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Robert Spencer in The Hill: Lindsay Lohan may have made her worst life choice yet

Jan 18, 2017 9:16 am By Robert Spencer

UPDATE: The Left-fascists at The Hill have caved in to pressure from Leftist and Islamic supremacist neo-brownshirts, and pulled this piece. However, it is reproduced in its entirety below.

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Over at The Hill, I explain why Lindsay Lohan’s rumored conversion to Islam could be a worse life choice than all the drugs and drinking and everything else that has made her notorious:

Lindsay Lohan has sparked widespread speculation that she has converted to Islam by deleting everything on her Instagram account except for the Arabic greeting “Alaikum salam” (upon you be peace).

Her mother has denied the claim, but Lohan, who lives in Dubai, has not, even as congratulations have poured in from Muslims around the world. If the reports are true, then Lohan, who for years has worked hard at amassing a reputation as a celebrity train wreck, has just made her worst career move yet.

Lohan has fueled this kind of speculation in the past, saying in 2015: “My very close friends, who have been there for me a lot, in London are Saudi and they gave me the Qur’an and I brought it to New York because I was learning. It opened doors for me to experience spiritually, to find another true meaning. This is who I am.”

She didn’t say what “true meaning” she found in Qur’anic injunctions sanctioning wife-beating (Qur’an 4:34), devaluing of women’s testimony (Qur’an 2:282) and inheritance rights (Qur’an 4:11), allowance for polygamy (Qur’an 4:3), or mandate of warfare against and subjugation of unbelievers (Qur’an 9:29), but that’s just the beginning of the absurdity.

Is Lindsay Lohan prepared to venture out in public with everything covered except her face and hands, as per Muhammad’s injunction (Abu Dawud 4092)? Is she willing not to go out at all unless accompanied by a male guardian, as per Islamic law? Is she happy with being judged deficient in intelligence and religious commitment, as Muhammad said of women (Bukhari 304)?

Lindsay Lohan likely doesn’t know that any of this is in Islamic teaching. She probably knows about Islam only the things she has been told by her friends in Saudi Arabia and Dubai, who are no doubt anxious to add her to the list of celebrity converts to Islam. What these converts to Islam know about their new religion could have been taken from a President Barack Obama speech: that it is a noble, great religion, a religion of peace, and that those who raise concerns about jihad terrorism are racist, bigoted xenophobes.

So what’s not to like? Converts and prospective converts are never told about how so many converts to Islam end up as jihad terrorists, most notably including John Walker Lindh, the “Marin County Mujahid” who was discovered fighting alongside the Taliban and al-Qaeda against American troops in Afghanistan, and Adam Gadahn, the self-described “revolting geek of mass proportions” who, like Lindh, discovered Islam through rap music and black grievance theater (neither were black, but both wished they were), read the Qur’an and realized that one sure-fire way to please Allah was to wage jihad against infidels, and set out to do just that.

Gadahn, before he was killed in a drone strike, rose high in the ranks of al-Qaeda, even making English-language videos addressed to the American people and introduced by al-Qaeda chief Ayman al-Zawahiri himself. In them, Gadahn’s revolting geekiness is on full display, as he smacks his lips nervously, pedantically argues for the falsity of Christianity and the truth of Islam, and issues threats with a bravado bred at the console of a thousand video games. Gadahn, Lindh, and numerous other converts illustrate the appeal of conversion to Islam among the psychically marginal, who find comfort in the fact that Islam has a rule (and sometimes many rules) for every imaginable human activity, relieving them of the responsibility of having to make tough moral and ethical decisions themselves.

That may be what appeals to Lindsay Lohan, the very epitome of the rootless celebrity who left her moral compass behind so long ago that she may not even remember having one. It is extraordinarily unlikely, of course, that even if she has converted to Islam, that she will follow Lindh, Gadahn, and so very many other converts into jihad terror activity; however, she would do well to ponder this phenomenon, and ask herself why so many Americans who have converted to Islam have somehow gotten the idea that their new religion commands them to commit treason and mass murder.

That would, of course, require her to read that Qur’an she has been carrying around attentively, and to think for herself. No doubt that is just what her Saudi friends want her to do as well. If she really did it, she would put the rumors of conversion to rest once and for all. But that would require bucking Hollywood’s smart set and the Leftist intelligentsia’s received wisdom. Thus far in her outlandish public career, Lindsay Lohan has not demonstrated the courage to do that. But stranger things have happened.

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  1. 1reader says

    Jan 18, 2017 at 9:22 am

    Another pathetic chapter in this “young” woman’s life.

    • john spielman says

      Jan 18, 2017 at 10:12 am

      now, if she tries to leave the “religion of peace”, it WILL BE HER LAST CHAPTER!

      • PRCS says

        Jan 18, 2017 at 3:05 pm

        I wonder if she knows what Islam’s penalty for apostasy is.

        And–if she does, or learns of it–what will she do?

        • pinchas baram says

          Jan 23, 2017 at 12:12 am

          I’m inclined to disagree. I think imams give a pass to celebrities who convert but who don’t abide strictly by the rules. that way, the convert can show how liberal islam is and also draw more dummies into the fold. i wouldn’t be surprised if we found out one day that Obama was also “allowed” to be a nominal Christian as long as he remained a “fellow traveler” to the cause, i.e., islam.

      • Hindu American says

        Jan 18, 2017 at 3:59 pm

        I’d say good riddance to her.

    • FatherJon says

      Jan 19, 2017 at 3:23 am

      I’ll bet she’s nursing a very sore arse. Her choice!

    • Salomon says

      Jan 19, 2017 at 6:32 am

      WWho is she? first of all? aha white? She converted? great news! if eberyeuropean women arre dragist, pornographist, commmit adultery …why not convert?

      • gravenimage says

        Jan 19, 2017 at 11:41 pm

        No, it is not “great news” for anyone to convert to the creed of oppression, blood, and death–a woman least of all.

  2. Thelastvirgingoat says

    Jan 18, 2017 at 9:26 am

    If she ends up blowing herself up at the Oscar’s it may not be that bad.

    • Tom Thumb says

      Jan 18, 2017 at 11:41 am

      especially if she takes a few hard core leftists with her!

    • tedh754 says

      Jan 18, 2017 at 8:06 pm

      I thought that very thing when that cretin oliver stone said that losing 3,000 people to a terrorist attack every so many years wouldn’t be that big a deal. And I wondered how many people that theater holds, the one where they host the Oscars. Imagine Hollywood being taken out all at one time. Would we miss it?

      • TruthWFree says

        Jan 19, 2017 at 12:07 am

        In a word…NO!

      • gravenimage says

        Jan 20, 2017 at 4:35 pm

        Just grotesque. Yes, the politics of a lot of Hollywood types is ridiculous–but if you don’t think Muslims taking out a huge chunk of our entertainment industry would not hugely embolden them, you are mistaken.

        • RalphB says

          Jan 22, 2017 at 12:30 am

          I do not think that such a success would not embolden them, therefore I think that it _would_ embolden them. Why am I mistaken?

  3. Guy Macher says

    Jan 18, 2017 at 9:28 am

    Lindsay doesn’t have the smarts God gave seafood.

    • devorah says

      Jan 18, 2017 at 1:42 pm

      hah! hilarious, never heard that one before

    • David Pimentel says

      Jan 19, 2017 at 8:15 am

      I don’t know …. I’ve seen more intelligent dead fish staring at me from my plate.

  4. Kuffar says

    Jan 18, 2017 at 9:29 am

    Attention whore – Let her have the full cultural experience by having a clitorectomy like all “good” muslim women.

    • Bill says

      Jan 18, 2017 at 1:53 pm

      Your first two words say it all. She will never really get involved with the religion, certainly not the real thing. Once the entertainment news cycle wears this latest one out, she will move on to something else. Anyone who fears that she has blindly walked into a life of victimhood and repression is wasting their concern. A second possibility is that she will enjoy some faux version of the cult, Islam lite, and serve as some useful propaganda tool about the enduring nobility of women in Islam.

      • maghan says

        Jan 19, 2017 at 5:06 am

        She could have tried scientology. Some dummy stars have tried that.

        • Carolyne says

          Jan 19, 2017 at 11:22 am

          And she could spend the rest of her life getting “Clear” and ridding herself of all of those invisible miniature space creatures which are clinging to her, as per Scientology.

        • gravenimage says

          Jan 20, 2017 at 12:00 am

          Scientology is pretty stupid and has its coercive side–but it is *nothing* like Islam. Scientology would be much less harmful for Lindsay Lohan, or anyone else.

        • Mira Chaikin says

          Jan 20, 2017 at 12:27 am

          Scientology is much more dangerous though not for a celebrity.

        • gravenimage says

          Jan 20, 2017 at 4:39 pm

          Apologist for Muslim savagery Mira Chaikin wrote:

          Scientology is much more dangerous though not for a celebrity.
          ………………………..

          In *what way*? Scientology does not mass-slaughter unbelievers, and while there are reports of its harassing those who have left–which is ugly–it does not murder apostates, as does Islam.

    • Mira Chaikin says

      Jan 20, 2017 at 12:36 am

      That’s not Moslem. That’s common law in Africa.

      • gravenimage says

        Jan 20, 2017 at 4:45 pm

        What crap. Muslims also practice FGM in Indonesia, Malaysia, Iran, Iraq, Kurdistan, Yemen and other parts of the Arabian peninsula, the UAE, and it is practiced increasingly by Muslims in the West. Muslim clerics are usually the most vociferous opponents of the practice being ended.

        The texts of Islam affirm it, and the “Prophet” Muhammed himself spoke positively of it.

        • Mira Chaikin says

          Jan 21, 2017 at 4:32 am

          Customary law only.

        • gravenimage says

          Jan 21, 2017 at 5:16 pm

          No, it isn’t. Muslim clerics defend FGM on *Islamic* terms.

          “Muslim cleric urges female genital mutilation”

          https://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/05/muslim-cleric-urges-female-genital-mutilation

  5. eur says

    Jan 18, 2017 at 9:40 am

    It is the secret weapon of the West. Do Muslims claim to destroy us from within? We send them Lindsay !!! A weapon of mass destruction.
    Does this poor rich girl know that in Islam homosexuality is punished? That you can not party, drink, smoke? … will not even be able to have fun in a healthy way. All for you Muslims.

    • Kay says

      Jan 18, 2017 at 9:58 am

      Sometimes people try to make up for their past on their own; they try to be good in some way: cover up, not eat certain foods, abstain from this or that . . .

      That isn’t the way it works. If we repent, Jesus forgives us and gives us new life.

      It looks like she really is in a spiritual struggle but forgot about running to the Father who loves her.

      • eur says

        Jan 18, 2017 at 10:19 am

        she could also has chosen to exercise, to enroll in yoga classes, to a mountain club …. and if she need something more spiritual there are religions and cults more spirituaa and above all peaceful. Choosing Islam is the sign of the visibility of that cult today. Years ago she would have opted for Buddhism as some Hollywood actors. She is a victim of Islamic proselytism, lack of neurons, common sense and mental immaturity. Cannon fodder for sects.

        • c matt says

          Jan 18, 2017 at 11:24 am

          It is simple virtue signalling, seeing as how she is quite bereft of virtue. Muzzies are the cause de jour for the celeb class, and one way to move up from B List is these faux conversions to an approved victim group.

      • Julie says

        Jan 19, 2017 at 3:48 am

        Yes, I agree that she might be treated very well. It is the same way in Scientology. The celebrity Scientologists like Tom Cruise and John Travolta are treated very different than the rank and file. Read any of the current expose books on Scientology and you’ll see what I mean. They intentionally recruit celebrities in order to bring the less powerful in.

    • LaLa says

      Jan 18, 2017 at 1:58 pm

      Not to mention she will now be required to get circumcised (mutilated that is).

      Wondering if that ever crossed her mind in her fairy tale thinking of what it means to be a muslim woman.

    • Salomon says

      Jan 19, 2017 at 6:38 am

      IIf you believe in rreal jesus, homosexuality is transgresssion with a high consequences, do not do it. Or you have to leave christianitty ookay?

      • b.a. freeman says

        Jan 19, 2017 at 7:25 pm

        salomon, homosexuality is indeed a sin. we are *all* sinners, however, and furthermore, all of us are incapable of living without sinning, and will remain that way right up to the day we die. we must accept the the free gift of salvation bought with Jesus’s death; there is no other way to gain life.

        thus, when – not if – a christian sins, he does not have to “leave christianity;” instead, he should acknowledge that he has sinned and seek the forgiveness of Jesus (who is God, BTW). we do indeed need to strive with all our might not to sin, but because that is a lost cause, we should seek the help of God to not sin. we can do all things through Him who is in us when we are christian, and we can do nothing without Him.

      • gravenimage says

        Jan 20, 2017 at 12:03 am

        Salomon wrote:

        IIf (sic) you believe in rreal (sic) jesus (sic), homosexuality is transgresssion (sic) with a (sic) high consequences, do not do it. Or you have to leave christianitty (sic) ookay (sic)?
        …………………………….

        Another Mohammedan telling Christians how they have to act…

  6. Alien Republican says

    Jan 18, 2017 at 9:41 am

    Just one more addiction she got hooked on and the trill will not last.

  7. Dan says

    Jan 18, 2017 at 10:20 am

    Actually, regarding Mohammud and the Quoran saying women are intellectually deficient, Lindsay could be poster child, song and verse.

  8. Angemon says

    Jan 18, 2017 at 10:22 am

    Gadahn, Lindh, and numerous other converts illustrate the appeal of conversion to Islam among the psychically marginal, who find comfort in the fact that Islam has a rule (and sometimes many rules) for every imaginable human activity, relieving them of the responsibility of having to make tough moral and ethical decisions themselves.

    Indeed. Counter-intuitive as it may seem, for some people the prospect of not having to make any decisions whatsoever is a powerful allure.

    • Mirren10 says

      Jan 18, 2017 at 4:58 pm

      Very true. I’ve never heard of her, but she apparently lives in *Dubai*. What will she do if she gets raped ? I wouldn’t advise her to report it to the police …

    • gravenimage says

      Jan 18, 2017 at 5:00 pm

      Grimly true, Angemon.

  9. Jerry says

    Jan 18, 2017 at 10:28 am

    What a lost soul she is. I hope she can stay sober, It won’t look good if she get’s stoned for booze and drugs.

  10. ibrahim itace muhammed says

    Jan 18, 2017 at 10:48 am

    lindsay lohan is now free from disgusting horrible bad smells associatiated with her former filthy christian religion.her natural beauty now appears with more value and diginity unlike before where the devil ,who inspired mithraist filthy christianity,diluted her natural beauty.look at her appearance.how do you see it?you can no longer look at her as mere object of satisfying your natural urge.she is now fully human being,not like filthy christian ladies having sex with dogs,pigs and horses.one french lover tried to force his cameronian immigrant girlfriend to have sex with his dog and horse.when she refused,he got her deported back to africa for being too rude not ready to satisfy his animals.look at this savagery in the so-called civilised christian west?.

    • no_one says

      Jan 18, 2017 at 10:58 am

      She was not a Christian. Moozies call atheists Christian which is false. You are arrogant and I hope you never make it to the western world. Stay in muslim countries and away from those I love most.

    • Alien Republican says

      Jan 18, 2017 at 11:03 am

      Christians don’t become muslim, neither do atheists.

      • b.a. freeman says

        Jan 19, 2017 at 8:33 pm

        well, that depends; when push comes to shove – or rather, when the sword comes to the neck – i’m pretty sure there will be *lots* of people who currently call themselves christian who will suddenly see the “light” of islam. same goes for atheists.

        that said, *nobody* should be put into that position. so far, the State in both europistan and the soon-to-be north ameristan refuses to protect its citizens in almost all cases. we aren’t as far along here in the western hemisphere, but europe is perilously close to civil war. if there is no State, then the voters will form one, and heaven help the fools who currently pretend to run things.

    • Tradiguy says

      Jan 18, 2017 at 12:25 pm

      You need help mate!

    • George says

      Jan 18, 2017 at 1:21 pm

      Ibrahim, Why did you mention her “natural beauty”, you a letcher? Besides, you won’t see it under the veil. But thanks for letting us know what “moderate” Islamists think of Christians (and atheists). Your mask slipped off. Duly noted.

    • JawsV says

      Jan 18, 2017 at 2:24 pm

      Robert – can you please remove this Muslim moron from our midst?

      • Champ says

        Jan 18, 2017 at 3:43 pm

        I second that motion …

        • Mirren10 says

          Jan 18, 2017 at 5:02 pm

          Oh, I don’t know, Champ, I think old itace provides a valuable insight into the Mohammedan mindset, like the repulsive Rezali. Maybe they’re related …??

        • gravenimage says

          Jan 20, 2017 at 5:03 pm

          🙂

    • Jon James says

      Jan 18, 2017 at 4:25 pm

      Ha ha.. so funny, Ibrahim.. Muslims are all saints na.. lol..BTw, what about goats and Camels? We can see the hatred.. But that’s common in your religion right? That’s what your false prophet and ‘loving God’ taught you right? Religion of peace..
      But we are not surprised Ibrahim.. Bible says only a few will be saved..the road to heaven is narrow and the road to hell is wide and smooth. So majority of the people like you do walk on that road and will end up in hell..which is your heaven ..:)

    • Mo says

      Jan 18, 2017 at 4:55 pm

      @ ibrahim itace muhammed

      “lindsay lohan is now free from disgusting horrible bad smells associatiated with her former filthy christian religion.”

      LOL! Provide the evidence that this vulgar female was a follower of Christ. You know you have none.

      Take your filth elsewhere, blasphemous, lying, Christ-hating troll.

    • gravenimage says

      Jan 18, 2017 at 5:33 pm

      Appalling Muslim supremacist ibrahim itace muhammed wrote:

      lindsay (sic) lohan (sic) is now free from disgusting horrible bad smells associatiated (sic) with her former filthy christian (sic) religion.
      …………………………………

      As other posters have already noted, Lohan has never to my knowledge been a practicing Christian. But this is the default Muslim position; that everyone in the West, even Agnostics and Atheists, are de facto Christians and “Crusaders”.

      And muhammed is irrationally ranting again about Christians–and Hindus, elsewhere–supposedly smelling bad. It has been pointed out to him umpteen times that Americans have overall pretty much the highest standards of hygiene in the world, but what he is talking about, of course, is “ritual purity”, not actual cleanliness.

      Hence, in his world, a Muslim who wipes himself with stones, never bathes, and has just come from raping his goat smells great; whereas a Christian or other Infidel just come from scrubbing up to perform surgery is “horrible bad smelling”.

      More:

      her (sic) natural beauty now appears with more value and diginity (sic) unlike before where the devil ,who (sic) inspired mithraist (sic) filthy christianity,diluted (sic) her natural beauty.look (sic) at her appearance.how (sic) do you see it?you (sic) can no longer look at her as mere object of satisfying your natural urge.
      …………………………………

      Well, that’s grimly hilarious–here’s muhammed positively salivating over the prospect of some Mohammedan getting his mitts on her, and he is accusing *us* of regarding her as a “mere object of satisfying your natural urge”. Personally, the only “natural urge” I have ever had regarding Ms. Lohan is having the vague hope that she would get her act together and start living a sane life.

      No chance of that, if this story turns out to be the case.

      More:

      she (sic) is now fully human being,not (sic) like filthy christian (sic) ladies having sex with dogs,pigs (sic) and horses.
      …………………………………

      muhammed, like most Muslims, is *obsessed* with bestiality. But this should not surprise–the highest rates of internet searches for sex with animals come from Dar-al-Islam:

      https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Islam_and_Bestiality#Other_countries_and_bestiality-related_searches

      More:

      one (sic) french (sic) lover tried to force his cameronian (sic) immigrant girlfriend to have sex with his dog and horse.when (sic) she refused,he (sic) got her deported back to africa (sic) for being too rude not ready to satisfy his animals.look (sic) at this savagery in the so-called civilised christian (sic) west?.
      …………………………………

      Where does muhammed get his sick, fevered fantasies from? Does he really expect anyone to believe that not sexually “satisfying” a boyfriend’s animals are grounds for deportation in France? What a vicious moron.

      Does Lindsay Lohan have any idea that *this* is what Islam does to its adherents? Poor girl…

      • Shmooviyet says

        Jan 19, 2017 at 6:47 am

        @GravenImage: blessings upon you, for so perfectly taking apart this truly creepy “Ib It Mo” and his ramblings– which are particularly grotesque here.

        Always a pleasure to witness!

        • gravenimage says

          Jan 20, 2017 at 12:09 am

          Thank you so much, Shmooviyet! I always look for your posts.

      • carol says

        Jan 20, 2017 at 3:37 am

        Advice:
        1/ Set Lindsay up with Ibrahim – that should shake her out of her Arabian night fantasies.
        2/ Ibrahim should lay off porn sites and guard his mental intake.
        3/ Lindsay must watch David Wood’s video “Why the Koran was revealed in Arabic” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rigMARKrNDw&spfreload=1
        4/ Lindsay must also watch (numerous times) this video treasure about three Surahs. She must try to make sense of the wording of the Surahs (music accompaniment optional). Then she must read hundreds of short, slavering posts by an apparent Muslim fan club. She will then be numb to all earthly pains and sensibilities and thus be a proper candidate for Muslimhood:

    • don vito says

      Jan 19, 2017 at 1:02 am

      itace no matter what the text and teachings of islam say, I know for a fact that Miss Lohan, will never, never, ever, give up her love of chess. As for you, the word around the barnyard, from the goats and sheep is…….(whispering)……watch out for itace, he’s a pervert. How does a kufr safeguard blood and property from the outstretched, grasping, bloody hands of your lying, stealing, murdering, slaver, filthy prophet?

    • L'Enfer says

      Jan 19, 2017 at 5:05 am

      “her natural beauty now appears ”

      You mean her freckles and her mouth-sores? You like that?

      You’re obviously not looking and are just blathering.

      You sound like Q’tb when he came America -a man who could not relate to women and couldn’t stand the sight of them, especially that American cornucopia of legs and high heels etc. in public view.
      You would appreciate Q’tb, squirming and rolling in his seamy bed at night not knowing what to do with the thought of them.
      Hey give Lindsay a call, maybe you are just the man.
      Tell her you love her freckle.
      Her freckle.

    • maghan says

      Jan 19, 2017 at 5:14 am

      The stupid fool is back. Sex with animals is prescribed in Islam. U.S. drone managers are always guffawing when their night-vision cameras spot so many Muslim degenerate freaks raping so many goats.

      The biggest number of people who watch animal porn are the vile low IQ degenerates from Saudi Arabia, Iran, Iraq, Pakistan–all cretinous mental slaves of their favorite child rapist, bandit and killer,

    • FYI says

      Jan 19, 2017 at 5:27 am

      @Ibrahim

      And what happens to converts to islam if they later decide to leave islam?
      They are branded as apostates and are likely to be… murdered.Isn’t that so?
      Does Ms Lohan know that?Probably not.

      That’s what happened to Brian,.Like most converts to islam,Brian’s frontal brain cortex wasn’t functioning.
      See the hit musical when it comes out shortly that tells his story:the story of a convert to islam.

      THE LIFE OF BRIAN MUHAMMED.
      (A Monty Anaconda production)

    • Anne Smith says

      Jan 19, 2017 at 7:13 am

      Do we really have to put up with the obscene comments from this contgributor? He constantly makes horrible references to women which I find upsetting and very unpleasant.

      • Anne Smith says

        Jan 19, 2017 at 7:13 am

        I refer to Ibrahim Mutace Muhammed, of course.

        • Susette says

          Jan 19, 2017 at 10:31 am

          I believe he is the spokesperson for islam on this site…so at least we get the truth about the hatred and evil that permeates islam. I find his comments very amusing!

        • gravenimage says

          Jan 20, 2017 at 12:31 am

          I don’t find them amusing, but I find them *very* characteristic of the repellent Muslim mindset.

      • Champ says

        Jan 20, 2017 at 3:53 am

        Anne Smith wrote:

        “Do we really have to put up with the obscene comments from this contributor? He constantly makes horrible references to women which I find upsetting and very unpleasant.”

        ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

        I *completely* agree with you, Anne. We get it–the ‘fruit’ of islam sucks!

    • girlgirl says

      Jan 19, 2017 at 11:21 am

      “not like filthy christian ladies having sex with dogs,pigs and horses.”

      How many haram porn videos have you watched to come to this conclusion?
      In western countries having sex with an animal is rightfully considered as animal abuse and thus it is prohibited by the law in most european nations.

      If islam will really help her then I am glad she converted but this doesn’t make islam any more valid than any other fairy tales (religions) invented by men. A lot of people helped themselves with the aid of christianity, for example.
      And as for her behaviour… that was against christian teachings too.

    • Carolyne says

      Jan 19, 2017 at 11:47 am

      Ibby, you don’t seem to know that, according to Big Mo (May piss be upon him) a Muslim man can have sex with a goat. But if he does, he cannot kill and eat that particular goat, but must sell it to another village to be either eaten or raped.

      You are so disgusting. What do you think you accomplish? You aren’t gaining any converts here.

    • Norger says

      Jan 20, 2017 at 5:10 pm

      Keep posting. By your own words you expose Islam for exactly what it is: a savage, hateful, intolerant, misogynistic 7th century death cult.

  11. no_one says

    Jan 18, 2017 at 10:55 am

    God has given us a free will. We can follow Him or not. I am sad for the young woman though. She did not find the loving Lord. May be because so many in the west a Christians by name only. No example. Following the false god is easier, because of our fallen nature.

  12. StuartG says

    Jan 18, 2017 at 10:57 am

    Who cares?

  13. JW_Reader says

    Jan 18, 2017 at 10:58 am

    Lilo- Let your Imam know that you go both way – men and women! He will welcome you with red carpet – to the top of the building.

    • gravenimage says

      Jan 20, 2017 at 5:13 pm

      Thanks for posting the video, JW_Reader.

  14. Lesley says

    Jan 18, 2017 at 11:10 am

    I’m all right with idiots converting as long as they move to a Muslim country… I definitely don’t want her to come back and visit, though 🙂

  15. Lenore says

    Jan 18, 2017 at 11:10 am

    Mr. Spencer is such a smart and educated man. I so enjoy listening to him speak. He seems to know more about the Islamic religion than most Islams. I wish more people would listen to what he has to say.

  16. Don McKellar says

    Jan 18, 2017 at 11:11 am

    THIS IS A GOOD THING!

    There can be no better way to illustrate how Islam should be viewed to a celebrity-obsessed culture, than to have the worst of the screwed up tabloid fodder become its champion. Like Lohan, Islam should be looked upon with contempt and disdain. They were made for each other. And as others have noticed, she will soon get into trouble with her new masters. And nothing but good can come from the publicity surrounding the violent attack(s) or perhaps her death at her fellow moslem’s hands. For once Lindsay Lohan will be able to do some good in this world — in spite of herself.

    • Don McKellar says

      Jan 18, 2017 at 11:16 am

      I also wouldn’t dismiss the possibilities put forth that she made blow herself up or be involved in a jihad attack somewhere in Europe. She could use her celebrity cred to sneak guns and explosives past security into a big event. That would not be good, unless she only takes out a few of the fake celebs around her who are cheering her conversion to the Religion of Peace.

      One thing we have all seen: there are very few moslems as pious and righteous as a new convert moslem! So this is a very good possibility.

      • Carolyne says

        Jan 19, 2017 at 11:49 am

        I understand the reward awaiting Muslim men when they get killed in Jihad, but what’s in it for a Muslima? 72 virile men? Young boys like pearls? What?

  17. underbed cat says

    Jan 18, 2017 at 11:11 am

    Drug addicts, alcoholics find solace…..acceptance since it appeals to not feeling guilt for their problems…and slowly they are primmed, but the darkness first appears as light, then to a force that is dark so she may be used. This is alarming since the opiates are dispense by another unseen peaceful clever source.

  18. Shmooviyet says

    Jan 18, 2017 at 11:47 am

    No, your ‘close Saudi friends in London’ knew your very public ‘weaknesses’ and took advantage of them.
    The spider & the fly. Just as other cults PREY on confusion, depression, insecurity, etc. The target is drawn into the trap/parlour.
    Her wealth is a definite plus for all the new friends she’ll be making.
    ‘Bye, Lindsay– hope you enjoyed your liberty and equal rights!

    • gravenimage says

      Jan 18, 2017 at 5:38 pm

      Spot on, Shmooviyet.

    • carol says

      Jan 20, 2017 at 4:03 am

      Saudi friends, hmmmm….I hate to disillusion Ibrahim but they say many Saudi women are secretly lesbian. It’s because they get no tenderness or respect from their men and so cultivate more rewarding hobbies.

  19. Tradiguy says

    Jan 18, 2017 at 12:19 pm

    As she is obviously a total loser, she sounds a perfect candidate for her new ‘religion.’ She’s obviously incapable of making a good choice as her previous life shows so this is just another shit decision- she obviously hates herself!

  20. Troybeam says

    Jan 18, 2017 at 12:55 pm

    If true She will be a tool, used, abused and thrown out. She’ll marry a Muslim man who will take everything she owns and than divorce her leaving her penniless. She’ll also have to undergo FGM, cannot have her enjoying sex now can she.

  21. davej says

    Jan 18, 2017 at 1:12 pm

    I have never yet heard a convert be able to articulate what it is they find so attractive or admirable about Islam or how they are able to overlook the considerable amount of hatred and violence it contains.

    Rather they seem to be drawn by the authoritarian superiority, arrogance and endorsement of victim mongering and criminal practices. Perhaps this is why it is attractive to shallow, psychologically disturbed idiots.

    There is also a perception that this is a fashionable, revolutionary movement for social justice – a common attribute of many cults of the past. This idea could be dispelled with 20 minutes of study but these acolytes can’t be bothered.

    • gravenimage says

      Jan 18, 2017 at 5:39 pm

      Good post, dave.

  22. George says

    Jan 18, 2017 at 1:13 pm

    Hope she read the Quran concerning quitting and leaving. (Highest place/reward in heaven to the one who kills the apostate.) Which reminds me, if you believe in nothing, you will believe in anything, eventually. The left was made for the idiocy of Islam.

  23. R Russell says

    Jan 18, 2017 at 1:19 pm

    Where were the Christians when she was looking for meaning to life?
    Had she found out how much she is loved by the Jesus of the Bible, we wouldn’t need to wonder if one day she will be strapping on a suicide vest to ruin her life and all those nearby.
    Jesus loves so much, He died for our sins, Mohammed need his followers to die for Him to prove their devotion. I know which I prefer!

  24. mortimer says

    Jan 18, 2017 at 1:21 pm

    Quote: Lindsay Lohan “didn’t say what “true meaning” she found in Qur’anic injunctions sanctioning wife-beating (Qur’an 4:34), devaluing of women’s testimony (Qur’an 2:282) and inheritance rights (Qur’an 4:11), allowance for polygamy (Qur’an 4:3), or mandate of warfare against and subjugation of unbelievers (Qur’an 9:29), but that’s just the beginning of the absurdity.”

    Lindsay Lohan (and all other Western women considering Islam) might want to ask themselves if they can endorse the rape of married captives in Qur’an 4, verse 24: ‘Forbidden (for sex) are married women … EXCEPT FOR THOSE WHOM YOUR RIGHT HAND POSSESSES”. That verse permits the rape of married non-Muslims after they have been enslaved. Can any modern woman believe that the Supreme Being has authorized the rape of married women or any woman?

    So how can Linday Lohan accept such offensive, misogynistic nonsense?

    • gravenimage says

      Jan 18, 2017 at 5:42 pm

      Lohan has made plenty of bad choices before–critical thinking has not been her strong suit..

  25. Zora says

    Jan 18, 2017 at 2:16 pm

    We all do what we can to find a path. I wish her the best.

    • Mirren10 says

      Jan 18, 2017 at 5:08 pm

      Are you being sarcastic ?

      • gravenimage says

        Jan 18, 2017 at 5:44 pm

        I *hope* that was sarcasm, Mirren.

    • Peggy says

      Jan 18, 2017 at 10:35 pm

      If she was looking for a path to Hell then she found it.

      • gravenimage says

        Jan 20, 2017 at 12:35 am

        +1

  26. JawsV says

    Jan 18, 2017 at 2:26 pm

    It’s official: Lohan is a total jackazz.

  27. Carlos Danger says

    Jan 18, 2017 at 2:37 pm

    Hope she stays in the Kingdom and lives a long time.

  28. Champ says

    Jan 18, 2017 at 2:50 pm

    If the reports are true, then Lohan, who for years has worked hard at amassing a reputation as a celebrity train wreck, has just made her worst career move yet.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    “worst career move yet” …and how!

  29. Sam says

    Jan 18, 2017 at 3:03 pm

    Why cant we teach our children some easy analytical skills so they can learn to differentiate between TRUTH and BS?

    How can people be so stupid to accept ISLAM to find “true” meaning in life. Give me a break!

    • maghan says

      Jan 19, 2017 at 5:26 am

      The Lohan proof is there. She has that blank gaze–as if she is in another world. On drugs? Maybe. She has now joined up with the most stupid and violent people in the world. Well done, for a cretin.

  30. Bezelel says

    Jan 18, 2017 at 3:20 pm

    I’ll bet her adherence to islam will be as thorough as Madonna’s Cabala. Of course with islam you can’t rule out forced adherence or more likely corporal punishment for for the most minor infractions. She better read the fine print before committing. Not a safe bet for someone who is selfish self centered and egotistical to the extreme. Those characteristics are reserved for islamic men only.

    • Champ says

      Jan 18, 2017 at 4:49 pm

      Indeed; and I bet she doesn’t know that if she decides to leave islam that she’ll be on their hit list.

  31. Champ says

    Jan 18, 2017 at 3:30 pm

    Lohan’s dressed for her new role in “The Islamic Trap” …

    • gravenimage says

      Jan 18, 2017 at 5:47 pm

      Now *that* is funny, Champ.

      • Champ says

        Jan 18, 2017 at 6:11 pm

        🙂

    • Mira Chaikin says

      Jan 20, 2017 at 12:41 am

      Probably not. She’s not being instructed by ISIS people. ISIS jihadis wouldn’t recognize whatever version of Islam she is deriving instruction from and see her as Islsmic.

  32. gravenimage says

    Jan 18, 2017 at 4:55 pm

    Robert Spencer in The Hill: Lindsay Lohan may have made her worst life choice yet
    ……………………

    I had thought that this story had been debunked, and was just more of the “semi-famous Infidel converts to Islam” claptrap–but now there seems to be more to it.

    I have never been a particular fan of Lindsay Lohan, although I do think she has some (largely squandered) acting talent.

    But I fervently hope this *is* a hoax–I would not wish Islam on anyone. I hope the poor girl gets out in time.

  33. Mirren10 says

    Jan 18, 2017 at 5:10 pm

    Is she an actress ?

    So many of those in entertainment appear to have the moral compass of a paramecium.

    • Bezelel says

      Jan 18, 2017 at 6:09 pm

      I think she’s more of a huntress. There’s pictures of her shooting beavers.
      http://mediagangbang.blogspot.com/2006/09/reports-of-lindsay-lohans-beaver-were.html

    • gravenimage says

      Jan 18, 2017 at 7:04 pm

      She’s an actress of sorts–but these days she is far better known for being a train wreck than for any acting roles. Apparently she was so unprofessional with her last couple of projects that almost no one will hire her at this point.

  34. billybob says

    Jan 18, 2017 at 6:09 pm

    Lohan herself says she hasn’t made any decision to become a Muslim. She says she “is still reading the Quran”.

    She caused a stir when she was pictured carrying a copy of the Koran on the first day of community service in New York last summer.
    And Lindsay Lohan has finally spoken out about her newfound love of Islam, revealing she has been studying the religion to satisfy her intellectual curiosity and spiritual nature.
    The 29-year-old star told The Sun newspaper: ‘I’m a very spiritual person and I’m really open to learning.

    ‘America has portrayed holding a Koran in such a different way to what it actually is.’

    Catholic-born Lindsay – who revealed that her younger sister Ali was also exploring her spiritual side and had converted to Buddhism – has yet to finish reading the lengthy holy text, however.
    ‘Do you know how long that would take?’, she exclaimed.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3548919/Lindsay-Lohan-confirms-s-considering-converting-Islam-hasn-t-finished-Koran.html

    • Wellington says

      Jan 18, 2017 at 7:16 pm

      Just for the record, billybob, I have long assumed that anyone asserting, as Lohan has, that they are a “very spiritual person” reveals far more than they realize since the “spiritual person” meme is ALWAYS an indication that one is dealing with an intellectual lightweight. I have never come across a single exception to this rule of mine.

      And this particular stupidity and shallowness often is accompanied by the ancillary idiocy by the fool that they are not religious though they are spiritual. When I hear this, I know it’s time for another beer—-or a run—–or watching another sporting event——or anything lest I hear or read more tripe along these lines by the person who thinks they may be deep when they are not even shallow.

      • gravenimage says

        Jan 18, 2017 at 7:33 pm

        Agreed, Wellington–and good post, billybob.

        And I find this rather hilarious, as well:

        “Catholic-born Lindsay…has yet to finish reading the lengthy holy text, however.

        ‘Do you know how long that would take?’, she exclaimed.”

        I’m not exactly a speed reader, and I found the Qur’an tedious and off-putting–yet I still read the thing the first time ’round in a couple of days.

        • Peggy says

          Jan 18, 2017 at 11:50 pm

          yet I still read the thing the first time ’round in a couple of days
          =========================

          Well done, I couldn’t do it.
          After finishing it did it feel like you were let out of solitary?

        • Carolyne says

          Jan 19, 2017 at 11:54 am

          After I finished it, I needed a hot shower.

        • gravenimage says

          Jan 20, 2017 at 12:38 am

          Yes, Peggy and Carolyne–I was just sickened by the whole thing.

          I have forced myself since to read it in a few different translations–never pleasant.

  35. Peggy says

    Jan 18, 2017 at 6:22 pm

    She could’ve chosen a safer cult.

    • gravenimage says

      Jan 18, 2017 at 7:06 pm

      Yes–she should have become a Buddhist like her sister.

      • Peggy says

        Jan 18, 2017 at 8:36 pm

        It would be so cruel to Buddhists. Something safer like Jim Jones group used to be.

  36. Wellington says

    Jan 18, 2017 at 6:47 pm

    Even if she hasn’t converted to Islam, the photo of her above does show her wearing an hijab, which is as good as wearing a swastika since wearing said sartorial display (unless forced to do so or done for safety reasons) serves as ipso facto evidence of paying respect to a totalitarian ideology, in this case Islam.

    And respect should NEVER be paid to a totalitarian ideology where the opportunity not to do so freely exists. More information is needed here, but my guestimate is that Lohan is demonstrating yet again, quite freely and unencumbered, that she is a very silly, very confused and very shallow human being.

    • Kepha says

      Jan 18, 2017 at 8:55 pm

      I think I am starting to better understand the old Puritan disdain for the theater. Perhaps, in the 16th and 17th centuries, actors, spending their lives being other people rather than developing character of their own, may have been just as silly and vapid as their counterparts today.

      Now and again, someone with sense, and even a bit of wisdom comes out of Hollywood; but I chalk that all up to God’s being gracious just about anywhere this side of Hell. Generally, pronouncements on public matters from TInsel Town have been an embarrassment,

      As for silly and shallow, I can’t help but think of all the Hollywood “Zen Buddhists” back in the Silly ‘Sixties and Sillier ‘Seventies–who had now idea that on its home turf, said religion would condemn women who engaged in the liberated lifestyle’s sacrament of abortion to being led around the EIghteenth Hell in cangues while the aborted children pull at their skirts. It’s probably all a matter of being attracted by the exotic garb, the “spiritual” appearance of someone in a robe rather than street clothes, cute statues (or, for those how love Islam, the arabesque tiles in the mosque). Being too busy trying to learn the script of some production which shows human nature in way too positive a light, the poor dears have no time to reflect on serious texts by those who seriously grappled with the issues of life and eternity (especially if produced in a language and cultural milieu alien to 20th and 21st century America).

      Unhappily, film and entertainment are probably the healthiest sectors of the American economy at this point, so we’ll be stuck with these TInsel Town airheads exhibiting themselves more and more.

      • Bezelel says

        Jan 18, 2017 at 10:32 pm

        Kepha, I believe there is some degree of mass hypnosis involved. Maybe it has always been that way but it seems to be accelerating in mass and momentum. The reference point for sanity has been drop kicked into the middle of a cesspool and the neo liberals attack anyone who tries to retrieve it. If only their consequences weren’t contagious.

      • Wellington says

        Jan 18, 2017 at 10:36 pm

        Well, Kepha, I get your overall point and mostly agree with it, but don’t forget that in the glory years of Hollywood there were loads of stars who were Republican and overall quite conservative (and open about it), examples being Claudette Colbert, Clark Gable, Bob Hope, Ginger Rogers, John Wayne and Jimmy Stewart.

        I think what we’re faced with here is not so much thespians over the centuries acting stupidly, which is to say being lefties, but more a matter of the nonsensical age in which we live, whereby people of prominence, who have lost their common sense, have made a left turn into Leftworld. a plethora of such deficient people in the MSM and academia being further examples of this sad and stupid turn.

        I mean Edward R. Murrow was a patriot, now wasn’t he? Off hand, how many MSM characters outside of Fox News can you say that about today? (And yes, I know Murrow eventually took on Joseph McCarthy, but so did Dwight Eisenhower and I think the latter’s patriotism is 100% indisputable). So, I would argue that the main problem is not being a thespian but being an uninformed creature of our age, regardless of profession.

        Just to drive my point home further, I am actually old enough to remember when some university professors served as catalysts for recruiting college students into the CIA and FBI. Well, those years are long gone, now aren’t they?

        Ah, is it the profession or the age which is the culprit? Somewhat the former it could be argued but mostly the latter I would contend.

        • gravenimage says

          Jan 18, 2017 at 11:10 pm

          Yes–I agree. Hard to believe things were quite a bit saner not that long ago.

          And you had a few genuinely courageous actors, such as Marlene Dietrich and Edward G. Robinson, who opposed Fascism before it was fashionable.

    • Mira Chaikin says

      Jan 20, 2017 at 12:49 am

      Female visitors in many Moslem countries are required to wear a headcloth.

  37. Baucent says

    Jan 18, 2017 at 6:51 pm

    She is just the sort of air head woman that would convert to Islam. “I use to be all messed up on drugs, now I’m all messed up on Islam”

    • Peggy says

      Jan 18, 2017 at 8:34 pm

      Only damaged people convert to Islam. That’s why so many prisoners convert and other psychopaths.

      • gravenimage says

        Jan 20, 2017 at 5:36 pm

        Exactly.

  38. abad says

    Jan 18, 2017 at 7:57 pm

    Hollyweird tends to jump on whatever latest trendy bandwagon is available: transgenderism, Islam, you name it they will join it. Hollyweird just follows the crowd. They are people who cannot think for themselves at all, they play make-believe.

    Just like their make-believe Islam is the Religion of Peace(TM) when it is anything but.

  39. Guest says

    Jan 18, 2017 at 8:44 pm

    Even if she is smart enough to see the Quoran is full of crap she won’t say it out loud. Then she be branded a racist and her career, or what’s left of it is gone

  40. Joe says

    Jan 18, 2017 at 9:06 pm

    Who with a sane mind would move to Dubai or any other Islamic country without being forced to? A lost case. Drugs destroyed her brain already. A dead zombie walking.

    Money or glamour can’t buy brains!

  41. Mira Chaikin says

    Jan 18, 2017 at 11:10 pm

    She might be locked into it because she lives in Dubai, and maybe not. She’s likely now cleaning up her act, becoming more modest, refraining from promiscuity, substance abuse and developing a relationship with God. On a certain level, Judaism, Christianity and Islam are pretty much the same. Some of the writings are identical. She probably hasn’t officially converted.

    If the Islamic State members don’t take over the UAE, she’ll be safe enough and be able to leave the country when and if she wants to.

    I met her dad once and talked with him a little. She was in the same space but I didn’t talk to her. This was in around 2012. She looked terrible, about 20 years older than her age as a result of substance abuse. She looks better, so give her a break.

    She’s not a bad actress; she has a surprising amount of depth. She’s not stupid.

    There are over a billion Moslems in the world. They don’t all live under tyranny and they aren’t all bad.

    • Peggy says

      Jan 18, 2017 at 11:44 pm

      On a certain level, Judaism, Christianity and Islam are pretty much the same. Some of the writings are identical.
      ===============================
      They are not the same on ANY level.
      Yes, Jdaism and Christianity are based on the same scriptures but Islam is based on evil. Islam is just Mohammed taking bits and pieces out of scriptures and making up the rest as he went along.
      Jews and Christians worship the same God. Islam worships Satan.

      How can they have anything in common?

    • gravenimage says

      Jan 18, 2017 at 11:56 pm

      Apologist for Muslim savagery Mira Chaikin wrote:

      She might be locked into it because she lives in Dubai, and maybe not.
      ……………………………..

      Does the above mean you would be sanguine about *forced conversion*? *Appalling*.

      More:

      She’s likely now cleaning up her act, becoming more modest, refraining from promiscuity, substance abuse and developing a relationship with God.
      ……………………………..

      Islam–a creed that allows child marriage, forced marriage, polygamy, summary divorce for men, rape of Infidels, sex slavery, wife beating, “Honor Killing”, and stoning for rape victims has *nothing* to do with modesty. How grotesque.

      And how can you read the horrors here and claim that converting to such a vicious creed involves “developing a relationship with God”?

      More:

      On a certain level, Judaism, Christianity and Islam are pretty much the same. Some of the writings are identical. She probably hasn’t officially converted.
      ……………………………..

      If by that you mean that Islam stole a few superficial aspects from Judaism and Christianity such as a ban on pork and the virgin birth, you are correct–if you are claiming that Judaism and Christianity follow the model of a war lord, pedophile, slaver, rapist, and mass-murderer, you are *quite* mistaken.

      More:

      If the Islamic State members don’t take over the UAE, she’ll be safe enough and be able to leave the country when and if she wants to.
      ……………………………..

      Does that mean you are fine with *this* sort of ugliness?

      “Dubai: Tourist from UK gang-raped, now faces jail for extramarital sex”

      https://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/11/dubai-tourist-from-uk-gang-raped-now-faces-jail-for-extra-marital-sex

      And how about this?

      “UAE: Indian man charged with insulting Islam on Facebook”

      https://www.jihadwatch.org/2015/04/uae-indian-man-charged-with-insulting-islam-on-facebook

      Is *this* what you consider “moderate”? I suppose so–at least they are not burning women and their families to death, as is happening in the Islamic State…

      More:

      I met her dad once and talked with him a little. She was in the same space but I didn’t talk to her. This was in around 2012. She looked terrible, about 20 years older than her age as a result of substance abuse. She looks better, so give her a break.

      She’s not a bad actress; she has a surprising amount of depth. She’s not stupid.
      ……………………………..

      If she is not stupid, why would she join a faith that considers her–and any woman–to be “deficient in intelligence”, as Islam does?

      More:

      There are over a billion Moslems in the world. They don’t all live under tyranny and they aren’t all bad.
      ……………………………..

      No–some of them don’t live under tyranny–some of them live in Dar-al-Harb. But all too many of them are trying to turn our own civilized lands into Muslim hell holes.

      But presumably you are citing Dubai itself as an example of a Muslim land that is not a tyranny. Does that you are fine with imprisonment for rape victims? Jail time for “Blasphemy”?

      Dubai’s human rights record is pretty bad. It has the death penalty for homosexuality and for apostasy–both things that could be troublesome for Ms. Lohan. It is illegal for a Muslim woman to marry a non-Muslim man, and those in such a marriage may be charged with “fornication”.

      It is illegal to eat or drink in public during Ramadan–a Russian woman was put on trial in Dubai for drinking juice. Those arrested for drug use–certainly a potential issue in Ms. Lohan’s case–have been arrested and subjected to beatings and electric shock.

      Censorship is rife–and running afoul of strictures can land you in prison–see the “Blasphemy” case.

      Women under Shari’ah law in Dubai are second-class citizens.

      Would-be reformers are arrested, imprisoned, tortured, and disappeared. A passerby who filmed a Dubai driver beating a guest worker and posted it on YouTube was himself arrested.

      This is just scratching the surface, of course.

      As to the last, of course there are good Muslims in the world. No thanks to Islam, though.

      • Mira Chaikin says

        Jan 20, 2017 at 12:47 am

        There are people in Dubai that want it to be modern and free and others that want the old country conservative hard core repressive way of life to predominate. That’s the cultural war going on all over the Middle East and North Africa.

        It’s looking like all you can see is the darkness.

        • carol says

          Jan 20, 2017 at 5:13 am

          Mira…Islam invariably puts “lipstick on the pig” therefore too much positivity invites some correction.
          One truly bright light (as you suggest) is the brave souls who dare to stand as individuals and defy the draconian environment. I’ve been watching Jajabor the Nomad and admire his candor. In this video “Don’t Hide your Apostasy” he speaks about family and his break with Islam:

        • gravenimage says

          Jan 20, 2017 at 5:43 pm

          Given that would-be reformers in Dubai are arrested, imprisoned, tortured, and disappeared, it is difficult to know what you consider *not* to be dark in Dubai.

          And there is nothing that is not dark in Islam–it is a vicious, bloody, loveless creed. If you even find decent Muslims, it is because the are violating the tenets of their violent creed.

    • Wellington says

      Jan 19, 2017 at 12:57 am

      “On a certain level, Judaism, Christianity and Islam are pretty much the same.”

      That’s like saying that some third-rate light beer is pretty much the same as a great beer because they are both beers.

      Wise up. Judaism and Christianity are not mortal enemies of liberty and equality under the law. Islam is a mortal enemy of both. The Judeo-Christian ethic is an enlightened one which is replete with a true Golden Rule for all. Islam, by contrast, does not have a Golden Rule for all and whenever it can it sets up a Jim Crow system based not on race but on belief. Moreover, Judaism and Christianity are not totalitarian ideologies while Islam most definitely is. The dissimilarities between Judaism and Christianity on the one hand and Islam on the other are far more numerous than the similarities, which actually are very few.

      You are either “merely” an ignoramus or a mendacious ignoramus. No third alternative here.

      • Frank Courtney says

        Jan 19, 2017 at 5:57 am

        “On a certain level, Judaism, Christianity and Islam are pretty much the same.”

        That’s like saying that some third-rate light beer is pretty much the same as a great beer because they are both beers.

        Good analogy, Wellington, but to me it’s like saying a strychnine and arsenic cocktail is pretty much the same as a great beer.

        My best wishes to you. I always appreciate your posts.
        Frank

        • Wellington says

          Jan 19, 2017 at 1:12 pm

          You topped me, Frank, and my compliments. Best wishes to you too.

        • gravenimage says

          Jan 20, 2017 at 6:03 pm

          Agreed. Even the worst generic swill is not going to kill you–just affront your palate. Would that we could say that of Islam.

      • Mira Chaikin says

        Jan 19, 2017 at 4:53 pm

        The actually writings in the Quran actually say that one puts God before all – not your mother, father, husband, wife, sister, brother, boss, ruler, king, neighbor, group think. It’s between you and God.

        I think that is a good teaching.

        There is no separation between Church and State in Islamic countries. Not unlike how Europe used to be. A totalitarian version of Christianity used to run Europe. The Jews of ancient times were also intolerant of non- Jews. The Mormons. How were the American Indians treated here because they weren’t Christian? And the Jewish folk in Christian Germany in the 1940’s? Or the Spanish Inquisition? What was that very predominant Christian group think going on in Europe for centuries, assholes? “The Jews killed Christ so we should kill them.”

        Now the radical Islamists further twist and pervert the religion. (ISIS, Al Qaeda). You guys here are giving them more power than they have and are cheering them on as a macabre pornography.

        These Moslem countries that aren’t so free know they have to shape up their act and stop human right violations. Transitions of governments come in time. So how do you do this, the Marxist way and kill everybody or other ways that take time but work? They don’t have peaceful transitions of government. You have to kill the current leader and his guys for your team to run things. This happens all over, not just in Moslem countries.

        There is no mention of 72 virgins in the Quran. That’s a spin by the radicals. And some of the Quran is a discussion of current events going in at the time which had to do with military battles and politics.

        There are people I know and care about who are deployed in Syria and Iraq in the military. I doubt any of you do because you are cowards and only know and care about other cowards.

        And no, I am not Moslem. I used to hate Moslems, in truth. I was like Saul. I was taught to.

        My area, by the way, my area is terrorism. I took 10 classes in the subject at the undergraduate and graduate level. With your stupid mouths, you are creating more of it. Valid concerns about human rights, that’s up for discussion, but not condeming 1.5 billion people because your understanding of their beliefs is based on twisted interpretation by fanatics who are perverted.

        • Wellington says

          Jan 19, 2017 at 5:35 pm

          Cry me a river, Mira Chaikin. First of all, when Christians did terrible things in the name of Christianity they were violating the tenets of their faith, contra Muslims. There are 164 verses in the Koran calling for war to be made upon non-Muslims in order to spread Islam. There are zero, count them, ZERO, verses in the New Testament calling upon Christians to wage war in order to spread Christianity. 164 to 0. What’s your comment here about this?

          As for the 72 virgins rot, try convincing any major school of Islamic theology to this day, for instance the four main Sunni schools, the Hanafi, Hanbali, Shafi and Maliki, that this is not part and parcel of the Islamic theological blueprint. Just because something is not in the Koran often means diddly shit and one knows this or should know this.

          Third, so you care about people deployed in Syria and Iraq (what people btw?) and because someone doesn’t that makes them a coward? What pathetic reasoning. In fact, it’s so pathetic that I think you’re lying about not being a Muslim since what you proffered is very typical of Muslimthink. Of course you just be another silly dhimmi attempting to exculpate the worst religion ever founded by man.

          Lastly, I don’t give a damn how many classes you have attended on terrorism since obviously they didn’t make you wiser. And I do condemn all adult Muslims (I’ll let children off the hook here) for at least being a confused and ignorant human being because if you think that seventh-century psychopath, Mohammed, is the last and greatest of the prophets you have obviously bought into a load of bullshit which matches any bullshit in history. Besides, a lot of Muslims are not just confused but evil PRECISLY due to their being Muslim and wanting to carry out all the dictates of their faith, the only major religion which is, as Bertrand Russell noted almost a century ago, the sole major faith which is totalitarian in structure and ideology.

          One knows of should know that Islam is a mortal enemy of freedom, equality under the law, women’s rights, music, fine beer, a true Golden Rule for all, romantic love, and many other wonderful things that no other major religion even remotely is. Islam is a burden to all mankind and no other faith and I write this as one who is not religious in the least. Islam is spiritual fascism and you don’t or won’t get this. Your loss, not mine.

        • Mira Chaikin says

          Jan 19, 2017 at 7:55 pm

          Buddy, you can’t win this argument by stereotyping.

          And no, I can’t say that I am a Moslem but even if I were, you don’t go around making hate speech against any religion. I don’t know which country you live in, but that’s illegal here in the United States. And you give the fanatical jihadists more company and safety than they actually have. All of the sudden, all 1.5 billion Moslems worldwide are fanatical jihadists, according to you and your friends’ take on things.

        • Susette says

          Jan 19, 2017 at 9:17 pm

          Mira, you are completely wrong…there is no hate speech exception to the First Amendment. Hateful ideas about any religion or ideology, be it islam, Scientology, Atheism are just as protected as condemnation of Republicans, Darwinism, fascism, etc.
          Threatening to kill someone or inciting violence because they’re moslem or white or have green eyes can be made a crime…because it’s illegal, not because it’s “hate speech”. If you want a primer on hate speech…read the koran…it’s full of hate speech towards Christian, Jews, women, slaves, etc.

        • Mira Chaikin says

          Jan 20, 2017 at 12:23 am

          Susette, I have encountered some pretty disgusting language on some posts in this site which could be construed as hate speech. Not all, but some.

          Spencer has you all schooled in the Jihadii/ISIS retarded interpretation of Islam, I do remind you that there are 1.5 billion Moslems worldwide and they don’t all share those views.

          I do agree with Spencer that there is a pattern of deliberate violent and unpleasant acts which are both planned and ad hoc by a trashy, angry bunch of people, the majority of which have been brought up Muslim culturally and are immigrants.

        • Susette says

          Jan 20, 2017 at 9:27 am

          Mira, I agree there is some very disgusting language and nasty name-calling and put-downs on this site, but most of it is not so-called “hate speech”. Except for verbal attacks on a person’s inborn traits (gender, race, ethnicity), what is “hate speech”? When Charlie Hebdo drew a cartoon of mohammed and moslems decided to execute them, did Charlie Hebdo commit a “hate speech” crime? No! Drawing a cartoon of mohammad is protected by our First Amendment. I think the moslems were incited by the “hate speech” contained within thier own koranic ideology.
          I don’t think you can speak on behalf of 1.5 billion moslems about what thier views are. Too many have been silent, too many have failed to defend the terroristic, misogynist, murderous actions of the so-called “extremists.” How does a moslem father in America come to “honor kill” his daughter for wearing Western clothing? Was he one of your 1.5 billion?
          I think exposure to and education of damaging islamic ideology needs to occur. If islam were to be established as a new “religion”, as it was written in the 7th century and as it is still practiced today, do you think anyone would embrace it as a “religion”? NO! It would be classified as a terrorist organization. Seven out of 10 moslem countries are identified as countries with the worst human rights conditions. As countries become more islamic, they become more crime-ridden and oppressive and reject conventional justice in favor of the awful sharia. Look at Germany, Sweden and France…
          Mira, I am a liberal feminist who did NOT vote for Trump. I beleive in free speech, freedom of and FROM religion, the separation of church and state, etc. etc. I am puzzled why my feminist colleagues can’t speak out against the misogyny and oppression of islam. Three Nobel Peace Prize winners since 2003 were moslem females awarded this for their work on the struggles and human rights of women and children. Again, were are the Western feminists? Unfortunately, they are defending islam and the right to wear the patriarchially-imposed hijab/niqab/burka…very very sad…

        • Peggy says

          Jan 19, 2017 at 8:59 pm

          These Moslem countries that aren’t so free know they have to shape up their act and stop human right violations. Transitions of governments come in time. So how do you do this, the Marxist way and kill everybody or other ways that take time but work?
          —————————
          How much time do they need?
          They’ve had 1400 years and they are still at the beginning.
          Where do you get the idea that they know they have to shape up? On the contrary, they want to convert the rest of us and pull us back too.

        • Mira Chaikin says

          Jan 19, 2017 at 9:30 pm

          Peggy, When Robert Spencer was a Moslem in another life over a thousand years ago, Islam was the most progressive religion on earth. Women were mandated to learn how to read and write, to agree to marry someone or not and most importantly, received their own dowry which made them property owners as opposed to their Christian and Jewish counterparts who were sold, in effect, by their fathers, who received the dowry.

          In more recent times, perhaps not so though they were better on the issue of slavery – conversion to Islam freed you from slavery. In the United States, except for Louisiana, there was the horrific chattel type slavery from which there was no freedom unless you managed to run away. Then again, there was slavery in the
          US up until the 1860’s, so we weren’t so progressive there and there were plenty of arranged marriages here, besides the 2nd class citizenship of non- whites.

          We are doing better in the United States now, so as I said before, change take time. As we can see, the violent overthrow of some of the moderate Islamic regimes in the North Africa, helped on by Mrs Clinton and Obama’s incompetent foreign policies, caused the ISIS monstrosity to move in on these countries.

        • gravenimage says

          Jan 20, 2017 at 7:16 pm

          Mira Chaikin wrote:

          The actually writings in the Quran actually say that one puts God before all – not your mother, father, husband, wife, sister, brother, boss, ruler, king, neighbor, group think. It’s between you and God.

          I think that is a good teaching.
          …………………………………

          Do you also think that being asked to enslave or slaughter your mother, father, husband, wife, sister, brother, boss, ruler, king, neighbor, etc. because they are not Muslim is a “good teaching”?

          The apostle said, “Kill any Jew that falls into your power.” Thereupon Muhayyisa leapt upon Ibn Sunayna, a Jewish merchant with whom they had social and business relations, and killed him. Huwayyisa was not a Muslim at the time, though he was the elder brother. When Muhayyisa killed [the Jew] Huwayyisa began to beat him, saying, “You enemy of God, did you kill him when much of the fat on your belly comes from his wealth?” Muhayyisa answered, “Had the one who ordered me to kill him ordered me to kill you I would have cut your head off.” This was the beginning of Huwayyisa’s acceptance of Islam… [Huwayyisa] replied exclaimed, “By God, a religion which can bring you to this is marvelous!” and he became a Muslim. (Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 554)

          More:

          There is no separation between Church and State in Islamic countries. Not unlike how Europe used to be. A totalitarian version of Christianity used to run Europe.
          …………………………………

          Actually, there was always a balance–uneasy or contentious though it might at times have been–between church and secular powers in Europe, all through the Middle Ages. Do you know nothing of history?

          More:

          The Jews of ancient times were also intolerant of non- Jews. The Mormons. How were the American Indians treated here because they weren’t Christian? And the Jewish folk in Christian Germany in the 1940’s? Or the Spanish Inquisition? What was that very predominant Christian group think going on in Europe for centuries, assholes? “The Jews killed Christ so we should kill them.”
          …………………………………

          Yes, there was a lot of ugly antisemitism in Europe, for centuries. But antisemitism was never a canonical part of Christianity–far from it, since Jesus himself and all the apostles were Jewish.

          But Jew hatred *is* an intrinsic part of Islam–see above. The Qur’an is full of murderous antisemitism, and a Hadith notes that in the last days that Muslims will slaughter all surviving Jews.

          There is *nothing* like that in Christianity. And no–the Nazis were not a Christian sect. In fact, Hitler admired Islam.

          More:

          Now the radical Islamists further twist and pervert the religion. (ISIS, Al Qaeda). You guys here are giving them more power than they have and are cheering them on as a macabre pornography.
          …………………………………

          What utter rot. What Jihad terror groups is doing is mainstream Islam–as they themselves constantly affirm. And the idea that pointing out the savagery of Islam is somehow enabling it is like saying that Churchill enabled Fascism by pointing out how violent it was.

          More:

          These Moslem countries that aren’t so free know they have to shape up their act and stop human right violations.
          …………………………………

          Why would they do that? These human rights violations are orthodox Islam. Islam institutionalizes the oppression of women and unbelievers. There is a reason why not a single Muslim country is free.

          More:

          Transitions of governments come in time. So how do you do this, the Marxist way and kill everybody or other ways that take time but work? They don’t have peaceful transitions of government. You have to kill the current leader and his guys for your team to run things. This happens all over, not just in Moslem countries.
          …………………………………

          There is absolutely *no* indication that Muslim countries are moving towards democracy–just the opposite, in fact. Many at least comparatively “moderate” Muslim nations like Turkey are further Islamizing.

          More:

          There is no mention of 72 virgins in the Quran. That’s a spin by the radicals. And some of the Quran is a discussion of current events going in at the time which had to do with military battles and politics.
          …………………………………

          The Qur’an itself is full of endless promises of paradise for Muslims who “kill and are killed in the path of Allah”–i.e., those who wage violent Jihad. And while it is only the Hadith that mention that there will be 72 virgins awaiting Muslims, Qur’an 56:35-38 do indeed promise created virgins to the Muslims in paradise.

          More:

          There are people I know and care about who are deployed in Syria and Iraq in the military. I doubt any of you do because you are cowards and only know and care about other cowards.
          …………………………………

          Standing against the violence of Islam makes one a coward? How would that work, exactly?

          More:

          And no, I am not Moslem. I used to hate Moslems, in truth. I was like Saul. I was taught to.
          …………………………………

          Few of us here hate Muslims. Most of us feel sorry for them, caught in such a vicious creed–and one that affirms death for apostasy. Hating Islam is something else again, and perfectly warranted.

          More:

          My area, by the way, my area is terrorism. I took 10 classes in the subject at the undergraduate and graduate level. With your stupid mouths, you are creating more of it. Valid concerns about human rights, that’s up for discussion, but not condeming 1.5 billion people because your understanding of their beliefs is based on twisted interpretation by fanatics who are perverted.
          …………………………………

          Too bad that you consider subject this your “area”, and yet appear to have missed that violent Jihad terrorism is waged on the texts and tenets of Islam, and on the model of the “Prophet” Muhammed himself.

          con’d

        • gravenimage says

          Jan 20, 2017 at 7:19 pm

          con’d

          More, in reply to Wellington:

          Buddy, you can’t win this argument by stereotyping.
          …………………………………

          Every adult Muslim follows Islam–and if he doesn’t, then he is a bad Muslim. This doesn’t make Islam itself any less malignant.

          More:

          And no, I can’t say that I am a Moslem but even if I were, you don’t go around making hate speech against any religion.
          …………………………………

          Telling the truth is not “hate speech”. Islam is a creed, and *any* creed may be criticized. Would you claim that criticizing Fascism and Communism are “hate speech”?

          More:

          I don’t know which country you live in, but that’s illegal here in the United States.
          …………………………………

          Wellington is not just an American, he is a retired *Law Professor*. The idea that criticizing Islam is illegal in the US is an utter falsehood.

          More:

          And you give the fanatical jihadists more company and safety than they actually have. All of the sudden, all 1.5 billion Moslems worldwide are fanatical jihadists, according to you and your friends’ take on things.
          …………………………………

          What rot. No, no one here has ever claimed that all 1.5 billion Muslims are practicing Jihadists.

          And again, the idea that telling the truth about Islam creates Muslim violence is ridiculous. And if Muslims *are* so apt to turn to Jihad terror that merely hearing that Islam is violent is enough to push them over the edge, then that in itself signifies that something is very wrong with the teachings of Islam.

          More, in reply to Susette:

          Susette, I have encountered some pretty disgusting language on some posts in this site which could be construed as hate speech. Not all, but some.
          …………………………………

          You can report such calls for violence–if they actually exist–to Robert Spencer, and they will be removed. There is a “Contact Us” box on the right-hand side or bottom of the page, depending on screen configuration.

          More:

          Spencer has you all schooled in the Jihadii/ISIS retarded interpretation of Islam, I do remind you that there are 1.5 billion Moslems worldwide and they don’t all share those views.
          …………………………………

          This is quite mainstream Islam, despite your claims to the contrary. Most Muslims, in fact, support violent Jihad and the imposition of brutal Shari’ah law. Even here in the US, a majority of Muslims say they wish to see the imposition of bloody Islamic law.

          More:

          I do agree with Spencer that there is a pattern of deliberate violent and unpleasant acts which are both planned and ad hoc by a trashy, angry bunch of people, the majority of which have been brought up Muslim culturally and are immigrants.
          …………………………………

          You consider pious Muslims “trashy people”? I doubt Muslims would be pleased to know you are openly denigrating their faith.

          More, in reply to Peggy:

          Peggy, When Robert Spencer was a Moslem in another life over a thousand years ago, Islam was the most progressive religion on earth. Women were mandated to learn how to read and write, to agree to marry someone or not and most importantly, received their own dowry which made them property owners as opposed to their Christian and Jewish counterparts who were sold, in effect, by their fathers, who received the dowry.
          …………………………………

          What utter claptrap. Firstly, are you unaware that Robert Spencer’s ancestors were oppressed under Islam? His grandfather fled Turkey to escape the violence.

          And no–a thousand years ago Islam was a vicious, conquering creed, as it has always been–and it was just as oppressive of women as it has been since the days of the “Prophet”. And are you claiming–laughably–that there was universal literacy among Muslim women in the tenth century, yet the rate of literacy among Muslim women in the Arab world today is under 50%. The literacy rate in Pakistan is just 30% for men, and under 15% for women.

          Given that printed books in Arabic and Turkish were unknown until the *18th century*, this claim about universal literacy in the past is quite absurd…

          More:

          In more recent times, perhaps not so though they were better on the issue of slavery – conversion to Islam freed you from slavery. In the United States, except for Louisiana, there was the horrific chattel type slavery from which there was no freedom unless you managed to run away. Then again, there was slavery in the
          US up until the 1860’s, so we weren’t so progressive there and there were plenty of arranged marriages here, besides the 2nd class citizenship of non- whites.
          …………………………………

          Te West *abolished* slavery–in the US, even fighting a bloody civil war to do so. Slavery has not only never ended in the Muslim world–an estimated 17% of the population in Mauritania is enslaved–but it is *resurgent* there. The Islamic State is openly taking and selling sex slaves.

          Al Azhar–the seat of orthodox Sunni learning–itself affirms that slavery is perfectly Islamic. The “Prophet” himself enslaved people, slave traded, and raped sex slaves.

          More:

          We are doing better in the United States now, so as I said before, change take time. As we can see, the violent overthrow of some of the moderate Islamic regimes in the North Africa, helped on by Mrs Clinton and Obama’s incompetent foreign policies, caused the ISIS monstrosity to move in on these countries.
          …………………………………

          You have made no case whatsoever for human rights improving in the Muslim world. In fact, with the lessening influence of the civilized West, things are generally getting steadily worse.

          And yes–there is no doubt that the foolish policies of Obama and Clinton have not helped–in fact, you will find few fans of their harmful policies here.

          But it is also true that no matter how inept the policies of the West, that this does not explain the growing appeal of ISIS all over the Muslim world. The only thing that explains this is Islam itself, and its pious adherents being drawn to the practice of pure Islam.

    • Champ says

      Jan 19, 2017 at 3:45 pm

      Mira Chaikin wrote:

      “On a certain level, Judaism, Christianity and Islam are pretty much the same.”

      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

      Ok they’re all religions, but that’s where the similarities begin, and end.

      Of the 3 religions listed, islam is merely a ‘religion’ on the surface. Once you look behind the religious facade you will discover that islam is in fact a political ideology whose ultimate goal is world domination.

      • Mira Chaikin says

        Jan 19, 2017 at 6:14 pm

        Take it however you want. I’m sorry you wish Miss Lohan ill well.

        No separation between church and state.

        • Champ says

          Jan 19, 2017 at 6:24 pm

          Mira Chaikin wrote:

          “I’m sorry you wish Miss Lohan ill well.”

          ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

          This is a gross distortion of what I wrote, and how “Mira” arrived at this preposterous conclusion–from what I wrote–is anyone’s guess.

          For the record, I would never “wish” *anyone* “ill.” Also, my “wish” is that Lohan would leave islam.

        • Champ says

          Jan 19, 2017 at 6:27 pm

          Additionally …

          I “wish” that people–like Mira–would educate themselves about islam’s core tenets and the key differences between islam and other religions before leaving comments.

        • Samuel barthis says

          Jan 20, 2017 at 1:12 am

          Mira Chaikin Misunderstands Islam, Islam is not a religion it is a Way of Life. There is no dichotomy between religion and Politics; the two coalesce. The result is that for the “moderate” and the “militant” Muslims the ideal is emphasized in the Qur’an. Thus, there may be “bad” and “good” Muslims. However, Mira misunderstand those who are willing to criticize Islam. How many silent Muslims are agitating to hurt “Christians”? Remember, not everybody is a Christian, when a bomb goes off it kills the “Christian Hindu” or “Christian atheist” or anybody that is deemed “Christian.” This pedagogy is entrenched in the Qur’an; not all Muslims are active soldiers but they actuate upon internalizing the dogmata of the their scripture, refer to San Bernadino, Paris, Boston, Charlie Hebdo, etc. Those actions became fomented upon the resonance of the Qur’an

        • Mira Chaikin says

          Jan 20, 2017 at 10:51 am

          And White Christmas is just for White People.

        • gravenimage says

          Jan 20, 2017 at 8:47 pm

          Of course the civilized Champ does not wish Lindsay Lohan ill–she is concerned that she is considering converting to a creed that is apt to harm her.

          And no, “White Christmas” is not just for white people. “White Christmas” refers to a snowy Christmas, not to being Caucasian, and may be enjoyed by people of all races.

          And here’s “White Christmas” sung by The Drifters, an African American band:

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgGcrvApljY

          This version has been a best-seller for over sixty years now.

      • Mira Chaikin says

        Jan 20, 2017 at 1:17 am

        Sorry that was to someone else. Though there are plenty of comments on that post that don’t wish her well.

        Moses was spoken to by God through the Burning Bush, the Prophet Isaiah prophesized the coming of Jesus, and Mohammad was given revelation from the Angel Gabriel.

        If you don’t believe in the spirituality of this and that belief comes to one through the grace of God – and the Old Testament, New Testament and Koran are identical in this matter – then yes, it is just some sort of political entity.

        So some see it as politics and some see it as a spiritual belief.

        Terrorism tends to be political.

        • carol says

          Jan 20, 2017 at 5:57 am

          Mira…I think you need to read a book like Raymond Ibrahim’s “Crucified Again”. The evils Islam propagates transcend race, culture, country etc. The evidence is there.
          And why should anyone assume criticism of Islam means blanket criticism of Muslims? No one needs to be told there are kind people within Islam. The main resentment peaceful Muslims garner is because they lack responsibility, knowledge and/or discrimination and thus lend credence to a totalitarian ideology that does not deserve credence. Constructive criticism, information, sarcasm, and balloon-bursting humor is what is going on at this site and wherever you find people who still have their “heads screwed on straight”. You sound like an emotional “lefty” but most of the people posting here have been around too long to even have their feathers ruffled by you.

        • Susette says

          Jan 20, 2017 at 9:34 am

          Well said, Carol!

        • gravenimage says

          Jan 20, 2017 at 7:24 pm

          Mira Chaikin wrote:

          Mohammad was given revelation from the Angel Gabriel.
          ……………………….,.

          It is the *nature* of the “revelation” that is troubling–and that leads to the constant Jihad terror we see everywhere today.

  42. Susan says

    Jan 18, 2017 at 11:50 pm

    What better way for an immature child, desperate for attention, to get attention, than to join the most controversial “religion” in modern times. Not to mention the most violent. I agree with Robert…. I can’t understand why any thinking Western woman would voluntarily submit herself to such a woman-hating philosophy. (And before you anti-Christian types start screaming what is your usual ignorance, remember that Christ did not advocate wife-beating, child sexual abuse, etc., but rather protected women from things like stoning mobs and the poverty of divorce…)

  43. ibrahim itace muhammed says

    Jan 19, 2017 at 12:54 am

    jon james,it is not muslims’ scriptures that say you christians or akum have sex with animals.it is your master the jews’ scriptures that say so.see talmud sandaherin 21.thus,jews are warned not allow their animals cross into your homes or allow you to enter their animals’s farms for fear that you will have sex with them.it appears that you are not worried with those obnoxious contents of your master jews scriptures.you shift your your contempt to our scriptures saying all kinds of lies against them.that may be because you submit to jews as their slaves.according to jore dea 377,1,christians are property owned by the jews in the forms of mokeys talking.

    • don vito says

      Jan 19, 2017 at 1:44 am

      itace, you must stop eating the meat of dead kufr, your mind is turning spongey. itace, how would akufr, safeguard their blood and property from the knarley, deformed, outstretched grasping, bloody, murderous hands, of your violent, vile, insane, filthy prophet?

    • gravenimage says

      Jan 20, 2017 at 10:12 pm

      Increasingly unhinged Mohammedan ibrahim itace muhammed wrote:

      jon (sic) james,it (sic) is not muslims’ (sic) scriptures that say you christians (sic) or akum (sic) have sex with animals.it (sic) is your master the jews’ (sic) scriptures that say so.see (sic) talmud sandaherin 21.thus,jews (sic) are warned not allow their animals cross into your homes or allow you to enter their animals’s (sic) farms for fear that you will have sex with them.it (sic) appears that you are not worried with those obnoxious contents of your master jews (sic) scriptures.
      ……………………………….

      Where to start? First, there is no such verse as “talmud sandaherin 21”–does muhammed mean Talmud Sanhedrin 21? Probably so. Unfortunately, these verses have to do primarily with royal marriage. The only reference to animals has to do with whether kings should keep “idle horses”, not about Gentiles wanting to have sex with them.

      More:

      you (sic) shift your your contempt to our scriptures saying all kinds of lies against them.
      ……………………………….

      Notice that muhammed has never once been able to point to a single “lie” anyone here has said against Islamic scripture–nor is he able to here.

      Yet more:

      that (sic) may be because you submit to jews (sic) as their slaves.according (sic) to jore dea 377,1,christians (sic) are property owned by the jews (sic) in the forms of mokeys (sic) talking.
      ……………………………….

      Well, this is just bizarre–even Muslim hate sites don’t refer to this. Is muhammed just making this crap up as he goes along, the way he has claimed that most Americans are born in “baby factories” and that Donald Trump was going to decree that women attending his inauguration do so in the nude? How did *that* prediction work out for him?

      But this is just the usual for him, in any case–that if Christians are not enslaving Jews, that they must perforce be enslaved by them. He is, as always, unable to conceive of relationships between equals.

  44. Samuel barthis says

    Jan 19, 2017 at 3:21 am

    O come on guys, wish her well…no more booze, sex in the open and …Perhaps, it will calm her down; her trajectory will now to be the wife of more than one guy to have children. She will have too cook and slave for her husband. I think despite all the negatives of Islam this may be good for her. She’s come off the rails in last many years and conceivably with all the limitations inherent in Islam she may turn the corner .Inshallah

    • gravenimage says

      Jan 20, 2017 at 11:17 pm

      I wouldn’t wish Islam on my worst enemy–on certainly not on this troubled girl.

  45. Roger Dodger says

    Jan 19, 2017 at 3:21 am

    She has proclaimed herself a lesbian in the past, so maybe they will throw her off a rooftop?

    ? If Islamists, or the Left, or the Euro-Weenies, or the Establishment Deep State’s lips are moving, they are apparently lying, deranged, or deluded.

    The same applies to their supporters, enablers, and advocates. Also to their Fake News, multi-millionaire, mouthy, “anchor” Faces, and to their spoiled brat, Marxist-propagandized, demented, dumb, drug addict “celebrities.”

    Don’t buy their CDs or the products they hawk on TV, don’t go to their inane movies, don’t visit their stupid sites, don’t listen to them on the radio.

    Don’t watch them on their Fake News TV, don’t buy tickets to see them do ANYthing, and especially don’t watch or attend their dumb, leftist-activist “shows.”

    Are they the oily, lying, “Shmuck Shroomer,” political type? 

    Or the lying, insane, “You can Keep Your Doctor,” I-rule-the-world, type? 

    Or the “Pajama Boy,” T-Shirted, Marxist-indoctrinated, spoiled, over-educated, multi-billionaire, or the web or silicon mogul type?

    Or the blathering, “Holy,” Islamist, devoutly corrupt, Marxist, “priestly” type, from some other world?

    Or the radical, leftist, multi-millionaire, arrogant, self-agrandizing “media” liar type?

    If so, they would be your leftist, Islamist, One-World, slave-master wannabes. Your Rulers in waiting. And they are coming after you and your family, just as they are coming after Donald Trump and his family.

    And…you have only to see the bloated, vacuous, dissolute-looking, mashed potato, collapsed-bullfrog face, of their newest poster shill. 

    ” ‘The Tea Party Spit On Me,’ John Louse.” The lying, failed, “great civil rights leader.” 

    See how they roll in their own, filthy, stinking lies about Donald Trump and you?

    Their despicable “heroes,” like Louse, and—Her The Stumbling Zombie Witch of New York—they demonstrate they stop at Nothing to grasp and clutch  at their rotting, stinking, filthy goals for YOU.

    Don’t believe any lying word they say. Ignore their lies. Defund them; block their plots. 

    “Find them; fix them in place; isolate them; and ridicule them.” (To paraphrase their leader, Saul Alinksky)

    Think: would you maybe wipe them out financially? Or have them praising Trump? All in about 6 weeks? ??
    .
    Oh…by the way…we don’t “protest;” we don’t “riot;” we don’t “organize,” create “snowflake cells,” or “do Twitter,” in place of action. 

    Will you pass these ideas onward and forward to your mailing lists and resources?

  46. L'Enfer says

    Jan 19, 2017 at 4:10 am

    Yeah…and Picasso claimed to be a Communist -no kidding.

    Funny isn’t it.

  47. duh swami says

    Jan 19, 2017 at 5:37 am

    She is ‘self medicating…Or so she may think…She needs a strict environment to control her. The jails of kufr couldn’t do it, maybe the prison of Islam will…

  48. Twerzig says

    Jan 19, 2017 at 6:46 am

    I liked Herbie:Fully Loaded so much I watched it twice.

  49. Singh the Sikh says

    Jan 19, 2017 at 6:51 am

    Robert’s piece is a damning body of truth. It’s irrefutable, every single point that the article makes. The truth hurts. Unbreably. So the article had to brought down quickly and fully.

    Muslims more than any other group are scared of the truth. They cannot look into the mirror as it would mean seeing the ugliness, and coming to terms with it. So the mirror Robert put up had to be smashed as it was too confronting.

    Muslims can’t bear the sight of their own true self, so they live a state of perpetual denial, such as ‘religion of peace’ bulshit. They will tear down and destroy anything that exposes and challenges their imagined existence – perfect of all peoples, as their Koran fallaciously tells them.

    The ridiculousness of Islam was exposed by Charlie Hebdo, and Muslims responded in the only way they know since they have no other defence against the truth but violent and desperate reaction to bury the truth, which has the uncormfortable and disconcerting habit of reappearing.

  50. Kenn Goodwin says

    Jan 19, 2017 at 7:14 am

    Michael Jackson converted and it did not get picked up by the rotating news media
    .

  51. Dacritic says

    Jan 19, 2017 at 10:42 am

    She needs help. She needs BIG, BIG help.

  52. John A. Marre says

    Jan 19, 2017 at 2:31 pm

    If she converts to that violent political ideology she is a complete asshole.

  53. The renegade says

    Jan 20, 2017 at 1:44 am

    I think Lilo was either intoxicated from alcohol or drugs when she said yes to Islam.

    People with weak minds who are not in control of their lives see Islam like some sort of a military boot camp to clean themselves up to get their broken life back together.

    What they dont realise is Islam destroys human civility and free spirit and there is no leaving Islam.

    You can make amends for every mistake in your life but islam is a mistake which may take your life, quite literally!

    If LILO came to me seeking advice of whether to choose drugs or Islam, i would tell her to choose love instead.

    Find some one to love and share what remains of your life with that one person.

    Leave drugs, alchohol and islam. Dont be a slave to these things.

  54. Mira Chaikin says

    Jan 21, 2017 at 4:54 am

    These posts here by all of you sound like something that can be found on an Aryan Nations blog. Some Aryan Nations members have actually trained with ISIS and Al Qaeda in Iraq and Syria, by the way.

    Ray Kelly, the former police commissioner of NYC and a current associate of the Counter Extremism Project is something of a mentor to me. He says that you guys aren’t doing anything here that serves any positive purpose.

    Well, I’ve had a good day today. My adored reincarnated brother from my last life when we lived in Ohio,who is now Donald J. Trump, just got inaugurated as the President of the United States.

    • gravenimage says

      Jan 21, 2017 at 9:04 pm

      Mira Chaikin wrote:

      These posts here by all of you sound like something that can be found on an Aryan Nations blog. Some Aryan Nations members have actually trained with ISIS and Al Qaeda in Iraq and Syria, by the way.
      …………………………………

      Being concerned about a troubled young woman converting to a creed that would flog or stone her to death for many of her previous actions “sound like something that can be found on an Aryan Nations blog”? In what conceivable manner?

      And Jihad Watch has long pointed out the frequent links between Islam and Fascism.

      More:

      Ray Kelly, the former police commissioner of NYC and a current associate of the Counter Extremism Project is something of a mentor to me. He says that you guys aren’t doing anything here that serves any positive purpose.
      …………………………………

      Given the findings of “Radicalization in the West: The Homegrown Threat”–compiled under Ray Kelly’s auspices as NYC Police Commissioner–this seems highly unlikely. Note, particularly, the section on “Jihadization”.

      More:

      Well, I’ve had a good day today. My adored reincarnated brother from my last life when we lived in Ohio,who is now Donald J. Trump, just got inaugurated as the President of the United States.
      …………………………………

      Is that so? You do know that Donald Trump actually opposes Jihad terror?

  55. Kay says

    Jan 21, 2017 at 9:30 pm

    @ Mira Chalkin

    You have argued utter nonsense above and now you turn to simply discrediting people through name calling.

    If you truly have known this young woman’s father and cared about her as such a relationship would imply, you also would be praying for her to run to the arms of her loving Father, the Author of all that is good and the giver of life, that she would truly learn and embrace the faith of her childhood in which Jesus, Savior of the world and Savior of each individual who receives Him, is waiting for her.

  56. Karina says

    Jan 22, 2017 at 9:13 pm

    What a mentally deluded woman.

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