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Canada: Muslim principal instructs that homosexuals are “cursed by Allah”

Jan 16, 2017 4:55 pm By Christine Douglass-Williams

Farrah Marfatia is the principal of a Muslim academy in Mississauga, near Toronto, Ontario. She is teaching parents in her guide  “To Talk To Your Muslim Child” that:

The Prophet [Mohammad] ﷺ told us that homosexuals are cursed by Allah as are the men who imitate or dress up like women.

The formal meaning of being cursed by Allah is stated in Lisān al-ʿArab (the Arab Tongue), aka “the most well-known dictionary of the Arabic language”:

Everyone whom Allah has cursed is far away from His mercy and deserves punishment, so he is doomed.

Also, a 2014 fatwa from the mainstream site OnIslam.net proclaimed that homosexuality is “abnormal” and abhorrent,” and confirmed that gays should be killed:

The punishment for men or women who are unwilling to give up homosexuality and therefore are rejecting the guidance of Allah Most High is in fact death according to Islam.

Death fatwas upon homosexuals are still pronounced in Islamic states and by other Muslim scholars who preach in the West. A mainstream imam in the backyard of the Pulse Nightclub commanded the merciful killing of gays “as an act of compassion,” not long before the jihad massacre.

Marfatia’s deceitful warnings in her guide about homosexuals being protected by Canadian law seem to be intended to protect herself from charges that she is inciting Muslims to violence. Yet as she teaches that homosexuals are “cursed by Allah,” she knows full well that Islamic law prescribes death for homosexuals, and that the Sharia principles that she is teaching about homosexuals are deemed to override all other laws:

The source of legal rulings for all acts of those who are morally responsible is Allah.” (a1.1, Umdat al-salik or The Reliance of the Traveller, commonly accepted work of
Shariah jurisprudence); “There is only one law which ought to be followed, and that is the Sharia.” (Seyed Qutb).

Farrah Marfatia, interestingly, happens to be one of the Muslims who united “with Muslim community leaders, educators, activists and concerned citizens” in a witch-hunt against a public school principal for alleged “Islamophobia.”

Marfatia was one of the signatories in an open letter to Ontario’s Ministry of Education that accused Ghada Sadaka, principal of Sir Wilfrid Laurier Public School in Markham, of “Islamophobia.” Sadaka had expressed her opinion in a factual way on her Facebook page. She ended up being made an example of what happens to so-called “Islamophobes” if they dare even voice rational opinions about Islamic supremacy. When Muslims ganged up to bully Sadaka, she was distressed enough to take a leave of absence, and issued an unwarranted apology.

So while Sadaka is harassed by Muslim groups for Facebook posts, Farrah Marfatia is getting away with providing a guide to parents that instructs them to teach their children that homosexuals are cursed by Allah, knowing full well what the implications of that are in her religion. What will the Ontario Ministry of Education do about that?

“Toronto principal: ‘Homosexuals are cursed by Allah’, LGBTQ ‘not permissible'”, by: Jonathan D. Halevi, CIJ News, January 15, 2017:

Farrah Marfatia, M.Ed. (Candidate), Honors B.Sc., RAQC, TESL, is the Principal of Maingate Islamic Academy who is “partnering with a number of Muslim organizations on community projects.”

On October 31, 2016, alongside with Muslim community leaders, educators, activists and concerned citizens, Farrah Marfatia signed an open letter to Mitzie Hunter, Ontario’s Minister of Education, that implicitly referred to the Islamophobia allegations against Ghada Sadaka, a principal of Sir Wilfrid Laurier Public School in Markham, ON (See in this regard “Are Ghada Sadaka’s Facebook posts “Islamophobic”, “discriminatory”? Click HERE). Among other things the open letter reads the following:

We join the parents who are deeply concerned about the mental and physical wellbeing of their children…As you are aware, the lack of transparency and accountability with regards to their investigation and any actions they may have undertaken to address the unprofessional and hateful statements was even profiled by various media outlets.

This is deeply troubling. This is especially disturbing when contextualized within the growing incidents of Islamophobia within society… All children, staff and teachers are entitled to a safe, inclusive & accepting school environment free from fear and hate.

A year earlier, Farrah Marfatia, authored a guide entitled “To Talk To Your Muslim Child” which provided parents with advice and tools to cope with topics in the Ontario Ministry of Education’s Health Education Curriculum (2015) also known as the sex-ed curriculum. The 1st Edition of the guide was edited by Sheikh Zahir Bacchus, Sheikh Omar Subedar, Imam Belal Ahmad, B.Ed., OCT, Omar Zia, B.Sc., B.Ed., M.Ed., OCT, Bushra Tobah, Ph.D. (candidate), M.Sc., B.Sc. And Rizwan Wadhera, B.Ed., B.A, OCT.

In an interview with the Toronto Star’s Noor Javed (September 7, 2015), Farrah Marfatia said that the guide was reviewed and approved by “counsellors and teachers in the public system” as well as Muslims community leaders. The following are excerpts from the interview:
As an Islamic school principal, private schools are not required to cover the curriculum. But there are a lot of Muslim kids in the public school system…And I was thinking about those parents — how do I help public school parents who have no other choice to understand the curriculum from their religious point of view?

I reached out to guidance counsellors and teachers in the public system, and they reviewed it and gave it their stamp of approval. And then, from a religious perspective, I consulted with three imams. One of the imams is also a certified teacher. We had a number of meetings, and they gave me their views from a religious perspective. Overall, about 20 people reviewed it… I am so proud of our community leaders because they have backed it up, and see value in it.

The following are excerpts from the Farrah Marfatias guide “To Talk To Your Muslim Child”:

Grade 8

Pornography

Children are encouraged to avoid shows, cartoons, movies, and advertisements that allude, even subtly, to mixed gender relationships…
Dating and Liking the Opposite Sex

As an Ummah, we must begin rethinking the notion that children need to grow up, finish school, obtain multiple degrees, have an excellent job and then get married. By that point, our youth have probably succumbed to a number of temptations given our pornographic society. Parents should consider getting their children married earlier which will ease this pressure. Youth will not have to stop their studies to do this. Remember, as a parent you will also be partly responsible if your son or daughter wanted to marry, you stopped them and they ended up having sex outside of marriage…

Sex and Reproduction

Sex is a beautiful, pleasurable, and permissible act only for those who are married.

Abstinence and Consent

From a religious point of view it is important that you begin talking to your child about abstaining from dating relationships and intercourse…

Sexual Orientation

In terms of Homosexuality, it is considered to be a sin in all major monotheistic religions including Islam. The Prophet [Mohammad] ﷺ told us that homosexuals are cursed by Allah as are the men who imitate or dress up like women. This must be communicated to your child in a way that is age appropriate bearing in mind that the rights of homosexuals are protected by law just as our rights to freedom of religion are as well.

For Grade 7 and 8 it can be discussed as follows:

In Islam only a man can marry a woman and only a woman can marry a man–we are not allowed to marry people of the same gender. When people engage in same-sex relationships they go against the natural disposition (fitrah) of human beings and are unable to reproduce.

Intersex and Transgender

Islam accepts intersex individuals because Allah created them anatomically that way and there is no sin on them for being this way…
Being transgender is not permissible in Islam because choosing to imitate the opposite sex in movements and speech is not permissible in Islam according to saheeh hadeeths [reliable narrations attributed to Mohammad]… for them there is no sin in Islam to be Intersex and there are clear rules and regulations to help them choose their correct sex. Islam accepts them.

However, all other members of the LGBTQ community make a choice to ‘feel’ that way despite the fact that Allah did not create them that way. This is why it is not permissible…

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  1. G.Man says

    Jan 16, 2017 at 5:04 pm

    Maybe that will make them stop sodomising little boys.

    • Dan says

      Jan 16, 2017 at 7:49 pm

      Not bloody likely.

      Boys are like “Scattered pearls.”

      And a nephew of mine who served over in Afghanistan said the men there have a saying. “Girls are for (making) babies and boys are for pleasure.

      And then there was that whole kerfuffle last year, about soldiers kicking the snot out of Muslim cops and soldiers who were raping little boys all the time. (That sure has been swept under the rug.)

      Besides, pedophilia is not the same as homosexual.

      But those Bachi tea boys are up there in age enough so you don’t know if its pedophilia, or homosexual.

      It’s so blasted confusing when we allow hypocrisy.

      Like, since Trudope said you can’t be a member of his cabinet unless you’re pro abortion, is he going to boot any Muslims out of the party if they’re anti gay?

      Looks like he’s kind of between that rock and a hard place, that only full blown hypocrites ever manage to slime out of.

      • bernie says

        Jan 18, 2017 at 10:21 pm

        True. I have heardvthat in Canada, Christians have gotten in trouble for quoting Torah and Gospel scriptures deemed to be anti-gay. Also, I understand that foreign Christian groups which are virulently antigay, such as the Westborob BaptistvChurch from thecUnited States, are notcallowed to enter Canada. So, why should Muslim groups who dobthe same thing get a free pass?

    • gravenimage says

      Jan 16, 2017 at 8:14 pm

      Don’t count on it. Muslims only seem to have a problem with consensual homosexual sex between adults. Pedophilia and rape are fine.

  2. Champ says

    Jan 16, 2017 at 5:07 pm

    The irony: allah is satan and is “cursed” by God! ..back atcha allah! 😀

  3. davej says

    Jan 16, 2017 at 5:36 pm

    I like the way that, after condemning gays “cursed by Allah”, she conflates their (possibly temporary) protection under the law with the absolute protection of her freedom of religion – to curse gays.

  4. Glenn Wilson says

    Jan 16, 2017 at 5:38 pm

    Islam has been cursed by God because the Muslims follow a false prophet and worship the antichrist.

    • Elena Palatini says

      Jan 17, 2017 at 7:49 am

      It is just do.
      Arrogance is not only a way to existe under the “religious freedom”.

  5. SafeTea says

    Jan 16, 2017 at 5:50 pm

    Actually, Allah loves homosexuality as well as all other sins. God, however, despises them.

    • ECAW says

      Jan 17, 2017 at 2:38 am

      If God despises homosexuality why did he make it?

      • PRCS says

        Jan 17, 2017 at 4:03 am

        Excellent question!

        Can be used for anything he/she/it doesn’t like.

        Pigs, dogs, paintings/drawings of people/animals, etc.

      • Elena Palatini says

        Jan 17, 2017 at 8:12 am

        He did NOT .

  6. Kepha says

    Jan 16, 2017 at 6:18 pm

    The Bible also clearly condemns homosexuality–along with a whole lot of other human behaviors–and says it’s among things which are worthy of death (being implacable and unmerciful are a couple others–Rom. 1:31-32). Since I’m quoting Paul here, I’m very much aware that Paul was never in any position to mete out a death sentence to anyone, and later on suffered it for not worshiping the Roman emperor.

    Of course, Paul spoke clearly of homosexuals (and other sinners) changing due to the application of Christ’s grace by the Holy Spirit. But his words are self-evidently “hate speech”, while Islam’s determination to hasten the homosexual on his way to Hell is apparently still legitimate “diversity”.

    Nobody can devoutly read the Bible without feeling morally challenged somewhere. Maybe that’s why so many people hate it, yet at the same time, affirm and respect the Qur’an.

    • billybob says

      Jan 16, 2017 at 8:26 pm

      “Nobody can devoutly read the Bible without feeling morally challenged somewhere.”

      No challenge at all, if you read it through the lens provided by Christ’s teachings and example. Then everything will click into place.

    • PRCS says

      Jan 17, 2017 at 4:04 am

      Good point.

    • Elena Palatini says

      Jan 17, 2017 at 7:57 am

      The one problem..is but that there is a greatest difference between Our Bibel and your Coran/Quran.
      If you Know each …you Will be saved!
      Good be with you/goodbye.

  7. billybob says

    Jan 16, 2017 at 6:21 pm

    “Children are encouraged to avoid shows, cartoons, movies, and advertisements that allude, even subtly, to mixed gender relationships…”

    This is very damaging to the hope a Muslim child may integrate with Canadian culture. In Canada, men and women work together. In order to work together effectively, they need to socialize beginning at an early age and continue socializing on through adulthood. Anybody who is not so socialized will be unproductive in any Canadian work environment because they will not know how to relate to the opposite sex.

    • abad says

      Jan 16, 2017 at 7:43 pm

      Precisely why Muslim males (they are not now nor will they ever be men) treat females so disdainfully while they hump goats.

      Islam is all about sexual perversion in itself so they have NO room to talk about homosexuality. With their pedophile prophet. Perverts.

    • Elena Palatini says

      Jan 17, 2017 at 8:06 am

      Muslims couldn’t be integrated For many other reasons.
      You must admit that the “sex mixed relathionships” have been rejected ELSE by western /Christian /civility.

  8. Johan elzinga says

    Jan 16, 2017 at 7:08 pm

    Schools like this should be closed immediately. It should be possible for ex students to claim financial damages from teachers who willingly took part to abuse them psychologically like this. For a child to grow up like this it is comparable to torture. Being gay is not a choice, being transgender is not a choice. You are born like that.

  9. eur says

    Jan 16, 2017 at 8:58 pm

    Any religion that says that things should be banned .. I do not care if it is Christianity, Judaism, Hinduism, Islam … Those religions must be reformed or banned for inciting hatred.

    • Elena Palatini says

      Jan 17, 2017 at 8:10 am

      Religion hater….focus on being animal not human.

  10. gravenimage says

    Jan 16, 2017 at 9:02 pm

    Canada: Muslim principal instructs that homosexuals are “cursed by Allah”
    ……………………….

    “Cursed by Allah”–and frequently murdered by Muslims, as Farrah Marfatia no doubt knows all too well.

  11. mortimer says

    Jan 17, 2017 at 12:47 am

    What Sharia law says about punishing homosexuals: flogging, stoning, thrown from high place, wall pushed over to crush, burning to death
    Homosexuality is not only a sin, but a crime under Islamic law.
    – Islam Question and Answer says: “The crime of homosexuality is one of the greatest of crimes, the worst of sins and the most abhorrent of deeds, and Allaah punished those who did it in a way that He did not punish other nations. It is indicative of violation of the fitrah, total misguidance, weak intellect and lack of religious commitment, and it is a sign of doom and deprivation of the mercy of Allaah.”
    – In the Hanafi school of thought, the homosexual is first punished through harsh beating, and if he/she repeats the act, the death penalty is to be applied.
    – In the Shafi`i school of thought, the homosexual receives the same punishment as adultery (if he/she is married) or fornication (if not married). This means, that if the homosexual is married, he/she is stoned to death, while if single, he/she is whipped 100 times. Hence, the Shafi`i compares the punishment applied in the case of homosexuality with that of adultery and fornication.
    – In the Hanafi school, the two acts are differentiated, because anal sex [something that is prohibited, regardless of orientation] may also be involved, while in adultery [and fornication], the penis/vagina (which are reproductive parts) are involved.
    – Some scholars hold the opinion that homosexuals should be thrown from a high building or stoned to death as a punishment for their crime, but other scholars maintain that they should be imprisoned until death occurs through starvation.
    -Some of them (Islamic jurists) said that he should be punished in the same way as an adulterer, so he should be stoned if he is married and flogged if he is not married.
    -Another view is that between two males, the active partner is to be lashed a hundred times if he is unmarried, and killed if he is married; whereas the passive partner is to be killed regardless of his marital status.
    -Abd-Allaah ibn ‘Abbaas said: The highest point in the town should be found and the homosexual should be thrown head first from it, then stones should be thrown at him.
    Ibn ‘Abbaas derived this hadd punishment from the punishment that Allaah sent upon the homosexuals of the people of Loot.
    – It is narrated from Khaalid ibn al-Waleed that he found a man among one of the Arab tribes with whom men would have intercourse as with a woman. He wrote to Abu Bakr al-Siddeeq (may Allaah be pleased with him) and Abu Bakr al-Siddeeq consulted the Sahaabah (may Allaah be pleased with them). ‘Ali ibn Abi Taalib had the strongest opinion of all of them, and he said: “No one did that but one of the nations, and you know what Allaah did to them. I think that he should be burned with fire.” So Abu Bakr wrote to Khaalid and he had him burned.

  12. No Fear says

    Jan 17, 2017 at 4:03 am

    According to Mishkat Al Masabih, Volume II Book XXVI- Fitan and Sahih al-Bukhari Hadith Number 2442 and Sahih al-Bukhari, Hadith Number 2393 (and many others) Mohammed was a cross dresser.

    Islam is a crock.

  13. FYI says

    Jan 17, 2017 at 7:42 am

    Apart from gay people … “allah” also hates… the Jews and the Christians.

    “May allah curse the Jews and Christians”
    Bukhari 1:8:427

    Since Moses,Elijah and Jesus Christ are JEWS,then I guess that would mean that they too are cursed by
    the commandment-violating “allah”.

    Just think how stupid “allah” is in relation to the True Biblical version Of God:All God’s prophets
    are Jewish(except mahomet who famously hated them*),Jesus is the Son of God and yet “allah” hates them all.The islamic “allah” is a fraud because God cannot possibly be either anti-Christian or anti-Jewish.How stupid is that??I mean that’s really,reallly dumb and surely muslims must see the idiocy of
    their “allah”(as opposed to the wisdom and greatness of the True Biblical version of God).

    *{“O Muslim!There is a Jew hiding behind me.Kill him”}
    Sahih Bukhari vol 4,book 52,number 177.

    Note that mahomet is happy to recommend the violation of God’s Sixth commandment revealed to mankind through Moses(…a Jew…).And mahomet is a “prophet”, right?One who disagrees with God’s commandments??Totally bogus…..

    • Elena Palatini says

      Jan 17, 2017 at 8:18 am

      ?

  14. Keith Jordan says

    Jan 17, 2017 at 7:58 am

    I still don’t understand how liberals can be in favor of sharia law.

    • gravenimage says

      Jan 17, 2017 at 2:21 pm

      Most of them don’t know jack sh*t about it–and don’t want to learn.

      • skep says

        Jan 17, 2017 at 3:17 pm

        Justin Trudeau apparently has no clue about islam.

  15. Troybeam says

    Jan 17, 2017 at 8:40 am

    Islam: Theocracy of Death. One thing is for certain in Islam break a rule any rule certain death will follow just a matter of how you die: stoning, beheading, set on fire, acid, tossed off a building, honor killing, Islam simply is a killing machine.

    • Kay says

      Jan 17, 2017 at 8:55 am

      yep, death and the fear of death

  16. Barry Donnelly says

    Jan 17, 2017 at 9:40 am

    I’m sure I’ve seen a few Muslim men including Imams wearing dresses !

    • skep says

      Jan 17, 2017 at 3:19 pm

      The men appear to be wearing soiled bed sheets down to the ankles.

  17. Shiit Khan says

    Jan 17, 2017 at 10:53 am

    Trudeau and his Muslim friend

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/16/world/americas/justin-trudeau-canada-aga-khan-ethics-investigation-mary-dawson.html?_r=0

    • gravenimage says

      Jan 17, 2017 at 11:56 pm

      I love your username–hilarious.

  18. ibrahim itace muhammed says

    Jan 17, 2017 at 11:35 am

    christine williams,the bible said the same thing on homosexuals and shall be put to death.what is the problem when islam said so?you may say the biblical verses are longer in use.it is ridiclous!!!

    • gravenimage says

      Jan 17, 2017 at 2:44 pm

      Muslim savage ibrahim itace muhammed wrote:

      christine (sic) williams,the (sic) bible (sic) said the same thing on homosexuals and shall be put to death.what (sic) is the problem when islam (sic) said so?you (sic) may say the biblical (sic) verses are longer in use.it (sic) is ridiclous!!! (sic)
      ………………………………

      Right now, muhammed is taking two completely contradictory tacks–the first, as here, is claiming that Christians are supposed to be just as barbaric as Muslims are, and that Christians are letting God down if they aren’t enslaving people, murdering apostates, and mass-slaughtering unbelievers.

      The second is that if Christians are truly forgiving, that they should have no problems with Muslims raping, enslaving, and butchering them.

      Really, the only consistency here is apologia for Muslim savagery–what a surprise…

    • bernie says

      Jan 18, 2017 at 7:42 am

      Ibrahim: the New Testament offers a paradigm for some leniency and forgiveness, for example when Jesus rescued the woman taken in adultery, who was about to be stoned to death.

      Another reason why the Torah had such harsh punishments (for example, stoning to death a man who was working on the Sabbath by gathering wood) was because in the story, God was directly and miraculously presenting himself to the Israelites (e.g. he had smote the Egyptians with plagues, parted the Red Sea, was sending manna from Heaven, was speaking audibly from a burning bush, and so on). So, the Israelites were completely without excuse for disobeying him.

      Please watch the video “Shariah Law Versus Mosaic Law” by David Wood. He explains these things in more depth. BTW, I realize that not all Muslims believe in Sharish Law, but many of them do.

  19. ninetyninepct says

    Jan 17, 2017 at 1:23 pm

    Islamophobia = the fear of being run over by a truck.

    In Justin’s cross country hugging tour, could somebody ask him why he supports and promotes importing this horrible cult?

    Farrah Marfatia is clearly violating all hate laws and must be arrested and charged. The Koran also meets all definitions of hate literature yet the NDP, Liberals and every level of Government ignore it. They are sending a clear message that Canadians can simply ignore those laws

  20. Angemon says

    Jan 17, 2017 at 2:09 pm

    The Prophet [Mohammad] ﷺ told us that homosexuals are cursed by Allah as are the men who imitate or dress up like women.

    Poor little muhammad, the schizo…

    • gravenimage says

      Jan 17, 2017 at 2:18 pm

      Yes, I’ve watched this video several times–a classic!

      • bernie says

        Jan 18, 2017 at 8:07 am

        An important thing to note: just because a ma wears makeup doesn’t mean he’s gay, and in fact most transvestite men are straight. I read a book by a glam rock star, who recalled when some bikers called him and his bandmates “fags”:

        “Let me tell you, I’ve never heard of a gay guy in glam metal, except for the late Freddie Mercury. It takes a real man to wear makeup. Plus, no biker has *ever* gotten as much pu**y as we have—and certainly not more beautiful. Have you ever seen most of those biker chicks? Skanky! We may have worn makeup and hair spray, but we were just as macho as anyone.”

        OK, so he uses some admittedly crude language, but his basic point is well-taken.

    • Kay says

      Jan 17, 2017 at 2:26 pm

      Brilliant

    • bernie says

      Jan 18, 2017 at 7:50 am

      It was more than “a few dozen British girls” who were groomed and gang-raped by Islamofascist males…it was hundreds and hundreds, up to 1400 it has been reported.

  21. Jack Holan says

    Jan 17, 2017 at 3:52 pm

    Farrah Matatia you are not worthy of my comment! May your house fall on your head.(translated from the Arabic saying)

  22. Steven Armstrong says

    Jan 17, 2017 at 4:30 pm

    The Holy Bible states that:

    Leviticus 18:22  Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

    Leviticus 20:13  If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

    1 Corinthians 6:9  Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,

    Jude 1:7  Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.

    Romans 1:24-32  Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:  (25)  Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.  (26)  For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:  (27)  And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.  (28)  And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;  (29)  Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,  (30)  Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,  (31)  Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:  (32)  Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

    Thus, the Bible is clear, homosexuality – all sex outsider of marriage between one man and one woman, actually – is a detestable thing. It, and various other practices, are sins worthy of death – and will result in death if persisted in (on the Day of Judgement it will mean eternal death).

    Revelation 22:15  For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.

    Still, there is time for such ones to repent of their wicked ways and leave these filthy sins behind:

    Luke 13:5  I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.

    1 Corinthians 6:11  And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.

    Mark 1:15  And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.

    • Jack Holan says

      Jan 17, 2017 at 8:10 pm

      I am not Christian, therefore to find a precept that may counter those you have laid out here are impossible to refute except for:
      My basic understanding of Christianity is that Christ died for all of Mankind’s Sin
      You believe in the basic good of Man (meant as Man and Woman).
      Therefore, you believe in the Salvation of all Mankind, murderers, so forth
      If a Man receives and believes in Him there is salvation for him here as in Heaven
      These precepts are Christian however though you mentioned the Tanach, the Tanach went through centuries of Rabbinical interpretation dissecting word by word, various meanings for ancient Hebrew words and Aramaic, assigning number values to letters, words, how many times a word is repeated. In other words its not as straight forward as think for either a Christian or Jew. Ask me if I embrace it No. but I don’t hate or discriminate. I don’t understand Churches and Synagogue that have created a normalcy. In any case to take a life as in Our very 1st 10 Laws there better have been no choice to someone’s physical survival

  23. ibrahim itace muhammed says

    Jan 17, 2017 at 5:32 pm

    gravenimage,the mad fanatical mithraist christian,you have not said any thing.you keep on posting those outdated gabages concocted by christian evangelist deceivers against islam for long,which people are now not interested to take.we debated with christian evangelist liars like sam shamoun,david or devil wood and we defeated them.visit such debates in the net,especially answering islam and answering christianity forums.

    • gravenimage says

      Jan 18, 2017 at 12:09 am

      The increasingly unhinged apologist for Muslim savagery ibrahim itace muhammed wrote:

      gravenimage,the (sic) mad fanatical mithraist (sic) christian,you (sic) have not said any thing.you (sic) keep on posting those outdated gabages (sic) concocted by christian (sic) evangelist deceivers against islam (sic) for long,which (sic) people are now not interested to take.
      ………………………………

      Actually, I didn’t link to that video by David Wood–Angemon did. Recently on another thread, muhammed was ranting about me when I had not even posted. Do all of us “filthy Infidels” look alike, or is poor muhammed just experiencing further mental disintegration? Terribly sad, in any case.

      More:

      we (sic) debated with christian (sic) evangelist liars like sam (sic) shamoun,david (sic) or devil wood (sic) and we defeated them.visit (sic) such debates in the net,especially (sic) answering islam (sic) and answering christianity (sic) forums.
      ………………………………

      Who is this “we”? Does ibrahim itace muhammed believe that he has debated David Wood personally? That seems unlikely. I do notice that he appears incapable of countering a single point Mr. Wood has made.

      And this should not surprise–generally, Muslims much prefer threats and violence to actual, reasoned debate.

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