It’s likely that what the ever-clueless Daily Mail, the worst paper in the Western world, means by “burka” is actually a niqab, as the latter are far more common in Britain and are often referred to as burkas by people who don’t know one from the other. In any case, the perpetrator’s face was covered, which will make his or her arrest almost certainly impossible, unless she got blood on her clothing and it was spotted by someone. This case is a crisp illustration of why such clothing should be banned in Western countries: it makes it far too easy to commit crimes and get away with them.
“Police are hunting a Burka-wearing woman ‘with a blade in her bag’ after a teenager was stabbed to death with a screwdriver and knife outside a student halls of residence,” by Abe Hawken, Mailonline, December 2, 2016:
Murder squad detectives are today hunting a Burka-clad woman who is believed to have had a knife in her bag after a teenager was stabbed to death outside a university.
The terrified woman, who had a cut to her hand, ran into a nearby Costa coffee shop screaming for help after the man was attacked with a screwdriver and knife.
A coffee shop worker today claimed she saw a knife in the woman’s bag following the tragic incident outside the University of the Arts in Acton, west London.
The victim, an 18-year old man, was attacked in the street outside a hall of residence just yards from the Costa coffee in Victoria Road on Thursday night.
Police today attended the scene outside the university after a man in his 20s was stabbed
Today detectives appealed for the woman to come forward.
The Costa worker, who did not want to be named, claims to have seen a knife in the woman’s bag before she left the coffee shop and got in a car.
She said: ‘She ran into the kitchen and she was shaken up and asking for help.
‘I took her into the seating area and I saw something sharp in her bag, I’m sure it was a knife. She also had a cut on her right hand.
‘She then went into the toilet for a while before coming out and getting into a car. I think she was a Muslim because she was wearing a burka.’…

cs says
Ok, now this one could not even been an Islamic thing, but someone using the costume to commit a crime, BAN THE BURQA NOW.
gravenimage says
Stabbing a random Infidel kid to death? I’ll go out on a limb here, and say probably and Islamic thing…
ECAW says
Graven – does no one here, from Robert Spencer, through to yourself, feel the need to read beyond the headlines?
1. Where did you get the idea it was an infidel kid? All we know about the victim was that he had dark hair and a beard.
2. Neither the police nor the Mail are suggesting that the woman was the killer. Robert Spencer jumped to that conclusion.
3. The Mail, although admittedly clueless about Islam, were only reporting what a witness said about a burqa.
4.Although the woman allegedly had “something sharp” in her bag it wasn’t the murder weapon firstly because it wasn’t bloodstained (if the witness noticed it was sharp they surely would have noticed that) and secondly because there were enough potential murder weapons at the scene (a bloodstained screwdriver and a kitchen knife).
5.The woman had a cut to her right hand. It doesn’t mean she wasn’t the killer but all we know for sure about her is that she was on the receiving end of violence.
6. The report actually states that the victim was murdered by a “thug”.
Michael Copeland says
“It looked like it was targeted attack and the guy who did it was completely alone and ran off.”
The suspect fled the scene before police arrived.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2311192/university-of-arts-london-north-acton-stabbing-student-dead/
Michael Copeland says
A pub manager who works nearby told the Standard: “They were pushing and shoving each other and then the guy stabbed him and ran off.
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/north-acton-stabbing-young-man-viciously-stabbed-to-death-outside-university-halls-was-undergraduate-a3410446.html
ECAW says
Thanks for the facts, Michael.
Byzantium1683 says
Ordinarily Spencer is good at reading beyond the headlines. In any case, if she is not the murderer, I think the point about it being hard to find a niqabed woman is still valid. Considering they are looking for her, at the very least to get more info on the event.
ECAW says
I agree with you there, and think of the identity parade.
gravenimage says
ECAW wrote:
Graven – does no one here, from Robert Spencer, through to yourself, feel the need to read beyond the headlines?
1. Where did you get the idea it was an infidel kid? All we know about the victim was that he had dark hair and a beard.
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Muslims do slaughter each other, as well. It is not certain that the victim was a Kuffar.
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2. Neither the police nor the Mail are suggesting that the woman was the killer. Robert Spencer jumped to that conclusion.
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There is also the report from the witness that the woman in the Burqa (or Niqab) had a knife. I am not saying that she has been tried and convicted.
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3. The Mail, although admittedly clueless about Islam, were only reporting what a witness said about a burqa.
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That’s true–it might have been a Niqab, a Darth Vader mask, or almost anything. In fact, there is no absolute proof that the coffee shop worker herself was not responsible for the attack. Certainly, Infidels might accuse Muslims of doing bad things when it is not true.
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4.Although the woman allegedly had “something sharp” in her bag it wasn’t the murder weapon firstly because it wasn’t bloodstained (if the witness noticed it was sharp they surely would have noticed that) and secondly because there were enough potential murder weapons at the scene (a bloodstained screwdriver and a kitchen knife).
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Again, no one has convicted this woman–or even found her. Since the victim was attacked with two sharp objects, it is of interest if someone shows up with a cut hand and a third sharp object.
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5.The woman had a cut to her right hand. It doesn’t mean she wasn’t the killer but all we know for sure about her is that she was on the receiving end of violence.
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Again, they are searching for her. No one has convicted her of this crime.
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6. The report actually states that the victim was murdered by a “thug”.
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Unless someone is killed in self-defense–and there is no reason to think that was the case here, given the reported speed and savagery of the attack–I don’t believe it is unjust to characterize the killer as a “thug”. Not everyone may agree, of course.
ECAW says
graven – you yourself tried and convicted the woman in the burqa when you referred to her as “this murderous bitch”. So did Robert Spencer with his headline “UK: Police hunting for veiled woman who stabbed teenager to death”. I see the headline has since been changed, merely suggesting her guilt.
Nor do I consider it unjust to characterise the killer as a thug. My point was that, in Britain at least, the word thug would always be understood as an exclusively male descriptor therefore it wasn’t this woman.
Jihad Watch is taking on the colouring of its increasingly favoured sources, the Mail and the Express, producing headlines more concerned to provoke outrage than accurately report the facts…and commenters are happy to oblige.
Peggy says
How do you know that what is in the MSM has not been reported in such a way as not to incriminate a Muslim?
We all know that the media is not about telling us the truth when Muslims are involved. How do we know that there was no blood on the knife? Was the knife examined? Even if there was no visible blood on the knife because it might have been wiped it could still have been used to kill.
Bottom line, when there is a Muslim involved it’s almost always them who did it.
ECAW says
Sure, let’s just make it up to suit our expectations. Evidence…what’s that?
vicki says
Quite possibly a Muslim on Muslim crime, a honor killing. The woman the intended tatget, the young man trying to protect her.
This is a good reason even Muslism would want to ban the buhrka.
Anyone can don a burkha and go on a killing spree!!!
A Harris USA says
viki, not only they can they go on a killing spree, but board planes, and get welfare with out proving a thing. This crap of letting Muslims run a muck in our society, and commit murder, terror, and what ever else Islam encourages!! Not only ban the burka ban the bitches who wear them!!
The UK is just another European country that will not except the facts. This will cost them more innocent lives, and that is the just the facts. Until the UK once again becomes the UK and Arabia North, more horrific events will occur.
Champ says
“BAN THE BURQA NOW”
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Hear, hear!
Voytek Gagalka says
Good luck with that, when it is considered so highly “Islamophobic” even to try to unveil any potential suspect. So for “equality” sake, I guess that UK police will be obliged to suspect also all non-Muslim (and thus unveiled) women, too.
Angemon says
Was the victim a Jew?
cs says
That part of the city is not really a Jewish area.
Angemon says
I asked because the crime was outside a University, and the victim was college-aged.
Phil Copson says
Hard to say – the article – as quoted here – refers to the victim as being a teenager, as being 18, and as being in his 20s.
I suspect that journalists – like lawyers – deliberately introduce errors, so that they can run the same items again under “new facts have emerged” headings, to get more mileage.
Sassy says
It could be a Muslim-on-Muslim crime. I have a feeling it is a family-related issue.
gravenimage says
Muslims have been instructed to slaughter Infidels through knife attacks, and have been doing just that in Israel and in Europe.
It happens, but few “Honor Killings” involve women murdering men.
Muslimahs murdering “filthy Infidels” is another matter, though.
somehistory says
So the *woman* who ran into the coffee shop asking for help and shaking, is the same *woman* who stabbed the young man to death?
She had a cut. If the police find her blood on him…which happens sometimes with stabbing someone and the hand slides down on the blade…DNA will be available for writing out a warrant for arrest.
Then all they would need to do is the *right* thing…but won’t because the moslims and their associates who defend every move they make and every step they take…and take samples from every woman in that area…to begin. If that didn’t yield a positive…widen the area for taking samples.
Charles says
The whiteness said:”I think it was a Muslim “?????
If your head is fully covered by a muslim “Head Sack”? Who/what the fudge ELSE could it be????
BANN THE HEAD SACK, YOU IDIOTS!
A man with an AK-47, and a full, bushy black beard could be under all that burlap!
Mark says
It’s the fear of being labeled an Islamaphobe. She did not want her name to be released even for suggesting that it might be a Muslim.
Westman says
And why are they sure it was a woman and not a “female impersonator” utilizing some “Monte Python Flying Circus” skills?
Believe it or not, banks have been robbed by men wearing female Muslim garb. Here is a listing of crimes already committed while wearing these convenient costumes: https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Hijab_and_Crime
This Muslim “uniform” presents a risk to society. At the minimum, covered faces should be outlawed in public to assure identification.
crotalus says
Worse than The Guardian? I’ll take your word for it.
Robert Spencer says
Yes, worse than the Guardian. The Guardian is clearly a pro-jihad propaganda sheet. The Daily Mail gives the appearance of being something different. It covers jihad activity better than anyone, but then ignores and denies its motivating ideology as relentlessly as does the Guardian, and relentlessly smears and defames those who stand against the jihad actions that it reports.
gravenimage says
UK: Police hunting for veiled woman who stabbed teenager to death
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Poor kid. Good luck finding this murderous b*tch.
Jihadifukar says
In Rochesterstan, Minnesotapotamia we have Regina Mustafa as our assigned spreader of islam.
She teaches us about the blessings of islame and helps the kuffar of our city to submit to islam.
Please check out Regina Mustafa’s beautiful work at https://www.cidimn.org/about.html
jewdog says
How to get away with murder:
1) Disguise yourself as a Muslim, hiding your face.
2) Kill victim
3) Flee to a secret location where you change your clothes
4) In case of later capture, deny it was you
5) In case of immediate capture, say you were defending yourself from a hate crime.
mgoldberg says
And why didn’t anyone prevent the lady in the burqa from leaving? Why did people just stand around? or whatever they did, without getting a license plate number?
How hard is it to use a chair to prevent the lady from leaving until the police arrive?
What the heck were the witnesses doing…. ??
Mark says
It might have been seen as Islamaphobic!!!
vladkoval says
Good video from Memri – for those who didn’t see:
99% of prostitutes in Egypt wear Hijab!
https://www.memri.org/tv/egyptian-journalist-calls-women-remove-veil-99-egyptian-whores-wear-it
vladkoval says
https://www.memri.org/tv/egyptian-journalist-calls-women-remove-veil-99-egyptian-whores-wear-it
don vito says
transmoslem?
Will Richards says
“The victim, an 18-year old man, was attacked in the street outside a hall of residence just yards from the Costa coffee in Victoria Road on Thursday night.
Police today attended the scene outside the university after a man in his 20s was stabbed”
I am confused…which of these two lines from this report is correct?
Morag says
Conflicting reports of his age, or just a sloppy/drunk police press officer.
Here’s another account, where the police say he is 20, but a fellow student says he is 19.
Notably, this one doesn’t ID the woman as the attacker, more as a victim too. Honour killing?
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2311192/university-of-arts-london-north-acton-stabbing-student-dead/
Carly says
It could have been a man hiding under the costume.
shoehorn says
‘I think she was a Muslim because she was wearing a burka.’…
plus, she had a knife in her bag
Alien Republican says
I’ve seen her in Zurich.
R Russell says
Why is the Daily Mail maligned? Several times a week it exposes Muslim crimes in various parts of the UK – crimes not reported in other UK media.
Another point. How do they know it was a w0man?
Will Richards says
Good questions R Russell! The Daily Mail, like every tabloid newspaper, prints erroneous stories, but it also prints stories we should know about, that the broadsheets tend to avoid or gloss over.
Jack Diamond says
It prints lots of jihad related stories but it resolutely editorializes against these crimes having an ideological basis in Islam. This includes the heavy censoring of the comments section.
The Nice jihad-killer, the Daily Mail “exclusive” quickly reported, was “not a Muslim” because his wife’s cousin said “he drank alcohol, ate pork and took drugs he never prayed or attended a mosque, and hit his wife.” With Hasna Ait Boulahcen, the cousin of the Paris attack leader who was blown up along with a suicide-bomber during a police raid, the Daily Mail was quick to quote family saying she was a party girl with no interest in Islam or the Qur’an. This is an MO of the Daily Mail.
Reporting about the burkini ban in France, “A right-wing French mayor has vowed to continue with the burkini ban despite France’s top court ruling the restriction is illegal…In an inflammatory statement, Cogolin {sic>actually Mayor of Cogolin Marc Etienne Lansade<} warned: ‘If you don’t want to live the way we do, don’t come.’" Note, the "right-wing" and "inflammatory" labels about saying something so unthinkable (to the Daily Mail) as if you don't want to live the way we do don't come here.
As to this stabbing story, I find it odd someone with a knife would also bother using a screwdriver, unless there were two people doing the stabbings. The pub manager (Evening Standard article) says two men were arguing, one stabbed the other and ran off, but the other descriptions of the scene indicate the man was stabbed many times, and in the face– with either knife or screwdriver.
Screwdrivers and kitchen knives, of course, have been the weapons of choice in the Muslim stabbing attacks in Israel. Along with a woman in a niqab with blood on her hand who was either a witness or accomplice, why would we not suspect Islam having a (bloody) hand in this until it is proven otherwise?
It also points to the public menace inherent in allowing Muslims (women or men disguised as) to hide their faces.
newtsalad says
You’d do well not to knock the Daily Mail. There are few enough papers in the Western World that raise awareness of issues such as you champion.
For you to make the statement you did above, makes me fearful that actually, you’re clueless, and speaking of things you know little about.
You’ve done yourself an immense dis service alienating Daily Mail readers such as myself.
Robert Spencer says
What makes the Daily Mail so bad is that it covers jihad activity better than anyone, but then ignores and denies its motivating ideology as relentlessly as does the Guardian, and relentlessly smears and defames those who stand against the jihad actions that it reports.
Johan elzinga says
At least in the Netherlands the burqa and the Niqab are banned. A fine of about 400 euro for wearing it in public. Amsterdam police seems to ignore the ban, a good enough reason to put the whole city under direct rule.
Creole Gumbo says
How do they even know it was a woman?
Sam says
Well looks typical white extremist man/woman disguised in the religion of peace garment to give a bad name to this wonderful, very misunderstood cult.
Marty says
Not sure the Daily Mail is totally clueless.
But it is certainly afraid of mohamedanism.
It has run a leaked report by UK “Cohesion Czar”
— what a reflection that we need one.
Said report includes the fact Muslims in some parts of the country are so cut
off from the rest of society that they believe the majority of Britons share
their vile ideology.
The major review by the Government’s integration tsar Dame Louise Casey
has found that thousands of Muslims live in enclaves with their own housing estates,
schools and television channels.
Some rarely, if ever, leave their ghettos, and believe that Britain is a Muslim country
in which up to three-quarters of the population follow Islam, according to sources who
have seen the report.
It’s called multiculturalism.
It worked adequately , but unpleasantly in apartheid South Africa.
In the UK it is stirring up social unrest & what worries me is that some innocent
Hindus or secular Pakistanis are going to suffer for the crimes of muslims.
R
steve says
I agree with Mr. Spencer on all points except his view of The Daily Mail.. It is the ONLY news organ with balls in the spineless U.K. Concerning the Burka Niqab debate may I suggest we Kufr refer to it as the SHROUD..
quota raven says
off topic:
Hello, Robert Spencer – Thank you so much for the work you do. I’ve been an enthusiastic subscriber and commentor and contributor for ten years.
Just heard on radio news that Bo Bergdahl has asked Obama to pardon him for desertion from the US Army in Afghanistan and joining the Taliban. A pardon would save him from having to stand trial in April.
I’d love to see a report about this in JW. As I only heard this news on Oregon Public Radio, not on ABC or any other major media, most people will not learn about this until the pardon is actually granted. Which I am sure Obama will do, as to deny a pardon would be the first act he has performed that is not in furtherance of his Islamist agenda.
Again, heartfelt thanks for JW. It’s so important in our dangerous, bizarro world.
Cheers!
quota raven
quota raven says
Sorry to put this suggestion in a comment, but I could not get the cursor to work in your official “contact” form, not even when I logged in. Hope this gets your attention. Cheers!qr
gravenimage says
Here’s that disgusting story, Quota:
“Bowe Bergdahl Asks Obama For Pardon Before Trump Takes Office”
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bowe-bergdahl-obama-pardon_us_58433d32e4b09e21702f0796
I can send it in to JW if you’d like–I haven’t had any technical problems with the Contact box (not so far, at least).
quota raven says
Thank you, Graven! I really just wanted to suggest coverage of this matter to RS and his colleagues, but can’t get a cursor to work in the “contact” form. If you can, I’d be most appreciative if you could do it for me.
Cheers!
quota raven
quota raven says
Graven – thanks, too, for the article about SERGEANT Bowe Bergdahl from HuffPo. I looked it up, and it seems he’s had a couple of “automatic”:promotions.
Cheers!
quota raven
Tom Thumb says
The Daily Mail is the worst newspaper in the world? When did THEY surpass he Guardian?
Martin says
Jihad Watch and the Daily Mail may have jumped the gun on this one.
Other news sources mention an altercation (fight) between two men.
It appears a ‘Burka-wearing woman’ is being sought as a witness, rather than a criminal.
I don’t think the following quote from an onlooker justifies the title given to this article by Jihad Watch:
”I took her into the seating area and I saw something sharp in her bag, I’m sure it was a knife. She also had a cut on her right hand.’
There’s a long leap from that to the title of this Jihad Watch article: ‘Police hunting for veiled woman who stabbed teenager to death.’
There’s plenty wrong with Islam and Muslims. We don’t need to over-egg the problem!
bobm says
the female of this “species”.. of alien … is just as dangerous as the male .. she rules from the shadows.. and her tongue is sharp as her blade.. do not take her for a complete victim… that would make the one doing so …a complete fool.
steve brown says
Anytime I see a Muslim woman dressed in a black bag I look for a way out of any possible terror situation that might unfold. I don’t trust em..
HCHARRY says
YOU SURE CAN HIDE A LOT UNDER THOSE TENTS.
marc says
please avoid the all caps in your posts, looks like your shouting
dumbledoresarmy says
*The* take-home from this is that any form of the Islamic female slave-rag or sharia badge that covers and conceals the *face*, should be BANNED forthwith in all infidel lands; and the ban rigorously enforced.
Because CCTV is useless if either a perp or a witness is unable to be identified because their face is hidden… masked.
I read the article over at the Mail.
And the vast, vast majority of Comments honed right in on this basic point: that the Islamic female face-coverings ought to be BANNED.
People should keep copies of reports like this, in which the task of law enforcement is made so much more difficult by the inability to identify a key person on the scene (whether perp or witness), and keep them up their sleeve, for easy reference when writing to politicians to *demand* a burqa-and-niqab ban.
Cretius says
More evidence of the true face of Islam. Again a non-believer is the victim and not the murderous bitch in question.