The Q Society (of which Robert Spencer is the “First Lifetime Member At Large”) is described in the article below as “anti-Islam,” and is cast as a reactionary entity overreacting to jihad terror attacks. But the challenge of political Islam is much greater than the ever-present threat of jihad terror attacks. The incursion of Islamic supremacists in Western countries has been alarming, to say the least, and the Q Society is trying to alert people to that.
It is baffling that Western societies have continued to tolerate the rampant crime committed by Muslim migrants; as well as their shocking sex assaults; threats to free speech; threats of jihad violence; hatred spewed against the West from many mosques; powerful mainstream unindicted co-conspirator lobbies that scream “Islamophobia” at every turn; hate-filled al-Quds day rallies held brazenly in open view with no consequences; and BDS campaigns of hate on campuses, driven by Hamas offshoot groups. The West is crippled by a collective denial of reality, fostered by many corrupt leaders who are fixated upon vote-counting rather than responsible leadership. Yet the Muslim migrant crisis is a mere foreshadowing of things to come unless Westerners wake up.
The civilization jihad to conquer the West, which the Muslim Brotherhood and other groups are pursuing, is well in progress. “Australia’s newest political party’s manifesto states that ‘Islam is not merely a religion, it is a totalitarian ideology with global aspirations.’” There are Muslims in the West who wish to practice their faith in private like people of other faiths, but political Islam that has spread unchecked, with Western authorities not daring to speak out about it or strategize against it, for fear of being beaten down as “racists” and “Islamophobes.” In contrast, the Q Society declares:
“With Islam, the problem grows exponentially…the main thing is to reduce the numbers, not let it grow any further and take the status out of it in our so-called multicultural society.”
If these words are not heeded in regard to political Islam, Australia will eventually cease to be a multicultural society at all, or non-Muslim cultures will subsist only in a state of subjugation under Islamic law.
“’It’s is not merely a religion’ Secret party vowing to ‘reduce Islam’ soars in popularity”, by Rebecca Perring, Express, January 6, 2017:
The mysterious Q Society is now gaining ground and support for the “Islam-critical Movement” across Australia and has decided to embrace the limelight.
It is a far cry from the days the group insisted members sign a nondisclosure agreement if they want to attend one of its meetings.
But now the anti-Islam party is publicly promoting a $150-a-head (£89) fundraising dinner in Sydney and Melbourne, which will feature speeches from well-known local councillors.
Leaders say the secretive group is gathering momentum across the pond in the wake of multiple Islamist terror attacks……
“If you look back 10 years, you won’t read about these issues. Everything was fantastic, everyone wanted a falafel or kebab.
“With Islam, the problem grows exponentially. We’re probably 10 years behind Britain and Europe but we’re catching up fast.
“The main thing is to reduce the numbers, not let it grow any further and take the status out of it in our so-called multicultural society.”
Australia’s newest political party’s manifesto states that “Islam is not merely a religion, it is a totalitarian ideology with global aspirations”.
The party is affiliated with the Australian Liberty Alliance and global organisation Stop The Islamisation of Nations (SION), which brought right-wing Dutch politician Geert Wilders to speak in Australia.
Q Society has 1,000 registered members across Australia who donate sums of anything from $5 (£3) to $5,000 (£3,000).
But the organisation’s popularity hasn’t gone without receiving harsh criticism.
Keysar Trad, from the Islamic Friendship Association of Australia, said Q Society spreads “disturbing baseless Islamophobia” but said some subscribed to their message because of a lack of good information about Islam.
However Mr Schumann argues “Islamophobia” is a bogus concept.
He told news.com.au: “It’s basic slander, the usual stuff to shut people up.
“Call them a Nazi, a bigot. I don’t think it’s racist. It’s concern about one particular ideology.
“You probably don’t remember how it used to be when you boarded an aircraft, it was like getting on a train or a tram. The change is certainly not because of crazy Hindus or Jews. Terror works.”…

duh swami says
Reducing Islam…I like the old Indian term, ‘rubbing out’ better…It’s a little more permanent…
Walter Sieruk says
All of this ,somewhat, even brings to mind the idea of what some sincere , but uninformed, people call the need to “reform Islam.” Otherwise called ,by some,the need to have “a reformation within Islam.”
To such an idea the following might be of some interest to a few people.
On the topic of a reformation within Islam , a very different yet possible valid and true view on this had bee explain by the Christian, Nabeel Qureshi ,who was in the past was a Muslim .He wrote in his book which is entitled ANSWERING JIHAD wrote about the suggestion “that Islam needs a reformation .What they may not realize is that radical Islam is the Islamic reformation. This might sound shocking, but consider: Just as the Protestant Reformation was an attempt to raze centuries of Catholic tradition and return to the canonical text, so radical Islam is an attempt to raze centuries of traditions of various schools of Islamic thought and return to the canonical text of the Quran and Muhammad’s life. This desire to return to the original form of Islam can be seen not only in the words of Sayyid Qutb, but also in his method. He focused almost entirely on references to the Quran. it is true also of the Muslim Brotherhood and ISIS today, whose publications and proclamations are punctuated by references to the Quran and hadith literature. Radical Muslim organizations are explicit in their aim to reform Islam.” page 75. Further on pages 79,80 the author makes his case clear by writing that “Radical Islam is the Islamic reformation . The endeavor to modernize Islam and make it relevant to the twenty -first century is called progressive Islam. Progressive Muslim thought leaders, though few in number and limited in influence are present and are working to recreate Islam’s religious framework from within. Indeed, that is what it would take for Islam to become devoted to peace – not reformation but reimagination. “
VRWC member77 says
Unfortunately Nabeel starts out with a major disadvantage. Many have come out (including those on the left) to say because he was an Ahmadi, he’s not a “real” Muslim.
Most Sunni Muslims look on the claim Ahmadiyyas make regarding Mirza Ghulam Ahmad being the 2nd coming of Jesus, to be as heretical as Ali having divinity status among Shias. As you’ve pointed out, Islam is having its reformation in the form of the Islamic State.
As a side note I wish the best for Nabeel and his family as he pursues his personal battle with cancer.
Jon Sobieski says
… not reformation but reimagination. Not gonna happen.
TH says
This guy has been brainwashed regarding the Protestant Reformation. One of the bitter fruits of the Protestant Reformation were the horrible civil wars which ensued in France. Germany Holland with the intervention of Sweeden and other places, not to mention the peasants´ which was brutally quelled by the nobles egged on by Luther himself. In Holland, it began with the burning of 80 Catholic churches in one night. Millions were killed. Does he want millions of Muslims killing one another? They are already killing one another. We cannot involve ourselves in their internal affairs. What we can do is to close the borders to their invasion.
Don McKellar says
If you want to see exponential growth happen, then just you wait and see what happens when Trump’s administration starts speaking openly and publicly as to what Islam stands for and what is in those texts and broadcasts it across the world. Once he’s in office, all that honestly and truthful criticism will be stunning. It’s already driving the left-fascist media insane. Once he gets in office, there will be no means to stop the flood of truth, and the mainstream media as it exists today will either be forced to break their truth embargo about Islam or be swept away. Then you’re going to see exponential growth — by groups like Q — all over the world. And that’s when Islam is beaten back and quarantined and the advanced, Civilized World can start to return to normal.
ECAW says
Optimistic, but let’s hope you’re right.
Jon Sobieski says
me too. That would be great.
citycat says
The flood of truth is no anti-dote to the flood of Muslim sperm.
That’s where the exponential growth is and will be.
Islam is grinning with contemptuous mirth, and laughing at the idea that Islam can be anything but Islam.
Islam is Islam is Islam.
The Qur’an is the Qur’an, and while the Qur’an is the Qur’an, Islam will be Islam.
So it would seem, today.
Ron Raw says
Most morally sound people will agree, even only moderately Islamic literate, that the truth has to be told about their agenda, of “hijra”, the taking of the host Nation by immigration (using all the tools of jihad) and the media is the last place to find it. We must all work hard to return our world to normal, certainly stop it from sliding backwards 1400 years , and facing the genocide of humanity. For the record “Q” society is not a political party and the dinner mentioned is to fight a “freedom of speech” case (basically sharia law, where the criticising of Islam is forbidden, in this case Halal taxes/fees being forced upon Australians)
Gloria from New Jersey says
Thank you, Ron Raw, for that good information concisly packed in to your statement. We are putting Trump into office with the hope that his fearless nature will enable the USA (us citizens) to fight off ISIS aggressions (specifically Sharia law) on both a local and national level. Our thoughts and prayers are with the people of Australia who are similarily fighting the good fight.
StacyGirl says
An honest discussion of who Muhammad was, what he did, and why his followers imitate him today is long overdue. The future belongs to those who stand up to the fake, bloody prophet of Islam and his army of savages.
ECAW says
Where did anyone get the idea that the Q Society is a political party?
Angry Aussie says
ALA is the political party, not Q Society. The fundraiser dinners are to cover the cost of court fees against the defamation cases faced by Kirrily Smith and Debbie Robinson at the hands of the Halal/Taqiya Master, El Mouely. This article appeared online on news.com.au yesterday, and also featured a statement where Ralph Schumann spoke negatively about Pauline Hanson.
There’s no mention of ALA having run in the last election in Queensland and the Senate, and bombing out badly. If only they dropped their elitist attitude and embraced One Nation. Too mich division in the Australian conservative vote will likely hand the next election to Labor. Then we can ensure APEX and Islam will flourish even more.
PJG says
The journalist is all at sea. Doesn’t understand that Q is an organisation devoted since 2010 to spreading awareness about Islam while the ALA is a political party recently begun by members of Q.
dumbledoresarmy says
Yes.
The main upside of this article is that, one hopes, curious members of the public who are already a bit uneasy about Islam will google “Q Society” … and perhaps also google up “Mark Durie” … and begin a journey of discovery.
It’s called publicity.
Bench Sung Park says
Exactly.
And obviously there’s no way anyone is going to vote for anything as sinister-sounding as The Q Society’.
It is too oblique and people have too many negative associations with the big Q in many contexts.
Quit
Queer
Queue
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They should spend some donation money on a marketing consultant.
And don’t rename it as The QQQ Society.
Phil says
Maybe the Russians can hack their elections too to help them out. Ha….
I hope that the Germans, French and the Dutch can all pull of these revolutions as we in America did.
Karen says
“There are Muslims in the West who wish to practice their faith in private like people of other faiths, but political Islam that has spread unchecked,….”
I believe that Ms. Williams has made the best of all possible distinctions, and much more useful than the moderate vs. radical debate. While I dislike Islam, I don’t dislike Muslims who wish to practice their religion, and welcome them. But I deeply fear Muslims who wish to practice political Islam, whether through Sharia, terror, civilization jihad, and other forms of Islamism.
Pong says
Karen
Dislike islam, but not moslems sounds like I dislike nazzism, but not nazzis.
How do you know who is not going to practice political islam before you invite them?
How do you know that their children will not be jihadi?
There is no other form of islam then political islam. Jihad and sharia are the obligations of every moslem.
You sound like you believe there is another form of islam, which is cooked up by western leaders and has nothing to do with reality.
You think by saying something like you did, you do it from a high moral ground?
You are mistaken. All it shows is simplicity of thought.
sog says
Of all the Muslims I’ve dealt with personally, all were VERY good people as far as I could measure. I think Islam is grossly evil though.
Let’s say you’re a Muslim walking down a remote path on a cool day. A rock calls out to you: “Come and see: there’s a cold naked Jew hiding behind me!” What do you do? Do your give him your cloak, or do you strike his neck?
Giving him your cloak is the answer written on every good man’s heart. Good is as old as the Koran held by Allah since the beginning of time. Why then is “strike his neck the answer indicated by the Koran? It has value as an answer in that it contrasts with that written on a good man’s heart.
The way to “fixing” the evil perscriptions in Islam is to cause as much Cognitive dissonance as possible among the good people whom are Muslim but have no other choice but to behave or ignore as their current schools of thought indicate. We can contrast good behavior with the evil dictates of the Koran and Hadiths on a case by case basis and force cognitive dissonance on those protecting such evil prescriptions.
I don’t believe the Islam can survive the information age, the age of the Internet. the downside is how long it will take, and the convulsions the world must suffer as Islam dies.
Guest says
Agreed, the muslims I personally know have been nice people, and were involved in music (ie ‘haram’ if they were strict muslims). They had the good hearts and somehow deceived themselves into believing that their faith supported their good hearts. I don’t have contact with them these days, but the cognitive dissonance must be growing every time a jihadist strikes.
Will they finally find a faith that really does support their good hearts?
Guest says
Btw, Sog, I think your analysis is one of the best I’ve ever read: the cognitive dissonance between what is written in a good person’s heart and what is written in the koran.
Karen says
Pong, sorry if I came across as a pompous moralist – not my intention! I was speaking from the ideal of Americans practicing their various faiths, or not, and openly in the public square, but without the entanglements of politics or the intention of imposition or supremacy. (A bit of a fine point, but one that has keep religious conflict relatively non-existent in the US.) I believe most Muslims has lived this way in the US and that political Islam in the US is relatively new; whether this classic stance can continue in the age of global rejuvenated political Islam is unknown to me. Definitely Sharia needs to be stopped at the border, and inside the border. (Exception being its use inside the mosque.) As for distinguishing Muslims from their religious beliefs, I think this is possible. It’s quite easy for me to see Mohamad for who he was, since I have no emotional stake in the matter. An ‘ordinary’ Muslim, who cherishes his faith and what he thinks it stands for has probably avoided the pain of a full examination of the facts.
Greyhound Fancier says
How to separate Islam and the sharia? The sharia is the heart of Islam. You’d have to persuade the Muslims to not attempt to impose the sharia on any non-Muslims. In that case, the only ones harmed by the sharia would be the Muslims.
Is it acceptable to have a minority in the civilized world that adheres to a legal code that oppresses women? practices polygamy? marries prepubescent girls? Would Americans be OK with Muslimas being deprived of the rights all other Americans take for granted?
Is that constitutional?
Karen says
Regarding your 2nd paragraph…absolutely not, none of these things are acceptable, which is why I despise Sharia.
The point I was trying to make (very badly) was that in the New World we were able to separate politics from religion, a major achievement. I think it’s possible for a Muslm to do the same. Any Muslim who adheres to sharia needs to be barred from immigration. Permanently.
Peggy says
I believe that the only reason the were peaceful is because they were few in numbers and didn’t have much backup. PC as we have it now is relatively new as well.
DAI says
DUMMY. You still get Islam and Sharia.
Susette says
Non-moslems have two choices: either embrace islam as a bonafide, peaceful religion, or be labeled an “islamophobe”. “Islamophobia” is defined in the dictionary as “hatred or fear of Muslims or of their politics or culture.” It is a specious term created by moslems to castigate those of us who question or debate islam, and has nothing to do with hatred or fear of moslems, as people, but everything to do with a realistic, world-view hatred or fear of their politics or culture. Moslems are completely intolerant of any discussion of islam when we non-moslems can support the death, evil, hatred and intolerance of islam with direct quotes from their koran! Instead, they close off discussion, and denigrate us as “islamophobes.” Do we have Christianphobia? Jewphobia? Hindiphobia? Buddhaphobia? NO! Because there is nothing to fear in any other religion…NOTHING! I’m personally sick and tired of the term “Islamophobia” and believe it needs to be banished from our lexicon. Until then, no open, honest discussion about the truth of islam can occur.
ECAW says
I couldn’t believe such an idiotic definition of Islamophobia existed in a dictionary so I looked it up, and there it was, “hatred or fear of Muslims or of their politics or culture.”:
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/islamophobia
What they are talking about is obviously “Muslimphobia”. Astonishing that people who pick over words for a living should be unaware of the difference. If anything, I think I incline towards Muslimphobia myself since a body of teachings cannot itself drive a truck or hold a knife.
IQ al Rassooli says
Hi ECAW
Islamophobia is a neologism used to refer to an IRRATIONAL fear or prejudice towards Muslims and the religion of Islam.
The term has achieved a degree of linguistic and political acceptance which is utterly at odds with facts and reality.
Let us firstly deal with the FACTS:
1 Muslims are the only group on the face of planet Earth who show their anger, their destructiveness, their Hatemongering and their Warmongering on TV, in Print, in their Educational System and in their Speech against ALL other belief systems be they Christian, Buddhist, Jewish, Hindu or Animist
2 Muslims are the only group who show their manifestations of Hate and Anger while holding their holy book the Quran in one hand and Guns, grenade launchers, swords and daggers with the other.
3 Muslims are the only group who while demonstrating their hatred and anger shout and call upon the name of their god with their TERROR VERSE of ” Allahu Akbar”
4 Muslims are the only group who in the “name of Allah” slaughter UNARMED and innocent civilians by the sword, suicide bombings, beheading, blowing up planes, buses, trains etc etc
5 Of all the acts of terror and AGGRESSION in the world today, Muhammadan Muslims have the pride of being the number one in at least 145 countries in the world on FOUR continents.
6 Muslim law, called Sharia’, discriminates unreservedly against the following:
a) All females (even be they the followers of Muhammad
b) All Unbelievers/ Infidels/ Kuffar such as Christians, Buddhists, Hindus, Jews etc
c) All Homosexuals
d) All sects of Muhammadan Muslims who do not follow their methods
7 Muslims burn and destroy the holy places of other religious groups such as Churches, Buddhist temples, Hindu shrines and synagogues without remorse.
8 Muslims show nothing but Utter Contempt for the beliefs, property and lives of all those who do not believe as they do
9 Muslims massacre, mutilate, rape and destroy the lives and holy places of other Muhammadan Muslims who do not follow the same path.
10 Muslims in the Western Democracies, while hiding behind their Freedoms of Speech and Belief, declare in public, in the media that they intend to turn the Christian Democracies into replicas of their Depraved belief systems
11 Most Muslims in the world – the so called ‘Silent Majority’ – RARELY demonstrate against these inhumane, depraved and sickening acts and behaviour conducted daily in their name and in the name of ‘Islam’.
12 One can understand and sympathize with those Muslims who live under Islamic governments and live in fear of being in the opposition, but those who live in our Democracies have no excuse whatsoever in showing their disapproval, disgust and anger at those who are allegedly bringing Muhammadan Islam in Disrepute.
13 It is one of the great ironies of history that it was Muhammad himself who said :
“SILENCE MEANS CONSENT”, hence the silence of the followers of Muhammad in the West does mean that they CONSENT to what others are committing in their name and in the name of Muhammadan Islam.
In fact and in reality, they have no choice since those that the media erroneously call ‘Islamic Radicals’ are actually the truest believers in the faith of Muhammadan Islam since they are only following what the Quran itself commands them to do in hundreds upon hundreds of verses:
To force into Conversion, to Hate, to War, to Subjugate, to Slaughter, to Plunder, to Rape and to Enslave ALL those human beings who do not believe as they do. That is the remaining 80% of Humanity.
If all the above items which any and all sane human beings are watching on TV, reading in the newspapers or listening to on the Radio DO NOT JUSTIFY being AFRAID of ISLAM, what will?
Hence Fearing Islam & Muslims is totally RATIONAL while NOT fearing Islam & Muslims would be utterly IRRATIONAL
Therefore Islamophobia is an Oxymoron; a contradiction of terms
Any challengers?
IQ al Rassooli
Kafir & Proud!
freedom says
Just caught that ball you punted IQ.
So—-
Not a distinct challenge , as such — just a slightly different tact.
I’ve mentioned a couple of times on this site that the word “Islamophobia” is a complete misnomer when applied to most people. Like myself, most people are appalled and sickened by the never ending savagery of violent jihad, rather than cowered into fear and submission. A far more accurate and appropriate word would be ” Islamodium” —- inferring a profound disgust for violent jihad. This word also takes out the main element that the Jihidis would love to instill in us —–ie —- FEAR, Well to hell with that, they will never instill fear in me and other like minded individuals, the numbers of which I hazard to guess are the vast majority.
So whenever I learn of another Jihad slaughter I’m not more fearful —— I’m more disgusted.
So — though there may be some poor souls that suffer from Islamophobia , most would have a sense of — Jihad revulsion — ie —- Islamodium
ECAW says
All true, IQ.
davej says
Spot on.
When the media refers to groups like this as “anti-Islam” many assume that this refers to some preexisting prejudice or generalized xenophobia. They have been conditioned to think this way because they are uninformed about the overall ideology and have been mislead by the ROP all religions are equal propaganda.
A more accurate descriptor would be “defense against Islamic incursion”. The Islamic Friendship Association may find this disturbing but it is very far from “baseless”.
BTW, how can they call it a “Friendship Association” when the Quran specifically forbids any friendship or association with non-believers? Just more taqiyya!
IQ al Rassooli says
Dear Australian KUFFAR, please always remember that as Infidels/ Kuffar/ None Muslims, it is VITAL that you realize that one does not need more than two brain cells of logic to understand Muslims & Islam in a nutshell~
Since every Muslim is Sharia compliant, every Muslim cannot ever be a Law abiding LOYAL citizen in ANY none Muslim nation because these nations do not submit to Allah’s Sharia.
Hence every Muslim is the enemy of every none Muslim Infidel/ Kafir on planet Earth (80% of current of none Muslim humanity)
Every Muslim is a potential Mass Murderer the instant he/ she decides that he/she is NOT Sharia compliant enough. (Not ALL Muslims are Terrorists but ALL Terrorists against Infidels are MUSLIMS)
Every Muslim is therefore a hair trigger Time Bomb primed to go off
Only in the WARPED imagination of leftists can one find Moderate Militant Radical or Extremist Muslims because in reality Muslims are Muslims just as Nazis are Nazis and no one ever addressed Nazis as Moderate Militant Radical or Extremist
Therefore, because Sharia prohibits them, no Muslim can ever be LOYAL to the laws or the peoples who are Infidels/ Kuffar
All other explanations are superfluous and redundant
It is time for every decent Australian to unshackle yourselves from the DRACONIAN Political Correctness imposed upon you by your Criminally Negligent elites and go out in the streets and declare these TRUTHS in public and always counter attack the apologists for Muslims and Islam with the FACTS above to utterly discredit them in public
IQ al Rassooli
Kafir & Proud!
http://www.alrassooli.com
ECAW says
IQ – Was every Muslim in Iraq sharia compliant when you were growing up there? I don’t think Sadam Hussein and his Baath Party paid too much attention to it. And what of those Muslims who were ignorant of it or just paid lip service while getting on with their lives as best they could? Were there none?
And was every Muslim there the enemy of every non-Muslim? I know the core of Islam preaches enmity for all non-believers but if every Muslim follows the teachings of their faith 100% then they are very different from the followers of the faith I grew up amongst.
IQ al Rassooli says
ECAW
You are absolutely correct on all counts
Leaders such as Saddam, Bashar, Qaddafi, Mubarak were ‘secular’ (NOT Sharia compliant) because they ruled their peoples with an iron dictatorial fist based on NATIONALISM not religion
That is why Christian communities under them were NOT mistreated (in fact more preferred for LOYALTY than Muslims)
Even then, Christians had to tread carefully because of lurking Sharia as now is demonstrated in Egypt where Muslims are terrorizing, murdering, raping and destroying Christians and properties with impunity
NO none Muslim/ Kafir is SAFE under Muslims!
Muslims should NEVER be allowed to reside in ANY none Muslim state for the very simple reason that everyone on JW knows: Muslims will NEVER be LOYAL citizens among Kuffar! Full Stop!
IQ al Rassooli
Kafir & Proud!
ECAW says
IQ – You’ve got me scratching my head now. If you agree with all my points then surely you must accept that your claims that “every Muslim is Sharia compliant” and “every Muslim is the enemy of every non-Muslim Infidel/ Kafir on planet Earth” are incorrect.
I fully agree that every Muslim is POTENTIALLY the enemy of every non-Muslim and all it takes is for the Muslim to become sharia compliant (ie all of sharia) or to take the example of Mohammed seriously.
IQ al Rassooli says
ECAW
You do NOT need to scratch your head
Since it is IMPOSSIBLE to differentiate between a would be mass murdering Muslim and one who is NOT then I stand by my assertion the EVERY Muslim is a Potential Mass Murderer and hence must not be allowed as citizens in our INFIDEL democracies
Everything I state is SIMPLICITY itself. Muslims are the ENEMIES of every NONE Muslim on the planet and trying to split hairs between so called ‘moderate’ from Jihadi Muslims cannot ever be sustained in reality
There will be in 2017 EXTREME reaction between the NATIVE Europeans and the INVDING Muslims. Let us wait and see
IQ al Rassooli
Kafir & Proud!
ECAW says
IQ – You have shifted your ground.
I agree with you that every Muslim is a potential mass-murderer and that it is impossible to tell the actual future mass-murderer from the others, therefore we should allow no more Muslim immigration. That is not the point at issue.
Nor do I believe in “moderate Muslims” but I do believe in ignorant, hypocritical or uninterested or nominal Muslims. This is not splitting hairs but an attempt to assess the forces arrayed against us.
I agree that 2017 will see the ramping up of tensions in Europe and very possibly the start of a shooting war (shooting from both sides that is). I believe our leaders have brought us to a position where the probability of a peaceful outcome is almost negligible and we therefore face either civil war or subjugation.
Best wishes to you in your work spreading awareness of the danger.
shoehorn says
Only the media pay any attention to Keysar Trad; he gained a $50K multicultural grant to form the Islamic Friendship Association of Australia, which basically consists of his family (wives and kids).
Bench Sung Park says
Keyser Trad, the Anjem Choudary of Downunder.
Came from Lebanon.
Was (is?) on Government Welfare for many years (he had to leave work because of some “medical condition”).
But, untidy unshaven, like some guy hawking pamphlets on the street he got a “position” as spokesman for the Lebanese/Australian community.
Obscenely, he has recently, several times, been talking in public about his need for another wife.
Why ask us? Why not go home and discuss it with his other wife (wives).
Or maybe he could crowdsource the New-Wife project and save the taxpayer a heap of money.
davej says
In the comparison to Nazis, yes all members of the Nazi Party were therefore Nazis, but certainly all Germans were not. Probably the majority were pressured and deceived to go along with the program out of fear of the consequences of resistance. Which has some parallels with both Muslims and the current population of the West.
At their peak only 10% of Germans were members of the Nazi party and it was for adults, not children. However I think Islamists are the greater danger because they are born into it, indoctrinated at an early age and originate in countries that are often 98-99% Muslim. So there is absolutely no opposition or secular viewpoint in these societies. It is a very homogeneous and monolithic population that chants “Death to America” in complete unison.
citycat says
Practice their faith in private?
With their sex slaves?
Or like black magicians?
Stop it growing?
Like cancer is stopped?
Reduce the numbers? To what? I hear the Muslims like the power of zero.
Multicultural? Islam will wipe out all other cultures like it is doing right now.
It is all or nothing with Islam, no inbetween, no compromize,
NO THING that is not of Islam.
Anything otherwise is trickery towards total wipe out of ALL other religions and atheists.
Infidel from Down Under says
My own concerns about Islam is not due to any lack of information as claimed by Keysar Trad I can assure you. The exact opposite in fact
In fact the more I learn and find out about Islam , my contempt for it just grows even further
dumbledoresarmy says
Yes. exactly. The more one finds out about it – and its history – the more horrified one becomes.
Hugh Fitzgerald put it very powerfully, years and years ago, in a discussion of just this subject.
He had written – in a posting in a jihadwatch thread from 2006 (which you will not, alas, right now, be able to call up from the archives; you will get the parent article, but not the associated Comments which have not ‘rolled over’ as jihadwatch moved from platform to platform) about the way in which “the keenest and most aware” of the citizenry in the western world were now engaged in study, of their own volition, and no thanks to the Islamo-corrupted academy.
To which another poster responded (this was way back in 2006):
“Yes Hugh – we can read all that [Hugh’s ‘History Boys’ essay, listing the sources and the scholars]. Or we can merely get one casual email post in our overflowing email boxes saying –
“Hey! Did you know that the prophet Muhammad (whom Muslims worship as the most perfect man) was actually a mass-murderer? A thief? A rapist? A slave trader? A pedophile?”
“And we “rubes” can think to our ignorant “rube” selves – no bloody way! And then do about 2 hours of homework (1 solid day max for the skeptical) and confirm to ourselves – oh hell yes effing way!
“And in several short hours (OK- a an entire day for the skeptical) put 2 and 2 together – what the Koran says + what the likes of UBL and Hamas and Hezbollah say + the massive obfuscation coming from the likes of CAIR and Tariq Ramadan and the MSA say (a 5 minute lesson in the meaning of taqiyya takes care of that ambiguity) + what a rapid perusal of world history would confirm (OK – to be fair – give that a whole extra day) – and one readily goes from no way in hell! to Holy s**t! This is for real!
“It ain’t rocket science. And seriously, infidels (both westerners and easterners) ought not to insult their dignity and intelligence by pretending it is.
“Old Hans Christian Anderson will no doubt live on as the wisest sage the west has ever known where Islam is concerned. A fairy tale ostensibly designed for children yes.
“But once one realizes how really childlike we all actually are (look at the huge influence of Hollywood for example which is merely high school writ large in many ways), one won’t be so inclined to scoff at such a fairy tale.
“Which is my blunt way of saying that by all means, those so inclined should read Schacht, and Hurgronje and Tisdall [that is: old-fashioned and accurate infidel scholars – and critics – of Islam – dda].
“But also to point out that some of us won’t. Some of us would just as soon look at the noses on the end of our faces and have no doubt whatsoever about what Islam is all about.
“In the end, one need only look at Islam’s source – Muhammad – and confirm just a few facts about the man himself (and those facts are easily confirmed for those who are willing to look) – and all the rest just falls easily into place.
“Posted by: Caroline at July 25, 2006 9:48 PM”.
To which ‘Hugh’ responded, and the response is well worth reading, because ‘Hugh’ is, to judge from his many comments and articles here and elsewhere, a *formidably* erudite man, a genuine scholar:
“You are right.
“Whatever manages to supply enough of the truth, and to allow one to convey that truth convincingly to others so they begin to comprehend the nature of the belief-system (try not to call it a “religion”) of Islam, surely does not require all kinds of study.
“**But such study, when one has the time, merely deepens one’s horrified convictions.** [my emphasis – dda].
“Ordinarily, as you read more about something, you more and more see the thing in its complexity, and shades of gray, and are more and more hesitant to pass judgment.
[There speaks Hugh, the scholar, from a lifetime of experience – dda]
“**With Islam, the more you find out about what it teaches, the more you find out about the example of Muhammad, the more you find out about what Islam does to its adherents, the more you find out about Jihad in time and space, the more you find out about the fate of non-Muslims under Muslim rule, the more horrified you become.** [my emphasis – dda].
“But it isn’t all necessary.
“Sometimes a single thing will do it.
“Here’s the single thing about Iran that often does it: the fact that when he came to power, one of Khomeini’s very first acts (perhaps the first) was to lower the marriageable age of girls to nine.
“Tell that to people you know. And then tell them why.” [i.e. tell them about mohammed and aisha – dda]
‘Posted by: Hugh at July 25, 2006 10:41 PM’.
To repeat: Hugh on the difference between most deepened study of a subject, and study of Islam:
“Ordinarily, as you read more about something, you more and more see the thing in its complexity, and shades of gray, and are more and more hesitant to pass judgment.
”
“**With Islam, the more you find out about what it teaches, the more you find out about the example of Muhammad, the more you find out about what Islam does to its adherents, the more you find out about Jihad in time and space, the more you find out about the fate of non-Muslims under Muslim rule, the more horrified you become.**”.
I myself would liken this process of finding out more about Islam, to the experience of going down, and down, and down through the deepening circles of Hell, in Dante’s ‘Inferno’.
mortimer says
The Q Society is doing a lot of things that are effective. Their formula for success should be reproduced in other countries.
ECAW says
Agreed. At their core (as far as I know…perhaps I just don’t know enough about them) is a Christian minister (Mark Durie) who takes Islam on theologically. Every country needs its Mak Duries, so much harder for the opposition to smear with the usual brainless insults.
dumbledoresarmy says
Mark Durie is an Aussie national treasure. An Anglican priest who knows *exactly* what Islam is. A linguist and scholar. He has studied at Leiden, under the brilliant (only lately deceased) Hans Jansen, a *formidable* scholar – and critic – of Islam.
He has read the works of Bat Yeor, the Jewish scholar and historian who undertook pioneering studies of Dhimmitude. Indeed, what he has done in his book “The Third Choice” is to distil her insights – which she presented in massive, encyclopaedic, scholarly tomes – into a briefer and more readily accessible form… and *extend* them, having done his own additional research. His other main book “Which God?” disposes summarily of the claim, oft- made by mohammedan dawa artists and their Useful Idiot Christian – and Jewish! – dupes and enablers, that Muslims worship ‘the same god’ as do the Jews and the Christians.
Both should be on the bookshelf of every person in the counter-jihad; and if one is an observant Jew, or a practising Christian, one should make sure that one’s rabbi or one’s priest/ minister/ vicar/ rector/ bishop/ cardinal is given a copy of both. Just so that they will have NO possible excuse for pleading ignorance. Indeed, I would also argue that persons who are neither Jewish nor Christian, but who have Jewish or Christian friends or colleagues whom they see foolishly swallowing the line that Islam is ‘an ‘Abrahamic’ [sic] religion’, or the line about ‘people of the book’ or the line about ‘monotheism’ and ‘we all worship one God’, should get hold of Durie’s two books – “The Third Choice’ and ‘Which God?” and present same to said friends or colleagues.
I’d recommend this course of action to our Hindu Indian posters and lurkers. Don’t sit around complaining about how the Christians are siding with the Muslims (which basically means that the Muslims are **deceiving and making use of**, in other words, SUCKERING, the Christians). **Educate your Christian neighbours**!! If they can read English, even with difficulty – give them Durie’s books! (His writing style is lovely and clear and plain, easy to understand).
ECAW says
If only we could get our friends and neighbours to actually read anything relevant, even the “putrid book” itself. I have had zero success in that with my personal contacts. They know there’s a problem but they just will not look.
Peggy says
The sad thing is that all we needed was to listen to the Lebanese Christians when they were warning us about accepting Muslim “refugees”.
They didn’t have to read any books to know how evil Islam is. They lived the nightmare of being Christian and allowing Muslim “refugees” to enter their country and breed out of control until Lebanon became what it is today.
I remember hearing “don’t bring your hatred and racism into our society” being said a lot when people tried to warn us about the scum that was coming in.
I remember John Howard welcoming those Albanian women with kisses who were here as refugees. It made my stomach turn because I knew that we were welcoming the wrong people. Eventually our government had to pay off a few of them to return.
It’s not as if his government wasn’t warned about Muslims. For a PM not have his team check out what the Christian Lebanese were saying and using their own country as an example is unforgivable.
TheBuffster says
The Express article misidentifies the Q Society as a political party. It is not – it’s an educational group. It’s the Australian Liberty Alliance that is the political party, which is supported by the Q Society. It’s the Australian Liberty Alliance that has run candidates in the most recent election, with the ALA logo on their campaign literature and posters.
gooob says
Clarification check points.
Q Society: Quran Society ?
Australian Liberty Alliance (ALA): Allah?
Holy crap, spaghetti taqiyya
And to think I was going to go to one of their meatings.
PJG says
“Q” is simply a variation of “Kew”, where the group first met.
ALA is well aware of the joke about Allah.
Don’t worry! Go to a public meeting.
When Q can afford to have any, that is, as it is fighting a defamation case which is costing a fortune.
Peggy says
I’ve been to a presentation by Robert Spencer in Melbourne organized by the Q Society so how can they possibly have anything to do with “Allah”?
You must be joking.
gooob says
That’s right Peggy
P is for Philips
Bench Sung Park says
He was.
DFD says
Hey Aussies and friends:
Time for a repost: http://tinyurl.com/huhrem8
For those who haven’t seen and heard it, enjoy
ECAW says
The putrid book….perfect description.
dumbledoresarmy says
William Gladstone, PM of England in the 19th century at the time when the Ottoman Musilms were massacring Bulgarian Christian dhimmis, called the Quran “an accursed book”. (One could say the same of the Hadiths and Sira, of course, as well).
ibrahim itace muhammed says
low iq alrasooli,you can continue with your kufr system,worshiping a man partly god and partly human; and that your religiousity which is confined to places of worship.you allow us practice our religion as it is.that is which covers all aspects of human life,spiritual and mundane.we are not forcing you to believe as we believe. if you say we have to confine our religious practices to mosque only no to complying with other aspects of sharia,you are saying we have to believe in the manner you believe in your religion.it means denying us freedom to practice our religion as it is.do you think is possible?if you and mad trump want confront us to abandone some aspects of sharia,it means war; and we are ready for it to defend our religion.by then you will see true jihad, not terrorism practiced by misguided elements. how do expect an outsider to dictate you how to do a reform for you?to reform what?to stop complying with sharia ?mr low iq you and mad trump are just deceiving yourselves.
IQ al Rassooli says
ibrahim
DROP DEAD!!!!
You Muslims are the most perfect IDOLATERS in the world WORSHIPING the most DEPRAVED creature ever soiled the surface of this Earth called Muhammad bin abd Allah, his rock god called Allah embedded in the Black Stone in the Kaaba
IQ al Rassooli
Kafir & Proud!
http://www.alrassooli.com
PJG says
Ibrahim:
Your declaration of war is noted.
All the more proof that you and your “all-aspects-of-human-life” religion do not belong in OUR countries.
OUR countries, do you hear?
DFD says
Ibrahim, Ibrahim, Ibrahim,
You have been at that “golden” xxxx-strength camel juice again. Take it easy with that stuff, will ya?!
Champ says
Ahaha!!! …the one with the “low iq” is the mohammedan SOA!
TJ says
The bible clearly showed very strong support for little ones who are killed while people walk on by. The authors of the koran concealed this valuable testimony. Then they turned around and associated the names of biblical figures with the killing of little ones when they said allah wills polytheists to kill their offspring. This is an act of treachery, Muhammed. The koran is not worthy to use as an assault weapon against other people.
don vito says
itace, how does a kufr keep his blood, life, and property safe from the lying, thieving hands of your filthy bloody prophet?
Angemon says
Shouldn’t be a surprise to anyone, really. I said it before and I’ll say it again: the ideas “liberals” stand for are supported by a minority of people in any given Western nation (OK, maybe Sweden is the exception). A vociferous minority, but a minority all the same. What the silent majority is lacking is political representation – how many political parties so far (besides actual far-right parties, who 10 or 20 years ago were busy protesting against foreigners in general, especially from the former Soviet republics) have ran on a campaign of fighting against islamization?
citycat says
@ I Q rasool
Have no fear.
Don’t ignore the war.
Fear is losing the ground, losing energy, composure, focus.
Focus on oneself and one’s fellows in communal power to fight the enemy mentally, physically, streetwisely, spiritually, magically, or wotever —-ally you like.
Fear is weakness, overcome it immediately and begin.
dumbledoresarmy says
Thanks, mate.
I think of the islamoresistance, all over the world, as it cobbles itself together, in different ways and forms in different lands, as “the Order of the Phoenix”.
Thing I want to see? I want to see Trump, after his election, and after having toured the USA giving special attention to its more neglected corners, do an overseas tour; and after having visited *Israel* and Jerusalem (with the US embassy, of course, having been relocated to Jerusalem about two seconds after his inauguration), proceeding to INDIA. I want to see the US breaking off its deadly and dead-end ‘relationship’ with hideous Islamic Pakistan (and all the other OIC entities with which it is currently in very unhealthy dhimmi-like tribute-paying relationships) and reorient, bigtime, towards India, with a view to the pushback against Jihad.
And I’d like to see Australia steadily ramping *down* its unhealthy dhimmi-like relationship with Islamic Indonesia, and backing away from Pakistan too, and from totalitarian China, and reorienting toward India, our commonwealth sister and natural ally in the Asia/ Indian Ocean region.
ibrahim itace muhammed says
where is an image of idol muslims worship in any muslim places of worship?muslims are not worshiping the blackstone.blackstone is just a sign showing the direction of baitul maamur in the heaven being circulated by angels as part of their worship as we do tawaf circulating the kaaba.we are not worshiping the building of kaaba.we are worshiping allah in that place in the manner allah told us to do. kissing blackstone is not mandatory. mere going near it will make to reflect the miraclous signs in islam.it is just like baitul maqdis in jerussalem being visited by muslims to see the site of miraclous journey performed by prophet muhammad. but i am saying christianity where jesus is worshiped as god was evolved from paganism of mithraism of old inspired by the devil.it is not using cross symbols in the churches that make it paganic,but its foundation of worshiping human being as god.period!
Jeffie says
Isn’t Jesus in the koran? Isn’t he one of your ‘prophets’ also? So, your “religion” has a bit of the old ‘paganism of mithraism’ in it?
You guys could get rid of that black stone and just put up a sign.
And how come you never get on here and condemn the attacks made by people of your faith?
JIMJFOX says
I joined Q Society 2 yrs ago… and still only 1000 members?? I don’t believe it!
ALA= Australian Liberty Alliance–
Things are not looking good with them, sadly.
http://australianlibertyalliance.org.au/news-media/news/party-operation-holding-pattern-12-18-months
patriotliz says
Can you imagine Hitler using propaganda to spread his evil by labeling anyone opposed to him as Naziphobic? Disregard the fact that the Mohammedans call it a “religion.” Whatever “religion” Mohammed claimed was hijacked from Old Testament and perverted to fit the tribal barbarism of Arabia of the time.
Westerners have to overcome their fear of being labeled when it comes to combating the evil, supremacist ideology of Islam. Those who label you Islamophobic only want you dead, converted to Islam or submissive (dhimmis).
Phil Copson says
If the “Q” party is looking for a slogan, maybe they should adopt Basil Fawlty’s famous line…………
“PLEASE TRY TO UNDERSTAND BEFORE ONE OF US DIES…”
John A. Marre says
It’s hard to remain optimistic about this. German and Britain are welcoming Muslim “refugees” with open arms, and are allowing them to rape and murder their people. In a vain attempt to keep their citizens in the dark, they are persecuting anyone who speaks out about what is happening.
They are fully aware of the rapid rate of increase of Muslims. Not having to work, getting free money, and being explicitly allowed to have four wives means prolific growth, with nothing to check it.
Britain has sealed its fate by banning Robert Spencer and Michael Savage.