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Italian girl converts to Islam, joins the Islamic State: “I can’t wait to die as a martyr”

Dec 21, 2016 5:21 pm By Robert Spencer

She had to be convicted in absentia of aiding terrorists because she isn’t in Italy; she is in the Islamic State. Yet another convert to Islam gets the idea that her new religion, which all Western non-Muslim authorities insist is peaceful, commands her to commit treason and mass murder. Authorities remain resolutely uninterested in this phenomenon.

“Italian Muslim convert found guilty of helping Islamic State,” by Manuela d’Alessandro, Reuters, December 19, 2016:

An Italian woman who traveled to Syria two years ago proclaiming her support for Islamic State was sentenced in absentia on Monday to nine years in jail on terrorism-related charges, a court ruled.

Maria Giulia Sergio, 29, converted to Islam in 2007 and moved to Syria with her Albanian-born husband in 2014. She later urged her parents and sister to join them and sign up to the ‘jihad’ or holy war announced by Islamic State rulers.

“Dad, drag mum here by the hair. She doesn’t have the right to any opinions,” she said in a call home that was tapped by police. “I can’t wait to die as a martyr,” she said in another call, predicting that the holy war would one day reach Rome.

Her parents and sister began to sell their possessions after agreeing to move to Syria too. But they were arrested in 2015 and prevented from leaving Italy.

Maria Giulia was found guilty of international terrorism and organizing trips to facilitate terrorism.

The father was sentenced to four years in jail on Monday after being convicted of aiding terrorists. The sister was tried earlier this year and sentenced to five years, four months in prison. The mother died of a heart attack shortly after her arrest in 2015.

Maria Giulia’s husband, Aldo Kobuzi, was given a 10-year term. He is believed to be still in Syria with his wife, but nothing has been heard from them in more than a year….

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  1. Champ says

    Dec 21, 2016 at 5:24 pm

    What a foolish choice …wow she’s chosen a pack of evil lies!

    • Saleem Smith says

      Dec 21, 2016 at 10:56 pm

      An evil pack of lies indeed, Champ.

      We ex-Muslims living with Islam’s formal and informal death penalty for apostasy know that the Quran and Muhammad’s Sunnah are overflowing with deadly misogyny. Muslim men are even allowed to marry 6 year old children because Muhammad the prophet of Islam at the age of 54 married 6 year old Aisha and consummated their marriage when she reached the age of 9.

      Hadith, Sahih Bukhari, Vol. 7, Book 62, No. 88:

      ‘Narrated Ursa: The prophet wrote the [marriage contract] with Aisha while she was six years old and consummated his marriage with her while she was nine years old and she remained with him for nine years (i.e.’ til his death).’

      Quran 033:021:

      ‘There is a good example in God’s apostle for those of you who look to God and the Last Day and remember God always.’

      >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

      Should Women Respect Muhammad and His Islam?

      Muslims love to claim that Islam has granted women equal rights. Sadly, this is not true. The Quran states several times that women are to be granted less rights then those enjoyed by men.

      This article will examine the status of women and their rights according to Islam, as well as some of the many disgusting things that Muhammad said regarding women.

      The inherent oppression and degradation of women in Islam is abhorrent. For every good thing Muhammad’s Islam says about women, one can easily find a passage referring to women in the most unkindly of lights. Such is the reality of the fundamentally contradictory religion of Islam. One minute Islam is the perfect religion of peace and justice – the next it commands Muslims to maim, murder and subjugate others. Muslim women should learn the truth about Islam, and fast, if they truly care about their daughters and the future of women in general.

      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

      In controversial verse 4:34 of the Quran, men are told to beat their disobedient wives after first warning them and then sending them to sleep in separate beds. This horrendous verse approves of and even sanctions, domestic abuse. As we shall see momentarily, Islamic theology also permits slavery and rape. Islam is nothing more than the cult of a long dead, selfish little mad man named Muhammad ibn Abdullah.

      Quran 004:034:

      ‘Men have authority over women because God has made the one superior to the other, and because they spend their wealth to maintain them. Good women are obedient. They guard their unseen parts because God has guarded them. As for those from whom you fear disobedience, admonish them and send them to beds apart and beat them. Then if they obey you, take no further action against them. Surely God is high, supreme.’

      Here is an examination of how other translators render this controversial passage:

      Pickthall: “and scourge them”
      Yusuf Ali: “(And last) beat them (lightly)”
      Al-Hilali/Khan: “(and last) beat them (lightly, if it is useful)”
      Shakir: “and beat them”
      Sher Ali: “and chastise them”
      Khalifa: “then you may (as a last alternative) beat them”
      Arberry: “and beat them”
      Rodwell: “and scourge them”
      Sale: “and chastise them”
      Asad: “then beat them”

      Hadith, Sunan Abu-Dawud, Book 11, Number 2142:

      Narrated Umar ibn al-Khattab:
      The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: A man will not be asked as to why he beat his wife.

      The Quran permits Muslim men to marry up to four wives, and have sex with slave girls if they want to do so:

      004:003: “If ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly with the orphans, marry women of your choice, two or three or four; but if ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly (with them), then only one, or (a captive) that your right hands possess, that will be more suitable, to prevent you from doing injustice”

      The Quran compares women to a field (tilth) that a man is free to use when, and as he chooses:

      002.223: Your wives are as a tilth unto you; so approach your tilth when or how ye will; but do some good act for your souls beforehand; and fear Allah. And know that ye are to meet Him (in the Hereafter), and give (these) good tidings to those who believe.

      According to Muhammad and his Islam, a woman’s testimony is worth half that of a man’s:

      Quran 002:282: Get two witnesses, out of your own men, and if there are not two men, then a man and two women, such as ye choose, for witnesses, so that if one of them errs, the other can remind her

      Sahih Bukhari, Vol 1, Book 6, No. 301:

      Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri: Once Allah’s Apostle went out to the Musalla (to offer the prayer) o ‘Id-al-Adha or Al-Fitr prayer. Then he passed by the women and said, “O women! Give alms, as I have seen that the majority of the dwellers of Hell-fire were you (women).” They asked, “Why is it so, O Allah’s Apostle ?” He replied, “You curse frequently and are ungrateful to your husbands. I have not seen anyone more deficient in intelligence and religion than you. A cautious sensible man could be led astray by some of you.” The women asked, “O Allah’s Apostle! What is deficient in our intelligence and religion?” He said, “Is not the evidence of two women equal to the witness of one man?” They replied in the affirmative. He said, “This is the deficiency in her intelligence. Isn’t it true that a woman can neither pray nor fast during her menses?” The women replied in the affirmative. He said, “This is the deficiency in her religion.”

      The Quran allows men to marry pre-pubescent girls, stipulating that Islamic divorce procedures shall apply to those who have not yet menstruated.

      065.004: Such of your women as have passed the age of monthly courses, for them the prescribed period, if ye have any doubts, is three months, and for those who have no courses (it is the same): for those who carry (life within their wombs), their period is until they deliver their burdens: and for those who fear Allah, He will make their path easy.

      Muhammad the prophet of Islam was a deranged con man who has betrayed women. Here is some more of what Muhammad said and did:

      Hadith, Sahih Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 54, Number 460:

      Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah’s Apostle said, “If a husband calls his wife to his bed (i.e. to have sexual relation) and she refuses and causes him to sleep in anger, the angels will curse her till morning.”

      Hadith, Sahih Muslim, Book 008, Number 3371:

      Abu Sirma said to Abu Sa’id al Khadri (Allah he pleased with him): 0 Abu Sa’id, did you hear Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) mentioning al-‘azl? He said: Yes, and added: We went out with Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) on the expedition to the Bi’l-Mustaliq and took captive some excellent Arab women; and we desired them, for we were suffering from the absence of our wives, (but at the same time) we also desired ransom for them. So we decided to have sexual intercourse with them but by observing ‘azl (Withdrawing the male sexual organ before emission of semen to avoid-conception). But we said: We are doing an act whereas Allah’s Messenger is amongst us; why not ask him? So we asked Allah’s Mes- senger (may peace be upon him), and he said: It does not matter if you do not do it, for every soul that is to be born up to the Day of Resurrection will be born.

      “By him in Whose Hand lies my life, a woman can not carry out the right of her Lord, till she carries out the right of her husband. And if he asks her to surrender herself [to him for sexual intercourse] she should not refuse him even if she is on a camel’s saddle.” — Ibn Majah 1854

      https://quran.com/

      • Champ says

        Dec 22, 2016 at 2:40 am

        Bravo, Saleem! Great comment and very thorough.

    • maghan says

      Dec 22, 2016 at 2:18 am

      Another serious candidate for a “Darwin Award”. The important scientific question here is what were the external stimuli that caused her neurons to short-circuit and explode within her brain.

      The imbecile even said that her mother has no right to her opinions. Further proof of certifiable lunacy.

    • Tom says

      Dec 22, 2016 at 10:13 am

      A lost soul, that was probably abused sexually by a family member and this is her method of retaliation. Remember, nothing is as it appears.

      • D. Lange says

        Dec 22, 2016 at 11:28 pm

        You’re right; she COULD have been abused as a child. Yet, blaming her family life or other circumstances is just as ridiculous and unwarranted as Sharia Law itself. You’re assuming a great deal that you know nothing about. Instead, stop blaming other people and other things for her stupid decision. She was in her middle thirties and fully responsible for herself. Society has become a breeding ground for shifting blame for any circumstance or decision onto others and unfortunately your comment is proof of it. Its way past time for people to step up and grow up! Be responsible!!

    • beaubear says

      Dec 22, 2016 at 1:51 pm

      where do these women think they’ll spend eternity? it hell that is where. By allowing yourself to be part
      of this, you reject Christ and wanting to die as a martyr isn’t what you die from , You die as a murderer. she wants to know a real martyr? look up Asa Bibi, sentenced to death for telling women co workers about Jesus. that , woman will spend eternity w/ Christ . this stupid girl, Satan

  2. davej says

    Dec 21, 2016 at 5:33 pm

    Her devolution into a she-devil.

    Where is she now, no one knows. Will probably pop up/blow up somewhere soon.

  3. Stephanie says

    Dec 21, 2016 at 5:40 pm

    “… that he (she) may be martyred ten times because of the DIGNITY he receives (from Allah).”

    https://sunnah.com/bukhari/56/33-35

    • Stephanie says

      Dec 21, 2016 at 5:42 pm

      quran.com/2/216 http://quran.com/4/76 ‘… So fight against the allies of Satan.’ (‘who disbelieve’) quran.com/8/39 quran.com/9/29-33 which fulfills in http://quran.com/9/111 ‘kill and are killed … great attainment.’

    • skep says

      Dec 21, 2016 at 5:46 pm

      allah doesn’t give a damn about her, even if he exists.

      • Stephanie says

        Dec 21, 2016 at 5:57 pm

        ✅

  4. gravenimage says

    Dec 21, 2016 at 5:43 pm

    Italian girl converts to Islam, joins the Islamic State: “I can’t wait to die as a martyr”
    ……………………….

    Evil b*tch.

    • David M says

      Dec 21, 2016 at 6:32 pm

      This is Darwin’s Natural Selection at work, survival of the fittest, the dumbest of the dumb are killed off or get themselves killed.

      • Oliver says

        Dec 21, 2016 at 7:29 pm

        But not soon enough. And often they procreate

      • gravenimage says

        Dec 21, 2016 at 9:19 pm

        She isn’t just “dumb”–this would be true if she cluelessly thought Islam was a “religion of peace”. Instead, she is off to join the Islamic State and die while murdering other people.

        I can forgive dumb–I can’t forgive evil.

        • Cecilia Ellis says

          Dec 21, 2016 at 9:46 pm

          “I can forgive dumb–I can’t forgive evil.”

          Well said, Graven. Maria Sergio heard the call of evil and answered “yes” to that call. Inherent in her desire to become a martyr was the understanding that she would have to kill others and would have to be killed while doing so. To her, the victims’ genders or ages would have made no difference. She welcomed evil into her heart and provided it a dwelling place … a putrid abyss. She is accountable for her free-will actions.

        • gravenimage says

          Dec 22, 2016 at 3:48 pm

          Exactly, Cecilia. “Martyrdom” in Islam is all about murdering other people. *Ugh*.

    • Mirren10 says

      Dec 22, 2016 at 9:38 am

      I remember this evil bint from last year.

      Italian convert to Islam: “When we behead someone, we’re obeying …
      https://www.jihadwatch.org/…/italian-convert-to-islam-when-we-behead- someone-were-obeying-sharia-law

      It’s good her family have been arrested, and it seems hubby is dead. Let’s hope she’s next.

      • Mirren10 says

        Dec 22, 2016 at 9:41 am

        Bother. That didn’t work. (copied/pasted from search box instead of article itself).

        Try this.

        https://www.jihadwatch.org/2015/07/italian-convert-to-islam-when-we-behead-someone-were-obeying-sharia-law

      • Mirren10 says

        Dec 22, 2016 at 9:47 am

        ” … seems hubby is dead.”

        No. My mistake. But let’s hope he is, and she’s next.

      • gravenimage says

        Dec 22, 2016 at 3:52 pm

        Thanks for the information, Mirren.

  5. somehistory says

    Dec 21, 2016 at 5:43 pm

    “Young people” sometimes have watched too many movie people, and television people “die” and then show up someplace else the next week or month.
    She doesn’t really know what death is all about, and when she finds out, she’ll wish she hadn’t.
    And why does she think her mom doesn’t deserve a *choice* when she has made so many for herself? What the wild beast from satan does to people is evil and makes those people evil in return.

    • Champ says

      Dec 21, 2016 at 5:53 pm

      Indeed, Somehistory! …and like all mohammedans she, too, has chosen most unwisely.

    • gravenimage says

      Dec 21, 2016 at 9:24 pm

      Somehistory, Maria Sergio is *twenty-nine years old*. She isn’t some little kid who doesn’t grasp what she’s getting into.

      • somehistory says

        Dec 21, 2016 at 10:08 pm

        I know her age, but that doesn’t mean she is mature. And many people get their *education* from fantasy lives of people on tv and in the movies.

        I studied why kids commit suicide. One of the things that doctors have learned about that is, they don’t really expect it to be permanent when they take their life. They see on the screen that people “die” and come back days, weeks, months later and look the same. It doesn’t really register in their immature minds that if they commit suicide, it will not be the same way for them.

        islam is a foul, evil demonic teaching, but it also takes away from a person’s ability to THINK clearly. She isn’t thinking clearly, and the simple fact that she said her father should grab her mom by the hair and force her…that her mom doesn’t have the right to make choices for herself, while she herself is making choices that have drastically reduced her life choices…and she cannot see that this is insane, illogical, stupid.

        She may be nearly thirty, but she may as well be fifteen or fifty…she has joined and that shows her lack of good judgment and common sense.

        • gravenimage says

          Dec 22, 2016 at 3:54 pm

          True–I doubt that anyone who converts to Islam–save maybe some who do it out of desperation at sword-point–are ever even vaguely mature.

    • maghan says

      Dec 22, 2016 at 2:33 am

      No, her choices were/are her husband’s choices. According to the Qur’an females are inferior to males. Why? Allah created them that way. In Islam the male is like a male lion.

      Ideally, he should call all the shots and the ideal Muslim wife must obey.

  6. Wellington says

    Dec 21, 2016 at 5:53 pm

    She can’t wait to die as a martyr? What, so she can be served up as one of 72 virgins for those oh so masculine Muslim males?

    Oh my God, the same old Islamic shit. Seems like her whole family, and not just her, are losers too. Something went wrong with this family long ago. Not sure of the specific wrong or wrongs but am sure that this is one totally effed-up family.

    Telling and damning again how Islam attracts miscreants and losers of all sorts. As here. How pathetic, but also how so very much Islamic.

    There’s seemingly no end to the stupidity and heinousness of Islam. I’m talking a bottomless pit here.

    • eduardo odraude says

      Dec 21, 2016 at 6:37 pm

      It also attracts sadists and pathological killers (as you know).

      • My Opinion says

        Dec 21, 2016 at 9:06 pm

        And peodophiles…

  7. Damocles Junior says

    Dec 21, 2016 at 5:55 pm

    Perhaps this silly young girl may soon get a reality check, she may be required to become the 3rd wife of some horrid bloated elderly Muslim male, be totally under the dominance of her mother-in-law and be made to look after a large number of children in a primitive apartment. If that were to happen I would imagine that a martyrdom mission would be the quickest way of escape for her.

    • Mirren10 says

      Dec 22, 2016 at 9:50 am

      I wouldn’t describe a 29 year old as a ”silly young girl.”

      The sooner this vicious bint achieves her wish the better.

  8. abad says

    Dec 21, 2016 at 6:07 pm

    And I know a woman in Italy whose daughter, much to her chagrin, met up with some Muslim guy and married him.

    As for Maria Giulia Sergio: Honey you have officially joined The Dark Side, aka Satanism. Had you wanted to do something meaningful with your life at the tender age of 29, you’d be volunteering in a soup kitchen or helping people with disabilities.

  9. reyol says

    Dec 21, 2016 at 6:25 pm

    Women are instinctively attracted to the winning side. Italian women are starting to see their own men as weak. They certainly appear so when they stand around impotently while the migrants do whatever they want. The Italian men in the military and the Italian men in the carabanieri have orders to protect the invaders from the natives. If an Italian woman doesn’t want to have an interesting career in the previously male occupations and actually wants to have a family and children, why would she want to have powerless and doomed Italian children? On the other hand, the Mohammedan invaders are arrogant, confident and have dominant male status automatically conferred by Islam. That makes them attractive to certain women among us (I hope it isn’t a high percentage). Women don’t want to be in a weak and losing group. They can only tolerate this for so long: then you’ll see more and more of them going over to the winning side.

    • lagitane says

      Dec 21, 2016 at 7:18 pm

      Those migrant males are illiterate welfare bums who could never compete with an educated native born Italian. The ball started rolling with the Muslim husband from Albania and the rest of the family are right out a poorly done Lifetime movie. Notice she darkened her skin to look the part; these people must all need an adrenaline rush.

      • Damocles Junior says

        Dec 21, 2016 at 8:06 pm

        To lagitane & reyol; Both of these comments have very strong elements of truth in them.

        Many Western women secretly want to be connected to men who appear to be men, some, and I repeat some Muslim males do fit this description.This does happen here in Australia, but, there were many horror stories published in the trashy women’s’ magazines about the disastrous result of Aussie girls marrying these Islamic husbands, basically expected to be sex slaves, dominated by mother-in-law and passport confiscated if they moved back to Lebanon. And when these women finally came to their senses and/or escaped the most common comment was ; “But he seemed just so Westernised…”

        Back in the early days of the Muslim influx into Australia, I, even I for a brief moment of time applauded the Muslim stand against feminist tripe being taught in our schools. This did not last long, they now have their own system of Islamic Schools, taxpayer subsidised. (But note many principals are in trouble for rorting the system)

        As for the comment about most of them being illiterate welfare recipients, this is very noticeable, they seem to have low IQ, lack of cognitive logic and are quite often wimps.

        While JW is not a forum to discuss feminism, the many evils of this philosophy help aggravate situations such as this, quite simply, Western men are no longer allowed to be real men and and women are effectively encouraged to do all the traditionally male things.. And because so many Western women are encouraged to do everything else except have a baby the Muslim community will make up for this by having their mandatory 10 children, we are really in serious trouble.

        • Oliver says

          Dec 21, 2016 at 10:53 pm

          D. Jr
          I am a hetro male. But in the past. Like late 1980’s through early 1990s I haf dpme dealings with male Muslims. All business and financial. I found. Math was instantly done mentally. They would cheat for a dime. And. Being crude. They were pussy whipped by any blonde female. They were like a 14 year old looking at double x porn..

          Znd. Sexually. They were perverts. Trying to get pre and early teen blond girls in bed.

          One got blown away. Another tried to pick up the 14 or 13 year old of a law enforcement official. He went to prison. Had a hanging judge. He did not get the girl. But did have loafs of dope. Got hom on that.other Muslim men i knew would cheat their mother for a dollar. Horrible people

    • gravenimage says

      Dec 21, 2016 at 9:34 pm

      reyol wrote:

      Women are instinctively attracted to the winning side…If an Italian woman doesn’t want to have an interesting career in the previously male occupations and actually wants to have a family and children, why would she want to have powerless and doomed Italian children?…Women don’t want to be in a weak and losing group. They can only tolerate this for so long: then you’ll see more and more of them going over to the winning side.
      ………………………..

      Good lord. I’ve heard this from a number of other posters, who use the Counter-Jihad as a platform for their hatred of women.

      How do you explain all of the staunch Anti-Jihadists who happen to be female, like Pamela Geller, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, and Bridgitte Gabriel? How do you explain all of the female Anti-Jihadists here at Jihad Watch, including contributor Christine Williams?

      To think we are all ready to roll over–literally and figuratively–for the first “virile” unwashed Muslim rapist is nothing but calumny.

      There are idiots like this woman–but there are idiot male converts to Islam, as well. Women are not cornering the market on evil and stupidity here.

      • Truth 101 says

        Dec 21, 2016 at 9:47 pm

        “How do you explain all of the staunch Anti-Jihadists who happen to be female, like Pamela Geller, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, and Bridgitte Gabriel? How do you explain all of the female Anti-Jihadists here at Jihad Watch, including contributor Christine Williams?”

        Incredibly stupid question.

        • Champ says

          Dec 21, 2016 at 10:06 pm

          Graven’s question is anything but “stupid”, and it’s quite fitting in response to what reyol wrote.

        • Cecilia Ellis says

          Dec 21, 2016 at 10:18 pm

          No, Truth 101, Graven’s question was not “incredibly stupid”; however, the original statement posted by “reyol” appears to merit that description.

        • gravenimage says

          Dec 22, 2016 at 3:59 pm

          How is it “stupid”? If as reyol says, “women are instinctively attracted to the winning side…women don’t want to be in a weak and losing group. They can only tolerate this for so long…” then the existence of strong, principled women like the ones I noted above–and women like Champ and Cecilia and myself–should be utterly impossible.

      • reyol says

        Dec 22, 2016 at 6:15 pm

        You announce confidently that I am a woman hater. Not at all! Clearly, some women are attracted to Mohammedans – not all and not even most of them but clearly some. Most do not act on any attraction to the up and coming out-group. Especially if they are invested in the current system.

        Why would any woman ever, ever convert to Islam? I know why men do it but why do women do it? Islam is a raw deal for women. And yet, Maria Sergio seems to be elated with Islam. Can a strong, principled woman such as yourself explain it?

        • gravenimage says

          Dec 23, 2016 at 9:29 pm

          reyol wrote:

          You announce confidently that I am a woman hater. Not at all!
          …………………………….

          I’ve seen that video before. It holds that women are incapable of independent thought, and that they should not be allowed to receive an education or to have the vote. You may not feel that this indicates hatred of women; I can only conclude that we do not use words in the same manner.

          More:

          Clearly, some women are attracted to Mohammedans – not all and not even most of them but clearly some.
          …………………………….

          Sure there are–just, as I noted, there are women disgustingly attracted to serial killers. They are a psychically messed up minority–why would anyone suggest that women have their rights stripped from them for this reason?

          There are, in fact, many more men involved in waging violent Jihad than there are women–including converts to Islam. I would never as a result suggest that all men be prevented from participating in society for this reason.

          More:

          Why would any woman ever, ever convert to Islam? I know why men do it but why do women do it? Islam is a raw deal for women. And yet, Maria Sergio seems to be elated with Islam. Can a strong, principled woman such as yourself explain it?
          …………………………….

          Sure, I can. Some women are incredibly stupid, and some are just evil. Just like men.

          I would no more consider being able to rape women and little boys and to “marry” school girls and being pressured to “Honor Kill” my loved ones and slaughter unbelievers enticing than I would be to have my clitoris cut out, having to marry some disgusting old pedophile while still a child, seeing my daughter being sold into marriage or my son used as a suicide bomber, and to risk being “Honor Killed” if I were to resist any of these horrors.

          Maybe that’s just me, though…

  10. Janwaar Bibi says

    Dec 21, 2016 at 6:33 pm

    I don’t see a problem. They want to die for Allah, we have the means to get them there. We should get on with it.

    • Champ says

      Dec 21, 2016 at 7:08 pm

      The problem is that dying for allah involves taking the lives of innocent victims: oftentimes they are non-muslims.

      • Oliver says

        Dec 21, 2016 at 7:59 pm

        If she can take some Hezbollah terrorists with her. Be great.

      • gravenimage says

        Dec 23, 2016 at 10:02 pm

        Very true, Champ.

    • Mo says

      Dec 21, 2016 at 8:38 pm

      @ Janwaar Bibi

      “I don’t see a problem. They want to die for Allah, we have the means to get them there. We should get on with it.”

      If they want to do that to themselves, it’s tragic but it’s their choice. The problem is they don’t just destroy themselves. They destroy other people’s lives and families along with them!

  11. eduardo odraude says

    Dec 21, 2016 at 6:35 pm

    Her path says: “I’m a naive baby, or very stupid, or an evil slug (or perhaps a mixture of all three).”

  12. RationalVoice says

    Dec 21, 2016 at 7:19 pm

    How gullible and stupid many humans are. I reckon anyone could get 50 followers fairly quickly to believe in the great Spaghetti God or anything else if one spoke with enough passion and claimed miracles and prophecies. Women are even more vulnerable as they are programmed to follow “alpha male” characters even if they threaten and disrespect them..Many years ago I knew this pretty white English girl who doted on this Muslim Pakistani bloke even though he tried to use her and other white English girls as prostitutes.
    You just can’t account for human nature so they have to learn the hard way if they survive at all !!!

    • Oliver says

      Dec 21, 2016 at 7:53 pm

      Do you mean the Great Speghetti God does not exist
      I am. Shocked. Meant as humor slash sarc. Liked the post
      Found it was interesting and good points

    • gravenimage says

      Dec 21, 2016 at 9:39 pm

      Women are even more vulnerable as they are programmed to follow “alpha male” characters even if they threaten and disrespect them..
      ……………………….

      Why are there so many witless misogynists at JW of late? You know who else hates and despises women? That would be Muslims.

      • Truth 101 says

        Dec 21, 2016 at 9:50 pm

        Recognizing sex differences doesn’t make you a misogynist. It just means you’re not a brain-dead feminist who has bought into the tripe that the sexes are exactly the same.

        The Muslims are wrong. The feminists are wrong. The truth is somewhere in-between.

        • marsfeld says

          Dec 21, 2016 at 11:17 pm

          Biological sex differences do exist indeed, no question about it. But making your mind about that up by indulging in all the MGTOW etc. bs out there in the internet, this wannabe-scientifical crap, tailor-made for freshly-divorced frustated middle agers doesn’t really make you an expert on all of this either.

          There is real science out there about sex differences and behaviour patterns, far better than the ridiculous feminist propaganda, but not the sad chauvinistic garbage the idiots in the comment sections around here espouse either. How about looking into that stuff? Much more interesting than that primitive, reductionist trash you people lap up from all those sleazy sources.

        • gravenimage says

          Dec 21, 2016 at 11:27 pm

          Sure–there are biological sex differences–tendencies that are more common in one gender or the other, no doubt. But describing women as “even more vulnerable as they are programmed to follow ‘alpha male’ characters even if they threaten and disrespect them” is just claptrap.

          Some women are like this–many more are not. I sure as hell am not like this, and neither is any other female Anti-Jihadist out there–and there are many of us.

        • gravenimage says

          Dec 23, 2016 at 10:24 pm

          Fine post, marsfeld.

      • Robeaver says

        Dec 22, 2016 at 1:17 am

        Please. As an alpha, I hope to help. But been watching over daughters for a while now. We can still vote, at least. And we are a little angry.

        • gravenimage says

          Dec 22, 2016 at 5:10 pm

          Yes, Rob–not all alpha males are brutal thugs like Muslim rapists–far from it. Many alpha males are strong and decent men who want to protect those who are vulnerable from predators.

  13. davej says

    Dec 21, 2016 at 7:43 pm

    Women are attracted to the scoundrel, both men and women are attracted to the strong horse. Islam knows this and uses it to their advantage. The feminization of Western males, caused in part by the chemical estrogen imitators in our food supply, causes them to be the weak horse. They no longer defend their women and have abandoned them to the Muslim invaders.

    • gravenimage says

      Dec 21, 2016 at 9:51 pm

      Women are attracted to the scoundrel…
      …………………………

      This would be like describing all men as cruel, beer-swilling, violent thugs. In truth, it describes a small number of women, and is calumny to all of those who look for–or have found–loving, strong, and decent men.

  14. Holly McMolly says

    Dec 21, 2016 at 7:53 pm

    This qualifies as a form of mental retardation. This girl needs a shrink.

    • Anne Smith says

      Dec 22, 2016 at 6:50 am

      A shrink would be a waste of money.

      What puzzles and exasperates me about this case is why the authorities want to spend money trying her in absentia and bestowing a sentence on her.

      Be far more cost effective to round up the rest of the family and send them to join her. Obviously she is not going to survive much longer, if she is not indeed already dead.

      Why do the authorities/law enforcers waste time and money on these nutters? Just send them on their chosen way, they will undoubtedly be killed before long and the sooner the better. They are beyond redemption.

  15. Guest says

    Dec 21, 2016 at 8:10 pm

    You know how whenever someone says a terrorist is someone with mental problems and not Islamic. I say to that, “what’s the difference?”

  16. Mo says

    Dec 21, 2016 at 9:31 pm

    Hm, my comments are now showing, but “awaiting moderation.”

    I wish I knew what I did to cause this. I’ve been here for years. I’ve never used profanity. I’ve certainly never threatened anyone or anything of that nature.

    • gravenimage says

      Dec 21, 2016 at 11:31 pm

      Probably nothing like that, Mo. I’ve been reading your comments here for years, and they have always been good, with no “red flags”.

      Certain things set off the “awaiting moderation” notice automatically. Using more than two links in a single post will do it, as well as (so I’ve heard) posting from a different computer. Nothing to take personally. As soon as they are checked, the notice is removed.

      • Mo says

        Dec 22, 2016 at 1:04 am

        @ gravenimage

        Well, I was not able to post anything for many days. This is the first time anything’s shown up at all, even in the moderation queue!

        It was scaring me. I’d hate to lose this place.

        • gravenimage says

          Dec 22, 2016 at 5:18 pm

          Sorry to hear about this, Mo. If you have further technical difficulties like this, use the “Contact Us” box–it is at the right-hand or bottom of the page, depending on your screen configuration. Direct your message to Marc Louis.

          I had a terrible problem a few years ago, where I was locked out of JW and could not post at all. I’m not the most tech-savvy person, and Marc patiently walked me through the whole process, for which I will always be grateful.

          And Mo, we wouldn’t want to lose you, either!

  17. Undaunted says

    Dec 21, 2016 at 9:31 pm

    Some things to keep in mind when you see bitches like this coming at you with jihadi intent.

    1. They’re not poor, misguided lambs that just need to look into your eyes in order to be pulled off the precipice, away from the… yadda yadda yadda. They are dangerous, motivated killers.

    2. A girl terrorist is potentially more dangerous than her male counterpart(s). She will have more to prove to herself and her partners in terms of her courage and commitment to the cause of their stupid fucking so-called prophet and god and so will act out sooner and with more ferocity than perhaps any of her “brothers”. As well, she might be – after so many years of being told she is to the “god” of Islam of less worth than any Muslim man – extravagantly motivated to prove to her icky god that she is indeed and in fact at least as worthy of respect and “paradise” as any stinky Muslim jihadi with a dick, who therefore calls himself a “man”. I would not be at all surprised to have it disclosed by way of ballistic analysis that the girl shooter at San Bernardino actually shot more rounds and killed more people than her boy-loving husband. Ah… but SBPD will never release those forensic findings any more than they will tell you the truth about how their “hero” response to the IRC was NOT majestic and awesome and flawless but was rather slow and driven by officer-safety priorities, not on saving innocent lives by finding, fixing, and destroying the shooters.

    3. Extra danger from bad-girls is not just true of cutesy little Muslimah bitches but also goes for any woman who joins a group such as Black Lives Matter, which is dominated by “men” and is actually just another terrorist group.

    4. Since all the above is true, you may have to shoot one of these little petite fleurs in order to protect your life and the lives of those you love. When that happens, remember 1-3 above. Also recall that most women are smaller in frame and have their center of balance lower than men so shots to the pelvis work better on women than on men. Therefore don’t be shy about putting 6 or 8 rounds into her crotch as she screams toward you. These rounds, however, may only drop her to the ground more quickly than the same rounds fired into the crotch of a Muslim “man” and so may not necessarily stop the threat she represents; remember #2 above. So, just because she’s down and moaning doesn’t mean she’s ceased to be a threat to your life. You have to track that in real time and if she continues to pose a threat – even though she’s shot up and may be about to attain her version of martyrdom – you may have to put a couple rounds in her chest and one in her pretty little head – a Mozambique Drill – before you wrap up and head for your favorite hockey bar.

    5. If you pause a moment to consider whether or not to be gracious and kind and other-cheek-turning to any person who presents such a clear and present danger to you, you will probably be killed by one of these bitches. And then your kin will tell sad tales around the fire about how you died being a gentleman to a woman who was actually a fucking monster.

    • Undaunted says

      Dec 21, 2016 at 9:45 pm

      Oh, yeah; about putting 6-8 rounds into her pelvis: this assumes you brought a real gun to the fight, one with high-capacity magazines all of which were fully loaded with the appropriate ammo.

      Man up.

    • Veka Fitzfrancis says

      Dec 21, 2016 at 10:13 pm

      You’re presuming her head is still pretty at this point and not black and blue from Koran proscribed beatings.
      /sarcasm

      Seriously, she might be Italian by birth, but if her family was in on it they may well have been ethnic Muslims who only rediscovered their faith. Just saying.

    • Oliver says

      Dec 21, 2016 at 10:26 pm

      When I was in the army and even after and was with guys who were in Nam
      They said much the same. Also women would approach a gi
      Udually good looking. And have a grenade in their panties. Against their vagina. Possibly partly in
      And look for the opportunity to use it
      Obviously the ones telling me this survived
      But had seen it. I heard it from too many people
      At diffetent times
      And the people didn’t know each other not to believe it.

    • Porky The Crusader says

      Dec 22, 2016 at 7:48 am

      LOL.

  18. gravenimage says

    Dec 21, 2016 at 9:54 pm

    Yes–it’s happening here in the West, as well as in India.

  19. Oliver says

    Dec 21, 2016 at 10:30 pm

    Speaking of Italian girls. I guess about a year and a half ago
    Perhaps longer
    Two young Italian women
    I think like 19
    Went to Syria. Ostensibly to volunteer at a refuge center or something like that

    Anyone know whatever happened to them

    • Vic says

      Dec 22, 2016 at 12:06 am

      Italy had to pay a ransom to free them.

      But they were kidnapped by Al-Nusra, not ISIS.

    • Vic says

      Dec 22, 2016 at 12:12 am

      More details:
      https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jan/15/two-italian-aid-workers-freed-syria

  20. Paleologos says

    Dec 21, 2016 at 11:56 pm

    From the article:

    Maria Giulia was born into a Roman Catholic family in southern Italy. She moved to the wealthier north and changed her name to Fatima az Zahra after converting to Islam.

    … Another Catholic embarrassment, like Kareem and Pope Francis, but with lethal implications.

    As a Catholic, I am having a hard time digesting people converting from my Faith to the moon god inspired insanity of islam. I believe Christ would have some pretty stern things to say about islam.

    islam … not a religion, but an anti infidel ideology, Hell bent on ruling the world.

    Sad how many zealots are drinking the islamic Kool-Aid.

    R/

    Paleologos

  21. Johan elzinga says

    Dec 22, 2016 at 12:53 am

    We should grant her her wish. Introduce the death penalty for her and the likes of her. Nine years jail will not be enough, she lost her right to live as far as I’m concerned.

  22. Mark A says

    Dec 22, 2016 at 4:10 am

    Let’s hope she gets her wish and that the death she desires occurs in territory ISIS controls in Syria where is doesn’t affect any civilized people, including the civilized people who find themselves unwillingly under ISIS rule.

    This woman and her husband should not be allowed back in Europe.

  23. eur says

    Dec 22, 2016 at 6:58 am

    In my village a girl has converted to Islam. The girl was strange before, very strange, had no friends. A Moor has married her and she has put niqab. They already have several children and the Moor does not work, it is shocking to see them on the street. It is evident that he has used this woman to obtain the nationality and to live off the aid, she is crazy, she has always been. Islam attracts all the insane, enlightened, ignorant … those are easy prey for the sect.

  24. Adam says

    Dec 22, 2016 at 7:23 am

    @Robert Spencer I do not believe the two girls with and without the Hijab are the same girl. I am very surprised no one else picked up on the differences in facial features I do realise the photos are directly from the reuters article (reportedly from the Italian police), but we all know how much integrity Reuters has when it comes to factual reporting or the lack thereof. Reuters has been sued and lost multiple times for dishonest reporting, Aside from the obvious differences in facial strtucture, how would she have got such a dark suntan while her face is covered by a bedsheet outoors?

    The second point which leads me to doubt the truth here, is this: The author states that the girl is ex-muslim. Why are we not told the religion of her family (her prior religion)? I suspect the family was muslim all along.

    • gravenimage says

      Dec 22, 2016 at 5:32 pm

      Adam wrote:

      @Robert Spencer I do not believe the two girls with and without the Hijab are the same girl. I am very surprised no one else picked up on the differences in facial features…
      ………………………………

      Adam, she has a mole on the right side of her face in *exactly* the same position in the left-side and center pictures. And while I am hardly infallible, I’m an illustrator and am used to close observation and the faces appear to be the same to me.

      I think what is so shocking is the change in demeanor–she looks like a perfectly civilized figure in the left-hand picture,and then just devolves as she shows up in first a Hijab, then a Niqab. This is actually quite common.

      More:

      The second point which leads me to doubt the truth here, is this: The author states that the girl is ex-muslim. Why are we not told the religion of her family (her prior religion)? I suspect the family was muslim all along.
      ………………………………

      I combed thought the article, and could find no reference to her having left Islam. I’ve read other articles on this case that note that the family is–or was, certainly–Roman Catholic. This idiot married an Albanian, and it was almost certainly her marriage that led her to Islam and to Jihad.

  25. Porky The Crusader says

    Dec 22, 2016 at 7:29 am

    We can’t wait that you die either and get rid of scumbag as you.

  26. FYI says

    Dec 22, 2016 at 8:17 am

    She abandons God’s way of peace for “allah”‘s way of the sword.
    She abandons salvation for condemnation.
    She abandons the Truth about God for the counterfeit version “allah”.
    She rejects Christ for anti-Christ.

    And when she dies she has the nerve to think she is going to paradise??

  27. John A. Marre says

    Dec 22, 2016 at 10:04 am

    Anyone who converts to that gutter religion has willingly given up his or her citizenship, and has lost the right to live in the country of their birth, and must be deported.

    • Angemon says

      Dec 22, 2016 at 10:22 am

      Deported where if they were born there?

  28. Angemon says

    Dec 22, 2016 at 10:21 am

    Her parents and sister began to sell their possessions after agreeing to move to Syria too. But they were arrested in 2015 and prevented from leaving Italy.

    *Why*?

  29. Ahmad Aly says

    Dec 22, 2016 at 10:56 am

    even if the whole world hates Islam we will always be the winners

    • Mirren10 says

      Dec 22, 2016 at 3:39 pm

      ”even if the whole world hates Islam we will always be the winners”

      As I’ve always noted, islam rots the brains of its adherents. Doesn’t do much for punctuation, either ! 🙂

    • gravenimage says

      Dec 22, 2016 at 3:45 pm

      Ahmad Aly wrote:

      even if the whole world hates Islam we will always be the winners
      ………………………..

      Doesn’t he mean, “we will always be the whiners”?

      • Champ says

        Dec 22, 2016 at 6:08 pm

        Exactly, Graven! …lol! 😀

        • gravenimage says

          Dec 23, 2016 at 10:58 pm

          🙂

    • Wellington says

      Dec 22, 2016 at 3:57 pm

      Islam has NEVER been a winner, only at times a dominator. Huge difference.

      • gravenimage says

        Dec 22, 2016 at 5:35 pm

        So true.

    • Champ says

      Dec 22, 2016 at 4:04 pm

      Go ahead and lie to yourself but I prefer the truth: islam is a losing and evil ideology.

  30. Walter Sieruk says

    Dec 22, 2016 at 2:26 pm

    That poor girl who has been so throughly led astray and had fallen under the insidious deceptiion of Islam with it’s many false doctrines and reiligoius myths and lies. This the Bible does warns against. As seen in the New International Verson in First Timothy 1:3,4. This girl is a person that Christians should pray for.

  31. Walter Sieruk says

    Dec 22, 2016 at 2:33 pm

    Under the demonic influence of Islam this young person might become literally become dangerous to self and others. How awful !

  32. Ade says

    Dec 22, 2016 at 3:48 pm

    We have something in common ! …
    I can’t wait for you to die either

  33. CrankyWW says

    Dec 22, 2016 at 5:57 pm

    So the whole fam damily was willing to become jihadis in Syria? What a bunch of idiots!

  34. Deon says

    Dec 25, 2016 at 6:47 pm

    Islam in man is like rabies in a dog. Moslems are great people, untill they start reading that satanic cult verses written by a pedophile war lord.

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