The shooters could be “Islamophobes” who screamed “Allahu akbar” mockingly. Or they could be Muslims who were firing upon other Muslims whom they deem heretical: a Sunni-Shia dispute, or adherents of the Islamic State versus opponents of it.
In any case, this is being covered as if it were an “anti-Muslim hate crime,” and it may be. However, this story that notes that the gunmen were screaming “Allahu akbar” is notably free of the laments about “Islamophobia” that were in earlier stories about the shooting. There is no certainty at this point that it was an “anti-Muslim hate crime,” and the screams of “Allahu akbar” open up the possibility that this was yet another “anti-Muslim hate crime” committed by Muslims.
“Multiple dead, 2 arrested in shooting at Quebec City mosque,” CBC News, January 29, 2017:
Quebec City Police say several people are dead after shots were fired inside a Quebec City mosque on Sunday night.
Multiple people are also feared wounded. Their condition is not known at this time.
A few dozen people were inside the Islamic cultural centre of Quebec in the Sainte-Foy neighbourhood when the shooting began just after 8 p.m.
Quebec City Police Constable Étienne Doyon said mostly men were gathered at the mosque for evening prayers.
The director of the centre said at least five people were killed, but that information has not been confirmed by police.
Two suspects have been arrested, one of whom was apprehended after a chase that ended near l’île d’Orléans.
A large perimeter has been set up around the mosque.
‘A Quebecois accent’
A witness, who asked to remain anonymous, told CBC’s French-language service Radio-Canada that two masked individuals entered the mosque.
“It seemed to me that they had a Quebecois accent. They started to fire, and as they shot they yelled, ‘Allahu akbar!’ The bullets hit people that were praying. People who were praying lost their lives. A bullet passed right over my head,” said the witness.
“There were even kids. There was even a three-year-old who was with his father.”…

Keith Gilbert says
O’h how lovely, now our Northern Neighbors have the joys of an ‘islamic’ solution! But really, islamics killing islamics; where’s the down side?
Lenny the Truth says
It reminds me of the Boston Tea Party. I doubt this killing was done by Muslims and the Allahu Akbar yelling was just a jab.
This simply says that Canadian Nationalism and anti-Trudeau feelings are starting to be actioned. It was bound to happen. It is a shame whenever innocent people lose their lives, and it is obviously driven by hate.
gravenimage says
More of the “Infidels are the real terrorists” and are turning on poor Muslims rot. *Ugh*.
Namenaa says
The word infidel makes you a very dangerous person. You are the terror we talk about.
kessler says
For those who claim this is an Ahmadiyya mosque – where did you find this info?
Nothing here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Cultural_Centre_of_Quebec_City
carol says
“There is no certainty at this point that it was an “anti-Muslim hate crime,” and the screams of “Allahu akbar” open up the possibility that this was yet another “anti-Muslim hate crime” committed by Muslims.”
““““`
Things are getting really confusing:
– would an “anti-Muslim hate crime committed by Muslims be a “cry for help”?
– or could it be that Trudeau’s token peaceful Ahmadiyya Muslims have been attacked (and wise young Justin did not foresee this?!)
– or could it be some beer-filled Francophones indulging in some wry humor or revenge?
– or could it be Justin has arranged a red flag to help seal his “No free speech for Canadian Islamophobes” agenda?
Another mystery.
Elton says
Apparently this is an Ahmedia mosque who are considered apostates by both Shias and Sunnis so any scenario is possible at this point.
Elton says
Ahmadiyya
cs says
They are pushing and pushing and pushing and pushing that been Christian and nationalist is a crime, and it is something shameful.
I am neither, but I completely understand the frustration there.
Duncan Arthurs says
that is very possible that the government set the shooting up to help renforce there sharia law bill they are trieing to bring in
carol says
Following Kessler’s link to Wikipedia one reads that the case has seemingly been signed, sealed and delivered with amazing speed:
“On January 29, 2017, the mosque was the target of a terrorist attack. A LONE GUNMAN opened fire on the crowd, killing six people and injuring nineteen others. The attack was denounced by the entire political class of Quebec and attracted a wave of sympathy all over the world”
Another “lone gunman”! (and I somehow expect it will be the Muslim who’s the “witness”).
And yet above the CBS reported per another witness:
“A witness, who asked to remain anonymous, told CBC’s French-language service Radio-Canada that TWO MASKED INDIVIDUALS entered the mosque.
“It seemed to me that they had a Quebecois accent. They started to fire, and as they shot they yelled, ‘Allahu akbar!’ The bullets hit people that were praying. People who were praying lost their lives. A bullet passed right over my head,” said the witness.”
Has CBC explained the discrepancy? Interestingly on The Agenda with Steve Paikin a handful if Islamites immediately discussed the need to end all “hateful” speech.
Retarded genius says
Only 6 months ago I predicted this on my blog….Not because I am any smarter….but because I know the history of the decline of Christian Lebanon 80 years ago. History repeats itself and westerners generally seem so intent on continuing this tradition.
Carmel says
Lebanon recent history is the exact model of what might happen to western world.
Kay says
Please give me a good reference for this history of Lebanon. Maybe it could break through to some of my “progressive” friends.
carol says
Kay…I haven’t read this book but imagine it’s great – Thomas L. Friedman’s “Beirut to Jerusalem”. It won a National Book Award in 1989 and was last updated in 2012. His book Longitudes and Latitudes is excellent. He was a NYT reporter.
john spielman says
Dear Lenny the truth: we have to wait for the TRUTH
but CBC radio this morning said 2 men were arrested. One, who was arrested at the scene, was from MOROCCO! so it sounds like muslims on muslim killing of apostates
carol says
The plot thickens with this newflash from Rebel Media:
https://youtu.be/zLOKvDkOzvA
At 2:40 an imam discusses bad feelings with another nearby mosque. Somehow the malice always gets refreshed.
JawsV says
Islam deserves to be hated.
Guy Macher says
Nice try, Lenny! You sought to deceive the kafir. You fooled no one, but Allah is pleased with your efforts.
no_one says
Allah is the devil, you know that. Jesus is Lord.
Phil Copson says
Very true, Lenny.
Your words: “… It was bound to happen. It is a shame whenever innocent people lose their lives, and it is obviously driven by hate….”
Yes, it was bound to happen that there would be a terrorist attack in Canada.
Yes, it’s a shame
Yes, It’s driven by hate.
So why do you do it ?
MsJustice says
What? Why does who do what?
JtotheVizzy says
Yeah sure a Morocan named Mohamed Khadir did this because “Canadian Nationalism” and “anti-Trudeau”… SURE BUD! Can’t blame you, prolly got your news from Global and CBC as well as your history lesson that relates dumping tea into a harbor to protest taxation without representation with a Mosque shooting that’s most likely perpetrated by at least one other Muslim.
This is why people think Liberals are stupid. Are they wrong?
brenrod says
why doubt that… the biggest conflicts on the globe are muslims against muslims…syria, iraq, libya, lebanon, tunisia, egypt, etc…. the largest of those mulim conflicts being the sunni shia wars in syria, iraq, lebanon.
Western Canadian says
Unless of course, it was a muslim on muslim attack. Your user name is incoherent, as is your post.
DFD says
Lenny the Truth says: “…Boston Tea Party. I doubt this killing was done ….. It was bound to happen. It is a shame whenever innocent people lose their lives, and it is obviously driven by hate.”
If you’re suffering from a mixture of Alzheimer & Dyslexia, see a physician…
Mick says
Please read as one of the suspects is of Moroccan origin! This is clearly a Muslim on Muslim attack. The religion is the sickest thing that exists today. People are brainwashed and they use the far left wing ideology against themselves, it’s beyond moronic they get stuck in an “infinite moral ideology loop” the brainwashed left who have no real idea of reality have these moroals that they seem to think everyone has they harp on about womans rights and gay rights then almost in the same breath harp on about supporting muslims when their sick culture persecutes all of the above and sees them as second class. It goes on and on but I’m sick of the far left wing media depicting anything that is common sense based on reality being seen as racist or xenophobic or bigoted it’s a joke!
carol says
Mick…calm down, you’re not alone! The new word OIKOPHOBES coined by Roger Scruton, “the world’s leading conservative thinker”, explains it all:
http://www.nationalreview.com/postmodern-conservative/425181/more-still-scruton-versus-oikophobia-peter-augustine-lawler
Whenever anyone even whispers ISLAMOPHOBIA we must silence them with this retort.
C T says
Where’s the downside? There are actually non-violent Muslims. They find a way to interpret the Koran peacefully and ignore the other claimed sayings of Mohammed. Think of them as a bit like the Amish–religious, distinctive practices and clothing, but non-aggressive and non-coercive.
Jihad Watch, you do a valuable service in calling attention to violent jihad. Do you think you could also do the service of finding the sects/versions of Islam that think jihad is supposed to be spiritual and nonviolent and share information about them sometimes, too. CAIR is deceptive in that it acts like the whole Muslim community is one and united, but they’re lying. You don’t need to fall for and promote the same lie.
Tangata says
The comparison of moderate Muslims to the Amish is ridiculous… These so–called moderates are equally at risk of oppression from their fundamentalist brethren as non-Muslims. They are effectively irrelevant because they don’t do anything to oppose the so–called radicals or to confront the realities of the Islamic doctrine and most influential exegesis of the Islamic sources of their beliefs and practices.
aDhimmiSaysWhat? says
Yes, I agree with you that there are sects of non-violent muslims. The problem is that they are still muslims. They are still going to have a koran sitting around their house. And they are still going to have children. What’s to stop their children from picking up the koran one day and come to the conclusion that they are superior to other religions? What’s to stop them from believing that they should embrace jihad and martyrdom? You really think it’s going to be because their parents tell them so? If you pick up the koran and actually read it (which I’m guessing you have not), those are the logical conclusions anyone with half a brain would to after reading it.
The problem here is islam itself. It’s a fascist, misogynistic, totalitarian, supremacist, Jew-hating ideology. Read the koran. Read the had it’s. I base my statement entirely on the contents of the foundational texts of islam.
Samuel S. Kent says
Precisely! The seeds of hatred are in the Koran, and a future majority population of Muslims, given a Nazi-like, or if you will an Islamofascist leader, could spell doom for Western civilization or a conflict of proportions well beyond Haulocausts of the 20 th century. The Koran IS a book of Hatred and that fact must be publicly exposed.
Mick says
So basically the entire culture is the problem, I think what trump Has done is right, people with short memories forget that Obama has caused more war and division than most he has destroyed your country, the same as Blair and browns labour did to ours, we are still recoiling from the devistation, people thought they could spend like no tomorrow and claim benefits and expect the money to come for ever!
eliizabeth says
Artist Bosch Fawstin’s “Draw Mohammed Contest” winner’s acceptance speech of 5-15-2015 – extremely important words from a courageous and humane ex-Muslim . . .
Thank everyone for coming here . . . I have a Muslim background, but the problem with even moderate Muslims (I was raised in the Bronx by Albanian Muslim parents) is that the poison — *misogyny and Jew-hatred* — gets everyone, I don’t care how “decent” they are:
[Concerning commonplace misogyny:] I don’t know of one female in my generation who wasn’t beaten by her husband. I know that my mom used to mourn the birth of my nieces. I was shocked when I first saw it. I didn’t know what she was doing. I found out . . . . Even though being raised around that crap, it still really affected me.
[Concerning commonplace Jew-hatred:] There was a casual admiration for Hitler in my household and my further family. That’s why I refer to Hitler as “Islam’s favorite infidel.” They [Muslims] forgive him that he is not Muslim, because he killed more Jews than anyone. So it is that kind of casual evil that poisons everyone who calls himself Muslim. I don’t care if they’re decent. I still have cousins that I somewhat see, you know, talk to here and there, but it’s always stunted [stultified] by the fact of the work that I’m doing, but they’re not out to kill people . . . [Yet] they are still affected in terrible ways by the ideology.
carol says
Great to get insights and honesty from ex-muslims. Check out his blogspot
http://fawstin.blogspot.ca/ for a fond cartoon of Trump.
Cecilia Ellis says
Carol, the “emoji” drawing by Fawstin was great, too! Thanks for the link.
carol says
A little off-topic here but check down about five cartoons on http://fawstin.blogspot.ca/
for a revealing insight into the nature of LINDA SARSOUR. It was a Twitter post she made and then quickly erased.
No Fear says
Anyone who finds the Quran “non violent and peaceful” is delusional. Mohammed is a military commander. The Quran is Mohammed’s text book on “how to win”. The Quran has a chapter on “War Booty”. It is a war manual. Some delusional muslims say it is a peaceful book. Sure it is peaceful, IF YOU SUBMIT TO ISLAM. That is ;like saying Nazism is peaceful……
The Quran is evil. I WILL NOT SUBMIT! I WILL NOT SUBMIT!
C T says
Yes, they often are pulling the wool over their own eyes about the seeds of extremism in their holy book. Still, there’s a way to interpret it so that Muhammed’s jihad was for his time only. Jews do something similar with the way they interpret the Torah now.
Vincent Ciappetta says
As a Catholic, I believe that the CCB should move to the refugee camps, and learn what Islam is about. They are doing our nation a tremendous disservice by placing Muslims in our communities. It seems to me that they are doing it for the money. They are ignorant and clueless. Ask the Brothers beheaded in Moracco, or the priest in France, the children put in a cage and set on fire, the beheaded children who refused to convert to Islam. Islam is a criminal cult that demands the murder and rape of non Muslims. I’m disgusted with these imbeciles.
Pierre Marchessault says
So true! Its evil
Demsci says
“/There are actually non-violent Muslims. They find a way to interpret the Koran peacefully and ignore the other claimed sayings of Mohammed.”
CT, I put to you a few positions Western Democratic Citizens can take about the Moslims:
– A. The Islamic doctrine; of Quran-Sira-Hadiths, is very clear AND basically benign. This is the position of the Muslims and Political Corrects.
– B. The Islamic doctrine is vey clear and clearly anti-democratic, anti-western and dangerous. Many people believe this.
– C. The Islamic doctrine is UNCLEAR, MULTI-INTERPRETABLE as multiple contradicting interpretations of parts of Quran-Sira-Hadiths are still considered legal by so many Muslims.
And this means that Interpretation is paramount, not some ONE CLEAR MEANING of Islamic holy texts. This opens the door to distinguishing different groupings among Muslims, and not painting them with one brush.
You seem to adhere to the C-position. you distinquish among Muslims.
But remember, there is not ONE Muslim, at least I never heard about one, that ADMITS that the Islamic Doctrine is UNCLEAR, MULTI INTERPRETABLE, in multiple, contradicting, but still valid interpretations of various Islamic holy texts.
And remember also, that when Islam is so Multi-interpretable and it is shown that hundreds of millions of (fellow) Muslims interpret Islam in a clearly anti-democratic, totalitarian, anti-Western way,
AND when religion is considered a CHOICE, not a race, then that means that
Muslims still should be held accountable for adhering, clinging to such an unclear, massively detrimentally interpreted religion or ideology, even if so many also interpret in a less hostile, dangerous way.
PM says
I liked to believe this too but having read over and over stats like 54% of French students who identify as muslim thought the Hebdo cartoonists deserved to die, I have since changed my mind. The violent minority is encouraged and supported by the majority.
JawsV says
There is no way to interpret the Koran peacefully. The Koran is supposed to be the literal words of Allah, no “interpretations” allowed (as with the Bible).
Demsci says
I heartily agree with you, JawsV, really. My point is the question whether we, onlookers, NOT MUSLIMS, judge the Koran, Sira, Hadith as
either clear and with detrimental influence or unclear.
BOTH positions have merits. I mean, what good is a very unclear most important guiding text for the followers of an ideology?
The case for the Quran being unclear;
– Gerd Puin told us that 1 in 5 Quranverses are incomprehensible, because written originally in Aramaic or Syriac.
– Other historians point to contradictions and problems with the Quran.
– The text of the Quran is not changed for one iota for at least 1000 years. Which text can then be CLEAR OR COMPREHENSIVE?
– There remains the option of choice between “only timebound texts” and “still prescriptive texts”” for Muslims, but precisely that option makes Islam unclear.
Adrian says
Nice try, CT… but the media already do a thorough job of telling everyone Islam has nothing to do with Islam
Dale Netherton says
The Two Prong Attacks of Islam
A false dichotomy is afoot. The notion that Islam is only composed of “Radical” extremists and the other Muslims are simply peaceful is actually a two prong effort to instill Sharia law by two methods of infiltration. First ,the one that gets the most attention is the bloody acts of killing and maiming witnessed most recently by the attacks in Paris. Here the suicidal fanatics demonstrate to the innocents and the muslim population at large how dedicated and ruthless they can be. Willing to blow themselves up to instill terror in the hearts of the innocents they simultaneously instill that same terror in the Muslims passively going along who dare not speak up against their fanatical brothers acting out the atrocities of Mohammad. This method of spreading Islam has been the strategy of Islamists from the first days of this religion. The objective of creating Sharia law and the killing of infidels, the worldwide conquest of all nations, and the establishment of a caliphate drive this movement.
Once the terror is established by the fanatics the road is clear for the passive Muslims to make their move by infiltration and non-assimilation into countries primarily of another persuasion. Relying on the altruism and fear of their victims, mobs of Muslims take over by majority as in the town of Hamtramck Michigan. It is equivalent to a mopping up operation after the blitzkrieg of the fanatics. This follow up movement must be reinforced by periodic acts of violence and terror to reinforce the followers belief that the movement is inevitable.
Americans and many others have not wised up to this approach and have excused the followers as deserving of innocence. The taking over of pockets of formerly non-muslim areas proves otherwise.
If you couple this approach with a willingness to lie to promote Islam you have a potent objective that can only be stopped if it is recognized as the devious monstrosity it is. The intellectual defense of claiming islamophobia when “innocent followers” are accused of compliance to this spread of Islam works well in a country willing to give the benefit of the doubt and turn the other cheek . Identifying the hypocrisy of Infidelophobia should neutralize any claims by the Islamics of Islamaphobia.
This war is a different war than those of the past. It is not a war of identified enemies with uniforms and national loyalty. It is a war of subversives willing to connive and infiltrate, perform suicidal carnage and simultaneously slither into the population of the unsuspecting in two different forms. One is the fanatic and one is the follower but both have the same objective and only perform differently to obtain this goal.
The term radicalized has real meaning when the follower becomes the fanatic. Passively infiltrating and avoiding assimilation is a more subdued method so those who want to speed up the process and inspire the followers to comply become who we call “ radicalized” which means they are now of the fanatic class and will do violence to intimidate and strike terror.
So what is to be done in such a war? First identify the strategy for what it is and realize how attitudes and mores are affecting our ability to counteract the movement. Calling the followers innocent is a major mistake. When the followers do not denounce the fanatics you can be sure they are being compliant. How many Muslims did you see condemn the killings in Paris?
This logically leads to the need to identify and root out those who are plotting against the people who are innocent. The source of propaganda is wherever the notion of a caliphate and Muslim dominance is taught. These centers whether in America or the Middle East or the Far East must be targeted as seeds of conquest and infiltrated and monitored and/or destroyed. Hiding behind the “sacredness” of a religious temple or sanctuary is only another tool the true Muslims hide behind just as they hide behind women and children in battle.
Once the enemy knows we are onto their game, the game is over. When they talk we know they lie. When they seek peace we know they seek dominance. When they claim innocence we know they only use a different method to overtake us. When they cry discrimination, we simply tell them we discriminate against all criminal behavior. We need to give no quarter to this enemy that is doing everything it can to overtake us. They think they are being clever but the identification of their methods and connivance puts us in the position of strength they fear. Once they know that we know what they are up to, trepidation will begin, doubt will spread and the cleverness they were sure was undecipherable will disappear. Know your enemy is the first requirement of victory.
marie says
Thank you for your excellent post. Please share your information as
widely as possible to save the western world from this Muslim takeover. i hope Trump is informed as well as you are.
Australia needs awakening they are in denial.
carol says
Dale…great summary. Would you mind if others “cut and paste” and send it to some dozey politicians?
brenrod says
why search for needles in haystacks…. and most muslim “postitive” leanings are limited to treatment of muslims by other muslims…. thats how they came up with that ludicrous “islam is a religion of peace”. Notice that you dont see muslims promoting your views
carol says
CT…Muslims seem to confuse their social/cultural world with a valid spiritual pursuit. You can’t build your religious body on the ugly, insubstantial, poisoned skeleton of Muhammed.
Do these peaceful Muslims you speak of just ignore how this affects others? It appears so to a large extent. Or does the fancy that this group and “religion” is above all others make the narcissistic pleasure and the piratical ends justify the means?
The world thinks differently and has been patient for an amazing length of time but it certainly has had enough of “humoring” this brutal craziness.
Mick says
The entire Islamic culture is violent and derogatory, when you live in close proximity to them and have travelled you find this out, people tend to not see it because they abide by their ways rather than the ways tiptoeing round or turning a blind eye to what they do. The religion and their culture needs to be driven out of western society. I don’t like any religion it’s all made up nonsense, but when it actually drives your culture there is the problem and until that religion becomes a back seat to normal life or is dropped all together we will never live side by side!
gravenimage says
*Of course* there is a downside. We now have Muslims so emboldened that they are openly slaughtering people in our civilized lands. If you think they are going to stick to murdering each other, you are quite mistaken.
Marisol Enrique says
I have yet to see an Islamic terrorist act where one did not scream: “Allahu Akbar”. So, this could very well be another ‘fake hate crime’ committed by Muslims. We’ll know soon enough.
Dum Spiro says
If the perpetrators were non-Muslims, wouldn’t the MSM rush to publish and broadcast their full identities IMMEDIATELY?
The truth will come out eventually…
— Spero
Keith says
I couldn’t agree with you more on that. It always seems, in the UK where I live anyway, that muslims are not identified but crimes by non muslims especially against muslims are identified as soon as the police have any suspicion about the culprit.
PM says
Yas
Behi says
Sunny Muslims believe that if they kill Shia Muslims, Christians and the Jewish they go to heaven. Western counties that support Saudi Arabia be assure that after slaughter of Shia Muslims by ISIS and Saudi Arabia killers is their turn. They will do genocide against Christians too. support Saudi Arabia against Shia Muslims, wait and see how they behead your children later.
Malcolm (SouthAfria) says
Need to verify the facts.
https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/5qyfqw/canadian_police_scanner_the_two_suspects_are/
JMB says
It is mid evening here in Sydney (Australia), I heard about this attack on the radio while driving home and as usual I came straight to Jihad Watch to try and find out more. On the radio news I heard the Canadian PM letting let us know in no uncertain terms that this is a hate crime and all Muslims are more than welcome to call Canada home. (words to that effect)
I also understand that the Canadian Immigration Minister is a Muslim.
And in other news it was nothing but Anti-Trump, Anti-Trump, poor Muslim victims, “The Sky is Falling” repeated endlessly.
Thank you Malcolm for your post from ZA.
PM says
My Canadian friends (doctors, uni lecturers, intellectuals and artists), have told me stories that would curl your hair. Female islamists, dressed like letterboxes, demanding subjects be changed to suit their demented ideology, demanding men be banned from classrooms and when that failed demanding partitions to separate males and females. Lodging complains concerning the length of skirt the Dr was wearing. Attempting to have a lecturing medical Dr fired for showing images of naked bodies without offering a trigger waring. You couldn’t make this stuff up!
Malcolm (SouthAfria) says
@JMB
You are welcome.
Great country, love your cricket/rugby.
Malcolm (SouthAfria) says
@ PM
Have a look at this.
JMB says
Hi Malcolm & Also PM. Re that video clip, you are looking at Muslim logic and arrogance at it’s worst yet out leaders are bowing down to them and their demands all the time.
Note, we now have staff prayer rooms in many Australian public hospitals. Did they construct these from new? No, they just converted the previously much appreciated visitor lounges that they had on each ward.
Thank you Malcolm for your comment on or cricket and football.
Infidel Lass says
The downside is that now we’re going to have to listen to them whine and sob because they’re always the victims. I live in France and à few Muslims were killed during the Nice attack- four or five I recall. The French media only interviewed the Muslims’ families, as if they were the prime targets of the attack and not collateral damage. During one week, we heard and saw Abdul, Rachid and Samira. Not one Jean or Marie was interviewed more than once a day; it was all about them. Same during the Paris attacks- the media spoke every day of Mohamed, a Stade de France guard who had stopped one of the jihadists from entering- suggesting he receive the Medal of Honor for doing his job and refusing entry to a suspicious person. Naturally great attention was brought to his religion. It’s always about Muslims- you’d think not one non-Muslim ever suffered at the hands of terrorists. And boy, do they make the most out of the attention; first thing you hear after an attack is how there will surely be a surge in Islamophobic hate crime. Politics warn about this before even paying tribute to the victims.
Cornelius Bradley says
Looks like the Muslim is always made out to be the victim fake media.
Carmel says
Muslims are victims when they are in a minority status but as soon as they gain power, they don’t care about others. Victimhood is their first step in overcome a society. Hypocrites!!!
PM says
You are correct and the hatred and anger is building. Now watch the pendulum swing.
carol says
Four or five Muslims on Steve Paiken milked it for all it’s worth. The real emphasis seemed to be on stopping “hate speech” by Islamophobes (surprise, surprise). Paiken never once referred to any “problems” within their great “religion”. One blonde-haired Muslima seemed to actually smile and glow all the way through the discussion as though Paiken’s dhimmitudinal presentation made it all ever so worthwhile.
zerodown32 says
The one thing to like about this Sharia death cult Theocracy is they kill a lot of each other.
shmaya meir says
Not sure where the “allahu Ackbar” bs is coming from. The CBC, CTV, Quebec media have all reported on the case as first response media, and in none of those reports is there any indication that the gunmen said anything prior to or during their rampage. In fact, eyewitnesses from the mosque at the time of the shooting indicate that as prayers finished, two men quietly and silently walked into the mosque and just began shooting.
Say it isn’t so bigots. you are so full of it even your white hoods look brown!!!
Robert Spencer says
In reality, the CBC is the source for the eyewitness testimony that the gunmen screamed “Allahu akbar”:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/quebec-city-mosque-gun-shots-1.3957686
Ed Lata says
Maybe so Robert, but the CBC report also says (perhaps updated) that Alexandre Bissonnette, 27 (http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/quebec-city-mosque-attack-alexandre-bissonnette-1.3958559) was arrested as the sole suspect.
I’m thinking this is an usual Islamic name, sounding decidedly French Canadian and hard pressed to find Sunni or Shia influence as any motive for retaliation.
Whether M. Bissonnette is a scapegoat or the shooter, more independent investigative journalism is needed but lacking in Canada. By the time of his trial in a couple of years, the Public will have forgotten the incident but they will remember the current officially stated sentiments being pandered to the Muslim community as an example to follow.
DFD says
shmaya meir says: “…Say it isn’t so bigots. you are so full of it even your white hoods look brown!!!”
Thank you, thank you, thank you ever so much!
====================================
But why only one compliment? That’s rather miserly! You missed Nazi, Racist, Islamophobe and Imperialist! I feel offended by such omission – really! That’s not nice.
carol says
shmaya…haven’t you read any of the previous information? You seem to have landed here out of the blue.
Ian Clark says
I’d be surprised if the accounts of a Quebecois accent weren’t accurate. This doesn’t surprise me. Small town Canada has more gun loving hunters than you think. And Quebecers are the most protective of their culture. No, I’d be quite surprised if this was done by Muslims.
Wellington says
“No, I’d be surprised if this was done by Muslims.”
I wouldn’t.
gravenimage says
Neither would I, Wellington. And lots of Muslims have Quebecois accents.
I was shocked years ago by hearing a pious Muslim in beard and skullcap speaking with a Cockney accent, but that was a long time ago–now it is common.
Frank Courtney says
In addition to the Cockney accent I’ve heard “pious Muslims” speaking with Yorkshire, Scottish, South Wales, Yorkshire, Lancashire, Luton, Birmingham, and Leicester accents … usually on the leftist Biased Broadcasting Corporation’s news when they’ve been whining about being victims of oppression or claiming Islam is the RoP.
Most indigenous (real) Cockneys have fled the east end of London to Essex and Kent to be replaced by Pakistanis and Bangladeshis. Real Cockneys, to merit that name, had to be born within the sound of the bells of the church of St. Mary-le Bow – soon to be replaced by the alien call to prayer. London is lost.
DFD says
Frank Courtney says: “…. London is lost.”
No, only if we surrender it. Get ready to take it back!
Robert Spencer says
Muslims can’t have Quebecois accents?
Isabella says
It was a Quebecois who had converted to Islam who killed the military in Saint-Jean-sur-Richelieu.. This terrorist act happened a few days before the Ottawa terrorist act in the Fall of 2014.
Ian Clark says
It’s more the style that makes me think it’s actual Quebecois. Like I said, small town Canada is full of hunters, and they’re getting more and more angry at the feminist prime minister who is flooding our country with Muslims.
Wellington says
Hunters very much tend not to be killers and there is nothing in their code that would make them such. Contra Muslims big time.
MsJustice says
Exactly !!
Yesenia says
Of course they do Robert…
Adrian says
Speculation on my part, but I find it hard to believe some disgruntled Quebecois would try to lend verisimilitude by shouting “Allah akhbar”… that wouldn’t fool anybody
My guess is actual Muslims
Ian Clark says
You’ve never heard of taunting? Unlike Americans, Canadians know what it’s like to watch our cities fill up with Muslims. In like Europeans, we have a hunting culture.
gravenimage says
Agree, Adrian.
Marisol Enrique says
Good call, Robert!!
juju says
all Quebec immigrants are forced to go to french school so anything is possible. all my friends from different countries sound Quebecois.
Porky The Crusader says
muslims are not Québecois Robert, not the slightest
john spielman says
Dear Robert: CBC radio this morning said that one of the attackers who was arrested at the scene was from MOROCCO sounds like muslims killing muslims apostates!
Lenny the Truth says
I made a remark just a moment after yours, and I agreed. This is like the American story of the Boston Tea Party where white men dressed up as Indians, and rowed out to a boatload of tea, and tossed it into the bay. This was the protest against paying taxes to England.
Of course, it’s a sham. People are fed up with living in danger. And, we all know that the only ones who can get guns in Canada are hunters and police.
gravenimage says
The Boston Tea Party was not a massacre. What calumny.
Wellington says
Seconding graveinmage, this is not at all like the Boston Tea Party. What a lousy comparison.
And no, it’s not just hunters and the police in Canada that can get guns. Might as well say that the only ones that can get drugs are doctors and pharmacists.
Bad people can get guns too. They do all the time, which is why most gun control is useless or even worse than useless. Wake up.
Anne Smith says
When guns are forbidden only the criminals have guns
carol says
Lenny….how about AK47’s?
Western Canadian says
” No, I’d be quite surprised if this was done by Muslims.”
Would you also be surprised to find out that ‘mark lepine’ was the name adopted by the muslim who murdered 14 women in Canada’s largest mass murder???
gravenimage says
Spot on, Western Canadian. And great to see you posting again.
Kay says
When was that?
Isabella says
The Polytechnique massacre happened on December 6, 1989 in Montreal. The monster who did this had an Algerian father and a French-Canadian mother.
carol says
Western Canada…I’d never heard that and the “influence of Islam” likely wouldn’t have registered at the time. Deserves a second look.
JIMJFOX says
As It’s too hard for you to open the link above- here’s the gist–
Canadian Police Scanner: “The two suspects are Bashir al-Taweed and Hassan Matti, Syrians who entered Canada as refugees last week.”
BTW, “Allahu Akbar” means God is GREATER- a small but significant fact showing Islamic supremacy.
Porky The Crusader says
Wowww Good!
Keith Gilbert says
One ‘gunman’ got away! I wonder whether he needs more ammo or not.
john spielman says
one who was captured at the scene was Moroccan according to CBC radio , the other also apparently has been captured!
carol says
One person described a shooter stepping back and coolly reloading before shooting the few men coming at him.
Later it seems this same cool white Quebecois phoned police to tell them he “felt guilty” and wanted to turn himself in.
Who would have expected such a strange “change of heart” so quickly?
Robert Crawford says
Simple: second-generation Muslims in Quebec discover what the Koran really says, find their religion. Travel to middle east for Jihad Finishing School, then with the help of some forged papers travel to Canada claiming to be refugees. Then carry out attack on Amhadiyya mosque.
shmaya meir says
you know, please feel free to point out one credible source that indicates the shooters saying aything. false facts, false alt-right facts. Bullshit all around!!!
Waiting for the source sweetheart, still waiting…..
Robert Spencer says
Why, sure. Here it is, right a CBC report: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/quebec-city-mosque-gun-shots-1.3957686
Islam the religion of killers says
They were just loading up for a night out at the clubs and one of them left the safety off …
Terry says
If
As the story says
Two men were caught. Would that not answer the question. Were they fellow nuzzles or not
By the way
Pethaps I missed it. How many gunmen were there
Ashley says
Still fluid. Some accounts say two gunmen, others say three. If there were three someone got away…
somehistory says
moslims and others claim more moslims than Christians are killed by moslims. One sect against another.
C T says
That fits with what I’ve learned. The violent extremists often want to apply the death penalty for apostasy to other Muslims who don’t agree with them on what the true faith is.
marc says
yup, shia and sunni both regard each other as fake muslims, thats whats really going on in the ME, nothing todo with joooz building apartments in Jerusalem.
carol says
C T says: “The violent extremists often want to apply the death penalty for apostasy to other Muslims who don’t agree with them on what the true faith is.
Not out of “love” for “true faith” I’m sure, but out of “fear” that the “jig will be up”.
Western Canadian says
possibly due to there being more of the ‘wrong’ muslims as convenient targets….
Ashley says
Too early to call, but a disturbing incident indeed.
I think we’ll get some answers when they release the names of the gunmen.
I’ll eat my hat if they are identified as “Joseph Johnson” and “Samuel Smith” or such. My guess is there will be a “Mohammad” or such when identified.
bernie says
Or a “Pierre Levesque” or a Francois Bouvier” or some such.
JIMJFOX says
Canadian Police Scanner: “The two suspects are Bashir al-Taweed and Hassan Matti, Syrians who entered Canada as refugees last week.”
carol says
I wonder is an AK47 leaves gunpowder on the hands and wonder if such a test was done on the “witness” Mohammad?
carol says
keith…they always figure that despite what happens they’ll “out-yammer” us about it. Maybe the more humane solution would be to just cut out their tongues and call it a “tribute to Sharia law”.
JW_Reader says
Though muslims have attacked other muslims in mosques, that has never happened in North America/Europe (at least I never heard). So, am thinking, either this is something totally new trend. Or may be some non muslim at work and shouting Allahu Akbar to send cops off. Too early to say anything definitively.
marc says
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-37391144 plenty of muslims killed for not being muslim enough, I monitor hacked websites, actually as part of my job, very rare i see a mosque website hacked, but this one that was attacked now was a few days ago http://prnt.sc/e229tz, I see lots of churches hacked, near enough daily, but only a couple of mosques in the last 10 years.
carol says
marc…I wonder what the police and media would make of that? And it seems odd that churches are being often hacked but very rarely mosques. Any explanations?
marc says
@carol I’ve never seen it discussed at length, a large number of script kiddies (hackers who go after the lowest hanging fruit) are muslim so they probably avoid pooing on their own doorstep, it’s a broad pattern with anything remotely “right wing”, prepper sites, (non muslim) religious schools, anything related to US veterans. easily monitored using this method https://blog.shodan.io/tracking-hacked-websites/
any webmaster should take responsibility for their own security, there are no internet police, and the authorities in tunisia, morocco and pakistan won’t be offering to help.
Ecommerce is still by far the most often hacked sites.
Eric Jones says
Violence betwen muslims is common. Muslims attack each other in the refugee camps in Europe. In the 1970’s there was a fued between Sunni Muslims groups in Washington DC. In the murders that were part of this fued some children were drowned. There have been Sunni Mulim groups in NYC and Washington DC since the 1970’s. Many native citizens in various countries have converted to islam over the years. Its entrirely possible that a muslim convert would have a Quebec accent.
Eric
davej says
It remains to be seen what the motive was here but I think we should expect more Muslim-manufactured grievances to come to bolster the Islamophobia meme.
Likely to be more terror attacks on infidels too, which were going to happen anyway but can now be dressed up as revenge for Trump having pointed out the obvious truth about Islam. If there’s anything that offends/enrages them it is the truth.
LairdKintyre says
The same day Justin Trudeau earlier tweeted a welcome to all refuggees Trump is turning away.
efoc says
Wonder how long until someone blames this on Trump.
Marisol Enrique says
Actually, here in Canada, several news reports have already claimed that this mosque massacre could be the result of Trump’s new Executive Orders involving immigration from Muslim countries. On the National tonight, they had the audacity to bring on a Muslim who claimed that Trump was going to cause an increase in ISIS recruiting because of the new policies. Ever heard of anything so ridiculous??
efoc says
The lame-stream media will be leading the Trump-hate brigade on this incident – not surprised the National had a Muslim on saying those things, reinforcing the victimhood mentality that Islam naturally inculcates.
It also says a lot when Muslims and dhimmi apologists warn that certain actions will lead to an increase in support for ISIS etc. despite how reasonable and non-violent those actions are i.e. reinforcing border policies. If anything, it’s the Muslims and dhimmi apologists who demonstrate the bigotry of low expectations i.e. they believe Muslims have no agency and aren’t able to think for themselves whenever we do something. If the “peaceful” Islam we constantly hear about isn’t strong enough to stop Muslims from joining ISIS and other Islamic terrorist groups, then that is Islam’s problem. Not ours.
carol says
Muslims don’t excel at self-study.
bernie says
Sam Harris, in a podcast about the Orlando Massacre, talked about how cynical it is to state that there would beva huge rise in Deash recruitment were American govt officials to speak candidly about jihadism and Islamic extremism.
Shazza says
Banning Muslims will not increase terrorism because they are always saying Islam has nothing to do with terrorism.
john spielman says
true and islam has nothing to do with islam!
Dum Spiro says
I wonder how all this will affect the “Islamophobia in Canada” narrative. It brings to mind these two videos:
(and)
We will continue to pray for Canada and its future. And for sanity to prevail therein…
— Spero
carol says
Goldy outdid herself here. All Canadians head to freedomtooffend.com and sign the petition. Americans may be vulnerable also – check beginning around 32:42 for Mr. Spencer’s discussion about Hillary Clinton and supreme court justices and FREE SPEECH and how we “dodged the bullet” with Trump. Rather shockingly he says YOU could have kissed the First Amendment goodbye:
Robert Spencer on the Jihad Against the Freedom of Speech https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTjmk2F7qUo&spfreload=10#t=490.938441
carol says
Goldy outdid herself here. All Canadians head to freedomtooffend.com and sign the petition. Americans may be vulnerable also – check beginning around 32:42 for Mr. Spencer’s discussion about Hillary Clinton and supreme court justices and FREE SPEECH and how we “dodged the bullet” with Trump. Rather shockingly he says YOU could have kissed the First Amendment goodbye:
Robert Spencer on the Jihad Against the Freedom of Speech https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTjmk2F7qUo&spfreload=10#t=490.938441
Guest says
And those leftists idiots are probably going to say this was a right extremist
gravenimage says
Canada: Gunmen screaming “Allahu akbar” open fire in mosque, murdering multiple people
……………………….
How likely is it that Infidels would scream “Allahu Akbar!”?
C T says
Highly unlikely, especially because two of them got caught. If you’re trying to frame Muslims for violence, you can’t get caught because then the whole frame-up doesn’t work.
Custos Custodum says
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/quebec-city-mosque-gun-shots-1.3957686
Quebec City Police have now had the suspect in custody for over three hours, and the Canadian government has known their identity since then.
If the two suspects had been non-Muslims, Shiny Pony Trudeau and the CBC would have shouted the news from the rooftops.
SP’s silence speaks loudly. One must conclude that the perpetrators are – once again – Muslims.
Once again, the ugly truth is being held back to perpetuate the lie that innocent Muslims were slaughtered by evil “Islamophobic” Canadians, perhaps even – gasp! – Christians.
Lucia Bartoli says
I’m past caring — just because some of us believe that the muslim community ought to rise up with one voice – loud & clear – to condemn strongly the actions of their brotherhood of faith. Btw, a peaceful muslim is, according to Big Mo, an “unfaithful Muslim.” Call me an islamophobe all you want — then ask me if I care . I’m also done with all of this fake political correctness!
JIMJFOX says
“rise up with one voice”– and THAT would be taqiyya…
Carol says
Well it’s kind of funny that people would say that it wouldn’t be a muslim attacking muslim, for one I was just talking to a muslim about this and he does not share the same views, he says it’s actually quite possible and then to say just because they had french accents it can’t be a muslim? Maybe they were born there and picked up the accent is a possibility and anyone can be a muslim, you can be Chinese, German, Russian and be a muslim, muslim is a religion not a race.
CrossWare says
That must have been Muslims because when three Canadian comes together the only thing they can do is to establish a committee and vote on a strongly worded letter where the word please at least ten times inserted.
PRCS says
“CBC NEWS: Sources report Quebec mosque shooting suspects are Bashir Al-Taweed and Hassan Matti. Shouted Allahu Ackbar before opening fire.”
Probably not Presbyterians.
marc says
PRCS says
January 30, 2017 at 12:58 am
“CBC NEWS: Sources report Quebec mosque shooting suspects are Bashir Al-Taweed and Hassan Matti. Shouted Allahu Ackbar before opening fire.”
Have you got a source link for that?
davej says
Link?
RichardL says
Fake news
john spielman says
no! I heard on CBC at 0700 eastern time that one of the attackers was Morrocan!
PRCS says
And they apparently entered Canada “as refugees last week”.
Dag says
Where is your link?
Porky The Crusader says
https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/5qyfqw/canadian_police_scanner_the_two_suspects_are/
worldcitizen1919 says
I hope we never stoop to that level. I think so far westerners can hold their heads high for not retaliating in like manner. I hope we never become like that.
RichardL says
It would indeed be terrible for our cause, if this was done by non-Muslims. The other side needs only ONE event like this. It would be milked until eternity and islam could perpetrate any atrocity it wants and the islamophobia law would sail through parliament?
DFD says
worldcitizen1919 says: “… can hold their heads high…”
Yeah, makes it easier to cut them off!
Wellington says
As I wrote some time ago at JW, there are four givens in life: 1) death; 2) taxes; 3) Muslims killing non-Muslims; and 4) Muslims killing other Muslims.
4) is preferable to 3) and both 3) and 4) overlap with 1).
Eric Jones says
This is the crop from the seeds Trudea has planted. Can Trudeau be impeached?
Eric
marc says
google translated
One of the two men arrested in connection with the terrorist attack in a Quebec mosque would be of Quebec origin and the other would be of Arab origin, according to information obtained by Félix Séguin from our Investigative Office. One of the two suspects would be 27 years old, according to TVA News. The two men, detained by the police, are to be questioned shortly. The suspects entered the mosque in Sainte-Foy shortly after 7:30 pm, at which time the prayer began.
from
http://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2017/01/30/qui-sont-les-suspects-derriere-la-fusillade-a-quebec
Sassy says
Two men arrested, One is an ARAB !!
davej says
The Case of the Too Moderate Mosque?
Meanwhile, in celebrity news:
http://pagesix.com/2017/01/29/simon-helberg-protests-immigration-ban-at-sag-awards/?_ga=1.215693205.325714047.1483057173The
Gwen says
Possibly a rival mosque; this is a clip from Vlad Tepesblog YT from the attacked mosque Facebook page mentioning the tension: https://youtu.be/eAbpiNQyTUs
Michael Johnson says
Yea Muslims are being real mature like that’s gonna make trump change his mind
Baucent says
“Diversity is our strength?” Really Mr Trudeau?
Too early to call this as a Jihadi attack, but it has the hallmarks of one. Masked attackers, use of an AK47, the mandatory “Allahu Akbhar” announcement. Some news organizations have not revealed the “Allahu Akbhar” bit.
Kay says
Good grief! Their omissions risk everyone’s safety. It ought to be criminal!
carol says
And once again virtue-signalling Justin is there with the tearful histrionics telling all Canadians (even those old enough to be his great grandparents) “This is WHO we are as Canadians!” Guess he thinks papa Pierre’s cachet lends weight to his golden nuggets.
Fromafar says
This is on Geller’s site. If true…..a “False Flag”?
http://9502-presscdn-0-95.pagely.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/Screen-Shot-2017-01-29-at-11.45.22-PM.png
Elton says
Also heard one assailant had a French last name so who knows? Lots (most?) of western homegrown converts change their western names to Muslim ones.
Benedict says
The leftists including the PM of Canada will not agree that they were muslims who killed the other muslims in the mosque. Welcome to Canada land of the left
Andi says
The mosque is AHMADIYAH mosque, the most HATED & PERSECUTED islamic sect in muslim world especially by SUNNI MUSLIMS Majority.. And the two shooters have been apprehended by police and seemingly they are SUNNI MUSLIM refugees from SYRIA.
Mike T says
Regardless who did this, and whatever their motivation, the act is to be condemned. Period. There can be no justification.
Robert DuPaul says
If done by non Muslims this is no different than the criminal acts done by ISIS and will only harm efforts to keep thousands of unscreened reffugees out of Western nations!
vladkoval says
alt-muslims
duh swami says
It may take authorities months to figure out the motive…
Ian from Liverpool says
My best guess is a couple of peace loving tolerant Sunni Muslims peacefully eradicating a minority muslim sect deemed Kuffar!. Mosque attacks by Muslims maybe a new thing here in the west but it’s common enough in muslim countries such as Pakistan or Iraq. But at this time islamophobia is being subtly inferred by SkyNews with some story about a previous “Attack” with a pighead.
Alpo. Yksikivi says
By the numbers most of the muslims are non-violent … until they are not. Somehow they manage to become either “radicalized” or “self-radicalized” or “quick-radicalized” or they can be “latently susceptible to radicalization”, those are just a few descriptions that the I have picked from the “free” and “objective” press, mostly used by the officials who try to belittle the holy work of an muslim attacker or the threat of Islam in general.
The grip of Islam is extremely strong because the brainwash starts even before toddlers are able to understand words and there quite frankly is never much to wash as the IQ gap is so great. Anybody with such amount of brainpower, who is under constant oppression and surveillance from their “priest”, neighbors and family, and is banging his head to the floor tile five times a day everyday, can easily go mad. And they do, all the time. The larger the bunch is at any given location/area the more there are these madmen, obviously. But also, the more brutal are their holy work as every muslim terrorist try outperform the other.
carol says
Alpo…Kudos to you! it takes a genius to simplify things and make everything clear the way you have!
Dustin says
Moslems kill Moslems. Blame the Christians!
Angemon says
Is there a sizeable muslim population in Quebec?
billybob says
From what I’ve read, it is “rapidly increasing”, whatever that means. It seems a lot from French speaking Morocco and Algeria. This would be to bolster the Francophone population. Quebec has an obsessive concern about preserving their language. Bringing in these French speaking immigrants may have seemed like a wonderful idea in that light, but it may have caused a lot of friction and resentment with the mainly Roman Catholic indigent Quebecois.
billybob says
Reading first guesses above that it may be Sunni against Shia, I found the mosque’s website in an attempt to determine what branch of Islam it was. I found a list of names of members of the Shura Council. Among the names are two ending in “Ali”. The remainder looked like Sunni names, for all I know. Would any Sunni call himself “Ali” though? I don’t think so. Therefore, this may be a Shia mosque, and in my mind, raises the possibility it was Sunni against Shia violence.
http://www.icqmontreal.com/shura.html
Baucent says
It’s noticeable that the media is linking the attack to Trumps ban of some migrants from some nations, when there is no evidence of any link.
The attackers could be either muslims or non-muslims at this stage. It is not unusable for Jihadist to target a mosque if they have an issue with the Imam, or if those attending make up an minority sect. Happens in Iraq, Pakistan and Nigeria frequently.
Anything is possible right now, if they are “ethnic Canadians” it is also possible they are converts to Islam.
Yaffle says
Can you imagine Trudeau ever condemning a “terrorist attack on infidels”?
moeped says
My sentiments exactly. Trudeau said: “terrorist attack on Muslims”. Has he ever characterized any other terrorist attack in this manner? Most of the time they avoid this kind of language at all costs. Just another example of special status.
Paul Marlo says
They would love if it was cross wearing attacker named Thomas or Christian so they could play victim and blame “islamophobia”. The chances of it being so are about as big as seeing a unicorn because it simply doesnt happen. But I make the following prediction if muslims do not stop with their violent extremism then one day they might kill the wrong persons child, some ex military mans child and this may very well trigger a violent response such as this. I do not condone it nor call for it but I understand perfectly why such actions may come about. Muslims cannot expect to kill Christians without a response.!
scherado says
Yes, and with respect to one of Mr. Spencer’s interpretations, it would be rendered: “pro-Muslim hate crime”®™; I dare any Leftist to argue against this formulation.
lolwut? says
Both of them are probably Moroccans
Quebec has been importing people from former French colonies for decades
so it’s very possible they have the accent.
Gary Devouges says
I wonder why we still do not know their names.
moeped says
If this is an Ahmadiyya mosque, then the story should be about religious divisions and the fact that Canada is a hotbed of radical islamism / islamic supremicism, which it most certainly is.
kessler says
If it turns out that the perpetrators were Muslim and that they acted upon those they consider infidels – do you think the Canadian government will let the truth out or is the system so corrupt that they can get away with fabricating a “white supremacist” lie?
I have little faith in the media and governments these days…
Ian H says
If this was an Ahmadiyya mosque then they would probably have been celebrating ‘Jalsa Salana’, a big annual event unique to the Ahmadiyya celebrated around the world this weekend. They would probably have had a larger than usual crowd. The timing of the attack to coincide with Jalsa Salana suggests to me that this is almost certainly a jihad attack by Muslims.
Those who view Ahmadiyya as apostate would most likely prefer to attack a celebration unique to Ahmadiyya rather than some Islamic religious festival also celebrated by other Muslims. If it was a generic anti-Musllim hate crime I doubt the attackers would have known about Jalsa Salana or bothered to time their attack to coincide with it.
Keith Gilbert says
islamics killing islamics…again, where is the down side? I wonder whether the islamic shooter(s) need more guns and ammo…plenty here in the US that can be had for such doings. Yes, a charitable moment…islamics kill islamics, liberals cry and cringe and there is much for the rest of US to celebrate. On the down side, they are really not very efficient and at this rate it will take too long to rid ourselves and Canada oaf the evil things, islamic things!
Renee says
Mosques in The Netherlands close their doors, because of the “islamophobic” attack in Quebeq.
JawsV says
Canadian Police Scanner: “The two suspects are Bashir al-Taweed and Hassan Matti, Syrians who entered Canada as refugees last week.”
Re-posted from Comment above.
marc says
@JawsV
“Canadian Police Scanner: “The two suspects are Bashir al-Taweed and Hassan Matti, Syrians who entered Canada as refugees last week.”
This is fake, no names were released yet.
Pers says
This is just another example how people is getting tired and fed up with this huge Islamic invasion into the country, Trudeau’s have kidnaped Canada and he is opened the gates to all the Islamic world with out no control in how many will arrived into the country, This is madness he is just doing the same as A. Merkel is doing to Germany, You can not impose into people an invasion of muslims and their terrible intolerant and violent ideology, Canada belongs to Canadians and it laws, not to Trudeau’s liberal party, and its Immigration minister how is also a muslim, coincidence ?
carol says
Uh oh…looks like Trudeau just took over. The suspect is a “right-wing troll” (linked to Trump of course):
The suspect in the deadly attack on a Quebec City mosque was known in the city’s activist circles as a right-wing troll who frequently took anti-foreigner and anti-feminist positions and stood up for U.S. President Donald Trump.
Mr. Bissonnette’s online profile and school friendships revealed little interest in extremist politics until last March when French nationalist leader Marine Le Pen visited Quebec City and inspired Mr. Bissonnette to vocal extreme online activism, according to people who clashed with him.
No motive has yet been given for the attack.
carol says
Excerpt from:
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/quebec-city-mosque-attack/article33826078/
Florida Jim says
Deport all muslims everywhere they cannot assimilate and teach hated to three year-olds.
William says
The historical records show the lands occupied by Mohammedans resemble one described by Thomas Hobbes, all against all in perpetual warfare. The evidence is undeniable.
Bill says
Mr. Spencer, enough with your Takiya tactics and whitewashing Islamic terrorists. It is time that everybody knows that your ancestors were Muslim and you are nothing more than a dirty Muslim who is hiding behind the mask of takiya. All acts of terrorism are performed by Muslims. Period. All Muslims are Terrorists. Period. All who claim not be Muslim and do not say that i say above about Muslims are Muslims doing Takiya. Period.
Andrew Halmay says
Always look for a positive element in any disastrous situation. Whoever it was that did the shooting, let’s be thankful it was in a mosque and not in a church or synagogue.
Phil Copson says
The police and the politicians were remarkably quick to describe this as “terrorism” ?
So, the rule is that if Muslims are the victims, it’s “terrorism” – absolutely no question about it, but if non-Muslims are killed by Muslims, then it isn’t ?
Lioness says
One of the suspects’s name is Mohammad Khadir, a muslim from Morocco. The other is a convert to islam. So much for” islamophobia”.
unoriginal username says
Alexandre Bissonette and Mohammed Khadir are the suspects.
How did you find out the other is a convert to islam? I had guessed as much but couldn’t find it anywhere. Just like Aaron Driver, another convert.
In London ON, last summer, there was a supposed “hate crime” where one woman began yelling at another one, who was wearing a hijab, in a grocery store, and the Communist Broadcasting Corporation (CBC) was all over it. Came to light later that the one who started yelling, when she went to court, required a Farsi translator, and the story was dropped tout de suite.
Luke says
But wait. Trudeau is jumping to the adoring defence of Muslims. They were the perps too stoopid!
eternal vigilance says
To the effete elite flyover Proglibs…..This is what intertribal conflict looks like in the mid-east! Sunni vs. Shis; Sunni vs. Kurd; ISIS vs. Kurds…Always thru the centuries and you want to invite these tribalists into the USA?
Renee says
After all it was a hate crime towards muslims in prayer. Very sad, very wrong.
carol says
Yes, the “prayers” are very wrong.
tbb says
Sorry, this article was clearly a rush to judgement before the details came out.
It now appears that only one gunman was charged, and it is being reported that he is a far right nationalist.
You might want to be a little more careful in the future Robert.
Phil Copson says
“The shooters could be “Islamophobes” who screamed “Allahu akbar” mockingly. Or they could be Muslims who were firing upon other Muslims…..”
Sorry, this article was clearly a rush to judgement……..only one gunman was charged, and it is being reported that he is a far right nationalist.”
“You might want to be a little more careful in the future Robert.”
Why should he “want to be a little more careful” ? Try reading Robert’s very first words! “The shooters could be “Islamophobes”……”. Robert acknowledged that possibility in his first comment. The man was setting out the options, not claiming cast-iron knowledge of the perpetrator !
(Personally, I have a great dislike of being taken to task over things that I didn’t say, by people who haven’t bothered to read what I actually wrote, so on this occasion I shall use up some indignation on Mr Spencer’s behalf.)
Keith Gilbert says
The shooter appears to be a handsome young white man with blue eyes…Canada has no death penalty so after a bit of inconvenience the young man will be brought forth as a national hero who saw the islamic threat and acted. Now, a ‘go fund me’ account needs to be set up for him on facebook and such.
gravenimage says
You may want to see people screaming “Allahu Akbar!” and mowing people down–those of us who actually value our civilized societies *do not*.
Keith Gilbert says
Just a bit of ‘turn around’ on the islamic filth. They are the great deceivers, now deceiving them is good sport if it eliminates the lot of them. islam, the evil face of evil…just a passing fad in the history of the world. It’s time to turn off the free food…let them eat their own if the plan was to out breed the competition. Such a vile lot…all of them. Our ‘civilized society’ was lost the moment the islamics were allowed among us…killing every one of them is the ‘only’ solution.