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Students at Brigham Young University don hijabs in solidarity with Muslims

Dec 18, 2016 9:50 am By Robert Spencer

These BYU students have ably signaled their virtue, and can now sit back and enjoy the rounds of applause they will receive from the enlightened and intelligent, but where is their concern of for Aqsa Parvez, whose Muslim father choked her to death with her hijab after she refused to wear it? Or Aqsa and Amina Muse Ali, a Christian woman in Somalia whom Muslims murdered because she wasn’t wearing a hijab? Or the 40 women who were murdered in Iraq in 2007 for not wearing the hijab; or Alya Al-Safar, whose Muslim cousin threatened to kill her and harm her family because she stopped wearing the hijab in Britain; or Amira Osman Hamid, who faced whipping in Sudan for refusing to wear the hijab; or the Egyptian girl, also named Amira, who committed suicide after being brutalized for her family for refusing to wear the hijab; or the Muslim and non-Muslim teachers at the Islamic College of South Australia who were told that they had to wear the hijab or be fired; or the women in Chechnya whom police shot with paintballs because they weren’t wearing hijab; or the women also in Chechnya who were threatened by men with automatic rifles for not wearing hijab; or the elementary school teachers in Tunisia who were threatened with death for not wearing hijab; or the Syrian schoolgirls who were forbidden to go to school unless they wore hijab; or the women in Gaza whom Hamas has forced to wear hijab; or the women in Iran who protested against the regime by daring to take off their legally-required hijab; or the women in London whom Muslim thugs threatened to murder if they didn’t wear hijab; or the anonymous young Muslim woman who doffed her hijab outside her home and started living a double life in fear of her parents, or all the other women and girls who have been killed or threatened, or who live in fear for daring not to wear the hijab?

Who is standing in solidarity with them? Those who taunt or brutalize hijab-wearing women are louts and creeps, and should be prosecuted if they commit any acts of violence. At the same time, the women who don’t wear hijab in Muslim countries are far more likely to be victims of violence than hijabis in the West. Who speaks for them?

“Hijab-wearing students activists SHOCK Christian university with Islamic protest,” by Oli Smith, Express, December 17, 2016:

A GROUP of Christian university students have covered themselves with the Islamic hijab with a shock protest in support for Muslims.

The protest at the Church-owned university has seen students don the traditional Islamic garment in solidarity with Muslims in the community.

For the past three weeks, the student activists at the Mormon-owned Brigham Young University, in Utah, USA, have shocked campus with their newfound Islamic fashion.

Most students at the university are members of the Christian Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

However, these activists, most of whom are majoring in Middle Eastern studies, say they want to spread diversity and fight discrimination.

They insist the group’s effort sends a message that Muslims are not alone.

A Facebook page called On Wednesdays We Wear Hijab organises the protest and asks other students to join them by wearing a hijab every Wednesday.

The group say they will continue with their solidarity protest into the new year.

One of the protesting students, Sondra Sasser, explained: “A lot of Muslims are feeling uncomfortable about things.

“They are feeling scared about things or just misunderstood, and so any show of solidarity I think can be touching.”

She dismissed any controversy around the protest, which has raised eyebrows around campus, as people “getting excited about seeing diversity”….

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  1. StacyGirl says

    Dec 18, 2016 at 9:53 am

    For the complete solidarity experience they all need to have their genitals mutilated and drivers licenses revoked.

    • Lynette says

      Dec 19, 2016 at 1:53 am

      Hear, Hear! These girls are naive, silly little gullible females. If moslims are feeling misunderstood, and if they want to be accepted, there are lots of things they can do. For a start put pressure on mosques NOT to lecture that it is OK to use deceit, lies, murder, rioting etc, put a STOP to kidnappings, rapings, FGM, beating women, tortures, murders, sadistic, evil punishments, beheadings, stonings, blaming females for rape, letting rapists completely off or getting short sentences, NOT making the victim marry their rapist/s bludging on welfare, not working, STOP having more than 1 wife and 1 family, STOP digging tunnels to kill sleeping Israelis, STOP random stabbings, STOP car/truck random murders, STOP using humans as shields in war, STOP murdering Christians and people just because they think differently and have another faith, STOP all the atrocities moslims love to do across the world. STOP the brainwashing of children, STOP the training of children to maim, stab, murder, hate, etc. You should get my drift by now. When moslims act with compassion,empathy instead of sadistic actions, when they assimilate into the country that takes them in where they will be safe, they will be more acceptable but until then people like myself will STOP helping them! Hear, Hear! These girls are naive, silly little gullible females. If moslims are feeling misunderstood, and if they want to be accepted, there are lots of things they can do. For a start put pressure on mosques NOT to lecture that it is OK to use deceit, lies, murder, rioting etc, put a STOP to kidnappings, rapings, FGM, beating women, tortures, murders, sadistic, evil punishments, beheadings, stonings, blaming females for rape, letting rapists completely off or getting short sentences, NOT making the victim marry their rapist/s bludging on welfare, not working, STOP having more than 1 wife and 1 family, STOP digging tunnels to kill sleeping Israelis, STOP random stabbings, STOP car/truck random murders, STOP using humans as shields in war, STOP murdering Christians and people just because they think differently and have another faith, STOP all the atrocities moslims love to do across the world. STOP the brainwashing of children, STOP the training of children to maim, stab, murder, hate, etc. STOP forcing sharia in the West, we WILL NEVER accept that. When moslims act with compassion, empathy instead of sadistic actions when they assimilate into the country that takes them in where they will be safe, they will be more acceptable but until then people like myself will STOP helping them! You should get my drift by now.

      • Real McCoy says

        Dec 19, 2016 at 5:00 am

        These six girls looks like the slaves from Tombouctou. The Christian girls can be brainwash easy most of them are stupid and lunatic.

        • harbidoll says

          Dec 19, 2016 at 7:21 am

          no it was His love that drew us. But we had the freedom to Choose His love & religion. Muslimas dont!! Are Muslims willing to be beaten or honor-killed for Christ? We shall see! All Mormons face is “shunning” if they change their religion.

      • Denny says

        Dec 19, 2016 at 8:27 am

        Excellent post. Tolerance mandates a two-way street, an impossibility for those who embrace Islam.

      • Brian Hoff says

        Dec 19, 2016 at 11:16 am

        Just regular racist islamoprobic remark make famous by bigot robert spencer and company. I goto firday prayer than I never hear of any iman who tell the mosque member to do just acts.

        • Paul Ashley says

          Dec 19, 2016 at 11:41 am

          Islam is not a race and there us no such thing as Islamophobia.

        • Gene says

          Dec 20, 2016 at 1:33 am

          Well, it’s probably true that no Imam ever told you to “do just acts.”

      • Pete Dixon says

        Dec 19, 2016 at 1:10 pm

        you are right and I agree. this is war, we MUST fight to eliminate islam. Fight as they do. no one can fight by rules against an enemy that has no rules. two eyes, testicles, penises, tongues, for one tooth. Fight like your lives depended on it, cause it does. Do not sit by as your women are raped, sold, murdered, children too. Oh hell, men are put into the war front or are beheaded outright. This against God and humanity.

      • BC says

        Dec 22, 2016 at 7:38 am

        Well Mormonism is a made up religion. actually founded by a charlatan, so they have a lot in common with Islam for a start

    • Carolyne says

      Dec 19, 2016 at 10:09 am

      If joseph Smith took a look at these ladies, he would likely see them as prime wife material. At least he wouldn’t go sex-crazed at the sight of their hair. Oh yeah, that would be Muslim men. Sorry.

    • Wm McDannold Jr says

      Dec 19, 2016 at 10:24 am

      The Mormons are convinced they can convert ANYONE.

      • Gene says

        Dec 20, 2016 at 1:31 am

        No, Mormons are convinced that everyone should have the opportunity to hear their message. Conversion is up to the listener.

    • Tom says

      Dec 19, 2016 at 10:26 am

      This is the reason women were not allowed to vote for so long ! Gullible, simple-minded children, that know nothing about the real world. If you did an indepth interview with them, I would be willing to bet most of them believe that 9/11 was an American government conspiracy.

      • Carolyne says

        Dec 19, 2016 at 3:36 pm

        I disagree. I doubt they could even say what happened on 9/11.

    • B. Polhemus says

      Dec 19, 2016 at 11:09 am

      It’s true that predominately Muslim societies in Africa practice female circumcision.

      It’s true that the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, a Muslim nation, does not allow women to drive.

      You are conflating cultural aspects of specific places, with “all of Islam.”

      If you want to see an Islamic country that is very much fighting to roll back the historical oppression of women, look at Pakistan.

      • Carolyne says

        Dec 19, 2016 at 3:40 pm

        Pakistan? Pakistan? Isn’t that where that silly girl got shot in the head because she was advocating for education for women? Doesn’t Pakistan harbor terrorists and didn’t the Pakistan army harbor Bin Ladin?

        You might want to choose another country. Pakistan takes our money and works against us.

    • Marty says

      Dec 19, 2016 at 11:42 am

      Well said.
      Any female who submits to polygamy is a self
      loathing masochist.
      What sort of garbage do they learn at this so called university ?

      • Gene says

        Dec 20, 2016 at 1:44 am

        Not polygamy. Generally, they teach science, music, English, languages, history, law, ect. They are taught respect and service for others, love of the Constitution and freedom, ect. Generally, all the politically incorrect stuff that isn’t taught in public universities. But all the students come from other schools where they’ve been exposed to the liberal education system, so there will always be a few ignorant liberals who make it in. But these girls are not typical of BYU, which is very conservative.

    • Ken says

      Dec 19, 2016 at 2:07 pm

      “Christian university”???!!!!

      Mormons are not Christian. The Mormon church teaches that God is an exalted man from another planet. The Jesus and Satan are our older brothers from the spirit world born to “their Fathers” wife, the queen of heaven; and that they can become gods of their own planet if they belong to their church and keep all their commandments.

      However, it should come as no surprise that they agree with Muslims since they have so much in common. Both prophets were visited by angels that delivered “restored truth”. Both teach that the Bible has been corrupted and changed. Both teach that the men can have eternal sex with harems of women if they reach the pinnacle of their religions. Both teach that their “holy books” were written on plates. There are more but that ought to be enough.

      • Carolyne says

        Dec 19, 2016 at 3:44 pm

        Joseph Smith bought a mummy case from a travelling circus. He said he could read the hieroglyphics because they were in “New Egyptian” (A language which doesn’t exist.) Some of their belief comes from that mummy case as well as a talking lizard.

        I don’t care if people want to worship a lampshade. Just don’t count me in. Especially with that magic underwear.

        • EyeSurgeon says

          Dec 19, 2016 at 4:49 pm

          Slight correction on the above–Joseph Smith reported that the Book of Mormon plates (not the Egyptian papyri) were written in “Reformed Egyptian”, not “New Egyptian”, and the characters he copied from the plates are very similar to Meroitic, one of the many types of Egyptian reformed through the ages (Hieroglyphic, Demotic, and cuneiform being several of the others). The Egyptian papyri Smith purchased formed the basis for revelations contained in the Book of Abraham in what Mormons call the “Pearl of Great Price”, which also contains a revelation enlarging the first chapters of Genesis, and a record of Smith’s personal history in the early Church. The ‘talking lizard’ comment was actually based on a modern forged document by Mark Fuhrman, and has no bearing on actual Mormon history. The ‘magic underwear’ comment is a derisive description of the Mormon temple garment, which Mormons wear to remind themselves of personal covenants and commitments they have made with God.

    • ninetyninepct says

      Dec 21, 2016 at 1:25 am

      They are publicly declaring they accept the fact they are second class humans, that they few rights other than to provide sex on demand, and that they cannot testify against a male. The list goes on and on and on.

      With that in mind, there are a few that should be raped and then stoned to death and three could be sold for a good price. The prettier ones would be retained to use.

  2. Buford says

    Dec 18, 2016 at 9:56 am

    That does not surprise me Mormonism is a cult & a false religion almost as bad as as Islam with the only difference being the Mormons do not kill or terrorize

    • R Russell says

      Dec 18, 2016 at 11:47 am

      Have you researched what Mormons may do if they don’t get their own way?

      • Gene says

        Dec 20, 2016 at 1:28 am

        Yes. They’ll wish you well and still be your friend. And if you are trying to push for gay marriage or late term abortion, they might even campaign and vote against you. And if you try to murder them they might call the police, defend themselves with a legally owned firearm, or move to Utah. (Unless they are Harry Reid, in which case he’ll do something the Church doesn’t approve of.)

    • Rob Hoey says

      Dec 18, 2016 at 12:04 pm

      every religion is a cult if it isn’t yours

      • Dan says

        Dec 18, 2016 at 6:06 pm

        A religious cult is an organization where the leader is thought more of than God.
        Muslims Muhammad Mormons Joseph Smith David Koresh, Jim Jones, etc

        • Billy Lynch says

          Dec 19, 2016 at 12:49 am

          Good point amigo. Cults follow an earthly leader like pedophile Muhammad or mentally unbalanced teenager like Joseph Smith.

          Muhammad was a violent, barbaric warlord who slaughtered many “infidels” while Jesus Christ was a man of peace who healed the sick, fed the hungry and raised the dead.

        • Lynette says

          Dec 19, 2016 at 1:56 am

          Why are my comments when posted get the reply: You have already said that, when I have not! How to stop this?

        • Richard says

          Dec 19, 2016 at 4:32 am

          testing

        • Gene says

          Dec 20, 2016 at 1:55 am

          Then, by your definition, Mormonism is not a cult. Joseph Smith is not “thought more of than God.” He is not equal to God. He is not considered to be perfect (like Muhammad). He is not prayed to. In Mormonism the focus is on God and Jesus. And here is a news flash, every religion has leaders. Moses, Samuel, Elijah, Jesus, Peter, John, Paul, the Pope, Martin Luther, Calvin, etc.

    • Howard says

      Dec 18, 2016 at 12:45 pm

      It is totally correct to critique these fluff-brained co-eds for their confusion and misplaced concern; however, to equate their ignorance with the evils of islam is equally ignorant. To state that “the only difference being the Mormons do not kill or terrorize” is a statement that identifies the salient point as to why Robert’s site exists. Were the followers of Mohammed to become as peaceful as those devout Mormons, we would have no need to be posting on any jihad focused sites. None of these students or any of their friends are going to assault those who refuse to accept what they perceive as the superiority of Mormonism. As illogical and as uninviting one might find their faith to be, no one needs wonder if any of the followers intend to assault their non-member neighbors. Perhaps the fault might lie at the foot of those determining the curriculum for the middle-east studies department. Obviously, they are not receiving any “divine inspiration” regarding the truth of what these students should be taught.

      • somehistory says

        Dec 18, 2016 at 2:02 pm

        Well-stated.

      • gravenimage says

        Dec 18, 2016 at 8:36 pm

        True, Howard.

        And it is hardly as though Mormons are the only ones engaging in this sort of idiocy. This has been happening at numerous colleges. Just check out “World Hijab Day”.

    • Ed Lee says

      Dec 18, 2016 at 2:29 pm

      You are correct Buford, Mormons do not kill or terrorize. But, if you decline their invitation to join their religion, they will vandalize and burglarize your property. I have direct, personal experience in the matter.

      • Expat88 says

        Dec 18, 2016 at 4:26 pm

        I have never heard of anything like that before regarding Mormons and their proselytizing. If something like that has ever happened it would definitely be an exception to the rule.

        • somehistory says

          Dec 18, 2016 at 4:32 pm

          Neither have I and I have spoken to a lot of them over the years. They value their book of mormon over the Bible, but I have never been threatened or robbed, etc. by any.

        • E Wood says

          Dec 18, 2016 at 5:16 pm

          As a not so proud graduate of the above mentioned university, let me put this in perspective. Mormons have been very insular throughout their history. The newer generation is beginning through the internet to become much more aware of world events. Mormons tend to be extremely well- intentioned (to the point of being very annoying) and extremely naive. These girls think they are doing a good thing. They haven’t the first clue that the hijab is required by law in Iran and Saudi Arabia, or what a symbol of oppression it is to millions of women around the world. Instead of proclaiming their solidarity with the very few Muslims who attend BYU, they would do much more good by encouraging their Muslim friends to consider what the hijab means to women who wear them not out of piety, but out of force. Bottom line–: BYU coeds are goofy.

      • gravenimage says

        Dec 18, 2016 at 8:47 pm

        I’ve been proselytized by Mormons many times–including at my home–and while I found them rather annoying, they have never vandalized or burglarized my home.

        I tried Googling, and all I found was this:

        “Fake Mormon Missionaries Rob Home at Gunpoint”

        http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2013/08/fake-mormon-missionaries-rob-home-at-gunpoint/

        Might your experience be related to this? Certainly, I could not find a single reference to actual Mormon missionaries robbing or vandalizing homes.

      • Ashley says

        Dec 18, 2016 at 9:11 pm

        * some Mormons will vandalize you. Not “Mormons” in general. You had one anecdotal experience of a small group out of tens of millions. To apply the behavior of a fraction of the population to the majority of the population is illogical and completely irrational.

      • Gene says

        Dec 20, 2016 at 1:21 am

        I think you’re making that up.

    • Custos Custodum says

      Dec 18, 2016 at 9:56 pm

      BYU has quite a few non-Mormon students. The reference to “Christian university students” may refer to a group of self-described “Christians” (of other denominations) rather than Mormons.

      The key point is that these are students “most of whom are majoring in Middle Eastern studies.” In other words, they are preemptively sucking up to Muslim countries where they are likely to visit or work. The more savvy government officials in Muslim countries are well aware of the prototype of hypocritical, virtue-signalling Western woman who are fundamentally untrustworthy.

      • Billy Lynch says

        Dec 19, 2016 at 12:52 am

        Wrong. The British journalist who wrote this article does NOT know the difference between Mormonism and real Christianity. Like most European secularists, he doesnt know squat about American religion.

    • Carolyne says

      Dec 19, 2016 at 10:14 am

      In In 1857 a group of Mormons disguised themselves as Indians and attacked a wagon train headed west. Killed every man, woman and child on the train. Mountain Meadows Massacre. They don’t do that anymore, though, but in some areas Mormon men do have harems and marry children. i.e. that Warren Jeffs beast.

      • EyeSurgeon says

        Dec 20, 2016 at 11:30 am

        To be accurate, Mormons do not practice polygamy (not since the 1890’s). Warren Jeffs and other currently-practicing polygamist groups are not members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. They have formed their own groups outside the Mormon church. Any member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints who adopts polygamy or marries a child would be subject to excommunication.

        • Quiet_Dave says

          Dec 20, 2016 at 2:40 pm

          Thanks, EyeSurgeon, for correcting the record, so many times. I’m glad someone is fighting the slanders.

  3. Mac-101 says

    Dec 18, 2016 at 9:58 am

    No offence intended to our Mormon friends, but wasn’t The Church of Latter Day Saints the first to do a major reach out to Islam before ALL the rest of the Protestants and Catholics?

    • E Wood says

      Dec 18, 2016 at 5:24 pm

      The Mormon leadership has been reeling from all the bad press the church has been getting lately, and the mass desertion of its membership. The Big 15 were trying to get some good press. The leadership is a group of geriatric meatballs who mis-read every possible situation. Most of them don’t know how to use the internet. The general membership are just people who are really trying to do the right thing. They have zero input into what the leadership says or does. Whatcha gonna do?

      • Carolyne says

        Dec 19, 2016 at 10:17 am

        Whatcha goinna do? Well, the first thing is to realize you have been a victim of a ridiculous hoax by a “religion” who’s leader dictated his holy book through stones in his hat.

        • E Wood says

          Dec 19, 2016 at 5:42 pm

          Easier said than done.

        • Gene says

          Dec 20, 2016 at 1:18 am

          As opposed to Paul who heard a voice coming out of a bright light? (Acts 26:13-14)

  4. Dov Berrol says

    Dec 18, 2016 at 10:23 am

    Good. I hope they have to go through extra security screening at airports and train stations and shopping malls. These Muslim symbols help us Kufar identify more easily who may be a suicide jihadi bomber. When it comes to defending ourselves from the ongoing Jihad World War, I have no problem with “religious profiling”!

    • Cynthia in California says

      Dec 18, 2016 at 7:26 pm

      You’re not alone.

    • Carolyne says

      Dec 19, 2016 at 10:19 am

      But the problem is that Muslims go through less security checks than the rest of us. My 83 year old sister-in-law, in a wheelchair, was made to stand while they searched her.

  5. Christianblood says

    Dec 18, 2016 at 10:24 am

    Majority of Western postmodernist societies and governments love and adore islam and muslims, including muslim jihadists but demonize and denigrate Christians and other victims of the global jihad.

    • Angemon says

      Dec 18, 2016 at 10:45 am

      Citation needed.

    • gravenimage says

      Dec 18, 2016 at 8:52 pm

      And yet, it is the Russian Church chiding us not not importing *more* violent Muslims:

      “West should learn from Russia to accept Muslim refugees – Patriarch Kirill”

      http://www.interfax-religion.com/?act=news&div=12354

  6. Diane Harvey says

    Dec 18, 2016 at 10:25 am

    Two peas from the same pod,

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_and_Mormonism

    • Gene says

      Dec 20, 2016 at 1:12 am

      What an idiotic list of “similarities.” Most of the claimed similarities apply to most other Christian religions. “emphasis upon family,” “emphasis upon chastity,” “interest in proselytizing,” “emphasis upon education,” prohibition of “homosexual and bisexual practices.” Other similarities are not similarities at all or come from completely different concepts. Mormons do reject “original sin” because they don’t believe you inherit sin (Babies are innocent and don’t go to hell when they are murdered in the womb or die before they can wall). However, saying that Mormonism is similar to Islam because their founder were married to older women is completely meaningless (almost like saying they were both male). And Mormons do abstain from alcohol, but all of these supposed “similarities” are substantially different from Islamic beliefs.For example, the Mormon belief in doing good deeds is based on Jesus’ second commandment “loving your neighbor” (Matt. 28:34-10) and applies to all mankind. Good works in Islam is only required for other Muslims. Also, secular education is not emphasized all that much in Islam.

      Mormons do have a different view on the form of the Trinity than most other Christian sects, but their view of God and Jesus are nothing like Islam.

      When Mormonism is compared to Islam it is usually done by ignorant bigots who are seeking to insult the church. And occasionally, it comes from the vary rare liberal nitwit in the church who knows nothing about Islam and who is trying to make nice with the poor Muslims. Like the six people in the photo, assuming that they are actually Mormons.

      • Quiet_Dave says

        Dec 20, 2016 at 2:45 pm

        Thanks, for the defense, Gene.

  7. mgoldberg says

    Dec 18, 2016 at 10:25 am

    I guess sympathy for all those christians mutilated, murdered, churches destroyed in nations where muslims demand their rule, will be replaced with sympathy for those muslims who feel uncomfortable that they live in a non muslim ruled nation, where no one is supposed to feel the predominance of rule.
    This should be explored if the university has an ounce of intellectual, moral, or ethical bone in their body.
    Otherwise, it’s a sad sorrowful tale of self perception disorder on the part of those women.

    Oh… and that most of the tales of hate crimes agains muslims are faked, manufactured, and or untrue, as well as the increase of attacks upon jews, christians, and others by muslims as very much real, might be worthy of consideration by the sorority of the self deception disorder there.

  8. JawsV says

    Dec 18, 2016 at 10:30 am

    So revolting I have no words.

  9. ibrahim itace muhammed says

    Dec 18, 2016 at 10:33 am

    so mr spencer,you are an advocate for nudity and antimodesty for women simply because islam requires it.you consider it sign of civilisation for women to work naked exposing atracting parts of their body.we ,muslims, consider it a sign of jahiliyya(darkness)reducing value and diginity of woman.look at these christian students are they not showing departure from that barbarous and savage way of life in christian world?mr spencer may not appreciate the wisdom behind modest dressing for women because his mind is corrupted.

    • Eur says

      Dec 18, 2016 at 10:40 am

      It is time to remember minorities in Muslim-majority countries. Especially a hug for the yazidies of Syria and Christians of Egypt. No Muslim gestures of solidarity towards them.

    • Kay says

      Dec 18, 2016 at 10:43 am

      If this were only about head scarves there would be no jihad watch. The headscarf issue is the tip of the iceberg. The young co-eds are unaware of the rest of Mohammeden thought and practice that’s why they erroneously believe they show solidarity by decorating their heads.

      “Modesty” is a non-issue. There are many ways to be modest.

      • PRCS says

        Dec 18, 2016 at 11:29 am

        It’s hard to know, Kay.

        “these activists, most of whom are majoring in Middle Eastern studies”

        However…

        “One of the protesting students, Sondra Sasser, explained: “A lot of Muslims are feeling uncomfortable about things.

        “They are feeling scared about things or just misunderstood, and so any show of solidarity I think can be touching.”

        She dismissed any controversy around the protest, which has raised eyebrows around campus, as people “getting excited about seeing diversity“.

        That young woman, in particular, is either enrolled in a Middle Eastern studies program which doesn’t actually study the Middle East, or she’s not paying attention to the professor.

        My two cents.

        • Kay says

          Dec 18, 2016 at 12:06 pm

          Yes, it’s hard to know. I tend to think they’re ignorant if enthusiastic because that’s how I was at that age (different issues, but that mindset).

          The other thing is that we didn’t know who funds the Middle East studies program. Our country, including universities, has slowly come to accept more and more Mohammeden influence, starting decades ago.

        • somehistory says

          Dec 18, 2016 at 2:14 pm

          Many, if not most or even all, of the *professors* I have read about who *teach* Middle Eastern Studies, are moslim.

          One will not get the truth about islam…or anything else…from a moslim professor, no matter which university is involved.

        • myworld2 says

          Dec 18, 2016 at 4:57 pm

          This is wrong …more important they should ‘introduce’ them to some of our own customs …This is OUR country and welcome only if they obey our laws! ….and welcome them into their own Mormon Church … I’m certain the muslim families would not be so ‘co-operative .’ !!!! They may be playing with fire …

    • Eur says

      Dec 18, 2016 at 10:48 am

      A hug also for Muslim girls who are forced to wear hijab or similar prayers and no Muslim gestures of solidarity. There is no day without hijab to support these girls, it does not exist in musulmania nor in the free world.

    • Angemon says

      Dec 18, 2016 at 10:51 am

      Hi there, Ebionite. You wrote:

      “so mr spencer,you are an advocate for nudity and antimodesty for women simply because islam requires it.you consider it sign of civilisation for women to work naked”

      Who here said anything even remotely resembling that? Are you a professional strawman builder or something?

      • American Pragmatism says

        Dec 18, 2016 at 11:13 am

        Yes he is. Because Muslims don’t have the light or the truth they argue with taqiya and without reason — pure sophistry.

        • Cynthia in California says

          Dec 18, 2016 at 7:30 pm

          There’s the word the undergraduates at BYU aren’t aware of (and prob. b/c most of the Mid-Eastern Studies instructors/profs are Muslim, as stated by a commenter above):

          Taqiyya
          Taqiyya
          Taqiyya

          One simply CANNOT trust what a Muslim is saying, if one isn’t also a Muslim. The Koran/Quran/whatever spelling today instructs its followers to lie with words, with the body, with (apparent) friendship to non-believers, so as to induce them to convert, to become “friends,” or to fulfill any other objective the Muslim desires.

          Good Lord; how can we let these young, unsophisticated women know about taqiyya???

        • Carolyne says

          Dec 19, 2016 at 10:31 am

          Most likely he is a college professor–a Professor of Middle East Studies–funded by Saudi Arabia. He only wishes women worked naked. In fact, Mohammed said that slave women could be naked from the waist up–as they work, presumably.

    • Phil Copson says

      Dec 18, 2016 at 10:57 am

      Barbarity and savagery is Islam’s speciality, Ibrahim., not ours, and what women wear in a free society is none of your damned business.

      Suggest you spend less time thinking about white women, and more time apologising for the 1400 years of invasion, rape, mutilation, theft, intimidation, slavery, and genocidal murder that your supremacist death cult has brought to the world.

      • Cynthia in California says

        Dec 18, 2016 at 7:32 pm

        Tears of Jihad (https://www.politicalislam.com/tears-of-jihad/) estimated, as of 3 March 2008, that Islam was responsible for the deaths of at least 270 million (2.7×10^8) people since its inception.

        A lot of death by Islamic terrorists, soldiers, etc., has gone down since then, too….

        • Expat88 says

          Dec 19, 2016 at 5:04 am

          You are so correct! The biggest mass murder in history happened with the Islamic subjugation of the Indian subcontinent.

    • Eur says

      Dec 18, 2016 at 10:59 am

      Christian world? Jajajaj your ignorance and sectarianism is supine. There has never been anything like sharia, in the West we have civil laws evolved throughout civilization. Not all countries have the same laws and customs, not even within the same country. Our laws are improveable, we admit, but they are always reasoned and consensual. As for customs … is always the basis of human rights (sounds like?). We are all equal, we all have the same rights … and women in particular can dress as they please and although Someone bothering you … fuck you.

      • Carolyne says

        Dec 19, 2016 at 10:33 am

        Although I have not seen American women doing so, they can work naked if they wish whether or not this idiot likes it. It’s none of his business.

    • American Pragmatism says

      Dec 18, 2016 at 11:10 am

      We are for freedom. It is in our gauranteed in our constitution. Many here have and will foght for freedom.

      If God wanted sharia on earth he would implement it. God has given us freedom from birth, muslims wish to enslave man.

      • Kay says

        Dec 18, 2016 at 11:31 am

        Interesting point. Yes, God created us naked . . . but being the author of freedom, He doesn’t require that either.
        — but I’m off topic. Sorry.

    • P2 says

      Dec 18, 2016 at 12:59 pm

      Straw man argument. Choice is the operative word here.

    • Norbert says

      Dec 18, 2016 at 2:02 pm

      “so mr spencer,you are an advocate for nudity and antimodesty for women simply because islam requires it.”

      The very fact that you could write this indicates your total lack of understanding of logic, not to mention western culture. First, we do not agree on the meaning of nudity and “anti-modesty”. Second, “because islam requires it” is in no way the reason for our cultural mores. If Muslims were not sitting on top of oil reserves or constantly blowing themselves and other up with bombs, we wouldn’t think of you at all: you mean that little in our lives. To put it bluntly, discussing such things with people like yourself is akin to discussing particle physics with a 3 year old pig: The animal understands nothing and simply becomes annoyed.

      • Carolyne says

        Dec 19, 2016 at 10:35 am

        Kindly do not insult pigs. Thank you.

    • Laura says

      Dec 18, 2016 at 2:14 pm

      Ibrahim. Once a week on Wednesdays these students make a statement concerning their very limited views, given their age on a popular politically corrrect topic. This doesn’t make them heros or even empathetic to your views on women or nakidness. In fact it does just the opposit since it’s easy to wear a hijab within the comfort and safety of America and their parents livingrooms! Put them out in the real world and try and make them wear these hijabs and you will see a complete 180 in their attitudes.
      In other words they are sensationalist phonys trying to make a statement that essentially falls on deaf ears because it’s false and only feeds into their own delusions of being supportive of muslim women. Had they bothered to do the same research that clearly Mr. Spencer has, they would have burned those hijabs as a show of strength, solidarity, and freedom in support of the victimized women in your culture.
      These are clueless millennials that have not experienced or even paid attention to the monsterous atrocities that the extremists is your culture embrace. Furthermore it is because of the many that have died before they were even born to keep America free that they enjoy the priviledge on donning those silly rags and making a political statement that they don’t even understand.

    • JawsV says

      Dec 18, 2016 at 2:43 pm

      Just can it, Muslim. It’s your mind (if you have one) that’s corrupted. Islam is a corrupt ideology.

    • gravenimage says

      Dec 18, 2016 at 9:16 pm

      Foul apologist for Muslim savagery ibrahim itace muhammed wrote:

      so (sic) mr (sic) spencer,you (sic) are an advocate for nudity and antimodesty (sic) for women simply because islam (sic) requires it.you (sic) consider it sign of civilisation for women to work naked exposing atracting (sic) parts of their body.
      …………………………….

      Women who eschew the Hijab are not “naked”–how ignorant is this Mohamemdan?

      More:

      we ,muslims, (sic) consider it a sign of jahiliyya(darkness)reducing (sic) value and diginity (sic) of woman.
      …………………………….

      Note: this vicious Mohammedan has no problem with his coreligonists for murdering women who dare resist the Hijab. And he has never condemned rape or child marriage or “Honor Killing” here, even when challenged to do so. So much for his concern for the “diginity” of women.

      More:

      look (sic) at these christian (sic) students are they not showing departure from that barbarous and savage way of life in christian (sic) world?mr (sic) spencer (sic) may not appreciate the wisdom behind modest dressing for women because his mind is corrupted.
      …………………………….

      Wearing the veil has nothing to do with “modesty”. Here’s Qur’an 33:59:

      “O Prophet! Tell thy wives and daughters, and the believing women, that they should cast their outer garments over their persons when abroad: that is most convenient, that they should be known as such and not molested. And Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.”

      The key point here is “not molested”. In other words, Muslims are free to rape any woman who is *not* veiled.

      That is, in fact, just what Muslim clerics confirm.

      Here’s more on this vile phenomenon:

      “To Rape an Unveiled Woman”

      http://archive.frontpagemag.com/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=5347

      *This* is what this Muslim thug considers “civilized”. *Ugh*.

      • Cynthia in California says

        Dec 19, 2016 at 12:25 am

        Unfortunately, this is a useful link for those who don’t understand the Muslim male obsession with “uncovered meat.”

        *sigh*

        Thank you, gravenimage (I think).

    • no_one says

      Dec 19, 2016 at 1:18 am

      If you don’t like the Christian world, stay in yours. Leave us alone. We do not want your “culture”. I don’t care what you satan god wants. I don’t care about the phyco, killer pedophile savage you call prophet.

  10. August West says

    Dec 18, 2016 at 10:40 am

    This kind of thing happens at all Unversities and is not Mormon or BYU specific.

    This is the result of naive young kids that have been brainwashed trying to “make the world better”.

    It is not fair to blame Mormonism per se except to the extent that they are not teaching their kids the truth about Islam.
    Which is a very common theme…

    • Kay says

      Dec 18, 2016 at 11:32 am

      True, August.

    • Carolyne says

      Dec 19, 2016 at 3:55 pm

      I can’t really say that Mormons are teaching their children the truth about Islam. I have no evidence of that either way but clearly, these girls have not been enlightened with the truth about Islam.

  11. ed cox says

    Dec 18, 2016 at 10:44 am

    After studying the LDS intensely , I find they are much closer to islam than they have ever been to Christ . Both teach another Jesus , Another God , and gospel .They both have a view of heaven where sex is the main reason to hope ( the only difference is that every LDS male thinks he will be a God when he dies ).

    • Jack Diamond says

      Dec 18, 2016 at 11:45 am

      An LDS missionary who worked in the Middle East and married a Palestinian Muslim, authored something called “MormonMuslim” about just how similarly they see things (absent the whitewash of Islamic hate, violence, conquest, tyranny, and misogyny).
      http://mormonmuslim.com/index.html

      the activists “most of whom are majoring in Middle Eastern studies {bingo} say they want to spread diversity and fight discrimination {on behalf of the most intolerant cult on earth}. Hopefully, they will be taking their show to the home of diversity and of fighting discrimination, Saudi Arabia (or Iraq or Iran or anywhere Islam dominates and permeates…maybe try exotic Pakistan). Your mission awaits, habibis.
      Keep smiling.

      • gravenimage says

        Dec 18, 2016 at 9:34 pm

        Yes–these all being Middle Easter Studies students is likely quite salient.

      • Gene says

        Dec 20, 2016 at 2:09 am

        The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints does not have missionaries in the Middle East (with the possible exception of Welfare missionaries, people provide welfare services, the don’t proselytize). The reason is both missionaries and converts would be murdered by the wonderful Muslims in the Middle East. However, the Church does try to maintain good relations with all countries in hopes that things will change in the future and to protect the few member that do live in Muslim countries. The Church does also believe that there is truth in all religions (though I am hard pressed to find any in Islam.)

    • Gene says

      Dec 20, 2016 at 2:45 am

      I’m glad you spent five minutes intensely studying Mormonism (probably with someone who thought his dad talked to a Mormon once and didn’t like them because his paster told him not to and that Jews murdered Jesus). Mormons don’t believe in a “heaven where sex is the main reason to hope;” they believe that marriage can continue in the next life. And Mormons don’t think you become a god when you die. The goal is to become perfect like God (Deut. 18:13), and you have eternity to work on it. Your oversimplification of the subject proves you don’t know what you are talking about.

  12. Mike9a says

    Dec 18, 2016 at 10:55 am

    What are they smiling about?
    And one day someone is going to marry these imbeciles. Why they do not simply move to any of those “beautiful”, COVERED countrie and enjoy and smile stoneage!

    • Kay says

      Dec 18, 2016 at 11:34 am

      They’re smiling about being together with friends, maybe about doing something that seems a little daring (being a little different), about getting attention in a safe way.

      They aren’t aware of all the real issues.

  13. American Pragmatism says

    Dec 18, 2016 at 11:08 am

    It is ironic. These kids likely consider themselves so smart.

    • PRCS says

      Dec 18, 2016 at 11:31 am

      …consider themselves smarter than the rest of us.

  14. Richard Paulsen says

    Dec 18, 2016 at 11:38 am

    Wondering whether these intellectual girls could sell Bibles in muslim countries? In solidarity with Christians. As the Quran is allowed in the western world. In solidarity with muslims.

    • Richard Paulsen says

      Dec 18, 2016 at 11:47 am

      P.S. Not criticising islam and the Quran, but the Western world.

    • Carolyne says

      Dec 19, 2016 at 10:52 am

      In the past, young Mormon men were required to spend two years abroad (Or from Utah) attempting to convert what they consider to be “Gentiles.” I think young women are now also required. The original intent was for the old men to snatch up young girls to add to their harems while the boys were away.
      So if Mormon girls are now required to serve their two years as propagandists, I think a suitable place for them to try that would be Saudi Arabia or Iran.

      Even today the polygamous Mormon colonies eject young men from their “Flock” with no means of support and little if any education. This is to make it easy for the “Elders” to marry girl children. If they had to compete with young men, they might not get as many as they wish. These young men who are taken to a remote place and left are called “Lost Boys.” Their mothers, believing the crap they are taught by the elders, for the most part don’t object to this mistreatment of their sons. After all, God wills it. Warren Jeffs told them so.

      • Gene says

        Dec 20, 2016 at 2:21 am

        I’m sorry Carolyne, but you are an idiot. Missions were not created so old men could create “harems.” There are some polygamous groups that are not associated with the Mormon Church. I don’t know much about them, but given the baseless and false comments that you’ve made about mainstream Mormonism, I have no reason to believe anything that you say.

  15. 762x51FMJ says

    Dec 18, 2016 at 11:39 am

    Once upon a midnight dreary, while I pondered, weak and weary,
    Over many a quaint and curious Qur’an surah–
    While I nodded, nearly napping, suddenly there came a tapping,
    As of some one gently rapping, rapping at my chamber door.
    “‘Tis a Mormon ” I muttered, “tapping at my chamber door—
    Only this and nothing more.”

    • gravenimage says

      Dec 18, 2016 at 9:37 pm

      🙂

    • Carolyne says

      Dec 19, 2016 at 10:54 am

      Ah, distinctly I remember………LOL

  16. ibrahim itace muhammed says

    Dec 18, 2016 at 12:17 pm

    eur,why you people do not want study history for better understanding of issues.if you are from the united states, just consult john maqdisi a professor of law from north carolina university;he will tell you that english common law applicable in most jurisdictions in the west originated from sharia.that is, almost all legal concepts were borrowed from sharia law as a result norman’s contact with muslim jurists in sicily and spain when muslims were rulers there.the local customs of various communities in the united kingdom were molded and married to sharia legal concepts that gave rise to common law exported to the united states and other parts of the west and it continued developing uptil now.muslims did the same thing to human sciences like greek philosophy,egyptian and chine mathematic and medicine, married them together and systematised them,which gave rise to subject areas like chemistry,physics,scientific math,scientific medicine,exported to the west through spain and continue developing up to this time with tremendous breakthroughs. so, mr eur you cannot avoid islam for the betterment of your life even if you hate islam.during economic meltdown some western nations considered adopting sharia compliant financial system as alternative to extreme capitalism borrowed from evil jews.uk was the first western nation to consider the option.i dont know how far they have gone. we are saying the west should consider moral aspect of sharia like modesty of dressing instead of animal way of life in the name of freedom.moral aspect will help the west to restore their human diginity from present beast style of nudity.

    • Angemon says

      Dec 18, 2016 at 12:50 pm

      Hi there, Ebionite. You wrote:

      “eur,why you people do not want study history for better understanding of issues.if you are from the united states, just consult john maqdisi a professor of law from north carolina university;”

      So eur is supposed to look at a professor of law to learn about history. Off to a nice start, aren’t you?

      “he will tell you that english common law applicable in most jurisdictions in the west originated from sharia.that is, almost all legal concepts were borrowed from sharia law as a result norman’s contact with muslim jurists in sicily and spain when muslims were rulers there.”

      I can assure you that Italian and Spanish law has little in common with sharia alw, and the little it has is along the lines of “thieves get punished both under Spanish, Italian and sharia law”. Thieves were being punished long before sharia was invented, so you might want to explain what do you mean by “almost all legal concepts”.

      “the local customs of various communities in the united kingdom were molded and married to sharia legal concepts that gave rise to common law exported to the united states and other parts of the west and it continued developing uptil now.”

      Hogwash. While you could murk the waters by mentioning Spain and Italy, who at one point in time had a portion of their current territory under islamic rule, you can’t even do that when it comes to Great Britain.

      Go on then – who are these alleged muslim jurists in the history of Great Britain that corrupted sharia law and morphed it into British law?

      “muslims did the same thing to human sciences like greek philosophy,egyptian and chine mathematic and medicine, married them together and systematised them,which gave rise to subject areas like chemistry,physics,scientific math,scientific medicine,exported to the west through spain and continue developing up to this time with tremendous breakthroughs.”

      LOL!!! Are you testing your stand-up routine? Because that s*** is as hilarious as it is false.

      “so, mr eur you cannot avoid islam for the betterment of your life even if you hate islam.during economic meltdown some western nations considered adopting sharia compliant financial system as alternative to extreme capitalism borrowed from evil jews.”

      Citations needed, you bigoted anti-semite.

      “uk was the first western nation to consider the option.i dont know how far they have gone. we are saying the west should consider moral aspect of sharia like modesty of dressing instead of animal way of life in the name of freedom.moral aspect will help the west to restore their human diginity from present beast style of nudity.”

      Women in the West are free to dress and act as they want, and as long as they abide by the law they have a understandable expectation of safety and security. It’s mostly muslim males who go around raping Western women on the grounds of their aspect/demeanour. What is your angle on that? Letting women dress as they want is taking away their dignity while raping them isn’t?

    • August West says

      Dec 18, 2016 at 1:12 pm

      Please name 1 historical Muslim contributor to math, physics or chemistry.

      Open up your freshman physics, calculus or chemistry books and post the names of the muslims that you find in there.

      If you do find such a name please explain to me in exact detail what principle of math ohysics or chemistry you claim they discovered.

    • JawsV says

      Dec 18, 2016 at 2:48 pm

      Eff off Muslim. Go and invent something – like a toaster, if you can.

      • Carolyne says

        Dec 19, 2016 at 10:59 am

        A better thing for the Muzzie to invent would be an alarm clock. It’s simple. Get an old Black and Decker clock, remove it from the casing and put it in a pencil box resembling an attache’ case. Be sure to leave wires hanging out of the case and take it to a crowded place such as a school classroom. Then, when you are arrested, the Department of Justice will protect you, you can sue all concerned, and our Muslim Prez will invite you to the White House. Do it quickly, though. He will be leaving soon.

    • Eur says

      Dec 18, 2016 at 2:49 pm

      Spain? Jajaja. You have no fucking idea what alandalus was. They were territories of the Iberian peninsula that some more and others during a less time were submitted by the Muslims. The south of the peninsula (Granada) was during 8 centuries under Muslim dominion, the north not. Thanks to the reconquest Basque cultures and Celtic traditions of the north are maintained. Do you know what Roman law is? Is the basis of the western judicial system. Sharia is a fucking fascist shit.

    • Champ says

      Dec 18, 2016 at 3:08 pm

      File this under fantastic fictions and call it a day …”ibrahim itace muhammed” is a pathological liar just like his pathetic ‘prophet’ was.

      • Carolyne says

        Dec 19, 2016 at 11:00 am

        It’s impossible to insult this guy. He is too dumb to understand.

    • gravenimage says

      Dec 18, 2016 at 11:19 pm

      Meretricious Mohammedan ibrahim itace muhammed wrote:

      eur,why (sic) you people do not want (sic) study history for better understanding of issues.if (sic) you are from the united (sic) states (sic), just consult john (sic) maqdisi (sic) a professor of law from north (sic) carolina (sic) university;he (sic) will tell you that english (sic) common law applicable in most jurisdictions in the west (sic) originated from sharia.that (sic) is, almost all legal concepts were borrowed from sharia (sic) law as a result norman’s (sic) contact with muslim (sic) jurists in sicily (sic) and spain (sic) when muslims (sic) were rulers there.
      ………………………………………..

      That would be John Makdisi–need I ask why this Mohammedan is so illiterate?

      Gates of Vienna skewers this ludicrous claptrap here:

      http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2008/06/is-sharia-basis-for-english-common-law.html

      More:

      the (sic) local customs of various communities in the united (sic) kingdom (sic) were molded and married to sharia (sic) legal concepts that gave rise to common law exported to the united (sic) states (sic) and other parts of the west and it continued developing uptil (sic) now.
      ………………………………………..

      What absolute rot. Civilized Western law has nothing in common with the savagery of Shari’ah law. Britons are not severing the limbs of petty thieves, nor are Americans stoning rape victims to death.

      More:

      muslims (sic) did the same thing to human sciences like greek (sic) philosophy,egyptian (sic) and chine (sic) mathematic (sic) and medicine, married them together and systematised them,which (sic) gave rise to subject areas like chemistry,physics,scientific (sic) math,scientific (sic) medicine,exported (sic) to the west through spain (sic) and continue developing up to this time with tremendous breakthroughs.
      ………………………………………..

      This is, of course, ridiculous. Islam’s greatest scholar, Al-Gazali, is known as the “Killer of Philosophy” for his asserting that Islam rejects philosophy and reason.

      As for those tremendous breakthroughs, has the witless muhammed failed to notice that virtually none of them cam from the intellectually arid Muslim world?

      More:

      so (sic), mr (sic) eur (sic) you cannot avoid islam (sic) for the betterment of your life even if you hate islam.during (sic) economic meltdown some western (sic) nations considered adopting sharia (sic) compliant financial system as alternative to extreme capitalism borrowed from evil jews.uk (sic) was the first western nation to consider the option.i (sic) dont (sic) know how far they have gone.
      ………………………………………..

      The idea that any Western nation was considering jettisoning Capitalism–the greatest wealth engine in history–in favor of Shari’ah compliant finance is simply ludicrous.

      The Muslim world–even accounting for its unearned oil wealth–is an economic basket case. The entire Muslim world has a GDP of the entire Muslim world is just a little over $18 billion–the GDP of the US alone is almost $17 *trillion*. The EU is almost as high–and that does not include the other Western nations.

      And what adds to the betterment of life like having Muslims rob and rape you?

      More:

      we (sic) are saying the west (sic) should consider moral aspect of sharia (sic) like modesty of dressing instead of animal way of life in the name of freedom.moral (sic) aspect will help the west to restore their human diginity (sic) from present beast style of nudity.
      ………………………………………..

      Ah, yes–the “moral” aspects of Shari’ah, such as child “marriage”, crucifying kids who run afoul of Ramadan, prosecuting “witches”, and beheading journalists and aid workers. Bloody thugs.

      No wonder they have no understanding of freedom.

    • gravenimage says

      Dec 18, 2016 at 11:22 pm

      Some excellent replies to the Muslim barbarian here.

    • anon nona says

      Dec 19, 2016 at 1:15 am

      The Middle East was a thriving, robust civilization, ahead of many other civilizations, with freedoms and inventions before Mohammed came along and ruined Middle Eastern civilization with his barbaric beliefs and practices. After Mohammed forced his religion and false prophecies onto the Middle Eastern peoples, the Middle East started to decay and crumble and bloodshed became the norm. The Middle East became a rotting cesspool thanks to mohammed.

  17. Kelly says

    Dec 18, 2016 at 12:23 pm

    I had my own “solidarity” experience, quite by accident, some years ago.

    I had been having some pain in my ears and we were having quite cold and windy weather. I determined on my own that the wind was hurting my ears so I started wearing my scarves over my head in order to cover my ears. I was not intending to look like I was wearing a hijab but it was taken that way by (at least some) others.

    I live in a part of the country where it is very common for strangers to greet one another
    — and it used to be even more common. I found, however, with the scarf covering my head, that people wouldn’t even make eye contact with me, even when I greeted them. It was almost like being invisible. By my experience, hijab is dehumanizing. Since that experience, I try very hard to always make eye contact with women in hijab. I believe it is not good for anyone to be dehumanized. It always strikes me as strange when Muslims claim that people stare at women in hijab as that wasn’t my experience.

    There was one exception. I was in the bathroom at the airport and an elderly lady in hijab spoke one word to me: “Muslima?”
    To this day I regret that I didn’t answer by saying “Jesus.” When she heard my “no,” she was gone so fast it was as if she disappeared.

    • Angemon says

      Dec 18, 2016 at 12:56 pm

      Kelly posted:

      “ It always strikes me as strange when Muslims claim that people stare at women in hijab as that wasn’t my experience.”

      A couple or so of years ago, a Canadian college student did an experiment where she wore an hijab for a couple or so of weeks to experience “islamophobia” in first hand. To her surprise, people actually were nicer to her while she wore the hijab than when she didn’t. Her conclusion? Canadians were so racist, bigoted and “islamophobic” that they needed to overcompensate to hide it.

      There’s no way to win with people like that – they simply know better than the rest of us and see how right they are by being able to look above and beyond the pile of facts and evidence that says they’re wrong.

  18. Mark says

    Dec 18, 2016 at 12:44 pm

    ““Hijab-wearing students activists SHOCK Christian university with Islamic protest,” ”

    Um, no, it’s a Morman university. Not Christian. They use the same terms, but those terms have radically different meanings.

  19. medaber_emet says

    Dec 18, 2016 at 1:35 pm

    unfortunatly there is no limit to stupidity.
    and what makes it worse is that the well educated are the most dumb and ignorent

  20. Norbert says

    Dec 18, 2016 at 1:38 pm

    “They insist the group’s effort sends a message that Muslims are not alone.”

    It is commonly understood that for communication to occur, three things must be present:

    (1) a sender (2) a receiver (3) a symbol set, the understanding and meaning of which is mutually agreed by the 2 parties.

    Hint: You may be sending a message, but trust me, most Muslims are not hearing the message you think you’re sending. If you have trouble understanding this, consider first non-verbal communication: If a Muslim is lecturing you on something related to Islam, a single finger pointing upward likely signifies “Allah is one, singular, and the only God”. An American doing the same could be saying “Listen closely; this is important”, or “F**k you”.

    • Norbert says

      Dec 18, 2016 at 1:40 pm

      By the way, isn’t wearing the hijab considered a “cultural appropriation”, and something to be avoided by people who push inclusiveness?

  21. Walter Sieruk says

    Dec 18, 2016 at 1:39 pm

    It figures that some of the followers of Mormonism at B.Y.U. would feel some kind of solidarity with followers of Islam. For is even been said that the founder and prophet of Mormonism , Joseph Smith ,who been referred to as “The Second Muhammad.” For example ,the founders of both religions was stated by a man who claimed that was a “True Prophet of God” Likewise both Islam and Mormonism started out with only a few member then, in time , increased in vast numbers of follower that religion had . Furthermore both religions deny the Biblical Doctrine of the Trinity. In addition, both Muhammad and Joseph Smith engaged in the practice of polygamy. The are also other things similar between those two religions but these few examples should be enough to prove the point. So its rather natural the some kind of solidarity might exist between them.
    Nevertheless,getting back the just mentioned of polygamy. It’s thus flitting to explain this subject as followers. Polygamy is not sanctioned by God. For example God gave Adam one wife. Furthermore, in the New Testament Jesus taught “For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife…” Jesus said “wife.” Not “wives” Mathew 19:5. [K.J.V.] Likewise, in First Timothy 3:2. In instructs “A bishop the must be blameless, the husband on one wife.” Here again it’s “one wife” Nevertheless, there are some people who will act as apologists for polygamy by say the king David of Israel and then later his son ,who became King Solomon of Israel did practice polygamy. Such people aren’t taking into account both the time and place. For the only reason that God did tolerate this tradition was not because it was right or that He approved of it. It was because this practice of having many wives was such an entrenched custom in the ancient Middle East that God allowed it for the above mentioned Kings of Israel. This does not mean that this custom, of polygamy, was to keep on going in other times and places.

  22. Walter Sieruk says

    Dec 18, 2016 at 1:55 pm

    This about some of the B.Y.U students showing a type of solidarity with some Muslims. One thing of interest about both religions , Islam and Mormonism. In the last century reading literature printed by the Mormon “church” and reading ,for balance reading Christian books,from a Christian bookstore, exposing the errors of Mormonism Also after talking with different Mormons. Likewise, in the last century and some time spent in the last century reading Islamic literature and than for balance reading Christian books for a Christian bookstore, exposing the error of Islam. I can truthfully keyboard that one of the many things both religion have in common is the the founders of both religions were false prophets. As the type Jesus warned about in Matthew 7:15. and of which Epistle of First John further warns of in 4:1.

  23. Cretius says

    Dec 18, 2016 at 1:57 pm

    More ignorant leftist useful idiots who think there is merit in enabling those that dispise all they stand for.

  24. Kepha says

    Dec 18, 2016 at 2:02 pm

    BYU a Christian university? There are some of us who would seriously question whether Mormonism is Christian. Perhaps an Abrahamic faith with a heavy emphasis on Jesus Christ, but not Christian in the historic sense.

    • Walter Sieruk says

      Dec 18, 2016 at 2:42 pm

      To Kepha, it’s very wise of you to give credit those “who would seriously question whether Mormonism is Christian.” For ,through time, many Christian scholars have studied the subject of Mormonism and the claims of the apologists for that religion in the light of the Bible as well as with the information from other sources as archaeology , anthropology ,literature, and history. They have come to the conclusion that Mormonism is not really Christian but a pseudo-christian cult . Many good well researched books from any well stocked Christian bookstore will have books s exposing the deception and errors of Mormonism .
      Its should also be added that two of the most insidious and deceptive hoax’s even played on humankind is The Book of Mormon and the Quran.

  25. somehistory says

    Dec 18, 2016 at 2:34 pm

    She said something about it being “touching.” It is quite evident, they have become a little *touched* in the head to believe that moslims are feeling *afraid about things* and fearful about things…

    How about normal, non worshippers of the islamic beast from satan who feel afraid of being …raped, beaten, gang-raped, cut, murdered by: bomb, knife, car, gun, sword, or a combination of these?

    The scarf…a piece of clothing worn by field working women, by maids, by women in curlers, women in the wind and rain…worn by moslims is a symbol of the death cult growing in numbers and imposing their unlawful, evil code of satanic worship on the rest of the world. For a group of silly girls who think they are acting in a “touching’ way and will receive many accolades for doing so to don the scarf and wear it as a molsim wears it…shows they have been subdued. They may soon be paying the extortion. Won’t that be fun? Next will come being sold as a *wife* to the owner of one of the molsim women who feel *afraid of some things.*

    Revelation 13

  26. Dov Berrol says

    Dec 18, 2016 at 2:49 pm

    Meanwhile “domestic disputes” continue to take the lives of innocent Muslim girls. In Ottawa, Canada, a 29 year old man has been charged with stabbing to death his two sisters. Family name is A-Noor. As usual, police a dumbfounded as to the motive. Click here: http://www.cp24.com/mobile/news/ottawa-man-29-charged-with-murder-in-deaths-of-his-two-sisters-1.3208498

  27. davej says

    Dec 18, 2016 at 2:58 pm

    One cult defends another cult.

    These smiling young women wearing the Muslim costume to show “solidarity with those Muslims who might be feeling uncomfortable” will not be smiling when they become at risk for murder for not wearing them.

    They are pursing “Middle Eastern Studies”, apparently they haven’t got too far as they seem unaware of the repression and murder of Christians or of the fact that many of the allegedly “islamophobic” incidents here turn out to be false or committed by other Muslims.

  28. Crusades Were Right! says

    Dec 18, 2016 at 2:58 pm

    They should hang onto those hijabs after they’ve finished with their “kaffir” virtue-signalling…

    …one day they might be needed for Islamic “virtue-signalling”!

  29. Crusades Were Right! says

    Dec 18, 2016 at 3:01 pm

    The hijab, aka German/Swedish anti-rape kit.

  30. kangi_yotaka says

    Dec 18, 2016 at 3:06 pm

    While there’s certainly no equivalence between Islam and Mormonism – Mormons are pretty darn nice people – they are shockingly similar in some ways. In no particular order, and just a few of the salient points …

    Both were started by a man who was essentially “illiterate” – I don’t think anyone claimed Joe Smith couldn’t read, but the “simple, honest boy” thing is definitely a trope – who was visited by an angel. Both heard about how the “truth” had been corrupted over time, and how they would be the one to restore it.
    “The Bible is good, but our guy is better – he got a special book from an angel, and we’re going to convert the whole world.”
    Joe got golden plates; Mo got his revelations. Mo got a revelation about how people should come for a meal and then get out, lest they “annoy” the prophet. Joe got a revelation about how coffee and tobacco are bad once his wife complained about having to serve drinks and mop up spit after meetings.
    Both claimed magic was bad, but Mo blew on things and spat – recognized as everyone as “magic” attempts at curing pains – and Joe was well-known for finding things using magic – staring into a hat, for example.
    Both fled to another area when they were not believed, and claimed persecution far and away worse than reality. Both were killed by the “unbeliever.”
    Both received rights for unlimited polygamy.
    Both banned alcohol and smoking (okay, smoking wasn’t a thing in Mo’s day – but see ISIS on smoking.)
    Both groups splintered over the right of succession – the minority following the founder’s son.

  31. davej says

    Dec 18, 2016 at 3:10 pm

    An only slightly exaggerated explanation of why it is that women in general have so much sympathy for Islam. (Think Merkel, Mays, Pelosi and Clinton).

    • Joanne says

      Dec 18, 2016 at 7:57 pm

      I’m a woman and agree wholeheartedly. Look at how Norwegian women lay on their backs for German soldiers. Serial killers are inundated with fan mail and marriage proposals. Thank God Hillary wasn’t elected. On the other hand, there are strong smart women like Pamela Geller, Ingrid Carlqvist, Marine Le Pen, etc. who are exceptions to the general rule but are vilified for it.

    • gravenimage says

      Dec 18, 2016 at 11:47 pm

      Oh, good grief–here’s this nasty piece of misogyny again.

      One of the most boneheaded claims in this video is that women are destroying civilization because they are all leftists–but that they are all leftists because they are following the general meme of society and are unable to think for themselves.

      This is simple logic–if women are simply followers, then they must be following men–which means that it is men who are primarily leftists, so it is not just women who are destroying society. Really, “Black Pigeon” here can’t have it both ways.

      There are plenty of male dhimmis–this is covered here at Jihad Watch all the time. Unless this poster believes that Tony Blair and Noam Chomsky and Rowan Williams and Pope Francis are all women in drag?

      He believes that women should not receive an education, and should not be allowed to vote–let’s see–what system does he share that in common with? Why doesn’t davej just go ahead and convert to Islam?

      Meanwhile, there are plenty of actual Anti-Jihadists here–and many of them are women. Dumbledore’s Army, Champ, Kathy Brown, Esq., Mirren10, j_not_a, and many more, including myself.

  32. unbeliever1 says

    Dec 18, 2016 at 4:07 pm

    Next, they’ll be husband hunting in Muslim countries.

    • Cynthia in California says

      Dec 18, 2016 at 7:41 pm

      No, several of them are probably already promised to “Elder Michael” or “Elder Greg”: you know, young men who’ve completed their 2-year missions.

  33. steve brown says

    Dec 18, 2016 at 5:15 pm

    This is happening because the woman around the world want men that will impregnate them over and over again. So while the non muslim men of the world are playing computer games and tweeting and sending Facebook messages to the worlds lonely woman the muslim men are raping the woman and the sex and male attention starved woman actually accept the rapes because the non muslim men of the world are little baby wimps… This sounds insane, but it is the truth..https://www.google.com/search?q=Grown+Wimpy+American+men+sitting+home+playing+computer+games&biw=1440&bih=725&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwje_dWb4v7QAhWM34MKHWuuCBIQ_AUIBigB#imgrc=TleNbOitYAJKlM%3A

    • Cynthia in California says

      Dec 18, 2016 at 7:42 pm

      The only clean thing I can think of saying here is:

      You must be out of your ever-loving mind. Bless your heart, sweetie.

    • gravenimage says

      Dec 18, 2016 at 11:53 pm

      steve brown wrote:

      …the muslim men are raping the woman and the sex and male attention starved woman actually accept the rapes because the non muslim men of the world are little baby wimps… This sounds insane…
      …………………………….

      It sounds insane because it *is* insane. I’m a rape survivor, and the idea that I accepted it is absolute crap.

      Why do some of these idiots believe that raping women is somehow “virile”? Real mean don’t feel the need to abuse women, nor are healthy women attracted to these thugs.

  34. Mark A says

    Dec 18, 2016 at 5:30 pm

    These BYU studies students should read Sura 9 of the Koran for a quick introduction to how Muslims feel about solidarity with Mormons, assuming Muslims recognize Mormons to be among the “People of the Book” to whom the Koran offers three basic choices: convert to Islam, pay the jizya tax with “willing submission [to Muslims] and accept subservient status to Muslims, or be killed by Muslims.

    If Mormons are not recognized as “People of the Book” the choice offered them under Sura 9 is a bit more basic: convert to Islam or be killed.

    One would think that reading the Koran would be part of their “Middle East studies” program.

    Reading the Koran might also provide them some insight into the status of women in Muslim societies. Hint: Mohammed can hardly be described as a feminist.

  35. Eric Jones says

    Dec 18, 2016 at 5:52 pm

    Muslim women who wear hjhabs also have had their clitoris removed. Will these Mormon women at BYU do the same?

    Eric

    • Phil Copson says

      Dec 19, 2016 at 3:46 am

      To how many children of mixed Muslim/Christian marriages has this happened already ?

      To how many Christian children in Nigeria / ME has this happened ?

      As to your question re Mormon women at BYU – I would say, just give it time before the left-wing press start publishing articles in favour of it and see which white-trash celebrity becomes the first to volunteer themselves or their children for it.

  36. Christopher Cilley says

    Dec 18, 2016 at 5:54 pm

    That is a mistake!! They are showing solidarity with the ones who INSIST that the hijabs MUST be worn, or suffer extreme punishment or death!!

  37. Dan says

    Dec 18, 2016 at 6:01 pm

    “A GROUP of Christian university students have covered themselves with the Islamic hijab with a shock protest in support for Muslims.” Mormons are not Christians. Do your research.

  38. Joanne says

    Dec 18, 2016 at 7:33 pm

    Mormons have more in common with Islam than mainstream Christian religions. Prohibitions against alcohol, acceptance of polygamy in sub-sects (with child brides), rampant inbreeding, massive families, monstrous totalitarian-looking temples that resemble mosques more than churches, fake prophet and holy book, etc. etc. No wonder they love and defend Islam. Useful idiots.

  39. Peggy says

    Dec 18, 2016 at 7:54 pm

    “They are feeling scared about things or just misunderstood, and so any show of solidarity I think can be touching.”
    ==============================
    They are scared?!!!
    What are they scared of?
    We, the non Muslims are scared and with good reason because we are the targets of their hatred not the other way around.
    They are killing us, we are not killing them.

    If only they had a reason to be scared maybe we wouldn’t have so many of us being killed. It’s time we actually put fear into them and then when they say they are scared they will be telling the truth.

    Where is the solidarity with so many non Muslims who were killed by these savages?

    • Carolyne says

      Dec 19, 2016 at 11:22 am

      According to that idiot spokesperson, they are scared of “Things.” What those “Things” are is unspecified.

      • Jack Diamond says

        Dec 19, 2016 at 11:53 am

        Zionist squirrels? Zionist sharks? Coca Cola logos? “Sex gum”? Porky Pig? Freemasons? Djinn? Being treated by the infidels the way Muslims treat infidels? Infidels learning the Truth about Muhammad and Islam?

        • Carolyne says

          Dec 19, 2016 at 4:13 pm

          If I had to choose just one, I’d say Zionist Squirrels. They have become a big problem, especially because they tend to concentrate where women are forced to wear rags on their heads. It’s a good place to hide nuts.

  40. gravenimage says

    Dec 18, 2016 at 8:22 pm

    Students at Brigham Young University don hijabs in solidarity with Muslims
    …………………………..

    “Solidarity”–over what, exactly? Over Muslims raping and murdering Infidels?

    As for the Hijab, besides the cases Robert Spencer mentioned, above, here is another one from just this week:

    “Saudi religious police arrest woman for going out in public unveiled”

    https://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/12/saudi-religious-police-arrest-woman-for-going-out-in-public-unveiled

    Who is standing in solidarity with this poor young woman? Not these idiots.

    More:

    She dismissed any controversy around the protest, which has raised eyebrows around campus, as people “getting excited about seeing diversity”….
    …………………………..

    Here are some recent incidents of Muslim “diversity” on university campuses:

    “Islamic State claims responsibility for Ohio State University jihad attack”

    https://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/11/islamic-state-claims-responsibility-for-ohio-state-university-jihad-attack

    “FBI: UC-Merced stabber was inspired by the Islamic State”

    https://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/03/fbi-uc-merced-stabber-was-inspired-by-the-islamic-state

  41. unbeliever1 says

    Dec 18, 2016 at 8:36 pm

    They should have stood in solidarity with the lady in Saudi Arabia, who has now been arrested for going out in public sans hijab and abaya.

  42. Joanne says

    Dec 18, 2016 at 8:46 pm

    Where are the niqabs and burkas in this solidarity exercise? And why are 2 gals displaying bangs (#1 and 6) but the rest have all the hair covered? Also, why do some have double-hijabs (#2 and 5)? #1 and 6 must be tramps for showing hair. What a sickening display. I see quite a few pious muslims in niqabs lose their piety at the food court in the mall as they remove their mouth coverings to wolf down Subway sandwiches and Machu Wok combos. Still they refuse to remove their mouthpieces to take an oath of citizenship in Canada. It’s a supremacist uniform folks. The women are just as bad as the men. It isn’t always coerced. Obviously they’re giving us the finger. These BYU women are total morons.

    • davej says

      Dec 18, 2016 at 10:04 pm

      “It’s a Supremacist uniform”. Yes, the purpose is to mark them as special in our society and protect them from the Muslim male rapist who they are admitting is an out of control savage. They are fine with the kuffar girls and children being raped, just not them. They are content with being the property of their Muslim husbands as second class citizens who must submit on demand or be divorced on a whim.

      And the BYU girls are fine with all of that, the deluded idiots.

  43. Wellington says

    Dec 18, 2016 at 10:07 pm

    The depth of stupidity that people can reach, like these silly young women at BYU, is seemingly unfathomable at times. BTW, as I have noted before here at JW, I believe it is official within the Mormon belief system to look upon Mohammed as a true prophet. This would contrast with many Christian sects which, having gone bonkers as of late, still do so “only” (where Mohammed is concerned) in an unofficial way.

    Oh well, when you start with Joseph Smith and then follow with Brigham Young, anything is possible if you believe what Joseph Smith and Brigham Young believed. Ah, but belief is the key word here and, being the eternal skeptic which I am, I reject belief and demand (yeah, I get it, who am I to demand anything?) that extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. While an admirer of the Judeo-Christian ethic, and noting as well that Mormon suicide bombers are kinda’ scarce, I do catch myself at times wishing that mankind could act ethically without religion, but this is merely a dream, a wish, and nothing more. Nothing more.

    • gravenimage says

      Dec 19, 2016 at 12:07 am

      Actually, Wellington, lots of people act ethically without religion, including yourself.

      And of course it is not every faith that inspired ethical behavior–Islam is Exhibit A. Unfortunately, too many–not including yourself, of course–assume that any random religion teaches moral behavior. Would that that was the case…

    • anon nona says

      Dec 19, 2016 at 1:02 am

      It is not official doctrine or official mandate to look upon Mohammed as a true prophet. There are Mormon BYU professors who teach Islamic studies who push that Mohammed was a true prophet, like Daniel Peterson, an arrogant, egotistical, always right ( according to him) jerk.

  44. davej says

    Dec 19, 2016 at 12:36 am

    Islam is clearly a mental illness, transmitted both genetically and by brainwashing.

    So is Mormonism, but we’ll give them a conditional pass until they start murdering people and trying to abolish the Constitution.

  45. anon nona says

    Dec 19, 2016 at 12:58 am

    Imbecile Mormons.

    Unfortunately many mainstream Christian religions are embracing solidarity with Islam and bringing in the invaders. The Catholics lead in bringing in Islamists to America.

    Mormons do not like me for fighting against their stupidity regarding Islam. And I am a Mormon. I am embarrassed by the Salt Lake City leaders with their support of Islam and bringing in the moslem invaders. I will not defend their stupidity nor support it.

    • Expat88 says

      Dec 19, 2016 at 5:14 am

      I think it is misguided because the Mormon leaders think that Islam and Mormonism have many things in common. (Which of course is totally false but it is what they think.) Polygamy, no alcohol, chastity before marriage, plus the perceived persecution of Muslims make Mormons think that they should have solidarity with a group like that. Mormons were persecuted especially in their early days but they are wrong to believe that Muslims are being unfairly persecuted. The fact that so many Muslims continue to move to the west and to America proves that isn’t true. They would not keep immigrating if things were so bad.

  46. Billy Lynch says

    Dec 19, 2016 at 1:07 am

    The tipoff is that ignorant women are involved in “Middle Eastern Studies” which is a code word for Israel-hating, Jew-bashing Palestinian bastards.

    http://www.campus-watch.org/about.php

    Excellent website that monitors these filthy Islamist nuthuggers on campuses across the US.

    • Expat88 says

      Dec 19, 2016 at 5:06 am

      But Mormons are generally very pro-israel.

    • Expat88 says

      Dec 19, 2016 at 5:06 am

      But Mormons are generally very pro-israel.

  47. no_one says

    Dec 19, 2016 at 1:21 am

    Einstein said that two things are endless, Universe and the human stupidity. He was not quite sure about the Universe.

  48. scherado says

    Dec 19, 2016 at 2:55 am

    If I were to make light of this, then I might write here that it gives new meaning to “having a bad hair-day”, but I won’t be doing that.

  49. Chris Malan says

    Dec 19, 2016 at 4:10 am

    How many of these brainless, young women (a tautology) are involved? Just the six on the photo?

  50. Ade says

    Dec 19, 2016 at 5:10 am

    If the media were doing the job and our governments did not have their heads so far up their arses
    .. People would be better informed about islam and this sort of thing would not be happening

  51. Ade says

    Dec 19, 2016 at 5:50 am

    … but so far no reports of muslims anywhere donning crosses in support of christians right ?

  52. American! says

    Dec 19, 2016 at 6:16 am

    Foolish girls! Like many these days donning a hijab thinking it shows solidarity and the cool thing to do. They are playing right into the hands of the Muslims whose sole game is strangle us into submitting to their ideological and satanic inspired religion .

  53. Politicalqrm says

    Dec 19, 2016 at 7:14 am

    Obviously these women are not getting the education their parents paid for. If they were, they wouldn’t be doing something as stupid and ignorant as this..

  54. Troybeam says

    Dec 19, 2016 at 11:11 am

    Another jump on the band wagon before thinking: such is a college education these days.

  55. C says

    Dec 19, 2016 at 12:27 pm

    First off, Mormons are NOT Christians!!!! They believe in a different God than true Bible Believing Christians. Mormons also have a few things in common with the Muslims, one being that both of these false cults were founded by men who claimed to be prophets! The author of this article needs to do his research, and stop calling them Christians! I am a ex-Mormon, now Bible believing Christian so I know what I am talking about. The doctrinal differences between the two are HUGE!!!

  56. Ken says

    Dec 19, 2016 at 2:06 pm

    “Christian university”???!!!!

    Mormons are not Christian. The Mormon church teaches that God is an exalted man from another planet. The Jesus and Satan are our older brothers from the spirit world born to “their Fathers” wife, the queen of heaven; and that they can become gods of their own planet if they belong to their church and keep all their commandments.

    However, it should come as no surprise that they agree with Muslims since they have so much in common. Both prophets were visited by angels that delivered “restored truth”. Both teach that the Bible has been corrupted and changed. Both teach that the men can have eternal sex with harems of women if they reach the pinnacle of their religions. Both teach that their “holy books” were written on plates. There are more but that ought to be enough.

    • Carolyne says

      Dec 19, 2016 at 4:20 pm

      “An exalted man from another planet.” That sounds like Scientology which believes that alien beings were put into volcanoes for storage since their planet was too crowded but the volcanoes exploded and the aliens were loosed upon humans on this planet. They interbred and so every human is part alien with little invisible aliens clinging to their bodies. These little passengers must be gotten rid of, at a considerable amount of money.

    • Gene says

      Dec 19, 2016 at 5:38 pm

      Thank you for that bit of ignorant and irrelevant drivel. Your over simplistic discussion is about as accurate as when a Muslim accuses a Christian of being a polytheist because they believe in the trinity. While your delusions deserve a response, there is not enough time or space to do so. But the fact is you do not get to define what being a Christian is and then exclude everyone who doesn’t believe exactly the way you do. (I’m not sure if you are a Christian, but first century Christians didn’t believe like you either.) For now I will just say that ‘Mormons’ believe in God the Father, in his son Jesus Christ, and the Holy Ghost, and that salvation comes only through Jesus Christ. In other words, they are Christian. And despite what you say Mormons believe in the Bible; they just happen to realize that translations are not perfect and that not everything that the Apostles wrote is in the New Testament. By the way you can read everything Jesus said in the New Testament in about 20 minutes. I suspect he said a lot more than that during his lifetime, this implies that there are things that are missing. Even the Bible mentions books that are not included (i.e. The Book of Jasher. Joshua 13:10; 2 Sam. 1:18). Most scholars realize the Bible is not perfect, which can be shown by hundreds of different translations.

      Mormons do have some traditions about Satan that are different from other churches. One of them is that he was expelled from Heaven because he wanted to be the messiah and to take away the liberty of mankind and force everyone to believe, worship, and do what he thought they should do to be saved. In other words, he wanted to do what Mohammad did with Islam. So, the commonality is that a Mormons who know anything about Islam would recognize it as the Church of Satan. Although, most would be more polite about how they define it.

      Also, Mormons do not teach that “the men can have eternal sex with harems of women.” (You are either a liar, incredibly ignorant, or both.) Further, Paul and the Apostles, and many others from the bible were visited by angles. And the Qur’an was not written on “plates.” So not much commonality, but you have something in common with Muslims, namely the Muslim concept of Taqqiya.

      Finally, getting back to the article, I graduated from BYU Law School. I ran across a few liberal idiots there but they were a small minority. Hopefully, the six idiots are the sum total out of the 30,000 plus students. Still it’s embarrassing that six people out of 30,000 would do something stupid like this.

      • will hennessy says

        Dec 19, 2016 at 7:27 pm

        Mormons are henotheists, believing in being a ‘god of the tribe’. With a ‘celestial marriage’, you too can be a god of your own tribe, and the women, well, they get to be perpetual baby machines. Mormonism is a cult, a gross Christian heresy in much the way (but without of course the violence) that islam is a gross Christian heresy.
        It is a common Mormon myth to say that the bible is not translated properly, but I challenge a single one of them with training in ancient Greek to point out a single such incidence. Meanwhile the book of mormon is a cut and paste of the KJV, including some of the errors of the edition that Joseph Smith plagiarized to create it.
        Lastly, Joseph Smith was a charlatan of the first degree – think about it: a guy that said he had magic plates, magic glasses, and that somehow despite zero training in any language, convicted of fraud not once, but twice in NY, but miraculously he is the prophet.
        Pray for your mormon friends. A lot of them are very decent people, but they are being led astray by a works-based, false righteousness.

      • Ken says

        Dec 19, 2016 at 7:38 pm

        “Over simplistic” but highly accurate. Certainly you have heard the famous Mormon saying “As man is, God once was; as God is, man may become.” given by LDS president Lorenzo Snow? It doesn’t take a BYU Law graduate to figure that one out. What are we like? we’re born on a planet to parents, we get our diapers changed, go to school, and learn to ride a bike. And clearly the Mormon church teaches that men can reach “exaltation” and become gods and fill their own planet.

        I’ll tell you what determines what a Christian. The Bible determines what a Christian is and you will never find in the Bible that anyone can become a god, have a multitude of wives,let alone one, earn their way to 3 to 10 levels of heaven; or that Jesus is the “first born spirit baby” to this god and one of his wives. I don’t know why Mormons want to be called “Christians” in the first place, it was Joseph Smith that said, “don’t follow any of the Christian churches they are all wrong.” But this is one more reason why I don’t like to be called a Christian anymore. Because nowadays that doesn’t mean anything. Roman Catholics are Christians, Mormons are Christians, Jahovah Witnesses are Christians, abortionists are Christians, homosexuals are Christians, everybody’s a Christian, but they all have a different god a different jesus and a different gospel. I prefer to be called a soldier serving under the Commander of Yahovah’s army. or a member of the Body of Christ.

        Now, it is you that is practicing taqiyya, deception to advance your “religion.” You know full well that all of your books say the Bible has been corrupted, that “many plain and precious things were removed from the Bible”, so much so that it led many to the Devil. Also, you can ask any missionary, “all the translations, thousands of years, evil and lazy scribes,” sounds like a ringing endorsement for the Bible alright. Therefore, the statement of the Mormon church that “we believe the Bible” is a false witness, and I’ll remind you that there are 7 things Yahovah hates and two of them are a lying tongue and a false witness.

        The oldest lie in the Book, the Serpent to Eve, “hath God said.” He got her to doubt God’s Word and told her she could be like God. Therefore, Mormonism and Islam are both churches of Satan, whore daughters of Babylon, the mother of whores.

        The similarities I stated are absolutely correct:

        Mormon men that achieve exaltation (godhood) have a new and everlasting covenant of a multitude of wives. They will produce dozens of billions of spirit babies to fill their planet which means a lot of sex.

        Muslims that are martyred receive 72 virgins and some small boys they can have sex with for eternity.

        The Book of Mormon was supposedly given to Joseph Smith on gold plates.

        The Quran is written on plates in heaven.

        Joseph Smith was visited by an angel that told him he was a prophet and was given new revelation that as we see now contradicts the Bible so Mormons have to say that it’s been changed.

        Muhammad was visited by an angel that told him he was a prophet and was given new revelation that as we see now contradicts the Bible so Muslims have to say that it’s been changed.

        There are dozens of more, let me know if you’d like them. Then repent, put your trust alone in Yahshua Messiah, Yahovah or our salvation. Because your best works are filthy rags and if God isn’t a man from another planet then you have a false god and there is no hope in false gods, false christs, and false gospels.

  57. Aislouisa Nailsworth says

    Dec 19, 2016 at 3:12 pm

    Islam-polygamy-Mormon-polygamy.
    I DID wonder why I was linking the seemingly sensible Mormons with the less than women-friendly Religion Of Peace.
    Think I`ve got it now.
    Wonder how the Uni would respond if a load of girls went in with white sheets and hoods on…isn`t THAT as offensive to black students, as is wearing hijabs after Florida, Fort Hood, Twin Towers, San Bernardino….

  58. Ali Bey says

    Dec 19, 2016 at 5:19 pm

    In addition of scarfs, clitoroctomy to show support.

  59. SAKOVKT says

    Dec 19, 2016 at 8:31 pm

    Maybe that’s why Mitt Romney lost : a RINO Whoosh.

  60. Mark Berlinger says

    Dec 20, 2016 at 2:56 am

    Who speaks for the brutalized Muslima who dare to remove her slave suit?

    • Mark Berlinger says

      Dec 20, 2016 at 4:15 am

      I would be impressed if these silly indiscriminate modern liberals wore these slavery bags every time they went outside for a year, and had to get the okay to do so from their fathers or husbands.

      Western Civilization is under attack and these weenies are role playing a game called “Let’s Submit To Savages.”

  61. Lee Hicks says

    Dec 24, 2016 at 11:05 am

    Since Mormonism is itself an unBiblical cult, teaching that there are many gods, that God was once a man who became god, that current men can become as God (the original lie of Satan), that women are only resurrected if their “god” husbands decree it, that future worlds are populated by their eternal lovemaking, and that dark skin was the curse of Cain, among other false and heretical teachings, it isn’t surpising to see a Mormon-based college allowing this sort of acceptance of the practices of a fellow false religion such as Islam. Considering the wealth of false teachings in the Mormon church, this corrupt practice is the least of their offenses.

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