusional, and perverse.
eagle says
Also, some should consider why it is necessary to have a call to prayer over loud speakers five times a day in Atlanta Georgia, why is it OK to suppress the peace and quiet with this offensive noise? Why is it the non-believers have to listen to this trash. Why is it the Muslims can apply for welfare and many other taxpayers benefits with more than two wives with children. Why is it, the taxpayers of this country have to foot their bill? Cut off all this welfare and see if they stick around. Why is it, the Muslims cannot understand this is a Judeo-Christian country and the American people want the 10 commandments as their core belief and not Shariah Law and the Koran. Pledging allegiance to this country and swearing to uphold the constitution should be done with the bible not the Koran.The Koran teaches hate for the American people and the constitution and all non-believers. How stupid people are to allow Muslims in office to pledge allegiance to America on the Koran.
PRCS says
“He will not allow a single Syrian refugee coming to United States,” Imam said….”
Of course he’s not referring to the “filthy unbelievers” (read non-Muslims) whom his fellow Muslims target for abuse, and worse–as Muhammad and his sock puppet, Big Al, have commanded them to.
Afrostreewise says
“He will not allow a single Syrian refugee coming to United States,” Imam said….” Even though I live in far off land called Africa, exactly what is wrong with not allowing a single Muslim refugee? In fact there is everything wrong with muslims bypassing very near muslim lands in which some are not accepting even a single refugee to go and live in far off Kuffr lands. Oh, and the sense of entitlement is not only absurd, its very annoying.
Kay says
Well put, Afrostreewise.
PRCS says
Correct.
And for many, that “very near Muslim land” is Turkey.
Anne Smith says
About time all these Muslim refugees went to sparsely populated Arabian countries living under Sharia law. Much more familiar for them and better for us.
I hope Mr Trump stops them coming to American and tells them to go to Saudi and Qatar. Lots of room for them and their hijabs and burkas will fit in very well.
Westman says
Why do these politicians spout their personal attitudes as a substitute for actual law? And to think we call them “lawmakers”!
The POTUS has full authority to stop emigration without the approval of any agency, it is constitutional, has precedence, and not even the Supreme Court can reverse it.
And as for un-American, a purely subjective term; unlike their “unconstitutional” nonsense, that definition depends on who is asked. Allowing your country to be ruined by sedition could be termed un-American by many while being embraced by those who allow it.
Shmooviyet says
@Westman, you hit it BAM on the head.
“Politicians spouting their personal opinions as a substitute for actual law.”
Evelyn Warren says
I think it would be more constructive to make visits to churches and synagogues to let Christians and Jews know what they are going to do about Radical Islamic Terrorists.
Allan says
The Stoopid Party is going to have a very difficult time during the next two years. The rabid totalitarians of the left are energized and shrieking “racists” and “Fascists” more in unison than any time since the 1960’s. Already they busy theirselves with thoughts and plans of insurrection and revolution. Meanwhile, the Stoopid Party’s own supporters will demand an account of GOP support in the Senate for the Ted Kennedy Electioneering and Race War Act of 1965. Wikipedia reports that Democratic opposition exceeded that of the Stoopid Party.
Kepha says
I’m not going to throw mud at all immigrants. For one thing, an awful lot of them played by the rules to get here; and if our native population won’t reproduce above replacement levels, we may well need more immigrants of the right kind (admittedly, skilled and ready to adapt to American ways). My wife follows a number of Chinese-language social media, and notes that a lot of Americans of Chinese origins (taken to include Taiwan, Singapore, and the Nan Yang as well as the Mainland) actually voted for Trump. I’m also old enough to remember when limiting immigration was briefly a Democrat baby–it happened when a lot of first generation Asian-Americans voted for Reagan, seeing him as being tougher on Communism when the ink on their naturalization certificates was barely dry. Further, I doubt that Trump could have carried Florida by even a small margin if he didn’t get at least some of the Latin vote (and not just Cuban-Americans).
I am also telling a lot of my screaming, Left-Democratic extended clan that in the ten years I lived in the right-wing lower Ohio Valley (KKK-country during the 1920’s) during the Bush II years, extremely conservative white people were kindly and accepting enough of my not-all-white family. In the state college where I worked, I ran into a French student of North African descent whose experience in the same area led him to conclude that American race relations were very relaxed and ought to be imitated back home. I also know that virtually all of the friends we had back then were Trumpsters, at least after he won the GOP primaries.
Talking to my immigrant students (I teach in an ESOL program), I’ve been explaining a few things about how ugly Clinton’s history, views, and performance are. Back in the 2008 cycle, I explained my opposition to abortion as a reason I was a Republican. One West African boy (Muslim, BTW), was shocked that “a Muslim like Obama” could support such a thing. I explained how a lot of people in the USA are irreligious, or shift from ancestral religions, and that I didn’t think the O cared a fig for either traditional Islam or traditional Christianity. In any case, this same kid told me he’d vote Republican when he became a citizen. This year, I’ve explained that nobody with legal status will have a thing to worry about under a Trump administration, because even if Trump was against legal immigrants (which he clearly isn’t), law is supreme over even a powerful president. I further noted that under Obama, there have been more deportations of undocumented aliens than under any other administration in my lifetime. It’s just that the media did not choose to report it.
While we’re clearly the minority party where I live, I’ve even noticed that in my school’s non-ESOL population, there are children of African immigrants whose families lean GOP, often because they are small business owners and devoutly Christian.
To get America back on track, it’s necessary to notice that the Democrats by no means have a stranglehold on the beneficiaries of the 1965 immigration act. Knowledge of what the Democratic Party stands for (especially its embrace of the LGBT agenda, its encouraging an assault on traditional religious values, and other things) can push a lot of non-white America rightwards. This is a trend that has to be welcomed.
Far from me to knock white people. I am [mostly] white myself, and know our history too well, and that it was Christian white people who bequeathed to this country much of what is best about it–including the sectarian peace that Anglicans, Presbyterians, and Congregationalists nurtured in the wake of the Great Awakening of the 1750’s. But I firmly believe that a heritage of racism (of the color-based kind) is one thing we truly need to acknowledge, and make it clear we plan to leave in the past, where it belongs.
Kay says
Thanks for this post, Kepha.
And I was not aware of the high number of deportations under O.
gravenimage says
Most immigrants are fine, and an asset to our nation–Mohammedans, not so much.
Angemon says
Great post, Kepha.
PRCS says
My wife, an Asian (no, not a Muslim per that idiotic Brit euphemism), is a Naturalized U.S. Citizen. An immigrant who always will be an immigrant.
I know she came here legally, as I sponsored her.
One would likely not know, from “journalists” and politicians, that migrating here–without our permission–“for the jobs”, and “doing it the right way” are not one and the same thing.
underbed cat says
It is a fascinating, but a dangerous situation when any group of politicians enter the mosque or learning center with the trustful heart that it is “peaceful” religion and that if they had at least read the Koran or the The Reliance of the Traveler they may be prepped for the deception that will follow. So now we see the aftermath of clueless trust and how it translated into bad policy and blindness of a subversive doctrine and a enemy that hides among us always preparing. Just as if you have to learn medical terminology you have to know islamic terminology/ doctrine and evidence, since words have one meaning to jihadi to fight for sharia and another for the infidel.
Jack Diamond says
Knowledge is only the solution when ignorance is the problem. Some people are beyond reaching on this matter and a lot of them are Republicans, it’s not just your hopeless and willfully blind Democrat relatives you can’t talk any sense into. Nor should corruption by money be discounted as a motive.
Why aren’t those Republicans visiting the Dar Al-Hijrah mosque, which is also in Virginia, right there in the D.C.area? You know, where Anwar al-Awlaki was an Imam, where 9/11 hijackers attended (and Nidal Hasan); where Ahmed Omar Abu Ali, who worshiped and taught Islamic studies at Dar Al-Hijrah, was charged by U.S. prosecutors with plotting with members of al-Qaeda to assassinate President George W. Bush; where Abelhaleem Hasan Abdelraziq Ashqar, a member of the mosque’s Executive Committee, was convicted in November 2007 of contempt and obstruction of justice for refusal to testify before a grand jury with regard to Hamas, and sentenced to 135 months in prison…
Why aren’t those Republicans visiting such a notable and famous and highly-regarded (by Muslims) mosque in Virginia, and proclaiming solidarity with them and soothing their worries about Islamopohbia? Since they have never seen any reason to SHUT IT DOWN, that is.
gravenimage says
Jack Diamond wrote:
Why aren’t those Republicans visiting the Dar Al-Hijrah mosque, which is also in Virginia, right there in the D.C.area? You know, where Anwar al-Awlaki was an Imam…
……………………………
Actually, Jack, the All Dulles Area Muslim Society (Adams Center) is–surprise, surprise–not as “moderate” as they would have us believe, either:
Imam Magid of ADAMS vs the FBI: Cleric awarded for ‘helping FBI fight terror’ refutes TIME claim that he “regularly tips off the FBI”
http://www.militantislammonitor.org/article/id/1291
Jack Diamond says
“The chairman of ADAMS is Ahmad Totonji, an Iraqi-born citizen of the kingdom of Saudi Arabia and a key target of Operation Green Quest. Totonji was also named as a defendant in a $1 trillion lawsuit filed by more than 600 relatives of people who died in the 9/11 attacks. He acted as a co-founder and officer of the Saudi-founded/Saudi-funded (and now defunct) SAAR Trust. Additionally, he served as Vice President of the Safa Group and the International Institute for Islamic Thought (IIIT).
Officials have linked the non-profit IIIT to Osama bin Laden and al-Qaeda. Matthew Levitt of the Washington Institute for Near East Policy, testified before Congress in August of 2002 that IIIT employee Tarik Hamdi had personally provided batteries for Osama bin Laden’s satellite phone, keeping the wandering terrorist mastermind connected to his scattered ground troops. According to an Operation Green Quest affidavit, IIIT had also sponsored Basheer Nafi, “an active directing member of (Palestinian Islamic Jihad) front organizations.” Nafi, who acknowledges a chummy relationship with Sami al-Arian, lectures at London’s Muslim College. For this reason, Operation Green Quest raided the homes of Abdul Hamid Abu-Sulayman, former IIIT president; Jamal Barzinji, Director of IIIT; and Hisham Al-Talib, Director IIIT.”
Yep. Another one to disinfect from the United States of America. A new “Department of Exterminator” Mr. President?
gravenimage says
It’s so hard to find “moderate” Mosques–but what can we expect, since Islam is not a “moderate” religion?
PRCS says
A “moderate” mosque would only recite/teach an abridged version of Qur’an.
At the cleric’s peril.
Allan says
The Democrats showed during this cycle that they are out of touch with reality. You might think that the epic loss up and down the ballot would encourage some humility and introspection among them BEFORE making any rash and foolish decisions about their leadership. But you would be wrong.
So, now it appears now that the bipartisan coalition is comprised of The Stupid Party and The Evil & Stupid Party.
Kepha says
Good old Elison–he ditches the religion of the abolitionist movement for the religion that had to stop slave raiding at the point of colonialists’ bayonets and maxim guns.
gravenimage says
Yes-absolute madness. I hope the Dems show a modicum of sanity and don’t go for this stealth Jihadist.
don vito says
It would only be a modicum, for if dhimmicrats did turn toward sanity, they would be admitting their insanity previously. I look for the dhimmis to double down and go whole hog.
PRCS says
From the article (and similar) the notion of a “progressive” Muslim is unequivocally oxymoronic.
I do hope he runs, though, as it will be an opportunity for actual journalists to ask some embarrassing questions about Islam and the degree to which he believes Big Al’s every word applies here.
Right off the bat, what–as a Muslim–does he really think about “filthy unbelievers”?
PRCS says
I can’t say for sure whether these “representatives” are clueless about Islam–and what Muslims actually think of them–or are just pandering, here’s what was said about them, there (sorry RS, chopped this up a bit):
The Fatiha (Opening) is the first chapter) of Qur’an, and most common prayer of Islam. Its last two verses are of most concern to non-Muslims–asking of Allah:
Guide us to the straight path, the path of those upon whom You have bestowed favor, not of those who have evoked [Your] anger or of those who are astray.
The traditional Islamic understanding of this is that the “straight path” is Islam, while the path “of those who have evoked Allah’s anger” are the Jews, and those who have gone “astray” are the Christians.
Laffin’ and spittin’ in their faces.
underbed cat says
So does the whole democratic party understand exactly how subversives misinformation campaigns can appear harmless, if you don’t know who the players really are…..to start the caliphate push.
PRCS says
These politicians were Republicans.
gravenimage says
Grimly true, PRCS.
Jay Boo says
Banning Syrian Muslims ?
Any day now …
We can expect a massive Million Muslim march on the Saudi Embassy to protest the banning all Syrian Muslim migrants from receiving asylum inside Saudi Arabia.
PRCS says
Recognizing the humor of your post, as the best Welfare/Social Services are to be found in Western nations, there wouldn’t be much Muslim participation were such an event ever to occur.
Vlad says
:-), we live in hope :-). It that were to occur, it would NOT be reported on any news outlet.
ploome says
Effing idiots
Paul Clark says
The GOP of Virginia did not just visit a mosque. They patronized a satanic religion in prayer session in hope of gathering some votes down the road. Remember this is the same bunch that betrayed the American conservative who had voted them into office time after time. I was one of them that voted for these moral cowards. I wonder if these dummies realized that the Muslim prayers was asking Allah to punish them for not being a Moslem. How ignorant and naïve can one be and be an elected representative of the people? Answer: Very.
Jay Boo says
All the same let’s not give all the credit to their stupidity.
After all, Satan loving (MUSLIMS) are incredibly devious.
Lynne says
Just wondering. Did they allow this Barbara Comstock to go in the front door of the mosque? When Trudeau visited a mosque in Ottawa the females in his group had to enter by a side door.
Voytek Gagalka says
Apparently they don’t have a slightest clue about nature of Islam if they hold such views. If President Trump wish to find common language with this kind of “republicans,” he should institute massive education campaign within his party (probably that would be good also for him, too).
762x51FMJ says
Hillary believes in partial birth abortion of Americans, And financed the Arab Spring and FSA, causing a genocide of Christians and a refugee crisis,,
Hillary wanted to Amend the1st Amendment to prohibit Anti Islamic speech, Hillary wants to abolish the 2nd Amendment for Americans to own guns in their own homes ( Heller vs D.C.) .to protect themselves and families. while simultaneously pushing for completely open borders for ISIS and Cartels to enter the USA.( Who we would then be defenseless against ) Hillary wants selective immigration, No Christians or Jews allowed with 550% increase in Syrian immigration of fighting age men only.
Saudi Arabia does not permit Abortion, Doesn’t allow free speech, has no 2nd Amendment has a very secure border, and doesn’t allow Christians or Jews to immigrate.
But Saudi Arabia Supported Clinton for America…… I wonder why?
Kepha says
And now you know why Evangelical Christians like me voted for a twice-divorced, serial adulterer, and casino magnate who claims he’s never had to ask God for forgiveness (I fear for his soul). We sought a bodyguard against politicians and especially jurists of HRC’s stripe if we couldn’t find someone more in tune with our values.
gravenimage says
All true, Kepha.
awake says
762×51,
Are you the same never-Trumper who inhabited that now-dead site Moonbattery?
Jay Boo says
“Those Who Stand For Nothing, Fall For Anything”
davej says
It is not possible to worship Allah and endorse the Koran without being a danger to the American Republic. Muslims are using the idea of “religious liberty” as the crowbar to enter our society, where they will proceed to trample our Constitution and crush our freedoms.
No politician should respect any ” religion” that has a death penalty for leaving it. This pandering to a violent anti-democratic cult must stop. Those who seek the support of Islamists are signing their own death warrants and ours as well.
EYESOPEN says
You are absolutely correct, DaveJ. Unfortunately, ALL Americans will suffer because of their fawning stupidity.
Phil says
What a bunch of schoolgirl kiss asses. I would have tole them that Islam has the same freedoms that all other religions have in America. They have the freedom to go to jail if they kill their daughter(s) here in America or if they bully or intimidate anybody for walking past their Mosque in a miniskirt. They need to behave themselves like civilized peaceful citizens and respect all other citizens of all other religions . Because THAT IS “WHAT AMERICA IS ALL ABOUT”
Too bad we need the majority in the house. I wish we could drain the swamp of kiss ass Islamic apologists.
billybob says
…and if any parent takes her daughter to somewhere to get her genitals mutilated that parent should be charged with a crime.
Angemon says
The French had several, a year ago. How did that turn out for them?
gravenimage says
Virginia Republicans visit mosque to address concerns about Trump
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These Virginia Republicans should be ashamed of themselves for letting themselves be used as tools in this fake victim mongering. I suppose they think this is a slap against Trump–but they are just these Muslims’ useful idiots.
Emmanuel says
That is the truth! I could care less about Muslims feelings or fears!
gravenimage says
Besides, I don’t believe that Muslims are scared–they just think that Trump is a setback for their conquest of the West.
don vito says
These fears are just a phobia-trumpophobia.
PRCS says
Yup.
Steve Klein says
Mr. Spencer, if we are talking about muddying the waters, news reports indicate Mr. Trump “sets sights on ‘ultimate deal’ between Israel, Palestinian (jihadists)”
President-elect says he’d like to bring peace ‘to war that never ends’ for ‘humanity’s sake’
http://www.timesofisrael.com/trump-sets-sights-on-ultimate-deal-between-israel-palestinians/
Like George W. Bush, is Donald Trump going to try to make a distinction between murderous jihad against Israel and murderous jihad against America and the West? If this is not muddying the waters, what is it?
gravenimage says
Trump is *not* perfect–but is better than the alternative would have been.
PRCS says
She and Bill, per an article, are “conniving mercenaries”.
Heartily agree with that.
Dexter L. Wilson says
Again:
FINAL ELECTION 2016 NUMBERS: TRUMP WON BOTH POPULAR ( 62.9 M -62.2 M ) AND ELECTORAL COLLEGE VOTES ( 306-232)…HEY CHANGE.ORG, SCRAP YOUR LOONY PETITION NOW!
don vito says
I’m chewing my toenails over this. No sellout of Israel or we are toast.
abad says
“Many attendees of the mosque, which is one of the largest in the D.C. region, said they worry that Trump will ban Muslims from entering the country.”
Uh, Muslims should have been banned from entering the USA IMMEDIATELY following 9-11.
And.
If Muslims continue to have problems with the United States then I advise them to leave my country for Syria.
The United States of America is not the best place for Muslims to be.
gravenimage says
Yes–there was a proposal in the US right after 9/11 to bar most immigrants from “terror sponsoring states”, with exceptions only for those in danger there.
In practice, this would have kept out many Muslims, while allowing for religious minorities and apostates to enter. Not perfect–but it would have been a good start. It was shot down by the Left, though.
abad says
That is what Trump will probably do – we need to make a concerted effort to prevent these Muslims who hate us so much from coming here. They need to learn to stay on their own turf in the Middle East.
Rob says
‘.. and finally they came for the Republicans of Virginia’
gravenimage says
All too true, Rob.
Berengaria says
I am totally ashamed of Republican Party in Virginia, they are simply “Never Trump” stooges for the horrible Islamic Religion & political System.
They should remember that Muslims first tried to take over the Republican Party, failed & rambled over to the Democrat Party where they found a kindred spirit in the Godless DEMS.
I have no respect for those Fake Republicans in The Islamic Republic of Virginia.
Matthieu Baudin says
“… Religious liberty is not a license to commit treason or sedition. It is not an all-purpose justification for subversion…”
Well said!
There is a line that must not be crossed; if they cross that line then they will be hammered. It’s the same principle that applies in non Muslim countries and Muslim majority nations alike.
awake says
Hopefully, they should be concerned.
tgusa says
Trump has a problem with jihadists sneaking in to our country which is a reasonable position to take given that isis and many other groups have threatened to do exactly that. Do these republicans think that the mosque people are sympathetic to isis and might be offended? What are these idiots doing, have they completely lost their minds?
When I argue with numbskulls such as these I tell them that I am opposed to islam for three basic reasons (among many many others).
1. I believe that Women should have the same rights as Men.
2. I do not believe that homosexuals should be executed because of their behavior.
3. I believe everyone should have freedom of religion and freedom to have no religion.
All three of these beliefs are antithetical to islam and ask any cleric, they are undeniable. Some things in islam cannot be denied because doing so could bring the wrath of allah down upon the offender.
Polar opposites.
eduardo odraude says
Allah permits deception if the believer feels that he or Islam is at risk — this can be elastic, to where deception is justified for anything that benefits Islam.
LINK: “We smile in the face of some people although our hearts curse them.”
The evidence at the link does not mean that any Muslim friend is not really your friend. Many Muslims don’t know the part of the Qur’an involved. Nevertheless, enmity and deception by Muslims toward non-Muslims is core part of Islamic culture. Tragically, the Qur’an itself puts a thorn of distrust and fear between Muslims and everyone else.
duh swami says
There is no such thing as absolute freedom of religion…When it comes Islam, many Republicans are just as irresponsible as the left…
PRCS says
Any and all religions–which practices violate U.S. law.
DogOnPorch says
Religious freedom mean freedom from religion as well as for. Islam had better smarten-up and reform: killing the infidel is NOT a freedom folks are going to put-up with.
duh swami says
Islam can’t be reformed…Ho do you reform perfection?
PRCS says
If a Muslim believes Qur’an is Big Al’s literal, infallible and eternally unchangeable word, reformation ain’t in the cards.
Carolyne says
Should have known it was Northern VA near Washington DC. DC is infested with pro-Muslim idiots who have no idea of what their future would be if Islam should take over, as they surely will if they keep importing them.
Donald Trump was right the first time. We should stop letting them invade until we find a way to vet them. I heard him a couple of days before the election say that we and Middle Eastern Countries along with Europe should set up safe zones in their own countries and let them live there as food, etc. is furnished them. He mentioned the other countries because he said they should help pay for the sanctuaries.
This is all PC propaganda by those Washington drones to get themselves more Saudi money.
That's PRESIDENT Trump to you! says
This just proves the GOP is as stupid as the Dems. Do these idiots actually think that anything they say is going to change the moslem’s minds? They’re crazy!
eduardo odraude says
Muhammad affirms that those who do not follow him will be slaughtered
LINK: Page 222 (326 in the Arabic) of the earliest Muslim biography of Muhammad:
Dexter L. Wilson says
It is interesting because Mohammad did not know if even he was going to paradise but all Muslims believe Jesus did.
eduardo odraude says
In his heart of hearts he probably had at least an inkling of where he was going. And it wasn’t to paradise.
eduardo odraude says
Here’s where Muhammad surely is:
http://www.znak.org.pl/graph/news/mainphoto/large/Mahomet%20w%20piekle%20Modena.jpg
Dexter L. Wilson says
Thomas Jefferson’s letter to the Danbury Baptist had no force of law. The Supreme Court made up Separation of Church and State. Otherwise there could be no chaplains in the any of the branches of government, or Congress or the Senate. Fear of someone talking about Religion in Schools was never intended by the Founders. So why not teach comparative Religion in public schools. If honest it would be so simple to show the evils of the Koran and the justification for Judaism and Christianity. Go ahead and talk about the Baal Religion of Satanism which promotes animal and human Sacrifice since we already sacrifice our unborn children to Baal and let them see the bodies of those sacrificed and see how long women would continue that sacrifice. We must be just and the best way is not to let such things be hidden. Someone made of that story about a woman teacher who told a child that he or she was going to hell because they hadn’t received Jesus. and now we are paying the price for it. Never let the Jurists get away with this again without showing the obvious truth. We worship at the alter of evolution when it can not be proven and much of it is faked. We can however show how Creationism best describes origins, how the flood explains an ice age and its cause, and the rapid deposit of layers of sediment with evidence that dinosaurs did live at the same time as man as many of our cave drawings depict. And you can find that out for yourselves. The Science for Creationism is there and more appropriate that Evolution. I know someone out there will contradict me but if he or she will do the research they will soon see how impossible it is considering Darwin who considered the cell simple and now we know it was not simple because we know if you change one protein chain, the cell will die. let them study to show themselves real wisdom.
eduardo odraude says
Proof that Republicans, too are idiots about Islam. What if the Nazis declared themselves a religion. Would the brilliant Virginia Republicans declare that they don’t believe in keeping Nazi religion out of the country, because after all, freedom of religion is a value of Virginia Republicans?
These idiots need to be impeached for criminal negligence in their constitutional duties. Or else they should be recalled because of indications of severe mental impairment and inability to competently perform their duties.
Hannah Szenes says
Whitbeck and Comstock…figures!
Pong says
Republicans are apologizing for winning election. Pathetic.
francisco chevres says
How can Jihad Watch educate, illuminate, these Republican politicians about the truth of the Islamic deceitful ways against the Western and civilized world and the barbaric nature of Sharia laws?
Some direct written communication should help other than forcing them to read your books, particularly The Infidel’s Guide to Islam. How can you help them open their eyes or to listen to your knowledgeable explanation of what is really an effort to stablish a Caliphate in the USA/
eduardo odraude says
The problem is not so much how to convince. The problem is how to get more people to make more effort to convince. Even there, actually it’s not a question of “how” — the “how”, fundamentally, is a no-brainer: each one of us must get to the work of self-education and educating others.
UNCLE VLADDI says
Islam is not a religion at all – it’s simply a global crime gang whose holy-mobster gang members blame a nonexistent “god” for their own criminal desires and actions.
The Qur’an and islam itself should be banned, because everything muslims pretend to believe is “holy” is already a crime!
The Qur’an is more than just another flawed book of confusing, contradictory superstitious nonsense, it’s evil.
It should never be allowed by backwards people to be considered “illegal” to accuse these criminals (muslims) of their crimes, allegedly because the painful truth might offend them or hurt their feelings, and so “make” them commit even more crimes!
No problem was ever solved by ignoring it, and we aren’t doing even any of these muslims (whose own ancestors were among Muhammad’s first victims) any favours by going along with any of their historic lies and alibi excuses for their crimes.
Pretending islam is just another religion like all the others, hijacked by some con-men, is wrong.
That’s only a parochial, Western-based and ethnocentrist approach to islam.
Islam is NOT only a real religion which can be and is sometimes only occasionally misunderstood and/or taken advantage of by a few evil persons.
It’s not also – as are all the other, “real” religions – only an opinion presented as a fact (i.e: only a simple case of delusive criminal fraud)!
Islam is really an actual threat to everyone because IT says it is, not because we misinterpreted it.
According to their own Eastern histories, islam has an official 1,400 year history of “holy” lies, extortions, robberies, tortures, arsons, kindappings, slaveries, rapes and 270 million murders: that’s OVER A QUARTER-BILLION INNOCENTS SACRIFICED TO ALLAH, so far!
For a detailed breakdown of historical islamic depredations by region and era, just Google for: “Tears of Jihad.”
Islam has a larger death-tally than that of EVERYONE ELSE, both secular and religious, COMBINED, and with an historical average of less than 1% of the global population to have committed it with, too!
Do the math: 270 million divided by 1,400 is almost 200,000 per year, or over 500 per day, or over 20 per hour or about one person every three minutes being murdered by Muslims ever since Islam was founded.
So, simply and precisely because of their “THOU SHALT KILL!” cultural indoctrination, MUSLIMS ARE STILL FROM BETWEEN FOUR AND SEVERAL HUNDRED TIMES MORE LIKELY TO ENGAGE IN MURDER (and all other crimes,) THAN EVERYONE ELSE IN THE WORLD!
According to Paris-based Iranian sociologist Farhad Khosrokhavar, “of France’s 64,000 prisoners, up to 60% are Muslim. (Muslims are thought to compose only 8% of the population.)”
Based on data from 2011, Pew Research Center estimated that Muslims made up 9% of the 1,598,780 state and federal prisoners in the United States. Pew also reported that as of 2010, about 0.8% of the U.S. population was Muslim, up from 0.6% in 1990. Data allegedly provided by the federal Bureau of Prisons reported that, as of 1997, Muslims made up 7.27% of the federal prison population.
In other words, Muslims are overrepresented in the French prison population by 7.5 times their percentage of the population. In the United States, although their overall percentage is smaller, Muslims are overrepresented in the prison population by 11.25 times their percentage of the population.
Here’s the most recent American prison-inmate-by-religion stats:
US Inmate population religious preferences
58% Christian
29% Muslim
13% Other (including Atheist)
Since muslims are at most 3% of the total population in America, it’s obvious they are TEN TIMES more likely than their numbers would indicate, to be in prison.
And I believe Americans in general poll at 80% Christian, so they are under-represented in prison, by at least 30% or one third less than one might have otherwise expected, based on population percentage alone.
But it’s not surprising, really:
ALL muslims are criminals: by their own rules, they must endorse in public every word in the Qur’an, which tells them that they are so “superior” to all non-muslims, that it’s not only their right, but also their holy duty to their god, to extort, enslave, and murder all the non-muslims in the world, simply for the “crime” of not being muslims:
“Slay the non-muslims wherever you find them,” (Qur’an 9:5), “Strike upon the necks and strike from them every fingertip,” (Qur’an 8:12) and “Fight them until there is no unbelief and the religion, all of it, is for Allah” (Qur’an 8:39).
And they have no choice – islam isn’t cafeteria catholicism, it’s all or nothing (sura 2:85) and so
if they give evidence they aren’t toeing the line, the others must murder them for hypocrisy (4:86).
Therefore all muslims call them selves “muslims” and not “islamists,” or “radicals,” or “moderates!”
So the Qur’an is a clearly-written, us-versus-them hate-crime book, endorsing a permanent might-makes-right death-threat.
ALL muslims are criminals, as being members of the ancient, ongoing global extortion racket called islam. In sharia law texts, muslims are SUPPOSED to be regarded as threats (as “objects of fear”) by all the unbelievers, whether or not the individual muslim has itself actually committed any crimes.
(As documented in the Hedaya, Volume II, Book IX, INSTITUTES, on pages 154 & 157); Qur’an 8:57 & 60.
That’s why we have laws against simply being a MEMBER of a crime-gang or ‘criminal enterprise’ because their membership endorses the inherent threat. Threats are crimes in themselves: they are psychological attacks, also known as intimidation, bullying, coercion, duress, harrassment, activist agitation, extortion, and “terrorism.”
And even any “only” attempted crimes are still considered by civilized people to be crimes.
Here’s islam’s “holy Message from god” as exemplified by the collective words and deeds of it’s Founder:
“I will save humanity by lying to, extorting, torturing, robbing, burning out of their homes, kidnapping and ransoming, enslaving, raping and murdering everyone who even only verbally disagrees with me – and you can, too!”
– Muhammad –
Muhammad was really only a con-man and bandit-king, an arch-criminal who always blamed “god” for his own penchant for committing crimes. If Moe got away with committing a crime (and he tried them all, enthusiastically, more than once, but instead of ever showing contrition, bragged about how much fun it was to commit them, and advised everyone else to join in the fun, too), then it was held to be “obvious” that “god” wanted him to get away with having committed those crimes!
And since “allah” forced him to commit them, they were never really “crimes” at all in the first place!
Everything muslims pretend to see as “holy” is already a crime!
Why did Muhammad really hate both dogs and pictures of himself? Probably only because he was a career criminal constantly on the run from the Meccan authorities, so he detested tracking dogs and wanted-posters with his picture on them.
Bottom line? Islam is not a “religion” (at all, much less one “of peace”) nor is it a “race” (at all, much less one of “Poor, Oppressed, People Of Colour”)!
Obviously, islam is ONLY an ancient, ongoing extortion-racket CRIME-syndicate, and the only “religious” part in it, is where they say:
“God told us to commit these crimes!”
(Capisce?)!
😉
The Qur’an clearly and very specifically tells muslims the Bible is wrong and also that all Christians and Jews are infidel criminals who worship a false god, and who must therefore be extorted, enslaved, and murdered for their “crime” of not being muslims:
Sura (Chapter) 47:1-4 of the Qur’an:
1: non-muslims are bad, (allegedly because they insult allah by dividing his nature*);
2: muslims are good, (allegedly because to them allah is the cause of everything*);
3: Allah made them both like that;
4: So muslims should chop off the non-muslims’ heads.
(“Allah could have done it himself, but he wants you muslims to do it for him”).
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It’s all right there, in context: islamic violence is entirely general doctrine-driven, and not at all specific grievance-driven.
(And chapter 47 isn’t by any stretch even remotely the worst, most violent chapter; that honor goes to either chapter 8 or 9).
So don’t go looking for what actions of yours may have offended or provoked them; they have been taught from birth that your existence alone offends their god, and so should offend them.
Muslims have been officially taught to believe that they are the “best of people” (Qur’an 3:110) and that unbelievers are the “most vile of created beings” (Qur’an 98:6).
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*[Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority: their abode will be the Fire: And evil is the home of the wrong-doers! (3:151)].
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So, if and when you consider islam to be a religion, you must agree with it’s main tenet: that God is a violent murderer who wants his muslim tribe to violently conquer the world by extorting, enslaving, and murdering all the non-muslim humans, right?
At WORST, all REAL religions only say:
“Obey our silly rules, or GOD (/’the gods’) will get you!”
…but ONLY islam says:
“Obey our silly rules, or WE will get you (‘for god’)!”
A forced ‘Faith!’ ISN’T a “Faith!” at all – it’s only extortion, and extortion is always a CRIME.
Bottom line: Muslims must be told straight out, unequivocally: “If you decide to believe in “allah,” you have declared yourself a criminal, and so must be arrested, indicted, tried and convicted. Your confession of “faith” in your crime-god will help us to do so.”
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Further, here are some more teachings from the Koran, “valid from eternity to eternity”:
2:191 Slay the unbelievers wherever you come upon them.
9:5 Kill the unbelievers wherever you find them.
2:98 Allah is the enemy of the unbelievers.
30:45 Allah does not love the unbelievers.
3:28 Muslims must not take the infidels as friends.
3:85 If anyone desires a religion other than Islam (submission to Allah) it will never be accepted.
8:12 Cast terror into the hearts of the infidels. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them.
8:60 And prepare against them whatever you are able of power and of steeds of war by which you may terrify the enemy of Allah and your enemy.
4:89 Anyone trying to leave islam must be murdered for it.
Got that yet? “Kill them wherever you find them!” is from (2:191, 4:89, AND 9:5).
There really is not any room for doubt. Islam is a MURDER-gang / extortion racket posing as religion.
Connie says
“It’s an Invasive Political Supremacist Ideology to impose itself with constant demands for special treatment always backed by the implicit threat of conflict and violence.” Pat Condell