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France and Germany, intent on national suicide, “concerned” over Trump immigration policy

Jan 29, 2017 11:35 am By Robert Spencer

“Welcoming refugees who are fleeing war is part of our duty,” said French Foreign Minister Jean-Marc Ayrault.

A duty according to whom? Why isn’t protecting your citizens from jihad terrorists who will come into France among the “refugees” your duty? Remember, all of the jihadis who murdered 130 people in Paris in November 2015 had just entered Europe as refugees. Apparently France wants more jihad. And France will get just that.

“France, Germany ‘concerned’ over Trump decisions,” AFP, January 28, 2017:

PARIS — France and Germany are “concerned” over a number of decisions by US President Donald Trump, particularly his move to restrict refugee arrivals, French Foreign Minister Jean-Marc Ayrault said Saturday.

“Welcoming refugees who are fleeing war is part of our duty,” he said following a meeting with his new German counterpart, Sigmar Gabriel.

“We must… ensure that this happens in a fair, just way and with solidarity.”

Trump on Friday signed a sweeping executive order to suspend refugee arrivals and impose tough controls on travelers from seven Muslim countries.

“This decision can only cause us concern. But there are a lot of other issues that are causing us concern”, Ayrault, with Gabriel at his side, said when asked by journalists about the restrictions.

He and Gabriel discussed “at length what we are going to do.”…

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  1. Eovar says

    Jan 29, 2017 at 11:51 am

    I don’t perceive it as my duty to help someone when chances are that that someone will likely kill me. Until I know for sure someone isn’t planning to destroy me I’m not going to help. So those delusional politicians don’t represent me…
    Europe is plagued by politically correct rulers, media and self-acclaimed elite who stick to rules that might be morally right but do not apply when dealing with an ideology that is destructive such as islam. For sticking to those morals will indirectly lead to more innocent victims throughout Europe.

  2. Frank says

    Jan 29, 2017 at 11:51 am

    Don’t these idiots realize that muslims wage war in order to create a massive number of refugees, so they can invade their ‘new’ countries with the help of willing and abetting jerks, who, in the name of humanity, prepare the demise, destruction and suicide of their own people. But it surely looks good in the eyes of politically correct/corrupt people.

    • Robert Lippincott says

      Jan 30, 2017 at 4:06 am

      I Believe You speak the truth and as it was in WWII with Hitler France will Beg us to come bail the out, what a bunch of crap.

  3. Richie says

    Jan 29, 2017 at 11:56 am

    so they feel the US has no right to decide who enters its own country??

    Many of the leftists who oppose this openly admit they dont believe in borders

    • andra says

      Jan 29, 2017 at 12:07 pm

      Merkel says exactly that about Germany. The Germans don´t have the right to decide who may immigrate and who may not. And a greenie said that we are not allowed to do cherry-picking.

      • Phil Copson says

        Jan 29, 2017 at 7:51 pm

        A German “greenie” – more than one actually – has said what a good thing it is that the “blonde-haired, blue-eyed German” will one day be no more, enthusiastically seconded by another German fool who says how good it is that the “Nazis aren’t good at reproducing….”

        See the clips on-line.

        While such people are exultant at the thought of the genocide of their own race, they never seem to take the obvious course of doing away with themselves though – ” to put us out of their misery” so to speak – but instead seem thoroughly intent on living the high-life at our expense while avoiding the company of those whom they so ardently welcome into other people’s neighbourhoods……

        Funny, that.

    • Westman says

      Jan 29, 2017 at 1:22 pm

      If a “nation” has no borders, it ceases, by definition, to be a nation. As France and Germany are illustrating, through EU membership and open “border” policy, a nation is well on its way to the dustbin of history when its citizenship is devalued to represent only access to socialist benefits.

      • gravenimage says

        Jan 29, 2017 at 2:29 pm

        Very true, Westman.

    • WBSM says

      Jan 29, 2017 at 4:51 pm

      Yeah, they want the same thing as the Muslim Brotherhood, the whole world without borders, a caliphate of sharia…

    • Ron says

      Jan 31, 2017 at 9:53 am

      People who don’t believe in borders are incredibly naive. In the starry-eyed world of Utopian dreamers, a place without borders, there would be no nations, no national purpose or culture, no patriotism, no sense of national identity. and no history. Failed societies would be free to transfer their populations and problems to greener pastures, infecting new lands with the same disease

      All people, cultures, values and traditions are not equal, and never were, and kinship and commonality are strong forces which underlie the very notion of nationhood. It is part of the warp and woof of being human. W can ignore reality all we like, but reality will not ignore us.

  4. Christianblood says

    Jan 29, 2017 at 11:58 am

    Shame on them! Let us hope global islamic jihadists and their supporters over run their countries!

    • vladkoval says

      Jan 29, 2017 at 12:19 pm

      Zhirinovsky on jihadi terror attacks in Europe: “We benefit from it! Let them (the Europeans) fucking die!”

      • Christianblood says

        Jan 29, 2017 at 2:21 pm

        vladkoval

        Remember Russians are also Europeans, but true, free European Christians who won’t f-ckin give a dime to this western political-correctness bullshit! Watch:

        • vladkoval says

          Jan 29, 2017 at 2:57 pm

          Stop playing fool about PC.
          You know well that Putin made Quran in Russia immune from accusing in extremism.
          Once in Russia, Robert Spencer, Pamella Geller, and many others would go to prison for what they say, publish and do.
          So, who is the politically correct shitman? Putin ot Trump?

        • vladkoval says

          Jan 29, 2017 at 3:26 pm

          Christianblood posted:
          “Remember Russians are also Europeans”

          You mean formal geography? Armenia is also Europe.
          Or it is a joke?

        • WBSM says

          Jan 29, 2017 at 4:59 pm

          And the power behind those armies will want to have a say who the next patriarch is… There is always a price to pay when a church spreads her legs for the government. That’s why in real Christianity, “pay unto caesar what belongs to caesar” is the norm. Separation of Church and state was invented by Jesus Christ and it is the only way for the Church to keep existing.

        • Angemon says

          Jan 30, 2017 at 6:58 am

          Christianblood posted:

          “vladkoval

          Remember Russians are also Europeans”

          Geographically, you’re about 20-25% right…

          “but true, free European Christians who won’t f-ckin give a dime to this western political-correctness bullshit! ”

          In Russia you can get arrested for preaching the Gospel in the street:

          http://www.christianpost.com/news/christian-leaders-arrested-russia-law-banning-evangelism-outside-churches-goes-into-effect-168852/

          Can you tell me of any Western nation where such a law is in effect? In Russia a jihadi leader who told his followers to kill as many Russians as they could went down as a “hero of the Russian Federation” and had a bridge named after him. Which Western nation did anything similar?

    • Angemon says

      Jan 29, 2017 at 1:21 pm

      Why am I not surprised to see CB gloating and salivating with the prospect of seeing Western nations falling to jihadis?…

      • Christianblood says

        Jan 29, 2017 at 2:24 pm

        Angemon

        I am not surprised at your words because you are a liberal plant, you are a defender of the liberal, politically-correct elite system.

        • vladkoval says

          Jan 29, 2017 at 2:59 pm

          Putin: I would not give a ten cent for the life of the one who comes to muslim regions in Russia and talks about Quran in an impolite way.

        • Wellington says

          Jan 29, 2017 at 5:20 pm

          Angemon is a liberal plant and politically correct, Christianblood? Well, thanks for providing me my best laugh of the day.

        • Angemon says

          Jan 30, 2017 at 3:35 pm

          Christianblood posted:

          “I am not surprised at your words because you are a liberal plant, you are a defender of the liberal, politically-correct elite system.”

          Cry more, your tears of despair are delicious. A “liberal”? If by that you mean a classic liberal, sure, as I’d bet most here are. That would make us “conservatives”. If you don’t know what a classic liberal is, here’s a great reading:

          http://www.allenbwest.com/allen/today-im-outing-liberal-classical-liberal

          I, for one, would be proud to stand alongside Allen West and say “Yes, we are liberals. Classic liberals”.

          And “plant”? Pffft, the only one here with the IQ on the level of vegetable life is you. Remember how you assured me that the US spent millions of dollars to foment rebellion in Ukraine? You even provided me with an online article to back your point – imagine my surprise when the article you gave said that your claim was a lie. Reading past the URL must have been a chore, I bet… Anyway, petty personal attacks are all you can do. After all, you’re trying to defend the indefensible – you want to see Western nations fall to jihadis. I don’t. And if anyone here is a plant for some system, it’s you, the Russian troll who had his ground pulled from under him with Brexit and Trump’s victories, and is now doomed to continue to decry the West and its leaders as a whole while simultaneously saluting specific leaders and individuals – the cognitive dissonance here is headache-inducing.

          Tell me, how do you justify your alleged praise of Trump while at the same time promoting a Russian state propaganda outlet (RT) that’s thoroughly hostile to Trump and its doing its best to undermine him? Oh, and by the way, I’ve asked you this many times and you haven’t answered: are you still living in a Western nation?

    • gravenimage says

      Jan 29, 2017 at 2:34 pm

      Christianblood wrote:

      Shame on them! Let us hope global islamic jihadists and their supporters over run their countries!
      …………………………

      Christianblood, this insanity is rife in Russia, as well:

      “West should learn from Russia to accept Muslim refugees – Patriarch Kirill”

      http://www.interfax-religion.com/?act=news&div=12354

      Unlike you, though, I don’t want to see violent Muslims overrun Russia *or* Western Europe–I don’t want to see *any* Infidels hurt by these insane policies.

      I know your priority is to see the West destroyed, though–even if it hurts Russia in the process. Very disturbing.

      • DFD says

        Jan 29, 2017 at 3:07 pm

        Hi Graven,

        like your comment and completely agree.

        “….Unlike you, though, I don’t want to see violent Muslims overrun Russia *or* Western Europe–I don’t want to see *any* Infidels hurt by these insane policies….”

        Indeed dear lady, indeed.

        “….I know your priority is to see the West destroyed, though–even if it hurts Russia in the process. Very disturbing.”

        I think CB must have some sort of a fixation about western peoples.

        • Wellington says

          Jan 29, 2017 at 4:28 pm

          “I think CB must have some sort of a fixation about western peoples.”

          This applies, DFD, not only to Christianblood but to Russians in general, whether under Czars, First Secretaries or now Putin. The root causes of this xenophobia (and if the Russians aren’t xenophobic then virtually no people are) are complex and of longstanding, and not all of it is Russia’s fault but most of it is.

  5. Kay says

    Jan 29, 2017 at 12:00 pm

    Well, this argument seems to work on compassionate Westerners who have taken in “refugees” against their own interests but . . .
    the quickest answer would be for the rich Arab states of the UN to take them in.
    I have heard that there are air conditioned tents that are all set up and seldom used.
    And there must be ways to help without bringing them into our country.

    • gravenimage says

      Jan 29, 2017 at 2:40 pm

      The air conditioned tents are for the Hadj. They easily could be used for refugees–but Muslim countries do not want them.

      Two reasons for this–firstly, they don’t want Jihad terrorists, either. Secondly, places like Saudi Arabia want to see Muslims invading the West and turning it into another part of Dar-al-Islam.

  6. Vyx says

    Jan 29, 2017 at 12:02 pm

    As an American tourist, I am concerned that a visit to France and Germany could result in my rape or death at the hands of Islamic “refugees.”

    Also… can someone please ask these politicians why 90% of these “refugees” are men who are between 15 and 35 who should be back at home fighting to protect their family?

    • andra says

      Jan 29, 2017 at 12:09 pm

      That is easy to answer. The sponsored flight is too exhausing for women and children. They prefer to follow by plane.

      • gravenimage says

        Jan 29, 2017 at 2:44 pm

        Pfft. No group of genuine refugees has *ever* looked like this. Usually they are women, children, old people, the disabled, and just a smattering of fighting-age men–usually those with families they are committed to.

        Few of these are actual refugees–instead, they are an invasion.

        • Michael Copeland says

          Jan 29, 2017 at 4:14 pm

          An assisted invasion.

  7. andra says

    Jan 29, 2017 at 12:04 pm

    In spite of the anouncement of the government most Germans think Trump is having a good start. For us it is unbelievable that a politician delivers what he promises – and that within eight days! I wish we had a Trump, too. Can´t you give him back to the land of his ancestors?

    • Kay says

      Jan 29, 2017 at 12:07 pm

      (:

    • Gwen says

      Jan 29, 2017 at 12:13 pm

      Or why the vast majority of them don’t come from Syria? And why most of them are Sunni Muslims? And why so many of them have no ID and were born on 1 January 2000?

    • gravenimage says

      Jan 29, 2017 at 3:00 pm

      Thanks, Andra.

    • DFD says

      Jan 29, 2017 at 3:09 pm

      Andra; “….Can´t you give him back to the land of his ancestors?”

      COSIGNED!
      ==========

  8. Michael says

    Jan 29, 2017 at 12:07 pm

    Two braindead, spineless nations.

  9. Westman says

    Jan 29, 2017 at 12:08 pm

    He and Gabriel discussed “at length what we are going to do.”…

    Men of inaction are often confused when others take action, even when informed in advance. Which part of POTUS Trump’s political campaign points of action did they not hear? One can only assume they thought he was the usual politician who forgets campaign promises when the sun goes down. Surprise!

    Keep talking…..

  10. IQ al Rassooli says

    Jan 29, 2017 at 12:09 pm

    As usual the French have more concern for Muslims and Islam than for Christians and Jews because their agenda is Secularism, Globalism, Multiculturalism & SELF DESTRUCTION

    Since they are happy with the Muslim immigrants let them take ALL of 1.5 billion of them

    What America does is none of their business

    If the French people will not elect Marine le Pen and continue the current policies, France will be Muslim within five years

    IQ al Rassooli
    Kafir & Proud!
    MAGA & DTS!

  11. Know Thy Enemy says

    Jan 29, 2017 at 12:18 pm

    Not surprised at all. It was the PM of France who said “We have to learn to live with terrorism”.

    It beggars belief that some people could have a mentality so warped.

    • Westman says

      Jan 29, 2017 at 12:39 pm

      A few hundred dead citizens here and there in France, what does it matter? Pathetic, when a government’s first priority is protecting its citizens. Those lechers they call leaders are arrogant aristocrats. I met a man, living in France, who described it as, “little pockets of privilege”, where success was gaining unique privileges.

    • Michael Copeland says

      Jan 29, 2017 at 4:19 pm

      “We have to learn to live with terrorism” is straightforward dereliction of duty.
      The leader of France is paid to take responsibility for defending the citizens.

  12. Phobic-ist says

    Jan 29, 2017 at 12:20 pm

    I hate that word ‘solidarity’…straight out of the leftists playbook

  13. cs says

    Jan 29, 2017 at 12:35 pm

    PC brainwash destroying nations.

  14. Allan says

    Jan 29, 2017 at 1:15 pm

    They should give up their concern trolling and find a way to be constructive. Or resign.

  15. Angemon says

    Jan 29, 2017 at 1:19 pm

    “Welcoming refugees who are fleeing war is part of our duty,” he said following a meeting with his new German counterpart, Sigmar Gabriel.

    You’ve had the Bataclan – if that didn’t beat sense into you then I don’t know what will. Anyway, there’s a Presidential election coming this year.

  16. Dov Berrol says

    Jan 29, 2017 at 1:19 pm

    Let’s Dubai and Abu Dhabi and other Persian Gulf States are all Muslim countries filled with lots of wealth to build fully furnished apartments for all of these refugees. Malaysia as well. Dubai is spending millions of dollars on theme parks and indoor entertainment centres and resorts and World Expo 2020. Abu Dhabi is building the largest airport in the world. These countries are a short flight from Mecca for those that want to make their annual Muslim pilgrimage. Trump needs to ask these wealthy Arabs to take care of those refugees fleeing any Muslim civil war caused and instigated by their Muslim brothers, period.

    • Dov Berrol says

      Jan 29, 2017 at 1:24 pm

      Sorry…it’s Dubai that is building the biggest airport in the world:

      http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/dubai-plans-worlds-biggest-airport-carry-220-million-passengers-eary-year-uae-emirates-a7478906.html%3Famp?client=safari

      • Dov Berrol says

        Jan 29, 2017 at 1:28 pm

        And the United Arab Emirates has over 5,000 mosques:

        https://www.google.ca/amp/m.gulfnews.com/amp/news/uae/society/more-mosques-to-be-built-in-uae-this-year-1.1369458?client=safari

    • Champ says

      Jan 29, 2017 at 3:27 pm

      “Trump needs to ask these wealthy Arabs to take care of those refugees fleeing any Muslim civil war caused and instigated by their Muslim brothers, period.”

      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

      Precisely, Dov!

  17. somebody says

    Jan 29, 2017 at 1:51 pm

    Europeans and leftist should watch the beauty of islam…

  18. vlparker says

    Jan 29, 2017 at 2:20 pm

    “Welcoming refugees who are fleeing war is part of our duty”

    ……….as long as those refugees aren’t Jewish or Christian.

  19. don vito says

    Jan 29, 2017 at 2:26 pm

    kufrs resisting doing the duty of dhimmis.

  20. gravenimage says

    Jan 29, 2017 at 2:26 pm

    France and Germany, intent on national suicide, “concerned” over Trump immigration policy

    “Welcoming refugees who are fleeing war is part of our duty,” said French Foreign Minister Jean-Marc Ayrault.
    …………………………

    Does it matter to Monsieur Ayrault and his German colleague that many of those “refugees” will continue waging that war–Jihad–this time against French and German citizens? Of course not…

  21. underbed cat says

    Jan 29, 2017 at 2:34 pm

    Why were so many countries such as Afghanistan and Saudi Arabia not included in the migration ban.?

  22. Wellington says

    Jan 29, 2017 at 2:38 pm

    Trump by his actions and words is demonstrating with great clarity how he is a giant and so many other Western leaders are pygmies. It has taken someone like Trump, in charge of a major Western nation, in this instance the most powerful of any nation on earth, to reveal even more so just how great the difference is between doing right and doing wrong. To the extent Trump is thwarted or hated, this serves as evidence of how much ignorance and malevolence exists out there and how doing wrong and stupid things is ordinarily so much easier than doing right and smart things.

    Trump is setting an example for other Western nations to follow. Right now it looks very much as though this will not happen but it should not be forgotten that many Eastern European nations, examples being Hungary and Poland, are aware of the danger which Islam poses to Western Civilization and perhaps over the next few years America and many Eastern European states will draw closer together. I hope so.

    I also hope Putin ceases looking upon Eastern Europe as part of Russia’s domain. It is in Russia’s interest too to see Islam as its chief enemy and not the West and that continued hostility to Eastern Europe, which would include the Baltic States, is actually counter-productive to Russian interests. So, perhaps for the first time in Russian history Russia will cease looking upon its Eastern European neighbors as vassals or enemies, though frankly I don’t hold out much hope here as long as Putin remains at the helm since he seems more concerned with putting the West in its place than putting Islam in its place. But who knows. Perhaps Trump can make a “deal” with Putin about all this. If Trump can’t, I don’t know who can. Fluid times to be sure.

    • DFD says

      Jan 29, 2017 at 4:11 pm

      Hi Wellington,

      very interesting post. I have replied to Billybob about Russia, Putin’s and Russia’s problem with Islam, and their **perceived ** problem with the west. There were others joining in the exchange. Should you be interested, these are on http://tinyurl.com/j3pl52c and part two, further down, on http://tinyurl.com/jycv9pm

      The Russians do have a massive, internal threat from Islam.

  23. Ian says

    Jan 29, 2017 at 2:45 pm

    It dont sounds good for Europe. The so called “Elites” play the humanistic card to bring their countrys in chaos. All tis is part of the game…
    the want that the situation goes out of control. When islamistic extremist will kill people around Europe the will say …we are all socked…bla bal…we must stay together…bla bal we have strong democracy…bla bal til the presure brings fasistic partys on the top….
    Than they are a lilte bit closer in their target…

  24. mortimer says

    Jan 29, 2017 at 2:59 pm

    Foreign Minister Jean-Marc Ayrault must be on the Saudi payroll.

    Western politicians who are opening the gates to jihadists cannot be that naïve.

    I presume they are being bribed. I also read in their remarks that they have not even bothered to learn the jihad doctrine, the kafir doctrine, the Islamic misogyny doctrine, the taqiyya doctrine, or the hatred doctrine (al Walaa wal Baraa) lurking beneath the surface.

    Western elites are entirely LAZY about studying Islam. Nevertheless, they are preposterously claiming advanced knowledge of Islam, without reading even one of the voluminous Islamic books of governance (Sharia law socitieties.

    • gravenimage says

      Jan 29, 2017 at 3:08 pm

      I don’t think they are being bribed–they are just in willful denial over the threat of Islam, and mired in “political correctness”. I have neighbors who think the same way, and they aren’t on the Saudi pay role.

      • Wellington says

        Jan 29, 2017 at 5:25 pm

        Seconded, gravenimage. My unsolicited advice to anyone is never underestimate the depth of willful ignorance. It is fathomless in many.

        • gravenimage says

          Jan 29, 2017 at 5:39 pm

          Yes–even sixteen years after 9/11, many just don’t want to believe that Islam is a threat, and will go through endless mental gymnastics to stay in the dark.

  25. Champ says

    Jan 29, 2017 at 3:25 pm

    France and Germany, intent on national suicide, “concerned” over Trump immigration policy

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Direct your attention elsewhere. Why aren’t you “concerned” that Saudi Arabia isn’t doing more to help? Lean on them for a change.

  26. Bill says

    Jan 29, 2017 at 4:13 pm

    France and Germany can take in the refugees that we are turning away if they are so in love with them.

  27. davej says

    Jan 29, 2017 at 4:39 pm

    Government leaders have a roster of duties, with the safety and protection of their own citizens at the top. Then there are the provision of employment opportunities, health care, a clean environment, education and the continuation and preservation of a culture.

    The “duty to welcome refugees” is very far down the list, so far that it is more of an option than a duty. Given the nature of these “refugees” and the fact that citizens have been granted no choice in the matter, these “leaders” are lying thru their teeth. AKA “uttering falsehoods with feigned sincerity”.

  28. Richard Paulsen says

    Jan 29, 2017 at 6:03 pm

    A plague these so called politicians in Europe. Destroying, acting as if they know better than peole better than themselves.
    How to get rid of them? Just being forced to look forward to the next election, and the next, and the next, and the next one forever it seems.

  29. Waiting says

    Jan 29, 2017 at 9:45 pm

    A plague on all their houses.

  30. Michael Johnson says

    Jan 30, 2017 at 2:42 am

    That’s the reason why France and Germany keeps getting attacks maybe if they would get a back bone we wouldn’t see so much terrorism in Europe

  31. Spike1033 says

    Jan 30, 2017 at 7:03 am

    In a poll last week Le Pen was put at 25% while Villon got 19%. This was a poll of approval for the right. The left in France has lost all credibility. Whether Le Pen or Villon get the presidency it will be a close run thing. The French voting system allows the vote to be split too widely. As Hollande found out in the last election the people will vote for an outsider to give a shock in the first round then vote for the incumbent in the second round. But M Le Pen isn’t like her father; she’s a bright lady who has discarded most of his anti-semitic and frankly stupid policies. Of course the media always portrays her as worst politician since Genghis Khan but in reality is more realist than Hollande or even Villon who seem to believe that the Islamist takeover is a myth.

  32. Screeminmeeme says

    Jan 30, 2017 at 10:28 am

    Yeah, well….these dhimmis should shut up, sit down and take a lesson from President Trump. Their unique cultures are being destroy by Islam while they blather on about ‘duty’.

    Maybe they should do their ‘duty’ and protect their own people from Quran-compliant Muslims who are out to kill them.

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