St. Mary’s Episcopal Cathedral in Glasgow featured a Qur’an reading denying the divinity of Christ, a core Christian tenet. Rev. Canon Gavin Ashenden objected. He is being forced the resign. The ones who staged the event ought to be resigning, but they are going strong in today’s brave, new, multicultural Britain, which is, of course, the forerunner of Sharia Britain.
An update on this story. “Queen’s chaplain quits over cathedral Koran reading which said ‘not to worship Jesus,'” by Ross Logan, Express, January 22, 2017:
ONE of the Queen’s Chaplains has resigned amid a row over a passage of the Koran read out at a Glasgow cathedral which denies Jesus is the son of God.
Reverend Canon Gavin Ashenden stepped down as one of the monarch’s 33 chaplains in order to have more freedom to “speak out on behalf of the faith”, following discussions with Buckingham Palace.
The controversy centres on an interfaith service held at St Mary’s Episcopal Cathedral over the Christmas period, where a chapter from the Islamic text was read out.
The chosen verses tell the story of Christ’s birth, but claim he was not the son of God and should not be worshipped as such.
The reading sparked widespread outrage amongst the Christian community, and Police Scotland is currently investigating a series of abusive messages directed at the cathedral on social media.
Speaking to Radio 4’s Sunday programme, Reverend Ashenden said: “The problem with what happened in Glasgow was that although it was presented as a way of building bridges and a way of educating people, it was done badly in the wrong way, in the wrong place, in the wrong context.
“There are number of members of the congregation who have written open letters complaining of the profound upset they experienced as people of the Eucharistic community who had come to worship Christ.
“So to have a reading from the Koran at that point was a fairly serious error for the Christian worshipping community.
“But to choose the reading they chose doubled the error. Of all the passages you might have read likely to cause offence that was one of the most problematic.”
He announced his resignation on his blog, ahead of an the programme’s broadcast.
“After a conversation instigated by officials at Buckingham Palace, I decided the most honourable course of action was to resign,” Reverend Ashenden wrote.
“I have held the position for the last nine years. But over the last few years people who objected to my defending the Christian faith in public wrote to both Lambeth Palace and Buckingham Palace to try to get the association ended.
“When I was confronted with these attempts to silence or defenestrate me, my reaction was to ask ‘in what way is a priest defending the faith on behalf of a monarch who was Defender of the Faith, incongruous or improper?’
“I have come to see that the situation is more complex than that.”…

somehistory says
Good for him, God and Christ are the ones to please, not imperfect humans who cannot give one eternal life.
Lucia Bartoli says
Amen! This chaplain will be rewarded where it matters. The Queen should have stepped in. Her job as I’ve been told is “defender of the faith.”
CrossWare says
Well she defends faith it just not the Christian one!
David says
Not so. She confesses an orthodox Christian belief. Protocol would likely not allow her to intercede in this case.
sencit says
The Queen is “Defender of THE faith”, meaning the Christian Protestant faith, following Henry V111 who wanted to divorce his wife. The RC church would not allow it, so he proclaimed England to be a Protestant nation and divorced his first wife, Catherine.
The Queen is a devout Christian and defends no other faith, although Charles is determined to alter that – to his shame.
john spielman says
the faith of the Church of England is no longer a Christian, it is a combination of many faiths where one can believe anything or everything/ or nothing, and Charles the future king is a disgrace
Winn says
Protocol is going to get them all killed, as they keep bowing to the Muslim Christian haters!
Itinerant says
Supposedly it is just meant to be defender of the Christian faith. Then Charles the Useful intervened;
“Prince Charles revealed in a letter leaked to the Daily Telegraph that he had strained relations with George Carey, then archbishop of Canterbury, over his attitude toward Islam. Particularly contentious was his expressed intent, on becoming king and supreme governor of the Church of England, to ditch the centuries’ old defender of the faith title and replace it with defender of faith and defender of the Divine”
I hope Charles the Useful, his panel of twelve “wise men” to advise him on Islam and his best mates of the Saudi Arabian royal family, never gets anywhere near the throne.
http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2003/11/is-prince-charles-a-convert-to-islam
Itinerant says
From the same D-Pipes article I quote from above;
Charles the Useful- “When I called myself Defender of Faith all those years ago I was trying to describe the inclusion of other people’s faiths and their freedom to worship in this country. At the same time as being Defender of the Faith, you can also be protector of other faiths. From that point of view, it was very interesting that 20 years or more after I mentioned this frequently misinterpreted phrase, the Queen, in her address to faith leaders around the time of the Jubilee, said that as far as the role of the Church of England was concerned, it is not to defend Anglicanism to the exclusion of other religions but to protect the free practice of all faiths in this country. She was conveying what I was trying to say.”
Jack Holan says
She tried. You saw what happened. She was coronated the year I was born 1952. She’s in her 90s. Charles is on his way to HELL
Kay says
That’s old. I saw she missed church recently for being ill. It was a big deal– maybe Christmas, maybe Epiphany.
Marty says
Charles “The protector of all faiths”.
Rather like the UK Football managers who just want anyone to win.
With predictable results
The previous Archbishop of Canterbury, the one with his breakfast
in his beard, stated that he wanted sharia law incorporated in the laws
of England & Wales.
This despite the fact that no Church of England laws are incorporated.
Our governing elites hate us & hate our history.
Bamaguje says
Muslims are winning and taking over… welcome to Britanistan (United Khaliphate)
David says
coronated ?
Peter Moore says
The word is “crowned”. At risk of repetition, try reading a Bible in public in any of the so-called Islamic nations.
Tony Perring says
2 Corinthians 6:15 What fellowship hath Christ with Belial.
john spielman says
yup or what does has light have in common with darkness- except the Light (of Christ ) will over come the darkness of islam!
Rob Porter says
Tony, well said. Reading of the satanic Qur’an should never be permitted in a Christian church and certainly not when denying the divinity of Christ – just a deliberate Muslim insult while mielie-mouthed imbeciles who pretend to be Christian meekly accept the insult. To hell with bloody Islam and my unbridled contempt for those who allow the Qur’an to be read in a Christian church.
A Harris USA says
Thank You Tony, the fact is that the Church of England is in need of reform. As the Roman Church, and any other Christian faith that bows to Islam.. That is the devil’s own.
See how they try to blend the two religions? If they are luke warm, they will be spit out.
This man, now has a chance to start his own church, based on the facts of Christ’s life death and resurection, and leave Islam in the gutter, from whence it came!! I am sure many will follow.. It has already happened in the Roman church, with that pope from hell. Many independent Catholic churches have spread around the USA, and dumped the Pope, follow pre-Vatican II and the Islamic loving crap they now practice.
My message, Rev. DO IT!!! Your good sheep will follow the good man.
Tara Gill says
Good on him. Who we confess before men will be acknowledged before God. If he was in a mosque it would not be acceptable for him to raise Christ above Muhammad . I can’t understand why the Qur’an needs be read in any Christian institution.
God Bless you for standing up for what many of us are losing the right to speak of. Our Lord God.
Shirley Dressler says
Religion, since the beginning of time, has been a terrible curse on humanity. Too many have died because of this and it is time to stop it all. There are far too many branches of pseudo religions out there. I was brought up a Catholic as a child through no fault of my own. Then I saw the problem as an adult and decided to simply believe in the Creator of Heaven and Earth and all things on it. By that I am certain I have the right one to believe. Let us all acknowledge this creed and begin to simply believe in this unknown Entity and start to love one another as our Creator loves each one of us. The Universe is vast with trillions of stars and other planets and inhabitants of which we know nothing of and is way beyond our understanding which we will never know nor have an answer to any of this. One creed I believe in is to love one another as we were created to do and that should put an end to all “religions.” once and for all!
Terry says
IF YOU DON’T LIKE RELIGION/RELIGIONS. THAT IS FINE.
BUT MANY HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF PEOPLE HAVE FOUND STRENGTH IN THEIR RELIGION.
Yes, in most religions, there are fanatics. Islam is the most fanatical.
However, since mankind (or should I say human kind or people?-don’t want to be sexist, right?) people have ALWAYS looked for a HIGHER BEING.
You don’t like religion? Don’t practice any. Just don’t tell others what to do or not do, as long as it does not interfere with yoru life.
gravenimage says
The idea that Judaism and Christianity are no different from the violence and oppression of Islam is just witless false moral equivalence.
You left Catholicism, which is fine–do you believe you would have been allowed to leave Islam, which has the death penalty for apostates?
Lia Wissing says
Reverend Canon Ashenden, I am reminded of the late Cardinal Wolseley, who lamented on his deathbed: “If only I had served my God as I have served my king …’ Congratulations on doing the better thing. I wish you God’s lavish blessing.
john spielman says
agree 1000%
Terry says
I would guess that Charles ( from other JW posts about his liking of Islam) might have had a good deal with him being asked to resign. (Rather than be fired-guess looks better on a resume).
Good luck to him.
And I am not a Christian, and do not believe in the divinity of Jesus Christ, but on the occasions that I have gone to Catholic and Protestant churches, I do not criticize their faith, or discuss anything else. (Last two times were, unfortunately, for funerals of good friends). I just followed along, with the services.
I believe in what I beleive in, and I feel everyone else should beleive (or not beleive) what they want. As Jefferson sid, (paraphrasing)- why should it bother me if my neighbor has one G-d; twenty G-ds or none?
JawsV says
It should bother you if one supposed God issues calls in his “holy” book to subjugate and kill you. That’s Allah in the Koran. Allah should bother you greatly.
Terry says
Perhaps I should have been a little clearer. I don’t want other religions to bother me. Since Islam does bother others, and would bother me- them (they?) I would liek to see neutralized.
Carolyne says
While I agree with Terry for the most part, it seems that this particular God of Islam, Allah, would certainly like to bother me a lot. His alter ego Mohammed made sure his followers understood that killing infidels was pleasing to his god and they believe that to this day. I have been to Catholic, Protestant and Jewish services. I do not believe, but I certainly do not disrupt. I sit there quietly and listen to the service and certainly I have no desire to kill them. My presence also would be at weddings or funerals. If these rituals give comfort to those who do believe, who am I to want to deprive them of it. Islam, however, is not content to live and let live. They wish to live and let die. To host a Mullah who is openly denying the very basis of Christianity at a Christian Church and to defend him for doing so I inexplicable.
The Reverend Mr. Ashenden is just another victim of this murderous group.
JIMJFOX says
Well said.
blitz2b says
Terry do you not find it odd that no one on the planet bothers with what belief system the other professes other than the religion of Islam and it’s adherents?
Only a Muslim will think you the lesser because of the “god” you pray to…. How does that not bother you I’m surprised?
Terry says
It does bother me. (I also used to be bothered by a semi wacko who felt that ONLY HIS VERSION OF CHRISTIANITY WAS GOOD, AND ONLY THOSE IN HIS CHURCH COULD GO TO HEAVEN.
Fortunately, he is a small minority.
And, my meaning is, I don’t bother anyone in their worship or non worship, and want the same.
gravenimage says
Islam targets Agnostics and Atheists just as it does Jews and Christians, Terry.
You forgot the rest of what Jefferson had to say–“…unless they pick my pocket or break my leg”. Islam does both.
Terry says
Graven–I never saw that last part of Jefferson’s statement on that. (And I have seen it many times, on sites other than JW, besides here).
gravenimage says
UK: Queen’s chaplain who objected to Qur’an reading in cathedral forced to resign
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Appalling–I was so heartened by the words of Rev. Canon Ashenden.
I haven’t been able to find an email contact for him, but for those of you here with Twitter accounts, you can voice your support for him on his Twitter feed:
https://twitter.com/gavinashenden?lang=en
ECAW says
You can contact him here graven:
https://ashenden.org/
gravenimage says
Thank you, ECAW.
will Rodgers says
If it weren’t for us electing President Trump we may be experiencing the same thing here. It all starts with the PC police saying you can’t say anything against the muslims. This is their way of subverting Christianity which is the foundation of America. Don’r let it happen here. Every time muslims ask for a seat at the table deny them. Once they rule the table they will surely deny you. It is not a religious war. Islam is a political and military Theocracy that wants to impose its will on US they just hide it under the guise of a legitimate religion which they are NOT.
Jack Holan says
There is one outstanding speech just delivered by Geert Wilders reported on Gatestone. Read it’s about the cost and vigilence of Freedom
You would think Charles who didn’t keep his vows should control the a Queen from free speech or a priest from giving a theological opinion about what is conducted in the Church that in theory is under the control of the Crown in the UK By now I’m sure Charles has rewritten himself back into the succession that he was taken out of by the Queen over 2 decades ago since he proved time after time he can’t manage his own affairs let alone a Kingdom.
Mac-101 says
G-d bless this Christian Chaplain. There will be many more serious choices to be made if the Globalist gain total control and Satan’s Beast makes everyone renounce Jesus Christ as Lord and Savoir and accept the Mark of the Beast or are beheaded
.
Our Black, Brown and Yellow Christian Brothers and Sisters in Christ are facing this NOW at the hands of the Religion of Peace. Make sure you include the persecuted Church in your prayers!
Sanford Pass says
The Truth set him free to look for another job.
Jesus, peace be upon him, gave the Lord’s Prayer as how to pray.
He did not mention himself once in it.
Those who worship Jesus, peace be upon him, and see him as God or His son, follow not his teachings, but those of Paul and others.
Shari’a is not scary, although many try to make it so.
It means ‘pathway to the water.’
Means Laws of God.
Ten Commandments.
Lord’s Prayer
Golden Rule
All Shari’a too.
And if your right hand offends you, cut it off; if your right eye offends you, pluck it out. Better to enter Heaven maimed or halt then enter hell with a whole body. Sounds like Shari’a to me. Jesus, peace be upon him, said it.
It is all one story, not a competition.
All about Monotheism being instilled into humanity.
Kepha says
Sorry, Sanford, Jesus did claim divinity, and made claims for his person which would make no sense were he not God Incarnate. Properly, you do not say “Peace be on him” to respect Jesus Christ. Such a phrase is used only of the dead, and Jesus rose from the grave on the Third Day after his crucifixion (sorry, but I stick with the Christian, Rabbinic, and Pagan Roman sources that Jesus was actually crucified, against the Qur’an, which was pulled out of a hat some six centuries after the event).
And there were certain of the Scribes sitting there, and [a]reasoning in their hearts, Why doth this man speak such blasphemies? who can forgive sins, but God only?
And immediately, when Jesus perceived in his spirit, that thus they reasoned with themselves, he said unto them, Why reason ye these things in your hearts?
Whether is it easier to say to the sick of the palsy, Thy sins are forgiven thee? or to say, Arise, take up thy bed, and walk?
But that ye may know, that the Son of man hath authority in earth to forgive sins, he said unto the sick of the palsy,
I say unto thee, Arise, and take up thy bed, and get thee hence into thine own house.[and the man walked]–Mark 2:6-11. I(Geneva Bible)
It is seldom appreciated that by every tenet of both Judaism and Christianity, if Jesus were not God Incarnate, the scribes would have been right.
“Before Abraham was, I AM” (John 8:58–words of Jesus himself, echoing what YHWH tells Moses from out of the burning bush).
And, given that your own QUr’an uses them as sources, the Gospel of the Infancy, with their tales of the child Jesus speaking from the cradle and making clay birds on the Sabbath and giving them life, these admittedly apocryphal books were written to support the deity of Christ, even though they were recognized as non-Apostolic and uninspired.
Sorry, but playing Paul off against Jesus went out in the 1940’s.
You. Mr. Pass, need to ask Jesus’ peace on you, rather than arrogantly wishing yours on him, for in his coming, God has truly visited and redeemed his people (that’s from Zacharias, the father of John the Baptist, in the song he sang in Luke 1).
Johli Baptist says
Isa akbar! Jesus is Lord of lords and King of kings. Ignorant people do not understand what Jesus is teaching in John’s Gospel, chapter eight.
gravenimage says
“Isa” is *not* Jesus. The purpose of the Muslim “Jesus” is to slaughter Christians in the last days.
blitz2b says
Well said Kepha… Couldn’t have put it any better….
Sanford, how would you wish your ” peace” upon the Prince of Peace…. It’s like shining a little candle in front of the sun…
Islam is the exact opposite of peace, that is why there is absolutely no peace in any nation dominated Muslims… Strife, discord, wars, and disharmony is the order of the day…. That is why Muslims are leaving their Islamic hell holes are flocking in droves outside the gates of former Christian/secular nations…. That in itself should speak volumes of the state of affairs of the house of Islam.
If you are a convert to this cult of hate and are defending it then you seriously need to search your conscience and rethink Islam while investigating it’s absurd claims…
Mohammed nor Islam can do nothing for your eternal soul, you need God himself to wash you clean, and that is only possible through the incarnate son Jesus, who is Lord of heavens and ask of creation.
I wish you well
Greyhound Fancier says
You’d better document that there is a Golden Rule in the sharia. The sharia is a distortion of God’s laws and commandments to enthrone man’s worst behaviors are religious duties.
Especially for women, YES, the sharia is scary…I don’t want to be beaten by my husband with no consequences to him, don’t want my word to be worth less than a man’s, don’t want to be a “tilth” to be plowed…
Islam is like the “telephone game”, applied to the Bible. In “the telephone game” one person starts with the correct story and passes it to the second person. The second person passes the story to the third person, and so on. By the time the story is told by the tenth or twelfth person, it bears little resemblance to the original, true version. Islam is like that because it was related to the illiterate Mohammed by persons who did not have first hand knowledge (because they held heretical views to start with).
gravenimage says
I agree–but these stories are not just garbled or distorted–in every case, they are ugly and vicious, unlike the originals.
balafama says
i would rather worship JESUS as GOD than follow that pedophile,rapist ,war lord ,armed robber ,assassin who made his father’s personal god allah, lord over arabia and all other gullible folks
Daniel says
Islam is satanic, a man made up a story for sex, bastardized paganism. So ridiculous, to think God is making deals ( 72 virgins, having sex with girls (9 years old), having sexual orgies (13 wives), killing people, betraying people ( the Jews who were killed after Mohammed was nourished back to health by these very Sam Edelman Jews , only to be beheaded. Authorizing lying ( muslisms can lie to unbelievers, rape kill unbelievers women! And that is the great clue, the total slavery and treatment of women! There are endless rapes, assaults beatings, it’s only a matter of time….
It will be met on the battlefield , and that’s coming, there will be no more games.
Kay says
Sanford Pass, you are creepy and wrong.
Jesus did not advocate police and courts maiming people.
Jesus healed.
In the passage you twist, He talks about the seriousness of sin and one’s own responsibility to repent and live cleanly.
If you have the Lord’s Prayer and the Golden Rule, then you would never defend sharia.
Your lies don’t fool anyone here.
Mark Swan says
Reply to: What Sanford Pass says January 22, 2017 at 7:14 pm
Your Allah is Baal, which is Satan, He Quotes scripture—Christ heard him
quote scripture, Christ being the author of all scripture, defeated Satan with it,
that battle is recorded. (Matthew 4:1-11)
Always remember the Apostle Paul’s magnificent one-verse description of true Christianity: “I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ lives in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me” (Galatians 2:20, KJV).
Before you accept the teachings of some “prophet” or “apostle,” ask yourself: “Am I being influenced by him to have the true Christ of the Bible live His life within me through the Holy Spirit? Or, is something missing?”
Kay says
Thanks Mark
Mark Swan says
Thank You Kay
Kay says
Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life; he who believes in Me will live even if he dies,
Achmed says
What abject blasphemy .. and I say that from a Buddhist perspective. If the United States of America had blasphemy laws, similar to pakky land … however, aimed at the faith of the founding fathers … for such blasphemy, you would receive the death penalty.
Oh, if only it was so.
Just what one would expect from the vilest of all creatures (mohammedans).
Kay says
Someone here at JW recently wrote a beautiful post about how love and freedom are messy or complicated or not easy. Not sure who but it was quite lovely–
the point is that Jesus wants us to choose to love Him.
He doesn’t force us or frighten us into it.
There is always choice and with that choice, dignity.
There is also the word “blasphemy” for Christians but as we don’t often talk about it, the meaning may have been forgotten with all the Mohammeden loud ugliness and fearsome punishment and lies. God is Someone we honor and love, and by grace with our lives and our words. That relationship of love doesn’t have room for blasphemy (and should it happen, the relationship is in need of repair).
Mark Swan says
I like what you wrote Kay
Kay says
Thanks again Mark.
And though a man might prevail against one who is alone, two will withstand him. A threefold cord is not quickly broken.
Mark Swan says
Yes indeed—You got it right.
gravenimage says
🙂
Jack Holan says
There is just One Major Problem with your Thesis. I’m sure Robert Spencer will back me up. When you speak of the universalist nature of the Golden Rule in monotheism, Islam honors the Golden Rule only amongst Muslims and specifically Men. Go to the Temple Mount where the 1st and 2nd Jewish Temples existed 1300 years before the Mosque Dome of the Rock was purposefully built over it. As a Jew if I enter the Temple Mount and audibly recite a prayer or behave as if I am doing so a riot will ensue by Muslim Keepers of the Faith. The Church in Constantinople that has been turned into a Mosque is all purposeful the Saudi Plan to over populate the USA & EUROPE with Mosques is a fundamental plan.
Kay says
Thanks Jack.
Jack Holan says
You’re very welcome Kay I’m tired of people misrepresenting the Judeo-Christian liturgy and try to then say it’s the same as Islam. They are Polar Opposites a myth perpetrated by Leftists and Islamists through like minded Media over unsuspecting people not well versed in either Christianity or Judaism there own Religion and zero knowledge about Islam. This makes them sitting ducks for slick propaganda.
gravenimage says
+1
No Fear says
For a muslim, the only way to experience God is to read the crap that Mohammed wrote. Yet Mohammed was a killer, murderer, torturer, pedo, encourager of rape, thief, military commander. Why would ANYONE believe the garbage emitted from the filthy mouth of gangster Mohammed?
Kenin says
Sanford, Ye are of your father the devil (Satan), and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it (John 8:44).
And Sanford, Satan is not in your upper nose like Muhammad taught (Sahih al-Bukhari 3295).
And the LORD said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it (Job 1:7).
FYI says
@Sanford pass/Ibrahim
Sharia law actually violates God’s Commandments.Nice try at taqqiya on your part.
Islamic apologists always-always – twist the truth but then the islamic mind is not able to understand the error of “allah” or the problem with mahomet’s life(a life dedicated to violating ALL of God’s commandments).So they use those famous tricks to deceive people,even STEALING a phrase from the Gospel-“The Truth shall set you free”[John 8:32} which of course you use here.As you surely know by now the quran is OK with murder, stealing and lying(all sins against the True God but not to “allah” of course).
But since islam was founded by the father of lies that is not so surprising is it?
“They will perish because they did not welcome and love the Truth enough to be saved.And so God sends the power of error to work in them so that they believe what is false”
2 Thessalonians 2 v10 -11
“For the message of Christ’s death on the cross is nonsense to those who are being lost”
I Corinthians I v 18
As all moslems will be judged by Jesus Christ it is amusing that you use the oft-stolen phrase “the Truth will set you free” because moslems don’t know the Truth,and blindly follow a false caricature of the True God which they call “allah”.
Since Jesus is the Judge ,imagine how awkward it must have been for the antiChristian,antiJewish,false prophet of islam (..he famously cursed them..)to die…and come before Jesus Christ(a Jew).
Do you really think a mass-murdering, Christ-hating and Jew-hating “prophet” could fool God and somehow miraculously gain admission to Heaven?Of course not.
All moslems will stand before Jesus Christ and be judged by Him:How awkward especially it will be for all those converts to islam!
gravenimage says
Loathsome Taqiyya artist “Sanford Pass” wrote:
The Truth set him free to look for another job.
Jesus, peace be upon him, gave the Lord’s Prayer as how to pray.
He did not mention himself once in it.
Those who worship Jesus, peace be upon him, and see him as God or His son, follow not his teachings, but those of Paul and others.
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“Peace be upon him”–what “Sanford Pass” is referring to here is not Jesus, but the vicious Muslim “prophet Isa”, whose purpose in the last days is to *mass murder Christians*.
More:
Shari’a is not scary, although many try to make it so.
It means ‘pathway to the water.’
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Not really–it is only linguistically derived from this. Brutal Shari’ah law is only “not scary” if one is not an Infidel, a woman, a member of a minority, any sort of “moderate”, or a decent human being. If this is the case, then a Muslim man may use the horror of Shari’ah law to run roughshod over others–“marrying” children, raping Infidel women, enslaving unbelievers, and butchering Kuffar.
More:
Means Laws of God.
Ten Commandments.
Lord’s Prayer
Golden Rule
All Shari’a too.
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What *absolute crap*. The Ten Commandments don’t tell its adherents to treat others as second class citizens, and there is *no* Golden Rule in Islam.
More:
And if your right hand offends you, cut it off; if your right eye offends you, pluck it out. Better to enter Heaven maimed or halt then enter hell with a whole body. Sounds like Shari’a to me. Jesus, peace be upon him, said it.
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*Bullsh*t*. What Shari’ah tells Muslims to do is to lop off the hands *of others*–and to murder them–if they “offend” Mohammadans.
Yet more:
It is all one story, not a competition.
All about Monotheism being instilled into humanity.
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This is not “one story”–for one thing, Islam teaches that Christianity is not monotheistic, and that all Jews are to be slaughtered by Muslims. Islam tells its followers to oppress and murder other monotheists, as well as other unbelievers.
What makes “Sanford Pass” think that we don’t know this about Islam?
Jack HOLAN says
It seems a little more clear now. The Queen, elderly, trying to publicly explain And ask for forgiveness from her People for allowing the Dark Forces of Evil threaten the realm and before she can explain she is whisked off the BBBC from her Christmas Wishes to the Kingdom. In context Prince Charles had been announcing a couple of times during the preceding two weeks the marvels of Islam. The following the removal of the Queen, the Priest inviting Muslims to break bread in “his” Church in Glasgow with the ensuing intra-faith battle. There is no such fight occurring within Islam, because they have their eye on the ball and know their goal.
Greyhound Fancier says
I disagree – the main issue within Islam is “who is truly a Muslim?”. The Mohammedans try to unite to keep on the same page and cooperate, but it isn’t in them.
There is constant strife in Islam – which I believe will help bring its downfall – because any Muslim who differs from another Muslim is suspect. Throw in the permission to act to “defend Islam” by about any Muslim, you’ve got the permanent state of violence and intrigue found in places like Pakistan.
myworld2 says
I hope Pres Trump sees this or hears it …there is no reason for one faith to be “advertising in another place of worship – will bring nothing but trouble ….. ‘course, that is why it was done ….EXPECT MORE …
Terry says
What has Pres. Trump to do with this?
And, as far as I know, he does not say who could or could not go to any church-especially in a foreign country.
Jack Holan says
You would think Charles who didn’t keep his vows should control the a Queen from free speech or a priest from giving a theological opinion about what is conducted in the Church that in theory is under the control of the Crown in the UK By now I’m sure Charles has rewritten himself back into the succession that he was taken out of by the Queen over 2 decades ago since he proved time after time he can’t manage his own affairs let alone a Kingdom.
Ecosse1314 says
Charles (idiot thst he is) was never written out of the succession. He is and was heir to the throne….sadly.
Baucent says
Good on him, for not bowing or compromising. May he continue to publicly defend the Christian faith. The Anglican church has too many faithless or cowardly clerics. Rev Ashenden is a breath of fresh air.
Keith Gilbert says
The current ‘church’ can save no one, not even itself…who would want to associate (fellowship) with such as these?
Barry Donnelly says
God Bless Rev. Canon Gavin Ashenden for his Faithfulness to The Gospel of Jesus Christ and The Holy Trinity : What a Great Example and Inspiration he is to All Christians !!!
Peggy says
There is only one way to deal with this and that is to boycott any church which does this sort of thing or praise Islam.
If there are no people to fill the pews, there won’t be a need to have services there. They can choose to give the church away if they wish but I don’t think it would happen.
People should write to Bishops etc and say openly that they will not be attending the church for as long as that particular priest is there and why.
Unless people revolt nothing will change. No use just whining about it. Do something.
stan lee says
Another case of a government frightened by “Political Correctness.” The UK is sick with the PC fever.
What do you think would come of Reverend Ashenden’s request to read passages of the Christian bible in a UK Mosque?
The Muslims would be arguing that the good Christian Reverend would be violating Muslim doctrine (of some type) by bringing his Christian self to the Mosque to read a passage from his bible.
The man is “The Queen’s Chaplain,” does that count for nothing anymore?
Isn’t the Queen a “defender” of the faith, meaning Church of England?…..Or are the Brits too bashful to defend the Church of England anymore?
ElderlyZionist says
“I have come to see that the situation is more complex than that.”…
That’s too bad. Not surprising. But very bad.
Ron Blower says
I noticed that, too. Hopefully, he meant the Political, Social, et al ramifications, rather than the Spiritual.
SoliDeoGloria says
I take my hat off to this man; his uncompromising stand on what is a pillar of the very faith we profess as Christians finds favour where it counts, in Heaven’s Court.
Thank you for your example, Rev Ashenden; may the Lord encourage you as only He can and confirm his calling on your life, your ministry and your example.
balafama says
where do these folks draw the line , is it when they are being beheaded ? there daughters have being raped , their culture demeaned ,their young ones taught to hate them, their churches desecrated with false teachings, yet they trudge down this road . but for the brits standing up against this, i would say they deserve every bit of what they have coming .they have literally spit on their ancestors grave and on their heritage . they even got the police involved to investigate threats aka dissenting views .
what i dont understand is how these people justify their actions to themselves .
europe was pagan and it seems they are salivating to get back to their pagan roots.
Achmed says
Pagan is FAR preferable to the worship of satan .. mohammedanism.
gravenimage says
Very true.
LR says
I am not particularly religious…
But every time I read a story such as this, I am just astounded and disgusted with what is happening in Britain in regards to these issues.
How the h*ll can it be ‘bad’ for a Chaplain to speak up about his faith?…I mean geeeeez…With all the persecution against Christians going on in Muslim dominated countries, one would think he would have more support.
Is this PC?, just being plain stupid, or both.
Lawrence says
He wasn’t forced to resign, he chose to resign. Check his website/blog for the details or listen to the talk he gave on the BBC about it. He felt he had no choice but to resign, in light of his Church’s dhimmitude. Not the same thing as being forced to resign.
Kay says
Yes but I think you’re splitting hairs.
He wouldn’t have been able to do his job with integrity. He chose integrity and faithfulness.
gravenimage says
I agree with Kay.
bobm says
you see; the crown is corrupt..
Jean-Francois Morf says
Please do google, in pictures: caesar comet coin.
You see the coin: face side is Caesar Augustus.
So Christ said: give back to Caesar what belongs to Caesar.
On the other side of the coin, Jesus Christ saw the comet C/-43K1.
The biggest historical comet that all the earth saw before Jesus Christ birth.
But it is not written: divus Jesus, it is written: divus Julius!
Jesus Christ is God, but Julius Caesar is NOT God.
So Jesus Christ said: and give back to God what belongs to God.
You understand now? Any doubt? Now click on:
http://www.linceul-turin.com/science-saint-suaire-linceul-turin/photos/3D.html
You see that Christ is 77 years old, not 40, not 33: Christ is born in year -43.
The comet C/-43K1 made a total eclipse on january 6 just before midnight.
Thanks this eclipse, the 3 persian doctors found Maria and Joseph, panicked in shit.
Christ is born january 7 just after midnight, the 3 wise doctors helped Maria.
Then a small part of the comet exploded just over Jesus Christ.
Then the crowd came and saw the new king Jesus Christ.
Any doubt? Herodes is born in -73, and dead in -4: Jesus Christ birth, John baptist death.
After Julius Caesar was killed in -44, Herodes killed all his male children.
Then 3 persian doctors came in -44 and asked Herodes: where is your new born son?
Salome 1 was Herodes sister, Salome 2 was Herodes daughter, he fucked both.
Salome asked Herodes for the head of John the baptist, this before Herodes death in -4.
Are you now convinced that Christ is born in -43, when Herodes was 30 old?
Anne Smith says
I heard the Reverend Ashenden on the BBC yesterday morning and found him extremely impressive. He spoke well. Thank goodness someone is speaking out against the evil that is Islam.
Poor old Prince Charles is extremely thick and like a cushion bears the influence of the last person to sit on him. He is also very stubborn, and it is quite sad because he does mean well. He does seem to be inordinately impressed by Muslims, as was his late wife Diana.
ECAW says
All true, unfortunately.
Angemon says
Yes, as if the person who did the reading did it on purpose or something… Anyway, a shame he had to resign his position, but kudos to him for following his beliefs and following the path of most resistance in order to speak for his faith.
Joshua Lee says
Is God running His church or men? We cannot try to be politically or religiously correct when the things we do are not in line with His will and His word. Our aim is to please God especially when it comes to our service in the church. When we downgrade Jesus to just a mere man and not God himself, then it becomes a very serious abomination in God’s sight as we are rejecting Jesus Christ and His accomplished work for mankind. It is then better to leave this church as God Himself will definitely not be in there. I was also very very disappointed when I saw religious leaders of other faith were invited to pray and say some words at the pulpit at the Washington Cathedral just after President Trump inauguration. President Trump and his vice President were there. Why invite people of other faith to come when their god is NOT the same as ours who is the True Powerful Living God and Creator? Doesn’t the church leaders recognise that? If they don’t it is better for them to resign otherwise the patience of God has its limit. It is all in His words (Bible) and also God will speak to you when you seek Him. Rev Gavin, you did the right thing and God will see you through. God will guide and help you to fulfill His special plan for your life. Look to Him, He is not only your Saviour but everything!
John A. Marre says
The current administration of GB is actively seeking to eliminate Christianity and to replace it with a violent death cult. After this Queen is no longer on the throne, will GB embrace Islam openly?
sencit says
Good grief! NO!
Ecosse1314 says
What on earth does the death of Elizabeth have on anything. She is a mere figurehead.Nothing more.
gravenimage says
She *is* an important figure in Britain–and around the world. Unfortunately, here heir is an Islamophilic twit. That does matter.
Mark A says
What an absolute disgrace. I am disgusted by the Royal family’s actions here.
The Queen is supposed to be the “Defender of the [Anglican] Faith.” It’s one of her official titles.
It seems like she’s doing everything she can to undermine it.
mortimer says
I wouldn’t think the Queen would approve of the Koran in church either. Some high-level political stuff is going down which Canon Ashenden has hinted at. (I personally think it smells.)
Islamic prayer curses Christians. That is definitely NOT welcome in a Christian church.
mortimer says
Canon Gavin Ashenden clearly sees that having readings in church that the deny the Holy Trinity contradict and spit on the basis of Christian theology.
Shame on the leaders of the Episcopalian Church of Scotland. They’re totally daft. Shake your heads.
Ayinde says
Hope the Queen and her officials are not making the greatest mistakes of their lives. They had better not continually play with fire or snake.
Shame on the Queen .
Truebrit says
If this is true the holy books of all religions should now be read in mosques