The UK Home Office banned me from entering the country for saying: “[Islam] is a religion and is a belief system that mandates warfare against unbelievers for the purpose for establishing a societal model that is absolutely incompatible with Western society” — which is a demonstrably true statement. The UK Home Office recently admitted Shaykh Hamza Sodagar into the country, despite the fact that he has said: “If there’s homosexual men, the punishment is one of five things. One – the easiest one maybe – chop their head off, that’s the easiest. Second – burn them to death. Third – throw ’em off a cliff. Fourth – tear down a wall on them so they die under that. Fifth – a combination of the above.” The Home Office also recently admitted two jihad preachers who had praised the murderer of a foe of Pakistan’s blasphemy laws. One of them was welcomed by the Archbishop of Canterbury.
But these three bishops from areas where Muslims are persecuting Christians cannot enter. Probably Home Office officials were afraid of offending their own Muslim population by doing so.
Britain is not finished?
“Britain BANS heroic bishops: Persecuted Christian leaders from war zones refused entry,” by Caroline Wheeler, Express, December 4, 2016:
THREE archbishops from war-torn Iraq and Syria have been refused permission to enter the UK despite being invited to London to meet Prince Charles.
The Christians, including the Archbishop of Mosul, were told there was “no room at the inn” by the Home Office when they applied for visas to attend the consecration of the UK’s first Syriac Orthodox Cathedral.
Last night the decision was described as “unbelievable” by critics who pointed out that extreme Islamic leaders had been allowed visas.
The Prince of Wales addressed the congregation at St Thomas Cathedral in London last week, while both the Queen and the Prime Minister sent personal messages of congratulations.
Prince Charles, who has previously described the persecution of the Christians in the Middle East as a “tragedy”, used his address to highlight the suffering of Syrian Christians.
But the welcome did not extend to Nicodemus Daoud Sharaf, the Archbishop of Mosul, nor to Timothius Mousa Shamani, the Archbishop of St Matthew’s, which covers the Nineveh valley in northern Iraq, who were refused UK visas to attend the event on November 24.
The UK also refused to grant a visa to Archbishop Selwanos Boutros Alnemeh, the Archbishop of Homs and Hama in Syria.
In his case the British embassy told him that it would not waiver from its policy of not granting visas to anyone in Syria.
The men were also told they were denied entry because they did not have enough money to support themselves and they might not leave the UK.
Last night the leader of the UK’s Syriac Orthodox Christians Archbishop Athanasius Toma Dawod condemned the decision.
He said: “These are men who have pressing pastoral responsibilities as Christian areas held by IS are liberated.
“That is why we cannot understand why Britain is treating Christians in this way?”
Dr Martin Parsons, head of research at the Barnabas Fund, an aid agency which has helped more than 8,000 Christians escape persecution at the hands of IS, said: “It’s unbelievable that these persecuted Christians who come from the cradle of Christianity are being told there is no room at the inn, when the UK is offering a welcome to Islamists who persecute Christians.”
The Home Office recently issued guidance stating that there should be a presumption that senior members of Egypt’s Muslim Brotherhood should be granted asylum in the UK – despite the fact that the Muslim Brotherhood has repeatedly incited violence against Egyptian Christians.
Dr Parsons also claims that visas were granted in July to two Pakistani Islamic leaders who have called for the killing of Christians accused of blasphemy.
He said: “There is a serious systemic problem when Islamist leaders who advocate persecution of Christians are given the green light telling them that their applications for UK visas will be looked on favourably, while visas for short pastoral visits to the UK are denied to Christian leaders whose churches are facing genocide.
“That is an urgent issue that Home Office ministers need to grasp and correct.”…

Stephanie says
… ban, also like brave Robert Spencer
http://quran.com/2/216 ‘Fighting has been enjoined upon …’
‘… So fight against the allies of Satan.’ (‘disbelieve’) http://quran.com/4/76
particolor says
Time to get rid of their Home Office !! They are on the Take !!
Anne Smith says
The Home Office is not fit for purpose. This has been known for some time, even before the present PM, Theresa May was in charge of it. During her reign Britain took more immigrants than ever before, even though the Government had pledged to cut the numbers to tens of thousands.
One of her nicknames – amongst those in the know – is Sharia May. Under her tenure Robert Spencer and Pamela Geller were banned from entry, although hate preacher Anjem Choudary and many of his colleagues were allowed to hold meetings, assemblies, marches etc. inciting hatred of Britain and demanding Sharia law.
Under Cameron and Blair Britain has lost its way. It will take more than May and her wet bunch of colleagues to sort the mess out.
Peter Varley says
Unbelievable!!
Dave says
Read the Quran, morn the 650 million murdered in the name of Islam. All for a black meteor rock in Mecca and the rantings of a sociopath. None of this deserves a intelligent discussion. You can tell the tree by the fruit it bears; murder, rape, pedophelia, slavery , hello Islam !
Sam Kent says
To Dave: Don’t forget Taqiyya
Real McCoy says
Dave, The British government they know all about Islam, but still they love them. WHY? because Moslims are raping their daughters and taking their houses.
Tom says
The UK, along with Germany and France is finished! We must save the rest of Europe if we are to survive as a nation.
Emmanuel Millord says
I don’t agree with this opinion, dispite the fact that christian people, in France particularly, is crushed between the rest of the revolution idee to fight the spirit of christians, and the growing of muslim propaganda… but christian people and ideas resit and the foolishness of theese two other opinions is more and more evident days after days: be patient, I think it will move quikly to the right way!…
Crusades Were Right! says
“The men were also told they were denied entry because they did not have enough money to support themselves and they might not leave the UK”
Impugning the honesty of bishops!
Shame on the Home Office! Shame on the British government!
no_one says
Crusades were wrong. They destroyed Constantinople. Byzantium recovered, but was left too week to battle the turks. So we have to than RC church for the century long ottoman oppression. And the British always sided with Ottomans. They have not been really Christian after 1054.
Thome says
And you of course are the arbiter of the crusades, the final word. Your comment is rediculous. Signing yourself as no_one I think says a lot about you for as a no_one you obviously don’t expect to be believed.
no_one says
My comment is the truth. My native country has suffered a lot from crusaders. They did bad things to Constantinople and “schismatics” and are one of the reasons we could not defeat the turks. Over the dark ages of ottoman rule western “Christians” sided with the turks most of the time. They did not care how they treated the “schismatics”. I don’t expect western people to believe me. They are too busy indulging in their wealth. No compassion for other human beings.
no_one says
And by the way killing is forbidden in Christianity. Catholics did kill in the name of the pope. They killed even Mt. Athos monks. So, they can’t be real Christians.
kangi_yotaka says
To be fair – and yes, it was a very long time ago, and it didn’t end up coming to fruition – when John I ruled England and the barons rose up against his abuses, they chased him around and were attempting to make him sign Magna Carta. In desperation, about 1200, John sent Bishop Roger and two other emissaries to Sultan Muhammad an-Nasr of Morocco to ask for help. He offered to make England moslem. An-Nasr wasn’t impressed and said no.
In short, no_one isn’t correct – but there’s a whiff of truth there.
gravenimage says
kangi_yotaka wrote:
To be fair – and yes, it was a very long time ago, and it didn’t end up coming to fruition – when John I ruled England and the barons rose up against his abuses, they chased him around and were attempting to make him sign Magna Carta. In desperation, about 1200, John sent Bishop Roger and two other emissaries to Sultan Muhammad an-Nasr of Morocco to ask for help. He offered to make England moslem. An-Nasr wasn’t impressed and said no.
In short, no_one isn’t correct – but there’s a whiff of truth there.
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I’m afraid that whiff is not of truth, but of something else…
King John was a largely reviled figure, especially in the years after his death. The *only* source for the Morocco story comes from a chronicler named Matthew Paris, writing decades later in the early 13th century.
The idea that any English monarch would offer to have his nation convert to Islam is really absurd–if John had been unpopular before, how popular would he have been at *that* point? Especially given Richard’s popularity, who was off on Crusade in the Holy Land.
The idea that a Muslim ruler would have turned down such an offer out of disgust at John’s groveling–as Paris claimed–is also pretty questionable, if he thought it would work otherwise.
This is, basically, a story intended to further blacken the name of an already unpopular king.
All reputable historians consider this story very doubtful–there is no corroborating evidence for it to be found.
Alien Republican says
Hmmm … why did the Byzantines start crusades in your opinion ? Did they treat their allies fairly ?
Fr John McMonagle says
Byzantines…start…crusades? Please unpack this statement.
Angemon says
no_one posted:
“Crusades were wrong.”
I assume you’re talking about the Crusades into the Holyland? Nope. Far from it. Were not for them, we’d be probably be talking Arabic and praying to allah in Western Europe nowadays.
“They destroyed Constantinople. Byzantium recovered, but was left too week to battle the turks.”
Was it the same Constantinople whose emperor said he’d rather fall to the Turks than ask Rome for help? The same Constantinople that massacred tens of thousands of its Catholic citizens on the grounds of their religion?
“So we have to than RC church for the century long ottoman oppression.”
Are you talking about the same RCC that for centuries spent bullion and lives fighting the Ottomans? Who arbitrated with warring nations, manaed to get seemingly impossible alliances and participated in key battles that kept the Turks away from Europe?
“And the British always sided with Ottomans. They have not been really Christian after 1054.”
When did Richard, the Lion-heart live?
no_one says
Turks were not kept away from Europe. Greece is Europe too. They suffered. Catholics captured a few islands and tried to convert the locals. The only Catholics is Constantinople were the crusaders that ruined it and killed many schismatics. Pope Johh Paul II apologized about that in his late years. But Catholics did kill Mt. Athos monks before the Turkish times. They did it in the name of the pope. Orthodoxy has never killed anyone in the name of Religion.
Angemon says
no_one posted:
“Turks were not kept away from Europe. Greece is Europe too.”
I said that the RCC arbitrated with warring nations, managed to get seemingly impossible alliances and participated in key battles that kept the Turks away from Europe. I *didn’t* say they were 100% successful. Without the RCC, in all likelihood the whole of Western Europe would have become a province of the Ottoman Empire centuries ago. And Eastern Europe would follow suite.
“Orthodoxy has never killed anyone in the name of Religion.”
Huh, what? How about the tens of thousand of Catholics killed in Constantinople by Orthodox because of their religion?
kangi_yotaka says
Richard I ruled England from 1189-1199, but he spent almost no time there. He was French and spent most of his time in France. He went to his investiture at Westminster Abbey, managed to set off a massacre of Jews by stripping and flogging the Jews who brought him gifts, and left shortly after on crusade. He spent nearly his entire reign on crusade or in prison. He seemed to think of himself as a storybook king; when someone shot him, he made a big deal of forgiving the man and giving him money. After Richard died, the guy was recaptured and killed.
Mac-101 says
We can forgive the Catholic Church for NOT supporting Orthodox Christians in there Battle against the Saracens. In fact the RC actually waged war against them as they fought the Mohammadens. It does point to me that the RC Church is NOT guided by the Holy Spirit and the Pope is Infallible.
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However as NO-ONE mentioned there is no excuse for the British Empire supporting the Ottomans against the Russians in the 19th century while Brittan was at the Number 1 world Power. Russia could easily have been a major ally for Brittan against German Expansion, posing no threat to her empire or sea lanes.
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Instead hundreds of thousand Eastern Europeans were murdered raped, turned into Janissaries or concubines for the Sultans.
no_one says
This is what I mean. My native country has not seen anything good from Brits or catholics.
no_one says
My whole point is that Orthodox are the ones that know how it feels to be a Christian under Islamic rule. It was no fun and they got little help from the west. Not even compassion. Only Russia helped them. I don’t want to see these times again.
Angemon says
no_one posted:
“My whole point is that Orthodox are the ones that know how it feels to be a Christian under Islamic rule.”
You need to take remedial classes in Western European history… Focus on Italy and Spain.
“It was no fun and they got little help from the west. Not even compassion. ”
Oh, you mean that the people who killed tens of thousand of Catholics because of their religion and stated they’d rather fall to the Turks than turn to Rome for help didn’t get help from the Catholics who were struggling to contain the Turkish threat from Spain to Austria? Imagine my surprise…
Alien Republican says
@no_one: Catholics in Spain, southern Italy didn’t ? I’m not a historian but from what I have read the arrogance of the Byzantines was hard to top. No help from the West ? Seriously ? Why did muslims have a much harder time with Catholics than with Orthodox Christians ? Maybe the Pope wasn’t a bad influence despite all slandering . I’t starting to suspect that competence and being abused by sore loosers seems to correlate. As far as “religious tolerance” is concerned you will find plenty of case of persecution of sectarians.
gravenimage says
The idea that it was the British Empire that ran the Islamic Janissary system is just mistaken.
Mac-101 says
Graven Image, I didn’t mean to imply that the Janissary were run by the British. It’s just that Britain supported the Ottomans during their Barbaric rule in the Balkans instead of aligning with the Russians. Heck, Weren’t the Czars related to the King of England?
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So by supporting the most evil faction of the Two the British were complicit in by inaction for the atrocities. I’ve read several letters rewritten by British sailors at the horror of the Armenian massacre and they were order not to assist the fleeing Christians. Some claimed so many were drowned in harbors trying to get on British ships that the Propellers were getting fouled up with the hair of dead Christina women. And this happened under Ataturk also.
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That said we ALL, RC, Protestant, Orthodox, Jew, Hindu, Buddhist and atheist need to work together to get along and fight against those who do NOT support the Golden Rule for ALL of Humanity.
Oliver says
Mac-101
RE: The Czars related to the British royal family- further down.
At the time of WW1–The Czar, The Kaiser (Ruler of Germany) and the King of England were first cousins to each other.
I am not sure of relationships prior.
gravenimage says
Mac, pretty much the only Christians who survived the Muslim destruction of Smyrna were indeed saved by British and American ships, taking them in shifts to safety in Greece.
There is no doubt that they should have acted sooner, but the idea that they did nothing is mistaken.
“The American who saved 250,000 from death during the Armenian genocide”
http://www.pri.org/stories/2015-04-24/american-who-saved-250000-death-during-armenian-genocide
Michael O'Neill says
The Venetians were responsible for the sack of Constantinople in 1204, and it was an action condemned by the Pope with the offenders excommunicated.
Mac-101 says
Thanks, I don’t remember that. Didn’t the Venice City State fight with the Byzantines over a few islands for a couple hundred years?
gravenimage says
Let’s sort out fact from fiction here–yes, some of those involved in the Forth Crusade broke ranks and sacked Constantinople in 1204. This was inexcusable, had nothing to do with the mission of the Crusades, and probably did weaken Byzantium. But it was the invading forces of Islam that had been chipping away at Byzantine power for seven centuries by the time the Muslim hordes took that city in 1453.
This was, as other posters note, condemned by the Pope–this was never a mission of the Crusades.
The reference to Mt. Athos probably refers to a raid by Catalan mercenaries in the 14th century. The monks there were actually under much greater threat from the Ottoman Muslims, which no_one does not seem to note at all.
And I have heard the claim before, made by a few Eastern Orthodox, that Christianity has not existed in the West since the 11th century. No unbiased person can consider this anything but ridiculous.
As for this claim about the West: “They are too busy indulging in their wealth. No compassion for other human beings”, really, nothing could be further from the truth. Westerners in general, and Western Christians in particular, are the most charitable people in the world.
Jack HOLAN says
I can see that the two of you are well versed on this period of history, probably better than I am at this time. However I will point out that the Crusaders did sharpen their killing acumen on Jews from Jewish villages throughout Europe on their journey to the Holyland. It’s a longtime ago but I also wouldn’t white wash it out of the picture. All this said today Jew Christian anyone not a Muslim we are all together in a war for survival and people from our collective group better wake up quickly.
gravenimage says
Jack, I am far from entirely uncritical of the Crusaders. Their violence towards Jews is inexcusable, as was the late sack of Constantinople. This was a violent period, and the Crusades share that violence.
But the Crusades–which went on for five hundred years and encompassed at least nine separate campaigns–certainly began as defense against Muslim aggression.
The legacy of the Crusades is an enormously complicated and still contentious one–but in the broad sense did, I think, check Muslim expansion into Western Europe. This was also, apart from Byzantium, some of the first serious organized opposition that Islam faced, and that cannot be seen as a bad thing.
no_one says
In 1284 26 monk and layman were burned in Zographou monastery on Mt. athos since they didn’t want to accept a union with the pope. Catholics have killed in the name of the pope. They are not true Christians. Don’t stand a chance against Muslims. It was with the blessing of the Byzantine emperor. As someone who has a family history in a country which has suffered from Ottomans for 5 centuries with no help from anywhere and any western “Christians” I have the full right to doubt the western christian values and to fear muslims. I am sorry, but my fear is not irrational. I am not Greek, but from that part of the world. British press used to call us names shortly before we got our freedom. Then they did everything possible to make our country smaller. The good thing is we kicked some turkish a** in the Balkan wars.
gravenimage says
no_one wrote:
They are not true Christians. Don’t stand a chance against Muslims.
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Actually, Catholics have driven back Muslim invaders many times, including at Poitier, at Lepanto, and at the Gates of Vienna.
More:
As someone who has a family history in a country which has suffered from Ottomans for 5 centuries with no help from anywhere and any western “Christians” I have the full right to doubt the western christian values and to fear muslims.
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This is, of course, utterly false. The West was very much involved in the liberation of Greece.
More:
I am sorry, but my fear is not irrational.
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Who here considers fear of Muslim aggression “irrational”? Has this poster forgotten he is at Jihad Watch?
More:
I am not Greek, but from that part of the world. British press used to call us names shortly before we got our freedom. Then they did everything possible to make our country smaller. The good thing is we kicked some turkish a** in the Balkan wars.
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Lord Byron fought for Greek freedom, and many Britons stood with him. It is unfortunate that no_one appears to have forgotten this, and seems to hate Westerners more than he does ravening Mohammedans. But then, we’ve seen this before…
no_one says
gravenimage,
my country was liberated from Russia, not the west. We have not seen anything good from the west. I don’t hate westerners, just doubt their Christian values. They look hypocritical to me. I am not sure who liberated Greece. Have to check this. We fell under the turks earlier. Actually Greeks were against us over those centuries trying to make us think we were Greek.
no_one says
To be honest the west helped Greece, but not us. And we were liberated much later. Family history still remembers turkish times. What I have learned is that Islam is the problem. It hasn’t changed. Our folklore has many songs about enslaved people, people killed, because they refused to convert. Many cities were burned multiple times, churches too. We had many uprisings. I am not sure why the west didn’t notice us for such a long time. They defeated the turks, because turks were busy with our uprisings. The last one being only a couple of years before liberation. Turks were not much different from what ISIS does. The Islam has not changed and these poor people in the Middle East are living through this now. And btw the remaining turks in our country still call us kuffar. We have these migrants and they don’t behave. I fear for my family every day. And the west is trying to appease the Muslims.
no_one says
BTW I don’t hate Catholics and the west. I just doubt their Christian values. I would love to convince myself they follow Christ, but this is not what I see in western countries. I know some Catholics that are nice, but I am still not sure that is the right denomination. I am sure the Orthodoxy is right.
Tom says
I’m with Jack Hollan. It would be better to let past transgressions remain in the past and join together in the present to defeat the present Islamic foe.
For those who are unsatisfied with generation after generation of containment of Islam, with the West constantly at risk of falling, I propose the creation of a Christian state, Antioch, out of present day Lebanon and western Syria 50 km in from the Med, north to the Turkish border.
Once the Globalists, who like to use Islam as a tool against free Christian peoples, are defeated and removed, I believe this is something that Russia and the Western alliance could make happen.
gravenimage says
no_one, William Gladstone published his “Bulgarian Horrors and the Question of the East”, calling upon Britain to withdraw its support for Turkey and proposing that Europe demand independence for Bulgaria.
As the details became known across Europe, many dignitaries, including Charles Darwin, Oscar Wilde, Victor Hugo and Giuseppe Garibaldi publicly condemned the Ottoman atrocities in Bulgaria.
The idea that there was no support for the freedom of the Balkans from the savage Muslim Ottoman Empire is simply mistaken.
gravenimage says
Sorry–that last sentence should have read: The idea that there was no support for the freedom of the Balkans from the savage Muslim Ottoman Empire in the West is simply mistaken.
spa says
@thome ,,,What noOne says is the tragic truth .Western Christians sided with the invading Turks and helped in eliminating Christians from its cradle …The same they followed throughout their history and sided or became silent partner in the Armenian/Assyrian/Syriac Christian Genocide of Turkey ,Grate fire of Smyrna (Now IZmir) ,Killing /replacing its majority Christian population and even now …see the ridiculous and pathetic attitude of UK,Pope to the Christians of Middle east . When you wail for your foe but neglect the sufferings of your own brother ,yo are not saint but only a hypocrite ..So I am sad to say that Pope ,Archbishop of Canterbury and the British Christians are a bunch of Hypocrites who has not done a bit of service to their fellow Chritians . Two Bishops are in the ISIS custody ..not a word from these so called Christians ,,now no Visa for Christians ,but pathetically welcomes all the Islamist and hardcore Muslim terrorists !!!! What to call you ,western name sake Christians …Christians ..or baastaards???
Christianblood says
spa posted
(..When you wail for your foe but neglect the sufferings of your own brother ,yo are not saint but only a hypocrite ..So I am sad to say that Pope ,Archbishop of Canterbury and the British Christians are a bunch of Hypocrites who has not done a bit of service to their fellow Christians..)
You are right, spa! Western governments and the majority of their post-modernist, secular societies love islam and muslims, including islamic jihadists but hate, despise and denigrate Christians and refusing visas to these middle eastern bishops is another of example of that undeniable fact.
Angemon says
Christianblood posted:
“Western governments and the majority of their post-modernist, secular societies love islam and muslims, including islamic jihadists but hate, despise and denigrate Christians”
And there you go parroting the same old, tired propaganda again. Weren’t you warned about treating the West as a monolith? BTW, it’s not the West that made the preaching of the Gospel illegal and is jailing Christians for doing so:
http://www.christianpost.com/news/christians-russia-refuse-stop-sharing-the-gospel-despite-putins-ban-evangelism-167442/
http://www.christianpost.com/news/christian-leaders-arrested-russia-law-banning-evangelism-outside-churches-goes-into-effect-168852/
But I guess facts don’t matter when you’re paid to spread lies…
Christianblood says
Angemon
If it is not for their hatred of Christians why would the UK and the US deny entry visa for these ME bishops when the UK and the US let in thousands of muslims every month, including muslim jihadist preachers??? It is clear you are always pissed off when you see someone exposing your Anti-Christ Western establishment buddies. Right?
https://shariaunveiled.wordpress.com/2015/07/11/u-s-state-department-denies-visas-for-persecuted-assyrian-christians/
Angemon says
Ah, and there it is – the flinging of “anti-Christ” and “establishment”, like a monkey with its feces. Like I said, it’s not in the West that you so clearly ahte that Christians can be arrested for preaching the Gospel, it is in your precious little Russia, which you have been parading around as the paragon of Christianity for months. And facts seem to be a giant wrench in your little propaganda machine, don’t they? Kinda hard to pretend you live in a Christian nation when you can be jailed for preaching the Gospel…
gravenimage says
spa wrote:
What to call you ,western name sake Christians …Christians ..or baastaards???
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More unhinged ranting from those whose hatred is not aimed at Islam, but at the West.
And his pal “Christianblood” is ranting about the West being the “Anti-Christ”.
Does spa want to see the West invaded and conquered by Muslims as “Christianblood” does? Certainly, it would not surprise.
He dismisses Russian dhimmitude–even inviting in Muslims, enabling a nuclear Iran, and saying that Eastern Orthodoxy has more in common with Islam than with Catholicism as of no importance.
Whereas I–and most Anti-Jihadists here–condemn dhimmitude wherever we find it. But then, we oppose Islam–unlike those who are more focused on their hatred of the West.
john spielman says
I am afraid that with every stupid decision a like this that accommodates islamic terrorist at the expense of peaceful non muslims (like Robert Spencer and these Christian bishops), the UK edges closer to a very UN CIVIL WAR!
Anne Smith says
Doesn’t seem to stop them granting asylum to anyone who gets here illegally or otherwise.
John A. Marre says
The UK is willingly committing suicide.
Anne Smith says
Some of us are not willing, but it is a hard job to overthrow the Government these days even if most of them are fools.
Christianblood says
John A. Marre
It is not only the UK, the same pro-islamic and anti-Christian attitudes are trending across the Western world, including in the US. Read more on the link below:
https://shariaunveiled.wordpress.com/2015/07/11/u-s-state-department-denies-visas-for-persecuted-assyrian-christians/
Angemon says
Christianblood posted:
“It is not only the UK, the same pro-islamic and anti-Christian attitudes are trending across the Western world, including in the US.”
Funny how it was not the UK or US – you know, places your propaganda claims to be anti-Christian – that made preaching the Gospel illegal and are arresting people for doing so:
http://www.christianpost.com/news/christians-russia-refuse-stop-sharing-the-gospel-despite-putins-ban-evangelism-167442/
http://www.christianpost.com/news/christian-leaders-arrested-russia-law-banning-evangelism-outside-churches-goes-into-effect-168852/
But I guess facts don’t matter when you’re paid to spread lies…
gravenimage says
Russia has also refused to take in Christian refugees from Syria, ludicrously claiming that Syria is “safe”. Tell that to the Christian sex slaves in the Islamic State…
The fact is that *no* part of Dar-al-Harb is doing enough to take in Infidel refugees from Muslim savagery–but those whose only agenda here is defaming the West cannot admit that this is a problem all over.
Peggy says
I am so angry at all of them.
I am not hearing any religious leader taking up the cause to expose Islam and work toward helping non Muslims.
I might be wrong but I don’t know of anyone directing his followers to spread the truth or getting on anyone’s back to try to force them to change course.
It’s as though all the religious leaders are failing their followers.
Ordinary people like you and I are trying hard to spread the truth but if they were dedicated to righteous cause we just might see some progress.
What on earth is going on? Why are they all so quiet?
Christianblood says
gravenimage
Dear Graven, without the support that Russia is giving to the Syrian government of Assad, Syria would have been taken over by the various islamic jihadist groups supported by the West and millions of Christians and other minorities would have been decimated!
Look what happened to the Iraqi Christians? For the first time in close to 1800, there is NO church bells or Christian mass being done in Iraq today!!! The same thing would have happened to the Syrian Christians if Russia did not intervene on behalf of the government there. Graven, I just can’t understand why the majority of the people in the West, including Christians can’t see that very obvious fact???
Angemon says
Christianblood posted:
“gravenimage
Dear Graven, without the support that Russia is giving to the Syrian government of Assad, Syria would have been taken over by the various islamic jihadist groups supported by the West and millions of Christians and other minorities would have been decimated!”
Are you talking about the groups that Assad dabbled with and went out of his way to strengthen? Didn’t the early Russian bombings targeted all groups except for ISIS?
MRR says
THE U.K. LIKE THE REST OF WHAT WAS THE FREE WORLD IS OCCUPIED COLONIZED AND SUBJUGATED TO THE FASCIST ISLAMIISM OF THE MOHAMMEDAN OTTOMANS.
Tom Horsefield says
Christianity is dead in UK; Islam controls UK. Do the British realize this horrible state of their country?
GPG says
spineless brits!!,, i guess they did not utter the magic rod..allahu snackbar!!..lets get them enrolled in some quranic studies and show how pluralistic islamofacism can be….
GPG says
spineless brits!!,, i guess they did not utter the magic word..allahu snackbar!!..lets get them enrolled in some quranic studies and show how pluralistic islamofacism can be….
Oliver says
And JW the other day had a post from some British newspaper about American gun violence, and some limey in his comment made mention that the US has the highest murder rate ( or some such nonsense) of countries with the same population.
But they ( the British- who probably still think Dunkirk was a victory)- deny short term entry to Christians. They ( British) deserve what they get form the Muslims.
Anne Smith says
Unfair on the rest of us who didn’t vote this lot in.
Oliver says
And what I had read was the Lsbour Party leader was the son of communists. I mean intellectual Marxists
And far left. And an anti Semite
Actually a self hating Jew.
John Hawk says
The UK insists on swallowing Islam whole and only succeeds in choking on it. No Heimlich maneuver for idiocy, I’m afraid.
Westman says
Hypocrisy and subjectiveness are fruits of a cultureless leadership and it’s going to be another fruitful year in Europe. Hopefully, 2017 will be the US year of pulling up some over-producing trees of bitter fruit.
Voytek Gagalka says
Britain already submitted and is now in dhimmis lethargy stage. It will take full blown REVOLUTION (hopefully bloodless one) to change all that.
Sibila says
that is what is the UK gvt afraid of, and that is why those bishops are denied entry
Peggy says
They are only enraging people more by not letting them in.
Alien Republican says
I hope for a President Trump draining the US administration from the brotherhood swamp. That might open the minds over hear for looking harder who is serving hom in reality.
Jack Holan says
The FO has always had this ‘love affair’ with Islam and Romanticism about it that is pure fantasy but I shouldn’t throw too many stones since the US State Dept isn’t much better. The only thing I can say Brits find out who the decision maker was for this terrible Act of Cowardice and Sense of Treason to English Values AND the Messenger to each prelate. Then make a point of publicly shaming these “people” publicly when opportunity presents itself.
Oliver says
Jack, you are right about the state dept.
Just a year or two ago, a state dept. official referred to PM Bibi N. as a chickenshit.
The US official in the useless nations refugee group for the “palestinians” was “overjoyed” when hamas terrorists killed 4 rabbis and an off duty policeman, while praying.
And going back- in the late 1950’s or early to mid 1960’s, the Reader’s Digest had AT LEAST ONE STORY about a state department official (or officials) WHO DREAMED OF ONE ISLAMIC STATE, FROM NORTH AFRICA THROUGH ARABIA AND THE MIDDLE EAST, ENCOMPASSING (amongst other countries) Egypt, Iraq, Syria, etc. ( No mention, as best I recall of Israel- but the ONE ISLAMIC STATE, I took to mean the destruction of Israel.) (I was in school at this time- and cannot remember which school- 50+ years ago).
But nothing has changed.
(Also, go back 4 years- when Romney complemented Israel and Israelis and and compared them favorably to the Muslim states. Go back to 1948- Truman’s State Dept.-inherited from FDR was anti-Truman and against Israel. So Trumna, admittedly pressured by Jews that he knew, liked and were his friends, like the late Mr. Jacobs, recognized israel- and the State Dept. went ape feces
ibrahim itace muhammed says
these so-called bishops from syria and iraq,if at all they exist,must be very stupid for allowing themselves to be used as tools by pro-jews to concoct lies against their muslim country men.since they come from the midleast they must know that al-baghdadi (originally known as elliot)the leader of evil isis is a mossad agent sponsored to kill both muslim and christian arabs in the same way zionists are directly carrying out mass killings of muslim and christian arabs in palestine and israel.before this crisis fueled by christian west for the benefit of evil israel, muslims and christians had been living together peacefully in this region. isis was sponsored to creat disharmony among arab muslims and christians there .asked any indigenous christian in that region if he had ever experienced such persecution in the hand of his fellow arab muslim.thus, i doubt much if these bishops are indegenous christians from this region.i know that every body in this region, whether muslim or christian is complaining against these wicked terrorist groups like isis.no christian there is saying islam is the cause,because he knows islam was never used to persecute him before this crisis.you wicked filthy mithraist christians from the west are in fact the accomplices in the persecution of christian arabs through your masters the evil jews.
Angemon says
Hi Ebionite. Got any evidence to back those ludicrous allegations of yours?
Allan says
In other words, Ebionite, “bring your evidence”. (Koran 2:111, 21:24, 27:64, 28:75)
(sic) gravenimage says
Appalling Muslim apologist ibrahim itace muhammed wrote:
these (sic) so-called bishops from syria (sic) and iraq,if (sic) at all (sic) they exist,must (sic) be very stupid for allowing themselves to be used as tools by pro-jews (sic) to concoct lies against their muslim (sic) country men (sic).
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Where to start? The idea that these Bishops may not exist is ludicrous–they are pictured and mentioned by name. Christianity dates back *centuries* in Syria and Iraq–in fact, it much predates Islam in those lands.
Under Shari’ah Infidels are prevented from even complaining about their savage oppression. Characterizing their daring to mention it as being “pro-jews” is insane–as though it is only Jews who care about Christians and other Infidels being persecuted in Dar-al-Islam.
More:
since (sic) they come from the midleast (sic) they must know that al-baghdadi (originally known as elliot)the (sic) leader of evil isis is a mossad (sic) agent sponsored to kill both muslim (sic) and christian (sic) arabs (sic) in the same way zionists (sic) are directly carrying out mass killings of muslim (sic) and christian arabs (sic) in palestine (sic) and israel (sic).
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Ludicrous. Firstly, Christians have long been persecuted and murdered in the Muslim Middle East–long before the rise of ISIS. They were facing full eradication in these places before the Islamic State reared its ugly head.
Also, if devout Muslim and Islamic scholar al-Baghdadi really were a Jewish fellow named Elliot, why would so many devout Muslims be flocking to the Islamic State to die for him? The fact is that the Caliphate is an *Islamic* idea, not a Jewish one. Everything that goes on in the Islamic State is orthodox Shari’ah, from crucifying boys who have run afoul of Ramadan strictures to using Christian and Yezidi girls as sex slaves.
And the only place in the Middle East that Christians are safe is in Israel.
More:
before (sic) this crisis fueled by christian (sic) west for the benefit of evil israel (sic), muslims (sic) and christians (sic) had been living together peacefully in this region.
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Does he think we are incapable of casting back a mere half decade or so ago?
Here’s a story from December of 2010, before the rise of ISIS:
“The grave human tragedy of the Christians in the Middle East, particularly in Iraq, has worsened dramatically”
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/12/the-grave-human-tragedy-of-the-christians-in-the-middle-east-particularly-in-iraq-has-worsened-drama
More:
isis (sic) was sponsored to creat (sic) disharmony among arab (sic) muslims and christians (sic) there .asked (sic) any indigenous christian (sic) in that region if he had ever experienced such persecution in the hand of his fellow arab (sic) muslim (sic).
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Muslims have been persecuting and murdering Christians in the Middle East for centuries–that is why there is just a tiny remnant of them surviving there today.
Here is a story, posted the same day as the one above:
“Baghdad bomb attacks on Christians: ‘I think there is complicity by security forces helping insurgents to implement their attacks’”
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/12/baghdad-bomb-attacks-on-christians-i-think-there-is-complicity-by-security-forces-helping-insurgents
Is this murderous savagery what muhammed considers “harmony”? Probably so…
There are thousands more stories like it.
More:
thus, i doubt much if these bishops are indegenous (sic) christians (sic) from this region.i (sic) know that every body in this region, whether muslim (sic) or christian (sic) is complaining against these wicked terrorist groups like isis (sic).
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This is, of course, absurd. Many pious Sunnis are, in fact, running off to join ISIS.
More:
no (sic) christian (sic) there is saying islam is the cause,because (sic) he knows islam was never used to persecute him before this crisis.
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Unless you consider being raped and bombed persecution–I suppose muhammed does not…
More:
you (sic) wicked filthy mithraist (sic) christians (sic) from the west are in fact the accomplices in the persecution of christian (sic) arabs (sic) through your masters the evil jews (sic).
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Christians are not persecuted in Israel–but they are in every Muslim nation. This is not even vaguely plausible Taqiyya. Try again, Mohammedan.
(sic) gravenimage says
One more thing–the whole idea that al-Baghdadi is a Jewish guy named Elliot was put out by the Mullahs–always a reliable source of information…sarc/off
This was intended to smear Sunnis as much as it was Israel.
Angemon says
+1
gravenimage says
🙂
Oliver says
What I have seen Ibrasshole-is that ISRAEL IS THE ONLY PLACE IN THE ENTIRE MIDDLE EAST where Christians are not persecuted. And, there are (in the IDF) Druze officers-including-at least-if still there-one general-possibly more; a Muslim or two in the Knesset- where are there Jews OR CHRISTIANS in any Muslim Parliament? (is there a Muslim country with a freely elected parliament
Stan Lee says
The bias of the stupid UK Home Office keeps Christian clergy out, while appeasing entry of Islamic clergy.
Obviously, the UK Home Office is trying to avoid Middle-East Christian clergy because if Muslims in the UK have access to Christian clergy, while living in a freer environment, they may convert to Christianity, which has been happening of late even in Islamic lands. These people convert with the threat of torture and death hanging over them….they still convert of their own free will.
Conversions have started being undertaken by Mid-East Muslims to Christianity, despite the perils they brave in Arab and Mid-East lands.
katherine says
Doubt it’s simply the bias of the Home Office – someone in the know might enlighten us on who the embedded Brotherhood officials are, in that department and how they effectively wield their power on visa and immigration procedures.
The Royals are also suspect for not imposing their will on those imposing religious discrimination upon Royal Guests – wonder whether it was planned that way. Invite them, then ban them.
Paula says
Bring them to the US if they are good people. Forget “no-longer Christian” Europe. They want to embrace the Muslim hordes, let them do so. And then they will earn the price of embracing the savage culture that will come in with those “refugees.”
gravenimage says
UK bans three bishops from Iraq and Syria from entering the country
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*Appalling*.
Baucent says
“The men were also told they were denied entry because they did not have enough money to support themselves and they might not leave the UK.”
ballocks! do they really look like three guys who will hang around the streets dealing drugs?
But really this is a continuation of the British government policy of banning anyone who might shame Islam with stories of muslim persecution of Christians and other minorities. They do not want those stories aired on television or in the newspapers as it would damage the mythical “community cohesion”. Britain is now a country where free speech is dead and now they are after “thought crime.”
ECAW says
What a traditionalist you are Baucent! These days everyone spells it with an “o”.
Baucent says
I am a traditionalist and that is an earthy traditional word.
Peggy says
I’m waiting to hear that the Archbishop of Canterbury is going to protest about this.
Maybe the Pope will have something to say or perhaps Bishop Kiril of Russia.
Anyone think that the Dalai Lama is going to make any noise about this or any Hindu leader will speak out?
The one who should shout the loudest is the Archbishop of Canterbury because it’s happening in his country. Let’s see how Christian he really is. If he is not prepared to speak up now then he is no better than the last one.
Anne Smith says
Don’t hold your breath.
Dennis says
Overthrow the British government! Soon they will ban Jewish Rabbinic scholars from entering the U.K. Only terrorist Muslims can enter if the pledge to murder or rape a few Brits!
Michael McDermott says
Disgusting on the part of both HMG and E&W [Catholic (?)] Bishops’ Conference.
Phaulkon says
It is commonly believed that the last Divine Liturgy in Hagia Sophia in Constantinople took place on May 28, 1453. However, the last Divine Liturgy to really take place in Hagia Sophia was on the 19th of January in 1919, which was officiated by Papa Lefteris Noufrakis (1872-1941) from Rethymno, Crete. The story of this historic event is below.
Once my grandfather told me about a Cretan priest, a true lad, who in January 1919 liturgized under the thousand year old domes of Hagia Sophia!
He knew him well, because he was a military chaplain of the same Division he was in, the Division that later participated in the Asia Minor Campaign and arrived at the gates of Ankara, and drank water from the Sakarya! But alas! this cool water later turned into a hot fiery river of pain and suffering, that burned the hearts of all Greeks.
I did not pay much attention to the words of my grandfather at the time. What he told me seemed impossible, and I considered them to be the result of delirium, a remnant of those unbearable days, and the unimaginable pain my grandfather felt when he recalled the past, and heard the words Ionia, Smyrna, Pergamum, Ayvalık, Trebizond, Kerasos, Saggarios, Eskisechir, Afyonkarahisar, The City, Hagia Sophia! These words had a place in my grandfathers mind and heart, which he held most sacred and nostalgic in this life, even more sacred than his children, his grandchildren, his own life!
Dozens of times I noticed him with my childhood eyes crying – sometimes erupting into sobs and redemptive laments – offering up these holy names which he identified with the timeless history and presence of our Nation on earth. At the time I understood nothing, or almost nothing. Only a vague question dominated my soul from this special stance of my grandfather. Shortly afterwards I realized the crucial impact of these tears, these cries, in my own soul. I understand now, and I will always feel it prevail throughout my being.
My grandfather certainly was right when he said that in January 1919 Hagia Sophia liturgized! The protagonist of this shocking fact of our national life, which unfortunately many Greeks are ignorant of, was a true lad, a sprout from leventi-generating Crete, whose brave children always were a great presence in the struggles of our Nation, from ancient times (Idomeneus, Nearchus etc.) to our days (Macedonian Struggle, Drisko in Epirus, etc.). We are referring to Papa Lefteris Noufrakis from Alones in Rethymno, who served as a military chaplain in the second Greek Division, one of the two Divisions that participated in the early 1919 “allied” expeditionary force in Ukraine. This Division, on the way to Ukraine, briefly stopped in Constantinople, the City of the dreams of the Greek people, which was then under “allied domination” following the end of World War I.
A group of Greek officers, led by the brave Cretan, together with the Brigadier Frantzis, Major Liaromatis, Captain Stamatios and Lieutenant Nicholas gazed at the City and Hagia Sophia from the ship, hiding deep in their hearts their great secret, their great decision which they made the previous night, after the proposal and strong insistence of the lion-hearted Cretan Papa Lefteris Noufrakis. They were to disembark in the City and liturgize in Hagia Sophia!
All of them were skeptical when they heard Papa Lefteris propose this great enterprise. They knew that things were very difficult. Hagia Sophia was still a mosque, and surely some guards would be there, while others would be going to pray, and it wasn’t difficult for it to be filled from one moment to another. And then there were their superiors, who would not be in favor of such an action, and it would cause a storm among the “allies” for such a “provocation”. It would perhaps even create a diplomatic episode that would embarrass the Greek government and Prime Minister Eleftherios Venizelos. But Papa Lefteris had made his decision, and he was decisive and assertive.
“If all of you don’t come, I will go by myself! I only want one chanter. You, Constantine (Liaromatis), will you be my chanter?”
“All right, dear Father,” the Major replied, who also took the same stance, and everything was in order.
Eventually, all of them went. The ship carrying the Division anchored in the open sea, so they boarded a boat and a Romios took them to the City, and they soon landed at the waterfront. Kosmas, the native boatman, tied the boat and led them along the shortest path to Hagia Sophia. The door was open as if it was waiting for them. The Turkish guard went to say something in his own language, but a fierce and decisive look by Brigadier Frantzis put him in his place and left him speechless. All entered with reverence and made the sign of the cross. Papa Lefteris whispered with great emotion: “I will enter into Your house, and I will venerate towards Your Holy Temple with fear….”
Progressing quickly and without procrastinating, he identified the location of the Sanctuary and the Holy Altar. Finding a small table, he put it in place, he opened his bag, and took out everything needed for the Divine Liturgy. Then he put on his stole and began:
“Blessed is the Kingdom of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, now and forever, and unto the ages of ages.”
“Amen,” responded Major Liaromatis, and the Divine Liturgy at Hagia Sophia began.
“I hope God makes us worthy to complete this,” everyone thought, crossing themselves with devotion. The officers seemed to have been at a loss, everything happened so suddenly and it was unbelievable.
The Divine Liturgy proceeded as normal. After 466 entire years Hagia Sophia was liturgizing again! Papa Lefteris continued. Everything was done with sacred propriety, according to the rubrics of the Church. One could hear the “peace be with all,” the “Lord have mercy,” the “O Only-begotten Son and Word of God,” which was written by Justinian himself, who ordered and cared for the building of Hagia Sophia. The Small Entrance followed, then the “To you the Champion Leader,” the Epistle was read by Brigadier Frantzis and the Gospel Reading was done by Papa Lefteris. The duties of the sacristan were performed by Lieutenant Nicholas.
Meanwhile Hagia Sophia began to be filled with Turks. Papa Noufrakis was not daunted and continued. Others looked bemused at this fearless priest and the Turks, who until that moment were observing with silence, could not believe their eyes, because that which was taking place at that moment was truly unbelievable.
The Gospel was followed by the Cherubic Hymn by Major Liaromatis, while Papa Lefteris placed the antimension on the table, to do the Proskomidi. The Turks continued to multiply. As time passed it was tough, but also unforgettable and epic. Papa Noufrakis continued. He takes a small Holy Chalice out of his bag, a paten, a knife and a small prosphoron with a small bottle of wine. With sacred emotion and devotion he does the Proskomidi, while Liaromatis continued chanting the Cherubic Hymn. When the Proskomidi was completed, he turned to Lieutenant Nicholas and told him to light a candle so he could follow him during the Great Entrance. The young Lieutenant went ahead and lit the candle, behind him was the priest crying out: “May the Lord God remember all of us….”
Then the Supplications and the Creed followed, which was said by Frantzis. Meanwhile Hagia Sophia was full of Turks and among them were many Greeks from the City, who happened to be there at the moment the Divine Liturgy was being celebrated, and they followed along with emotion, without daring to externalize their feelings “for fear of the Jews,” that is, the Turks. Only at certain times they could not restrain their tears flowing from their eyes and not betray their care, wiping them away before they became a “fiery” river which they could not hold back.
The Liturgy meanwhile reached its most sacred point – the Anaphora. With an emotional voice Papa Lefteris said: “Your own of Your own, we offer to You, for all and through all.” All the officers knelt and the voice of Major Liaromatis could be heard chanting: “We sing to You, we bless You, we thank You, Lord, and we pray to You, our God.” After a short while the bloodless sacrifice of our Lord was completed in Hagia Sophia, after 466 entire years! This was followed by the “Axion Estin,” the “Our Father,” and the “With the fear of God, faith and love draw near,” and all the officers approached to commune from the Immaculate Mysteries. Papa Lefteris quickly said the prayers while Liaromatis chanted: “Blessed be the Name of the Lord…,” while the rest of the Holy Communion was consumed. Speaking to Lieutenant Nicholas, he said: “Gather everything quickly and put it in the bag,” then he did the Dismissal!
The Divine Liturgy in Hagia Sophia was completed. It was the dream of dozens of generations of Greeks, and it had become a reality. Papa Noufrakis and the four officers were ready to leave and return to the ship. Hagia Sophia however was full of Turks, who began to become enraged and aggressive when they realized what happened. The Greeks were in immediate danger. But they did not hesitate, and approached each other, becoming as “one body,” and they proceeded towards the exit.
The Turks were ready to attack them, when a Turkish official presented himself with others following him, saying: “Let them pass.” He said it with hatred. He wanted to paint his hands with their blood, but at that moment this is how things had to be, and it was not in the interest of their country nor necessary to kill five Roman officers in Hagia Sophia.
Do not forget that around the City were two embattled Greek Divisions and that Constantinople was essentially under the dominance of the victors of World War I, and this of course did not include the Turks.
On hearing this the Turks retreated. Papa Noufrakis and the other officers exited Hagia Sophia and headed for the waterfront, where a boat waited for them.
A husky Turk followed them, and lifting a piece of wood he rushed to hit Papa Noufrakis. He sensed that this priest was the instigator, the creator of this event. The heroic priest bent to avoid being hit, but the Turk managed to hit him on the shoulder. His body bent from the unbearable pain, but he gathered his strength, got up, and continued on his way. Meanwhile Major Liaromatis and Captain Stamatios disarmed the Turk, who was ready to give his most powerful and probably final blow to the priest.
Finally, they approach the boat. They all enter. Kosmas gathered all the ropes and begins to quickly row. Soon they boarded the Greek warship safe and victorious. Of course there followed a diplomatic incident, and the “allies” strongly protested to Prime Minister Eleftherios Venizelos, who was forced to reprimand Papa Lefteris Noufrakis. But secretly he contacted him and “praised and congratulated the patriot priest, who even for a short time brought Hagia Sophia to life, the most sacred dream of our Nation.”
In a few lines this was the history of the Divine Liturgy that took place after 466 years in Hagia Sophia by the heroic Papa Lefteris Noufrakis. Certainly most modern Greeks are ignorant of this. The name of the lion-hearted Cretan says nothing to our minds and hearts. But this simple priest from Alones in Rethymno lifted on his shoulders and brought to life, even for a short time, one of the most epic, most holy and most sacred dreams of the Nation. Source: johnsanidopoulos.com
gravenimage says
Unfortunately, just after this Turkey slaughtered most of the Christian Greeks remaining there, as part of the Armenian Genocide.
Charles says
I think that Satan himself must have a very strong influence over the Home office!
Else why overrun the nation with SAVAGES and refuse anyone who might be able to explain the TRUTH to the Voters!
It’s a very sad day in the UK. These idiot political leaders are taking the people straight to HELL!
Anne Smith says
The Foreign Office has always had a strong leaning towards Arabia. This was in the days when they had very learned and good men working in the Foreign Office, however, who really knew their stuff. Most spoke Arabic and our policies in the Middle East were well informed.
Today, after Blair and Brown’s left wing politicisation of the Civil Service, followed by the incredibly stupid and lazy Cameron who couldn’t understand anything, we see the Foreign Office staffed by political lefties and devoid of intellectual content.
The silly and conceited William Hague became Foreign Secretary and was soon churning out all their leftie propaganda with gusto. May has put Boris Johnson in charge of it now and it would appear that he has “gone native” also and is spouting a load of FO leftie tripe and pro Arab rubbish.
ECAW says
“Britain is not finished?”
No, not quite. There are occasional outbreaks of common sense, for instance:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4000062/Swear-oath-live-Britain-Major-report-says-migrants-pledge-follow-values-soon-arrive-says-pace-immigration-communities.html
But will you ever see them on Jihad Watch?
gravenimage says
Well, this is something, ECAW–very glad to see it.
But I doubt that most Muslims would be sincere in taking such an oath. Candidates for American citizenship have to take an oath of allegiance–when the Jihadist who tried to bomb Times Square was asked about his oath, he said, “I swore it, but I did not mean it”.
I’m afraid this is apt to be the case in Britain, as well.
varn says
enemy controlling UK gates
dumbledoresarmy says
British jihadwatchers have a chance to take some action: to get out on the streets and be visible and be counted.
The British Pakistani Christian Association are planning a demonstration on behalf of persecuted Pakistani Christian woman, Asia Bibi, on 10 December.
Outside the Pakistani High Commission In Lowndes Square, London, starting at 10 am on Saturday 10 December. That is: this Saturday coming. The protesters will be presenting petitions on Asia’s behalf, both at No 10 Downing St and at the Pakistani High Commission.
I would encourage all British jihadwatchers here present to do their level best to *be* there, in London, with the BPCA. Because the more people go along, the more visibly powerful the Resistance will be; and you will have the opportunity t9 *network*, to find other likeminded people (go early! be amongst the first to arrive! strike up conversations!). Go even if you are not Christian; this is about pan-infidel solidarity.
These protests should snowball. They should be attended by *thousands*. There should be *more* infidels out there, than Mohammedan mobsters in their rent-a-riot insta-mobs.
As well as going along to Lowndes Square at 10 am on Saturday 10 December 2016, to speak up for Asia Bibi, victim of sharia and of Muslim malevolence; pester your pollies on her behalf. The more infidel Voters they see speaking up, the more they see getting out on the streets, the more they may begin to see that there *are* still more Infidels in the UK, than Muslims, right now. And those with a glimmering of conscience and commonsense may be emboldened to step up to the plate, and do something.
dumbledoresarmy says
British jihadwatchers: whether Christian or non-Christian – there is nothing to stop you pestering your politicians and letting them know just what you think of this sort of behaviour, this double standard, the exclusion of decent Christian leaders of persecuted Christians, whilst admitting evil jihad-inciting mohammedans.
Let your MPs and your PM and the Foreign Office know, loud and clear, what you think.
*Also*, whether Christian or non-Christian – make sure that the Queen as nominal ‘head’ of the Anglican communion, and the Archbishop of Canterbury, and the various other Christian leaders in the UK (e.g. Catholic archbishops and Cardinal/s), know what you think… Write to them. Demand that they speak up, and that they condemn the UK government’s double standard that excludes persecuted Christians whilst admitting… the Muslim persecutors.
Put them on the spot, your secular and religious leaders. Make sure that they have *no* excuse.