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Germany banned version of Qur’an as “extremist,” but afraid to dispose of copies

Dec 31, 2016 6:32 pm By Robert Spencer

The German government’s position here is inconsistent. If it is holy, why did they ban it? If it is “extremist,” and they don’t believe it is the real Qur’an, then why not just burn the copies?

“German authorities puzzled over Koran disposal,” by Elisabeth Schumacher, DW, December 31, 2016:

Police have confiscated tens of thousands of copies of a banned version of the Koran that came under fire for promoting religious hatred. Now the authorities must decide what to do with them.

Throughout 2016, German authorities carried out raids on hundreds of locations across 10 federal states in a crackdown on the “True Religion” Salafist group, confiscating tens of thousands of copies of a fundamentalist translation of the Koran. According to media reports on Friday, the government was grappling with how to dispose of the texts – and the only option may be to bury the whole lot in the desert.

In one warehouse alone in the Cologne suburb of Pulheim, wrote German broadcaster WDR, some 22,000 of these controversial Korans sit wrapped in plastic. Emblazoned with the word “Lies!” which translates to “Read!” or “Read It,” the books were removed from circulation for “spreading messages of hate and anti-constitutional ideologies,” in the words of Interior Minister Thomas de Maiziere.

De Maiziere has further said that more than 100 young men traveled from Germany to Iraq and Syria to join the so-called “Islamic State” (IS) terrorists after being exposed to the book’s strict, draconian interpretation of Islam and Islamic law. Along with the book, the “True Religion” group that distributed it has also been banned for promoting hate.

But the ban does not solve the dilemma of how to properly get rid of thousands of books which contain Islam’s holy scripture. According to WDR, the government of North Rhine-Westphalia has been in contact with Muslim leaders and experts in Islamic studies for a method of disposal that does not involve burning, shredding, or recycling the paper.

The traditional way to dispose of an old or desecrated Koran is to wrap it in a cloth and bury it, preferably somewhere hallowed and nowhere a person may accidentally walk over it. While some scholars say dropping it into flowing water or burning it is acceptable when burial is impossible, the first option presents logistical and environmental dilemmas while the latter evokes unsavory historical connotations….

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Comments

  1. nicu says

    Dec 31, 2016 at 6:39 pm

    Burn In PUBLIC !

    Happy New Year to all of you – Peace !

    • mortimer says

      Jan 1, 2017 at 6:53 am

      And watch out for the 18-wheeler Islamic PEACE TRUCKS coming to destroy your outdoor festivals.

  2. Keith Gilbert says

    Dec 31, 2016 at 6:42 pm

    In the interest of conservation I would think that recycling them into toilet paper and tampons would be appropriate.

    • ed cox says

      Dec 31, 2016 at 10:10 pm

      Tolit paper with Mohammad’s picture !!!

    • f c king says

      Jan 1, 2017 at 4:58 am

      Perfect. Kitty litter too.

      • epistemology says

        Jan 2, 2017 at 6:18 am

        Good idea, I love kitties shitting on the unholy Koran. The Germans are inconsistent as usual. The Koran is crap and you have to treat it accordingly. But the Germans prefer sitting on the fence.

  3. bleeps says

    Dec 31, 2016 at 6:44 pm

    Should we see burning Korans just like it happened under Christianity in middle age and forget the evil Islam is or keep the copies so we know Islam is bad, really bad?! It’s a rhetoric anyone should put in their minds when dealing with something like this because history teaches us that if we forget history, history has a tendency to repeat itself again in new cycles of evolution and it won’t be any softer but extremely dangerous to our very existence!

  4. Dave Flang says

    Dec 31, 2016 at 6:45 pm

    I disagree. Book burning limits freedom for all and it will not stop the Muslims, but will only make them more aggressive.

    What’s the answer for everyone?

    .The Kurdistan Brothers – Muslim Converts –
     A brother is born for adversity according to an old proverb and the two brothers in the following story illustrate the truth of that saying. When the younger one broke with tradition the older one wanted to break his neck. This is the true story of Syeed and Kocka, two brothers from Kurdistan who were adversaries until their minds, and hearts and lives were unshackled.

  5. Bronson says

    Dec 31, 2016 at 7:09 pm

    Translations aren’t the Koran so what’s the problem from an Islamic point of view?

  6. Carl Goldberg, PhD says

    Dec 31, 2016 at 7:13 pm

    These Korans should not be burned or otherwise disposed of. They should be distributed to all federal and state government officials who should be urged to read it so that they will better under the mindset of the immigrants flooding Germany.

    By the way, what is a “fundamentalist translation”? Is it accurate, or not? That is the question.

    • PRCS says

      Dec 31, 2016 at 8:53 pm

      Exactly right!

      Give them to government employees. If they then pretend to not know what it says, the only excuse will be that they chose to not do so.

      And how, and by whom was this particular “version” of Qur’an determined to be a “fundamentalist translation”?

      Has anyone yet told them there’s no Qur’an “lite” for squeamish “moderate” Muslims?

      • Anne Smith says

        Jan 1, 2017 at 10:43 am

        I simply cannot understand why they are being so squeamish over burning books which have been deemed unfit to read and therefore are of no further use.

        Chuck the whole lot in some sort of wood burning stove, it might be far more use in heating a few rooms than debauching young minds and destroying reason.

    • Westman says

      Dec 31, 2016 at 10:10 pm

      Perhaps Mr. Spencer could acquire one of these and give us a side-by-side comparison of specific passages over time with his Quran.

      I can’t imagine what makes this version more unpalatable. In every version on line, and there are sites that compare 5 or more versions, Allah hates unbelievers and calls for war upon, or, submission by, infidels. In every version, women are inferior, Christians and Jews are not to be taken as friends by Muslims who are expected to get in their faces and “forbid” whatever Allah says is wrong, and Allah will torture unbelievers in Hell, forever, to get his kicks. How could it be uglier?

      • gravenimage says

        Jan 1, 2017 at 11:39 pm

        Yes–I wonder what makes these Qur’ans any more “extremist” than your average Qur’an?

        My guess is that it includes commentary interpreting the verses as violent–which of course they are.

      • Klaas says

        Jan 2, 2017 at 4:35 am

        Exactly. All Quran translations I have seen are violent and full of hatred, but a few have softened the worst passages. Just last week I found a Spanish translation that replaces “beat your wife” with “impose a physical limit”.

        Does anybody know which Quran translation they may be referring to here? I would like to see it and judge it myself.

        This book should not be forbidden or burned, it should be exposed to the general public!

    • Frank says

      Jan 1, 2017 at 3:17 am

      By the way, there are several different ‘editions’ of the koran. I have seven of them. I guess there are plenty more.

    • Real McCoy says

      Jan 1, 2017 at 8:26 pm

      Carl Goldberg, Do you think the government officials they don’t know what is in Kuran?. For sure they know everything, but they are covert they don’t want to hear.

  7. mortimer says

    Dec 31, 2016 at 7:20 pm

    If the Koran cannot for practical reasons be condemned in court, it should be tried in a moot court and demonstrated to be hate literature.

  8. Baucent says

    Dec 31, 2016 at 7:20 pm

    ” confiscating tens of thousands of copies of a fundamentalist translation of the Koran.”

    More information needed here. Are they inaccurate translations of Arabic or are they translations with footnotes and commentary?

    • Mong says

      Dec 31, 2016 at 7:36 pm

      Agreed, more info needed. They’re either accurate or they’re not. This garbage about Arabic being untranslatable is insulting. The English language is the most nuanced and sophisticated language we have with more synonyms, antonyms and variations than any other. There’s nothing that you can say in Arabic that you couldn’t perfectly articulate in English. So, back to the point, is it an accurate translation in these books or not? Either way, they should be pulped.

      • John Doe says

        Jan 1, 2017 at 2:44 am

        Sorry. German beats English.

      • Pong says

        Jan 1, 2017 at 12:45 pm

        As an international language English has some advantages, but also many disadvantages.
        Todays English doesn’t express any particular culture and has little historical and traditional connotations.
        There are many expressions in other languages, which cannot be articulated in English. As a result english translations of the world literature are extremely poor. On the other hand, translations from English in some languages are very good. Just one example: Shakespeare translation to russian is arguably even better then the original. At the same time, french literature in english translation is almost impossible to read after one is familiar with the original.
        English have more synonyms, “antonisms and variations” then other languages, because none of the words are expressive enough. Yiddish, for example, which has much smaller vocabulary is a nightmare to translate into English.
        As with koran, it is not only the text, but also the commentaries, which do help to understand the meaning of the text. Koran is written as a poetry, which makes translation even more difficult. Some of the original pieces in koran are realy beautiful as a poetry, though their meaning is still terrible.
        Yes, koran is missing its beauty in translation, but that is not the point. We still can understand the meaning of it.

        • gravenimage says

          Jan 1, 2017 at 11:48 pm

          Actually, English has the largest vocabulary of any language. Your impression that it is somehow deficient compared to other languages is quite mistaken.

  9. somehistory says

    Dec 31, 2016 at 7:43 pm

    Those lines that advocate and describe the raping of children should be viewed as what they are: porn. But this isn’t happening in the U.S. (yet) so maybe they have different laws regarding that sort of thing after having “banned” the unholy, evil, books.

  10. PRCS says

    Dec 31, 2016 at 9:23 pm

    In German, lies means read.

    In English, of course, lies means just that.

    The Big Book; appropriately labeled..

  11. abad says

    Dec 31, 2016 at 9:30 pm

    How about a nice, big bonfire to warm a cold winter’s night in Germany??

  12. Angemon says

    Dec 31, 2016 at 9:30 pm

    Police have confiscated tens of thousands of copies of a banned version of the Koran that came under fire for promoting religious hatred.

    How does this version of the quran differs from the “official”, or “standard”, or “acceptable” version? Can the German government give a comparison of the offensive passages?

    • Michael Copeland says

      Jan 1, 2017 at 2:15 am

      “…an excellent pattern ….between us and you enmity and hatred for ever”,
      “…hostility and hate for ever”
      “…hostility and hatred for ever”
      “…animosity and hatred forever”
      Koran 60:4
      Those are from non-banned translations:
      http://corpus.quran.com/translation.jsp?chapter=60&verse=4

  13. Kepha says

    Dec 31, 2016 at 9:43 pm

    This shows why Americans must defend the First Amendment, and why all judges who would uphold “hate speech” codes should be impeached, removed, and then tarred and feathered and run out of town on a rail.

    Let the Salafists have their translation of the Qur’an. My guess is that it is no less accurate than others such as Yusuf Ali’s, Dawood’s, or Pickthall’s–although I’ll defer to the Arabists here about the quality of Qur’an translations. For that matter, let them print _Mein Kampf_, _The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion_, Mao’s _Quotations_, and Guevara’s _Diaries_(which, I understand, say some rather unflattering things about Mexicans and Africans). But allow me to write, publish, and sell my answers which say that such books are lies. Don’t ask me to subsidize the publications of these things which I hate, either.

    Further, run off the fools who want to police “fake news”–which seems to be more a code for guarding against viewpoints the powers that be don’t like rather than disinformation.

    Wir weben, wir weben…Congratulations, Germany. This time, it isn’t Silesian weavers weaving a shroud for the monarchial German fatherland, but Germany’s own desire to be enlightened and liberal. It shows in how the German authorities want to ban a book, but can’t figure out how to dispose of it for fear of the audience for whom it was published.

    Scheme dich, Deutschland!

    • Kepha says

      Dec 31, 2016 at 9:47 pm

      While we’re at it–I hope that all German parties of the Left will recognize that they’ve embraced as Comrades a movement that will be far worse than the Christian Landeskirchen and dissenting groups against which their patron saint Marx railed.

  14. davej says

    Dec 31, 2016 at 10:05 pm

    Banning any version is a start but I too would like to know what the difference is. The regular Quran seems quite hateful enough.

    As far as disposal goes we need to be more imaginative.

    Encase them in concrete and drop them on Mecca? Kind of a return to sender approach.

    Mix them with radioactive waste destined for long term storage?

    Pulp and use to print more copies of Robert’s books?

    • Keith Gilbert says

      Dec 31, 2016 at 10:20 pm

      Recycled into toilet paper so ‘allah’ can kiss your sweet ass as he/it is sent “by by” down the loo!

  15. Scott says

    Dec 31, 2016 at 11:34 pm

    This whole thing about disposing of a Qur’an is absurd. The Qur’an was compiled several years after Muhammad’s death, therefore there is NOTHING in either the Qur’an or the hadiths about how dispose of a copy.

    What’s I’d propose is to pack them in large crates that would also have incindary charges set to detonate on impact with the ground, load into a cargo plane where you can open a large hatch and have them parachute over Raqqa. Think ISIS might appreciate having a few more copies, and besides, they like burning (prisoners, churches, houses of infidels…)

  16. More Ham Ed says

    Jan 1, 2017 at 12:10 am

    Not every muslim (lowercase be upon them) is an extremist (yet) but the unholy ko ‘ran is 100% extreme – it’s a war guide, it contains NO OVERALL THEME to prove that the violent instructions are NOT for current-day followers.

    • No Fear says

      Jan 1, 2017 at 1:49 am

      Yes, I say that every copy of the Quran should have the “context” alongside every verse. Obviously the supposedly almighty Allah was totally incapable of producing a “revelation” which is contained within a suitable “context”. Every time I discuss a Quran verse with a muslim I am told that I do not understand the “context”. Where do i find the “context”? Not in the Quran but elsewhere! So effectively the Quran is deficient on its own and must be accompanied by other texts. So much for Allah being “all knowing” and wise. If I wrote a book like that I would be called stupid.

  17. JW_reader says

    Jan 1, 2017 at 12:12 am

    Top Ten things you Germans can do with those Korans:-
    10. Burn those Korans – that will keep some infidels warm in this cold winter.
    9. Use them as doormat to wipe your feet when you return home on a rainy day.
    8. Make them as Bench – so people can sit on them (their ass facing the koran).
    7. Send few copies to the Pope – let him see for himself what the RoP about.
    6. Use them as Tissues when you have really runny nose.
    5. Practice drawing cartoons of Mohamed on the margins as side notes in all the pages.
    4. Cut some pocket out in the inside of the Koran and smuggle crack in those pockets
    to the Islamic State.
    3. Send some to Jordan Denari, so that she can use the pages as sanitary napkin and save a bundle.
    2. Those Koran pages can be made in to nice diapers for newborn babies.
    1. Send me some Koran. I am out of Toilet Papers here.

  18. Xero_G says

    Jan 1, 2017 at 12:39 am

    If these Korans are unacceptable, then does that imply that some Korans actually ARE acceptable?
    The German govt. should specify exactly why these Korans are inciting hate and show how other Korans are not (an impossible task to be sure).

  19. Mark A says

    Jan 1, 2017 at 12:54 am

    Would this be an issue if the book in question was a banned translation of the Bible or the Torah?

    I don’t think so. If this case involved Bibles or the Torah, the books would be heading to the nearest recycling depot.

    Enough with the double standards for Islam and Muslims.

  20. Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY) says

    Jan 1, 2017 at 12:55 am

    The post-Weimar German government is notorious for banning books it disapproves of. It has banned the work “Mein Kampf” by the watercolorist A. Hitler, as well as his sequel “Mein Trumpf” (English title “The Art of the Deal”). Regarding this latest banned book, it is suggested that “the only option may be to bury the whole lot in the desert.” Which deserts in Germany are being proposed for this literary burial site?

  21. No Fear says

    Jan 1, 2017 at 1:32 am

    How is the “fundamentalist” version of the Quran any different to the “moderate” version of the Quran?
    I would love to know!

    • Keith Gilbert says

      Jan 1, 2017 at 7:48 am

      There is only one Q’ran no matter what language it is in…and they are all an evil pile of shit.

  22. ibrahim itace muhammed says

    Jan 1, 2017 at 1:45 am

    why not burn evil mithraist bible(the book of genocide and pornography)and obnoxious talmud inspired by the devil in the form of pagan mithraism and yahwe idol of old.these two evil books, bible and talmud, are the factors of all disasters,barbarity and savagery.they teach people to believe that god commands that a particular race be erased for another to settle as in samuel 15:3.the evil books also teach people to close their eyes to colonise them so as to steal their resources.again, the books teach people to appear naked and have indiscriminate sex like pigs and donkeys and have sex with beasts. thus, evil bible and evil talmud should rather be thrown away as rubbish into excrements.

    • trish says

      Jan 1, 2017 at 4:03 am

      Ibby

      At it again are you? Sort of hoped you’d choked on your vile hatred at the sight of the successful celebration of millions all over the world at Christmas..
      Oh well Easter will soon be here.

      In the meantime, oh learned one (not!) give me ONE direct quote from the Christian Bible, the New Testament, where Jesus teaches public nakedness, or sex with beasts.

      Islam, however, says that if a woman has sex with an animal, she and the animal should both be killed. If a man has sex with an animal he owns, that’s OK as long as he kills the animal after and it’s OK for him to sell its meat, but not in his own village. Not necessarily in the Koran, but definitely in the hadith, sunnah or whatever. Give me a day or so and I can give you the exact reference. So don’t even bother with the good old weasel muslim excuse that I’ve made it up or it’s been mistranslated or quoted out of context. Muslims are told they can lie, if it serves the purpose of islam; it’s called TAQUIYA and most people on this site are wise to it.

      BTW you haven’t apparently realised from my user name that I am a woman. What odds, if you reply that you will use words like whore, slut or prostitute to describe me. Feel free, but my husband of 48 years, 4 children and 16 grandchildren might take issue with you.

    • efoc says

      Jan 1, 2017 at 4:20 am

      Pure projection from a typical Muslim, gleefully hating other religions yet not seeing the evil contained within his own ideology. Brainwashed as expected, inculcated on lies and deception from birth.

    • Real McCoy says

      Jan 1, 2017 at 9:54 pm

      IBRAHIM ITACE MOHAMMED. You said, the book teach people to appear naked and have indiscriminate sex like pigs and donkeys and have sex with beasts?. I WILL CHALLANGE YOU IF YOU SHOW WHERE IN THE BIBLE IS MENTION THIS?.

    • gravenimage says

      Jan 2, 2017 at 2:53 pm

      The appalling Muslim apologist ibrahim itace muhammed wrote:

      why (sic) not burn evil mithraist (sic) bible(the (sic) book of genocide and pornography)and obnoxious talmud (sic) inspired by the devil in the form of pagan mithraism (sic) and yahwe (sic) idol of old.these (sic) two evil books, bible and talmud, (sic) are the factors of all disasters,barbarity (sic) and savagery.
      ……………………………………….

      *Really*? This means muhammed is fine with all Jihad savagery, including the recent attack at the Reina Nightclub in Istanbul. Damn barbarian.

      And, of course–as I have noted dozens of times at this point–Mithraism has nothing to do with the Bible and the Talmud.

      More:

      they (sic) teach people to believe that god commands that a particular race be erased for another to settle as in samuel (sic) 15:3.the evil books also teach people to close their eyes to colonise them so as to steal their resources.
      ……………………………………….

      Nope, sorry. This was descriptive, not prescriptive–would that we could say that of the violence in the Qur’an and Hadith–and that perpetrated on the model of the “perfect man”, the vicious warlord “Prophet” Muhammed.

      And no one is stealing Muslim’s resources–in fact, without the technological innovations of the “filthy Infidels”, oil would be worthless, as it was for many centuries.

      More:

      again, (sic) the books teach people to appear naked and have indiscriminate sex like pigs and donkeys and have sex with beasts. thus, evil bible (sic) and evil talmud (sic) should rather be thrown away as rubbish into excrements (sic).
      ……………………………………….

      Of course, there are no such teachings in the Bible or the Talmud. Is muhammed dishonest or just extremely ignorant?

  23. davej says

    Jan 1, 2017 at 2:01 am

    Dude, only one religion is committing atrocities in 2016 and that is your sick Islam.

    Things are going to be different in 2017. Happy New Year.

  24. Rufolino says

    Jan 1, 2017 at 2:15 am

    The circumstantial details of this ludicrous story are irrelevant. What the story tells us, is that the German Government is frightened of the million Moslems it has invited into the country and that by implication the Government is not fully in charge -which is exactly what Islam wants.

  25. Michael Copeland says

    Jan 1, 2017 at 2:26 am

    When Caliph Uthman standardised the text of the Koran he had all the variant texts burnt.
    .

    • davej says

      Jan 1, 2017 at 4:42 am

      Aha. So there are precedents for burning outmoded texts Good.

      Perhaps it should be okay to burn any book, as a sign of public disapproval, since we have all the originals in perfect digital recordings anyway.

      Burning an actually evil book can be cathartic and symbolic. It is free speech by free action.

      The cultists can easily print more, and already have.

      • davej says

        Jan 1, 2017 at 4:54 am

        ETA: free non-violent action.

        Just to be clear, burning copies of a book is a non-violent act and only symbolic of burning the actual book.

        Would you want to murder someone who threw a bunch of old Bibles in the garbage can?

  26. ibrahim itace muhammed says

    Jan 1, 2017 at 4:54 am

    caroline the daughter of dirty pig,are you saying it was your dirty and bad smelly forefathers who created the soils in the west.whether you like it or not islam must be practiced in the west.who are you?are you not barbarians worshiping the devil you cloned as religion you said founded by jesus christ?.prophet isa alaihissalam has nothing to do with your mithraist paganism invented 325 years after his departure.bullshits,idiots,rascals,whores,prostitutes, rogues,beasts.you mean your evil bible, which tell father to dip his finger into his daughter’s vagina for her brother to have sex with her to taste if it like wine , is good?.the evil bible which never teach purification and circumcision for male that render women’s vaginas horribly bad smelly and foreskins full of maggots.the evil bible that teach you to lie? . evil bible whose prophecies never come true as in mathew where mithraist jesus predicted that this world will come to an during his generation; and people then standing infront of him will not taste death untill the time the world will come to an end.the prophecy failed and those people died for 2000 now and the world is still in existence.is that not enough proof that christianity is a lie inspired by the devil the father of liars?

    • efoc says

      Jan 1, 2017 at 5:15 am

      You speak about Caroline being begotten by a dirty pig yet it is you who has far less intelligence, compassion and humanity than any pig on this planet. And yes, I use the word ‘humanity’ very deliberately even with reference to a pig because at the end of the day, any pig has more genuine human qualities than whatever you are.

    • gravenimage says

      Jan 2, 2017 at 3:57 pm

      More from the appalling ibrahim itace muhammed, directed at Caroline:

      caroline (sic) the daughter of dirty pig,are (sic) you saying it was your dirty and bad smelly forefathers who created the soils in the west.
      ………………………………..

      Uh…what? Besides the vicious insult, I believe that the illiterate muhammed is saying that the West is not truly Western.

      More:

      whether (sic) you like it or not islam (sic) must be practiced in the west.
      ………………………………..

      What muhammed means is that Muslims must have carte blanche to rape and murder Infidels in the West. Why does he think this? Because Muslims believe they own the entire world.

      More:

      who (sic) are you?are (sic) you not barbarians worshiping the devil you cloned as religion you said founded by jesus (sic) christ?.prophet (sic) isa (sic) alaihissalam has nothing to do with your mithraist (sic) paganism invented 325 years after his departure.
      ………………………………..

      Well, muhammed is right that the vicious Muslim “Isa” has absolutely *nothing* to do with the Jesus of the Gospels.

      Meanwhile, muhammed continues to flog his idiocy about the Bible being “Mithraist”. Really, Mithraism has nothing to do with the Bible at all.

      Mithraist imagery had a small influence on early Christian artists, since there was little tradition of Jewish artistic imagery at the time. I wrote a paper on the subject at university. This is the sole extent of that cult’s influence on Christianity. Certainly, Mithraism has virtually no philosophical similarities with Judaism and Christianity, and Christian contact with that cult in Rome was long after the Bible–including the New Testament–had been written.

      But muhammed has been informed about this scores of times now, and has chosen to ignore it–either because he is incapable of understanding this, or because he has decided to keep spouting the same dishonest claptrap.

      Yet more:

      bullshits,idiots,rascals,whores,prostitutes, (sic) rogues,beasts.you (sic) mean your evil bible, (sic) which tell father to dip his finger into his daughter’s vagina for her brother to have sex with her to taste if it like (sic) wine , is good (sic)?
      ………………………………..

      Of course, there is no such passage in the Bible. muhammed has dishonestly continued to claim that there is, though.

      More:

      .the (sic) evil bible (sic) which never teach purification and circumcision for male that render women’s vaginas horribly bad smelly (sic) and foreskins full of maggots.
      ………………………………..

      muhammed has made this bizarre claim many times. Of course, Jewish people do practice circumcision–as do most Americans–but this makes no difference to him. And it has also been pointed out to him that standards of hygiene are far higher in the West than they are among Muslims, but he ignores this, as well.

      And maggots would not be the result of simple poor hygiene, in any case. It is clear that his ranting about maggots and “horribly bad smelly” are just that same as his ranting about “bullshits,idiots,rascals,whores,prostitutes, rogues,beasts”–just more unhinged insults against anyone who resists submission to the horror of Islam.

      More:

      the (sic) evil bible (sic) that teach (sic) you to lie? .
      ………………………………..

      Actually, no. It is quite clear in the Bible that honesty is a highly held value. Quite different from Islam, where the “Prophet” Muhammed allows Muslim to lie to get closer to their victims, and where the baleful Allah himself is described as “the best of deceivers”.

      More:

      evil (sic) bible (sic) whose prophecies never come true as in mathew (sic) where mithraist (sic) jesus (sic) predicted that this world will come to an during his generation; and people then standing infront (sic) of him will not taste death untill (sic) the time the world will come to an end.the (sic) prophecy failed and those people died for 2000 now (sic) and the world is still in existence.is (sic) that not enough proof that christianity (sic) is a lie inspired by the devil the father of liars?
      ………………………………..

      Not really. This is still the generation of Christians, and Christians do not believe they face any but material death if they are saved–this is what is meant by “eternal life”.

      But this is not really about the beliefs of Christians; muhammed hates all non-Muslims, and–much worse–believes that Muslims can slaughter us with impunity if we do not submit to his violent creed.

  27. f c king says

    Jan 1, 2017 at 5:02 am

    Shred them and use them for cat boxes, toilet paper, and diaper liners. Would work well in hampsters cages too. Maybe just tear the pages out, and drop them like confetti through out the muslom lands, and let them figure out what to do with it.

  28. ECAW says

    Jan 1, 2017 at 5:14 am

    This is curious. I would like to know just which translation it is. There is the Hilali-Khan translation, commissioned by the Saudi government and spread throughout out the world via all those Saudi paid for mosques, and known as the Wahhabi Koran:

    http://www.noblequran.com/translation/index.html

    If this new one is worse than that then it must be a pretty interesting read.

    • linnte says

      Jan 1, 2017 at 4:47 pm

      This is the first Qur’an I read, until I got my Mawdudi hard copy. It’s language is stronger than Mawdudi. This is one that I share for people who want to read it on line.

  29. mortimer says

    Jan 1, 2017 at 6:56 am

    The Koran should be banned in countries with HATE SPEECH laws. The Koran is filled with rants against the dirty kufaar and calls for Muslims to treat them violently. That is the definition of hate speech.

    The Koran should be dragged into court and condemned.

    • Marty says

      Jan 1, 2017 at 6:59 am

      In the UK the Prime Minister Gladstone waved a koran in Parliament.
      He declared “There will be no peace in the World while this book is in circulation”.

  30. Ade says

    Jan 1, 2017 at 7:13 am

    Sounds like it is a translation rather than a watered down “interpretation”
    Probably no worse than any other translation
    Burn every edition

    • carol says

      Jan 1, 2017 at 10:23 pm

      You worry this is propagandizing that there is a “kinder, gentler Islam and Koran out there”.

      And whenever I hear pigs being insulted I’m reminded of an old lady who grew up on a poor, northern Ontario farm. The parents seemed apathetic to their own few children. “All I remember,” this old woman said to me,”was sitting out by a stream, day after day, all alone – but the two pigs we had would come out and sit with me”. This women never in her life ate any pork, and you can be assured it wasn’t out of hatred or contempt.

  31. peter weber says

    Jan 1, 2017 at 8:28 am

    The German government said that the Qurans must be “buried” and not burned because of Sharia law. This means that Sharia law is the “law” of Germany. Germany is an islamic country now …

  32. Florida Jim says

    Jan 1, 2017 at 9:55 am

    If you show fear Islam will take over the world demand they leave NOW! Wherever muslims go this eventually happens why not wake up and send them home to their mid-east hellholes created by them for each other.

    • Keith Gilbert says

      Jan 1, 2017 at 11:16 am

      Death is the islamics only reward, it is what they, all of them, seek…and it is the greatest unkindness to deny them this one element of their ‘faith’ that they share so broadly with all others.

  33. Anne says

    Jan 1, 2017 at 10:25 am

    I wonder if this version of the Koran also translates “slave” of the original Arabic into the deceptive “handmaiden.”

    • carol says

      Jan 1, 2017 at 10:48 pm

      How seemingly kind…in word, if not in deed.

  34. Robert_k says

    Jan 1, 2017 at 1:17 pm

    The German lies for read would be an appropriate spelling for the real content of those Qurans in the English connotation – lies (falsehoods).

  35. Germanistan says

    Jan 1, 2017 at 2:01 pm

    This Idiots knew nothing-this Version is one of the more harmless and use the 99% or more the same translation that the Ahmadyyas use-and now came the big joke-the Ahmadyyas are always called as mooderate and peacefull muslims in germany by politicians and press!

    ofcourse this is all a joke.1st this law is only for muslims and 2nd its not a Quran-its an translation-this say even the organizer of the LIES(READ)organization.

  36. August West says

    Jan 1, 2017 at 2:23 pm

    Some German authority should be held accountable to explain exactly why this version of the Koran is not the actual Koran before they destroy them.

    1)Has the original source been approved by an authority such as Al Hazar?
    2)Has the translation of the Arabic source text been approved by Al Hazar as being authentic to the original?

    If the answer is no to these two questions then
    3)What is the variance between this Koran and translations that are approved? For example, what does this version say for 9-5 or 9-29 or 8-60 or other key verses.
    4)Why hasn’t Al Hazar (or some other body) issued a Fatwa declaring these texts to be non authentic and blasphemous?

    Destroying the books is probably a fruitless exercise as they can be easily re-printed and also distributed electronically. Also the Al Hazar approved Koran has more than enough incitement in it. I can’t imagine this version could be much worse.

    My guess is that there is no material difference between these versions of the Koran and what anybody can easily read online.

    The most likely explanation is that the Korans are standard and approved, so the German authorities want to destroy them before anybody figures this out.

    • linnte says

      Jan 1, 2017 at 4:56 pm

      That’s what I’d like to know! What do Islamic Scholars say about this Qur’an? My guess is, someone in the German Government read this version, and only this version, and was appalled! So it needed to be banned. Someone needs to send as many different translations of Qur’an they can get their hands on, to the German Government. Once read, they will FINALLY see that the whole Ideology of Islam is the problem, not just the book.

      • gravenimage says

        Jan 2, 2017 at 4:03 pm

        You may be right, Linnte.

  37. shoehorn says

    Jan 1, 2017 at 4:08 pm

    They banned a fundamentalist translation of the Koran that promotes religious hatred? What, like ‘fight those who believe not in Allah’?

  38. Colin Henderson says

    Jan 1, 2017 at 5:48 pm

    Could be “fake news” because in the picture the Qur’an is being held by the left hand, which is not allowed.

  39. davej says

    Jan 1, 2017 at 9:24 pm

    Repackage and market as “Christian firewood”?

  40. gravenimage says

    Jan 1, 2017 at 11:35 pm

    Germany banned version of Qur’an as “extremist,” but afraid to dispose of copies
    …………………

    More proof that German authorities understand that Muslims embrace “extremism” as holy in Islam.

    • linnte says

      Jan 2, 2017 at 12:51 am

      Yes indeed Gravenimage!

      • gravenimage says

        Jan 2, 2017 at 4:35 pm

        Happy New Year to you, Linnte!

  41. Vlad says

    Jan 2, 2017 at 4:51 pm

    I’d have a great pit dug up, deposits those unholy shit books into them, poor pig fat on top and burn them.

  42. Krag says

    Jan 2, 2017 at 7:34 pm

    I understand Etna is an active volcano.

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