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Australia: Sunni Muslims get 20 years for jihad plot to bomb Shia prayer hall

Dec 10, 2016 3:20 pm By Robert Spencer

“Garling said neither of the offenders had been raised to follow an extreme version of Islam.”

Where did they learn this “extreme version of Islam”? At home only, or in the mosque? Which mosque? Is it being investigated?

“Judge sentences two men to 20 years over Sydney terrorism plot,” Australian Associated Press, December 8, 2016 (thanks to Kenneth):

Two men who planned to bomb a Sydney Shia prayer hall and vowed to stab people in the kidneys to impress an Islamic State recruiter have been jailed for at least 15 years.

Omar Al-Kutobi, 25, and Mohammad Kiad, 27, each pleaded guilty to one count of acting in preparation for a terrorist act, after they were arrested during counter-terrorism raids in February 2015.

In the NSW supreme court at Parramatta in Sydney’s west on Friday, Justice Peter Garling sentenced them to 20 years’ imprisonment with a non-parole period of 15 years.

The pair were arrested during a raid of their western Sydney flat by counter-terrorism police in February 2015, with officers finding a hunting knife, a machete and a homemade Islamic State flag.

Garling said neither of the offenders had been raised to follow an extreme version of Islam. But by the end of 2014 both “had been drawn to and had embraced the ideology of the Islamic State and extremist Islamic views”.

He said the prosecution had alleged that the conspiracy between the two amounted to detonating an improvised explosive device to damage or destroy a building, and/or using a machete or hunting knife to attack a member of the public….

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  1. Angemon says

    Dec 10, 2016 at 3:39 pm

    Garling said neither of the offenders had been raised to follow an extreme version of Islam. But by the end of 2014 both “had been drawn to and had embraced the ideology of the Islamic State and extremist Islamic views”.

    I guess that must have happened out of thin air then…

    • Damocles Junior says

      Dec 10, 2016 at 4:13 pm

      This is all the more strange as your president keeps telling the whole world that Islam is the religion of peace.

    • Just A Dash says

      Dec 11, 2016 at 9:59 am

      What does he know about their background?

      I remember that one of them got to Australia by getting hitched to a local muslima and then promptly ditched her when he got residency. It struck me that he was quite happy to shack up with his habib mate. They’ll be happy and at home in that all male residential resort for at least the next 15 years where they can bend over at least 5 times a day for whatever reason.

  2. Damocles Junior says

    Dec 10, 2016 at 4:26 pm

    It is very good to see that the authorities here have dealt with this disgusting episode of Islamic in-fighting with a decent jail term for the offenders.If it is not sectarian in-fighting these Islamic scum who have taken over most of South West Sydney are also constantly involved in drug gang shootings, family feuds which usually involve fire bombs or shootings and stabbings. They are also heavil involved in general crime including fraud, car theft and sexual assault.

    The police and the public are sick of it all and note the offenders have made it quite clear they have no respect whatsoever for Australian law.

    I just don’t quite know what to make of the judges comment, surely he is not trying to make excuses for them, or is he just hinting at the obvious, they commit these crimes simply because they are Muslims. They are all potential extremist, usually involved in crime anyway and they just hate the nominally Christian country that has given them a very good chance at life.

    • Custos Custodum says

      Dec 11, 2016 at 12:57 am

      There would likely have been no prosecution at all, and certainly only the most lenient of punishments, had the two Muslims planned to attack a Christian church rather than a Shiite prayer hall.

      The draconian punishment imposed by the dhimmi judge “duly” privileges Muslim victims over non-Muslims, as demanded by Islam.

      • Damocles Junior says

        Dec 11, 2016 at 4:38 am

        This is Australia, not PC EU or USA. There would have been an absolute outrage if a Christian church, police station or any other public building had been attacked.

  3. PRCS says

    Dec 10, 2016 at 4:44 pm

    Justice Peter Garling–http://tinyurl.com/hgjdwdp–makes a fool of himself with this nonsense:

    “Garling said neither of the offenders had been raised to follow an extreme version of Islam. But by the end of 2014 both “had been drawn to and had embraced the ideology of the Islamic State and extremist Islamic views”.

    What, exactly does that clueless twit think the Islamic State’s ideology is and what does he think constitutes extremist Islamic views?

    Why do so many judges–in so many nations–feel the need to do that?

  4. Oliver says

    Dec 10, 2016 at 5:40 pm

    Unless my computer, cell phone and calendar are all incorrect– IT IS NOW DECEMBER 2016.

    THESE TWO WERE ARRESTED FEB. 2015.

    IF WE WILL ALLOW THAT IT WAS THE END OF FEB. 2015, AND JUST THE BEGINNING OF DEC.- 2016, STILL OVER TWENTY (20) MONTHS FROM ARREST TO THEIR PLEADING GUILTY.

    Is the Australian criminal court system so backlogged?

    Were these people (using, in my view, the term loosely) free to roam the streets for these 20 months?

    And the 15 years-no parole- how strong is that? Can they, after say 2 or 3 years- request a new hearing, or whatever, or get a more lenient judge to reduce the sentence? Etc.

    Sort of like here-Life imprisonment, then the scum convict gets a new trial or a new lawyer and changes his or her story.

    Just asking

    • Damocles Junior says

      Dec 10, 2016 at 6:20 pm

      Yes, there is a huge backlog in our court system and our jails have serious overcrowding issues.And yes, i think it would be fair to say that Muslims are over represented in the criminal justice system and black African Muslims are over represented in common sexual assault cases. There have also been some terrible crimes committed by Muslims while they are out on bail awaiting trial. They also seem to be able to flee back to the Middle East while out on bail despite having surrendered their passports.

      • Oliver says

        Dec 10, 2016 at 6:56 pm

        Thank you for the update and information.

      • Just A Dash says

        Dec 11, 2016 at 9:47 am

        You surely don’t mean Eddie Obeid? The poor man has a dickie heart and other medical problems and couldn’t just jump on a plane back to Lebanon even if he wanted to.

    • tilda says

      Dec 10, 2016 at 10:39 pm

      No, they weren’t fee to roam the streets.

      They were arrested on 10 February 2015 and were held in custody from that date — that’s why their 20 year sentences commence from 10 February 2015.

  5. Oliver says

    Dec 10, 2016 at 5:43 pm

    Personally, I would have allowed them to blow up the Shia mosque, and kill people- so long as it was other Muslims.

    Then, hope the Shias would do the same to a Sunni mosque, and kill more Muslims.

    And let the trend continue-leaving normal people out.

    • Damocles Junior says

      Dec 10, 2016 at 6:26 pm

      perhaps there could be some perverse satisfaction in seeing Muslims shooting and throwing bombs at each other or torching each other’s mosques. Trouble is, too many innocent people can be caught in the cross fire. And just one simple example, if your car was to be damaged as a result of local Islamic street fighting it should be noted that “war, riot and civil commotion” are all excluded from your insurance cover.
      Sometimes they also shoot at or firebomb the wrong house, may be an innocent ageing Aussie couple who have clung on to their right to live in their own neighbourhood.

      • Oliver says

        Dec 10, 2016 at 6:55 pm

        Good points.

        I would just (or was just) hoping that all of their killings, etc would be within the mosque itself, nothing in the streets.

    • Anne Smith says

      Dec 11, 2016 at 5:48 am

      They certainly seem to enjoy killing each other – not just in Australia but all over the Middle East.

  6. mike says

    Dec 10, 2016 at 8:07 pm

    Yes, this is what the people of Sydney have to put up with every day.

    • Damocles Junior says

      Dec 10, 2016 at 9:31 pm

      But there are still lots of do-gooders out there still trying to tell us not to be Islamophobic.

      If you live in Sydney you will note that the very popular Daily Telegraph newspaper really tells readers how it really is, often reporting all this Islamic crime with banner headlines.

  7. vlparker says

    Dec 11, 2016 at 12:37 am

    Twenty years for a mosque. Probably 2 years max for a church or a synagogue.

  8. linnte says

    Dec 11, 2016 at 9:37 am

    And so they bring their personal religious war amongst themselves to Western countries. Sunni against Shia. I have been waiting for this. It’s another justifiable reason to NOT allow so called refugees into the Western countries.

  9. Florida Jim says

    Dec 11, 2016 at 10:44 am

    When muslims are jailed do not allow them to congregate in the prison and foment Islamic hatred as they do worldwide. The ignorant America jails and English jails aid in breeding jail muslims who get out and behead enemies or hatch 9-11 attacks.

  10. sidney penny says

    Dec 16, 2016 at 10:29 pm

    All the judges suddenly become experts on Islam.(their flowery bit)

    https://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/02/uk-jihadi-tells-judge-that-rigby-murder-not-a-betrayal-of-islam-you-dont-know-what-islam-is

    https://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/02/uk-judge-tells-jihad-murderers-of-soldier-that-they-betrayed-islam-they-start-screaming-allahu-akbar-and-fighting-prison-guards

    I suppose all judges want to add their flowery bit, and Justice Imam Sweeney of the UK High Court is no different.

    “The Imam Sweeney told them: “You each converted to Islam some years ago. Thereafter you were radicalised and each became an extremist, espousing views which, as has been said elsewhere, are a betrayal of Islam.”

    “This enraged them, and they began a fight in the courtroom. It would have been interesting to see Mufti Sweeney explain what exactly was a betrayal of Islam in the actions of Mujaahid Abu Hamza and Ismail ibn Abdullah, aka Adebolajo and Adebowale”

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