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Italy: Priest bans Nativity scene for fear of offending Muslims

Dec 12, 2016 4:46 pm By Robert Spencer

Remember the rule: in Muslim countries, be careful to conform your behavior to Muslim sensibilities. And in non-Muslim countries, be careful to conform your behavior to Muslim sensibilities.

“Nativity Scene Could Offend Muslims, Priest Says,” by Nick Hallett, Breitbart, December 12, 2016:

A priest in Italy has caused uproar after announcing there would be no Christmas nativity scene at the local cemetery this year because it could offend Muslims and atheists.

Fr Sante Braggiè said there would be no crib in the cemetery in the northern city of Cremona because it may anger people of others faiths or none whose relatives are buried there.

“A small corner of the cemetery is reserved for Muslim graves,” Fr Braggiè said. “A crib positioned within sight of them could be seen as a lack of respect for followers of other faiths, hurt the sensibilities of Muslims, as well as Indians and even atheists.”

He also cited a lack of council workers to set up the crib as another reason for abandoning the tradition.

Corriere della Serra reports that Fr Braggiè’s predecessor as local priest, Fr Oreste Mori, strongly criticised the decision, saying: “Seriously? I can’t believe it!”

“We cannot renounce our culture and traditions,” he said. “That would be an unpardonable weakness.”

“I am, for the time being at least, in Italy, not Saudi Arabia.”…

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  1. Rev g says

    Dec 12, 2016 at 4:48 pm

    Better to ban muslims out of fear of offending human decency.

    • Bob says

      Dec 13, 2016 at 7:18 am

      I’m offended by the sight of their mosques topped off by the crescent and star – ban ’em!

    • A Harris USA says

      Dec 13, 2016 at 11:52 am

      Rev., ban the Muslims, and the foolish false priest, who is leading his sheep into hell!! Did not Jesus say, you do not know me, I do not know you?? Deny me, and I deny you? As his false Pope, he bows to the devil, and denies Jesus!! Oh not good!! Maybe they should shut down the Vatican, since it offends the pig savages as well!!

      • DFD says

        Dec 13, 2016 at 7:31 pm

        Might be better to shut down Islam, than the rest of humanity wouldn’t be offended.

    • Frank says

      Dec 13, 2016 at 12:51 pm

      The Priest is out of order by causing a schism . He should be suspended immediately to reflect on his stupidity.

  2. john spielman says

    Dec 12, 2016 at 4:53 pm

    To this cowardly priest: Jesus said ” he who denies me before men, I will deny before my father in heaven”

    • Pere LaChaise says

      Dec 12, 2016 at 8:49 pm

      A Judas Priest if there ever was one. And this anodyne comment by the other: “We cannot renounce our culture and traditions,” he said. “That would be an unpardonable weakness… I am, for the time being at least, in Italy, not Saudi Arabia” is as weak and untheological as the apostasy of the first. If signs of Christian faith merely denote ‘culture and traditions’ they are no more crucial than panettone and cappuccino con Vov.
      The vacuum of religious faith in Catholic Europe begins with its faithless clergy. You will never find that lukewarm water in the veins of a Russian priest!

      • John Kyndesen says

        Dec 12, 2016 at 9:01 pm

        Nor will you find that lukewarm water in the veins of a muslim jihadist. If Europe does not find a backbone quickly the battle that was won at Vienna in 1683 will mean nothing. The last time islam threatened Europe it took 500 years to put the run on them. Lets not face that again.

      • gravenimage says

        Dec 12, 2016 at 9:49 pm

        Pere LaChaise wrote:

        You will never find that lukewarm water in the veins of a Russian priest!
        …………………………..

        Pere LaChaise, I’m afraid you belief that Russian clergy do not engage in dhimmitude is quite mistaken.

        Here is head of the Russian Orthodox Church Patriarch Kirill himself:

        “West should learn from Russia to accept Muslim refugees – Patriarch Kirill”

        http://www.interfax-religion.com/?act=news&div=12354

        I would that this were not so–but no denomination seems to be free from this appeasement of Islam.

        • John Vogel says

          Dec 13, 2016 at 6:42 am

          Dear Patriarch Kirill, It is easy said that we should learn from Russia ho accept Muslim refugees. In some cities of The Netherlands, our country, there is already a sharia law…..
          And we have seen on video what is happening in London, where hunderds of Police men were running away when thousands of Muslims tried to attack them. We have already a lot of misery with Moroccans, raping our women or daughters in a swimming pool. We have read what happened in Köln where Muslim refugees raped women on the street. In short: The Muslims who are here, do not respect our law, let’s say 50 % of them. They have no respect for Christians and Jews. The latter are even attacked by them….And we have already more than one million of Muslims here. More is not good for such a small country. If they do not respect the law in Russia, they will be punished seriously. In our country they almost are never punished….So, how we should learn from Russia? Explain please. I will gave your comments to our government, ok? Kind regards, John Vogel

        • gravenimage says

          Dec 13, 2016 at 8:32 pm

          Good post, John.

      • Bill says

        Dec 13, 2016 at 7:30 am

        One of Pope Francis’ minions at work, destroying the Faith.

      • Bevc says

        Dec 13, 2016 at 11:36 am

        I disagree. My Italian alas is still rudimentary, but I went to the original article. The previous pastor was being SARCASTIC in his use of the phrase “at least for the time being” he is not in Saudia Arabia. He, as an Italian, is wryly referring to the “for the time being” the muslim migrant wave has not washed away our beloved Italia.

        As a ROMAN Catholic and ITALA Americana, I am not meek & mild, nor am I a stranger to the use of sarcasm. I recognize it when I see it.

        • gravenimage says

          Dec 13, 2016 at 8:42 pm

          Bevc wrote:

          I disagree. My Italian alas is still rudimentary, but I went to the original article. The previous pastor was being SARCASTIC in his use of the phrase “at least for the time being” he is not in Saudia Arabia. He, as an Italian, is wryly referring to the “for the time being” the muslim migrant wave has not washed away our beloved Italia.

          As a ROMAN Catholic and ITALA Americana, I am not meek & mild, nor am I a stranger to the use of sarcasm. I recognize it when I see it.
          ………………………..

          Bevc, it was Fr Oreste Mori who was, as you note, being sarcastic.

          John Spielman was not calling him a “cowardly priest”. This was aimed at Fr Sante Braggiè, who is the one actually banning the Nativity Scene.

      • A Harris USA says

        Dec 13, 2016 at 11:54 am

        Pere, that is exactly why I left the Roman Church, and went to the Orthodox Faith…!!

        • gravenimage says

          Dec 13, 2016 at 8:44 pm

          A Harris, I have noted many times that the Orthodox Church–sadly–is not free from dhimmitude and appeasement to Islam either.

    • Bob says

      Dec 13, 2016 at 6:31 am

      Amen!!

    • Bob says

      Dec 13, 2016 at 6:33 am

      Amen! John….

  3. Dennis says

    Dec 12, 2016 at 4:54 pm

    Disgusting. Such “priests” are sick.

  4. Mirren10 says

    Dec 12, 2016 at 4:57 pm

    “I am, for the time being at least, in Italy, not Saudi Arabia.”…

    Yeah, well, hold on to that thought.

    • Custos Custodum says

      Dec 12, 2016 at 9:30 pm

      “A small corner of the cemetery is reserved for Muslim graves”

      All Muslims who buried people in this cemetery until now did so KNOWING FULL WELL that Nativity scenes would be staged every year within sight of the grave.

      This is like the common scenario of people buying cheap land near a major road or other public nuisance and then loudly demanding that the intolerable nuisance be removed.

      Speaking of inflated Muslim sensitivities, always remember that Christian or Jewish food is EXPRESSLY ALLOWED to Muslims:

      The food of the people of the Scripture [Jews & Christians] is lawful halal for you ……” Qur’an 5:5

      More details from an Islamic perspective (!) here: http://www.quran-islam.org/articles/halal_meat_(P1156).html

      • TheBuffster says

        Dec 13, 2016 at 7:50 am

        I note that the article doesn’t say that any Muslims have complained.

        • Custos Custodum says

          Dec 13, 2016 at 4:38 pm

          Precisely – Muslim supremacists nowadays can always count on a few eager dhimmis to do their dirty work unbidden.

        • gravenimage says

          Dec 13, 2016 at 8:48 pm

          Pre-exemptive dhimmitude…

        • gravenimage says

          Dec 13, 2016 at 8:56 pm

          Sorry–that should have been “Preemptive dhimmitude”.

  5. Lynne says

    Dec 12, 2016 at 4:57 pm

    That is an insult to Christians. I know Buddhists and Jews who are in no way offended by a Nativity Scene. I am a lapsed Catholic who has asked for a crucifix for Christmas to wear around my neck to indicate to all that I am a Christian. I hope I do offend some Muslims because they offend me by wearing a niqab or burka.

    • KABOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM says

      Dec 12, 2016 at 9:14 pm

      The token of islam that provokes me the most is the rows upon rows of arses raised to m0 and Aloha Snackbar. As many muzz are obese I can imagine the stench created through flatulence at these collectives.

      It’s little wonder they don’t draw the line at goats and sheep after being subjected to this torture 5 times/day, week after week, month after month and year after year. No wonder many of the imams look insane in many of the images and videos available on the net.

      • Peggy says

        Dec 12, 2016 at 10:57 pm

        They eat a lot of lentils. EPA should investigate every mosque.

    • John Vogel says

      Dec 13, 2016 at 6:54 am

      Why Muslims would be offended by a Nativity Scene? For them Jesus was a prophet as well, one who has done no harm to anyone on earth. So explain me why Muslims would be offended?

      • gravenimage says

        Dec 13, 2016 at 9:04 pm

        A whole slew of reasons, John.

        Jesus is not the figure Muslims consider a prophet–that is “Isa”, who has nothing in common with the Jesus of the Gospels, but is supposed to “slaughter Christians” in the last days.

        A Nativity Scene is clearly a reference to the *Christian* Jesus, and the idea of the Son of God is condemned by Islam.

        Then, depictions of human figures are deemed Haram in Islam, and must be destroyed.

    • beaubear says

      Dec 13, 2016 at 10:45 am

      i used to be a catholic until I got saved and realize, I don’t need a priest to confess my sins , only God
      and I too have a cross, but w/out Jesus on it, because he rose, he is no longer nailed to the cross.
      sad that a priest is giving into PC sad indeed. ” I am not ashamed of the gospel of Jesus Christ -Romans 1:16

      • Ps Dave says

        Dec 14, 2016 at 3:07 am

        Priest of this ilk will be shown the error of their ways,(in this life or the next). Scripture Cleary states to deny the Son is to deny the Father! and by no means will you hear the words “come in good and Faithful servant”period! and for those of you who truly follow the risen Christ,the one who no longer hangs on the cross and not the traditions and practices of your particular denomination your job is to not point and judge but to watch and pray and long for His day to arrive and allow His judgment to fall as He sees fit. I pray that His will be done in all our lives and that His Kingdom come here on earth as it is in heaven.

        • Rev g says

          Dec 14, 2016 at 10:03 am

          Not putting up a nativity scene is NOT denying the Son.
          What next, celebrating New Year’s equates to satanism?
          The priest is wrong, no doubt, but is not denying Christ.

        • gravenimage says

          Dec 14, 2016 at 8:58 pm

          Not putting up a Nativity Scene in order to appease those who violently deny Christ is pretty disturbing to find a priest doing…

  6. somehistory says

    Dec 12, 2016 at 5:08 pm

    “Fear”. The Bible says that “fear of man lays a snare”…( Proverbs 29:25) a snare is a trap.

    Fear of moslims is a trap and into it, many are falling.

    • Champ says

      Dec 12, 2016 at 5:31 pm

      “For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.” — 2 Timothy 1:7

      • somehistory says

        Dec 12, 2016 at 7:09 pm

        Absolutely!!

      • Anthony says

        Dec 12, 2016 at 10:10 pm

        Amen. Let’s pray that The Holy Spirit guides the priest to stand up against the PC world. JESUS WILL !!!!

  7. Jaladhi says

    Dec 12, 2016 at 5:08 pm

    Only one question: whose country is it? The West has already given their countries to the invader Muslims!

    • Damocles Junior says

      Dec 13, 2016 at 4:23 am

      It is “our” country I think, that is; white, straight, often married with family, go to work, nominally Christian and speak in a European tongue. As such I find some things offensive these are; a mosque in every suburb, shop signs in Arabic and shop assistants, nurses and public servants dressed in Islamic garb or Islamic garb in public places. Yes, I am offended by these things, after all, it is (or should be) “our” country but no one seems to care if we are offended.

  8. Lucia Bartoli says

    Dec 12, 2016 at 5:14 pm

    How pathetic is this priest! Furthermore, he is DENYING Christ as much as if they asked him about the birth of Jesus…He is himself a denier of Christ. Well, no need for martyrdom of this weakling priest. He should be chastised and IF HE DIDN”T HAVE THE WORKERS, then drag his lazy ass out and DO IT HIMSELF!! Add liar, traitor of Christ, and LAZY to the litany of sins he should atone for TO HIS OWN PARISHIONERS. What a loser! I AM a devout, practicing Catholic and if I had this weakling’s address, I would send him the bios of St. Tarcisius, and many other martyrs…God help him! He is NOT a true Catholic!

    • KABOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM says

      Dec 12, 2016 at 9:17 pm

      Blame it on Pope Frankie the wanker in the Vatican.

      • Achmed says

        Dec 12, 2016 at 11:21 pm

        It seems as if the priest’s action was commanded by that islamophiliac … the pope. It just might make it into a papal command for all of his flock.

      • Bevc says

        Dec 13, 2016 at 11:41 am

        Ironically the nativity scene — a full scale living, breathing, mooing one – was given to my peeps by an Italian saint named FRANCIS!! The Catholic Italian home is not complete for Christmas without the praesepio which the French then adopted and called “creche” and English called “manger scene”. This priest is a traitor to Faith and to Blood in my not-so-humble Italian American view.

        • gravenimage says

          Dec 13, 2016 at 9:09 pm

          You are right about the origin of the Manger Scene, Bevc.

    • Peggy says

      Dec 12, 2016 at 11:00 pm

      Anyone who attends that church is being led by Jesus denier and is following the wrong shepherd.
      They really have to either wake him up or stop attending the church and tell him why.

  9. Blangwort says

    Dec 12, 2016 at 5:30 pm

    Put a nativity scene out there. Synagogues put menorahs out for Hanukkah. If you can’t be proud of your religion if you must curb your celebration out of fear from someone else, then it’s time to take arms and do something about it.

  10. Champ says

    Dec 12, 2016 at 5:34 pm

    Question: “What does the Bible say about fear?”

    Answer: The Bible mentions two specific types of fear. The first type is beneficial and is to be encouraged. The second type is a detriment and is to be overcome. The first type of fear is fear of the Lord. This type of fear does not necessarily mean to be afraid of something. Rather, it is a reverential awe of God; a reverence for His power and glory. However, it is also a proper respect for His wrath and anger. In other words, the fear of the Lord is a total acknowledgement of all that God is, which comes through knowing Him and His attributes.

    Fear of the Lord brings with it many blessings and benefits. It is the beginning of wisdom and leads to good understanding (Psalm 111:10). Only fools despise wisdom and discipline (Proverbs 1:7). Furthermore, fear of the Lord leads to life, rest, peace, and contentment (Proverbs 19:23). It is the fountain and life (Proverbs 14:27) and provides a security and a place of safety for us (Proverbs 14:26).

    More here:

    https://gotquestions.org/Bible-fear.html

  11. davej says

    Dec 12, 2016 at 5:37 pm

    How is it that these champions of diversity and tolerance routinely cave to “potential Muslim outrage”, to the point of anticipating it before it has even occurred?

    If we are supposed to tolerate burkas in the street, calls to prayer and halal food why can’t they tolerate a minor Christian holiday display?

    Really sick of this kowtowing to one particular group under the banner of multiculturalism – wasn’t that supposed to mean an inclusive respectful equality rather than the elevation of any particular group as exceptional or superior?

  12. Hugh Fitzgerald says

    Dec 12, 2016 at 5:48 pm

    Ma vogliamo scherzare? ‘Lintenzioni sarranno anche buone, ma il risultato pessimo. Questo deriva da una grandissima ignoranza di una mentalita’ che vedra’ quest’azione come un segno di debolezza da parte del cristianesimo e cerchera’ di trarne un vantaggio politico.

    In other words, just when you think it can’t get any more absurd, it does. Meanwhile, the previous priest said exactly what needed to be said: “We cannot renounce our culture and traditions. That would be an unpardonable weakness.”

    “I am, for the time being at least[, in Italy, not Saudi Arabia.”…

    • MaryC says

      Dec 13, 2016 at 3:35 pm

      This is way beyond absurd, I suspect. The priest may be genuinely afraid. After all, earlier this year another Italian priest had his throat slit on his own alter, while saying Mass, by Islamic terrorists.

      Speaking of taking offense, the Three Wise Men from the East in the nativity scene intrigued me in childhood. One of them is typically depicted wearing a turban. Can we take that to mean he’s an Arab? Even though Christianity predates Islam, would Arabic Muslims find particularly insulting a depiction of an apparent Arab bringing gifts and kneeling to acknowledge the divinity of the Christ child?

      • Oliver says

        Dec 13, 2016 at 4:53 pm

        Wasn’t the priest who had his throat cut while saying mass on France

  13. Byzantium1683 says

    Dec 12, 2016 at 5:58 pm

    It is one thing for secularists to ban a nativity scene, but a priest!!!!

    Then again it’s in a cemetery. But I don’t think a change in demographics justifies getting rid of it. It says it may offend those with relatives there, but what about offending Christians with generations buried there?

    If I believed in ghosts, I would imagine a great many ancestor spirits are annoyed at the change in scenery. And the change in common sense.

  14. Eric Jones says

    Dec 12, 2016 at 6:17 pm

    So let the muslims be offended. As for this priest has he not read that Jesus said “He who denies me before men I will deny before my Father”? This priest fears muslims more than he fears the Judgement of Jesus Christ. This priest is a fool.

    Eric

    • a Voice says

      Dec 12, 2016 at 8:35 pm

      …a fool? More likely the priest is not even a Christian believer.

  15. DRHazard says

    Dec 12, 2016 at 6:17 pm

    Sensiblity: a person’s delicate sensitivity that makes them readily offended or shocked.
    plural noun: sensibilities

    Muslims are among the the most emotionally fragile people on Earth. Being offended is their way of saying “Islam and Muslims are special”. Since evidence proves otherwise they are constantly demanding attention and special attention from the rest of the World.

  16. Janwaar Bibi says

    Dec 12, 2016 at 6:39 pm

    “A crib positioned within sight of them could be seen as a lack of respect for followers of other faiths, hurt the sensibilities of Muslims, as well as Indians and even atheists.”

    While there are problems with militant Muslims and atheists, the bigger problem is that people in the West have lost their civilizational self-confidence. A hundred years ago, people from Europe used to go to other countries and run the lives of the “natives” there. Today, they are afraid to promote their beliefs even in their own countries, which is absurd. Nature abhors a vacuum – if Christians do not fill the void in their own countries, other belief systems will, and there is a dark belief system waiting in the wings to take over.

    • Jaladhi says

      Dec 12, 2016 at 9:13 pm

      Ah, if the Western leaders could nly understand this!! They have become yellow livered cowards!!

  17. Kevin Raddy says

    Dec 12, 2016 at 6:43 pm

    He’s in the wrong job

  18. gravenimage says

    Dec 12, 2016 at 6:44 pm

    Italy: Priest bans Nativity scene for fear of offending Muslims
    …………………………..

    The ultimate dhimmitude–when the “filthy Infidels” anticipate what might “offend” Muslims and ban it themselves…

    More:

    Corriere della Serra reports that Fr Braggiè’s predecessor as local priest, Fr Oreste Mori, strongly criticised the decision, saying: “Seriously? I can’t believe it!”

    “We cannot renounce our culture and traditions,” he said. “That would be an unpardonable weakness.”

    “I am, for the time being at least, in Italy, not Saudi Arabia.”…
    …………………………..

    Good for Fr Oreste Mori for standing up!

    The Creche is a traditional part of Christmas in Italy–Italy is famous for her Nativity Scenes:

    https://delightfullyitaly.com/2013/11/30/rome-best-nativity-scenes/

  19. J-pal says

    Dec 12, 2016 at 6:58 pm

    “A small corner of the cemetery is reserved for Muslim graves,” Fr Braggiè said. “A crib positioned within sight of them could be seen as a lack of respect for followers of other faiths, hurt the sensibilities of Muslims, as well as Indians and even atheists.”

    …not putting it up would be seen as a lack of respect to God Himself!…or? And, Christianity wasn’t afraid of anyone before in the pre-muslim era… isn’t this EXACTLY what the muslim thing, idea, is about – terror, fear, threat, slaughtered, kill… ? Herod, you know, the ‘king’ feared that somebody else, a child, would be king instea of him, why he ordered the killing around Bethlehem… Herods fear spread through this order of killings…. ow, as I can remember this, he finally died a terible death…anyway…. Dont fear those (muslims in our days) who can kill the body but are not able to kill the soul: rather, fear Him (that is God Himself – only) who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell. Matthew 10:28 – Happy Christmas!!!

  20. Infidel Lass says

    Dec 12, 2016 at 7:03 pm

    Why the hell would Muslims want to be buried in a Christian cemetery anyway? And if they are, does that not show certain acceptance on their part towards Christianity? I mean, being buried in a church graveyard isn’t cheap. Not like they didn’t have a choice. And denying a Nativity scene in such a graveyard is a total denial of the faith, that so- called priest needs to be let off by his hierarchy.

    • Jaladhi says

      Dec 12, 2016 at 9:16 pm

      As you know Muslim invaders like to take over everything that the infidels have. They won’t leave you in peace even when some one is in the grave!

      • gravenimage says

        Dec 12, 2016 at 9:54 pm

        Exactly, Jaladhi.

      • Jack Diamond says

        Dec 13, 2016 at 3:31 am

        Meanwhile, this is how Muslims show respect for Christian headstones and crosses (and it will be remembered how Jewish cemeteries were desecrated and headstones were used, among other things, to construct latrines when the Muslims took over Old Jerusalem):

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eE3u6SGfkj8

        Respect is always a one-way street with the Slaves of Allah. But then someone probably “hurt their sensibilities.”

        • gravenimage says

          Dec 13, 2016 at 9:14 pm

          Very true, Jack. Muslims regularly desecrate Infidel graves.

  21. linnte says

    Dec 12, 2016 at 7:11 pm

    This is unbelievable. My jaw fell open when I read this. And see how this priest softened the “blow” by including atheists in the reason for the ban? Atheists don’t CARE. How ludicrous. The Catholic Church has lost her true love. Revelations.

    • Peggy says

      Dec 12, 2016 at 7:33 pm

      I am just as upset as you are about this slave of satan including other religions and atheists.
      How dare he imply that they might have a problem with this when they never had a problem with it before.
      Maybe they should demand an apology from this idiot.

      • gravenimage says

        Dec 12, 2016 at 10:04 pm

        Exactly, Linnte and Peggy.

  22. isabel says

    Dec 12, 2016 at 7:17 pm

    He is a complete idiot

  23. Peggy says

    Dec 12, 2016 at 7:34 pm

    It’s time for Catholics to rise up and boycott all these churches whose priests have been turned.

  24. Kepha says

    Dec 12, 2016 at 8:06 pm

    Speaking as a hardcore Christian of the Reformed variety, I admit that I find nativity scenes just a tad idolatrous. God the Son is, after all, fully God as well as fully man, and the NT doesn’t give us a physical description of him anywhere, save in Revelation 1, in an appearance that made his beloved disciple John fall at hiss feet “as if dead”.

    But this Italian priest strikes me as especially craven. He’s acting like the perfect Dhimmi. I suppose the next order of business is that there will be no repairs on the church itself (which may be well in need of them, considering the ages of lots of Italian church buildings). Maybe, after that, it will be acquiescence in the abductions, rapes, and forcible conversions to Islam of the attractive young females of the parish.

    A lot of us Protestants walked out the doors of “Mainline” churches where the message was to keep a respectful five paces behind the cultured despisers (the one halfway wise thing that Schleiermacher ever said) and deny anything in the creed that might be offensive to modern egoism. We got called “fundamentalists” for our trouble, started rebuilding institutions from scratch, and take it daily from the Lamestream Media that we are bad people who eat live-stewed liberated lesbians for Christmas dinner rather than poultry (no, we don’t. We plead the Sixth Commandment against the caricature of us). But it’s loyalty to Jesus Christ that comes first.

    • Achmed says

      Dec 13, 2016 at 9:31 am

      Well spoken. Well said.

  25. Jim says

    Dec 12, 2016 at 8:34 pm

    Ramadan offends me. Will the muslims drop it? Not on your nelly!!

  26. Benedict says

    Dec 12, 2016 at 9:01 pm

    That’s progress! Forget childish cartoon contests. Now we are closing in on what really offends Muslims. Let me suggest t-shirts, neon lights on Manhattan and the like with two numbers: 3:16! – in honor of Christmas. And BTW, this verse explains why the progressive left with feminists in the lead unite with Muslims in hate: The abominable patriarchy that gives his son in love to save the world.
    These united hatemongers just can’t stand it, so let Christmas be the ultimate offense to this unholy alliance: ?Let them know! Let them know! Let them know!

  27. abad says

    Dec 12, 2016 at 9:09 pm

    Italy is not the best place for Muslims to be.

    What ARE they doing in Italy anyways??

    Maybe they should be deported to Saudi Arabia or Syria if anything related to Christianity offends them.

  28. Oliver says

    Dec 12, 2016 at 9:21 pm

    I am a bit confused by parts of this. “A small corner of the cemetery is reserved for Muslim graves,” .

    And the crib MIGHT ( emphasis mine) offend relatives—blah, blah, blah.

    So, why NOT JUST HAVE THE NATIVITY SCENE IN A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT SPOT? OR, IF THAT IS THE ONLY GOOD SPOT, REARRANGE THE SCENE, SO THE CRIB DOES NOT FACE THE MUSLIM SECTION?

    Or, is that to simple for a priest to consider? And simply say no to a nativity scene?

    (I am not Catholic- and nativity scenes don’t bother me in the least- I can look at them, or not look at them, as I please, as I go past. i would think anyone could do the same).

  29. Oliver says

    Dec 12, 2016 at 9:25 pm

    I just thought of something. Why would the priest (or the town or village- whatever the municipality is) PUT A NATIVITY SCENE IN A CEMETERY, OF ALL PLACES, ANYHOW?

    In front of a church? Yes. In a park? Yes. But in a cemetery? Seems strange to me.

    • gravenimage says

      Dec 12, 2016 at 9:43 pm

      Oliver, a lot of cemeteries have chapels. I’ve seen nativity scenes at cemetery chapels here in the US.

      • Oliver says

        Dec 12, 2016 at 9:47 pm

        Ok, so ( probably) the nativity would be by the chapel. I can accept that- but the chapel would have 4 sides (if it is a normal building)- so- why not have the scene on the side that does not face the small Muslim section? (Actually, I would guess, the entire chapel might be in the Catholic section, anyhow).

        And, if the chapel is in the front- bfd is a Muslim sees it on his way to a relatives grave. he can avert his eyes.

        • somehistory says

          Dec 12, 2016 at 9:51 pm

          When people make up *reasons* to cover for themselves, the reasons never make a whole lot of sense. Which this doesn’t.

        • gravenimage says

          Dec 12, 2016 at 10:09 pm

          These dhimmis are so concerned about “offending” Muslims that it does not even matter if they complain.

    • somehistory says

      Dec 12, 2016 at 9:49 pm

      I wondered that too. Of all of the places to put one, that seems strange, disrespectful and kind of creepy. I’ve never seen one in a cemetery/

      • gravenimage says

        Dec 12, 2016 at 10:19 pm

        As I noted, you sometimes find them in cemetery chapels. I don’t find that disrespectful at all.

        And the cemetery in Quincy, Massachusetts, puts up a Nativity Scene every year:

        “Dog walker finds baby Jesus statue stolen from Quincy manger”

        http://www.patriotledger.com/x1671795985/Baby-Jesus-statue-stolen-from-Quincy-Nativity-scene

        “The life-sized statue was discovered missing Wednesday morning from its spot in the manger in the city-owned Hancock Cemetery next to city hall…”

        (oh, and the baby Jesus statue was found, repaired, and replaced)

        • somehistory says

          Dec 12, 2016 at 11:45 pm

          “Finding them in a chapel” to me seems a lot different than what this account seems to be saying. If the *reserved* part is a *corner* and the display is *within sight* …this seems to indicate it might not be inside a chapel at all.
          And we each have our own feelings of what is “disrespectful”…we don’t have to agree on everything.

          I’m just truly glad that Jesus Christ is no longer a baby.

        • gravenimage says

          Dec 13, 2016 at 12:09 am

          Dear somehistory, whether one finds placing a Nativity Scene in a cemetery strange or not, it is clear that this priest banned it out of dhimmitude, and not because he deemed it disrespectful to Christians.

          And if you consider there to be some places where Nativity Scenes are appropriate, I’m sure Muslims would like to see them removed from there, as well.

        • somehistory says

          Dec 13, 2016 at 9:30 am

          g,
          I know *why* the guy is not having it displayed. I was just responding to your comment that You do not see it as disrespectful in reply to my saying I think it is.

          Personally, I wouldn’t display it anywhere. The account in the Bible is something to read, ponder and remember. But I wouldn’t *NOT* display it out of fear of what moslims and their evil minds can cook up for everyone not worshipping their satanic father.

          If people wish to display it, they should not have to give in to fear of being killed.

        • gravenimage says

          Dec 13, 2016 at 9:21 pm

          somehistory, I do not personally find Nativity Scenes to be disrespectful to Christians, and I have in fact painted such scenes and illustrated a book on the nativity story.

          In my opinion, some of the loveliest works in the history of art have been Nativity Scenes.

          But the wonderful thing about living in the civilized world is that we can disagree on such matters, and do so civilly and without fear.

          Thanks for your reply, and be well.

  30. StacyGirl says

    Dec 12, 2016 at 10:32 pm

    We are always told how the qur’an mentions and Muslims honor Jesus and Maryam. That is until they don’t.

    • gravenimage says

      Dec 13, 2016 at 12:13 am

      Exactly, StacyGirl.

    • Benedict says

      Dec 13, 2016 at 5:19 am

      Good point!
      We should understand, that In Islam Jesus the Christ can only be used as a point of departure in order to aggrandize its fake, puffed-up, sycophantic prophet.

  31. Mark A says

    Dec 12, 2016 at 10:47 pm

    What a disgraceful action by this priest.

    I’m Catholic but I’m dismayed by the apparent appeasement of Islam by Pope Francis.

    Sura 9:29 of the Koran makes very clear what Islam thinks of non-Muslims and what is in store for us in an Islamic state. I would welcome a far more assertive attitude from the Catholic Church against Islamic statements about non-Muslims and its plans for non-Muslims in an Islamic society or Islamic state,

    Dhimmi? Never!

  32. Achmed says

    Dec 12, 2016 at 11:27 pm

    Just one more example of a Roman Catholic priest bein’ a Roman Catholic priest.

    • gravenimage says

      Dec 13, 2016 at 12:28 am

      Not really…

      • Achmed says

        Dec 13, 2016 at 9:34 am

        Seems as if it is … what has the pope to say about all of this. Or, is he too busy kissing mohammedan’s feet?

        • gravenimage says

          Dec 13, 2016 at 9:24 pm

          Achmed, not all Catholics are dhimmis.

  33. Jack Holan says

    Dec 12, 2016 at 11:39 pm

    Defrock this quisling of a Priest who lacks Leadership, Christian will to survive, and common decency for his flock His Predacessor sows he has all the qualities this fool lacks.
    Delusional like the Pope you won’t discover Muslianywhere nor in Muslim Countries hiding their religion or values for you nor do they care how you “feel” about it Christians and Fellow Jews wake up to the fact that this is a war of survival. Itt is a war declared by Jihadists. This is the face of the enmy Muslims who sho wish to share a life together on an equal basis are welcome

  34. Alien Republican says

    Dec 13, 2016 at 1:02 am

    ““A small corner of the cemetery is reserved for Muslim graves,” Fr Braggiè said. “A crib positioned within sight of them could be seen as a lack of respect for followers of other faiths, hurt the sensibilities of Muslims,”
    —
    Really ? I Remember the fuss, when muslims didnit want to be burried in the cementary because it was tainted by infidel corpses. There was no clearer way to say that “we”, the people of other than muslim faith are filthy and toxic.

    • Jack Diamond says

      Dec 13, 2016 at 4:23 am

      https://islamqa.info/en/7866
      “deceased Muslims must be buried in a graveyard that is exclusively for them. It is not permissible to bury them in non-Muslim graveyards. Imaam al-Sheeraazi said in al-Muhadhdhab: “A non-Muslim should not be buried in the Muslim graveyard and a Muslim should not be buried in a non-Muslim graveyard.” Imaam al-Nawawi said in al-Majmoo’: “Our companions (may Allaah have mercy on them) agreed that a Muslim should not be buried in a non-Muslim graveyard and a non-Muslim should not be buried in a Muslim graveyard.” From this it is clear that there has to be a place that is exclusively for the burial of Muslims in a graveyard of their own.”

      Infidel graves are not only toxic, they are places where dead disbelievers are “being punished” (in Hell) another reason they are to be shunned. If Fr Braggiè really wants to show Muslims respect he’d transport those deceased Muslims out of there and into their own graveyard, and…problem solved. But no, we have to have this jihad of the corpses, the mujahidead.

  35. rightrightright says

    Dec 13, 2016 at 2:07 am

    The Nativity display would comfort and console relatives visiting lost loved ones in the graveyard. To this communo priest, unfortunately Islam pandering outranks consolation.

  36. LR says

    Dec 13, 2016 at 4:36 am

    I hope all the Christians give him holy hell…

    Cowardice is becoming way too commonplace.

  37. Carmel says

    Dec 13, 2016 at 4:48 am

    Muslims say they get offended by nativity scenes. So, peoples take out their nativity scenes. Next , muslims are offended by christmas tree, so christians take ou their christmas trees. Then , muslims are offended by church bells, churches etc….

    In fact , one has to know that it is muslim duties to be offended by any christmas sign and the idea of Christmas. Their aim is to erase it purely and simply . As long as you do anything on Christmas day , you will offend them . So , don’t bother about their offense sens.

    And when we are offended by their beard or their weil what do hey do ? Do they take it off? NO. It is their religion , we have to respect it .

  38. duh swami says

    Dec 13, 2016 at 6:13 am

    I am offended by Allah, his book and his messenger..Because of that, I don’t care if the pious are offend or not…

  39. Angemon says

    Dec 13, 2016 at 6:45 am

    Fr Sante Braggiè said there would be no crib in the cemetery in the northern city of Cremona because it may anger people of others faiths or none whose relatives are buried there.

    All the same for the dead. If their relatives complain, they can dig them and bury them elsewhere.

    He also cited a lack of council workers to set up the crib as another reason for abandoning the tradition.

    How about handing flyers in church asking for volunteers for help setting up the Nativity scene? What are you using your noggin for?

    Corriere della Serra reports that Fr Braggiè’s predecessor as local priest, Fr Oreste Mori, strongly criticised the decision, saying: “Seriously? I can’t believe it!”

    “We cannot renounce our culture and traditions,” he said. “That would be an unpardonable weakness.”

    And he is absolutely right.

  40. Manny says

    Dec 13, 2016 at 7:24 am

    If they don’t want to be offended by a Nativity scene, then ship their coffins to Sadia Arabia.

  41. FYI says

    Dec 13, 2016 at 7:40 am

    Another clergyman who is a coward,a judas priest..pehaps he should convert to islam since he appears
    to have difficulties with Christianity..

  42. patriotliz says

    Dec 13, 2016 at 8:02 am

    Islam– victorious in its conquest of Italy.

  43. Florida Jim says

    Dec 13, 2016 at 10:00 am

    Muslims, like Democrats, easily offended and look for offense never thinking another one may have a different point of view.CAIR supports their bullying as does Obama.

  44. Charles says

    Dec 13, 2016 at 11:08 am

    The words and acts of the muslim will always seem incomprehensible and unbelievable UNTILL you understand the entire basics of THE CULT!
    Islam is a work of SATAN! And is all about having a TOOL to entice the Dummer humans to direct their worship away from God the Creator, and instead worship SATAN!
    That’s all you need to know!

  45. RK says

    Dec 13, 2016 at 11:23 am

    WAKE THE HELL UP PEOPLE THIS IS A TAKE OVER AND NOTHING BUT, AND U COWARDS WHO REFUSE TO FORCE THE LAWS AND RIGHTS OF ITS OWN PEOPLE. IF THESE OTHERS DON’T AND WON’T RESPECT THE PEOPLE AND COUNTRY THEY GO TO- THEN THEY MUST BE SET BACK- YA THATS RIGHT KICKED OUT, PERIOD! THIS IS 100% WRONG ON THE PART OF THOSE FORCING ITS OWN PEOPLE TO SWALLOW SUCH DISRESPECT FROM THESE OTHERS. ITS ASSIMILATE OR GET THE HELL OUT, ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!
    REMEMBER NO ONE HAD THIS PROBLEM UNTIL THESE OTHERS COME TO OUR COUNTRIES. WE ARE ALL IMMIGRANTS AND WE ALL LIVED JUST FINE WITH EACH OTHER UNLIKE THE MUSLIM POPULATION. AS THEY SAY: MAYBE NOT ALL MUSLIMS ARE TERRORIST- BUT ALL TERRORIST ARE MUSLIMS!

    SO WAKE UP PEOPLE, AND NOTE THEY OUTRIGHT SAY THEIR INTENTION IS TO TAKE OVER SO HELLO PEOPLE WHY IS THERE ANY DENIAL? WHY? WOW!

  46. Winston says

    Dec 13, 2016 at 1:34 pm

    The Lord works in mysterious ways.

    Maybe the local mayor can overrule this idiot?

  47. Carolyne says

    Dec 13, 2016 at 1:37 pm

    The birth of Jesus, and therefore the nativity, is the basis upon which Christians place their faith. While I am not one of you, I can see that this symbolic scene is precious to you, For this priest to deny its placement is to deny Christianity altogether.

    For his information, I am Atheist. It does not offend me.

  48. Ronen says

    Dec 14, 2016 at 1:05 am

    As an atheist I am offended by the actions of this imbecile. I love Christian tradition which could not be separated from Western culture in general.

    This shows like a thousand witnesses that the very root of the problems we are having with Islam lies within ourselves.

  49. Musalmaanmasala says

    Dec 14, 2016 at 2:00 am

    What next????
    Ban Good Friday and Easter as it will hurt these moon worshippers because Mohammed said in the Koran that Jesus “did not die on the cross and was not resurrected.”

  50. Debi Brand says

    Dec 14, 2016 at 4:04 am

    “Remember the rule: in Muslim countries, be careful to conform your behavior to Muslim sensibilities. And in non-Muslim countries, be careful to conform your behavior to Muslim sensibilities,” stated Robert Spencer, of lesson garnered from the details spelled out in the above article ….

    And why, I ask you, is the truth in Spencer’s statement so?

    I’ll tell you why: It is so, because, as the Qur’an declares, the Muslim knows, “… people who strive against Our Signs [(The Qur’an)], trying to nullify [–declare them meaningless–] such people will be summoned to the Punishment [and will not escape it].” (Surat Saba’ [Sheba]: 34:38; Tafsir Al-Jalalayn.)

    They likewise know….:

    Read the post: http://islamexposed.blogspot.com/2016/12/italian-priest-bows-to-god-of-muhammad.html

    • Rev g says

      Dec 14, 2016 at 5:36 am

      And regarding hollyweird:
      http://www.theblaze.com/news/2016/12/13/commentary-seth-macfarlane-family-guy-and-the-cowardice-of-hollywood/

      • gravenimage says

        Dec 14, 2016 at 9:15 pm

        Great article at The Blaze.

  51. Manuele says

    Dec 27, 2016 at 9:41 pm

    May satan have mercy on your timid soul STUPID IDIOT.

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