And here he is in a photograph making the one-finger sign that signifies belief in the Islamic concept of tawhid, the absolute unity of the godhead.
He does appear to be mentally ill, and so of course the establishment propaganda media is treating as if it were solely a matter of a man who had mental health problems and snapped. But there is no reason to hold to a hard-and-fast either/or in this case or other cases where jihadis have been described as mentally ill. As Hugh Fitzgerald has often noted, Islam attracts the psychically marginal, as it provides both a justification and a purpose for their rage and bloodlust. The jury is still out on Esteban Santiago, and we may never know the whole story if he is a jihadi, since so many people are so intent on concealing such facts, but in any case there is strong reason to believe that there is a jihad component here.
And why wasn’t the FBI watching him, when he told them he was ISIS? Maybe they also assumed he was insane, or they didn’t care to pursue such matters while Obama was busying downplaying the Islamic State threat, or there are simply too many young men out there like Esteban Santiago. And more are arriving all the time.
“Fort Lauderdale Airport shooting suspect Esteban Santiago-Ruiz ‘told FBI he was forced to fight for ISIS,'” by Natalie Evans and Patrick Lion, Mirror, January 6, 2017:
The suspected gunman behind the bloody rampage at a Florida airport previously told the FBI he had been forced to fight for ISIS, it has been reported.
Esteban Santiago-Ruiz is being held on suspicion of killing five people after opening fire at a baggage reclaim area at Fort Lauderdale on Friday.
The 26-year-old, an Iraq veteran, was known to the FBI, according to CBS News.
He is believed to have walked into the FBI office in Anchorage last November and told agents he was being forced to fight for ISIS, sources told CBS.
It comes as his aunt, Maria Ruiz Rivera, claimed he was hospitalised with mental health issues after a tour of duty in Iraq five years ago.
She told newjersey.com: “He lost his mind.”
The aunt was reportedly visited by FBI agents while she was being interviewed by reporters at her home in Union City, New Jersey.
She said Santiago-Ruiz was happy after the recent birth of his son.
She told the website he “was happy with the kid” after the birth of the child last year.
“I don’t know why this happened,” she told them.
Santiago-Ruiz reportedly appeared alone in the Terminal 2 baggage claim area wearing a Star Wars shirt.
The suspect is believed to be from New Jersey, lived in Alaska for some time and had a concealed carry permit for his gun, American media reported.
Santiago-Ruiz reportedly had a history of mental problems and a criminal record with minor traffic violations.
In January last year, a domestic violence case saw him was charged with fourth-degree assault and property damage, the Daily Mail reported, but he settled the charges by “agreeing to unknown requirements”.
Santiago-Ruiz was said to be receiving treatment for his mental health after being contacted by the FBI when his employer in Alaska raised concerns about something he had said.
He most recently resided in Naples, the website said, but he lived in Anchorage from for two years until last year.
His girlfriend and child continued to live in the Alaskan city.
According to reports, Santiago-Ruiz flew into Fort Lauderdale and his handgun was in his checked bag.
His itinerary is said to have begun in Alaska before a connecting flight, reported as either Canada or Minneapolis.
Speaking on CNN, Florida Senator Marco Rubio, who had spoken with TSA officials today, said that Santiago-Ruiz may have become embroiled in an altercation on his flight.
“I know that was mentioned as a potential cause and they wanted to kind of look into that a little further and get to that point,” Senator Rubio said.
The shooting began just before 1pm local time.
On arrival in the baggage claim area Santiago-Ruiz collected his luggage before going into the men’s toilet to take out the weapon, Broward Commisioner Chip LaMarca reportedly tweeted.
Santiago-Ruiz, said to be an army reservist and wearing a blue Star Wars T-shirt, then came out firing….
Police said they would not comment on the shooter for now and what a possible motive could be for the massacre.
The FBI and local police are interviewing him.
Witnesses say he appeared to randomly target his victims during the shooting spree which has left at at least five people dead and many more injured….

Keith Gilbert says
Yes, the same one finger salute that obongo uses frequently…frankly, I prefer the middle finger salute for all islamics and their supporters…but that is just the ‘crude and vulgar’ me coming out.
Byzantium1683 says
Crüde and Vulgar and Damn Right.
Oh whatever, I should be happy somebody cares about vulgarity these days.
JOHNNIEMAC says
You are never crude or vulgar, that belongs to islam which I say I Slam
Bob Blackthorne says
The IMMEDIATE response to his having been “forced to watch isis videos” is BULLSH* These MUSLIM TERRORISTS have been INSTRUCTED to LIE, LIE, LIE to all “infidels,” then our stupid, liberal, idiots in the judiciary will feel soooo bad, they’ll call them innocent and just in need of love, hugging, campfires, singing Kum-Ba-Yah, and holding hands. BULLSH*T. SHOOT THIS POS! STOP the politically correct crap that is on the way to the DESTRUCTION of THIS country! KILL these foooockers on sight!
terry says
Bob B– I agree with you. How can an adult, UNLESS HELD CAPTIVE AGAINST HIS/HER WILL, be ” FORCED” to watch videos?
tom parry says
Heaven forbid if the FBI took away his right too bear arms,
Champ says
Fort Lauderdale Airport shooter had told FBI he was forced to fight for the Islamic State
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I’m glued to the tv right now where they’re covering this story and there’s been NO mention of this, yet …big surprise that the MSM would keep this critical piece of info on the lowdown!
Champ says
…or on the down low! 😉
Kathy Brown, Esq. says
Me too Champ; and nary a mention…
But today in Barnes and Noble I heard the PC version of this lowlife murderer. Incredibly: it was delivered by a skinny she-man who identified as ‘gay’.
At that time it had not yet broken that this lunatic felt obsessed by ISIS, so I stated that, if the shooter was NOT a muslim, that in itself should be front-page news. The reply: ‘No one should think most of these attacks are by muslims. Actually, more white men in the USA commit murder than anyone else!’.
I replied that of course more white people do more EVERYTHING in the US, since we’re 80% of the population. Dummy-face looked astonished (doubtless in his circles no one ever prefers an oppositional opinion). ‘But we’re not talking murder here, young man. We’re talking terrorist attacks. Do you know how many terrorist attacks there have been since 9/11? 45,000!’. To which girly-man responded, ‘That’s just the press. They publicize those attacks more!’.
I asked him if he was out of his mind. He didn’t reply. I then asked him if he was familiar with the treatment accorded to homosexuals under islamic law (he didn’t know what ‘sharia’ was). Again no answer; so I said ‘They KILL THEM. They throw them off rooftops. They hang them. And they’re so proud of that, they videotape it and post it on YouTube!’.
The fool looked absolutely shocked by this; his PC mask slipped for a moment. Then…crickets.
What a job there is to do here in this country! I don’t envy Pres. Trump. But if anybody can do it, he can. Which is why I pray for him daily. And I know I am not alone.
Champ says
Kudos, Kathy Brown!!! Thank you for sharing your story! Sadly, this guy probably represents the majority. Again, good job! ..and great story 🙂
byzantium1683 says
Unfortunately, he probably does. I see way too many people like him every day to be convinced that he is a anomaly.
Disgusting that this stupidity is possible, and that I, by myself, cannot correct what is obviously wrong.
Gail says
Kathy Brown,
Great shock therapy. Shock them out of their delusional state with truth shock therapy. Awesome job.
Cecilia Ellis says
Kathy, thanks for the great story! What I would have given to have observed this exchange between you two! ?
Hope you and your family had a blessed Christmas and Happy New Year!
mortimer says
Thanks, Kathy. They are delusional. When I point out the facts to people they resist them tooth and nail.
They are not paying attention. They don’t understand that jihad is a DUTY incumbent on all Muslims.
Daniel Sebold says
Okay, Kathy so you have proven you don’t like “girly” men. But I am a little confused, this guy is a Puerto Rican Roman Catholic American Iraqi war veteran who claims that ISIS made him do it? Is he a Muslim or a Christian or both? Why is it that the FBI never acts on these cases? I think it’s because terrorism against the American people is a form of crowd control. I sound like a conspiracy theorist, but all the evidence from past cases seem to point to the government wanting us to live in fear so that we are more preoccupied with our own safety than of the corporations and banks looting the treasury and medicaid and soon to be social security.
j_not_a says
The FBI never does anything about these cases because it has been castrated by Obama. He ordered a while back that all FBI training materials be scrubbed of all references to islam, muslims, jihad, terror, etc. To Obama’s twisted way of thinking, if it isn’t mentioned or talked about, it doesn’t exist. Muslims are peaceful, he insists. Jihad is just an inner struggle for moral purity. He has in all likelihood specifically ordered the FBI to NEVER pursue the jihad angle in all of these muslim mass shootings. But, strangely enough, these invariably turn out to be just that. And yet again, innocent people lose their lives.
Obama is, to me, just as guilty of being a murderer as the muslims who pull the trigger or detonate the suicide vests, or drive the cars up onto the sidewalks and plow them into people.
Kay says
If the story that the employer of Santiago-Ruiz reported him to the FBI is true, then yes, there was a definite government screw up. (Can’t understand the motivation but it certainly looks like letting jihadis take over.)
missinfidel says
This guy is not a Roman Catholic. Let’s examine some clues as to what he is. He lives within walking distance of Alaska’s only mosque, posts photos of himself showing allegiance to ISIS, has been posting on jihad forums since 2007, straight up told the FBI that he was fighting for ISIS, and committed a mass murder that looks very much like jihad. This is a tough nut to crack but my gut tells me he’s a TERRORIST.
For those who blame mental illness, let me bring up the fact that almost all schizophrenics have a huge amount of paranoia about the government. They will hardly speak to mental health professionals let alone the FBI. If he truly walked into an FBI office on his own, he was there laying the groundwork for this attack to be labeled as something besides jihad. As a mental health professional, I have never seen a schizophrenic walk in for help on his own.
We all know there’s an element of mental illness with everyone who commits jihad. These people are clearly not normal. But the overwhelming majority of schizophrenics do not commit jihad. There is, however, another group that does commit jihad. Exclusively. It isn’t hard to connect the dots for those who want to see the picture for what it is.
terry says
How do you know that he is a Roman Catholic? I have friends who are Puerto Rican, and they are Protestant. (And they were born in P. R.-the shooter has-in one place, born in NJ, another born in P. R.).
Bob Blackthorne says
More White men kill more people than any others? WTF do YOU have for brains?Do you EVER READ ANY newspapers or watch ANY reports of what is going on in Europe? Hey, guess what? Thousands of European WHITE WOMEN are being raped, over New Year’s Eve, HUNDREDS of women were sexually assaulted, and more than 1000 cars were set afire! Oh yeah, bring in hundreds of thousands MORE of these retro-neanderthal bastards. Yup, we’ll soon start seeing OUR real MEN shooting these knuckle-dragging, mouth-breathing vermin being shot on OUR American streets! See, WE still have OUR GUNS, and WE WILL USE THEM! First shot to the cojones, then after enjoying observation of agonizing pain during bleed-out, the final shot to the UGLY FACE!
lagitane says
Great conversation and thanks for getting the truth out there to the great uninformed masses. Actually, according to FBI stats whites are underrepresented in committing “hate” crimes (show me a love crime), and blacks are overrepresented in committing them. Furthermore, even when the more enlightened leftists know what Sharia Law countries due to women and gays, they pull out the talking point of “even my enlightened Muslim friends support Sharia,” with the suggestion that Islam can be reformed. But enlightened people a priori cannot be supporters of pure evil. Can you imagine the likes of Sally Kohn at CNN, the dingbat who will not condemn Sharia as a gay woman, having faith in the KKK’s ability to reform?
Yesenia says
What I don’t understand is why in the world, if FBI had contact with this guy and had a domestic violence situation with his baby mama, was he allowed to carry a gun? And…… nobody thought it was odd that THE ONLY ITEM HE WAS CARRYING WAS A GUN AND AMMUNITION????
When will we learn?
Keith Gilbert says
He was coming from Alaska…everyone in Alaska is armed so there is little attention to the matter.
Byzantium1683 says
Fair enough, but its still weird that his only luggage was a gun.
Of course, now we know why…..
Sibila says
beautiful!
so any terrorist just has to enter the US mainland via alaska
TR says
@ Sibila, They had been coming in through Canada to attend meetings with the likes of the weatherman RYM1 and RYM2 SDS back 50 years ago that I know of with SDS Radicals traveling to the Middle East and the “Freedom Fighters” as they were called, in turn coming here. This bond was never severed between them. Obama’s mentors were bringing him up under this solidarity bond. Reports were destroyed by Obama and started back in the Clinton and Carter years.
I am just a broken record but this needs to sink in on the public.
Obama is acting like an enemy of the USA Operative.
Yesenia says
So just because it is not uncommon for Alaskans to be armed they overlook that he recently visited the FBI and had a criminal record?
TR says
@ Yesenia,
With the DHS giving suspected Somalian Al Shabaab tours of Airport Security what are we supposed to be surprised at? How many Muslims attending such Mosque may be working Airport Security?
Yesenia says
Huh?
JawsV says
He obviously has some Muslim stuff going on with the keffiyeh, finger salute to Allah, and fighting for ISIS – but is he a Muslim?
Byzantium1683 says
Very likely, though reasonable not to just assume. I mean, look at the evidence!
Much better to assume after all this, than the police, and particularly the media, who always pretend there is no motive known long after it is.
I remember speaking to people, and they tell me it is too early in so and so investigation. Very possible- but they always say that. Literally, it’s sad.
j_not_a says
@JawsV – The old walks like a duck, quacks like a duck….. is an appropriate response here don’t you think?.
JawsV says
Yep, esp a duck wearing a keffiyeh and saluting Allah.
SDMatt says
There is no unity in the Islamic godhead: both Allah and the Koran are “uncreated,” which makes the Islamic godhead a duality.
ECAW says
Interesting thought.
somehistory says
Broward is the FL county with the moslim deputy. Not expecting much in the way of honesty on this case.
underbed cat says
I thought so…..this is diversity in action…civil rights is the magnet tool used after arriving in the U.S. to and rise to a position of power, all is well, going as planned to conquer.. even as this case arrives at his desk. It’s time to act shocked and dismayed. I thought it strange that he announced to his audience, he was not harmed or shot. Strange thing to say, unless you are a muslim.
It is when no one understands what he messaged,that you comprehend, we have been living with this deception quite awhile.
Michael Johnson says
He is right when he accepted Islam he lost his mind
JawsV says
That’s a good one! And so true.
JawsV says
Walid Shoebat: Photo evidence shows Ft. Lauderdale shooter is a Muslim Terrorist.
http://shoebat.com/2017/01/06/photo-evidence-reveals-ft-lauderdale-shooter-is-a-muslim-terrorist/
Bezelel says
I want to know what if any psych meds are involved. Mix that with an interest in islam = not good. A lot of Vets are committing suicide and the meds are heavily involved even without islam.
underbed cat says
Would those drugs be prescription opiate? Perfect anger/ delusional inducing medication when abused.
They are flooding the country and destroying lives. Sort of a medical jihad…..
Bezelel says
underbed cat, Both are destroying us but the witch doctors are prescribing anti depressants for PTSD and use the “trial and error” system to find out which one supposedly works. They arrive at their conclusion via feedback from the patient. I ask you, If someone has lost their mind, how are they supposed to know? There is no supervised observation during the process and many times the “feedback from the patient” is suicide. There is a list of non jihad shooters and the anti psychotics they were on. I’m in a rush right now or I would paste it.
Bezelel says
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/mad-in-america/201101/psychiatric-drugs-and-violence-review-fda-data-finds-link
If you’re interested this link would be a good starting place. I would add that the murders committed by opiate addicts usually is a means to get more drugs, not that the victims are any less dead or injured. My point is that the psych meds are unpredictable at least during some part of the process and PTSD patients are encouraged to include Spiritual help in their recovery. By accepting islam as a valid source of spiritual information the door is wide open for creating a jihadi.
Ed says
He is obviously a schizophrenic.His rights to pocess arms should have been revoked.Luckily this happened in the USA as he will likely get the death penalty and all further threats would end there.In Canada he would serve a year or two in a psychiatric facility and be released back to society
Rich says
Big Pharma puts millions upon millions on drugs and then convince the people that the
mentally ill should not have guns, the sheep agree, not realizing they just targeted themselves..
First, you build a medical/pharmaceutical industry that successfully pushes the notion that every little sorrow, nervous twitch, or bit of restlessness is a “disease” that needs to be treated with psychoactive drugs. Then you go on a holy crusade to take guns away from the “mentally ill” (and all the bobbleheads who haven’t thought about the implications repeat “good idea, good idea, good idea”)
So with the consent of the ignorant, complacent, well-programmed, and the devious slimeballs who take advantage of all of the above, any one of the millions who’ve been propagandized into taking one of those psychoactive drugs can become a candidate for losing his or her gun rights. No due process, no nothin’. (Added: Well, maybe the opinion of an authoritarian, anti-gun counselor or shrink.)
It’s just too-too perfect. Politically elegant.
Claire Wolfe
Bezelel says
Rich, “So with the consent of the ignorant, complacent, well-programmed”
Programed to be ignorant and complacent. some that I try to discuss current events with think the news is depressing so they choose to remain ignorant and when the consequences of their ignorance and complacency catch up, things get really depressing. Their is no pill to make it all go away, Their are some devious slimeballs behind the programing as well as taking advantage of it. islam is playing for keeps and our team is half asleep in denial.
Bezelel says
The topic is surfacing
http://www.infowars.com/carrie-fishers-ashes-placed-in-prozac-pill-urn-highlighting-ssri-epidemic/
I don’t promote Alex Jones as a role model but, on this subject he has been focused and consistent and confirms your statement about big pharma.
davej says
“Mental illness” seems to be the new excuse de jour. One of the most disturbing aspects of Islam is, as Robert said, the way it offers both justification and purpose to those who are predisposed to violence and bloodshed. Being extreme itself, as well as perverted, it is a magnet to extremists of all kinds.
Of course any dispassionate examination of Islam would conclude that it is a shared hysterical mass delusion to begin with, sometimes referred to as “collective obsessional behavior”. Usually such neurotic outbreaks die off relatively quickly, but due to the diabolical design of Islam it has managed to continue for 1400 years.
So far. Now it’s time for an intervention before the whole world goes up in flames.
JawsV says
Islam is the perfect religion for sociopaths. A God that orders you to kill and be rewarded for doing so! Islam = Sociopath’s Delight!
davej says
Very true.
So this guy had ALL the signs in advance: dead eyes, one finger salute (meaning Heil Allah), domestic violence charges. He voluntarily walks into an FBI office talking about ISIS and nothing is done.
THE FBI LET THIS HAPPEN. They should be charged as accomplices.
JawsV says
I agree. He should have immediately been put on a no-fly list and no weapons list. The Feds have 5 dead Americans on their hands.
underbed cat says
The cleverness of having a friendly face, but having a hard heart, is for subversion. They go after the agencies that are a line of defense first….so they work in all areas that are suppose to protect, but only appear to be clueless and mix in without spilling the beans to the non muslims in jobs and soon are heads of agencies it appears to me.
Champ says
Indeed, JawsV!
Cicero says
Yes. A friendly and disarming visage but always harbouring thoughts of how to advance the cause of jihad
I notice in the UK that they are ensconced in all ALL strata of British society in the most strategic and pivotal positions . And the dhimmified British continue to sleep walk their way into an Islamified nation
Byzantium1683 says
I first read about this on an article, which surprise surprise, pretended there was no motive.
It quoted a Canadian Agency saying that he was not on a Canadian flight, and that he did not come from canada.
Yeah, because it certainly had to be ruled out that his cause was Canada (Sarc/off)
Byzantium1683 says
Anybody remember that Greek convert and another guy who went to Algeria and blew up a gas plant?
It really annoyed me how the terrorists were referred to as Canadian. They left because they refused Canada, and because they hated everything about Canada and wanted to change it. They are NOT canadian in anything other than starting location.
Kay says
Referring to the murderers by the nationality of the country they invaded keeps people from putting the pattern together and understanding the threat.
The MSM has been betraying us.
mortimer says
And the lame-stream media pretends that he was not a jihadist.
Champ says
So *right*, Mortimer!
davej says
Not so fast buddy. There are many groups who encourage their members to shoot up public places. Plus no reports yet of any Allah Ackbars and he was from Alaska – everyone knows that there are no Islamic terrorists in Alaska. Sarc off.
Oops, Google says there are 30 mosques in Alaska and the Muslim population is expected to double in the next 12 years.
Mac-101 says
https://twitter.com/TEN_GOP/status/817483851337498624s
Mac-101 says
Someone posted the above on another site in comments. It does say he has been looking at and commenting on Jihad since 2007! Can’t say how true it is.
Mong says
The mental health thing is a cop out. About a third of the US has “mental health issues” if you count anxiety, depression, eating disorders, phobias etc.; they’re not going to start mowing people down in trucks or shooting people up in airports. There’s a big difference between psychology and psychiatry. Unless this guy has psychiatric problems and is clinically delusional then his “mental health issues” are irrelevant. Look at the image of him, he’s a committed jihadist.
mortimer says
https://www.everipedia.com/esteban-santiago/
Esteban Santiago Ruiz is an Anchorage, Alaska resident and ISIS member [34] known for his role as a gunman killing five people in the Ft. Lauderdale Airport Shooting that took place on January 6, 2017.[1] [2]
Photo: Doing a Tawhid salute
Personal : He was born in New Jersey, but moved to Penuela, Puerto Rico to live with his brother and mother shortly thereafter. [29] He moved to Alaska in 2015 years ago for work, and had been employed as a security guard [29] . He was “fighting with a lot of people” during his time in Alaska, including his girlfriend. [29] At the time of the shooting, he was receiving mental help for his Depression.
He is reportedly a Sunni Muslim with Salafi beliefs, and he is a father of one.
Santiago took Delta Airlines flight no. 1088 from Anchorage to Minneapolis – Saint Paul Thursday night. He landed Friday morning, and then took Delta flight no. 2182 from Minneapolis-St. Paul to Fort Lauderdale. He then appeared in the Terminal 2 baggage claim area wearing a Star Wars shirt.[22] [3] Witnesses say he appeared to randomly target his victims during the shooting spree which has left at at least five people dead and many more injured. [3] He was apprehended by authorities when he stopped shooting to reload, witnesses said.
Source: https://www.everipedia.com/esteban-santiago/#ixzz4V32ONiik
Keith Gilbert says
Perhaps he will finally do one decent thing in his/its life…and hang itself with strips of bed sheet…or dive off of his bunk head first…the only good islamic is a dead islamic…and he could make it so all alone.
byzantium1683 says
So, my Tablet has a built in news thing, that changes every day. I already recognize its five or so stories as propaganda-often targets Trump.
You know what ones of its few stories is today? “Florida shooting suspect struggled with mental health after Iraq tour, family says”
Stupid ctvnews. Family of jihadist says mental health….Check.
Just wait for people to start calling for a decrease in the size of the military, because thats where he came from.
To add insult to injury one of the main websites it links to does not even allow you to look at it without signing up. Not paying for propaganda!
mortimer says
Florida Gov. Rick Scott declared: ‘A Senseless Act of Evil’
It was far from ‘senseless’ as CLUELESS Rick Scott claims.
THIS WAS JIHAD SABOTAGE. The goal of ISIS is SABOTAGE and PARALYZE and STRIKE FEAR INTO THE HEARTS of the dirty kafirs.
Gov. Scott, DID YOU HEAR THAT? SABOTAGE!
davej says
All together now – we CONDEMN this SENSELESS TRAGEDY. Now let’s move on, nothing to see here.
HuffPo is reporting him as “an American gunman”. Says he went to the FBI office, no mention of him talking about ISIS. No picture of him giving the Jihad salute. HuffPo decrys ” gun violence”.
And of course “no motive has been identified”.
Kay says
Who is paying Huffpo to be complicit in misinforming Americans?
(I know there are intelligent people who read this and other MSM and believe they are well-informed.
Terry says
Champ–one thing that was noticed by a radio show Friday night.
THE NAME CAME OUT EARLY–YET, WHEN THE NAME IS AHMED, MOHAMMED, (similar Arabic names)–names come out late, and grudgingly.
Could it be that the media- thinking that with a Spanish name , the lame stream media thought that hew as Catholic, or, HEAVEN FORBID (or though the lame stream media would ahve lived it) AN EVANGELICAL CHRISTIAN?/
just asking
Terry says
Kay-I read that Huff Post is owned by AOL.
I never tried to confirm that.
terry says
I had read that Huff Post is owned by AOL. I don’t know if true-never bothered to check-I just don’t read it/
Undaunted says
So, Morty; what plans do you have personally to come against this jihad, in whatever form?
You got all the weapons and ammo you’re going to need? All trained up on some basic tactics? Have a plan on how to react when you’re out there and an attack begins and you can do something to stop it or at least show it down?
Or are you just a “member” of this site?
Carol says
I heard from a radio program that the gunman focused on the victim’s heads execution style as if he wanted to do as many kills as possible in the short time before police arrived. This is chilling, since it wasn’t random but methodical. How was it he could get guns in the airport bathroom? I pray for the victims and all involved as the truth evolves.
ECAW says
Glad to hear it was jihad (eventually). Each non-jihad atrocity is a terrible waste.
terry says
ECAW-please explain your last statement-it 9 to me) does not make sense.
Each Non JIHAD ATROCITY IS A TERRIBLE WASTE? And a jihad atrocity is not a waste?
An atrocity against innocent people is a terrible waste of human lives.
ECAW says
terry – As I see it we are in a game of own goals at the moment. For the opposition complaints of Islamophobic attacks (and even hard looks) are political capital. On our side the only things which serve to wake people up to the reality of the threat we face from Islam are atrocities. It will take many more atrocities to cause a real sea change in public opinion, and even that isn’t guaranteed.
Do not think that I wish for people to be killed, but each attack serves a purpose, for our side more than theirs I believe. It is a grim outlook I know but I think a valid one.
Mira Chaikin says
So many of these attacks – wrongs and atrocities – by ISIS and Al Qaeda leaning individuals. There’s probably a line of command with the underlings behind many of these.
Champ says
ISIS / islam doesn’t deserve the one finger salute **AT ALL** as shown in the photo …
But Robert Spencer is #1 for bringing us the truth about this evil perp before the lamestream media *dares* to!! Oftentimes Robert reports important details regarding terrorist attakcs before any other news agency will.
Bravo, Robert! Good work!
Undaunted says
I see several mentions above about being “so sad”. Sorrow is the emotion felt in situations like this by those who have no rational alternative. Sorrow is the thing that will slow you down when you need to make a split-second decision that saves your life a/o the life of another.
Some years back there was a shooter in a mall and a man with a legally concealed pistol managed to work his way up behind the shooter. The man looked at the shooter, who was a young man, and began to feel sorry for the poor kid and decided he couldn’t shoot him. In that delay, the shooter turned, saw him, lifted his weapon and fired into the “sad” man, who is now paralyzed for life.
Sadness cannot be part of your calculus, it must be replaced by rational truth:
– There is evil in the world
– It won’t be stopped entirely until the return of Christ
– Until then have a plan and get the right gear, then train to protect yourself and those you love
There’s nothing to feel sad about. In the end, we win. So be strong and of good courage, neither be afraid…
Champ says
Great comment, Undaunted–thank you!!
byzantium1683 says
Indeed. Sadness on a battlefield, is mostly or entirely useless.
However, when one reads about this particular event, or talks to idiots, Sadness is a reasonable emotion. It has its place.
What one should know, is when to let go of sadness, and work to make things better.
As for me myself, I don’t know if Im one of those people you mention. What happened is horrible, but I don’t really care at this point-its more of a disgusting thing, but even that is mild.
byzantium1683 says
And rather, its disgusting what lies the leftists produce. I know this Muslim killed good people, but what else is he going to do?
And the point about the gunner is correct. There is no place for mercy, particularly with opponents who don’t surrender.
Undaunted says
Resolve the conflict between your head and heart. You can’t function usefully while wrestling with opposing thoughts/feelings. Let me know how it turns out.
byzantium1683 says
Yeah ok.
We humans are opposing beings, but then again its our (or their) stupidity which led here…
Undaunted says
You’ll figure it out.
Allan says
Thanks for the uplifting story about the fool who was paralyzed. It’s probable that one of Aesop’s fables teaches us that he deserved to be punished harshly, as indeed he was. So also do the overwhelming majority of America’s police officers deserve punishment for serving and protecting progressives, capitalist racketeers, welfare parasites, Muslim immigrants, lawyers who arrange the corp limited liability scam, and so on. So if, during the approaching spring and summer, leftists and Trump-hating ghetto rats are killing cops left and right, I will not be sad.
It’s by the way that the example of sadness you gave is an aspect of pity.
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/pity?s=t
Terry says
Allan, if you do not like the US and are upset that in a few days it will be PRESIDENT TRUMP– GET YOUR ASS THE HELLO OUT OF MY COUNTRY.
Go to New Zealand ( 6 sheep for every man, i read; down from 20 per man a few years ago); or Canada- Trudeau would welcome you. Iran and Syria ( which, by the way, I read is running an advertising campaign to get tourists to visit) . then, thee is Bernie Sanders favorite place- Venezuela ( where toilet paper is rationed, and that there are not 25 brands of deodorant-probably none).
BUT LEAVE. JUST LEAVE. and take as many of your like minded assholes with you as possible- thousands at least.
Undaunted says
I think it’s fine for any rotten apple to be taken from the barrel; cop, lawyer, politician, whatever. But, as a former police officer I can affirm that most street cops are good, honorable people trying to do an almost impossible job. I wouldn’t mind seeing many police “leaders” put out there in the combat zones and alley fights and watch as their asses are kicked and they’re shamed and bruised and if one or two of them croaked from their wounds, then it was their time to go. For starters, the chiefs of Minneapolis, San Bernardino, Orlando, Binghamton, Washington DC (now head of security for the NFL), Boston, Burlington need to have their asses beat real bad.
In contrast, there is Doug Schroeder, Chief of Police in Hesston, KS; who just under a year ago responded to an Active Shooter in a busy factory. He didn’t wait for back-up but immediately went in alone, located the shooter and killed him with no hint of negotiation or pity.
Look at the probabilities: if you see bad-guys going against cops, who is more likely to be worthy of respect? By my calculus, it’s always the cop. So, don’t be sad when cops are attacked but be prepared to help them if you can. If you want to know how, let me know, I can advise on this.
Kay says
Advise us all if you can. We never know when the need will present itself.
Cops have been getting a bad rap under O. FOX ran an editorial on this topic today.
I and many appreciate your work and rely on you. Thank you.
Undaunted says
Kay, see below…
terry says
Allan, (I tried to post this before, but a screw up with my email).
IF YOU DO NOT LIKE IT HERE IN THE US- GET YOUR ASS THE HELL OUT OF MY COUNTRY.
We have an excellent EMIGRATION policy-unless you are incarcerated, if you do not like it, leave.
Some nice places- Iraq; Iran; Syria-in fact, i read just the other day that the Syrian Government is running a campaign NOW to try and get tourists to visit Syria- and Aleppo is considered a place that one should see. Then there is New Zealand, although- bad news, the sheep to humans is down to 6 to 1, from 20 to 1. And then to the north, Trudeau’s canada might welcome you. Put not as much as my first 4 places.
Don’t let the door hit your ass on the way out.
Dave Flang says
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJGNocvfU44
65 minute video:
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Saycheese says
A question from an European: are you allowed to carry a gun in the US when authorities know you have serious mental health issues?
Daniel Sebold says
Only if you hate girly men
Keith Gilbert says
The truth is, if you are armed…most of US are, you really don’t much give a damn what the authorities know or want…authorities are just folks to be avoided because they have their own agenda.
David says
Islam has nothing to do with Islam.
scherado says
//His girlfriend and child continued to live in the Alaskan city.//
//she said Santiago-Ruiz was happy after the recent birth of his son.
She told the website he “was happy with the kid” after the birth of the child last year.
“I don’t know why this happened,” she told them.//
These are relevant to me. Alaska? Isolated? Yes, No? New son? The horrors of a crying baby?
Is somebody going to make a connection to Florida or did this guy decide in some other manner?.
Keith Gilbert says
It was Friday…the head banger holy day!
Terry says
Depending upon the source- he lived in Naples FL for a short period of time, or (one I heard) he grew up here (Naples, FL) as a teen and went to high school there.
By the way-in the story-mentioned an aunt; his brother and mother; no mention of a father. Was thatn just a sperm donor?
terry says
Regarding FL connection-I heard one version that he “briefly” lived in Naples, FL., and another that he grew up there, and went to high school there. Naples is on the other coast of FL from Ft Lauderdale. Naples is on the west coast of the state, Ft. L- the east coast).
Ban the Islamic menace says
Why do we never see the dead bodies, or the blood or the REAL consequences of these attacks in Berlin, Paris, Nice, Fort Lauderdale etc…because if we do it will change the war to one where we confront the Islamic menace. The media want us stupefied and numb. They show us footage of bags on the ground at the Fort Lauderdale carousel, or covered bodies in Nice, but never the truth of this bloodshed. I read the News.com.au article they mentioned “mental health” issues at least 3-4 times in the article to reinforce the point they want you to believe this was the reason he attacked people. They don’t mention the fact he was clearly a muslim – as seen by his photo – once.
Kay says
Do we see the bodies or wounded in luve coverage— or even in print? Do the faces of the slain even appear in the media as they had been, living?
Seems they have been relegated to numbers– 5, 49, 14, 13 . . .
Kay says
Luve = live
patriotliz says
Was he still active duty military..if so, WHY?
Why didn’t the military and mental health providers block his ability to have a gun?
If his family thought he “lost his mind” why didn’t they make sure he didn’t have access to a gun?
Being forced to “fight for ISIS” given this Obama administration’s Islamophilia and the fact that ISIS is fighting against Assad doesn’t sound too far fetched. It’s Obama who is insane.
Terry says
Patriot liz-I hard he was honorably discharged a few years ago. ( 4 I beleive was the number mentioned).
terry says
Patriotliz-he had received an honorable discharge a few years ago, as per ABC radio on Friday afternoon. (I think 4 or thereabouts)
Cecilia Ellis says
Patriotic and Terry, according to news reports, Estaban Santiago-Ruiz was not on active duty and had received a General Discharge — not the same as an Honorable Discharge — from the Alaska National Guard in August 2016. The reason for that discharge was addressed in an article from which the following is an extract:
“Santiago-Ruiz served in the Alaska National Guard, a spokesperson confirmed to CBS News. He received a general discharge for unsatisfactory performance in August 2016. According to the Alaska Army National Guard, Santiago-Ruiz joined the Puerto Rico National Guard in December 2007, and served with that unit in Iraq from April 2010 to February 2011. He was in the Army National Reserves before joining the Alaska National Guard in 2014, they said.
The Pentagon told the Associated Press that Santiago had gone AWOL several times during his stint with the Alaska National Guard and was demoted – from specialist to private first class – and given a general discharge, which is lower than an honorable discharge.
He was also investigated as part of a child porn investigation in either 2011 or 2012, law enforcement sources told CBS News. Three weapons and a computer were seized, but no charges were filed, sources said.”
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/esteban-santiago-ruiz-fort-lauderdale-airport-shooting-suspect/
Cecilia Ellis says
Patriotliz, I sincerely apologize … It seems that predictive text changed your moniker.
terry says
I am aware (I was in the army) that a general discharge is not the same ( and is lower than) an honorable discharge.
I had heard that from the army he had received an honorable discharge. I do not know ( and is probably irrelevant) if after he got out of the army, for spending money, or a weekend away from home or whatever he re-upped- but to a reserve unit. That might be possible. I have herd of people doing it. Regardless, in answer to the question-he was no longer active military.
But, this raises a question that I did not ask.
(Using my experience)- when I left- first active service, then the army reserves-I had to turn in my military
id cards. Yet, as per radio reports, his picture id (my day physical description, no picture-) was military ID-not a driver’s license or other. (I got my final discharge –from my reserve requirements) prior to 1980.).
can someone who has been in the military later tell me- is it now, one can keep their military id after their tour is up?
Cecilia Ellis says
Terry, I had to turn in my active-duty, military I.D. Card upon completion of an enlistment period and upon each promotion as an officer. Likewise, I was required to turn in my active-duty I.D. upon retirement. I, like you, am curious about his having his active-duty I.D. in his possession.
SAHANI says
its easy to kill intellectuals as they are always busy fighting for reasons while jihadis are clear in their reasoning .
looks like our politicians now well educated have no concept of past history and little love for their own children . many don’r have even.
duh swami says
‘Why is everybody always picking on me’?
When you have been a victim of Islamophobia your whole life,, some paranoia is justified…When the paranoia bubbles over into psychosis, a violent jihadi is created…
Psycho-drama is required to impress Islamophobes…
The hihadi didn’t lill those people, it was Allah who did it and threw them under…Quran 8:17…of course in reality, Islam has nothing to do with this,,,It is clearly the fault of Islamophobes…
Alien Republican says
Much more people being “forced to fight for ISIS” expected to make their appearance in the mainstream media. New code word for good old “terrorist”.
The media haven’t reached rock bottom yet. Still a few inches more left to burry the last shred of any credibility.
2 weeks left for a “reset” in US and ultimately world politics.
Crusades Were Right! says
A Limerick:
“The motive’s not clear, somewhat hazy”
Say journos (some liars, some lazy)
“But one thing is clear:
(Here comes the bum steer)
To blame it on Islam’s just crazy!”
; ¬)
Dov Berrol says
This is crazy. I wonder if Israel’s Ben-Gurion Airport would allow an arriving passenger to casually claim his personal gun (even packed in a locked hard case) from the general baggage claim area without security guards escorting him off the airport property.
Alarmed Pig Farmer says
This is a big win for the Moslems. Here we have a Crusader from Catholic Puerto Rico who took part in a losing effort in Iraq, and then was set up by the FBI and CIA to be a fake Moslem, a cutaway Muhahadin. Not only does the Cause get some good old fashioned airport mass murder terror out of this deal, they get to be the victims, with at least half of the Commentariat arguing on their behalf. They never lose.
Angemon says
Alarmed Pig Farmer posted:
“and then was set up by the FBI and CIA to be a fake Moslem”
Don’t you mean Mossad? Muslims keep telling us that the things they take credit for and gloat about are all done by the JOOOOS to make islam look bad.
Alarmed Pig Farmer says
You’re right. But the Moslems know the news entertainers won’t deal in conspiracy theories, like a recessive group of Jewish genius secret agents telling the CIA what to do. Better just to blame the CIA. And why not? The CIA is blaming Vlad for helping rig our recent election, a bitter loss to the globo-socialists, like those working in Analysis in Langley.
Terry says
Alarmed- while the Obama (Mis)adminstration, CIA, FBI, NIA ETC are blaming the Russians and saying that they tried to help Trump, WHY AREN’T THEY SAYING THAT THE SAME IS TRUE IN REVERSE- BY THE BRITISH, CANUKS; FRENCH and a few others were trying to help Clinton?
terry says
Angemon, a few years ago (maybe more than a few- before Bin Laden got to go to his 72 goats) Iran said that the Mossad and the CIA were behind 911. Al Queida leaders (several of them, in different hellholes) all came out –” why wouldn’t people give us credit? WE AT AL QUEIDA DID 911, NOT THE MOSSAD OR CIA. AND WITH NO HELP.
Perhaps that was a sunni/shit thing. Regardless, funny
Lesley says
So, this guy who isn’t just garden variety mentally ill, but hears voices that aren’t there, whom the FBI was already watching, whom had embraced the ideology of Islam, was able to board a plane with ammo and put his gun in luggage, and tra la la get on a plane?
And Robert Spencer is harassed when he travels, and the rest of us have to struggle with how much travel shampoo we’re allowed to have and if we’re going to be given a cavity search checking in to our flights?
Something doesn’t add up in this case. It’s almost as if this guy was let through the cracks by someone on the left to make it seem like Islam is not the problem (because he’s mentally ill, Hispanic, and the mainstream can more easily suppress his connection to Islam).
I hope Trump fires lots and lots and lots of people.
Alarmed Pig Farmer says
Much has been made of the collapse of our vets in The Defensive War Against Global Jihad Tiny Minority. DWAGJTM War for short. What was it like for them over there? I’m telling ya it had to be markedly different that it was in WWII, Korea and eve Vietnam. What did they see, how did they feel about what they were seeing, who they were fighting for? They could see that the Tiny Minority was actually the Cohesive Total. They could see that it was ugly, not a noble good society deserving the cause. How did they feel about being used as human bait riding in those lightly armored cars, policing the Cohesive Total to try and stop trouble from them, our allies for whom the DWAGJTM War.
They say 20 commit suicide every day. Even if it’s only 10, that demands explanation. Prez Barack Hussein was rather quiet on the collapse of our newest class of war vets. but soon-to-be Prez Donald is gonna do something for them. Won’t work, but he’ll do something. What Prez Elect Donald should do is to publicly acknowledge the true cause of the collapse, which anybody can plainly see. What are they suffering from? Who are we fighting for, and why? Publicly acknowledge that and Prez Donald will have given Civilization a fair shot at not being snuffed out.
Tanker weams says
Other than the psychotic epidodes, and having fallen under the demonic spell of islam which made him murderous and annoying, he was supposedly not a bad chap.
girlgirl says
They were biased because:
1. he is a latino not a middle eastern.. as if islam was a race not a religion
2. he is a veteran .. as if some radical muslims haven’t served in the military
abad says
Santiago is a recent convert to Islam – what did they expect?!
And Gov Scott needs to shut the borders pronto. Us native Floridians don’t take too kindly to out of state troublemakers who come down here.
Ashley says
I’m sort of curious why he travelled from Alaska to Florida to pull this stunt. Why go through all the trouble of travel and making connecting flights only to attack innocents at a baggage claim area of the Fort Lauderdale airport? Surely there were viable targets in the Anchorage area…
Keith Gilbert says
It was Friday, the day of head banging for islamics, and…Florida is famous for having snow birds (vacating Jews from NYC) vacationing in the warm climate away from the chill of our North!
Ashley says
LOL…good points. Still, he travelled long and far. Did the Islamic State “force” him to target the Fort Lauderdale airport? Surely ISIS has operatives in Florida.
Not to sound flip, but this dude could have attacked right in Alaska. If he was bent on an airport attack why not pull this shit at the Alaska airport or during his layover at the Minneapolis-St. Paul airport?
Keith Gilbert says
You don’t hear about a lot of Jews vacationing in Alaska during the winter…and folks in Alaska go armed all the time, his rotten ass would likely have been shot the moment he fired the first shot…by several bystanders.
terry says
The Minn-St Paul question is a good one. I had heard that the layover was about 2 hours. That would have given him enough time to kill a few people.
Only other thing-in Minn. -people probably wearing heavy coats, etc. In FL., light jackets, or no jackets. Only thing I can think of.
Keith Gilbert says
They don’t unload baggage at stop overs.
Capitalist-Dad says
Leftists will see this as another opportunity to go after law abiding gun owners. But the problem isn’t that this creep had a gun, it was that he told the FBI he was”being forced to fight for ISIS” and “his mind was being controlled by the CIA”. And the crack members of “F Troop” LET HIM GO! How many times have we seen this? The perp winds up having been on the radar screen of the mighty Feds and—NOTHING! As the prescient Mark Steyn remarks (Steynonline.com), “Which, by the way, makes him another lone wolf who turns out to be a known wolf.” But Big Brother’s solution isn’t to recruit more intelligent and effective employees. Instead it looks for new excuses to restrict the 2A rights of law abiding citizens; forcing us to depend on the Keystone Cops who are incapable of anything other than showing up after the fact to tag bodies and announce, “We knew about him”.
Buford says
Truth be known regardless of his ethnicity he is a supporter of ISLAM the FBI dropped the ball by not putting this jerk on a No Fly List he came into there office & was spouting off about ISIS & other Terrorist garbage This is why Mosques & ISLAMIC Beliefs must be outlawed in the US The Quran is a hate filled waste of paper & cardboard that promotes evil, Deception, & is Demonic. No True Religion advocates killing, torturing others & the Marriage of 6 year olds with 60 year old men.
Florida Jim says
So may killings of innocent people by muslims everywhere why not ban them in any civilized country. Anyone who wants a Caliphate, Sharia, Jihad, Taqiyya and Beheading cannot stay in america or any civilized country. It is only time before every muslim demands these Islam supports why not admit it and be done.
Mira Chaikin says
I agree with Robert Spencer on this. Looking at Santiago Cruz like he was mentally ill is the wrong tactic. And the FBI handled this incorrectly. He had some sort of religious revelation. Fine. Many people do. He was under pressure from people to use his military skills and was in a turmoil about it. He wanted help from this on it. You don’t turn him over th shrinks or mental health workers. Have someone talk religion with him. Another Moslem. Somebody who believes in God. The smartest and also the dumbest people are in police agencies. They made fun of him instead. But calling in the head doctors is a grave insult, It’s like telling a Christian who believes in the Holy Spirit and God that they are cuckoo or anyone who believes in God the same. Wrong handle on that.
common sense says
Mental health problems are often “treated” with medications. Those meds sometimes make it worse. Exposure to Islam, child porn, isis videos and probable pstd from serving in Iraq all leads to Mohammad as your savior.
This is a terrorist attack inspired by Islam it has all the markers including the single index finger salute to their Satanic Godhead.
CNN will do its best to prove that it’s not.
Rich says
Mental health gun control is a weapon against the people is communist in origin..
Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose Communist goals.
Deceptive Transformation: The Truth of Soviet Influence in America and Gun Control..
The idea of using mental health as a weapon against the people is communist in origin, and the social sciences, or the studying of human behavior has its roots in early twentieth century Russia when Ivan Pavlov developed his “classical conditioning” theories. In fact, Pavlov was disturbed that Vladimir Lenin would use these conditioning methods against the people in order to get them to accept communism.
Rich says
“Image of Esteban Santiago Ruiz wearing a Palestinian keffiyeh neck scarf symbolizing his allegiance to Islam #FLLshooting https://t.co/OeClufMmNg”
https://twitter.com/FAKEFLLValet/status/817496319380062213
Debi Brand says
http://islamexposed.blogspot.com/2017/01/esteban-santiago-and-watchword-one.html
Undaunted says
Okay, Kay; here are my thoughts, from my blog a couple years ago. Sorry if it doesn’t flow, I did some quick edits and posted here.
There are reasons why a cop might not know he or she is about to be in trouble. Unknowns that he cannot control may include:
• Strength of a potential attacker
• Fighting skills of a potential attacker
• Weapons carried by a potential attacker
• Weapons skills of a potential attacker
• Number of accomplices an attacker can quickly gather
• Officer is purposely being led into an ambush
If I was aware that some person(s) about to be contacted by a police officer posed a particularly dangerous threat to that officer, I’d try to get close enough to the officer before he began his contact with the potentially very-bad-guy so that I could quickly and quietly tell him: The guy in the blue shirt hates cops and probably has a gun in his right front pants pocket. Careful. In this circumstance, there’s no way to do this without the bad-guy seeing you, so you’re either going to say something or not. You live with what happens after that. If I saw that an officer was already in contact with a person I knew to be particularly dangerous ~ or if I knew I absolutely knew I couldn’t let the bad-guy see me talking to the cops ~ I’d call 911 and say: There is one Omaha PD officer out of his car at the corner of Main Street and 9th Avenue. I’m here watching right now and I know for a fact that the man he is talking to in the blue shirt hates cops and probably has a pistol in his right front pocket. Please let the officer know to be careful.
In order that the 911 operator can get that information on the air ~ broadcast by radio to the police officer in danger and all others on the radio network ~ you need to be clear about what you see, that’s why you don’t just say; There’s a cop over here who might be in trouble. If you don’t know if it’s a police officer or a deputy sheriff (and why wouldn’t you know that?) then describe the color of the uniform he or she is wearing or look at the closest cop car and see which jurisdiction it’s from. If other officers are approaching the scene on foot a/o in vehicles, let them know it’s dangerous so they can be careful and so they can warn their fellow officer. If I couldn’t speak to the officer quickly and couldn’t contact 911, I’d get in his field of view and let him know with a hand signals that I’m watching. If the officer is at the center of the clock and the direction he’s facing is 12:00 o’clock, then my position is on a blue X, either one would do. Once in position, I’d try to make eye contact with the officer and then do this: Point to myself and then give him a thumbs-up signal, which means I’m a friendly. Then I’d point two fingers at my eyes and then sweep those same fingers in a horizontal arc in front of me signifying: I’m watching the situation. Depending on the totality of circumstances I’m seeing, I might very slowly and subtly draw back my coat or shirt to show him I’m armed. To add some clarity, the legal definition for brandishing is: bran•dish (brndsh) tr.v. bran•dished, bran•dish•ing, bran•dish•es 1. To wave or flourish (a weapon, for example) menacingly. 2. To display ostentatiously. n. A menacing or defiant wave or flourish. The body of a crime requires intent.. mens rea. If I have no intent to ostentatiously threaten the officer, which can be substantiated once the situation is settled, then there is no crime.
Anyway, there are a number of somewhat controllable factors which might add to danger just around the corner. The officer might be:
• Overweight
• Old
• Young
• Poorly trained
• Small
• Weak
• Scaaaaared shitless
So, let’s discuss possible scenarios where any of the bullet points above might lead you to believe that the lone ranger in front of you is about to get his or her ass kicked and perhaps killed. First thing you need to do when you see a cop begin to fight anyone is to call 911. The cop might not have had a chance to radio in his status before he was jumped or had to jump. Quickly tell the 911 operator what you’re seeing and that you are going to help… if that’s what you decide. Say something like: “This is Daniel Boone at Smith and Wesson Street in Mossberg. A police officer is fighting on the street here and I’m going to help him. I’m a white male wearing tan chinos and a Detroit Red Wings sweater. The main attacker is wearing black pajamas and using numchucks on the officer now.” Or, if you can’t remember anything else, just say “Officer down outside the Aldo Theater…” or wherever he or she happens to be down.
You don’t have to ask for the operator to send help. As soon as they hear an officer is down, they’ll send out an emergency call. If you’ve decided to help, then do it right away. Don’t let the operator tell you what to do. They have absolutely no authority to order you around.
You might not be able to determine if the attacker has weapons. Whether he has weapons or not, you don’t know what he will do with the cop’s gun if/when he takes it from him. Since the worst case scenario is somebody getting that cop’s gun and using it on him or her a/o bystanders, you want to get bad people away from/off him as quickly as possible. How? You’re going to have to grab people and literally drag them off. Grabbing by a shirt/coat/pant leg/shoe can leave you with torn bad-guy garments a/o empty shoes while he continues to attack the officer. So, you have to get a good hold on something that is securely fastened around a/o into the attacker(s): hair a/o belts – trouser waists if that’s all you can get. Get a firm grasp of either or both and drag them off the cop. If you use a hair-hold, don’t yank like you’re a sissy on the playground; hold on tight and puuuuuull the head in the direction you want it to go. Quickly, but not so fast that speed makes you lose your grip. The best thing to do once you’ve got someone by the hair is slam that head into something hard to stun her. Her? Sure. You think only guys try to kill cops? Get used to the idea now. Anyway, not sure if you’ll be able to slam that misbehaving head, but it’s Plan A. Don’t drag any body too far from the fight because, once you do whatever you do with that first thug, you might have to hustle over and wade back into the pile.
Undaunted says
Aaaaand, guess what! These thugs are probably going to fight back so be prepared to be absolutely brutal to end the fight as quickly as you can. I’ve been in lots of fights and can tell you from experience; the longer you take to subdue your guy, the more danger you’re in, and so is the cop you’re helping. If you get someone off a cop and they continue to struggle and you see the cop is still in danger, you’re going to have to end your little dance ASAP. If you’re struggling hand-to-hand, the quickest way to stop the bad-guy is to punch him in the throat, his Adam’s Apple ~ or, strike it with the edge of your hand. Hard. This is a deadly force situation. If you hit hard enough, it can crush the windpipe and the bad-guy will be busy trying to breathe. And he might die because of that punch. I guess he shouldn’t have fucked up and attacked a cop, then, huh?
Don’t try to pull on the bad-guy’s arm to get it away from a holstered cop pistol. If he has a firm grip on the cop’s weapon and you pull on his arm, you may actually be helping him pull it out of the holster. In that scenario, grab the bad-guy hand as it is on the pistol and get hold of the thumb. Pull back slowly on the thumb and half the grip he had will be gone. Try to break that thumb off his hand once you get a grip on it but use slow power, not a quick snap. Sweat and other body fluids might make hands and arms slick so you have to be sure you have good grips when you’re grappling like this.
If you have a knife reach in and slit the tendons and arteries in the wrist. You’re going to have to keep that baby sharp, eh? And press down hard when you’re making the cut ~ pisiform is basically bone. Assuming you do it effectively, the bad-guy probably will lose use of that hand, at least for a while, and loss of blood might convince him to leave the fight and seek medical help. Or he may die. If you cut the Digital Flexor Tendons, he won’t be able to close his hand. If you can get the Ulnar nerve and artery, you can cause loss of feeling and loss of blood. Cut deeply when you do this to sever thumb nerve and tendon. Also note: one cut across the Median Nerve can disable the entire hand.
If you can’t get to a hand, you will need to attack the assailant’s computer… his head. Pounding on his back a/o shoulders will be a waste of time because you don’t know how muscular he is nor what drugs he might be on, which might be making him pretty much immune to the pain you think you’re inflicting on him. If you’ve got no weapons with which to strike, then do speed punches on the bad-guy’s head, preferably at the temples. Don’t just whack him ~ or her ~ once or twice and then start wagging your finger at him. You have no duty to warn him that you’re going to hit him nor any moral obligation to ask him one more time to please behave or you’ll just have to… whatever. Hit him. Hard. Repeatedly. If it’s a her, hit her just as hard as you would a man. Strike until he or she stops his or her attack on the officer. If there’s only one attacker and you just beat his ass, take the cop’s cuffs and put them on the bad-guy, hands behind the back, even if you think he’s unconscious or dead. Then help the cop.
If you have a cane or an umbrella, that might be handy as a weapon. But, merely whacking someone with your stick probably isn’t going to help much unless you really hit hard and continuously and in the right spot. You get to call the shots in this situation and by that I mean you choose which target to strike first. A strike to the neck has more potential to break the spinal cord and stop the attack than a strike to the head. But you might not be able to get a shot at the neck. And, as always, it’s your choice if you even want to strike there. You can target the hands of attackers that you see trying to get to/unholster a cop’s weapon. Strike that bad-guy hand with as much force as you can and don’t stop until that bad-guy stops trying to get the gun. Rather than rely on a wooden cane or cheap umbrella, I think those of you who are committed to action need to check out expandable batons, which can be bought online, Monadnock makes good ones.
If a cop’s in trouble and can’t get his hands on his radio maybe you can get to the Emergency Alert Button ~ a red or orange button usually on the top edge of the radio. When the EAB is pushed down, a signal is sent to the 911 operator indicating that the EAB on that particular radio has been activated and the one who pushed it is declaring an emergency. Back-ups will automatically be sent to the last known location of that radio, which was, presumably, attached to a particular police officer. If you can’t do this, then push down the Talk button on the collar mic – the one attached to his collar or epaulet, about 2.5 inches square and yell: “Officer down in front of Buckwheat Theater.” Say it twice then let the button go. There is another Push-To-Talk Button on the side of the radio which works with or without the collar mic attached. Again, you’ve seen these things on TV and should have a pretty good idea what they look like. If you have to, reach inside the police car and slide the mic up and out of the bracket, you know what a radio mic looks like from all the cops shows you’ve ever watched, no?. The radio will work even if the engine is not running. Push the talk button down and loudly say: Officer down at 11th Street Starbucks. Officer down at 11th Street Starbucks. Yes, say it twice. Do not scream, the 911 operator will hear a distorted roar if you do so. Once you’ve said it twice, let go of the talk button and wait so see what the 911 Operator has to say in return.
If the situation devolves into one where you believe you’ll need to shoot one or more of the bad-guys in order to save the cop, you can’t just shoot into the pile of attackers. If an attacker is atop a police officer and is clearly winning the battle – the cop is being beaten about the head or choked or seems to be losing consciousness – and the totality of circumstances you observe persuades you, a reasonable person, that the police officer is about to be killed by the guy on top of him or her, in my view, you’d be wrong to stand there and see if the cop could win one for the Gipper. If you are carrying a pistol and decide to try to stop the attack by using deadly force you need to be careful where you put your rounds. In this case, don’t shoot down into the attacker, because in the real scenario there’s a cop down there. Rather, the best shot you can take to stop the attacker atop the cop, is horizontal through the shoulder, perhaps smashing into the collar-bone, pieces of which might sever the sub-clavian artery and cause quick death ~ or a shot that goes into the heart. You should shoot until you see that the rounds you’ve fired have made the bad-guy stop the attack. If you can’t get those shots, then you’re going to have to go in through the top of the bad-guy head. Pretty brutal, I know. But the bad-guy’s the one who started it and he knew before he started that his action was illegal and could result in deadly force being used against him. So, because he knew that risk and by his actions accepted that risk, then he’s got nothing to bitch about if a cop or a prepared citizen punches his ticket.
Frank J. Verderber says
Up until a few months ago, the index finger pointed up has been a sign used by Christians for years to say, “One Way Jesus.”
Who hijacked the sign and gave it to the Muslims? Would you believe it was the Gnostic British Home office and its new program to assimilate Muslims and make them nice. Its sort of a reverse of what the Roman Church did in the middle ages with pagan dates and heroes.
When is everyone going to realize that the Whore on the Beats in Revelations who is at the Great city that watches over the Kings of the Earth, is London’s Monarchy. Look up, “New World Order, Part II, by Frank Verderber at, http://www.smashwords.com.