“The federal government already knew about this for months, they had been evaluating him for a while, but they didn’t do anything.”
More precisely, it looks as if the federal government failed not Estaban Santiago, but the people in the Fort Lauderdale Airport, and the citizens of the United States.
“Brother of airport shooting suspect says U.S. government failed him,” Chicago Tribune, January 7, 2017:
The brother of a man accused of killing five people at a Florida airport questioned Saturday why his brother was allowed to keep his gun after U.S. authorities knew he’d become increasingly paranoid and was hearing voices.
Esteban Santiago, 26, had trouble controlling his anger after serving in Iraq and told his brother that he felt he was being chased and controlled by the CIA through secret online messages. When he told agents at an FBI field office his paranoid thoughts in November, he was evaluated for four days, then released without any follow-up medication or therapy.
“The FBI failed there,” Bryan Santiago told The Associated Press. “We’re not talking about someone who emerged from anonymity to do something like this.”
Speaking in Spanish outside his family’s house in Penuelas, the brother said: “The federal government already knew about this for months, they had been evaluating him for a while, but they didn’t do anything.”
In recent years, Esteban Santiago — a new dad — had been living in Anchorage, Alaska. But there were signs of trouble.
Esteban told FBI agents in Alaska that the government was forcing him to watch Islamic State group videos, a law enforcement official said Friday. The official was not authorized to discuss an ongoing investigation by name and spoke on condition of anonymity.
The FBI office in Alaska, which declined to comment ahead of a Saturday news conference, interviewed Esteban Santiago and then notified police, who took him in for a mental health evaluation.
Also, he was charged in a domestic violence case in January 2016, damaging a door when he forced his way into a bathroom at his girlfriend’s Anchorage home. The woman told officers he yelled at her to leave, choked her and smacked her on the side of the head, according to charging documents.
A month later, municipal prosecutors said he violated the conditions of his release when officers found him at her home during a routine check. He told police he had lived there since he was released from custody the previous month. His Anchorage attorney, Max Holmquist, declined to discuss his client.
Bryan Santiago said his brother had requested psychological help but barely received any.
“I told him to go to church or to seek professional help,” he said….
Sen.-elect Nelson Cruz, who knew the family and represents the town where they live in Puerto Rico, said he had been talking regularly with Bryan Santiago since the shooting.
“They’re very humble and very Christian people,” Cruz said. “They want to tell the families of the victims that they’re extremely saddened and extremely upset by what happened.”
Esteban Santiago himself may not have been all that Christian.

Yesenia says
I totally agree with the brother and feel the government failed the victims… When will we learn?
gravenimage says
The brother wasn’t saying that the government failed the victims–he doesn’t mention the poor victims at all. Instead, he was making the usual claim that Jihad terror is not the fault of the perpetrator, but of the authorities.
Yesenia says
@gravenimage
I should have been more clear… what I meant to say was that I agree with the brother in that the government was aware… and I agree with the writer of the article who said that the gov let the families down ….
My bad ….
gravenimage says
Thanks for the clarification, Yesenia.
Rob Porter says
Yesenia
Nothing will change until children are once again instilled with true values, given a moral compass to replace a moral void, and political correctness is banished as dishonest, cowardly and detrimental to mental health. It’s evident that Federal government is afflicted with a lot of very stupid individuals with political correctness having dulled minds and produced a form of cowardice toward acting in a practical and responsible manner. It’s beyond me how this is changed after decades of corrupting education and the stupidity that comes from what Dr Ben Carson calls ‘dumbing down’ of education. If parents lack wisdom and now are basically spineless, how is the thinking of their children changed? Many really good teachers are needed, but from what I see most are airy-fairy knuckle-headed liberals about as ‘thick’ as an Australian brick. During the 19th century, famous German atheist, Friedriech Nietzche, yes an atheist, said that if people stopped believing God the world would go mad and that as a consequence the 29th Century would be the most violent ever. It was. Evidently Nietsche, despite his rejection of a belief in God, decided that belief in God produced something good and decent in mankind. In my estimation rejection of a belief in God has made a mess of Western man. There needs to be a restoration of those beliefs with the moral compass and values it embraces. That restored there will not longer be fluffing around regard the evil of Islam and rejection of the trash it represents.
TheBuffster says
The article says that the family wanted “… to tell the families of the victims that they’re extremely saddened and extremely upset by what happened.”
Here’s a crucial question here: Is a person in the grip of a psychotic episode who is hearing voices and having delusions capable of making healthy choices based on reality?
At this point in what we know of this case, I think it’s pretty clear that Estaban Santiago was actually psychotic and in his mental confusion turned to the FBI of his own disturbed free will to inform them that his tin foil hat wasn’t working – the “government” was forcing him to watch Islamic State videos and trying to make him join the Islamic State.
That’s not what your usual jihadist is going to do – report on the government to the FBI for trying to get him to join the Islamic State. He clearly wanted the FBI to rescue him.
This guy was not psychologically competent. He was obviously delusional, paranoid, hearing voices, i.e., psychotic, and fixated on a very dangerous group. He was not in a condition to be a rational actor with moral agency. And yet he did seek out help, within the realm of his psychotic parameters – he went to the FBI to report that he was being pushed towards the Islamic State.
At that point it was up to the FBI and the police, and any psychiatric evaluators, to take this danger seriously and to restrict this person from wandering around and having access to guns, until he was on the right medication to allow him to recover his rational faculty and moral agency.
In this guy’s case, if Islam didn’t exist it’s likely that he would have fixated on something else that would give the malevolent urges of his psychosis a focus. For example, he could have been taken over by the Four Horsemen of the Coming Apocalypse, or Satan, or a stray black cat hanging around his back yard that whispers to him that he must kill white people for the sake of Black Lives Matter. But the government in league with the Islamic State is what struck his insanity’s fancy.
The authorities were handed the opportunity to head off this disaster. Why didn’t they head it off? That’s the important question that needs to be asked and answered.
This is not to say that everyone who does jihad is psychotic. But those who *are* psychotic and become paranoid and hear malevolent voices urging them towards violence (as I understand it, most psychotic people are not in this category) will fixate on some symbolism that matches the scary internal world. ISIS is perfect for this state of mind.
If this guy had been treated and was on medication for his type of mental illness, he very well may have lost all interest in ISIS and concerned himself with dealing with his own day-to-day problems.
When authorities that are charged with protecting us from crime throw down the ball when it’s handed to them in both of their hands, then they’ve failed in their duty. The authorities in Rotherham and other British communities where teenage girls were groomed and repeatedly raped are responsible for letting it continue for 20 years. The criminals are the primary culprits, but the authorities are paid to do a job that they didn’t do. They could have stopped it. They didn’t. That part isn’t the fault of the rapists.
It’s the proper job of a national government to protect its citizens from an invading force that would subjugate them under a repressive set of laws and customs, that would destroy the foundations of individual liberty, and those governments who invite masses of people from hostile cultures to come live in their countries fail in their duty to know the enemy and protect their citizens. The enemy is guilty of its evil, but the government is guilty of not even trying to keep the enemy out, but inviting it in and giving it free stuff.
If Estaban Santiago made choices that brought him to a psychotic state, say, if he made no effort to develop his rational/moral faculty, if he took drugs and degraded his mind, then he may be in part or wholly responsible for bringing on his psychosis. But once he’s there, and sane people know it, the ball is in their court.
gravenimage says
I agree that authorities should have done much more to protect us.
But this Jihadist was quite organized in his planning–this took at the very least hours to plan. It was some spur of the moment out of control violence.
c matt says
If I were a conspiracy theorist, I would think that the FBI/CIA actually wanted this to happen. Increased funding? More draconian gun laws leading to better population control? In short, more social conditioning to eventually lead to more power for the government?
I suppose incompetence could explain it, but this level of incompetence borders on intentional stupid.
Chris Malan says
Go with the stupidity and incompetence. It’s work to devise and implement a conspiracy. Work is not popular. Hanlon’s Razor also supports the stupidity and incompetence; whenever something bad happens, the cause is more likely to be stupidity than malice.
medaber_emet says
The brother is right
Jihad Terror is the fault of the authorities
and now comes my explanation for why he is right
he is right because the authorities are to be blamed
because there should have not been any muslims in america
the authorities in USA totally failed to identify the great danger of islam
the muslims are using our own norms and values in order to destroy the western civilisation.
slowly but surely they introduce and integrate their sharia law into the west
how its done you want to know
they are using our kindness and fairness in order to destroy us
they are asking us not to do things that might offend them or their religion
they start smaal but later on its increasing
for example first they request not to picture muhammed and then it comes to not to drink alchohol and more and more sharia
in their muslims countries there is no considerations for minorities and other religions
they aggressively carsh the minorities torture them, rape their women and take jizya
tax from them
so when muslims will become a majority you will not be treated with any tolerance like you give them when they are minority
you will be exterminated and extinct
the west got to understand that acceptance of muslims today into their countries
will outcome within several decades or even centuries in muslims taking over and extinction of the host culture.
so as you see the brother is correct, its all the fault of the authorities
they let the muslims in and now the population is paying the price in blood.
if america has any desire to survive
kick out all the muslims and ban islam and sharia
Christianblood says
medaber_emet posted
(..they are using our kindness and fairness in order to destroy us
they are asking us not to do things that might offend them or their religion..)
You are right. Islam is not a religion but a global cult of death and destruction and it needs to be banned or millions of innocent peoples will be dead! It is not just a US problem. It is a global problem.
J D S says
Maybe his family failed him?????
Smarty says
How does family help someone with severe mental illness/psychosis. This is a serious health problem in our country. Most homeless and many in jail are mentally disturbed. We have failed to find a way to get these people help and deter this type of tragic outcome.
Chris Malan says
I often think of that. However, if these people are rounded up and put into a facility where they are diagnosed and get regular treatment, as I think they should be, the liberals will have a field day.
A Harris USA says
graven you are so right!! The usual I am the victim!! This guy may be nuts, but he is also a Muslim. On the official page of him in the U.S. army shows his religion as Suni Muslim…Need I say more……..My question, is has the FBI bothered to check out the mosque this idiot seems to have attended?? NO. There is to much effort put into this attack to be a spur of the moment deal. As I have read many times in JW the Euro excuse is mental illness is run a muck.. Maybe this is the new “out” for these murdering filth!!
SK says
I read reports about him actually blaming the CIA for him watching ISIL videos. There are reports about him talking to the FBI about voices he claimed to be hearing. Apparently, they didn’t do enough following up.
Normally, the “mental illness” excuse is just some lazy way to sweep things like this under the rug. People who used it in the past devalued it so much that it means very little for counter-j people.
This may mean that he was not comfortable with the religion or really liked it (but he still recorded himself on MySpace saying its conversion phrase), but considered it “mind control”.
I know that I usually only post when I feel like something is “out of the norm” or there’s some level of ambiguity, and this is one of those times.
Tom says
Amazing!!
I am constantly amazed at the vitriol that spews forth from the very vocal offended few. Islam needs to be declared a hate organization and purged from the earth.
The next administration will clean up all the agencies associated with this debacle.
Carmel says
As long as the perprator is the victim , everything will be good for me …..
Champ says
Fort Lauderdale shooter’s brother says U.S. government failed him
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
LIAR …
This is just mohammedan taqiyya at work.
Sam says
Investigations of “extreme” terror goes on and on and on. Islam is never and never and ever is mentioned. Islam kills and kills and kills. The whole world blames Israel for building apartments.
Isn’t this a crazy, really screwed up world or what. What is missing here?
citycat says
@ SAM
What’s missing?
Not sure at all, something’s missing alright.
Who or what is the beast that is devouring the consciousness and efforts of humans.
Dum Spiro says
Could this be the latest manifestation of The Global Outbreak of Mental Illness?
http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/262826/global-outbreak-mental-illness-robert-spencer
You can even kind of see it in his eyes…
— Spero
gravenimage says
Spot on, Dum Spiro.
Cameron says
Leads one to believe that Islam is a mental disease whose goal is death – your death – a disease not unlike any other such as anthrax, HIV, bubonic whose presence undeniably also kills, . And yet we allow, even support, the building of their (Islam’s) institutions for spreading their disease – mosques. I know of no other disease of death that receives such government support instead of eradication. It boggles the mind how supposedly intelligent people can be so overwhelmed by their false compassions that they put people in charge (government) whose goals are about protecting the diseases which will ultimately kill them. (Hitler and Obama come to mind).
mortimer says
And … of course … Bryan Santiago did not ‘fail’ his brother at all! Nor the Santiago family, nor those who knew him, nor the mosque, nor those Muslims who looked the other way, nor …
NO ONE had any responsibility in the final analysis.
somehistory says
I say, if a person feels they need mental help, psychological help, emotional help, they go to a doctor who can help them. A regular MD can refer a person for counseling and even name a doctor or more that specializes in helping people who are having mental issues.
The government is not supposed to be in the business of taking people to doctors or counseling the patient. The guy didn’t really want help to stop him from expressing his *rage* or *anger* or *depression*…etc. He wanted a backstory to be used later as an excuse in the media and court.
The government failed the victims and their families by not keeping him off the plane and gun free. He was saying he was a threat.
gravenimage says
Yes–if police had arrested him and a judge had sent him to a mental health facility before any of this happened, the family would probably be screaming about the injustice of the high-handed authorities.
TheBuffster says
That may be so, but at least the government and mental health professionals would have been doing their job.
Governments all over the West have been failing in their duty to face facts and protect the people under their jurisdiction from the Islamic threat.
We can complain all we want about the Muslims and their responsibilities regarding the jihadists among them, but in the end government agents have to be the ones to act, to take all legal precautions to stand in the way of jihad and Sharia. We can complain about Muslims being Muslims, but the only area of control we have is to educate our fellow citizens and to vote for those who understand what we’re up against. We need to focus on what *we* can do, and that has to do with government accountability and policies.
If the government does its proper job, dedicated Muslims who aim for Sharia and who support jihad will have less and less ground to stand on in our countries.
We can’t expect the people living in the Islamic Bubble – whether in some diluted version or the 100% proof version – to help us. The half-baked Muslims can’t be effective in any big way, because they don’t have the texts on their side. The texts will always inspire the non-insipid personalities to the full-testosterone, uncompromised supremacist Islam. It’s only by convincing our fellow citizens, and through them our governments, that political Islam is a deadly enemy that deserves no compromise that we can win against it.
gravenimage says
I agree, Buffster. Just saying that this Jihadist’s family would probably be playing the victim regardless.
TheBuffster says
The problem with psychosis is that the person has lost touch with reality and his brain chemistry is out of whack. If he has delusions, those delusions make sense to him, he believes they’re true, whereas a mentally normal person can see that the psychotic’s delusions don’t comport with reality.
So a person deeply in the midst of a psychotic episode is going to act on what he believes is true. He probably doesn’t believe he’s mentally ill. In this case, when Santiago went to the FBI, he went to get help against the government who he believed was forcing him to watch ISIS videos. If he believed he was psychotic and delusional he would have gone to a psychiatrist or mental hospital or medical clinic. But that’s not what he believed.
A person who is that wrapped in a psychotic delusion doesn’t have the awareness that he needs a psychiatrist and medication.
TheBuffster says
“The guy didn’t really want help to stop him from expressing his *rage* or *anger* or *depression*…etc. He wanted a backstory to be used later as an excuse in the media and court.”
That’s a speculation, not a fact. I’m not saying it’s impossible that he was faking psychosis for the sake of a backstory, but he had no way to be sure that he wouldn’t be stuck in a mental ward, forced to take medication and thus kept from his jihad plans.
Furthermore, a sane jihadist (if I may use such an oxymoron) would expect to be killed in the event of shooting up a crowd of people, and in fact would welcome that for the reward of Paradise. He would not try to create a backstory that would make his dedication to Islam seem to be merely a psychotic delusion. That’s an insult to Allah. A jihadist embraces the glory of jihad and his fate of martyrdom. He doesn’t try to escape or degrade it by faking mental illness.
somehistory says
And your comment about what he expected, what he knew, etc, is pure speculation…not facts.
I have studied terrorism, moslim and otherwise, under some the best in the field. It takes all kinds. Even though moslims all learn from the same evil texts, they don’t necessarily have the same education in islam, nor the very same personality as another who commits murder for the sake of their fake god.
My take on him is a plausible as yours. He went to the FBI, possibly knowing the same thing the rest of the population does…that right now, they don’t know islam as former agents did…or some of the older agents do. And they aren’t psychologists. There are some FBI Special Agents who do have the training to spot such as the delusional, with doctorates in the field. But that is not true of every agent.
If they didn’t do a background on him, they wouldn’t know his affiliation with islam from years ago. The story is coming in in bits and pieces.
He supposedly was glad about his baby, but he left the baby in his car…alone with his gun…when he went to the FBI. Do you know what he was thinking at that time?
There are jihadists who send their kids in to do the killing so they can stay alive. There are jihadists who expect to die while committing their jihad. There are some who are fooled into committing jihad by their bosses in the field. You can’t know ahead of time which one is going to be seeking the ultimate *glory of jihad* and which one might just be a little shy of going the full route and want to kill without being killed.
The FBI didn’t lock him up. He likely knew they wouldn’t as going in and saying he was being programmed by the CIA to go with isis wasn’t a crime…and it isn’t. It just sounds crazy. So, he had his backstory.
Lesley says
@somehistory: The grand problem is that people who are that crazy either rarely think it is THEY who has the problem or they enjoy and identify with a pathological aspect of their illness.
Loved ones trying to steer them to get treatment becomes the loved one “rejecting me, because this is who I am.”
Also, if the person is of age to be considered an adult, the most the family can do is call for a mobile unit, and try to get them held for a mental health evaluation. You would be surprised how cleverly people with the schizo disorders can hide and deny their symptoms. They pretend well because they are paranoid and practice pretending to protect their “specialness.”
Further, they may not forgive the family members who tried to get them help and who called the mobile unit… if their area is even lucky enough to HAVE a mental health mobile care unit.
The FBI in conjunction with Veteran Affairs had the greatest power to a) prohibit this guy from accessing guns and b) force this person to comply with treatment protocol (possibly using VA benefits as leverage).
Lesley says
Hopefully, when Trump takes power, Islam and associated terminology that identifies association with Muslim groups will be reintroduced into FBI and CIA training, and raise red flags when they evaluate people to determine terror threat… mental illness or no.
somehistory says
Lesley,
I wrote my comment partly because the *the brother* said the shooter had gone to the government for help and they did nothing. If the brother was so concerned, he could have directed the shooter-brother to a doctor. He evidently didn’t do that.
And what is more, I have known people with severe mental/emotional problems who did go to doctors…on…their…own. I would say that most people with severe mental problems do not go into FBI offices and report those kinds of things, nor do their relatives who believe the person needing help should go to the FBI for help with mental issues.
I still believe it was so he and his family could say…just as the brother is already saying…that he went for help and the government didn’t help him and it’s all their fault that he went out and killed people.
somehistory says
And, with respect for you being a person, and not just a computer, I have to say, you do not know me well enough to say this:
“You would be surprised how cleverly people with the schizo disorders can hide and deny their symptom…”
Your really don’t know me well enough to know what would or would not surprise me.
duh swami says
If the Federal gov failed him and deadly jihad was the result, then whoever was in charge of the Federal gov at the time should be arrested…
gravenimage says
Fort Lauderdale shooter’s brother says U.S. government failed him…
More precisely, it looks as if the federal government failed not Estaban Santiago, but the people in the Fort Lauderdale Airport, and the citizens of the United States.
…………………………
That is spot on. It’s the usual–the family of a terrorist claiming that the bad authorities didn’t do enough for the poor flower. There are, in fact, several mental health clinics in Anchorage that offer free care if needed. Did he ever try to get help?
What authorities should have been concerned about were those he might threaten–and now five people are dead, and many injured.
Esteban Santiago–really, Aashiq Hammad–said he watched huge numbers of Islamic State videos–unless someone is conducting research, that in itself should be a red flag.
And I’m sure we will continue to hear about how “Christian” this family is–without mention of this terrorist having a Muslim name.
Debi Brand says
“More precisely, it looks as if the federal government failed not Estaban Santiago, but the people in the Fort Lauderdale Airport, and the citizens of the United States.”
Indeed, no doubt about that.
Because they bank on, “when it comes to Islam and those who live by its Guidance, our part is to play the role of the fools, the gullible, the subjects, the susceptible, and the defenseless ‘unsuspecting’ prey of the “lions” and “cubs” of the Ummah.
“As such, our part is to absorb the brunt blow of the heaving swelling chest of the horsemen’s mount as it barrels into and over us. ‘ if we’re lucky, seize if not a leg then a stirrup, if not that, then a perhaps a hoof, and if not that, then, hopefully, minimally, at least a strand of hair from the tail of the steed that trampled us.
“And prepare for the next bloodletting and loss of peace, property, freedom, loved ones, life and limbs, as the Muslims, enjoying among us the freedom to practice the tenets of their faith, do just that.”
http://islamexposed.blogspot.com/2017/01/esteban-santiago-and-watchword-one.html
Don McKellar says
Is his brother a moslem, too? He sure is talking like one — playing the blame game.
gravenimage says
+1
Cameron says
Leads one to believe that Islam is a mental disease whose goal is death – your death – a disease not unlike any other such as anthrax, HIV, bubonic whose presence undeniably also kills, . And yet we allow, even support, the building of their (Islam’s) institutions for spreading their disease – mosques. I know of no other disease of death that receives such government support instead of eradication. It boggles the mind how supposedly intelligent people can be so overwhelmed by their false compassions that they put people in charge (government) whose goals are about protecting the diseases which will ultimately kill them. (Hitler and Obama come to mind).
Cameron says
+2 – taquiya
JMB says
Of course the US Government failed him. They failed in every way, failed to check his background, they failed to do anything about it,they failed when the let a person with mental health issues own a gun, they failed to acknowledge that anyone with Islamic connections is a potential terrorist and no doubt that the orders for that deliberate omission come straight from the top.
Debi Brand says
Yup.
In a word.
http://islamexposed.blogspot.com/2017/01/esteban-santiago-and-watchword-one.html
Christianblood says
This looks more and more like another convert to the evil cult of islam who carried out his Islamic jihad duty on unsuspecting American “infidels”. No doubt American politicians and media will try to hide this fact by calling him to be mentally disturbed etc.
Angemon says
Christianblood posted:
“No doubt American politicians and media will try to hide this fact by calling him to be mentally disturbed etc.”
I guess Santiago must be both a politician and member of the media media, seeing how he willingly signed in for psych evaluation…
Dov Berrol says
Anyone boarding a plane with a firearm and/or ammunition in his luggage should have to claim his baggage at a special security office in each airport in the country. He then is escorted off airport property by police. Period. This guy should never have been allowed to board a commercial jetliner with a gun in his checked bag. So much for airport security.
Mind you, is anyone screened before coming off the street to meet arriving travelers at any Arrivals area at any airport? This guy could have walked into the Arrivals area of Anchorage’s airport with a loaded gun and done the same thing.
Repeat after me: IDI = Islam Did It
and
KLM = KufarLivesMatter!!!
Steve Klein says
I was watching Fox & Friends this morning. Second Amendment.
gravenimage says
As tight as security is at most airports these days, baggage areas–where theoretically everyone has already been ID’d, scanned, searched–often have no security at all. In many such areas, one can just walk in from the outside. One airport–Burbank? I can’t recall–the doors are only automatic from the inside. But this is not a complete safeguard–while I was there, I saw several people just wait until someone used the “out” door to enter. Nothing nefarious, in these cases–but they might have been.
kangi_yotaka says
If someone tried shooting in ANY un-secure part of the Anchorage airport, they’d get off about one shot before being taken down. Many people here are armed.
RCCA says
The guy sounds like a paranoid schizophrenic. The FBI knew his mental history and his mental state and passed him along to another agency who passed him on to another agency, one which was not responsible for law enforcement or public safety.
At the least he should not have been allowed to carry a gun. Was someone’s fear of being accused of Islamophobia part of the reason he fell through the cracks? IDK
This case reminds me of the mass murderer in the movie theater in CO, James Holmes, whose professor and doctor knew he was a threat and yet did nothing. From Wikipedia: ” One of Holmes’ psychiatrists suspected, prior to the shooting, that Holmes suffered from a mental illness and could be dangerous. A month before the shooting, Dr. Lynne Fenton reported to the campus police that he had made homicidal statements.” But in that case, as well, nothing was done.
Lesley says
This guy was 26, and living about as far away from his family in Puerto Rico as he could get– Alaska. The FBI and Veteran Affairs had more power in this case to stop this guy from being able to carry a gun, and require that he be under psychiatric treatment than his family.
Also, he seems to have been prone to violent behavior. His family are probably nice people who didn’t understand that his teenage fascination with Islam was dangerous, and tried to love him through his struggles in a way that didn’t do much, but also didn’t risk alienating him and losing touch, especially since he was geographically removed from their grasp.
Baucent says
The unasked question, no one will ask is “did he have an interest in Islam?”
Lesley says
Heads should roll at the FBI over this, for sure…
warren raymond says
Nathan Lean @nathanlean Jan 6
In other news, #FortLauderdale airport shooting suspect Esteban Santiago isn’t identifiably Muslim so it’s not clear if it’s “terrorism.”
citycat says
Maybe the Islãmic presence is involved.
It’s tentacles are everywhere, and not noticed by some.
It’s subtle evil has permeated all veins of infidel society, such that Muslims/converts give their lives for an entity that does not care at all for the Muslims.
He has a mental problem, not like other Muslims then?
Or maybe yes, like other Muslims.
Nothing to do with the Qur’an then?
Baucent says
There’s more to this story than what has emerged so far. The mention of being “forced to watch ISIS videos” is a huge red flag someone should have picked up on.
Queenslander says
The ‘Buffster’ hit the nail on the head. His commentary was factual, reasonable, backed by facts not hypothesis…and most importantly, correct. His reference to the UK also put this incident into perspective and also demonstrates that he is (more) widely read than many other contributors, and can separate the chaff from the wheat.
Many of the other ‘observers’ are blinded by their personal (irrational at times) beliefs, ideas and fact free thoughts.
This event lies at the feet of ONLY two agencies – the FBI and the Police. Stop looking for other scapegoats, stop looking at the perps family. This is just ANOTHER example of the Federal and State Agencies failing in their duty.
Chris Malan says
There is no clear mention that this person was a Muslim. The only reference to religion is, “They’re very humble and very Christian people,” Cruz said.
About the publicly funded organisations (police, defense force, civil service, you name it) not being efficient, that is what they do, the world over. It’s been like this since long before I was born and will most likely be like this long after I’m dead. That’s life. There were clear indications that this person should not have had access to firearms. Nothing will happen to anyone in any of these organisations who dealt with this case. Such is life in the public service.
gravenimage says
Chris Malan wrote:
There is no clear mention that this person was a Muslim. The only reference to religion is, “They’re very humble and very Christian people,” Cruz said.
………………………….
He used a Muslim name and produced Islamic religious music. That certainly indicates that he was Muslim.
Anne Smith says
Although much has been made of this man’s mental health issues no one has mentioned drugs. If he served in Iraq he probably started using drugs which could have the usual mind bending results.
In UK it is noticeable that most of the very unpleasant trouble we experience from terrorism and violent criminals is the result of many of them having been on cannabis and other mind bending “recreational” drugs.
UK writer Peter Hitchens often covers this aspect of criminal behaviour but so far the authorities seem reluctant to accept this although there is much evidence to show that drugs are responsible for a huge increase in crime, both for money to obtain them and as a result of mind bending.
Quite a few reports about jihadists mention that they were drug users.
gravenimage says
Not everyone who has served in Iraq is a heavy drug user. I’m not sure where you got that idea.
God Almighty says
Someone let me know how much they get when the big fat compensation claim goes in, as ever they do with these poor ‘victims’
DACON9 says
THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA FAILED TO PROTECT ITS CITIZENS. The family of this terrorist failed to advise the authorities that there is a problem. THE FAMILY KNEW THE PROBLEM MORE THEN ANY COLLEGE PROFESSOR WACKO DOCTOR THAT RELEASED HIM A FEW TIMES. I heard taking away his gun then returning the gun. WHEN YOU SEE a degree on the wall of these psychiatrists then you know to go the opposite way. WAIT I HAVE MORE TO SAY. TOLERANCE FOR INTOLERANT, LIBERALISM, GREEN PEOPLE, DEMOCRATES and of course president Obama are to blame. I TRULY WORRIED FOR THE WORLD IF HILLARY WON. NOW I FEEL SECURE AND RELAXED THAT TRUMP HAS TRUE FAMILY VALUES LAW AND ORDER. The world will be back in its proper order again. PRESIDENT TRUMP IS CYRUS THE PERSIAN KING.
SIDE NOTE: to the commentator in this blog, I COPYWRITED THE CAPS USAGE IN THE INTERNET. You cannot use caps unless you ask my office for permission. (copywrite2017 DACON9) GOT IT?
Chris Malan says
“COLLEGE PROFESSOR WACKO DOCTOR” With that phrase you told the whole world your education level is low and you don’t like educated people. Like a friend said long ago, they (the uneducated and unintelligent) can smell intelligence and they don’t like the smell.
Gerald Mucci says
My education level is higher than most and I wouldn’t trust most shrinks, either. And the ones who counseled this Islamic terrorist were ignorant failures.
Chris Malan says
There is a difference between a psychiatrist and a psychologist. The former is a medical specialist, the latter a charlatan.
DACON9 says
YO CHRIS: I AM GLAD YOU exposed your ”HIGHER” education proving my point. You offered nothing except your ego in commenting to me. I am flattered that I am worth YOUR time. I think you have my ‘paypal’ account to forward your donation to improve my standing on your campus protests of higher education. NOW ALL YOU NEED TO DO IS FIND SOME WORK AND NOT LIVE OFF OF OBAMA ENTITLEMENTS
DACON9 says
FURTHERMORE CHRIS.:
IN YOUR CLOSED BOX OF BRILLIANT EDUCATED PROFESSORS
THERE IS A LABEL PASTED ON THE DOOR READING.
”CAUTION OPEN WITH CARE.
THIS BOX CONTAINS
OVER EDUCATED IDIOTS”
Don’t forget my paypal
Chris Malan says
Proverbs 17:28: Even fools are thought wise when they keep silent; with their mouths shut, they seem intelligent.
Proverbs 15:2: The tongue of the wise commends knowledge, but the mouth of fools gush out folly.
Why advertise it? Keep quiet and only those closest to you will know.
DACON9 says
ATT ROBERT SPENCER:
please add an ‘EDIT’ feature so we can correct our errors and add in a point or two afterwards.
THANKS
Tradiguy says
Yes, I agree Robert. It would be so handy!
Gerald Mucci says
My money is on the brother being a complicit lying POS. Sure, always blame someone else. The government failed. But Islam MOTIVATED and the devout Muslim perpetrated.
Kelley says
I lived in Anchorage for 17 years. It doesn’t surprise me that a jihadi attacker would have spent time in Alaska. It’s only my opinion, but he probably attended the Anchorage mosque. I could be wrong, but I think it’s the largest mosque in a North America. It is called 1st Alaska Masjid & is a 15,000 sq ft bldg on 70 acres. Surprisingly, many Alaskans aren’t even aware of it because Alaskan Muslims were very quiet about it when it was being built. It attracts many Muslims from terrorist countries: Pakistan, Gambia, Somalia, etc.. I don’t think it’s a coincidence that Anchorage has become one of the most dangerous cities to live in. I think the FBI should look for connection between the attacker and the mosque, if they haven’t already!
eternal vigilance says
How many shooters have there been that early on came to the attention of federal authorities? It seems that a series of shooters were reported to fed, state and local authorities who were then turned in for psychiatric evaluation and subsequently released with no follow-up by anybody.
Some of these whackos mated up with ISIS before the fact and some came from within our own military but they were still whacked out and needed incarceration as hazards to public safety.
Chris Malan says
It goes further than just Jihad terrorists and just the USA. Search Google and you will find a long list of murderers who murdered again after being allowed out on bail, parole or having finished their sentences. The same is true for rapists and pedophiles. In all cases, the powers that be that turned these people loose on society were not held accountable.
Ashley says
I found it interesting that when the responding police officer arrived at the girlfriend’s apartment, he saw no physical signs of injury…
https://www.adn.com/alaska-news/crime-courts/2017/01/06/suspect-in-florida-airport-shooting-has-same-name-age-as-anchorage-man/
somehistory says
After thinking about this, reading all of the news accounts and the comments here:
Sometimes, law enforcement, and that can and does include the CIA and FBI, discovers a person who they believe might be thinking of committing a crime. If the person is a known offender, it is all the more likely he/she may be thinking of another crime to commit.
When they find such a person, sometimes they send in someone undercover…be that person an offender/informer or a law enforcement member…to talk with the individual to see if he/she is susceptible to suggestions for committing a crime.
This practice is from where the charges…sometimes valid…of entrapment come.
If this guy was approached by a member of law enforcement or an informer, he might think…if he really did have mental problems…which I still doubt, though he might be a sociopath or similar personality…were *voices* trying to get him to join isis.
If he had been approached with the idea…to see if he would do so or lead the investigation to others who were planning to join…then he showed that he was indeed capable of committing another, very serious, criminal offense…mass murder.
billdeserthills says
Interesting thing about being controlled by ‘secret online messages’ –anytime you become tired of it you can simply stop reading them
DACON9 says
bill deserthill. YES BETTER THEN GETTING MARRIED AGAIN ,SHUT DOWN WHEN YOU LIKE, OPEN UP WHEN YOULIKE. ahhh the freedom of the computer BUT only one probllem bill. the internet is addicting.
Rich says
FBI Knew About Ft. Lauderdale Islamic State Jihadist for 4 Months – Investigated for Child Porn Years Ago..
Ft. Lauderdale shooter was posting on jihadi forums when he was 17 years old in 2007. That twitter account, @Esteban00903, is now closed.
The Fort Lauderdale gunman was known to the FBI for four months prior to this massacre.
http://pamelageller.com/2017/01/fort-lauderdale-gunman-claimed-forced-fight-isis.html/
UNCLE VLADDI says
Stopping him would have been “racist.”
Besides, now their budgets will get a big boost for the new year.
After all, “There’s No Money In Solutions (so please give generously – AGAIN)!”
😉
Robert Crawford says
Did the family try to get him involuntarily committed? If not, why not? If they did, why did the attempt fail?
Phil Copson says
“How does family help someone with severe mental illness/psychosis?” asks Smarty. Taking his gun away and telling the authorities to withdraw his permit might have been a quick, easy start ?
Would have helped a few other people too.
Then you could introduce a simplified three-part application form for gun ownership:
Part One: “Do you wish to own a lethal weapon ?”
Part Two: Tick “Yes”
Part Three: “Then you’re not a fit person to have one.”
A good joke years ago, but times have changed. Maybe every non-Muslim should be required to carry one ?