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Trump: US shouldn’t admit those who practice “‘honor’ killings, other forms of violence against women”

Jan 26, 2017 10:04 am By Robert Spencer

War on women!

I posted this excerpt from “Protecting the Nation from Terrorist Attacks by Foreign Nationals,” President Trump’s executive order on immigration, earlier, but there are so many aspects of it that deserve emphasis, I thought another post was warranted. You can read the full text here.

In order to protect Americans, we must ensure that those admitted to this country do not bear hostile attitudes toward our country and its founding principles. We cannot, and should not, admit into our country those who do not support the U.S. Constitution, or those who would place violent religious edicts over American law. In addition, the United States should not admit those who engage in acts of bigotry and hatred (including “honor” killings, other forms of violence against women, or the persecution of those who practice other religions) or those who would oppress members of one race, one gender, or sexual orientation.

Muslims commit 91 percent of honor killings worldwide. A manual of Islamic law certified as a reliable guide to Sunni orthodoxy by Al-Azhar, the most respected authority in Sunni Islam, says that “retaliation is obligatory against anyone who kills a human being purely intentionally and without right.” However, “not subject to retaliation” is “a father or mother (or their fathers or mothers) for killing their offspring, or offspring’s offspring.” (‘Umdat al-Salik o1.1-2). In other words, someone who kills his child incurs no legal penalty under Islamic law. In this case the victim was the murderer’s daughter, a victim to the culture of violence and intimidation that such laws help create.

The Palestinian Authority gives pardons or suspended sentences for honor murders. Iraqi women have asked for tougher sentences for Islamic honor murderers, who get off lightly now. Syria in 2009 scrapped a law limiting the length of sentences for honor killings, but “the new law says a man can still benefit from extenuating circumstances in crimes of passion or honour ‘provided he serves a prison term of no less than two years in the case of killing.’” And in 2003 the Jordanian Parliament voted down on Islamic grounds a provision designed to stiffen penalties for honor killings. Al-Jazeera reported that “Islamists and conservatives said the laws violated religious traditions and would destroy families and values.”

Until the encouragement Islamic law gives to honor killing is acknowledged and confronted, more women will suffer. President Trump is trying to keep women from suffering in this way in the United States.

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  1. Don McKellar says

    Jan 26, 2017 at 10:10 am

    And the Left is opposed to this! You would think that, if they actually stood for what they say they do, they would be lauding Trump as the great president he is rapidly shaping up to be. And the mainstream media is trying to obscure it and block its content from their newscasts and newspapers and websites, preferring to drum up fear instead.

    • Don McKellar says

      Jan 26, 2017 at 10:24 am

      Where are all those idiots in their “pussy hats” from the other day? What is their opinion of this Executive Order? Do they have any idea at all of what good Trump is doing for America with this? What good he’s doing by setting an example for the world? For women? I bet they haven’t got a clue and are sticking their fingers in their ears and stomping their feet in willful ignorance.

      • Vyx says

        Jan 26, 2017 at 12:14 pm

        I believe that feminists and gays simply believe “it can’t happen here” and therefore, it’s a non issue for them. They see Islam as a minority they HAVE to support as good liberals. The fact that there have been honor killings in the US, as well as gays killed by Muslims has no bearing on their “special” reality.

        For anyone who’s interested, there’s a video by Black Pidgeon Speaks called “How Women Destroy Nations” that speaks to the bizarre link between feminism and Islam. Very eye opening.

        • Canadian Woman says

          Jan 26, 2017 at 6:32 pm

          Thanks. I will pick up a copy.

      • john spielman says

        Jan 26, 2017 at 12:19 pm

        since the WOMENS MARCH organizer Linda Sansour is hamASS affiliated muslim who is PRO SHARIA, I suspect SHE is unhappy this order- because she can’t push her pro sharia agenda that must include that cliterectony funding be made mandatory by all health insurance carriers! along with mandatory stoning of all rape victims ( for fornication/adultery ), if 3 male witnesses cannot be found to corroborate the victims story. She must push for immediate execution of all apostates from islam, and blasphemers (like me)- who insist that muhammed was a demon possessed mass murderer thief liar and pedophile pervert and allah is Satan himself!

        • Shane says

          Jan 27, 2017 at 10:42 am

          I believe a rape victim needs four male witnesses to prove that she was raped under barbaric, misogynistic, 7th century Sharia law.

      • GeorgeRomero says

        Jan 27, 2017 at 1:46 am

        So true Don its sickening isn’t it?

      • Shane says

        Jan 27, 2017 at 10:40 am

        Many liberals are willfully blind to the horrors of Islam with its FGM, honor killings, polygamy, barbaric sharia law, violent jihad, and how violent Muhammad was ( read The Truth About Muhammad by Robert Spencer!).

    • Voytek Gagalka says

      Jan 26, 2017 at 11:45 am

      Left is opposed to this because is blinded by “Islamophobia” hoax which, in their minds, takes absolute priority, very similar as “racism” slander is. But how one can learn ANYTHING about ideology if even learning and critical examination of it is forbidden and branded immediately as “Islamophobia”? Vicious circle.

      • Kay says

        Jan 27, 2017 at 12:57 am

        Exactly

    • Guest says

      Jan 26, 2017 at 2:34 pm

      I can’t find a singe MSM article when I search “the United States should not admit those who engage in acts of bigotry and hatred (including “honor” killings, other forms of violence against women”

      I am becoming so sick of the MSM spin. So many lies about what Trump actually said, eg, re Mexicans (I’m the only person in my circle of friends who actually listened to that speech the MSM lied about), and so many lies about the German conservative party AfD. Again, one has to listen to their speeches and read their policies – they aren’t in the least ‘Nazis’ or ‘extreme right’ as the MSM claim.

      Whose reporting can you trust anymore? Nobody’s. One has to listen to every speech, read every policy in detail.

      • Veka Fitzfrancis says

        Jan 26, 2017 at 6:53 pm

        There was a time when people did just that. Somehow, as a nation, we have moved away for our own political awareness, content to let the governing class.grow.

    • pbay says

      Jan 27, 2017 at 8:00 am

      how do you tell them apart? They all lie

    • Dacritic says

      Jan 27, 2017 at 8:02 pm

      Yea, and the Women’s March is for…??? The Left is fucking useless. Sorry not that useless, actually just useful idiots used by the terrorist Linda Sarsour.

  2. Richie says

    Jan 26, 2017 at 10:46 am

    I’ve said it before, I’ll say it again- President Trump needs to hire Robert Spencer to help train the FBI and other agencies to help them identify Islamic threats

    • Daniel Triplett says

      Jan 26, 2017 at 12:03 pm

      A window office in the West Wing would be suitable,a very short walk to the Oval. Robert and Steve Bannon would likely work great together.

    • Tjhawk says

      Jan 26, 2017 at 3:18 pm

      Yes, Robert would be a great advisor. Then they could re-hire Stephen Coughlin as an INTELLIGENT Analyst for the intelligence agencies. He was fired because he knew too much about the islamic agenda. The slimy brotherhood infiltrators didn’t like that and started a campaign and got Coughlin removed. They got rid of his accurate analysis. Then they did an Orwellian reeducation of the agents, and installed the useless, brotherhood compliant “Countering Violent Extremism” narrative. I can’t tell you how pleased I would be if Spencer and Coughlin could be put in positions where they could inform the people who matter.

      • dumbledoresarmy says

        Jan 27, 2017 at 9:29 am

        And Raymond Ibrahim, who has written a definitive series of articles on all the multifarious forms of Mohammedan deception, beginning with a classic article that originally appeared in Jane’s Islamic Affairs Analyst – “How Taqiyya Alters Islam’s Rules of War”.

        Trump *needs* Ibrahim so that he can decode mohammedan doublespeak, nonsense-and-lies.

        (He’s probably got a pretty good BS detector, but you need a super-special and well-tuned BS detector, to deal with the Mohammedan Mob, which has been busy deceiving and confusing and betraying all kinds of Infidels for 1400 years).

    • karl Anglin says

      Jan 26, 2017 at 4:43 pm

      Absolutely!

    • TR says

      Jan 27, 2017 at 9:49 am

      Who in the FBI had enough influence to censor the Radical SDS / Radical Islamic partnership reports and information out of the curriculum in the National Academy at Quantico. Younger Special Agents in 2003 had no idea of the SDS connection. Nor, had they had ever heard of the SDS. The Radical Left was decimated in1970’s in New York’s Niagara Regional SDS. They swore revenge to one day destroy the FBI. Their Leftist Media Propaganda machine was cranking full steam at that time using the Main Stream Media, especially Walter Cronkite and CBS, attacking the FBI counter Intelligence Program which infiltrated the leadership of the Region which was the catalyst of their destruction. It seems today, through the Obama Administration, they have inflicted a severe credibility doubt upon the FBI Integrity motto. Did the FBI itself become infiltrated after Mr Hoover’s death?

  3. duh swami says

    Jan 26, 2017 at 10:58 am

    Does this mean we are getting close to a ban on sharia? That’s a lot like banning Islam, isn’t it?

    • Angemon says

      Jan 26, 2017 at 2:13 pm

      Plenty of sharia law is already illegal, if the law of the land is enforced.

      • Daniel Triplett says

        Jan 26, 2017 at 2:37 pm

        So true.

        We’re all such fools not to collectively see this already.

      • Kay says

        Jan 27, 2017 at 1:01 am

        Yes.
        We have the Constitution. We really should have nonees to debate shariah sunce we alryhave laws.
        Except that insidiously it has been creeping in, even if not on the books.

        • Daniel Triplett says

          Jan 28, 2017 at 4:38 pm

          We need to get the POTUS and Congressman Trey Gowdy on this, pronto.

    • dumbledoresarmy says

      Jan 27, 2017 at 9:30 am

      Yep. More than one way to skin a cat.

      Synecdoche, pars pro toto, and all that.

  4. Dum Spiro says

    Jan 26, 2017 at 11:34 am

    On a horrifying note, one of the police officers in the jail told us that there are honor killings in Dearborn but that they get covered up by the police department. He said that he had walked into houses where girls had been beheaded or had had their throats slit. (But check the local newspapers. You won’t find any mention of these crimes.)

    Read that and more here: http://www.answeringmuslims.com/2010/12/acts-17-apologetics-in-dearborn.html?m=1

    Also do a search on honor diaries on the web and especially on YouTube. You can watch and learn a lot…
    — Spero

    • Dum Spiro says

      Jan 26, 2017 at 11:37 am

      That’s honor diaries. Lots of YouTube videos you can watch and share with the women in your life…
      — Spero

    • Guest says

      Jan 26, 2017 at 2:37 pm

      And because there is no MSM reporting on this, it would be stamped ‘fake journalism’.

  5. PRCS says

    Jan 26, 2017 at 11:35 am

    “Until the encouragement Islamic law gives to honor killing is acknowledged and confronted”

    Let me to expand upon that—

    Until the public acknowledges, confronts and prevents the implementation off every aspect of Islamic law which is incompatible with our constitution and laws…..

    No, not mundane shari’ah nonsense like with which hand Allah’s slaves are supposed to wipe their butts, but serious issues like death for apostasy which have no place here or anywhere else.

    • Daniel Triplett says

      Jan 26, 2017 at 12:23 pm

      Perhaps we could persuade Americans first, then the World, to recognize Islam as a whole as a crime.

      About 75% of the post-Abrogate Koran is criminal. Why try and pick out the bad parts in an effort to save Islam? We know reformation is illegal in Islamic law anyway, and won’t happen. There’s nothing at all worth saving.

      This is like removing stink from shit. Can’t happen. Let’s flush all of it to Hell.

      • PRCS says

        Jan 26, 2017 at 2:02 pm

        Because some of Islam’s tenets are not in the least criminal.

        Let’s concentrate on those of Islam’s teachings which ARE criminal here and that our fellow citizens NEED to know about Islam in order to confront Muslim lies, deceit and obfuscations about the ROP.

        They can relate criminality with death for apostasy, but aren’t likely to get too worked up about which foot Muslims are supposed to enter and leave the bathroom with.

        • Daniel Triplett says

          Jan 26, 2017 at 2:25 pm

          @PRCS

          I totally agree with you. Focus on the scary parts. I didn’t articulate myself well, and I can see why you just said that.

          So how about this as a better answer?

          I think a great start would be a National push to “de-religionize,” and instead “criminalize” Islam. This must happen either with President Trump addressing the Nation in front of a camera from his desk, or maybe better, a prominent legislator standing in front of packed House Floor.

          I can imagine a no-nonsense, tough as nails Congressman like Trey Gowdy standing in front of the House Floor with a stack of poster boards, with one violent “revelation” written on each poster board. And underneath the Islamic passage, in boldface, write down the Section and Paragraph in the US Code of Federal Regulations that makes that passage a Federal felony under current US Law.

          Then just start reading through them. All 75+ of them.

          At the end, asking:

          “Does this look like a ‘religion’ to anyone?”

          “Could anyone start this ‘religion’ today?”

          “What if it didn’t have the benefit of a 1400 year name called ‘Islam,’ but instead we changed its name to ISISism?” “Would everyone yield to it the same respect, tolerance, and Constitutional protections with its new name?” “If not, then why are we giving it any respect under its 1400 year name?”

          “Why must we tolerate this and give it Constitutional protections?”

          “If we removed the binders to these Islamic source texts, holding, examining, and judging each page individually on its own merit, would it still look like a ‘religion’ as a whole?” “If not, why then when we bind the pages back altogether with a binder do they transform from crimes back into ‘religious doctrine’?”

          etc, etc. A stud like Trey Gowdy could think of 1000 compelling, persuasive questions that I can’t. At the end, I’m sure Congressman Gowdy will have made the point, and the campaign to criminalize Islam would begin, ushering in a new era of Freedom and protection for the US (and the World).

        • PRCS says

          Jan 26, 2017 at 4:40 pm

          While no law can prevent or prohibit what people believe, of course, and the First Amendment (Congress shall not…) would prohibit criminalizing the entire ideology, existing laws do make actually carrying out certain of Islam’s commands criminal offenses,

          IMO, a public Q and A session (perhaps the Gowdyesque scenario you suggest) is essential for our fellow citizens to learn exactly what those commands are and that those who carry them out will suffer the consequences of our man made laws.

          Of equal importance, participating Muslims should be put on the spot by asking them, publicly, to either defend or reject those commands.

        • Daniel Triplett says

          Jan 28, 2017 at 4:48 pm

          @PRCS

          Right, well most of Islamic Sharia already is a crime on the books [Sedition, Conspiracy to Murder, Wife Beating, Hanging Gays, etc. etc.]

          I often propose making the “practice or promotion” of Islam a crime. But perhaps a more articulate, accurate proposal would be to “enforce the existing felonies that already exist in Islamic Sharia.” And if we do that, there’s really not much left of post-Abrogate Islam.

  6. Daniel Triplett says

    Jan 26, 2017 at 12:24 pm

    I love this man more and more every day.

    • Vic says

      Jan 26, 2017 at 2:57 pm

      Yes! Me too!
      Every day has turned out to be an exciting day!
      Thank you, Pres DJT!

  7. somehistory says

    Jan 26, 2017 at 1:43 pm

    How many years now have there been reports of women *killing themselves by hitting their heads on tables* or *murdered by someone who didn’t like the scarf-wearers*…?

    Will this order mean that those crimes will be reopened and the murderers will be arrested and deported? If there were arrests of all of the moslims in this country who have murdered their wives or daughters due to islam, and the arrests made the news, it would shock a lot of people who see islam as harmless and moslim families as *loving.*

  8. Vic says

    Jan 26, 2017 at 2:47 pm

    Robert Spencer has gone where no one wants to go… He is such an extremist!
    He says until we understand and acknowledge the root of the problem we will continue to be blind to the threat.
    Islam is a totalitarian ideology hiding under a religion.
    So if one wants to question any part of their religion, they seek protection under the first Ammendment and if one questions sharia, then they claim it’s hate speech and Islamophobic. Others claim that Muslims should have the right to practice their religion, but while they are doing that they are promoting a totalitarian package. Catch 22. Robert is right. Islam doesn’t accept separation of religion and state.
    Even when some Muslims want to be reformers there is no way to reform or amend the “perfect book or the perfect example of the prophet’s sayings and deeds”. Reformers are apostates according to Islam. Moderate Muslims are an accident waiting to happen. If they are called to meet their obligation and refuse, they are apostates as well.
    What is a Muslim to do? Obey the Quran’s mandate or your community will ostracize you at best or kill you at worst. So they come to the West to fulfill their obligation by infiltration. I give you Huma Abedin, Linda Sarsour as examples of moderate Muslims. And in many cases those who want to escape hope to do so by maintaining a low key profile and hope not to be detected.
    Robert Spencer said in one of his talks that when the US went into Iraq we should have announced to the people–We will take with us and protect all those who want to leave. I wonder how many would have chosen to leave? Maybe that is something that can be offered if Muslims want to be admitted to the US. Are you willing to renounce your alligeance to Islam, Allah, Mo and the Ummah.? No turning back. But now they have to be protected.
    Maybe Pres Trump will get a clear understanding of how to eradicate this many tentacled monster from within our country and deal a mighty blow for humanity everywhere.

    • Daniel Triplett says

      Jan 26, 2017 at 3:38 pm

      I believe most Muslims truly buy into the evil.

      Otherwise, why don’t all the al-hijrah Muslims apostatize the moment they set foot in Europe or N America where they’re protected by our Western laws? They don’t.

      And why don’t the al-hijrah Muslimas envy our Western women and divorce their husbands (owners) once they reach Dar al-Harb? They don’t.

  9. Guest says

    Jan 26, 2017 at 4:01 pm

    Thank you Mr. Trump

  10. somehistory says

    Jan 26, 2017 at 4:36 pm

    I read on another site that albright, the former Sec. of State, says she is going to “register as a moslim” in solidarity. She was raised Catholic and found out she is Jewish.

    What exactly does an American do to register as moslim? Will she begin to wear the burqa? Has a Jew ever successfully become a moslim? Why would anyone wish to?

  11. LairdKintyre says

    Jan 26, 2017 at 5:48 pm

    I wish Trump would sort out Trudeau on this when he visits Canada.

  12. theendofthedemonrat says

    Jan 26, 2017 at 5:55 pm

    He`s slowly bringing more and more of pislam into the open to be examined and am loving that. Trump rocks.

  13. Joe says

    Jan 26, 2017 at 9:28 pm

    This is in fact a Muslim ban. Temporary until they have proper vetting processes. It’s not called like that but it is. Great!

  14. stan lee says

    Jan 27, 2017 at 1:41 am

    Shutting down shariah law would eliminate the primitive laws practiced by Islam. Shariah is Islam and Islam is shariah!

  15. Timoteo Arao says

    Jan 27, 2017 at 1:55 am

    Welcome, a thousand times at the White house, Mr President Donald Trump. It was a dream. NOW IT HAS BECOME A REALITY. Thank God.

  16. abad says

    Jan 27, 2017 at 7:31 am

    Thank you President Trump I am very proud to have you as my President – you will do everything in your power to keep Americans especially women here safe.

    Love,

    Me

  17. duh swami says

    Jan 27, 2017 at 8:40 am

    Ban anyone who believes Allah is God…

  18. mortimer says

    Jan 27, 2017 at 10:10 am

    Islam is completely abrogated by modern human rights codes.

    Why? Because we knew more than Bedouins knew in the 7th century.

    Modernity overthrows the Islamic abuse and exploitation of women and the exploitation and abuse of ‘others’ unfortunate enough to fall under Islamic rule.

    Islam is totally opposed to modern human rights codes. Even if Muslim countries agree to these codes ‘in principle’, it will be noted that the legislatures of many Muslim countries have not RATIFIED modern human rights codes. This means that DISCRIMINATORY and DRACONIAN Sharia law STILL overrules modern human rights.

    Most Muslim countries are still living in the Middle Ages as far as human rights are concerned. The rights of ‘others’ (i.e. non-Muslim minorities) are SIMPLY IGNORED in Muslim countries.

    Islam is shown to be false, because we have learned that persecution of minorities is BIGOTRY and morally wrong. ‘Allah’ never realized that the Koran was teaching CRIMES against humanity. Therefore Islam is seen to false.

  19. kanda .Elongi says

    Jan 27, 2017 at 6:21 pm

    There are people who believe that their laws should reign supreme over American laws and our constitution. .This should be criminalized. Iam not an expert in islam.But ,the more I read,the more I discover that it is not a religion ,But a political sytem embedded in deception ,Islam needs to be called what it is an evil cult that has to be fought on all fronts for the good of man kind.

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