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German court gives Muslims who attacked synagogue suspended sentences, says attack justified

Jan 13, 2017 8:19 am By Robert Spencer

“A German regional court in the city of Wuppertal affirmed a lower court decision last Friday stating that a violent attempt to burn the city’s synagogue by three men in 2014 was a justified expression of criticism of Israel’s policies.”

Meet the new Germany, same as the old Germany. This ruling is the apotheosis of Islamopandering. Would a German court say that the attempted torching of a mosque was a justified criticism of jihad terror attacks? Of course not. Nor should it. But this ruling shows how desperate German authorities are to appease their rapidly growing and increasingly aggressive Muslim population.

What’s next? A statue of Hitler at the Brandenburg Gate?

“German court calls synagogue torching an act to ‘criticize Israel,'” by Benjamin Weinthal, Jerusalem Post, January 13, 2017:

A German regional court in the city of Wuppertal affirmed a lower court decision last Friday stating that a violent attempt to burn the city’s synagogue by three men in 2014 was a justified expression of criticism of Israel’s policies.

Johannes Pinnel, a spokesman for the regional court in Wuppertal, outlined the court’s decision in a statement.

Three German Palestinians sought to torch the Wuppertal synagogue with Molotov cocktails in July, 2014. The local Wuppertal court panel said in its 2015 decision that the three men wanted to draw “attention to the Gaza conflict” with Israel. The court deemed the attack not to be motivated by antisemitism.

Israel launched Operation Protective Edge in the summer of 2014 to stop Hamas rocket attacks into Israeli territory.

The court sentenced the three men – the 31-year-old Mohamad E., the 26 year-old Ismail A. and the 20-year-old Mohammad A.—to suspended sentences. The men tossed self-made Molotov cocktails at the synagogue. German courts frequently decline to release the last names of criminals to protect privacy.

The attack caused €800 damage to the synagogue. The original synagogue in Wuppertal was burned by Germans during the Kristallnacht pogroms in 1938. Wuppertal has a population of nearly 344,000 and is located in the state of North Rhine-Westphalia.

The court said the men had consumed alcohol and there were no injuries to members of the synagogue.

A 13-year-old who lived near the synagogue and noticed the flames informed the police. Several days before the fire, a person sprayed “Free Palestine” on a wall of the synagogue….

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  1. Achmed says

    Jan 13, 2017 at 8:25 am

    Hitler had his Brown Shirts .. and Merkel has hers. Only difference is that Merkel’s Brown Shirts ate mohammedans.

    Stick a fork in Germany … it’s burnt to a crisp.

    • old white guy says

      Jan 13, 2017 at 8:52 am

      we will probably have to tear it down once again.

      • umbra says

        Jan 13, 2017 at 1:00 pm

        Yes … the US may have to clean up another european mess for the third time.

        • FP says

          Jan 13, 2017 at 1:59 pm

          I am fine with the US assisting in the recovery of Europe from these Islamic invaders, but not unless Europe is willing to show a little initiative and backbone on the front end (like some widespread and consistent civil disobedience against Merkel and her crew). I am not seeing much evidence that these countries are pretty much resigned to their fate. Fear of arrest, fines, or censure for speaking out against Islam are not adequate reasons for keeping silent. This is war.

        • nicu says

          Jan 13, 2017 at 2:30 pm

          USA is also causing much mess – why are all the muslims here ? it IS wanted by the US – and their countries are destroyed – and WE MUST TAKE THAT SCUM as revenge for Hitler !

        • gravenimage says

          Jan 13, 2017 at 3:37 pm

          Nicu, it is not the United States that is sending Muslims to Germany–that is Merkel’s own doing.

        • umbra says

          Jan 14, 2017 at 4:43 am

          @nicu @gravenimage

          islamic hijra to europe during modern times (20th century onwards) began in the 60’s/70’s when european states lost their former islamic majority colonies (mainly in africa and the sub-continent). France began loading itself with north africans and UK with paks. Incidentally, while germany had no ‘colonial’ ROP intake, it took in truckloads of turks, many of whom remained in germany to this day. All these ROP migration to europe had nothing to do US foreign interventions.

          Regarding the current wave of migrants, while a large number do come from countries where the US has intervened militarily (afghanistan, iraq, syria), many other migrants do however, come from africa and even as far as pak and bangladesh where there are/were no US military intervention. This is an islamic invasion driven by islamic dictates. The ROP is in europe because europeans allowed it – with some of their governments actively encouraging and enabling it. Japan, South Korea, Singapore and Republic of China do not have ROP (migration) issues. These are wealthy developed countries. Why is that?

      • Pete says

        Jan 14, 2017 at 12:34 pm

        Perhaps Britain and the US should invade and declare them a protectorate.

    • John says

      Jan 13, 2017 at 10:40 pm

      Germany needs to grow a pair. It appears they have lost their greatness. US is trying to get their greatness back …. Obama destroyed the US greatness. Germany make a change. Make Germany great again.

    • Tom says

      Jan 14, 2017 at 9:21 am

      Si vis pacem, para bellum. We are at war with Islam and apparently, only those astute enough to be on this site are aware of that fact.

      Germany, the UK and France must be saved. I really believe it will be WW III.

    • Morty Mooze says

      Jan 14, 2017 at 9:34 am

      The Muslim conquest of western Europe has given new momentum to the traditional European ant-Jew attitudes that have been suppressed since the end of WW2.

      • Tom says

        Jan 15, 2017 at 12:47 am

        You know, I did not think of that. Very good insight. It will be interesting what Mr Trump and Israel do next.

    • Marty says

      Jan 14, 2017 at 11:53 am

      As Germany returns to the 1930s, let’s not forget that
      mohammedanism was Hitler’s preferred religion.
      He, rightly, observed that Christianity was a Jewish heresy.
      In the Fourth Reich that is the EU, Hitler’s work in driving out Jews
      is being conducted by muslims.
      Mainly in France, where mohammedans constitute 10% of
      the population.
      The sooner that vile pseudo state cracks up the better for all decent people.

  2. girlgirl says

    Jan 13, 2017 at 8:28 am

    “Three German Palestinians sought to torch the Wuppertal synagogue with Molotov cocktails in July, 2014. The local Wuppertal court panel said in its 2015 decision that the three men wanted to draw “attention to the Gaza conflict” with Israel. The court deemed the attack not to be motivated by antisemitism”

    can we do the same in german salafist-run mosques? I guess no.

    • Mirren10 says

      Jan 13, 2017 at 9:34 am

      You appear to be suggesting/implying there is some kind of difference between Salafism, and mainstream Islam.

      There is none.

      • Car says

        Jan 13, 2017 at 11:18 pm

        Which is not to be confused with Sufiism, which is considered a heretical non Islamic religion by Muslims.

        • Car says

          Jan 13, 2017 at 11:24 pm

          Actually sorry, I did a more in depth search and even though they may be considered heretics by the majority of Muslims they still seem to accept Jihad and Sharia by some of their quotes I found here.

          http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2005/05/sufi_jihad.html

        • Robert Brooks says

          Jan 14, 2017 at 2:23 am

          Did you say “Smurfism”? That’s why they wear those little hats?

    • tom parry says

      Jan 13, 2017 at 1:30 pm

      My bet they will not be deported, probally lost their papers, any ways which country except Germany want these antijewish pyromanics? Time for Jews to be afraid again in Europe , especially Germany. This is just unbelievable!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • Pong says

        Jan 13, 2017 at 4:00 pm

        Germany, as well as the rest of Europe, cannot forgive jews the Holocaust. Expression of anti-semitism by germans puts them in an uncomfortable position. It is much better when someone else does it. After all, getting ones bum in the air 5 times a day is a small price to pay for the dreem of the final solution.

        • Elena Palatini says

          Jan 13, 2017 at 8:01 pm

          ….
          Final Solution?
          Shame to you

  3. Lawrence says

    Jan 13, 2017 at 8:31 am

    Meet the new Germany same as the old Germany indeed. And what Israeli policies? Building homes. Manning checkpoints to prevent jihad terror? And when Muslims blow one another’s mosques up and murder, abduct one another, en masse? Also Israel’s fault? Maybe Auschwitz is Israel’s fault as well.

    • Manual Paleologos says

      Jan 13, 2017 at 8:42 am

      Absolutely. Germany, Europe really, will never forgive the Jews for Auschwitz.

      • John Galt III says

        Jan 13, 2017 at 9:13 am

        Some Jews are really idiots.

        Why would any Jew BE in such a country. Germany is cesspool and oh by the way Hitler made it very clear he preferred Islam to Christianity.

        • andra says

          Jan 13, 2017 at 9:42 am

          Just for your Information. Germany has not been Hiltler-Germany since 1945.
          For the last decades Germany was the main Destination for Russian Jews after the US and Israel.
          If the two aggressors had been Bio-Germans they would habe been convicted for antisemitism for at least ten years.
          The problem here is not an increasing antisemitism in the German population. It is the fact that antisemitism is imported with the “Newcomers” and the lefties have fraternized with Islam ever since the 60ies. Another Problem is that the Jewish leaders in Germany, namely Mr. Schuster or Ms. Knobloch bow to Islam as much als the Christian leaders and the politicians.

      • RichardL says

        Jan 13, 2017 at 11:01 am

        Those we have wronged we never forgive.

        Was is Seneca?

        It is not so much Jew hatred that the judges displayed but islamophilia. The end result is the same of course.

        • Westman says

          Jan 13, 2017 at 11:15 am

          Yes, justifying the conduct of hatred toward Jews has the same effect as antisemitism and is even anti-Christian – the equivalent of justifying the Good Samaritan story robber.

      • nicu says

        Jan 13, 2017 at 2:38 pm

        And exactly that’s why Nobody helps us with that Muslim invasion : they want Germans and Muslim kill each other — after 80 years !

        Shame on you : ALL of you ( USA , GB , France etc ) did horrible things but only Germany is stupid enough to feel guilt and pay and pay – My parents are victims , too : my dad in Nagasaki ( oh yes ! ) and my mum in Cologne – They are not guilty and I am not guilty , too – but we will get blackmailed as long as Germany exists !

        • Kay says

          Jan 13, 2017 at 2:45 pm

          Do you know, another name for satan is the accuser?
          Don’t accept false guilt.
          The accusations are flying and will continue: bigot, racist, nazi . . .

        • Elena Palatini says

          Jan 13, 2017 at 8:09 pm

          How stupid are german People.
          Therefore Sex attacks by mus.lims
          At the last year eve.
          But they say nothing.ggggg

        • Carpediadem says

          Jan 14, 2017 at 3:32 am

          Nobody helps with your Muslim invasion because they are busy dealing with their own and Germany caused that Muslim invasion via EU.

        • andra says

          Jan 14, 2017 at 5:59 am

          Carpediadem says
          January 14, 2017 at 3:32 am
          Nobody helps with your Muslim invasion because they are busy dealing with their own and Germany caused that Muslim invasion via EU.
          ————————–

          It was not Germany who caused this Invasion. This Invasion of Europe started in the 60ies, when de Gaulles wanted to fill France with more “French” than there were Germans. Therefore he imported the Magreb-people.

          In the 70ies it was Sweden which oipened the gates. and in 2002 it was Blair in GB. Germany only was the top of the iceberg.

    • gravenimage says

      Jan 13, 2017 at 3:50 pm

      Good post, Lawrence.

    • Car says

      Jan 13, 2017 at 11:29 pm

      It is always the Jew’s fault according to Islamics and Marxists, it is actually written into Islamic scriptures. It is truly an example of the demonic supernatural how Jews are hated so much in a baseless way.

  4. Paul says

    Jan 13, 2017 at 8:32 am

    Of course if three non-Muslim men tossed self-made bacon sandwiches at a mosque, causing absolutely zero damage, after having consumed alcohol, and there were no injuries to members of the mosque …

    • Dan says

      Jan 13, 2017 at 9:04 am

      Yeah, we all saw what happened to the only person who had the cajones to do that.

      A year in prison for “Hate Crimes” and Muslim prisoners executed him six months in.

      Yet torching a synagogue is not a hate crime.

      For the longest time I’d been saying Germany has paid enough for its history.

      Just like I never had slaves, or killed Indians, the vast majority of Germans today never killed any Jews.

      But…

      If this kind of garbage happens, then the Germans are either dhimmi stupid, or they’re still anti Semite.

      • RichardL says

        Jan 13, 2017 at 11:03 am

        I am German and I am not sure what it is.

        But verdicts like this open people’s eyes…

        • Gene says

          Jan 13, 2017 at 12:22 pm

          Only if it’s reported in the German press.

        • Kay says

          Jan 13, 2017 at 1:38 pm

          What are Germans saying and writing about this verdict?

        • Elena Palatini says

          Jan 13, 2017 at 8:21 pm

          Germany is responsable For this situation.
          Your cancellor….

        • RL Robison says

          Jan 14, 2017 at 10:07 am

          Verdicts like this should scare Germans to death!! If violence and murder can be overlooked by the court system because of grievances occurring in another country, then there really is no justice for anyone. This verdict really means that Jews can bomb mosques (since Palestinians continually rocket attack Israel), Christians can bomb Hindus (because Christians are attacked by Hindus in India), atheists can attack any religious site, and on and on. These judges were either cowed by fears of being labeled Islamophobic or were expressing their own deep-felt antisemitism.

      • Guest says

        Jan 13, 2017 at 3:00 pm

        Kay: here is what the German Jewish paper Juedische Allgemeine is saying: http://www.juedische-allgemeine.de/article/view/id/27477

        “A sign of the antisemitism can be seen in the double standards: nobody would think of attacking a Hindu monastry to protest against India’s politics, or a mosque, to position themselves against Erdogan or ‘against Turkey’. And if someone did that, they would hardly expect to get a judge who would see legitimate or ‘India-‘ or ‘Turkey-critique’ in it.

        Ein Merkmal, an dem man Antisemitismus erkennen kann, sind jedoch die doppelten Standards, die angelegt werden: Niemand käme auf die Idee, ein hinduistisches Kloster anzugreifen, um gegen die Politik Indiens zu protestieren, oder eine Moschee, um sich gegen Erdogan oder gleich »gegen die Türkei« zu positionieren. Und wer so etwas täte, könnte kaum mit einem Richter rechnen, der in seiner Gewalttat so etwas wie legitime »Indien-« oder »Türkeikritik« erkennen wollte.

        • gravenimage says

          Jan 13, 2017 at 3:51 pm

          Thanks for the information, Guest. I wonder what the rest of the press in Germany is saying?

        • Alien Republican says

          Jan 13, 2017 at 10:03 pm

          @Gravenimage:

          “I wonder what the rest of the press in Germany is saying?”
          —
          I don’t know of ONE single traditinal print media in Germany that opposes Merkel’s policies.

          You will find a few quite good ones online. One of which “Tichy’s Einblick” solid conservative in perspective – recently “caused” a stir because it was slandered as “extreme right”. In that case at least the denunciator had to quit his job but the damage is still there. Some companies no longer place their advertisements there.

      • Elena Palatini says

        Jan 13, 2017 at 8:15 pm

        In the fact the court does not condamne the Attack against the sinagogue in this event there is the dimonstration of theyr supidity.
        So we cannot fight Islam and so forth and so on.

      • Dave says

        Jan 14, 2017 at 7:25 am

        Germany is going to burn. The Islamist saying is first Saturday (Jews) then Sunday (Christians)
        So sad but it is clear this is germanys modern destiny .
        Karma is a bitch!

  5. Peter says

    Jan 13, 2017 at 9:12 am

    Looks like the German political class has found its new savior: Muhammad.

    Heil Muhammad?
    Sieg Islam?

    No, thanks.

    • Elena Palatini says

      Jan 13, 2017 at 8:19 pm

      So true.but i dont want to become muslim….

  6. Infidel Task Force says

    Jan 13, 2017 at 9:29 am

    and here is the rise of the fourth Reich

  7. Richie says

    Jan 13, 2017 at 9:35 am

    Sounds like the German hatred of Jews still exists. I don’t think crushing Hitler dispelled the deep antisemitism in that country, i think it just went underground, and is now starting to reemerge.

    I always thought the reason Merkel is allowing Muslims to flood into Germany is that she knows they hate Jews

    Makes me hope Germany does completely collapse.

    • Alien Republican says

      Jan 13, 2017 at 11:58 am

      ” I don’t think crushing Hitler dispelled the deep antisemitism in that country,”
      —
      There is no deep anti-semitism in that country. Critical thinking, dissenting, public debate has been supressed to an extend that is hard to explain.

      The familiar “racism card” is even worse in Germany in the sense that, even the use of simple words may rethoricly quickly turned WITH effect into the equivalent of the N-word, if the word even only remotely can be connected to vocabulary favored by Nazis.

      ” I don’t think crushing Hitler dispelled the deep antisemitism in that country”
      —
      It didn’t because Hitler is the scapegoat for ALL evil in WW2. While the original sin the fore-father of having the Nazis come to power is force-fed to every innocent german kid there was never a discussion of what in their culture and mentality was conducive to it.

      • Kay says

        Jan 13, 2017 at 1:51 pm

        “Critical thinking, dissenting, public debate has been supressed to an extend that is hard to explain.”

        I believe it and I see it starting to happen here, at least in the “blue” states. In several public institutions, a person only has to “feel” that someone has said or meant something discriminatory (racist).

        So conversation is stopped simply by all the accusations of bigotry, racism, etc.– regardless that the accusations are groundless.

    • gravenimage says

      Jan 13, 2017 at 3:53 pm

      Really? You want to see a Muslim state in the heart of Europe? Even if you think Germans deserve this, what would it do to her neighbors?

      • Pong says

        Jan 13, 2017 at 4:21 pm

        Unfortunately, the Rubicon has been crossed. It is not if, but when Germany will become a moslem state with strong turkish influence. I think such statements are an expression of despair rother then a wishful thinking.

    • Custos Custodum says

      Jan 13, 2017 at 7:29 pm

      I always thought the reason Merkel is allowing Muslims to flood into Germany is that she knows they hate Jews.

      More importantly, Merkel’s patrons here in the U.S. know that the Muslims being flooded into all of Western Europe hate Jews, and regard this as a useful side benefit.

      The main purpose is apparently to ease Western Europe into acceptance of totalitarian government by mass-murdering Leftist power worshipers, combined with market manipulation and arbitrage on a massive scale.

      This also explains the being spewed against recalcitrant Eastern countries such as Poland and Hungary who simply refuse to “get with the program.”

      • Alien Republican says

        Jan 13, 2017 at 10:14 pm

        “More importantly, Merkel’s patrons here in the U.S”
        –
        Boring. “Imperialist”, “Nazi”, “Jew”, “Bad Russian”. Use on those scape goats terms in your comments and my mind wanders off….

        Whatever one might think of former German Chanceller Schröder, he opposed supporting the US’s invasion of Iraq and so did Jaques Chirac. Which proves that each and every of the eurpean “leaders” can act independently if they want. The current sorry state of Germay is Merkel’s doing alone.

      • Anne Smith says

        Jan 14, 2017 at 12:19 pm

        Merkel has sponsored the huge influx of Muslims into Germany because she is acting on Obama’s orders.

        He is behind most of her actions. Much of this has come to light recently.

  8. Keys says

    Jan 13, 2017 at 9:48 am

    “What’s next? A statue of Hitler at the Brandenburg Gate?”

    A statue of Mohammad would be haram, but how about an arab horseman with raised scimitar about to slay a naked, cowering Europa?

  9. EmHotep says

    Jan 13, 2017 at 9:55 am

    http://mobil.n-tv.de/mediathek/videos/politik/Debatte-fuehrt-zu-Schlaegerei-im-tuerkischen-Parlament-article19541526.html

  10. somehistory says

    Jan 13, 2017 at 9:57 am

    This is truly disgusting. It cannot be called, in any shape or form, justice.

  11. Troybeam says

    Jan 13, 2017 at 10:02 am

    The German Citizens betrayed by their own elected officials: revolution about to hit Germany something like the French Revolution of 1789, only this time it will be natural citizens against the government and immigrants that rape and murder the German citizens.

  12. Hank says

    Jan 13, 2017 at 10:51 am

    Maybe next time the Muslims will exercise their free speech by burning down the courthouse.

  13. Tommy says

    Jan 13, 2017 at 11:10 am

    Judges and school teachers are destroying FREEDOM!

  14. Vincent Simmons says

    Jan 13, 2017 at 11:11 am

    At what point in history did a Jew have any expectation of justice from a German court. The only consolation is that they will be destroyed by the very people they are nurturing. I hope I live to see it.

  15. Alien Republican says

    Jan 13, 2017 at 11:21 am

    Free pass for burning Synagoges and Churches and prision for dressing up mosques with ham ?I can’t believe the story and need to read the background.

    • Alien Republican says

      Jan 13, 2017 at 11:33 am

      The horror. The “judges” don’t see their throwing of molotov cocktails at the synagogue as a clear cut anti-semtic action but rather in the context of politically protesting against Israel.

      What twisted reasoning in any case. In order to protest against Israel palestinians attack “GERMAN jews”. Apparently the “judges” don’t consider their jewish citizens to be real german citizens anyway and are in line with the “willing executioners” of WW2. Throwing incendiary bombs at buildings is accepting that any people therein may burn to death and a felony in ANY case. Disgusting.

      • Kay says

        Jan 13, 2017 at 1:57 pm

        I agree on both counts. It’s disgusting. So disgusting that it’s disturbing to accept that it really happened.
        As so much about Mohammedens, it’s mind-boggling.

  16. mortimer says

    Jan 13, 2017 at 11:21 am

    The socialist Leftist Jew-hating Nazis are really no different from Hitler’s s national SOCIALIST Jew-hating Nazis.

    The modern German socialist have lost their compass. They are in a mass delusion … again!

    • john spielman says

      Jan 13, 2017 at 12:43 pm

      islam – the new NAZIISM

  17. eowyn von rohan says

    Jan 13, 2017 at 11:29 am

    Well, there is a lot of hatred against Germany and the Germans uttered here. I agree that this judge is a katastrophe, but he is not “The Germans”. I guess he is a leftie – they don´t hide their dislike of Israel – all around the world.
    But let me ask you something: Whose cities are going to be “Jew-free” in Europe. There is Malmö in Sweden, where none jewish citizen is left. It is France with the highest number of emigration to Israel, France is losing more then half of its jewish population. It is NOT GERMANY!
    Who is going to accept a State Palestine at the UN? It where first Sweden and France who said there is a State Palestine, Germany refused to follow. It where New Zealand, Venzuela and some African States, who blamed Israel for their settlement politics – it was NOTGERMANY!
    It is President Obama who let down Israel and made a deal with Iran .- not Germany.
    We had WWII yes, but it is more than seventy (70!) years ago now. Other countries did horrible things to mankind as well – no other country had to pay for thwelve years of horror for this long time.
    It is, what the lefties in Germany pray for – if they would pray. They are longing for the total destruction of my country. Their slogans are: Deutschland du mieses Stück Sch… (Germany you stinky piece of sh….), Deutschland verrecke (Germany rot) or Nie wieder Deutschland (Never again Germany). Can you imagine Americans or British or French to shout this in the US, GB or France?
    Merkel is doing what she is doing, for just this reason: NEVER AGAIN GERMANY. Therefor she is filling our countriy with islamic invadors. Either they are going to win over us – or if this fails – the world is going to hate Germany and the Germans the next hundred years – she will win anyway: Germany as I know it and love it will be destroyed.
    So give us your hate – we are used to it.

    • Alien Republican says

      Jan 13, 2017 at 11:41 am

      “So give us your hate – we are used to it.”
      —
      The sad thing is the the very same people that were so obsessed with Germany’s reputation and “learning from the past” are achieving the worst outcome possible for Germany AND Europe.

      And for a few decades all went very well for Germany AND Europe. But that was under the leadership of politicians who had experienced the war and not the 3rd-class carrier politicians that came later.

    • Charli Main says

      Jan 13, 2017 at 12:17 pm

      I don’t hate Germany. I am deeply saddened by the systematic destruction of your country by the Communist brain washed ” East” Germans that appear to have infiltrated every aspect of your country’s political and judicial system.
      The Berlin Wall may be down but there seems to be no shortage of people ready and eager to continue Moscow’s work, in bringing down ” Western” society.

    • umbra says

      Jan 13, 2017 at 1:52 pm

      You appear to suggests that the real problem with germany rests squarely on ‘lefties’ and its leaders. You may be right. Firstly, it is the german people who elects its leaders. If actions and behaviour of the german authority reflects a particular view, then for any observer, this would be seen as a reflection of the views of the majority of germans. Otherwise, why vote for (and put into positions of authority) individuals who do not represent ones own values and views. Second, the fault here must lie partially with the german people/voters. Perhaps it is wishful thinking on the part of the german electorate (promises made by politicians) or perhaps it is social conditioning (‘leftism’) from the education system, but the german people got what they voted for. What they voted for over the years eventually led to this ridiculous verdict.

      People with common sense do not hate others because of the ethnic backgroud, they hate their illogical behaviours and reasoning that eventually lead to catastrophic outcomes. Harsh comments here are centred on the court verdict, which was produced by a judge who was appointed by politicians elected by german voters. And so, if one follows the chain, the source of the problem seems to be the german people.

      • nicu says

        Jan 13, 2017 at 2:41 pm

        Merkels last election was FRAUD !

        • umbra says

          Jan 14, 2017 at 4:50 am

          And so there is an opportunity this year for germans to remedy the mistake that is merkel.

          The views of many here would be corrected or confirmed later in the year.

    • Kay says

      Jan 13, 2017 at 2:07 pm

      eowyn,
      I’m sorry for the hate against Germany posted here.

      We’re all in this together. Their are many faithless leaders, both in the governments and the churches. I don’t understand how it got so bad.

      The issue of separate court rulings for different groups should never have started. Following it can only lead to bad results. I hope the German citizenry still has a chance to appeal the ridiculous ruling.

      • Kay says

        Jan 13, 2017 at 2:08 pm

        Their should be there.

    • somehistory says

      Jan 13, 2017 at 2:15 pm

      I do not hate Germany or Germans. Much of my ancestry is German. I have always wanted to visit the country, since I was a little child.

      What the government there is doing is very wrong and every citizen is suffering for the decisions made by merkle, the judge in this case and others of their like-mindedness.

      It is a terrible thing and the people of Germany have much sympathy from those of us who care about justice and what is right.

    • nicu says

      Jan 13, 2017 at 2:43 pm

      Germany always will be hated for the Shoah – since 1945 and it has never changed . Ask my dad about nagasaki !

    • gravenimage says

      Jan 13, 2017 at 3:55 pm

      I don’t hate Germans–far from it. I want to see patriotic Germans stand up for their civilized nation.

    • Elena Palatini says

      Jan 13, 2017 at 8:32 pm

      Du bist Total verrückt….
      Besser dass du nicht hier schreibst.

      • Alien Republican says

        Jan 13, 2017 at 10:18 pm

        Elena: Is there a reason for thinking that the commenter is crazy or does he just hurt your feelings ?

    • Champ says

      Jan 13, 2017 at 10:32 pm

      eowyn von rohan wrote:

      Well, there is a lot of hatred against Germany and the Germans uttered here.

      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

      This remark isn’t true, along with the remainder of “eowyn von rohan’s” comment. This comment serves to demonstrate the lengths that someone will go to spread false information and how rumors get started.

    • RL Robison says

      Jan 14, 2017 at 10:42 am

      I’m an American, and I don’t hate Germany. I DO hate what happened in Germany in the 20th century and the resulting loss of all those millions of lives (Jewish and otherwise). But I also believe that a country must not be forced to pay forever for a crime committed by the current generation’s grand-parents or great-grand-parents.

      So “NO”, I don’t want to see the death of Germany; I want to see Germans say “NO” to Merkel and her policy of delivering Germany into the hands of the barbarians. What is happening now in Germany, France, Holland, Sweden, Belgium, Great Britain, Austria, Switzerland, Indonesia, Greece, Denmark, Portugal, Spain, America, Canada and Italy (not to even mention South America) is setting the world up for a total, doomsday conflict – which is exactly what Mohammad and his Islamic “religion” wants! Either the West faces reality today and stands firm or we face WWIII tomorrow.

  18. davej says

    Jan 13, 2017 at 1:15 pm

    At it’s peak only 10% of the German population were members of the Nazi Party. The rest mostly indulged and appeased them. Now they are doing the same thing to the New Nazis who are succeeding due to their exploitation of the Religious Grievance Industry. Very similar to the rise of the Black Lives Matter in the US, only theirs is the Racial Grievance Industry. (For an eyeopener on BLM look at Taleeb Starkes’ book).

    One can only hope that modern Germans will recognize that they are being manipulated again, but this case is worrying – looks like the death of law and order with the creation of a special class of new victim/aggressors.

    • Kay says

      Jan 13, 2017 at 2:11 pm

      ” The rest mostly indulged and appeased them.”
      It looks to me like this is happening all over the West concerning Mohammedens, most shamefully in the churches.

    • nicu says

      Jan 13, 2017 at 2:44 pm

      Germans are always the nazis –in our countries if dictatorship happened ( often supported by the US ) – they feel for the people – but of course evil germans deserve this – hey , WWII is over !!!!

      • Kay says

        Jan 13, 2017 at 2:57 pm

        No one deserves the destruction Mohammedens are wreaking on the world. No one.

        Even in the US people were called Nazi for wanting to stem the influx of Mohammedens. But the more effective accusation here is bigot or racist.

        Each of us also belongs to a group where leaders are making grievous decisions or others are stupidly engaging in pro-Mohammeden activities: women, Catholics, British, etc . . .
        Our own individual power is so limited.
        We aren’t against each other.
        You aren’t the judge who made the ruling. What is the German press saying about this ruling? How about the populace?

        • gravenimage says

          Jan 13, 2017 at 3:56 pm

          Agreed, Kay.

  19. davej says

    Jan 13, 2017 at 1:19 pm

    In both cases if you oppose them you are a “racist”, which true liberals find very hurtful and so can be played like a fish on a line.

    Did they have “Naziphobics” back in the 1930’s?

  20. CeeKay says

    Jan 13, 2017 at 1:43 pm

    Why doesn’t Germany just get it over with? Enough with the slow tortuous suicide, and pull that blade across their throat already.

    It astounds me that Germany’s citizens have simply folded and seemingly are willingly allowing themselves to be marched into a political Sharia gas chamber. Apparently, living under the Nazi regime and its atrocities taught them nothing more than capitulation. ?

    • Alien Republican says

      Jan 13, 2017 at 10:24 pm

      “Apparently, living under the Nazi regime and its atrocities taught them nothing more than capitulation.”
      —
      They did “capitulate” when the Red Army knocked at Hitler’s door almost literally. Apparently their capacity for suffering for their leaders knows no limits.

  21. Lenny the Truth says

    Jan 13, 2017 at 2:07 pm

    The German courts found that Arabs living in Germany have a right to protest Israel? And, they are allowed to protest violently? Did Rod Serling write this, or has Germany slipped into “The Twilight Zone?”

  22. somehistory says

    Jan 13, 2017 at 2:08 pm

    There was a Seinfeld episode where George took a shower, immediately got hot and perspiring and said, “It (the shower) didn’t take.”

    It looks like the “Never again” didn’t take. As for as Germany is concerned.

  23. JayT says

    Jan 13, 2017 at 2:13 pm

    What’s the sound of that digging? Why it’s the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Mohammed Amin al-Husseini, rising from the grave to lead Germany against the Jews as he once did before with Hitler.

    “Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it” – George Santayana.

  24. carl says

    Jan 13, 2017 at 2:19 pm

    you’d think that germany would’ve learned it’s lesson after ww2 and the days of the berlin wall, but now the whole country is sinking back into the abyss

  25. Angemon says

    Jan 13, 2017 at 2:30 pm

    A German regional court in the city of Wuppertal affirmed a lower court decision last Friday stating that a violent attempt to burn the city’s synagogue by three men in 2014 was a justified expression of criticism of Israel’s policies.

    Violence as a “justified expression” of criticism? Insanity. Sheer insanity. But there’s a silver lining here: Germans can now express their “criticism” of Merkel in a way previously thought to be against the law…

  26. nicu says

    Jan 13, 2017 at 2:40 pm

    Thank you ANDRA – there are Americans who still believe Hitler is alive and ruling us !

    NO brain , no education !

  27. Guest says

    Jan 13, 2017 at 3:20 pm

    What the hell is wrong with these people?!?

  28. gravenimage says

    Jan 13, 2017 at 3:35 pm

    German court gives Muslims who attacked synagogue suspended sentences, says attack justified
    ………………………….

    Well, that is just horrifying.

    And even if–as is obvious–this appalling cares nothing for Jewish people, doesn’t he grasp that these Muslims’ next target is apt to be a church, or a school, or the *judge’s own court*?

    • gravenimage says

      Jan 13, 2017 at 3:58 pm

      This story was posted right after I commented above:

      “Germany: Muslims ‘devastate’ Christian parish centre, write ‘Islamist’ slogans on walls, police search for motive”

      https://www.jihadwatch.org/2017/01/germany-muslims-devastate-christian-parish-centre-write-islamist-slogans-on-walls-police-search-for-motive

      Would this judge think this is justified, as well?

      • efoc says

        Jan 13, 2017 at 6:16 pm

        As they have now set the precedent, you would have to say “yes”.

        • gravenimage says

          Jan 13, 2017 at 7:12 pm

          efoc, maybe this judge only feels Muslims running amok is “justified” when the victims are Jews…

        • efoc says

          Jan 13, 2017 at 11:35 pm

          Indeed gravenimage – I wouldn’t be surprised. What a sad place this world is sometimes.

      • andra says

        Jan 14, 2017 at 6:22 am

        In this case the outcome of court proceedings, if they ever happen, which I doubt, will be the same. With Muslim Background you will not be convicted for crimes like that. We just have the case of an attack on a sikh temple. The three Muslim attackers are under age and you can bet that the worst punishment they gef is social work.

        The politicians and judges in Germany are too frightened or too well paid to opose against Islam.

  29. Pong says

    Jan 13, 2017 at 3:52 pm

    “Would a German court say that the attempted torching of a mosque was a justified criticism of jihad terror attacks? ”
    Not a good comparison. Torching a mosque would be a justified criticism of jihad terror attacks, as these are the places where moslems find inspiration for those attacks.

    • Salome says

      Jan 13, 2017 at 4:15 pm

      I wonder what a Christian would get for leaving a slice of bacon in a mosque in protest at the treatment of Christians in Muslim countries?

  30. ElderlyZionist says

    Jan 13, 2017 at 4:11 pm

    I don’t condemn Germans in general for this appalling court decision. But I hope that these unjust judges receive for themselves in full what they justify for others. With speed and in our days.

  31. Salome says

    Jan 13, 2017 at 4:17 pm

    Rule Number One of Immigration, to be rigorously enforced in the New Country: Do not act out in the New Country the violent conflicts of the Old Country.

  32. JayT says

    Jan 13, 2017 at 4:25 pm

    nicu says

    January 13, 2017 at 2:40 pm

    Thank you ANDRA – there are Americans who still believe Hitler is alive and ruling us !

    NO brain , no education !
    —————————————————————————————————————————–

    I must have missed which poster said they believed Hitler was still alive and ruling Germany. Changing the narrative to fit your story is a child’s tactic in a debate.

    “No brain, no education!” So, all these posters critical of the German judges response are uneducated compared to you?

    Germany because of it’s abundantly clear past history with Jews isn’t supposed to be just as faulty as other countries, it needs to hold itself to a higher standard since it was the actual perpetrator of such atrocities, clear enough? The South, the former Confederacy, initiated and supported Jim Crow laws to the detriment of a once enslaved people. We call this not learning from your past and it applies here, too.

    Judges in particular hold vast power over current and future precedents. When judges “go bad” it is something to be very concerned about. Had this been an article concerning a dozen Germans yelling and shouting with signs on a corner street, I would not opine the way I did. But it wasn’t just ordinary Germans, was it?

    Andra’s arguments about “hey look at what Germany has become for the Jews in the recent past” falls on deaf ears when the same Jews and more are now living in a dichotomy of ideals from enlightened views on Jews to how these judges now operate. So, Andra’s failing point is this, which you applaud – Because I used to beat and starve and kill you in the past, but then I treated you well afterwards, there is absolutely no cause for concern when the signs show I am now taking out my beating stick once again starting with the laws.

    • andra says

      Jan 14, 2017 at 6:38 am

      You Forget in your argumentation that the Jewish lobby in Germany applauded to the appeacement towards Islam. Just go ahead and google Josef Schuster. He is the actual leader of the Jewish Central Commetee of Germany. And he is applauiding to Aiman Maziek – the leader of the Muslim Commetee – when this one is oposing against Islam critics or those who mention the Muslim antisemitism. The same goes for Charlotte Knobloch, one of hs predecessors Even These lobbyists claim that the Muslims are the new jews in Europe and Germany.
      Two years ago we had a Muslim ralley for Al-Kuds-Day where the People shouted: Jews to the gas. For a Born German Person this is a Major crime which leads directly into jail. These People, however, were not even persecuted. And there was no official protest, even the Jewish Central Commitee was silent.
      But they ran to the Mosque after Charlie Hebod to prove their alliance with the Muslims.

    • Kadok says

      Jan 14, 2017 at 10:54 am

      You CAN DO NOTHING ABOUT THE PAST, but you can DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE FUTURE.

  33. theendofthedemonrat says

    Jan 13, 2017 at 9:50 pm

    Nazis then and nazis now. Let them rot this tine in their own excrement they created.

  34. Kepha says

    Jan 13, 2017 at 10:11 pm

    Being partly descended from Central European Jews, I can only say this:

    Hitlers Geist geht unter uns.

  35. Truth Hurts says

    Jan 14, 2017 at 3:16 am

    Very sad to see the city whose namesake is attached to the famous German Wuppertal clocks has lost its shine and clout because of its local court’s twisted and perverted support of Islamic terrorism.

  36. Dustin Koellhoffer says

    Jan 14, 2017 at 10:50 am

    Lest anyone forget, or if you didn’t know, Islam allied with the Germans in WWI and even more so with Hitler’s Nazis in WWII.

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