The Telegraph blames America’s right to bear arms for its so-called murder rate problem, which includes jihad attacks:
From family rows and college shootings, such as the one in Roseburg which killed 10, to terrorist attacks, like Orlando’s Pulse nightclub attack which left 50 dead, thousands have died because of guns legally produced and bought in America.
The Telegraph is saying that America’s massive rate of gun-related deaths is due to its gun culture, rooted in the Second Amendment. The Telegraph also mocks the view that jihad mass shootings constitute a real threat:
Between 2001 and 2014, there were 3,380 American deaths caused by terrorism. This compares to 440,095 deaths as a result of gun violence.
The implied solution to the gun violence problem: disarm Americans. But the article doesn’t come right out and say to disarm law-abiding Americans, nor does it tell you that a negligible number of gun homicides are committed by people using legal guns.
In a similar — but overt — drive to disarm law-abiding citizens, the German left has been planning to disarm “right-wing extremists,” “Brexiteers,” and Trump fans.
One of the disarm-Germans advocates actually argued:
“America’s right to bear arms is ‘racist’ because white people tend to use their guns to commit suicide rather than murder ‘each other en masse’, which he says black people do.”
No matter what Americans and Europeans do, the sins of the past — the Ku Klux Klan, colonialism, slavery and generally, Eurocentrism — are used to help foster blindness to genuine threats today. That blind spot covers the astronomical tally of victims of the Muslim persecution of Christians, the beheadings of infidels, the stabbing of infidels and running them over with cars, the infiltration of the West by jihadist criminals, and much more.
On the gun control issue, the media game is to skew the truth to fit the agenda of stripping Americans of their right to bear arms. There have also been systemic government coverups on the issue of murders committed by illegal immigrants, so in the absence of comprehensive data, Fox News did its own investigative research and found that “a wildly disproportionate number of murderers, rapists and drug dealers are crossing into the U.S. amid the wave of hard-working families seeking a better life. The explosive figures show illegal immigrants are three times as likely to be convicted of murder as members of the general population.”
There’s a drive to disarm law-abiding Americans, and not only Americans, but all peace-loving people in the West. With jihadist infiltration and the migrant crime wave in Europe, we see what America will also face: massively increased rates of assault and attacks from migrants. In fact, the same Telegraph report (ironically) cited FBI projections:
We have used the FBI definition of a mass shooting: where four or more people were shot in a single event, at the same time and location, not including the shooter. As the archive says, there is likely to be more mass shootings in the US than are reported here, due to reporting gaps and a lack of authoritative data on the issue.
Rather than openly talk about America’s problems with Muslim migrants and other groups, and try to find some workable solution for the sake of public safety, the Telegraph prefers to be politically correct and talk about America’s problem with guns.
The kicker is that in a country that has seen the number of guns far outweigh the entire US population for the first time (since the election of Obama), only a tiny fraction of crimes are committed with legal guns, yet special interest lobbies continue to manipulate the numbers in an effort to blame guns and disarm America as the jihad advances.
“Special report 400 dead this year: the face of America’s mass shootings problem”, Telegraph, December 1, 2016:
From family rows and college shootings, such as the one in Roseburg which killed 10, to terrorist attacks, like Orlando’s Pulse nightclub attack which left 50 dead, thousands have died because of guns legally produced and bought in America.
Between 2001 and 2014, there were 3,380 American deaths caused by terrorism. This compares to 440,095 deaths as a result of gun violence – which includes homicides, accidents, suicides, as well as mass shootings.
The Telegraph has documented 2016’s victims of American mass shootings, defined as incidents where more than four people were shot. This varies from Tedashii Williams, an 11-month-old baby from Florida, to Beatrice Dotson, a woman who had lived to 95 before being shot in a shopping mall.
We have marked the perpetrators who died in their own mass shootings in red.
Children
This year, 39 victims of mass shootings have been aged under 18. 11 were under 10, and 12 were shot by family members.Children as young as one are killed
Ida Villegas-Hernandez and Alejandro Rodriguez are among the youngest killed, both three years old before being killed by their fathers who then turned the gun on themselves. Alejandro was three days away from his fourth birthday.Ida’s father shot her in the head after her mother asked him for a divorce. He made a failed suicide attempt, writing a note stating: “This wasn’t the solution but my kids and I were suffering greatly”. One victim, Tedashii Williams, hadn’t even turned one before he was shot.
Young men
Young men are more likely to be killed in mass shootings. This year, 74 victims were men aged between 18 and 24.Young men are among the worst-hit
The average age of this year’s victims is 31 years, compared to the US average of 37.8. 72 per cent of victims were male. Nine 18-year-old males have been killed this year: Joshua Morrison, Tory Carlson, Antoine Alexander, Jordan Larkin, Stef’an Strawder, Traeven Harris, Zoruan Otto Harris, Matthew Hicks and Brian Davis.Joshua Morrison was an attendee of Tabb High School and was killed when travelling to a party with his friends. After an altercation in the car, Dijon Whitter fired several shots which killed Joshua and injured four others.
Pulse nightclub
50 of this year’s mass shooting deaths were in a terrorist attack at the Pulse nightclub in Orlando.Pulse is one of America’s deadliest shooting
Omar Mateen, carrying a semi-automatic rifle and a semi-automatic pistol, went into the gay nightclub and committed America’s deadliest shooting by a single shooter.42 of these deaths were male, and the average age of the victims was 29. The oldest of these was Franky J. Dejesus Velazquez, a 50-year-old visual merchandiser and professional Jibaro dancer.
The youngest was 18-year-old Akyra Monet Murray, who had just graduated third in her class at West Catholic Preparatory High School. She had received a full basketball scholarship to study at Pennsylvania’s Mercyhurst College.
Family shootings
At least 30 family members have been killed by relatives in mass shootings this year.Whole families have been killed by a relative
Wives, parents and children have all been killed in shooting rampages by their relatives. 12 of the victims have been children, including two three-year-olds who were killed by their fathers. Doris Dooley, the oldest victim, was 74 when her grandson shot her.Cameron Dooley killed five relatives before committing suicide. Similarly, four members of the Dej-Odoum, Villegas-Hernandez and Buckner families have all been killed by relatives. Apart from Juan David Villegas-Hernandez, who is in custody, these incidents concluded in the perpetrator’s suicide……
This problem isn’t going away
Mass shootings represent just a small fraction of people shot to death in America. Americans killed in mass shootings make up less than half of one percent of its citizens killed by guns. More than half of gun deaths are suicides.During Obama’s second term as President, it is estimated that more than one million guns have been sold every month.
The President has become increasingly frustrated with gun policy over his time in office, but the pro-gun lobby and President-elect Donald Trump argue that attempts to restrict gun ownership is a breach of their right to bear arms under the Second Amendment.
Meanwhile, American mass shootings – and gun violence more generally – continue to claim at least one life each day, adding another face to the list of the dead…….
We have used the FBI definition of a mass shooting: where four or more people were shot in a single event, at the same time and location, not including the shooter. As the archive says, there is likely to be more mass shootings in the US than are reported here, due to reporting gaps and a lack of authoritative data on the issue.

miriamrove says
Isn’t Telegram a British paper? If so what the…care about our country? Brits have massive issues with their teeth because the extra ordinary consumption of potatoes. Did we tell them to stop eating potatoes? Perhaps we can swap, if they stop eating potatoes we will stop buying guns. m
Rev g says
Potatoes? I thought the problem was no fluoridated water. Same as most (all?) the rest of Europe.
miriamrove says
It is one of those, but we don’t tell anything, why should they tell us what to do. m
Bindon Blood says
What on Earth are you talking about? The English have no more teeth problems than anyone else. In fact dentistry is cheap in Britain because it is subsidized. I don’t think the English eat more potatoes,chocolate or anything else than anyone else. There is also fluoride in water. Americans can be so very parochial at times. Little boys are not sent up chimneys, orphans do not get sent to the workhouses, Londoners don’t speak like Dick Van Dyke in Mary Poppins,or say “Gawd lummey “or “Gawd bless yer guv’nor you’re a real gent” You are about 150 years behind the times. The trouble is in England is that the English will persist in thinking that Americans like them and America is a friend when in reality neither is true and never has been. Americans stopped being “cousins” on the outbreak of the revolution. Too many Irish,Scots,and Germans in America for America to be pro British. All the pro British Americans went to Canada or came back home to England.
Rev g says
And of course, English men and many other European nations have worse teeth than Americans. New data does call that idea into dispute, yet even English dentists still make excuses for the poor state of English teeth.
The data shows an increase in dental health in England in the last decade, but pure data can be difficult to decipher.
Bindon Blood says
That is a really stupid comment. To make such a comment you would need to look into every person’s mouth in England. You can say that some English have poor teeth,but why should it be most. Dentists say that everyone’s’s teeth need attention,because they are Dentists. Everyone I know had good teeth,care for their teeth and go to the dentist about once every year. I have perfect teeth. If most English had poor teeth ,I am more likely to know than you because in my life I have spoken to thousands if people in England. As I say your ideas are stuck in the 1930s . No one eats more sweet things than Americans,and dentistry is cripplingly expensive there.
Rev g says
I’m so sorry, I paraphrased an actual study. They went in-depth relating the various variables measured and how they could indicate improvement, or actually the opposite. You know, like more per capita dental visits does not absolutely mean better teeth, it could be because of worse teeth. Also, improvement over the last decade verifies past poor dental health instead of denying it.
http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20150602-do-the-british-have-bad-teeth http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-32883893
A Harris USA says
Bindon Blood, never mind Americans.. They joke about everyone!!! People from the South here, people from California, and New York. ALL are joked about.. YOUR bigger problem is the political whores in England, who bring in Muslims to the UK.. Get your Trump on and get ready to reclaim your land.. Or get used to living in Arabia North!!
Bindon Blood says
I am not talking about joking; I am talking about pure naive ignorance. There are plenty of goofy Americans about,especially ,or mainly ,amongst the poor. In England we are well aware of the problems created by the lefty politicians and yes,we do know how dangerous Islam is. Most of us voted to leave the E.U. But we can no more control the ruling elite than Americans can control Obama. A revolution is a serious step. It means death,suffering and hardship. Would you want to join in a revolution ? The American revolution brought much death and blood and suffering for decades with many innocent people killed,dispossessed,murdered and driven away. Don’t think that the US is not at risk from these people. You have Dearborn,Minnesota and many other growing problems with Muslims. Hopefully Trump will sort it out but look at the thousands of traitors rioting in the streets since Trump won. The Western world is in a mess, lots of it thanks to bad policies of Obama ,and Bush to some extent. Perhaps if America hadn’t been so keen to destroy Britain after the war and had supported the Empire instead of doing their best to destroy it,Islam would not be such a problem now. Eisenhower was one of the worst enemies of Britain,Roosevelt wasn’t the friend he is made out to be either. In fact America ,whenever she was needed to help Britain fight tyranny,held back until she had weighed up the odds,or was forced by circumstances to join in. America’s conduct for the first 2 years of WW 2 was despicable. In the end Germany declared war on her. The same in WW1 . She waited 3 years before she stirred herself to help her closest relations on the planet,the British ,being quite content ,if not happy,for Britain to sink. As I say ,America has never looked kindly on Britain,the American people have at best been indifferent.
Damocles Junior says
The English have dreadful teeth problems,combination of dreadful diet and a “free” dental service.
Bindon Blood says
Why is the English diet dreadful? What on Earth do you think people in England eat? What nonsense!
gravenimage says
Bindon Blood wrote:
The trouble is in England is that the English will persist in thinking that Americans like them and America is a friend when in reality neither is true and never has been. Americans stopped being “cousins” on the outbreak of the revolution.
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I’m sorry, BB, this is terribly silly. Do you think that America allying with Britain during WWII was the act of an “enemy”?
You face a terrible, existential threat from Muslims–as do we Yanks.
Your belief that Americans are your enemy–because you think some Americans may have outdated ideas about swingin’ England–while discounting invading Muslims is anything but wise.
Hey–some Brits still think that the US is like the wild west–but so what?
The fact is that most Americans *do* love Britain, and consider you our closest ally.
Really, we need to stand together. Any differences between civilized Western societies are ultimately pretty superficial.
Angemon says
That jackass is forgetting that criminals, whether black, white, red, yellow, pink or blue, get their hands on weapons regardless of the law.
Resist says
100 % right on! Thanks
Peter McLoughlin says
A week doesn’t go by in the UK without some local newspaper reporting on gun crime here. In my own insignificant home town, a local sweet-shop was held up by men with guns. That is in one of the most boring towns in the world.
The people committing the gun crime are invariably holding illegal guns. Almost impossible for someone to own a gun legally in the UK. But apparently those who wish to rob a sweet-shop have no trouble getting a gun.
What astonishes me is the obsession with UK media lamenting Americans being able to legally own guns. They never complain about Canadians, Mexicans, Finns, Norwegians, Swiss, etc. legally owning guns.
The anti-gun lobby is just another Leftist attempt at undermining America. The Left know that an unarmed population is a powerless population.
gravenimage says
Yes–there is a saying here, “when guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns”.
scott says
Nothing is ever said in the media that guns save more lives than they take.
Rev g says
Rkba has saved me from robbery, injury, or worse more than once. In only two of those instances did I even reveal the weapon itself. Never yet have I had to aim, let alone fire at, a potential assailant.
Guest says
So true
Dean hASH says
They won’t take our guns because the Armed Services are American Patriots too, there would be hell to pay. (1776)
Oliver says
What about that many of the killings- (mass murders) NOT COUNTING FAMILIES- there perps were liberals /progressives/Democrats?
Columbine; Sandy Hook; Orlando night club ( well, a Muslim, and in the US they were 75% or so for Clinton)(m and wasn’t it the shooter’s father who was at a Clinton rally, with a front row seat?).?
Perhaps, we should have a political tests for gun ownership. Republican and somewhat conservative-no criminal record-OK. Democrat/liberal/progressive– with a “guardian?
Just a thought.
( At Columbine, the 4 parents of the two shooters were liberal democrats) ( the shooters were under voting age)
Oliver says
RE: MY comments-on Columbine-were the guns legal? I don’t recall that, one way or another.
If legal, had to be parents guns. As they were 15-16 or so.
Cecilia Ellis says
Oliver, Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold tried to purchase guns at a gun show but were prohibited from doing so because they were underage. The next day, they went back with a friend, who was legally old enough to purchase guns. Their friend purchased the guns for them. Allegedly, the parents were unaware that this had occurred.
Westman says
Just to show the face of The Telegraph, here are a few current headlines: “The housing crisis threatens the foundations of our society – but immigration is not to blame”, “To restore Britain’s faith in the immigration system, we need statistics we can trust”, “The face of America’s mass shootings problem”.
What was once mainstream media is losing its local monopoly on news and opinion. New methods of advertising send the revenue where readers flock and that is becoming less, “old mainstream”. The recent US election demonstrated that, even with the most biased, outlandish, attempts to drive people to Hillary – the greatest destruction of mainline news credibility in the last 70 years – they couldn’t sell their opium to anyone but the leftist “true believers”.
Google, with its over-dependence on the Washington Post and NY Times, is paving the way for a conservative competitor. Today’s unique entity is tomorrow’s commodity.
When the day comes, and it likely will, when terrorists are running down The Telegraph’s hallways, committing mahem, perhaps someone will remember that weapons also have a defense pupose. They also might remember that the Arab men of “The Religion Of Peace” have a janbiya(dagger) in their wedding waistband which, unlike too many men of the EU, means they will protect their family, and self.
Transmaster says
Talk about a BS number. They are including suicides, and accidental shootings in that number even then the number is totally made up the actual number is less then half of that. Most of the shootings are inter-city gang related and mostly black on black.
Oliver says
The statistics I have seen. But not handy
If one takes our Washington DC. Detroit. Newark NJ. And New Orleans and throw in New York City. The U S had a very low rate. As mentioned earlier. There is a lot of inner city black on black killings in the numbers
gravenimage says
America’s right to bear arms blamed for homeland jihad attacks
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What absolute claptrap.
For one thing, not all Jihad terror attacks involve firearms–just look at OSU, where the weapons were an automobile and a machete.
And look at Europe, which has incredibly strict gun control laws–that has *hardly* kept Muslims from slaughtering victims there, both with guns and otherwise.
Moreover, there were no Jihad terror attacks just a scant couple of decades ago. Gun control laws here have not changed–just the number of ravening Muslims in our society.
common sense says
“Freedom of religion blamed for Islam in America.”
18,000 people have died in auto accidents this year so far.
If flying in commercial jet was 99.9% safe there would be a plane crash per week every year. Plane safety is higher than that and so is responsible gun ownership or we’d really know about it.
Police shootings(clean), suicide and gang related killings account for most of the deaths by guns.- they (Liberals) will keep up attempts disarming America is somehow a good idea.
I’ve seen army Captains state that they’d rather not see a gun again after seeing combat that does not mean they infringe on a universal and God given right in America to protect one’s self.
August West says
All guns should be Glocks.
All Glocks should be .45 caliber and model 30 (if mags are limited to 10 rounds)
All Glocks should be 9mm and model 19 (if there is no limit on mag size)
What is the Telegraph? If it is a news paper then perhaps it’s good for target practice?
Black Guns Matter
Barry Donnelly says
So what make and model was the Fire Arm used in the latest Islamic Terrorist attack in Ohio ??????
Guest says
If it’s not a gun it’s a knife, if it’s not a knife it’s a rock, and if it’s not a rock it’s a slow cooker bomb. Getting rid of weapons doesn’t get rid of the desire to kill and we have seen these primitive creatures can get creative when they wanna be.
gravenimage says
Exactly, Guest–this is, in fact, one of the very few ways in which Muslims are genuinely inventive. Very telling…
Edge of darkness says
30,000 + gun deaths per year in USA, murders, accidents, etc- Compare with groupings of other countries with unarmed similar population to USA the number of gun deaths is 200-300. Cut it any way you like but having an armed population results in this huge disparity in deaths.
duj swami says
Cancer and heart disease kill more people than guns…Does that concern you?
Rev g says
Yes, so true, when guns are hard to get, people kill each other with different weapons. But the overall numbers still compare similarly. So much more humane to stab someone to death or bludgeon then with a piece of pipe.
Oliver says
Back in 1947-58. During the British partition of India into India and Pakistan. With no guns. Somewhere on the neighborhood of a million people were killed. Rocks. Tree limbs. Molotov cocktails. Etc.
But no guns.
Oliver says
That is 1947-48 not 58.
Guest says
How many of those deaths were self defense?
duj swami says
The Telegraph should clean up its own back yard before complaining about ours…
Dom107 says
The arguments here in favor of universal access to guns for Americans is so unbelievably stupid I am can only conclude that gun ownership is an addiction like crack cocaine,smoking or alcohol with the same absurd logic which the adherents of these killer vices use to justify their insane behaviour
All countries suffer from these addictions but the USA has more victims than any other country.
The UK has a fraction of the murder rate by guns per thousand of the population than the US
Most law abiding people would probably not even know how to get a gun and don’t feel the need to have one.I once heard an American cop say that if guns made people safe the USA would be the safest country in the World which it isn’t as we all know.It is an illusion.There has been so many massacres in the USA recently that it is hardly news anymore.All the people who died this year,around 35000 so far had the right to bear arms.Did it save them ? No of course not!
In the UK we get all those American crime documentaries like ID,Forensic Detectives,Killer Women etc on TV and we can see that a gun makes it very easy for people to kill their parents,former lovers,policemen,fellow students and just about anybody whether they have got a pistol in their bedroom drawer or not.
It has nothing to do with the current wave of Islamic Jihadism. This has always been the case and in fact more Americans have been killed by other Americans than in all the wars fought by that country since independence. The second amendment is not the word of god and was written for its time when the security of the state was fragile and many people lived in wild and dangerous parts with wild animals and Indians.It is nothing to do with being left wing or right wing.The Telegraph newspaper in the UK has always been a right wing paper so there is no political angle.It is just that as a friendly country to the US we hate to see so many people being killed before their time.
I can’t seem an immediate solution as murder by gun is endemic and with the attitudes expressed above so common you will live with this level of murder until you can free yourselves from this very unintelligent mindset
Rev g says
If getting rid of guns made societies safe the prisons would be the safest places in America.
D.M. Dickson says
Listening to a quarter educated Brit, who clearly knows even less about contemporary America than he does about history, is comical, but terribly disappointing.
“I can’t seem an immediate solution as murder by gun is endemic…” ??? Do they even teach Latin over there anymore?
The Brits of my own generation, (72 year old academic), whom I’ve encountered and befriended all over the world, were and are tough realists. They resisted the overpowering and effeminate compulsion to take cheap shots at their friends for the perceived “crime” of cultural/ historical divergence. Further up the page we are accused of being “cowardly,” although that particular prole might be forgiven his ignorance since they apparently don’t teach history over there anymore either.
We cowardly Americans did, as I recall, rather trounce your bums twice in two separate wars. The “cowardly” French did help us a lot in the 1775 edition but in the 1812 episode, our shitty little navy and privateer contingent rather handily brought British shipping to a world-wide standstill(!) Fact. And your courageous burning down of our evacuated capitol of Washington didn’t seem to slow us down a bit. But that’s cowardice for you.
In the two World Inconveniences of the Twentieth, our arrival to honor your oft repeated requests for help in the First Dust-up, resulted at a minimum in the major demoralization of the Jerrys, who knew right well, and as they later confessed, that this first wedge in an inexhaustible supply of “the best marksmen in the world” would sooner, rather than later, result in things going South. We also brought large sums of our filthy money, along with many shiploads of food for our suffering cousins. This has since been swinishly characterised as “too little too late” by the more priggish liars among you.
Then of course there’s the Second Dustup, where we selfishly arrived again in person, armed to the teeth due to our obsessive, sick gun lust , as the next wave in an enormous stream of money, food, ordinance and material’ on a scale not seen in the world theretofore. Then we landed with you in Europe and died with you in the forests and hedgerows after Normandy. All the way to shaking hands with the evil Russians, also huge benefactors of our stinginess and cowardice, as already demonstrated on the lethal yet ongoing Mermansk Run.
Some of us even complained that given our heaven sent situation of prosperity and innovation and hatred of war, situated impregnably between two vast oceans, we had no need to jump into Europe’s latest among countless blood-lettings. But no, like cordial children, still nostalgic for our decadent and weaselly parents, we did our duty to the old country, in the teeth of their contempt and twice repeated efforts to put us totally out of business as a people. And we even got stiffed by you at war’s end and ever after, for the trillions of dollars “loaned” to you Limey sods in addition to our totally un-sordid and not really so very cowardly help in spilling our blood on your behalf. And now you’re offering to free us from our (oh my my) Unintelligent Mindset.
An old professor just back with Andy my very English Setter, from slaughtering those poor widdle birdies. Meanwhile whose streets are no go zones? Who lacks the moral metal to protect its daughters from rape rising at exponential rates? Whose cities are overrun with the Sions of a barbarous “Religion?” Whose ancient capitol is now virtually an Islamic city with an insufferable and pompous Mohammedan mayor?
Do you imagine that a German New Years celebration culminating in 1,400 rapes and horrific male on female beatings will happen here in the Land of Serf and the Home of the Poltroon? Do you reckon it likely that our culture will be sold out by its own lilly-livered leaders? I think not. If you continue to welcome the final abolition of your ancient religion, your freedoms that generations of your noble ancestors for generations fought Islam to preserve, in very short order the cathedrals and churches that I as a Chestertonian Catholic revere, will have been converted to mosques (they don’t even build their own houses of worship, everything they have from their very beginnings being filched from Christendom
I predict, to my own inestimable grief, that the biggest flock of refugees into this still living and vibrant and yes, courageous continent that for better or for worse we wrested by sheer will and genius and love and faith from a howling wilderness, yes the biggest flux of asylum seekers will be YOU and yours. Please don’t forget, because the offer is here and your welcome is assured .
And for God’s sake leave these childish natterings behind and re-join your former selves. That is to say, US.
Now, go forth and sin no more…
Edge of darkness says
The demographic stats in the UK re Muslims are coming to you too in the USA, in the UK Muslims are birthing three times the number of children (5.9 compared to 1.9 average), as the rest of the population! Presently 5% UK population is Muslim-3 million now- this has doubled in 10 yrs from 2.5% or 1.5 million and is forecasted to keep increasing. See how the USA numbers increase from your present 1%? over the forthcoming years-even Mr Trump can’t stop Muslims having children-the democracy demographics will over time increase the political and economic power of Islam in your country.
gravenimage says
Dom, whatever your view on the Second Amendment, if it were the right to bear arms that was responsible for Jihad terror then the US would suffer far more attacks than does Britain and Europe, which is clearly *not* the case.
Keith Jordan says
Please don’t lie to me. I know there is no terrorist problem, as all the liberals say so, and they are always right (or is it left)?