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Trump team seeks names of officials working to counter “violent extremism”

Dec 24, 2016 1:05 pm By Robert Spencer

“Some career officials said they feared the incoming administration may be looking to undo the work that the Obama administration has done on countering violent extremism.”

Let’s hope so! Let’s hope that Trump’s team is requesting these names so that all those who are responsible for the denial and willful ignorance that has hamstrung our response to the jihad threat for years can be swept out.

On October 19, 2011, Farhana Khera of Muslim Advocates wrote a letter to John Brennan, who was then the Assistant to the President on National Security for Homeland Security and Counter Terrorism. The letter was signed not just by Khera, but by the leaders of virtually all the significant Islamic groups in the United States: 57 Muslim, Arab, and South Asian organizations, many with ties to Hamas and the Muslim Brotherhood, including the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), the Islamic Society of North America (ISNA), the Muslim American Society (MAS), the Islamic Circle of North America (ICNA), Islamic Relief USA; and the Muslim Public Affairs Council (MPAC).

The letter denounced what it characterized as U.S. government agencies’ “use of biased, false and highly offensive training materials about Muslims and Islam.” Khera complained that my books could be found in “the FBI’s library at the FBI training academy in Quantico, Virginia”; that a reading list accompanying a powerpoint presentation by the FBI’s Law Enforcement Communications Unit recommended my book The Truth About Muhammad; and that in July 2010 I “presented a two-hour seminar on ‘the belief system of Islamic jihadists’ to the Joint Terrorism Task Force (JTTF) in Tidewater, Virginia,” and “presented a similar lecture to the U.S. Attorney’s Anti-Terrorism Advisory Council, which is co-hosted by the FBI’s Norfolk Field Office.”

These were supposed to be terrible things because I was bigoted and hateful. But many of the examples Khera adduced of “bigoted and distorted materials” involved statements that were not actually bigoted and distorted at all, but simply accurate. What was distorted was Khera’s representation of them. For instance, Khera stated: “A 2006 FBI intelligence report stating that individuals who convert to Islam are on the path to becoming ‘Homegrown Islamic Extremists,’ if they exhibit any of the following behavior: ‘Wearing traditional Muslim attire’; ‘Growing facial hair’; ‘Frequent attendance at a mosque or a prayer group’; ‘Travel to a Muslim country’; ‘Increased activity in a pro-Muslim social group or political cause.’”

But the FBI intelligence report Khera purported to be describing didn’t actually say that converts to Islam were necessarily “on the path” to becoming “extremists” if they wore traditional Muslim attire, grew facial hair, and frequently attended a mosque; it simply included these behaviors among a list of fourteen indicators to “identify an individual going through the radicalization process.” Others included “travel without obvious source of funds’; “suspicious purchases of bomb making paraphernalia or weapons”; “large transfer of funds, from or to overseas”; and “formation of operational cells.” Khera selectively quoted and misrepresented the list to give the impression that the FBI was saying that devout observance of Islam led inevitably and in every case to “extremism.”

Despite the factual accuracy of the material about which they were complaining, the Muslim groups signing the letter demanded that the task force “purge all federal government training materials of biased materials”; “implement a mandatory re-training program for FBI agents, U.S. Army officers, and all federal, state and local law enforcement who have been subjected to biased training”; and more—to ensure that all that law enforcement officials would learn about Islam and jihad would be what the signatories wanted them to learn.

Brennan assured Khera that all her demands would be met: “Your letter requests that ‘the White House immediately create an interagency task force to address this problem,’ and we agree that this is necessary.” He then detailed other specific actions being undertaken, including “collecting all training materials that contain cultural or religious content, including information related to Islam or Muslims.” In reality this material wouldn’t just be “collected”; it would be purged of anything that Farhana Khera and others like her found offensive—that is, any honest discussion of how Islamic jihadists use Islamic teachings to justify violence.

Thus was born the euphemistic “Countering Violent Extremism” program, which carefully avoids any mention of Islam and jihad. It is time to drain this swamp.

“Exclusive: Trump team seeks names of officials working to counter violent extremism,” by Warren Strobel and Arshad Mohammed, Reuters, December 23, 2016:

U.S. President-elect Donald Trump’s transition team has asked two Cabinet departments for the names of government officials working on programs to counter violent extremism, according to a document seen by Reuters and U.S. officials.

The requests to the State Department and the Department of Homeland Security involve a set of programs that seek to prevent violence by extremists of any stripe, including recruitment by militant Islamist groups within the United States and abroad.

Reuters could not determine why the Trump team asked for these names. The Trump team did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

Trump has frequently criticized President Barack Obama for not doing enough to battle Islamic militants and for his refusal to use the term “radical Islam” to describe Islamic State and other militant groups.

Some career officials said they feared the incoming administration may be looking to undo the work that the Obama administration has done on countering violent extremism….

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  1. cs says

    Dec 24, 2016 at 1:19 pm

    Robert Spencer, Pamela Geller, Daniel Greenfield, who else??

    • David says

      Dec 24, 2016 at 1:35 pm

      How about the readers of this site?

      Using the euphemisms Violent Extremism, Asian, etc., to cover up the true purposes of these groups is like going to the dentist and using “sore tooth” to describe dental decay. It does not do the job.

      • Peter P. says

        Dec 25, 2016 at 10:52 pm

        IMO, “Radical Islamic terrorism” is redundant since the word, “Radical” is a non sequitur as it is used here. Have you ever heard of “Moderate Islamic terrorism?” The Koran is an instruction manual for Islamic terrorism where the people committing acts of terrorism are Muslims and their victims are non-Muslims. The Koran does not say, “Beware of Jews and Christians” because they will strike terror in your heart. No, it’s the other way around, as in “hey Jews and Christians. You had better beware before I open up a can of “Alluah Akbar” on your a**”

        • Keith Gilbert says

          Dec 26, 2016 at 11:43 am

          “Somewhere” I once read that: “Before that great and terrible day of destruction there must first come a great cleansing…!”

          We are in for it, evil islam is upon the land everywhere and must be cleansed from our midst lest we all perish.

    • ermom says

      Dec 24, 2016 at 1:37 pm

      Andrew McCarthy, Raymond Ibrahim, David Wood, Sam Shamoun, & Nabeel, Brigitte Gabriel, and more.

      • ermom says

        Dec 24, 2016 at 1:44 pm

        The very first day, I hope that Pres. Trump orders that the teaching materials, containing references to ‘Islam’ and ‘jihad’ are put back into our intelligence agencies and those who were fired, are rehired. Also, that NO political correctness will be tolerated. That a ‘Ft. Hood’ type situation, with obvious folk with jihadi interests are not just kicked out of the services, intelligence agencies or any police forces, etc., are tried in a court of law for sedition/treason or whatever the appropriate legal charge is. And yes, that the Muslim Brotherhood and it’s front groups such as CAIR, ISNA, ICNA, MSA, etc. are designated the terror groups that they are.
        THE TRUTH HAS NO AGENDA.

        • EYESOPEN says

          Dec 24, 2016 at 7:38 pm

          Well said, ermom.

        • PRCS says

          Dec 24, 2016 at 9:09 pm

          Bbbuubbbut, won’t that just utterly wreck Barry O’s legacy?

      • ermom says

        Dec 24, 2016 at 1:45 pm

        Oh, of course, Dr. Bill Warner. Who else am I missing? There are more….

        • Rob says

          Dec 24, 2016 at 2:02 pm

          Stephen Coughlin, author of the Red Pill Brief, fired because of his honest appraisal.

        • ermom says

          Dec 24, 2016 at 2:06 pm

          And author of ‘Catastrophic Failure: Blindfolding America in the Face of Jihad”, Stephen Coughlin. Sorry I blanked on him for a few minutes. There’s more….

        • ermom says

          Dec 24, 2016 at 2:08 pm

          Trevor Loudon, author o f ‘Enemies Within’, and of course, the Glazov Gang.

        • Christianblood says

          Dec 24, 2016 at 3:14 pm

          ermom posted

          (..Oh, of course, Dr. Bill Warner. Who else am I missing? There are more..)

          Include Frank Gaffney too!

        • BlueRaven says

          Dec 24, 2016 at 5:02 pm

          don’t forget Ann Barnhardt

        • PRCS says

          Dec 24, 2016 at 9:19 pm

          From the U.S.: IBN WARRAQ and Andrew Bostom.

          Others: Mark Steyn, Bat Ye’or and Bruce Bawer.

        • Simone Fields says

          Dec 25, 2016 at 8:53 am

          Another, Brigitte Gabriel

      • Christianblood says

        Dec 24, 2016 at 3:26 pm

        Stephen Coughlin, Brigitte Gabriel, Raymond Ibrahim are amazing people!
        Brigitte Gabriel is one of a kind!

        • eduardo odraude says

          Dec 24, 2016 at 8:35 pm

          Mark Durie’s The Third Choice puts him easily in the top rank.

      • EYESOPEN says

        Dec 24, 2016 at 7:37 pm

        Walid Phares, Nonie Darwish, Wafa Sultan…

      • Emmie99 says

        Dec 25, 2016 at 9:48 am

        Don’t forget the invaluable Clare Lopez!

    • steve brown says

      Dec 24, 2016 at 7:45 pm

      Paul Weston- Gert Wilders- Marie Le Pen..

      • ermom says

        Dec 25, 2016 at 9:28 am

        LOL, love it, Steve! Wilders and Le Pen are perfect!

        Just had a thought, readers here KNOW that there are more than one type of jihad: mouth (speech), writing, personal (inner struggle…only 2% of the Muslim trilogy), violence (98% of their trilogy (Qur’an, hadith and sira), and money. There are current imams suggesting that Muslims DON’T work, take every cent of WELFARE they can, and consider it ‘the jizya’, and a money jihad to hurt the nations which take them in. Hmmm, sorta sounds like the communists Cloward and Piven strategy, “Collapsing the system under the weight of the Poor’, doesn’t it.

        Anyway, ‘money jihad’ leads me to adding to the ‘teaching’ list, not from a theological viewpoint, but the ‘money’ aspect, Ann Corcoran of Refugee Resettlement Watch, who does, and has a huge archive, a wonderful job of exposing the real costs of resettlement of Muslim refugees. So she should also teach our intelligence agents. I urge readers to add her site to your daily list: https://refugeeresettlementwatch.wordpress.com/ The BIG LIE is that ‘charities’ are resettling refugees. NO, they are paid by the head, so of course they want more. Most of the money comes from we taxpayers. Then, when the grants run out, LOCAL taxpayers get hit with the full WELFARE COSTS, much less the risk of jihadis or Islamization aided and abetted by dhimmi local gov’t types.

        • ermom says

          Dec 25, 2016 at 9:30 am

          Oh, I’m NOT forgetting that Al Qaeda & IS also, consider setting fires and other damage, which COSTS TAXPAYERS MONEY, are also types of ‘money jihad’.

        • Simone Fields says

          Dec 25, 2016 at 9:45 am

          Thanks for the Anne Corcoran link

    • Cleanse ignorance says

      Dec 25, 2016 at 10:01 am

      Former FBI agent, the beloved and in your face Mr. Guandolo! The fearless lioness Ayaan Hirsi Ali, the call a spade-spade and indomitable, Ms. Noni Darwish. the tigress and in your face, beloved Ms. Briggit Gabriel. One Mrs. Reza, who has thought us the stages of Islamic domination. There are more but I can readily recall their names. Marjid Nawaz should not be included with this group, because he still indulges in TAQIYYA every now and then, so I do not trust him. Our beloveth new President Donald Trump is already draining the swamp even before he is sworn into office. I have been sleeping good again since Nov. 9th. And with the cabinet members he has appointed so far, I am over-sleeping these days, and my BP became normal without medications. #MAGA#MAGA# THE SWAMP IS DRAINING EVEN FASTER THAN I EXPECTED! God bless and protect our new President and his family. AMEN !

      • Cleanse ignorance says

        Dec 25, 2016 at 10:57 am

        Ah! Ah! Ah! I had almost missed our very own Robert Spencer! Actually, he should be the leader of the pack. President Trump needs to establish/create a new federal ministry/Department and name it, the Department of Jihadi and muslim watch; and Mr. Robert Spencer made the Secretary of Jihadi and Muslim watch/ass-whopping Department. Mr. Spencer Knows the quran and muslims better than muslims knows the Quran and themselves. President Trump’s merely appointing our very own Robert Spencer will cause a million Muslims choke on their nasty halal food within 24hrs. See? killing a million bad birds with one great stones without lifting a finger.

        Besides, we will save ourselves millions of dollars in public funds at the same time, because we will not need guns to kill them, nor having to deport them with tax payers money. Then, we will burry them in a mass grave, pour bacon/pig oil over them and cremate them with acid! Good radiance to killer Jihadi rubbish!

        • Islam the religion of killers says

          Dec 25, 2016 at 7:33 pm

          Robert for “Director of Muslim behaviour & eduction”

      • TR says

        Dec 26, 2016 at 10:42 am

        The dumbing down on training our security forces, including the NA -FBI must have been going strong in the 1990’s. Not only Islamic Terrorism but Domestic Leftist Terrorist too. Thank God for Trump for going after the root of the problem. Very wise President taking out the trash.

    • Stacy Brewer says

      Dec 25, 2016 at 11:22 am

      Sebastian Gorka and Philip Haney.

      • Bezelel says

        Dec 25, 2016 at 3:28 pm

        And David Horowitz.

  2. cs says

    Dec 24, 2016 at 1:20 pm

    “Some career officials said they feared the incoming administration may be looking to undo the work that the Obama administration has done on countering violent extremism…”

    What work??

  3. Paleologos says

    Dec 24, 2016 at 1:21 pm

    My best guess is that Trump will overhaul the whole Obama mind set regarding “violent extremism,” starting with the vernacular.

    Violent extremism, workplace violence, and all the other Obama obfuscations will get discarded.

    Islamic extremism and similar more accurate descriptions will become the norm.

    Vetting will be serious, and a temporary ban on more refugees from terrorist zones (read: Muslims) is mandatory!

    A new sheriff is in town! 🙂

    R/

    Paleologos

  4. Phil says

    Dec 24, 2016 at 1:24 pm

    Praise be to God! Drain that putridly dangerous swamp.

  5. JerryJ26 says

    Dec 24, 2016 at 1:38 pm

    President Trump gets the list…

    “You’re fired!”

  6. underbed cat says

    Dec 24, 2016 at 2:04 pm

    Information warfare will soon be revealed. ..Thank you for all your work…to inform those willing to inquire. I was most surprised by the results for Trump, and was elated…..and at last hopeful.

    These will not be too easy times that will come but at least we know and have a chance to lessen the effects and willl have protection.

    To all my hero’s stay well and Happy Holidays whether Christmas or Hanakkau.

  7. quota raven says

    Dec 24, 2016 at 2:05 pm

    “Some career officials said they feared the incoming administration may be looking to undo the work that the Obama administration has done on countering violent extremism….”

    I certainly hope that is exactly what is going to happen.

    Thank you, Robert Spencer, for providing a detailed history of exactly how the editing of law-enforcement training materials of any mention of Islam, jihad, et al.was effected, and by whom. This was such a shocking and completely outrageous act, and yet it got very little attention in the MSM, and John Brennan was rewarded for carrying out this atrocity by being made head of CIA! Yep, that’s eggzackly the way it went down.

  8. Jaladhi says

    Dec 24, 2016 at 2:06 pm

    I hope all these morons with “violent extremist” narrative be fired or retrained in true Islam and not the fake peaceful Islam. But again wasit really their fault they came came up with this false narrative to please the boss. Perhaps they will change and do what the new boss wants – truth and nothing but the truth about Islam and Muslims!

  9. Diane Harvey says

    Dec 24, 2016 at 2:10 pm

    “Some career officials said they feared the incoming administration may be looking to undo the work that the Obama administration has done on countering violent extremism….”

    Damn, I hope so.

    • Keith Gilbert says

      Dec 24, 2016 at 2:24 pm

      All the while some prisoners in US & state prisons purchase at their own expense copies of Robert Spencer’s books, read them, pass them around and make themselves aware of what is really going on in our country…these are so called criminal prisoners mind you…better citizens sometimes than free citizens because they see what is going on and care.

    • underbed cat says

      Dec 25, 2016 at 2:14 pm

      If countering violent extremism is the CVE, they are not referring to Islamic jihadist…I don’t think, but everything else, since they cannot use the words that now have been purged. This is what I think Stephen Coughlin explains, and Phil Haney had a list of words that were purged as well as Robert Spencer…

      He may want to know who created the purges….as we well know how the silencing is required by the religion of no so peaceful.

  10. Champ says

    Dec 24, 2016 at 2:18 pm

    Trump’s top #1 pick: Robert Spencer!

    • Christianblood says

      Dec 24, 2016 at 3:18 pm

      Champ posted

      (..Trump’s top #1 pick: Robert Spencer!..)

      Exactly!

    • Bezelel says

      Dec 25, 2016 at 3:32 pm

      Robert is the only one I know of who already has extensive experience at the job.

  11. Angemon says

    Dec 24, 2016 at 2:54 pm

    U.S. President-elect Donald Trump’s transition team has asked two Cabinet departments for the names of government officials working on programs to counter violent extremism, according to a document seen by Reuters and U.S. officials.

    Unless I’m reading this wrong, Trump’s team asked the Obama administration for the names of the people currently working on “countering violent extremism”. I bet the list is short and filled with non-American names…

    • somehistory says

      Dec 24, 2016 at 6:01 pm

      That is what I thought he meant. Guess there are two ways to look at it, but it would seem that he could easily get the names of those *really* working against islam and its warfare against everyone else.

    • gravenimage says

      Dec 24, 2016 at 8:05 pm

      Yes, that’s how I read it as well, Angemon.

      • quota raven says

        Dec 25, 2016 at 12:55 am

        To Graven and Angemon – Me, too, you two. I had an interesting situation tonight where, at a Christmas Eve party, a guy said to me out of the blue that Geert Wilders “is a racist”. It was all I could do to remain civil…just barely. I didn’t do very well, but I made an effort to advise this dude about jihad. It’s shocking how little people know about Islam and jihad.

        Cheers!

        quota raven

    • underbed cat says

      Feb 5, 2017 at 11:32 am

      If he uses Obama list, nothing will change. There are experts that have legal qualifications and expert knowledge who were shut down by Obama or Bush, the one person who always comes to mind who knows sharia law and U.S.law and is excellent is Stephen Coughlin…… who also knows the CVE is pretty useless.

  12. Martin says

    Dec 24, 2016 at 3:19 pm

    An obviously dubious program, worthless to improving national security, that needs to be scrapped because its an utter waste of money and Reuters can’t figure out why Trump may be inquiring into it.

    Gee, that’s a real tough one. Such a mystery!

  13. pennant8 says

    Dec 24, 2016 at 4:15 pm

    I hope when Trump starts the house cleaning that he is vocal about doing it, and explains to the American people why he is doing it. Most Americans have no clue that the Brennan purge took place, or just how deeply our whole national security infrastructure has been penetrated by Muslim Brotherhood termites.

  14. Wellington says

    Dec 24, 2016 at 4:51 pm

    CVE is a joke, and a dangerous one at that. It’s gotta’ go, much as do Brennan and Obama.

  15. Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY) says

    Dec 24, 2016 at 5:42 pm

    This is all part of what normally happens when a new boss is appointed to head a government department. Here’s another example:
    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2016/12/14/how-a-department-resists-a-businessman/

  16. Transmaster says

    Dec 24, 2016 at 7:06 pm

    Brennan and Obama, Yes get rid of the “BO”

  17. David, Thailand says

    Dec 24, 2016 at 10:47 pm

    While it is already too late for Europe, a Trump administration will give Spencer, Geller, Wilders and dozens of other devoted counter-jihadists a brief window of opportunity to educate the free world’s leaders, and people, about Islam. Let’s hope they are organised, and take up this challenge with the ferocity it deserves.

    For the record, my predictions from the start of this century stand: Israel will not celebrate her centenary, the EU will not see 25 years, and a child born on 01 Jan 2001 will within its natural lifetime witness a Europe in which every person is either a Muslim or a dhimmi. These histories are already written, and our next generation can fill in the details.

  18. f c king says

    Dec 25, 2016 at 3:04 am

    Wonder if trump will invite clock boy and family for a state dinner ?

  19. Stephen says

    Dec 25, 2016 at 6:31 am

    Among the names of people who were actively working to protect American citizens from the violence planned by terrorists is a true patriot named Philip Haney. Mr. Haney was doing such a good job that his upper level supervisors began to pursue him relentlessly, purged his work that linked jihadi terrorists with mosques and groups, and finally caused him to retire from the DHS.

    Mr. Haney should be rehired and put in charge of recreating the DHS database that connects the available pieces of intelligence to specific jihadis. The fundamental investigative work that Mr. Haney did and that was purged from the DHS system is described in the book authored by Messrs. Haney and Moor in the book “See Something, Say Nothing,” a best seller.

  20. Alain Barchichat says

    Dec 25, 2016 at 11:43 am

    Merry Christmas Mr. Spencer, peace and joy to you and all your loved ones, and may the lights of Hannukah light your way into the new year. Stay well and G-D bless.

  21. warren raymond says

    Dec 25, 2016 at 2:22 pm

    “Reuters could not determine why the Trump team asked for these names.”

    That line is the kicker.

    One could get the impression that the Obama-Brennan regime colluded with Muslims to implement this “violent extremism” nonsense. There are many here among us to see a thorough investigation into why that happened.

  22. DFD says

    Dec 25, 2016 at 3:34 pm

    I hope that Trump will succeed. They may put up a fight, there about 26 known Jihad training camps in the US, so at least multiply by five (if not more) to get the real number; however, the US is still in a position to win with relatively minor losses of non-Muslims.

    Sorry, but I always assume the worst, that way round it’s fun being wrong.

    Now here’s the problem: George Soros, he may deal with him, but what about the other NGOs? With Soros still wielding his powers, the assault on the US and Europe may talk a different direction, but it will continue. Further, Soros’ NGOs are heavily linked with others, Rothschild comes up again and again in that context. So, from where on does Trump has to resort to deal making? I doubt that he will wield a sword all the way. On the other hand, he does have a temper, given the situation that’s an asset and a requirement.

    I further hope that he will also use the US’ muscle to affect change in Europe, he has enough sympathy for that, starts with the AfD in Germany. On the other hand, France, LePen? BIG QUESTION MARK! Same with the UK.

    Don’t get me wrong folks, like you I hope and pray for the nightmare to be brought to an end, and swiftly so. But Soros & Co. on one hand, and the political power of the oil money on the other…

    Let’s hope he stays his course **ALL THE WAY**. He has his work cut out. Also, Obama is already taking measures to continue, organizing, starting new organizations (where does the cash from?) and it seems the Clinton’s plus a lot of the Democrats are fully on board.

    Question to you Americans, does he have the majority in either or both houses. Which one is the more important one?

    Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!!!!

    • quota raven says

      Dec 25, 2016 at 5:00 pm

      DFD, who asks, ” …does he have the majority in either or both houses. Which one is the more important one?”

      Trump has identified himself (for better or for worse) as a Republican and ran on their ticket.(?)”

      As a result of our November election,Trump won the presidency for the Repubs, and the Repubs now dominate both the House of Representatives and the Senate. The Repubs also increased the number of Repub state governors (to 33, I believe, out of 50 states), and gained a lot of seats in various state governments.

      Neither the House nor the Senate is “more important” – they just have different tasks assigned to them by the Constitution. For example, proposing bills to become law is the job of the House. But the Senate votes on whether or not to approve the bill after it has passed in the House.

      Cheers!

      quota raven

      • DFD says

        Dec 26, 2016 at 3:04 pm

        Thanks,

        Now I know their functions, and that of the Senate, but: ‘House’ meaning congress or is there a different name for it.

        • quota raven says

          Dec 26, 2016 at 5:14 pm

          “Congress” means both the House and the Senate. Cheers! qr

  23. Bezelel says

    Dec 25, 2016 at 5:17 pm

    I suggest that declaring the muslim brotherhood a terrorist org. would go far in draining the swamp. Al Sisi did it so that would stifle the opposition somewhat. That would also implicate anyone with any history of involvement no matter how benign.

    • quota raven says

      Dec 25, 2016 at 5:21 pm

      To Bezelel, who sez, “That would also implicate anyone with any history of involvement no matter how benign.”

      You mean like “bye-bye, Uma?”

      Cheers!

      quota raven

      • Bezelel says

        Dec 25, 2016 at 8:40 pm

        quota raven, At least the uma in DC.

  24. Ronald says

    Dec 26, 2016 at 4:39 pm

    Any President who will counter violent extremism but \won’t ban the quran will fail.

  25. underbed cat says

    Feb 5, 2017 at 11:19 am

    Stephen Coughlin lawyer and islam expert. John Gudandolo expert Muslim brotherhood and of course Robert Spencer ….Clare Lopez David Horowitz, Center for SecurityFrank Gaffney

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