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US Catholic bishops hold “dialogue” with Hamas-linked group to engage in “advocacy in support of Muslim community”

Jan 11, 2017 1:20 pm By Robert Spencer

“Cardinal Blase J. Cupich of Chicago… said that as part of the dialogue’s launch last February, Bishop Robert W. McElroy of San Diego held a public discussion with Sayyid M. Syeed, national director of the Islamic Society of North America’s Office for Interfaith and Community Alliances.”

The Islamic Society of North America: “ISNA leaders view Islam as being superior to all other faiths and destined to replace them. Taha J. Alwani, a leading official of the Fiqh Council of North America, which is run under ISNA, writes: ‘In considering the earth as an arena for Islam, Allah has promised its inheritance to His righteous people, and He has promised that Islam will prevail over other religions.’…In July 2008, ISNA’s lawyers conceded that their organization, through its affiliate NAIT, had given financial support to Hamas leader Mousa Abu Marzook. Their defense was that documentary evidence of those ties dated back to the late 1980s and early 1990s, before the U.S. government had officially designated Hamas as a terrorist organization.”

“Cirelli cited statistics documenting a higher number of anti-Muslim activities…”

Anti-Jewish hate crimes are two times more common than anti-Muslim hate crimes. What is the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops doing to combat anti-Jewish activities? Why, nothing. Nothing at all.

“Cirelli cited statistics documenting a higher number of anti-Muslim activities nationwide as well as a recent study by The Bridge Initiative, a Georgetown University research project on Islamophobia, showing that Catholics who regularly obtained information from Catholic media were more likely to unfavorably view Muslims than those who did not.”

The Bridge Initiative is part of Georgetown University’s Saudi-funded Prince Alwaleed bin Talal Center for Muslim-Christian Understanding (ACMCU). It is run by Nathan Lean, the gutter thug who has several times published on Twitter what he thinks is my home address, in an obvious attempt to alert jihad murderers to my whereabouts and/or intimidate me into silence. Its study was designed to defame those who tell the truth about the nature and magnitude of the jihad threat, and strong-arm Catholic bookstores into not carrying books by me and others who enunciate these unwelcome truths.

So it looks as if the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops is throwing in completely with Hamas- and Saudi-linked groups that are determined above all to clear away all obstacles to the advancing jihad.

The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops is a disgrace to Catholicism, to Christianity, and to humanity.

“Leave them; they are blind guides. And if a blind man leads a blind man, both will fall into a pit.” (Matthew 15:14)

“Catholic-Muslim dialogue opens to support American Muslims,” by James Martone, Catholic News Service, January 10, 2017 (thanks to M.):

WASHINGTON, D.C. – An emerging Catholic dialogue with Muslims aims to show public support for Islamic American communities.

The dialogue stems from concerns expressed by U.S. bishops in the wake of “a serious uptick in violence against American Muslims … to make sure that they are sensitive to what is going on in the (Muslim) communities,” said Anthony Cirelli, associate director of the Secretariat for Ecumenical and Interreligious Affairs at the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops.

The dialogue, underway since last February, will build on three already existing regional Catholic-Muslim dialogues, also overseen by the secretariat. Those gatherings have involved Muslim and Christian scholars and religious leaders and have focused largely on academic discussions and comparisons of their respective religious texts, Cirelli said.

The regional dialogues – mid-Atlantic, Midwest and West Coast – have been effective in creating a better understanding among Muslim and Catholic leaders on a theological level, Cirelli explained.

The national dialogue also will help Muslim leaders to better advocate for current concerns, “especially with the incoming (U.S.) administration,” said Cirelli, referring to calls by President-elect Donald J. Trump and others to monitor American Muslims and limit entry of Muslim visitors from abroad.

“While our meetings will still have as a central component the all-important theological conversation, right now there is an urgency to engage more in a kind of advocacy and policy in support of the Muslim community,” Cirelli told Catholic News Service.

Cirelli cited statistics documenting a higher number of anti-Muslim activities nationwide as well as a recent study by The Bridge Initiative, a Georgetown University research project on Islamophobia, showing that Catholics who regularly obtained information from Catholic media were more likely to unfavorably view Muslims than those who did not.

“The bishops’ priority at the moment is to listen to (Muslims’) concerns, their fears, their needs … and so discern how we as Catholics can help them achieve their goals of full participation in their communities,” Cirelli said.

He said Muslim counterparts to the dialogue were still being identified.

“At this point in our nation’s history, we, the bishops, are mainly concerned with listening to and, when appropriate, coming to stand with our Muslim colleagues in their own difficult work of addressing the fears of ordinary Americans with respect to Muslims as well as their work in trying to change the negative narrative surrounding Muslims in our popular media,” Cirelli said.

The creation of the dialogue was motivated by the call of “Nostra Aetate,” the Second Vatican Council’s declaration on the relations with non-Christian religions.

“As the national conversation around Islam grows increasingly fraught, coarse and driven by fear and often willful misinformation, the Catholic Church must help to model real dialogue and goodwill,” Bishop Mitchell T. Rozanski of Springfield, Massachusetts, chairman of the bishops’ Committee on Ecumenical and Interreligious Affairs, said at the time the dialogue started in February.

Cardinal Blase J. Cupich of Chicago was designated as the dialogue’s Catholic chairman and assumed the position Jan. 1, Cirelli said.

He said that as part of the dialogue’s launch last February, Bishop Robert W. McElroy of San Diego held a public discussion with Sayyid M. Syeed, national director of the Islamic Society of North America’s Office for Interfaith and Community Alliances.

During the widely publicized event at the University of San Diego’s Joan B. Kroc Institute for Peace and Justice, Bishop McElroy challenged U.S. Catholics to take an active role in combating “the scourge of anti-Islamic prejudice.”…

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  1. Kay says

    Jan 11, 2017 at 1:42 pm

    Let us pray that in all dialogs, even those where Mohammeden intent is to damage Christianity and its followers, that the light of Christ will shine through and that Mohammedens will be converted to the true God.

    I have read that many Muslim in the ME are now converting.

    Our enemies are powerful but our God is greater.

    • Wellington says

      Jan 11, 2017 at 2:00 pm

      As I have written before here, Kay, I wish all Muslims would convert to Christianity. The world would be infinitely better off if this were to occur, though a high theory hypothetical here if ever there were one, but I rather doubt that the way much of the present Catholic hierarchy (and other misguided Christians) are going about things with their dopey inter-faith dialogue approach will do anything but embolden Muslims to remain Muslim and seek that eventual conquest of all the earth which their wretched, ungracious, violence-prone, intolerant and control-freak religion demands of them.

      • miriamrove says

        Jan 11, 2017 at 2:18 pm

        That exactly the result of these dialogues. The more dialogue, the more they get emboldened. PS:W: as you know one of their vile Ayatollahs died the other day. Million of Iranians came out under the guise of the funeral, only to turn the table around and shout anti government slogans!!! M

      • gravenimage says

        Jan 11, 2017 at 4:02 pm

        True, Wellington and miriam. If these Catholics were really reaching out to Muslims hoping to share their faith with them, it might be different.

        • Kay says

          Jan 11, 2017 at 5:03 pm

          Let’s hope it becomes different and that the bishops will be bold enough to
          preach Christ crucified (died and resurrected).

        • Wellington says

          Jan 11, 2017 at 5:40 pm

          They won’t, Kay. Not even a close call here. Said Catholic hierarchy will do and say nothing to offend Muslims. You can bet your last dollar they won’t mention (assuming these rubes even know this) that in Islamic theology Jesus is going to come back at the end of the world and throw all Christians into Hell for deifying him. The Christian belief that Jesus was crucified (which itself is denied in Sura 4:157-158) won’t be brought up by these fools either, let alone the “Resurrection part.” Count on it.

          No, rather it will be the kumbaya, can’t-we-all-just-get-along rot, we-have-so-much-in-common nonsense and lie, coupled with a general respect for Islam that is not deserved, indeed is actually contrary, directly contrary, to fundamental Christian belief. I think it’s worse than you realize, Kay. I say this respectfully but firmly.

        • gravenimage says

          Jan 11, 2017 at 5:43 pm

          I wish it were otherwise, Kay–but as Wellington notes, it won’t be–not with these idiots, certainly.

        • Kay says

          Jan 11, 2017 at 5:58 pm

          @ Wellington and Gravenimage–

          I think you’re right. And yet I must hope and pray,
          for our leaders and the Body now and for the remnant to come. May we be faithful.

        • Wellington says

          Jan 11, 2017 at 6:37 pm

          Well, Kay, I do admire your capacity for hope and prayer. It exceeds mine (actually completely so since I am an agnostic and think God most likely a legend, though this has never stopped me from looking upon Christianity as a far superior religion to the spiritual fascism which is Islam) but, for humanity’s sake, I dearly hope I am in the wrong and you are on to something. Here, I think, we may have common ground.

      • Peter11937 says

        Jan 12, 2017 at 10:47 pm

        Yes, Mohammadens want to KILL us. Why is the Cardinal wasting his breath?

    • Bill says

      Jan 11, 2017 at 2:44 pm

      Kay, that is a good prayer, but I do not think that is the result that the Church leaders are seeking.

      • Kay says

        Jan 11, 2017 at 4:59 pm

        Yeah, it didn’t sound like it.
        But we have the words of life.
        May we speak them.

    • Mong says

      Jan 11, 2017 at 3:39 pm

      Please don’t say our god is greater. Criticise the Muslims by all means. Point out that they’re delusional, misguided, violent, nihilistic, sadistic, evil, primitive, viscous, backward etc. but please don’t say our god is greater.

      • Kay says

        Jan 11, 2017 at 4:50 pm

        God is greater than evil.

      • Kathy Brown, Esq. says

        Jan 11, 2017 at 9:37 pm

        Why in the world wouldn’t we say ‘Our God is greater’? Since their god is Satan?

        I don’t understand your comment.

    • Rob says

      Jan 11, 2017 at 4:36 pm

      “…I have read that many Muslim in the ME are now converting….”

      Wherever you read this, you’d better check the source.

      Any Muslim in the Middle East who apostatises, is marked for an unpleasant death, just as non-Christians were burned alive during the Dark Ages, so stories like this are wishful-thinking nonsense.

      • Kay says

        Jan 11, 2017 at 4:52 pm

        I read it on TROP this time.

    • Kay says

      Jan 12, 2017 at 2:12 am

      This issue has sat on my heart all day long and I now have a friendly challenge/invitation to any Christian who is willing. I’m sure this must seem like tilting at windmills, yet the Catholic Church speaks of the importance of the laity. Then let us take our part.

      We can contact these bishops and urge them to be faithful to Christ.
      > that the one thing they have to give Muslims that they really cannot get elsewhere is the Truth of Christ. No matter what is expressed verbally, the Muslim’s biggest need is for Christ. Will the bishops hear that under the words spoken?
      > that they speak the Truth of Christ to Muslims who really may never have had a chance to hear it (and if they haven’t heard how can they believe?)
      > that they remember the call on Christians is to make disciples of Christ (and not of any political ideology)
      > God gives freedom. In our country, there is freedom of religion. Can the bishops uphold this basic human right to choose one’s own belief? Even when it means leaving Islam? Can they communicate God’s power to Muslims?

      There is a fundamental flaw in the bishops communicating with CAIR or any other Islamic power group. We are called to listen to the oppressed. If you want to listen to the oppressed, you don’t go to the heads of either the Democratic or Republican parties nor to the British royalty. In a like manner, the power players in the Muslim groups are not the oppressed.
      > how about they speak 1:1 with the young lady who was forced to have her head and eyebrows shaved?
      > can they “listen” to the traumas of being abused that were experienced before coming to this country? Unquestionably there is a need to heal those traumas.
      > perhaps you know of other oppressed or traumatized individuals, either by personal experience or through this website.

      From the article above: “Catholics who regularly obtained information from Catholic media were more likely to unfavorably view Muslims than those who did not.”
      > That will be because Catholic media remembers the persecuted Christians in the world and sometimes has speakers like Robert Spencer who are knowledgeable about Islam. Are the bishops also remembering this world scene and not being misled by only looking at part of the entire context or by political motivations?

      If you feel a responsibility, please contact the bishops with your concerns.
      If you know how to contact them, please let me know how (and save me a step). Thank you.

    • Lukas says

      Jan 14, 2017 at 1:39 am

      The same case also happened in Indonesia (several Muslims espouse Christianity)

  2. Walter Sieruk says

    Jan 11, 2017 at 1:55 pm

    Those US Catholic bishops are only wasting the time and effort in even trying the engage in “dialogue ” those Muslim officials .. For those Islamic officials will set up a smokescreen of double-talk in those so called “negotiations For there is such a thing in Islam which his called Taqiyya .This is the Islamic doctrine the deception is a good thing to do as long as it’s done for the advancement of Islam. In strong contrast to this practice of Taqiyya is the teachings found in the Bible . For the Bible informs its readers in Proverbs 11:18. “The wicked worketh a deceitful work…” Likewise, the very next chapter[12] of the same book of Proverbs it reads in verse 5 “The counsels of the wicked are deceit .” Also further on verse 20 it instructs “Deceit is in the heart of them that imagine evil…” [K.J.V.]

  3. Angemon says

    Jan 11, 2017 at 1:58 pm

    An emerging Catholic dialogue with Muslims aims to show public support for Islamic American communities.

    What a disgusting manifestation of virtue-signaling. I wonder what Pelagius of Cordoba, Flavianos Melke or Antonio Primaldo and his companions would think of this…

  4. Keith Gilbert says

    Jan 11, 2017 at 2:00 pm

    And these girley men in long dresses wonder why the so called ‘churches’ are nearly empty…it’s time to move on and start killing the enemy…islam! With any means possible.

    • Les says

      Jan 12, 2017 at 4:27 am

      Keith
      There you go again sounding like a deranged Muslime.

      I’m praying for you

    • Terry says

      Jan 12, 2017 at 8:14 pm

      Keith- I agree with you. I don’t see where you sound like a deranged Muslim, as Les says.

      Perhaps the common ground between the pope, and these ” church leaders”- discussing how to do child molestation, not get caught and sued.

      Didn’t the San Diego archdiocese .go bankrupt from the abuse suits, and declare bankruptcy a few years ago? (And, if memory serves, so did a few other dioceses in the US; and there were charges in numerous other countries). So, maybe that is the common ground

      • Keith Gilbert says

        Jan 12, 2017 at 9:25 pm

        Today’s so called churches have become little more than a safe harbor for cowards run by girlie men!

  5. Donovan Nuera says

    Jan 11, 2017 at 2:20 pm

    I believe a few years back, various vocal alumni of Georgetown wanted to have the Vatican end their relationship with that university as it (the school) was not holding up the tenets of Catholicism when it came to abiding by the leadership of Pope Benedict XVI and was promulgating stances anathema to traditional catholic teaching and trying to be a liberal-socialist-proggie institution (with a basketball team attached).

    • Kay says

      Jan 12, 2017 at 10:13 am

      I wonder where those vocal alumni are now?
      I wonder if the University no longer needs their donations, if it is perhaps accepting foreign donations.

      • Terry says

        Jan 12, 2017 at 8:17 pm

        Going back to the 2012 Democratic convention- wasn’t the college (I think law school) who gave the pro-birth control pill/pro-abortion speech a student at Georgetown?

        And, a year or two later, lost an election for something in a liberal section of Cal.

  6. Vic says

    Jan 11, 2017 at 2:40 pm

    Isaiah 9:16
    For those who guide this people are leading them astray;
    And those who are guided by them are brought to confusion.

    We need to pray without ceasing. These are dark days.

  7. Bill says

    Jan 11, 2017 at 2:42 pm

    The institutional leaders of the Roman Catholic Church are destroying the institution as religion. They should just admit that Islam is a better tool for destabilizing nations, bringing on a global socialist government of elites and surrender any pretense that they are a religious institution. The Vatican, the American Bishops and Cardlinals have become a distinctly political organization. They are anti Constitution, pro socialism and against US sovereignty.

    To be clear. I oppose the Church’s politics.

  8. Guy Macher says

    Jan 11, 2017 at 3:12 pm

    By helping Muslims accomplish their goals, these bishops are apostate and traitorous.

  9. Mong says

    Jan 11, 2017 at 3:33 pm

    NO MORE DIALOGUE.

    I think we all know where we stand by now.

  10. Dave says

    Jan 11, 2017 at 3:37 pm

    Cardinal Dan DiNardo took command of the USCCB only a few weeks ago, so he is new to the job. He might not know everything that goes on yet. In any case, I trust him (I knew him as Fr Dan DiNardo way back when.). I met him around 30 yrs ago and he impressed me as man truly inspired by the Holy Spirit. I’ve been tracking his “promotions” ever since. I am not surprised he got this post. In fact, I am happy he is in this position. It would not surprise me if one day he was Pope. Anyway, I wonder if he knows about this. I am interested in finding his comments on this.

    I will say that St Francis tried this and he failed. In fact, Francis went on one of the Crusades expecting to either convert the muslims, or become a martyr by beheading. The sultan refused to behead him, for various reasons, and released Francis. St Francis returned to Europe, but he never again attempted to try to convert the Islamists, considering it highly unlikely that one would be able to convert any Islamist, so stubborn were they. He did, however, give some advice for those who still wanted to try.

    Perhaps these bishops think they can do one better than St Francis. (I doubt it, however.)

    • Kay says

      Jan 12, 2017 at 2:20 am

      1. If you find Cardinal DiNardo’s comments, please share them.
      2. What was St Francis’ advice? (but I thought the sultan converted; was I wrong?)

  11. gravenimage says

    Jan 11, 2017 at 3:52 pm

    US Catholic bishops hold “dialogue” with Hamas-linked group to engage in “advocacy in support of Muslim community”
    …………………..

    More suicidal “interfaith” stupidity…

  12. c matt says

    Jan 11, 2017 at 4:01 pm

    Cardinal Blase J. Cupich of Chicago was designated as the dialogue’s Catholic chairman and assumed the position

    I am certain he did – probably didn’t even request K-Y.

    • gravenimage says

      Jan 11, 2017 at 4:15 pm

      Ouch!

  13. billybob says

    Jan 11, 2017 at 4:26 pm

    “While our meetings will still have as a central component the all-important theological conversation, right now there is an urgency to engage more in a kind of advocacy and policy in support of the Muslim community,”

    “All-important theological conversation” – what a joke! What do they expect to accomplish with such a thing? Some kind of ecumenical movement? The Muslims already know all they want to know about Christianity from their Quran, and in return they will only tell lies about Islam to the Catholics.

    “Work in trying to change the negative narrative surrounding Muslims in our popular media.” I have heard many times such a statement that there is a “negative narrative surrounding Muslims in our popular media”, but I have never seen anything but whitewashing and PC. So weird.

    What more could they ask for? Muslims get better press than Jews or any other group from the MSM. I suppose they can always demand even more. Get the MSM to print glowing stories about the Muslim community and promote things like “Wear the hijab day”. It is so disgusting. There simply isn’t any real reporting on the biggest issue of our times in the MSM, but the Bishops want even more lies.

  14. somehistory says

    Jan 11, 2017 at 7:41 pm

    They are so very wrong. Sitting down to eat at the table of demons only contaminates what might otherwise have been good. Paul said not to have a sharing such as this, and Jesus Himself warned against trying to “serve two masters.”

    And as for the *uptick* in anti-islam: If a woman sees a roach in her kitchen, and only one, she is not likely to be disturbed by it, nor call her husband at work or call for an exterminator. However, if she enters the kitchen to see them in great swarms, in the sink, on the walls and even getting into the fridge, she is not going to just wait and see what they do.

    When moslims were in a few countries, many may have looked at their way of life, the men and women in flowing robes and living in tents, and thought they were *exotic.* Even the images of the men on camels, racing across the desert or wielding daggers may not have been seen as too dangerous to those not living there.

    Now that millions of them are on the streets, in local businesses and even in government offices and law enforcement, they don’t seem so much as *exotic* as they do dangerous and for those in the know, evil and sneaky with their many means of warfare against all others.An uptick in awareness of the danger is a good thing. moslims aren’t the ones needing protection.

    • Kay says

      Jan 12, 2017 at 2:22 am

      Good point.

  15. Mark A says

    Jan 11, 2017 at 9:26 pm

    I’m Catholic and I’ve read the Koran and hadith.

    Having read the Koran I think the USCCB is delusional if it thinks any good will come from this.

    Read Sura 9 for the ISNA’s real view of “inter-faith dialogue.” As per Sura 9, Catholics are “People of the Book” who are to be given three basic choices: convert to Islam; accept second class status in an Islamic society (with Muslims as the only first class citizens) with willing submission (to all Muslims) and pay the jizya to Islamic authorities in exchange for their protection; or, if unwilling to accept the first two choices, be killed by Muslims.

    That’s all I need to know about “inter-faith dialogue” with Islam. Sura 9 of the Koran says it all.

  16. More Ham Ed says

    Jan 12, 2017 at 3:45 am

    One-way “dialog”
    One-way “support”
    One-way submission:

  17. Les says

    Jan 12, 2017 at 4:38 am

    The USCCB is still full of old liberal prelates who think that talk without hard truth will make life blissful. This is a delusion that has caused Catholics and good people in general to engade in the dangerous feel good dictatorship of relativism.

    Jesus did not seek unity at the expense of truth, but only unity in the truth and there is no mercy and acceptance without truth

    “Do not think that I have come to bring peace upon the earth. I have come to bring not peace but the sword. For I have come to set a man ‘against his father, a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law; and one’s enemies will be those of his household.’”
    Matt 10:34-36

    • Kay says

      Jan 12, 2017 at 9:28 am

      “there is no mercy and acceptance without truth”
      So true.

      The verse you quote has often been brought to my mind in recent months. Maybe more of Jesus’ strange sayings will begin to make more sense in these days. Like this– I have many more things to tell you but you could not bear them now . . .

  18. Marty says

    Jan 12, 2017 at 4:58 am

    Cowardly idiots.
    Meanwhile, in the good ol’ UK
    A koran passage denying Jesus is the Son of God was sung in Arabic
    at Scottish episcopal church service.
    The supine idiots behind the blasphemy thought it a great event
    One of the bravest men around is Michael Nazir Ali, a Pakistani Christian & Anglican bishop.
    He’s condemned it & is devoting his life to exposing mohammedan persecution of
    others.
    Other church “leaders” have failed to condemn the travesty.

  19. UNCLE VLADDI says

    Jan 12, 2017 at 6:31 am

    Not at all surprising. Catholics are idolaters who worship the Romans’ old war-god, Mithrais (Mitra) while the muslims worship their own pagan deity, Ar-Ramman.

  20. Susette says

    Jan 12, 2017 at 3:17 pm

    Wait…did I actually read…the US Bishops expressed concern about “a serious uptick in violence against American Muslims”??? Don’t they know about 9/11, Orlando, San Bernardino, Ft. Hood and the Boston Marathon??? And all the other attempts (Times Square, Minnesota Mall stabbing, New York and New Jersey pipe bomb, etc., etc.) Nearly 3100 Americans were killed by moslems in the name of religion since 9/11. How many Catholics, in the name of religion, killed moslems since 9/11 in America? ZERO.

    • Terry says

      Jan 12, 2017 at 8:24 pm

      As (I think it was Wellington -somewhere recently on JW) put it bluntly.

      (Paraphrasing)- why let facts get in the way of one’s opinions and views and statements. That applies here.

      And, as mentioned in the article -more than twice as many hate crimes against Jews- where is the catholic church holding meetings to combat Anti-Antisemitism? or, doing anything about it?

      • Kay says

        Jan 12, 2017 at 8:37 pm

        The Church should be doing more to speak about antisemitism (as should any human rights group) and more about their own persecuted members.
        It leaves one thinking that the churches are simply being manipulated and not speaking or acting from their own core values.
        Must be time to repent again.

  21. rich says

    Jan 12, 2017 at 10:38 pm

    “The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops is a disgrace to Catholicism, to Christianity, and to humanity.”

    Exactly correct. This American Catholic agrees wholeheartedly. Thank you, Robert!

    • ninetyninepct says

      Jan 13, 2017 at 12:27 pm

      I strongly agree. I have complained to Bishops and clergy here in Canada and it is the same pathetic grovelling response. No wonder Catholics are turning away from the Church. A leader who grovels blindly to Islam and lower clergy who grovel to the pope. Why is the Catholic Church deliberately refusing to fight for Christianity? It and they seem to be intentionally and willingly prostrating themselves to an organization that openly declares it hatred for Christians, an organization that blindly obeys a book of hate that clearly states it’s intention to kill Christians.

      Is the pope a Muslim? These Catholic clergy are supposed to study and learn other “religions” but this bunch know nothing. What is confusing about the statement “to strike their necks”? The Catholic Church clergy are disgusting and DO NOT speak for Catholics or Christians.

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