Of course. Why would it be terror-related? The Islamic State issued this call in September 2014:
So O muwahhid, do not let this battle pass you by wherever you may be. You must strike the soldiers, patrons, and troops of the tawaghit. Strike their police, security, and intelligence members, as well as their treacherous agents. Destroy their beds. Embitter their lives for them and busy them with themselves. If you can kill a disbelieving American or European — especially the spiteful and filthy French — or an Australian, or a Canadian, or any other disbeliever from the disbelievers waging war, including the citizens of the countries that entered into a coalition against the Islamic State, then rely upon Allah, and kill him in any manner or way however it may be….If you are not able to find an IED or a bullet, then single out the disbelieving American, Frenchman, or any of their allies. Smash his head with a rock, or slaughter him with a knife, or run him over with your car, or throw him down from a high place, or choke him, or poison him….
And we have recently seen this at Ohio State, in Nice, in Berlin, in Israel, and elsewhere.
“BREAKING: Terror Attack in Australia? Vehicle Plows into Pedestrians in Melbourne,” by Patrick Poole, PJ Media, January 19, 2017
Breaking news out of Melbourne, Australia that at least three people have died after a vehicle plowed into a group of pedestrians near a shopping mall.
According to one witness, the driver was screaming, “Allahu Akhbar, Allahu Akhbar, Allahu Akhbar!”…
Witnesses describe the scene:
“There was a man hanging out of the window screaming” – teen describes driver as thin, dark hair, appeared Middle Eastern. @theheraldsun pic.twitter.com/Y6JWW3djp1
— Andrea Hamblin (@AndieHamblin) January 20, 2017
This witness claims the driver was screaming, “Allahu Akhbar, Allahu Akhbar, Allahu Akhbar!”
This witness, Stefano, describes the driver screaming at people on the street.@theheraldsun pic.twitter.com/vlJYw6h0iW
— Andrea Hamblin (@AndieHamblin) January 20, 2017
That notwithstanding, Melbourne police are already dismissing any possible terror connection:
#BREAKING @VictoriaPolice say they believe incident was related to a stabbing earlier today and is not terror-related
— Sky News Australia (@SkyNewsAust) January 20, 2017…

somehistory says
If it was “related” to a stabbing, then the stabbing was also terrorism.
Fools to say it is not.
Neil says
Yeah – that traitorous and unpatriotic, self-applied Dhiimmitude posture is infecting the Ozzie Government employees too.
Too myopic to view the results in Paris, Sweden and Germany and figure it all out. So sad !!!!!
laura ann says
Australia is going down same path as is Germany, France and other EU nations. Males are sissified cowards, will not protect their future, country or family. Didn’t keep their guns. Nihilism and apathy rule these countries being invaded, until the caliphate is fully established and ruling over these losers. They will still do nothing when families are separated and men are lined up to be executed. Women and girls will be taken as Muslim whores. I wonder if the EU leaders are getting paid big bucks from the Saudi gov. to turn their countries over to Islamic rule. Merkel has land in Uruguay she will flee to.
JDS says
Yes it appears that political correctness and stupidity have overcome all the so called Christian oriented nations in the world…….how sad ….God is shedding tears.
Ned Kelly says
shared on my facebook, the video of witness describing event..
Luke Frohling says
Wow. I don’t know many Australian men that would not stand against a clear and definite threat. I’ve fought shoulder to shoulder with other Aussie’s (when I lived in the Blue Mountains during bushfire season) when there we were surrounded by flames and none of us left until there was nothing but wet ashes around us.
I think the biggest problem is not the “sissification” (which actually made me laugh more not get offended) or lack of guns (Seriously? Guns ARE for sissies- people with no conviction and no upper-body strength) but rather a insipid “invasion” where freedom is slowly seeped away in such a slow way we won’t realise it until it’s all gone.
If it was done clearly and overtly you’d get push back but if its done in smaller degrees then it would be dangerous.
I think that is the real danger. Invasion through lack of understanding of the whole picture.
Peggy says
So knowing all that why do you think we keep voting for the same politicians?
Time to change.
shropster says
He was just another “lone” terrorist like the “lone” gunman who killed JFK.
Islam the religion of killers says
of course it was terrorism, I’m sure the person getting stabbed was terrified ,,,
of course the people killed and plowed into were terrified ….
Dave says
You don’t understand.
Alhah huakbar rally means “I lost the breaks”
And jihad means internal struggle.
This definitely wasn’t internal, therefore not johad.
Jack says
Great moniker. I’m convinced the Luciferians are using these brutish maniacs to bring about their one world government or the so-called New World Order, it can be proven that they believe that world chaos must be going on before the masses will accept a world government, what better way to create a chaotic world than by using brain-washed, brain dead Vermin who adheres to an evil ideology. There have been several well known people dead and alive who have said similar words who may or may not be Satanists: “Today Americans would resent having U.N troops on their streets but with the right Crisis they will demand it”
Soldier of the Living God says
They are
Hogster Hunter says
Spot on.
Jihadi John says
Don’t Muslims block traffic in European cities during prayer time every day?
(Take a hint, guys, take a hint!)
Jack says
Yep. Europe as a whole has hundreds of no-go zones where the police don’t go and anyone else with any sense who isn’t a Muslim wouldn’t go either, these zones are increasing to, I suppose one could rob a bank and cross the border into the no go zone and be safe. One town in Germany where rapes have become common, so instead of blaming the Vermin that looks similar to humans the local powers are suggesting that the women should dress differently, how’s that for more evidence that Liberalism is a “Mental Disorder” not that we need more evidence.
chris says
“hundreds of no-go zones”
only?
Only France has 751 ZUS (Zones urbaines sensibles) – according to french gov website: http://sig.ville.gouv.fr/Atlas/ZUS/
Robert says
You send in the army you must enforce law and order no choice
xave says
They do not block traffic. No body blocks traffic except during rush hour
Jade says
It was a greek guy who was not a muslim
Robert Spencer says
And you know he was not a Muslim because of what evidence?
Berto says
I heard he was yelling “Let’s make America great again”. Definitely a Muslim.
Kat says
He was Greek orthodox .. Whole family is Greek orthodox ..he was on ice and a schizophrenic who stabbed his brither in the face and then kiddnapped a female family friend who escapes just prior to him losing it and going on a killing spree ..
Robert Spencer says
If he was Greek Orthodox, why did he say he was “Islamic” on Facebook?
somehistory says
Hope you are keeping up. He says he is moslim. That doesn’t mean he isn’t Greek. Keep up.
Peggy says
He converted to Islam. Keep up.
xave says
The greek person was yelling evil things about poor homeless people. Know the correct info. The driver is a greek person called Dimitrious Gargasoulas . https://thewest.com.au/news/australia/pedestrians-hurt-in-melbourne-mall-ng-b88361556z
Sophia says
Thanks, Xave, for trying to correct this nonsense. The driver was not a Muslim. It’s horribly disrespectful that this website is trying to twist yesterday’s tragedy to make some kind of Islamophobic point.
Robert Spencer says
You discount and video evidence and eyewitness testimony on what grounds? That the facts strike you as “Islamophobic”?
gravenimage says
Yes–Greek Orthodox adherents always scream “Allahu Akbar!” and identify as Islamic…sarc/off
Robert Neville says
Au contraire. Via The Daily Mail today – – “Greek Islamic Kurdish – lit the bible on fire – recently converted to Islam – he converted to Muslim and changed very quickly.” http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4139828/The-online-rants-Melbourne-CBD-car-attacker.html
Why would anyone sane EVER trust a politician and police “nothing to do with” press conference again?
Stewart Davies says
It is absurd to propose anything other than that this tragedy is Islamic terrorism by default. The ethnic, cultural and religious background of the perpetrator is irrelevant. There has been jihadist slaughter of innocent bystanders in the name of Allah using vehicles as weapons in the U.S., Germany, France and Israel. The evil, drug-addled sociopathic perpetrator of this latest outrage in Melbourne drew his ‘inspiration’ from these Islamic terrorist outrages in other countries.
Supposing there was such a thing as, shall we say, characteristic Catholic terrorism, which was imitated by some deranged specimen who was not, himself, Catholic. Do you really suppose, for one little second, that the authorities and the marxstream media would fall over themselves to assure us that, “this has nothing to do with Catholicism”? Come on, they would be screaming the connection from the proverbial rooftops! The naivete, ignorance and denial of the glaringly obvious contributes in no small measure to exacerbating this problem
somehistory says
You should not label nonsense things of which you know not.
Peggy says
So no Greek converts to Islam? How about Cat Stevens?
Concerned Aussie says
Actually what we know is the following from his own facebook page.
He is a self proclaimed Greek Islamic Kurd
He has a violent hatred of homosexuals
He calls unbelievers dogs
He made numerous violent religious rants in the weeks leading up to his killing spree
Other Facts leading up to the Rampage:
He stabbed his homosexual brother hours before killing 5 people.
He burned a Bible and threw it in the face of an older man whom he then stole the red car from.
At least one witness has confirmed that he yelled Allah Akbar out the car window before proceeding to kill 5 people with his car
Draw your own conclusions as to if this is terrorism or not.
Marty says
Exactly.
The “authorities” are saying this man has a history of violence &
was known to them.
In other words, a typical mohammedan convert.
The mainstream media keep fobbing us off with statements such as
“mentally unstable”, ” not terrorist related” etc.
This brute is a mainstream soldier of islam.
End of.
Jim says
That is true the opposers here want to be in denial the He is not a Muslim convert when the evidence says he is . Even his actions proves what he did is a type of evil thing that Muslims are doing world wide. . Very lucky he wasn’t driving a big truck . Only Muslim jihadists do these type of things . It’s clear they are denying it . The damage has been done . Islam has another victory killing of the infidel . So why deny it you satanists .
Mark says
He was a psycho named James “Jimmy” Gargasoulas who stabbed his own brother. That doesn’t make him an Islamic terrorist.
Robert Spencer says
It doesn’t make him not one.
W. Shelton says
So, Spencer, you just have to make an accusation, without any basis whatsoever, and we can’t challenge you, in your infinte wisdom? Yeah, right. You don’t need information or proof to accuse someone of being Muslim, but expect us to provide proof that someone you baselessly accuse is not? And you expect us to respect you? Ain’t gonna happen,dude.
Myxlplik says
W Shelton,
The guy did self proclaim as “Islamic”, and was shouting “Allah Akbar”.
Perhaps he was a crazy as Mohammed?
blackcat mendoza says
Shelton, you self-righteous idiot, Spencer has earned more respect for the grime under his fingernails than an ignorant dhimmi such as yourself could acquire in ten lifetimes of grovelling. Slither back under your rock!
He’s earned it by his selfless courage – what principles have you ever fought for with your life at stake?
Ignorant dhimmiwit fool!
Peggy says
But yelling allahu akbar as he was killing people does.
Clearly he was doing it in the name of Islam.
Peggy says
He was clearly screaming allahu akbar and they still say it’s not terror related.
Do they take us for fools?
Pork Isyummy says
Absolutely.
Lance Cleary says
Spot on
Aloha Akbar says
Fake News very quick to say ‘Not related to Terrorism”
Heeby Jabby says
Fake news readers very quick to say it as related. Original quote was deleted once he was found to be Greek.
Cornelius Bradley says
How is instructing the police not to blame the Muslim for their crimes?.
Enkidu says
You people must feel pretty dumb since the guy isn’t arabic, he’s Greek. Witnesses are notoriously unreliable and rampant reports of alahu akbar have led people astray before. Since he’s not muslim, of course police dismiss the possibility that he’s a terrorist.
Robert Spencer says
You think only Arabs can be Muslim? How ignorant and ethnocentric of you. “Witnesses are notoriously unreliable”: i.e., “I don’t want to believe this witness because he contradicts my politically correct fantasies.”
Penny says
Any nationality can be Muslim. He may be Greek and on Ice and crazy, but that is not justification for terrorising and murdering innocent people. He was heard screaming out the window of his car Allah Akbar, Allah akbar, allah akbar. The police should have had him sectioned.
Lance Cleary says
He is a Kurdish muslim
Ashley says
“Allahu Akhbar, Allahu Akhbar, Allahu Akhbar!”
_______________
I’m speechless…and this is not deemed an act of terrorism?
Revo Lution says
The Australian Government appeases TERRORISTS because they kill for PEACE.
jcd1974 says
As usual the police and politicians will cover up the Islamic connection and the media will play along.
They don’t want us infidels to learn the truth, they fear we’ll retaliate. The backlash must be prevented at all costs.
Ross Lloyd says
Police are adamant it’s not “CT” related. The guy was apparently of ‘Greek’ extraction so someone said and he stabbed his own brother beforehand. He was driving a General Motors Holden Commodore so perhaps his brother was a Ford fan like me and that is what caused the argument and sparked off his subsequent “road rage”…
The mind boggles… I pray for the dead and injured…
Carpediadem says
Someone Tweeted me that the guy was “Sam Hyde” a Zoroastrian extremist. I have no idea whether this is true.
Carpediadem says
Update – yes he was Greek, Dimitrios Gagasoulis, 26, family violence.
Attacked a man with burning Bible, involved in “stabbing incident” with his brother, stole the car, possibly stole petrol too.
Salome says
Where does this come from? I can’t find anything that identifies him. I reckon it’s more like a crystal meth incident–although perhaps he got the idea of going on a vehicular rampage from recent jihad incidents.
Carpediadem says
http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/bourke-street-mall-driver-identified-as-james-jimmy-gargasoulas-20170120-gtvs2m.html
Jim says
Correct ?
No Fear` says
If his brother was a Ford fan and he was driving a Commodore then it is totally understandable. Go the Fords!
Paulie says
Don’t be a Malaka Ross!!
He was only a half Greek Muslim, he couldn’t even rip a decent skid!!
Seriously , the cops should have rammed him outside Flinders Street Station…
Or shot him earlier in the piece ..
He’s done!!
BabeThePig says
He was only driving a Holden Commodore because he stole it from his neighbor. He threatened the neighbor with violence demanding he give him the keys. Maybe a bit of research before you go off on a tangent of untruths?
Lawrence says
Melbourne is like San Francisco and New York and London, run by the loony Left. So their response to jihadist terrorism is to deny it, as the Loony Left is wont to do.
JMB says
It is mid evening here in Sydney and I have only just seen this news, it is absolutely awful. The driver certainly looked like a Muslim, it is a Muslim inspired crime. Yes, the very left wing government of Victoria was in full denial about a terror connection so I have come straight to Jihad Watch to try and get further information.Jihad related terror or not, we certainly never had these problems prior to the Muslim influx into this country.
BabeThePig says
Melbourne is nothing like SF, NY or London. What a load of shit.
Angry Aussie says
Australia has become so soft on Islamic crime that there are those who cover it up that the police won’t call this an act of terrorism. It was only a matter of time. Salafists have grovelled in the ear of both the Prime Minister and the Opposition Leader and they continue on with the “Australia is the most successful multicultural country on earth” rubbish. What should we expect when we have the PM dutifully dancing a happy dimmi-tune to their every whim. He even hosted an Iftar at Kirribilly house, compliments of the taxpaying Aussies, with new crockery and cutlery. The Grand Mufti is the leader of the pack. He refuses to speak English, and apparently this is acceptable. Sickening. Today I am almost ashamed to call myself an Australian. Our once loved country has rapidly turned to shit. http://www.news.com.au/national/victoria/news/pedestrians-injured-as-police-chase-erratic-driver-in-melbourne-cbd/news-story/44a14994486d72e60fd7bb27f7a1bf1f
blackcat mendoza says
Ditto, and thank you!
This Malformed (Billionaire) Turdball is a disgrace to traditional Aussie (mixed) values, and I say that as a child refugee from Eastern Europe in 1950 who has identified as an Australian ever since I could think for myself. Not for any ephemeral jingoistic reasons, but purely in gratitude for, despite relative difficulties, the eventual acceptance by “real Aussies”.
My parents made no cultural demands on this country, and ensured that I was assimilated into a culture that at times they had difficulties understanding, but nevertheless made their own.
Where did those true Aussies disappear to? Their voice seems to have been drowned by the totalitarian political correctness of the Tony Joneses (MY ABC!) and other dhimmiwits, who self-righteously proclaim their unquestionable divinity from high.
Wake up Australia, or it’s Malmo for you!
Stewart Davies says
Well said, Blackcat! As for “My ABC”; or “the Anarchists Collective” as Nick cater once facetiously described it on “The Bolt Report” (before the cowardly bastards at Channel 10 canned it). And Tony Jones: I’d rather have open heart surgery than watch Q&A.
Shane Brandon says
Again the religion of peace clearly indicating they are anything but peaceful.
No mercy even for little children.Mindless, murdering criminals.
It will be interesting to hear how our politicians and the media gloss over this one.
Angry Aussie says
https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fmobile.twitter.com%2FAndieHamblin%2Fstatus%2F822292159608983552&h=ATOrqkPqS-RtAcwtavZ094I3QPdo69fz7SYowQyZ6dGv8ZXLRoQiCrVip7m17lYmfS0ZltdP2n6iip9yF3Eg73FgB0-BW5BfzyjSSdz0F2xbDWlt3yTo_cTyAsBIBfxuoCE
Kay says
Heartbreaking.
Simon says
Fake news right here. This is not refugee or Islam related. Please correct this information or get rid of this article.
Robert Spencer says
And you explain the eyewitness account that the driver was screaming “Allahu akbar” how?
BabeThePig says
Oh please. It wouldn’t be the first time eyewitnesses embellish their story for a bit of attention. I want the bastard to be a Muslim because I detest them but before anything else, I want the truth. I’m not so blinded by hate that I make up stories or believe other people don’t make up stories to suit their agenda. I’ve been watching the news on this for hours and haven’t seen an interview yet with a witness saying he was yelling out the catch cry of the Muslim who is undertaking terrorist activity. Until I see concrete evidence that he was a Muslim I won’t assume he is because I merely want it to be.
Peggy says
You probably won’t see it either. They are trying to hide Muslim crimes and chalk it up to mental illness or drug addiction.
How long is it going to take you to realize that MSM is not telling us anything?
TheBuffster says
A young man who used to live with us called a little while ago today to tell us that he was in a shop and came out to find a little girl lying on the sidewalk, shaking in terror. Just before he had left the shop the terrorist had come through yelling “Allahu akbar!” and mowing down people on the sidewalk with his car.
Our former housemate said there was a pram stuck under the car.
Of course, our friend is extremely shaken up.
When my mom and I were walking to lunch yesterday, an oncoming car made a little veer, and I felt a moment of alarm, being an Islamophobe. Then I mentioned it to my mom, and said, “You know, I think we should take little things like that seriously, keep alert, since once in a while some jihadist monster takes it into his head to ram into people with his car or truck. Mom agreed.
And today, it has actually happened here, with one of our close friends just missing being on that very sidewalk by a few seconds or minutes.
Islamophobia keeps getting less phobic all the time. Dammit.
TheBuffster says
Okay, the killer was from a Greek background with a Greek name. No mention of religion. He did burn a Bible and throw it in his neighbor’s face, and then punched the old guy and threatened to gouge out his eyes to intimidate him into giving him his car keys. It was his neighbor’s car he drove to ram into people.
Before entering the neighbors apartment, he had stabbed his brother Angelo.
We’ll see what information filters out over the next few days.
http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/bourke-street-mall-driver-identified-as-james-jimmy-gargasoulas-20170120-gtvs2m.html
dumbledoresarmy says
I’d say the Greek – i.e. ethnically Greek and non-Muslim – *background* is correct. Lots of Greeks – all of them Greek Orthodox Christian – migrated to Australia after WWII and most of them settled in Melbourne. His first name – not assumed, but I would guess, given by parents – is Dmitrios.
So: there are two possibilities after that.
Straightout insanity mixed with criminality and possibly substance abuse e.g. crystal meth.
OR – conversion to Islam (which does not of course exclude insanity, criminality and crystal meth both before and after conversion).
TheBuffster says
Yes, Dumbledoresarmy, both of those scenarios sound reasonable.
My husband was born in Melbourne to Greek immigrants who came here after WWII. He tells me that “Dmitrios” = James, so it makes sense that James “Jimmy” Gargasoulas goes by “Dimitrious Gargasoulas” on Facebook. I didn’t know that until now. 🙂
So far there’s no report of Gargansoulas having gone by any other name with a different ethnic sound.
Vice says
Know only of one ‘cult’ in this world that targets innocent civilians. I can’t fathom any other motivation for a person to act this hateful.
dumbledoresarmy says
Psychiatric illness plus the human inclination to wickedness (we do, after all, have lots of human wickedness in the world, quite apart from Islam – mass murders and despotism and slavery existed prior to the rise of Islam) plus crystal meth or some other psycho-active substance would account for it, if the perp is non-Muslim.
The one thing that can be said for certain is this: if this person is of non-Muslim ancestry and upbringing, and has *not* converted to Islam prior to carrying out the attack, then neither his parish priest nor any of his (whether nominal or practising) Greek Orthodox relatives will make any excuses for him, nor will anyone be able to adduce any directive, from the New Testament, that tells people to go out and mass-murder people in the street.
This murder spree by a randomly-bad non-Muslim *will*, however, be trotted out ad nauseam by all the apologists for Islam, every time, in future, that Muslims *obeying* their Murder Cult’s directives go on mass murder sprees. Guaranteed.
People apologising for Muslim ideologically-driven mass murder constantly trot out random Infidel psychos such as Martin Bryant, to try to ‘fudge’ the connection between the Murder Cult and the murders carried out by its active adherents.
Vice says
Well said.
I don’t think humans are ‘inclined’ to wickedness though; humans just copy from other humans, especially if a large group of humans follow the certain ‘teachings’ of a certain outdated ‘book’. I think we’re equally inclined to good, moreso in this day and age with modern western teachings (well, the teachings from the 20th century).
TheBuffster says
Eh, some non-Islamic psychopaths have done some equally horrific things or worse. Plenty of serial killers haven’t been Muslim. Charles Manson wasn’t a Muslim. Jeffrey Dahmer wasn’t a Muslim. John Wayne Gacy wasn’t a Muslim.
Maybe Jimmy Gargasoulas, the killer in the present case, had converted to Islam. Maybe not. But even if he turns out to be a convert, he was already known to be violent and a druggie. He could have been attracted to the religion because it gives a shine to evil acts against people like his family, who are probably Christians. And becoming Muslim would really piss his family off..
The person who reported Gargasoulas as yelling “Allahu akbar” out his car window was allegedly an Italian tourist. I don’t know whether anyone else reported the same thing. But it’s not impossible that the killer was yelling something like “F**K you, Motherf***ers!” and the Italian, in a traumatized state, misheard it as what he expected it to be. It’s not unusual for witnesses, under terrified stress, to make errors, especially if the error meets a logical expectation.
None of this means the guy is not a Muslim. It just means there’s another possible scenario.
As information trickles out over the next few days, we’ll undoubtedly be able to draw a solid conclusion one way or another. Somebody will know if he converted, and will probably tell.
Vice says
I agree, and happy to see comments here with substance.
Yes, mental illness, such as with serial killers, ‘overrides’ the ‘normal’ emphatic properties of the brain, which could ‘drive’ a person to do something horrific.
Guess we’ll find out, but I’m personally sick of hearing about the mentally ill and am inclined to not believe it. However, after reading more about this particular psycho, I have to admit that it doesn’t fit the ‘narrative’ of a ‘typical’ islamic attack (e.g. drugs, etc.).
TheBuffster says
Yes, I think this might be a genuine case of non-Islamically-induced mental illness.
duh swami says
There is no psychiatric diagnosis called ‘mental illness’…
somehistory says
None of the serial killers you named did what this guy…and moslim terrorists have done. The killers like Gacy, Dahmer, Bundy, all hid what they did. Most serial killers kill one at a time (a few have killed more than one at a time, but this is rare), and they do it in secret. They don’t go about calling attention to themselves as this guy did.
Serial killing and moslim terror killing are different.
And serial killers may be diagnosed as socio or psychopathic,…personality types… but they are still different than someone who suddenly goes *over the edge* and commits mass murder in public. Many serial killers have appeared *normal* to other people…Bundy and Gacy come to mind in this regard. People were shocked to find out what they had been up to.
Stewart Davies says
As we would say here in Oz; “No worries, mate! He probably thought ‘Allahu akbar” was the name of a footie team.”
John Stain says
I wish my Government stops this multicultural bullshit it’s not natural let people keep their cultures and respect that these commercials grrrr and someone please remove that disgusting lamb commercial makesme puke poor Aboriginals have to see that and Cathy Freeman if that’s you in it you should be ashamed of yourself
Ver Auger says
When will our so-called leaders emerge from their mental fog and rid our societies of this primitive menace? It would be so easy if all people of good will could unite. And I include among people of goodwill the gentle Persians I celebrated New Year’s eve with this year! They lost their country due to the fanatics who threaten us all today. I am a scientific agnostic, but if a righteous person of any truly peaceful faith would lead a prayer for a safe inauguration, and a day in Washington not marred by violence, I will say “amen”.
gretel says
As long as ppl are terrorized, it’s terror related.
Baucent says
The suspect was captured and named as 26 year old Dimitrious Gargasoulas.
Melbourne Police were desperate to snuff out any suggestion of “terrorism”. In a statement to the Press a Police spokesman twice said “this is not a CT incident”, he didn’t explain what “CT” might be.
The Melbourne-Sun newspaper published this insightful comment from the Police; “Police are unclear of the man’s motives but are certain it was not a terror event”
So they are uncertain of the man’s motives, but are certain it was not terrorism. Hmmm, are you certain about that?
Salome says
If you google ‘Victoria Police’ and ‘CT’ you get Counter Terrorism. The police have subsequently ‘translated’ the statement. Gargasoulas’ Facebook page consists of confused rants (although perhaps he should’ve been on the ‘could do something really nasty very soon’ radar as a result of some of them. He seems to have been putting himself out to be some sort of Yazidi (I’m sure the real ones would quickly disown him), but also Greek and Islamic, i.e., a confused nutter. Not exactly a mosque-attending Muslim, but likely to have been inspired by the recent incidences of vehicular jihad (so we can chalk this one up to the jihad). I reckon there’s a good dose of meth in it.
Nut job says
Huge doubt whether this is Islamist terror related, there’s not much to go on as yet. I’m aware of the usual denial tactics that authorities can employ in these situations, but there’s still not enough info to confirm or deny 100%.
This guy was well known to police, out on bail on a number of charges.
Wait and see.
Vice says
I understand your doubt and agree, but I just can’t imagine any other reason why someone would literally run over a bunch of innocent civilians. Can you?
Nut job says
Yeah, a drug called ice, mixed with other shit. That would do it.
Who knows? I think we should pray for the victims and families, especially for that kids family.
Brian says
Of course our stupid politicians and dimwited police would say not terror-related…………
Heeby Jabby says
Funny because the woman who originally posted the quote deleted it.She then said the man was Greek. Seems like her source was lying.
DingoTwitter says
twitter.com/louisvolavola/status/822353478932537344
young aussie solved it
confirmed muslim
efoc says
His name on Facebook is Dimitrious Gargasoulas for those interested.
If you check out his account, he wrote various posts during the month of January. On the 13th, he posted “Heaven and Hell IS REAL!!! WHO AGREES?” – what is interesting is his first comment under this which says: “yazdanism google it wikapeida and that is who i am i am not greek tongan i am actually greek islamic kurdish ANGEL OF CULT i promise and hold alot of answers”. So he thinks he is “greek islamic kurdish”….
He posted a lot of other weird stuff as well. These include the following:
“TODAY THE GODS HAVE GIVEN ME WISDOM AND KNOWLEDGE. THEY HAVE AWOKEN ME.. I HAVE MY ANSWERS ALSO VISION OF A FUTURE THAT IS CLOUDED THE WORK OF SATAN TO FACE ME AND FAIL OVER AND OVER AMUSES ME RATHER THAN SHAKE ME TO THE GROUND. KEEP IN MIND GOOD WILL ALWAYS PREVAIL OVER EVIL AND THAT IS EXACTLY WHATS TO COME IN THE FOLLOWING DAYS WEEKS AND SO FORTH SOMEBODY TRIED TO FUCK ME……… WELL THAT SOMEONE IS ABOUT TO FIND OUT HOW TO DO IT PROPERLY AND 1 THING ILL TAKE YOU ALL OUT JUST ME YOU NEED A ARMY TO TAKE ME AND SO FAR YOU HAVE PRESENTED HALF A ARMY ARMY OF USELESS WAIT UNTIL YOU SEE MINE! FOR ALL THOSE WHO KNOW ME…. KNOW IM A GENUINE GOOD SEXY YOUNG GUY. AND THAT IVE EXPERIENCED DAYS AND NIGHTS I THOUGHT ID NEVER EXPERIENCE IN MY LIFE SINCE I GOT TO MELBOURNE WELL GUESS WHAT…… IVE BEEN BLESSED…. AND NOW YOUR FUCKED”
“scientology is just science and some how some dog has intergrated a religion that is against GOD in all means is the work of satan i hold the truth and the proof and anyone who believes in either must try to come to understand this is not acceptable and shall be delt with in a seriouse manner SCIENTOLOGY IS ASSOCIATIONS OF ILLUMINATI THE DOGS WITCH ALSO ASSOCIATE WITH FREE MASON WITCH REALLY WILL DO ANYTHING IN THE POWER TO DOMINATE THE WORLD AND TAKE ON THE NEW WORLD ORDER AND THAT WOMEN WILL RUN THE WORLD ITS UNBELIEVABLE BUT ITS TRUE AND THIS IS BECAUSE GODS LAWS ARE OVER WRITTEN BY HUMAN LAWS”
“I DECLARE WAR ON TYRANNY TODAY YOU DOGS WILL HAVE THE OPTION TO EITHER BELIEVE IN ME AND HIS POSITIVE ENERGY HE OFFERS AND STAY FAITHFUL TO ME OR SERVE THE ONE WHO ENSLAVES YOU AT HIS FEET I OFFER FREEDOM NO WORK NO BILLS JUST THAT WE ALL KEEP FAITH AND BELIEVE IN THE ONE GOD THE ONE HIGHER BEING BEING FOR THE GOOD AND PROTECT THE ENERGY THAT HE GIVES WITH YOUR HEART GOD BLESS EVERYONE IN THE WORLD IT IS ABOUT TO CHANGE XOXO”
efoc says
And another post:
“I know exactly how to take you DOGS down the power of knowing has revealed and i shall have GODS laws re-instated”
dumbledoresarmy says
Sounds like he was going completely off the planet.
efoc says
He really was DDA. Just looking at his page confirms that.
It appears quite deliberate what he carried out today.
TheBuffster says
He was known as a violent druggie.
It sounds like drug-induced psychosis to me. Just a tossed salad of weird, wild ideas grabbed from everywhere and jumbled around in a disordered, raging mind.
efoc says
I’m inclined to go with that explanation. An absolute lunatic this guy was, unhinged by drugs.
Baucent says
Sounds like a complete wacko lunatic.
f c king says
I do not understand why islamic terrorist can’t be used anymore.
David M says
Some good film of it here, he was doing doughnuts in his car at first, then he headed for a pedestrian mall, with the police right behind. As stated, no mention of Islam anywhere in the MSM.
Pity we don’t have the death penalty in Australia anymore for people like him.
http://www.smh.com.au/victoria/melbourne-cbd-car-rampage-a-city-terrorised-by-an-act-of-madness-20170120-gtvnli.html
eur says
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFHnqAATHNE
In Spain a few days ago .. allahu akbar. Senegalese, Muslim, mentally ill . Nothing to do with… you know.. isolated case.
scherado says
I just saw a news item on a cable channel that goes by the name acronym OAN and they show, REPEATEDLY, the guy “doing donuts” in his car with half his body out the window–right side, it being Australia–and he’s OBVIOUSLY shouting something!!!! I would NOT know what he was shouting–though I surely would have been left to wonder!–if I didn’t read this article by Mr. Spencer!
This “news” channel has served notice upon me that THEY can’t BE TRUSTED.
A. Hellene says
http://www.pof.com/viewprofile.aspx?profile_id=106083280
He’s half Tongan, half Greek.
On his facebook, the Guy one minute is wearing a Christian Cross in a picture, the next says he’s Moslem, the next say’s he is in fact God. So considering he was a serious druggy, it depends what he felt he was, on the day.
I think it’s honestly a case of a mentally ill psychotic person. If you look at his facebook profile, he rants weird stuff in caps lock, that makes no sense. He also has a history of drug use.
Robert Spencer says
A mentally ill psychotic person could also be an Islamic jihadist. It’s not an either/or.
andra says
In German MSM there is any connection to terror denied.
Amy says
How dumb do you ignorant, Islamophobic morons feel right now? Lmao go crawl into a hole and don’t ever breed, please!
Aren’t you going to turn on Greeks now?
Idiots!
Robert Spencer says
You think Greeks can’t convert to Islam? Is this some law for Greeks?
A. Hellene says
He’s not Greek.
He’s part Tongan, part Chinese, part Greek.
http://www.pof.com/viewprofile…
His username on this website here is ”TonganWog”.
He’s mum’s Tongan, and according to a Family member of his on facebook, (who I won’t post their profile for obvious reasons), they are part Chinese aswell.
Hardly the pure blooded so called ”Greek”.
DoTheResearch says
Well, he describes himself as “greek islamic kurdish” (sic).
I’m pretty sure that self association with Islam makes him Muslim.
Then again, in this world of Muslim apologists and progressive thinkers I could be wrong.
Now where did I put my Newspeak dictionary.
Here’s the link; http://newobserveronline.com/melbourne-car-ramming-terrorist-muslim-kurd/
You can keep on laughing, or try thinking and researching before jumping to the defence of a brutal killer that just murdered and maimed innocents. Name calling (dumb, ignorant morons) is the bottom rung and is no basis for argument when faced with facts.
duh swami says
Allahu Akbar means ‘God bless you’,,,we know that because John McCain said so.. So when the jjihadi shouts Allahu Akbar while killing people it is not terrorism, but an act of mercy…If you don’t believe that, ask Pope Francis, he knows…
Perry Bee says
It looks like our government has been really busy blocking anything that shows this scum bag is a mozzie, his face book account and other sites that indicated he was a convert has been blocked already. I don’t know about others but this sort of protection of this cult over our rights and safety is an act of treason!
Perry Bee says
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mo2P-7uNFWY
Susan Gibbs says
+ Perry Bee Yes, information was being deleted fast (through Google, no matter the browser), audio removed (YouTube), and posts being removed (Twitter). People from outside Australia were also saying Aussies were being ‘blocked’ from seeing webpage links and references, and that comments to Aussies on YouTube were also being censored. To go to this level of censorship to protect the ‘official narrative’ is very concerning. The guy said in his own words that he was a “greek islamic kurdish ANGEL OF CULT” (he had converted to Islam). He posted a map reference of Melbourne with the message “Thinking. About what to do with them lol”. There was much, much more. And this stuff was published hours to weeks before he did this terrible thing. Your Police in Melbourne watched this guy do ‘wheelies’ literally on the doorstep of their Police Station for an extraordinary length of time…at what point did they decide NOT to shoot out the tires on his vehicle BEFORE he had a chance to run down so many people? There are so many questions.
W. Shelton says
Robert Spencer is nothing more than a lying asshole, out to stoke as much paranoia as he can in order to sell more books and make a killing off of other people’s fear. * smh *
Z says
Cool story, bros.
Now that it turned out that he is a Greek-Australian, will you rectify your uninformed and politically motivated article?
Robert Spencer says
A Greek Australian can’t convert to Islam? Is that a law? An eyewitness said he was screaming “Allahu akbar.” And you know this is false because…?
W. Shelton says
One witness, claiming to have heard an incoherent psychopath yelling something in a language that, he, the witness, presumably doesn’t speak? And you think that’s reliable because?
I’ve seen people claim to hear someone say something in another language which they did not speak, but I did. Guess what? They’re usually wrong. Spencer, you need a better, more reliable source than that. Oh, wait, I forgot. You don’t care about the truth as long as you can use something to stir up more hatred so you can sell more books. My bad…
W. Shelton says
Of course they won’t rectify it, Z. These crackheads will never admit they’re wrong.
mgoldberg says
When will ALL the media be held accountable for the deaths and destruction visited upon ‘all others’ by the religion of pieces?? This needs to happen and the monopoly of thought and ownership needs to be broken. When people go into buildings, or restaurants, or drive upon roads, or go to anywhere, nowhere do people expect to have a buddhist, a christian, a hindu, a jew, blow themselves up, or drive a vehicle into them or the building…. and if one of these did so do such, their respective religions would question where and how they got such a psychopathic hatred, and would find who taught or developed this evil.
But… with Islam, muslims, and their leaders will always deny responsibility, and deflect that it is due to previous Islamophobia, or previous bias etc etc etc. Never is there any self reflection, by Islam, and especially by media. And the police have been co-opted to keep their mouths shut and make no contribution except to detain and arrest.
Ver Auger says
I just read a long article in the NY Times about this incident, written after a 4th victim died. It did not mention the jihad nature of the attack, nor the witnesses reports of what the driver was screaming. I am horrified that this form of censorship has come to America. The NY Times has lost all credibility, and become a threat to the public safety. Thank you, Mr. Spencer, you are a fearless guardian of the truth.
James Stamulis says
No it is not terror related it’s just that Inbred Muslims are just really bad drivers. The governments that cover for these inbred monkeys are just as bad as the terrorists if not worse!
Colin says
Until a generation ago, Australians – well clear of heir European origins – were known for a being a no nonsense people who told him like they were. Sadly, PC has reached their shores and turned their brains to mush.
Angemon says
Breaking news: Victoria Police shoots itself on the foot!
Musa Mijinyawa says
In the heart of every one of you is a disease and God Has increased the disease and gracious is your punishment because of the lies you invent.
The Scriptures said :
Seeing they see not and hearing they hear not and they will never understand.
An anonymous speech blindly receiving so much negative comments to make it look like the truth.
May God deliver you all.
Dylan White says
You’re all fucking idiots, One so called “witness” got interviewed and and said this shit now everyone believes it despite all the other witnesses and authority’s saying the perpetrator was not of middle eastern desent. Watch and read more than one interview before jumping on the bandwagon with all the other close minded idiots that blame everything going wrong in this world on muslims.
Perry Bee says
Good on ya MuHAMmad, now bugger off you sound like a shill and part of the problem with your open arm government lefty way of thinking! How many more innocent people have to die, Islam is an evil cult, you don’t see that then you are part of the problem.
Mark A says
“Victoria Police say they believe incident was related to a stabbing earlier today and is not terror-related…”
Before driving into these pedestrians, did this guy stab someone while screaming “Allahu Akbar”?
Not terror-related? The Victoria Police, like so many other other law enforcement agencies and politicians, are totally clueless – probably willfully clueless – about Islam.
Chris Edwards says
Workplace violence.
mortimer says
“Allahu akbar” has NOTHING to do with an Islamic war cry … the police said so.
YOU DID NOT SEE OR HEAR WHAT YOU OBSERVED. THE PUBLIC IS HALLUCINATING … again.
Ric says
I suspected it was an Islamic-terrorist attack on innocent civilians; however, the MSM, firstly, reported very little and secondly, they obviously avoided mentioning it was an Islamic attack. This goes hand in hand with the leftist-progressive media prefers to mollycoddle and not to offend the Islamist scourge.
I am certain the loathsome media, a scourge, in its own right, has the koran and prayer mat at the ready.
Robert Neville says
Why would anyone sane EVER trust a politician and police “nothing to do with” press conference again? Key phrases via The Daily Mail today – “Greek Islamic Kurdish – lit the bible on fire – recently converted to Islam – he converted to Muslim and changed very quickly.” http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4139828/The-online-rants-Melbourne-CBD-car-attacker.html
Sam says
Not all terrorists are Muslims but most terrorists are Muslims.
The question is how do we fight Islam. I would say Support Trump and Robert Spencer. Stop arguing with each other and talk (try at least) to liberal friends.
We conservatives can not afford to fight among ourselves when Islam is killing infidels and muslims daily.
The only country which has a president who says Islamic Terror will be eliminated is USA. Thank you God!
disgusted says
Another criminal they refused to deport. Great pity a Politican or Judge or Lawyers family were not injured. He got bail because he was a Muslim. They are trying to hide his identity. He is in public housing and all his family should be deported. As usual they are saying it was not a Lone Wolf attack but bringing in Mental Illness the same as the hush hush Commonwealth Bank lone wolf attack at Springvale Victoria.
My Shari'a Moor says
Wotta mentally-fetid FREEEEQ’ that 1 is!
Upon investigation, it’s been shown that 99.999% of all vehicular mass-attacks upon helpless pedestrians occurring in the Free West are perpetrated by MOSLEMS…of course!
So, when these attacks occur, it’s safe to say it’s a JIHADI’S attempt to obtain his 72 raisins…uhhhh, “virgins”…
Right?
N.B. : ‘dda’ ROX!
Deb Macleod says
So typcal of police covering up the truth so even if he was wearing a burka and holding the koran in one hand screaming out ALLAHU AKBAR the cops would still say it was not a terrorist act….. unbelievable & stupid because the pubic will find out the truth soon.
Notsaying says
I don’t get it why the Government and Media keep on saying these “Lone Wolves” aren’t terrorists? The same thing happened with the 2016 Townsville terrorist attack from Snail Ayed.
W. Shelton says
Dylann Roof was a terrorist. Oh wait, my bad. If forgot. He’s a white Christian. That makes him a lone wolf. You were saying?
Peggy says
Just sickening how our media tries to cover up when it comes to Muslims.
http://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2017/01/multiple-reports-car-sped-through-bourke-st-mall-melb-after-friday-prayers.html
disgusted says
Quite agree. They hushed up about the Springvale Bank attack. The media gagged. This will happen with this criminal as well. Sad part is it never happens to a Lawyers Family or Politican and things would change.
Sanjay in Melbourne says
The driver was not shouting “Allah” or anything like that. He was instead shouting for the police to stop chasing him and swearing at pedestrians while doing circles at the intersection with his car.
Unlike your readers here, not only do I live in Melbourne and I was actually there at the intersection on my way to the tennis !
His facebook page mentions Islamic but in the same sentence also mentions Yazdanism which is the religion of the Kurds before Islam. Clearly he is very confused.
His dating profile does not mention “Islam” at all. Instead he describes himself as “non-religious”.
There may be many terrorists who are also Islamic out there but Dimitrious ‘Jimmy’ Gargasoulas is not one of them.
This website needs to just let this story go.
Simon says
There’s nothing to fight for anymore. We have more laws than people, everything’s illegal. The politicians are taking pension money from the generation that gave us freedom while dining 5 star at our expense.
We don’t stand up for anyone or anything, fuks me what you think you have here.
disgusted says
Seems his mother is getting money out of this. The whole family should be deported. We saw photos of her sitting with all the beer cans around her. In public housing. They are all on pensions. People have sympathy I do not know why. it was a lone wolf terror attack. Nothing will happen he will play the mental health act and seeing he sang out in Muslim court and Police will feel sorry for him.