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Canadians from Iran and Pakistan rally against the “Islamophobia” law

Feb 16, 2017 6:22 pm By Robert Spencer

The supporters of the Canadian bill condemning “Islamophobia” insist that it will not restrict the freedom of speech, but interim Conservative Leader Rona Ambrose was more realistic: she said that she was concerned that charges of “Islamophobia” would be used “to intimidate rather than to inform,” and added: “I do worry that some of my work trying to empower women and girls in Muslim communities could be branded as ‘Islamophobic’ if I criticize practices that I believe are oppressive.”

Of course she is absolutely right. That is exactly what happened to Pamela Geller and me when we held a conference about honor killing. The interviewees in the video above come from Iran and Pakistan and are against the bill because they know what it leads to. As one of them said, “I know how it starts.” This is how.

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  1. Veka Fitzfrancis says

    Feb 16, 2017 at 6:35 pm

    ‘This is how a republic dies, to thunderous applause’

    • Sean says

      Feb 17, 2017 at 12:47 am

      Wait, wait. Is that a star wars quote? You imperial scum!

  2. John W. says

    Feb 16, 2017 at 6:48 pm

    I would happily welcome any of those people into the USA as they clearly are in the West seeking freedom and are willing to speak out and defend it. That’s more than I can say for plenty of native born Americans and Canadians.

  3. mortimer says

    Feb 16, 2017 at 7:00 pm

    Motion-103 is the D-Day landing for SHARIA LAW. The government wants to INCREASE POLICE SURVEILLANCE of critics of ISLAM, send them to jail where they will be beaten up or KILLED by VIOLENT MUSLIM JAILBIRDS.

    This is the start of a new INQUISTION with Justin as the new TORQUEMADA condemning anti-Islamic HERETICS to IMPRISONMENT AND DEATH!

    They want to fill Canada with Sharia fanatics.

    • M says

      Feb 16, 2017 at 7:16 pm

      But… there won’t be any muslims in Jail. That would be Islamphobic to hold them to western laws and values, like not brutally murdering their children.

    • Huck Folder says

      Feb 16, 2017 at 7:44 pm

      “This is the start of a new INQUISITION…”

      Remind the instigator, trudeau, and the opposition leaders of
      “The Nose of the Camel.”

      • Dennis says

        Feb 18, 2017 at 4:52 am

        That’s not the camel’s nose, it’s the HEAD!
        The camel has already poked its nose into the US tent.

  4. mortimer says

    Feb 16, 2017 at 7:06 pm

    FREEDOM OF SPEECH IS NOT NEGOTIABLE.

  5. jewdog says

    Feb 16, 2017 at 7:09 pm

    Justin Trudeau is an ignoramus.

    • Angemon says

      Feb 16, 2017 at 8:00 pm

      A dangerous ignoramus, considering his position and the “toys” at his disposal.

    • Christianblood says

      Feb 17, 2017 at 10:06 pm

      It is not Justin Trudue the same politically-correct appeasement of islamists goes on in every Western country.

  6. Westman says

    Feb 16, 2017 at 7:17 pm

    It’s good to see that thinking Muslims realize blanket epithets will lead to similar responses that are detrimental to community relationships and the discussion of real issues.

    • JIMJFOX says

      Feb 16, 2017 at 8:54 pm

      Thinking muslims- a rare breed indeed. You seem unaware that allah tells muslims not to question?
      Quran 5:101:
      “Believers ask not questions about things which if made plain to you may cause you trouble when the Quran is revealed.”

      • epistemology says

        Feb 16, 2017 at 9:56 pm

        There are Muslims who don’t care about their religion, a rare breed indeed, but they exist in small numbers. We have to support these people. I tutored an Afghan boy in maths yesterday, his mom wears normal jeans, a Western top and her hair is dyed in Western style and no headscarf, all perfectly normal according to our standards. Hope there will be more of them.

      • Westman says

        Feb 17, 2017 at 12:51 am

        The Mormons get the same advice yet, miraculously, there are several organized Mormon groups who think for themselves. Every religion has practical members who see the devout as a lttle unbalanced and many members, perhaps 30%, who don’t even know the doctrine. There are 10’s of millions of reasonable Muslims, mostly in the West.

        • C T says

          Feb 17, 2017 at 1:37 pm

          Yeah….Mormons don’t kill you for apostasy. Big difference. Former Mormons sometimes get really mad at being kicked off the membership roster of the formal LDS church (“excommunication”), but that is literally the worst thing that happens to them. They can start their own version of Mormonism if they want, and sometimes they do.
          The reason the reasonable Muslims are mostly in the West is that here they’re free to interpret Islam as they wish without being killed/jailed as apostates.
          The Koran doesn’t allow sects within Islam. Combine that with Hadith (“Sayings” that are not in the Quran and treated as authentic words of Muhammed depending on their supposed chain of narration) saying to kill/jail apostates and condone murder of Muhammed-slanderers, and the more violent versions of Islam tend to rise to the top because they’re more willing to kill those who espouse peaceful versions as “apostates” from Islam. To stop them, the legitimacy of the hardliner versions must be attacked (which isn’t done by pretending they’re not following their Islamic scriptures, as so many have been fruitlessly trying to do). Saudi Arabia could do that almost single-handedly by repudiating the Sunni Hadith (most Muslims are Sunni) as fully unreliable and embracing Quranism; that the home of Mecca instead funds the spread of Hadith-based extremism and intolerance is a crime against humanity. There are still some Shi’a, but they are more flexible in which Hadith have what authority, and Nizaris–with their focus on human reasoning and success in many professional spheres–would likely rise to the top in the Shi’a world without the Iranian theocracy around.

        • Terry says

          Feb 17, 2017 at 9:22 pm

          Mr Westman, if there are 10’s of millions of reasonable Muslims, mostly in the West.

          Where are they? Any special reason that they aren’t saying something, anything, about what their coreligionists are doing?

          any protests against ISIS? any Muslims saying that the scum who killed the people in the Ft Lauderdale airport is wrong (OTHER THAN THE LEFTISTS POLITICIANS AND THEIR STOOGES IN THE LAME STREAM MEDIA). I mean the Muslims saying something.

          I don’t think -if there are these 10’s of millions-where the hell are they?

        • occupant9 says

          Feb 18, 2017 at 2:52 am

          Islam is to religion as sharks are to wheat fields.

          The true, and perhaps kinder beliefs of Muhammadans without power, constituency or theological backing are irrelevant. No matter how well intended, they provide nothing but fog for the dangerous ones, meaning Islam has nothing good in store for us.

          We really must question the sanity/honesty/capacity of anyone who reveres in a manner of emulation and deep respect, the character and deeds of Mo.

        • Dennis says

          Feb 18, 2017 at 5:09 am

          10’s of millions, let’s say 50 million. That would be 3% of the ~1.6 Billion Muslims worldwide. I would say that there are probably more than that; maybe 10% or even up to 20% if they could feel safe from persecution for heresy or apostasy. Those who are genuinely opposed to fundamental Islamism certainly deserve protection by Western cultures. Part of that protection is rooting out and expelling the fundamentalist hate preachers and their devoted followers. Remember that a fundamental principle of Islam is that “silence is approval”. That is the basis for the part of Islamic scripture known as the Sira. Anyone who refuses to publicly condemn ISIS or Hamas is an Islamist sympathizer and does not belong in Western society.

  7. IndianTiger says

    Feb 16, 2017 at 8:20 pm

    Go (stupid) Canada, go! You have just started the process of self-destruction. With over a thousand years of experience dealing with islam, we can tell you this: appeasing muslims never works. It only brings more demands.

    • WTF is wrong with people says

      Feb 16, 2017 at 10:48 pm

      I definately agree. The leftists keep trying to sell everyone on the special treatment they get by saying we are intolerant. This is not the case. I don’t believe Canadians are intolerant of anyone as long as they respect our country and what it stands for. This motion is a slap in the face to all Canadians. The leftists bringing this motion in is a clear attack on the freedom of our country and everything it stands for. And it will be used as a tool to shut people up. That is what it is being used for already. These are very dark times for Canada. People everywhere need to educate themselves on how the leftists are operating. The only safe way to deal with them would be to answer no to anything and everything always.

      • Dawn says

        Feb 17, 2017 at 10:59 am

        Forget the backbenchers name from last night, ot was the news showed her reading pages with hateful slurs which is wrong but what is sad she never mentioned the hateful slurs of the Iman not sure how to spell it Im speaking of a mosque in Quebec. He said about killing Jews , oh well that was forgotten I’m sure.

      • Stephen says

        Feb 17, 2017 at 10:30 pm

        That would be “definitely”. Agree with your post.

    • Dennis says

      Feb 18, 2017 at 5:17 am

      Justin Trudeau is a modern day version of Neville Chamberlain, a self delusional appeaser.

  8. Terry says

    Feb 16, 2017 at 8:28 pm

    If Muslims from Iran & Pakistan ARE AGAINST THIS- the bill must be really bad.

    They, (not first hand experience) seem to be two of the most repressive regimes around ( especially Iran).

    Kill the bill.

    (I am not a Canadian) (Cannot vote against Trudeau and his lefty friends)

    • gravenimage says

      Feb 16, 2017 at 11:33 pm

      One of those interviewed against this bill is a Pakistani Christian–Infidels in Dar-al-Islam have suffered most from such “blasphemy” laws.

      • C T says

        Feb 17, 2017 at 7:38 pm

        Islamic doctrine is a constant blasphemy against the Christian God. It’s pretty rich to hear them whine about “blasphemy” when the criticism is aimed at Islamic doctrine.

  9. SAKOVKT says

    Feb 16, 2017 at 8:29 pm

    I think that we are looking at only the surface of something else.

    How does one explain the bizarre coalition between Islamic Fundamentalists and the Hedonistic Western Left?

    Might it be this?

    Radical Jihad—–pragmatic coalition of Powerful Islamists and Socialists——Occupy Wall Street, Soros and OFA

    (OFA-Obama’s organizing for Action)

    The left and right of this coalition is composed of useful, malcontent idiots who need only a leader to mobilize them for causes they really don’t understand.

    The center, the powerful “inner party” is composed of rich and powerful pragmatists who have no personal belief in anything beyond what they can bring to the table in order to take Western power.

    It’s nothing new, for ideological opponents to ally against a common enemy, in this case, Western Conservatives.

    If this makes sense, then who are these people?

    Russia and China stand outside of it, apprehensive of what it implies for them but also opportunists who realize that the West is weak and the opportunity to defeat this coalition is fleeting. On the plus side, victory, for them, is the world, just as it is for the Left-Islam Coalition. In any case, there isn’t any choice but to defeat the Islamo-Socialist Western Coalition.

    This would explain why so many Americans cheer Putin and even China’s challenge to Obama, even though both have declared themselves as our enemy.

    In a certain sense, for American Conservatives, Russia and China actually are allies against the Islamo-Socialist Coalition.

    In our post-Imperial, post- National Period, politics no longer has any geographic borders as it once had when allies and enemies were a lot easier to figure out.

    If this makes any sense, then, who are these “Globalists”, exactly?

    My guess, is that we’d find as many Red Danny Bendits among them as Muslim Clerics and that none of them really regard ideology as anything more than propaganda in their quest for power.

    People in power are kind of like that.

    • gravenimage says

      Feb 16, 2017 at 11:40 pm

      You are mistaken in believing that Russia and China are consistent in opposing Islam. They are as inconsistent as is the West, I’m afraid.

      • Brian Hoff says

        Feb 16, 2017 at 11:57 pm

        China have close to 200 000 000 moslim many are highly skills party member or hightly skills people who work in farming and industries. They are peacefully.

        • gravenimage says

          Feb 17, 2017 at 12:09 am

          Is *this* what “Brian Hoff”–really, “DefenderofIslam”–considers “peacefully”? This story was from just yesterday:

          “China: Muslim murders eight in knife attack in Xinjiang”

          https://www.jihadwatch.org/2017/02/china-muslim-murders-eight-in-knife-attack-in-xinjiang

          This story is from a couple of years ago:

          “China: Knife-wielding Muslims attack police station, government offices, dozens dead or injured”

          https://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/07/china-knife-wielding-muslims-attack-police-station-government-offices-dozens-dead-or-injured

          Also in 2014, Muslims went on a rampage at the Kunming Railway Station, murdering 27 injuring 109.

          There are many other cases.

          Pretending this is ‘peaceful” is just grotesque–but exactly what one would expect of this vicious Muslim apologist.

          And then in Russia, Muslims have waged Jihad at the Moscow theater, the Moscow subway, the Moscow airport, and slaughtered large numbers of children in the siege of the school at Beslan. Last year, one of his coreligionists *beheaded a four year old child* who was in her care.

          I suppose “Brian Hoff” considers this to be “peacefully”, as well…

        • Brian Hoff says

          Feb 17, 2017 at 12:12 am

          Before someone who is stupid say china cannot 200 million moslim china total population is 1.7 billion people.

        • john spielman says

          Feb 17, 2017 at 9:39 am

          individual muslims may be ‘peaceful’ but Islamic theology is NOT, as allah of islam shares the characteristics of Satan of the Bible because allah is a liar( deceiver) murderer and thief so it is with islam!

      • Christianblood says

        Feb 17, 2017 at 10:15 pm

        gravenimage

        Just keep the new destructive secular religion known as “liberal democracy” from entering Russia, China and Myanmar and they will be strong enough to stand up against any form of islamis threat in their respective countries. What is destroying the West is the disease of political-correctness and this disease originates from postmodernist liberal democracy. Watch Mr. Lavelle address this in the video clip below:

  10. 762x51FMJ says

    Feb 16, 2017 at 8:32 pm

    Islam is always one generation away from extinction.
    because it is perpetuated by ignorance, hate and fear.
    Ignorance is defined by a media complex that ignores and/or rationalizes Islam..
    The HATE begins for children in Madrassa but extends to the Mosque attendees
    who are reminded that they know where your family lives and thpenalty for apostasy is death.

    Welcome to Islam… …. A somehow legalized and rationalized death cult…

    • Brian Hoff says

      Feb 17, 2017 at 12:06 am

      Where is your proof. Than religion base on pure hate doesn’t last long. Look at nazism it was than religion for the germany people living there. Watch old newreel than look at the faces at the rally. Islam isnot than religion of hate as it last over 1400 years.

      • gravenimage says

        Feb 17, 2017 at 12:19 am

        How would “Brian Hoff”–really, “DefenderofIslam”–have us believe that since Muslims have oppressed, raped, and slaughtered in the name of their savage creed to 1400 years now that this somehow renders it anything but hateful?

        Probably because pious Muslims consider this horrific barbarism to be perfectly normal. *Ugh*.

        • john spielman says

          Feb 17, 2017 at 10:54 am

          yup to Brian Hoff-and those muslims that adhere to the quran and hadiths of muhammed, the barbarian practices of sharia law seem natural and acceptable because they have no love nor compassion in their souls – only allah – Satan

  11. 762x51FMJ says

    Feb 16, 2017 at 8:34 pm

    Islam is always one generation away from extinction.
    because it is perpetuated by ignorance, hate and fear.
    Ignorance is defined by a media complex that ignores and/or rationalizes Islam..
    The HATE begins for children in Madrassa but extends to the Mosque attendees
    who are reminded that they know where your family lives and that the penalty for apostasy is death.

    Welcome to Islam… …. A somehow legalized and rationalized death cult…

    • 762x51FMJ says

      Feb 16, 2017 at 8:50 pm

      Repeat again over and over…

    • JIMJFOX says

      Feb 16, 2017 at 8:56 pm

      Correct- & worth repeating!

  12. Dapto says

    Feb 16, 2017 at 9:18 pm

    The good thing about this law is all Muslims in America can move to Canada and live under sharia law.

    • Bhaarat says

      Feb 16, 2017 at 9:23 pm

      True, as 480 crossed in to QC last month alone.

      • bostongal912 says

        Feb 17, 2017 at 3:16 am

        Great! I’ll drink to that! Let’s hope that more do the same!

    • WTF is wrong with people says

      Feb 16, 2017 at 11:00 pm

      For now anyway. Americans will always need to be vigilant from here on out. I don’t think that Canada is their end game. I firmly believe they are taking Canada to make it easier to get to US. So for you Americans please pay attention in future elections because they will keep trying. As for my Canada brothers and sisters, thank you very much for voting in a bunch of Looney Asshats that are going to destroy our country. It is greatly appreciated. I am appalled at your idiocity and never ending need to be politically correct at the risk of hurting some evil peoples feelings.

  13. Bhaarat says

    Feb 16, 2017 at 9:22 pm

    I am sure liberal is done in canada.
    The worst ever cocus in this term ever in Canadian history.

  14. Dov Berrol says

    Feb 16, 2017 at 9:57 pm

    Thank you Robert for posting this wonderful clip from Ezra Levant’s group. This gives me hope that some of the refugees we are letting in – especially those from persecuted minorities such as gays and Christians and Zoroastrians and Copts – may help us win the Jihad World War. They know best what it’s like to live under Sharia’s blasphemy laws. G-d knows there are now thousands of secular Turks looking for a civilized place to live.

    How we find these progressive and valuable souls, I don’t know. Perhaps the Canadian Conservative Party (who will be electing a new leader soon) will set new restrictions on immigration of Muslims so that we can welcome these modern free-thinking souls into the party to show that we can be empathetic to those fleeing Islam and to show that we will protect and encourage them to be part of the western civilized world without fear of being thrown off rooftops or jailed or beheaded or drowned alive in a cage. It would be wonderful to see these Arab and Farsi speaking people be at the forefront of debating the lefties in the Liberal Party in Parliament.

    • WTF is wrong with people says

      Feb 16, 2017 at 11:13 pm

      There is a Canadian muslim man by the name of Tarek Fatah. He reached out to The Canadian senate about the dangers they are bringing to this country in trying to appease these fools. The video is on youtube. He is a columnist at the Toronto Sun and he is not happy with what is going on either. Since he has started speaking out he is getting death threats constantly. But he is still adamant to keep talking. He is very brave. I really enjoyed listening to him. So they are out there and they are trying. This is going to be a battle. The left is trying to make it out as if this about race or religion. This is not the case at all. It is about good vs evil. Nothing more, nothing less. Anyway I love Tarek he comes across as such a sweet, caring man that loves this country and he is really trying to help keep it safe.

      • gravenimage says

        Feb 16, 2017 at 11:56 pm

        I’m afraid Tarek Fatah is a rather equivocal figure:

        “A brief debate with Tarek Fatah”

        https://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/05/a-brief-debate-with-tarek-fatah

        • WTF is wrong with people says

          Feb 17, 2017 at 1:12 am

          That really makes me so very sad after watching him appeal to the Canadian Defense Commission and telling them to watch the mosques and what they are preaching. I thought his heart was in the right place even as he told them not to appease them and give them special treatment. I’m just sad now…

  15. Dum Spiro says

    Feb 16, 2017 at 10:47 pm

    I found a couple of articles on this:

    …Ironically, said Levant, this event was being held at the CCC’s Gervais Drive headquarters because at the last-minute the Montecassino Hotel on Chesswood cancelled the contract out of concerns from calls received in protest of this event.

    http://m.torontosun.com/2017/02/15/leitch-others-fight-back-against-politically-correct-nonsense

    Can Liberals and New Democrats who spoke in support of M-103 object to the Conservative motion and vote against that next week? If Conservatives thought the Liberals were playing politics with M-103, the Conservatives are now most definitely playing politics on the same issue, by daring Liberals to vote against a motion which condemns acts of intolerance and hate against all faith-based communities in Canada.

    http://www.nationalpost.com/m/wp/news/canada/canadian-politics/blog.html?b=news.nationalpost.com/news/canada/canadian-politics/rather-than-condemn-islamophobia-tories-would-condemn-all-religious-intolerance-and-racism

    So is M-103 not going to be voted on until April and is what is currently (and first) being considered a Conservative motion that does not single out Islam for special treatment and preference like motion M-103 does? (I need some informed Canadians to comment on this to clear it up.)

    Perhaps M-103 has been “headed off at the pass.” That’s the only kind of “head off” we want to see in Canada…
    — Spero

    • WTF is wrong with people says

      Feb 16, 2017 at 11:23 pm

      From what I understand it has been set back to April now. They were supposed to vote last night, but that didn’t go over as smoothly as the Left would have liked. 1200 Canadians banded together in the matter of 2 days to protest this nonsense. So now it has been pushed to April because there were some conservatives that wouldn’t agree to it. So now the Conservatives are going to bring forth their own motion which will be the same but for everyone elses protection. It will be a motion for every other religion and not for people that like to call everyone islamaphobes. The Conservatives are simply playing the same game now that the Looney Left is trying to pedal. And I say wake up people this is our lives and our country.

  16. tom says

    Feb 16, 2017 at 11:11 pm

    We left our countries knowing fully well what Islam is. Appears it has not left us. Trudeau knows nothing or knows what he is going for political reasons. I feel so helpless at times. Just don’t know what to do. Yes this is the first step for Shariah. Where do I go? Back to Trump land.

    • WTF is wrong with people says

      Feb 16, 2017 at 11:30 pm

      You know I was talking to my husband the other day about this. I said to him “I cannot imagine how the people feel that came here to escape this craziness.” I know how I feel but I haven’t had to live it yet and don’t want to. But to move to a country to escape it just to have that country adopt the same thing is nothing short of a nightmare. For these people I am sorry. I’m sorry the Liberals have let you down and told you that you don’t matter through their actions. I’m sorry you are being faced with this nightmare again. Be strong and know you are not alone.

      • gravenimage says

        Feb 16, 2017 at 11:58 pm

        Very true.

      • Phil Copson says

        Feb 17, 2017 at 10:52 am

        Exactly – there are many who came to the West to escape Sharia Law, the religious police etc and wanted nothing more than “to learn the language and fit in.” (direct quote from an Iranian in his 70s that I know).

        The West has benefited from the presence of intelligent, educated, middle-class professionals from Middle Eastern countries who integrated, respected and supported the Western way of life; we are now betraying them as well as our own populations, by importing the Third World wholesale.

        So far as the Left are concerned though, these people are turn-coats to be despised. A few months ago there was a programme on the BBC in which the black interviewee said that he loved Great Britain; the “Ugh!” look of disgust and contempt on the white female interviewer’s face told you everything that you needed to know about her and the BBC’s values – or lack of them.

    • Dawn says

      Feb 17, 2017 at 12:23 pm

      Trudeau knows plenty but thinks its harmless. If things go the way it looks like it could I will not consider Canada my country. I have nothing against immigrants but they neee to come but not wanting to change it. We can’t go their country and push our beliefs down their throats. We also can’t be hateful either.

    • Rob says

      Feb 17, 2017 at 10:34 pm

      People may not like Trump, but at least he is trying to stop this insanity! The U.S. voters had to take a long shot on Trump or, with Clinton, vote in Obama 2.0. Islam is in this for the long game and citizens of the West need to open their collective eyes and see the danger at the gates. Until I actually read the Koran and some of the hadith, I had no clue what was really going on. The rest of Western society also needs to be educated about Islam, and “Islamophobia” laws are designed to make sure that such an education is impossible. And THAT is stealth jihad.

  17. BLC says

    Feb 17, 2017 at 12:35 am

    You can’t really expect Trudeau to understand what he’s doing to the country or the people in it. He was born with a silver spoon in his mouth. He’s had a trust fund all his life. He has not ever really worked, but just dabbled in positions like camp counsellor, drama teacher, etc. He has been a backpacker. He’s only ever had to socialize with rich kids like himself from various countries. Real life concerns of the citizens are a joke to him. At the end of the day, he’ll go home to his gated community, wherever that maybe and he doesn’t have a care in the world. Terrorists can’t touch him.

    Canadians would do well to vote for someone who’s in touch with reality the next time.

    • Anne Smith says

      Feb 17, 2017 at 7:22 am

      Why on earth did the Canadians vote him in?

      • BLC says

        Feb 17, 2017 at 7:47 am

        In my opinion, they were trying to be trendy. Although they’re trying to forge a national identity of their own, they wanted someone with the popularity of Obama. They thought Trudeau was the closest thing to Obama. They’ll pay for voting him in for a long time to come. Sad.

      • WTF is wrong with people says

        Feb 18, 2017 at 4:04 am

        He promised electoral reform. But now he isn’t doing that. He also promised to legalize marijuana for all the hippies. That hasn’t happened. And I also heard that 1/3 of women voted for him because they found him attractive. I really believed he didn’t stand a chance. He is not at all qualified and comes across as an over grown frat boy.

        • Terry says

          Feb 18, 2017 at 2:05 pm

          Many women voted for JFK in 1960 because he was handsome; Jacqueline Kennedy was beautiful and two cute little children.

          he stole the election form Nixon- with the dead voting in Illinois and Texas (Texas was a swing state then, and usually swung Dem).

          We ended up with The Bay Of Pigs, Castro entrenched and the Viet Nam war- expanded by LBJ

  18. Louise M. says

    Feb 17, 2017 at 1:32 am

    I hope our MPs will have the humility to listen to those who know what they are talking about,
    and not to the parading peacocks, and Islam’s spokespersons Junior Trudeau, Mélanie Jolie and all those who vow to kill our freedom of speech…along with our Civilization.

    Hearing, from those who have experienced the horrors of the Sharia law, how much they cherish our freedom of speech is truly heartwarming.

    This is true and welcomed immigration. Those who come to our country because they love us and our values.

  19. Frazer says

    Feb 17, 2017 at 3:48 am

    When Muslims coming to Canada are saying Islamophobia isn’t a good idea, maybe we should listen. One of them says that Trudeau doesn’t understand the damage this will do to Canada. According to Conservative Leader Rona Ambrose, should one criticize their practices you could be charged with Islamophobia. I feel then that means if you don’t occur with honor killings, stoning to death, having two or more wives, beating your wife into submission, marring 7 year olds etc.., you will not be able to openly criticize these practices. So in a few years when an MPP puts forward a bill allowing Sharia law, or Islamic law is the religious law forming part of the Islamic tradition. It is derived from the religious precepts of Islam, particularly the Quran and the Hadith so members of parliament will not be allowed to object as it would be Islamophobia. Down and down we go…we don’t feel we need these kind of laws

    • Phil Copson says

      Feb 17, 2017 at 10:56 am

      Islamophilia is the problem.

  20. vladkoval says

    Feb 17, 2017 at 5:21 am

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=106&v=8IXNOoP2_as
    I copypast my comment from other topic
    Russia blogger and comic Ilya Madison. His joke: ” I came to the toilet with Quran, then I saw that toilet paper has run out, and I didn’t know what to do. I was desperate. Then I came out from the toilet and told my girlfriend: Look, that was terrible, I had to wipe my ass with my sock, thanks god Quran is OK (and he shows the sock and puts it in the Quran)/
    Now Ilya is threatened by muslims in Russia, authorities opened case against him for extremism, and he had to flee from Pakistan.. oh sorry, from Russia…(sarcasm)
    That happened in Jan 2017, Where is Spencer?
    Where is Geller?
    Where is Memri?

    • vladkoval says

      Feb 17, 2017 at 5:23 am

      And of course, where is reaction of Walid Shoebat on that?

    • vladkoval says

      Feb 17, 2017 at 5:31 am

      And note: that happened not in Chechnya or Tatarstan, as some love to hide away behind the false idea that “only Chechnya is islamic in Russia”.
      That happened in Sanct-Petersburg.
      As I told you, muslim demographic of Moscow and SPB is very huge, if not majority.

  21. JayT says

    Feb 17, 2017 at 6:19 am

    Brian Hoff your reasoning is laughingly weak on the subjects you espouse upon. Because something lasts a long time it must be good? Then Satanism fits your definition?

    You tried to equate Hitler with Islam, yet it’s well known Hitler didn’t present his ideology as coming from God, now did he? Hitler never claimed to have gotten his directions from an angel sent by God as Mohammed did.

    You also falsely claim that in China, Muslims live and work peacefully side by side with other Chinese, yet it’s well known the Uighurs have been fighting for independence using typical Muslim terrorist tactics of attacking the civilian population when they can. Here is an example of your peaceful living Muslims in China: http://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2017-02-16/china-holds-anti-terrorism-mass-rally-in-xinjiangs-uighur-heartland. Apparently, the Chinese militia marching through the streets to send a message to the Uighurs is *slightly* different than your its a wonderful world version.

    Also, your command of the English language in terms of writing seems to be stilted and broken as if it were not a language you are familiar with. So why use “Brian Hoff”?

  22. Yorkshire Kufir says

    Feb 17, 2017 at 6:31 am

    Canadian democracy is going the same way as Sweden’s has – It is dead, stick in a fork because it is close to DONE.

  23. scherado says

    Feb 17, 2017 at 7:41 am

    The full length and width of the confusion can be found at the link destination.(huffingtonpost)

  24. BLC says

    Feb 17, 2017 at 8:14 am

    Trudeau has so many Muslims in his party. There’s Maryam Monsef who lied on her immigration papers and said she was from Afghanistan when she was born in Iran. (She still hasn’t been deported for that lie.) There’s Omar Alghabra who had ties to an Islamic organization in Canada that funded terrorism. There’s Iqra Khalid who’s trying to open the way to institute Pakistani blasphemy laws in Canada. That’s to name a few.

    Trudeau looks at Canadians and sees a bunch of snow bedouins who just need to be taught Wahhabism now. He has no regard for the Canadian people whatsoever.

  25. some common sense says

    Feb 17, 2017 at 10:14 am

    If there was no Islam in Canada at all this wouldn’t be an issue as anywhere else. Global Jihad is the objective. The so called moderates can spew all they want. They have been fighting among each other for centuries.

  26. Florida Jim says

    Feb 17, 2017 at 10:57 am

    Canada is moving into the world of Islamic rule. Step by step the python of Islam is strangling the once dynamic country. We may need a wall to keep them out.

  27. blitz2b says

    Feb 17, 2017 at 11:42 am

    @ Huck fodder Exactly! ” the camel nose” is a good example of appeasement gone wrong. History is riddled with examples of entire empires being brought down because of leniency and complacency, yet the liberal left in every single nation of the civilized world continues with their ignorance and turn blind eyes to their consequences.

    It boggles the mind to see how anyone could be oblivious to the fact that the Islamic form of governance is in blatant violation of basic human rights and the Koran spews hate speech to the very kind of people who are facilitating it’s rise.

    “… Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it…” Churchill

  28. Richard Courtemanche says

    Feb 17, 2017 at 12:28 pm

    An irrational government blind to reality

    Islamophobia Blasphemy Law (M-103) – Manipulation and hypocrisy!

    Let there be no doubt that there is a problem with Islam and it is up to Muslims to fix, not Canadians.

    Central Canadian values have evolved out of centuries of Judeo-Christian tradition. Over the last two centuries, these values such as freedom of thought, belief, opinion and speech, took root in Canada and Quebec, and are the genesis and overarching guide in the formation and advancement of Canadian values. Since World War II, other traditions and cultures have contributed to attaining the values vastly recognized as Canadian values in the twenty-first century.

    In an increasingly complex world, it is difficult to judge the merits of many government initiatives. This is aggravated by the opportunistic nature of some government actions, which may pursue short-term tactical political advantage, rather than advancing a principled agenda. Short-term solutions and tactics are necessary, of course, but they should be consistent with a core of principles and values that guide the country’s development in the long term. Programs and policies that run counter to these values, however, should receive special scrutiny and consideration. How a newbie and possibly not-so-clever minister could promulgate a bill on such a divisive matter, is appalling!

    Canadians believe that society in general, and governments in particular, should treat all individual Canadians equally. The justice system must treat everyone fairly. It must not be used as a substitute for the elected legislature, and should be limited to applying the law. An unconstitutional law M-103, against Islamophobia blasphemy, in Canada! Why hasn’t the justice system intervened in this breach of the Charter’s Freedom of Speech? Puzzling!

    Since the 1990s, various federal political leaders and parties have claimed to be the best representatives to define and safeguard Canadian values. This claim is obviously intended to automatically exclude any other persons or parties from the right to define and govern Canada. This claim is a call to accept a form of dictatorship; be it one man or one party rule or fascism. Such claims, if accepted without question, can only prove to be harmful to the very basic of values treasured by Canadians, freedom and democracy.

    Who would have thought that Ms Khalid and her collaborators, far away from their brutal ancestry, were so unhappy in this civilized country as to impale the Canadian Shield with a M-103 dagger when Canadians have been abundantly tolerant and accommodating, and for Muslims to become so intolerant towards their gracious benefactors!

    Ms Khalid wrote M-103 before the Quebec attack; why did she single out Islamophobia? The fact is, as a rule, acts of hatred against Muslims are not statistically very high in Canada. On a per capita basis, a Jew is eight times more likely to be the victim of a hate crime than Muslims. Sure, due to Islamist activities overseas and a propensity for Islam leaders to instigate animosity and rudely impose on the Canadian way of life, it’s logical to assume that may translate into more hatred towards Muslims here. But in fact, Canadians on the whole, have not shown Muslims special animosity. Quite the contrary, acts of violence against Muslims by normal Canadians have been rare. Incidentally, the significant rise of so-called extreme right-wing groups in Canada that incompetent and coward mainstream media and unsophisticated social justice warriors are attempting to label as fascists! Well, they’re certainly no more extreme than any Islamist organizations already well established in this country. Note that such rise has only been triggered by Muslims making unreasonable expectations imposing on Canadian way of life and their privileged government benefits, financial or otherwise, unavailable to many economically-stricken Canadians.

    So, why the bill then? To further intimidate the establishment, the elites such as universities, churches, unions, media, pusillanimous politicians and bureaucrats to silence patriotic citizens who have legitimate concerns about the state of their nation and freedoms threatened by Islamic extremism? To increase protection of Islamists while they continue to cavalierly expropriate Canada towards hijrah? Allah’s orders?

    Canadians are confused and outraged, and rightly so. This bill is inciting bigger troubles and backlash. Of course not all Muslims are so unappreciative but they are just as irrelevant to protect themselves against their own as they’ve been for centuries in the Middle East. Why women subject themselves to Sharia’s degrading treatment and barbarism is beyond comprehension! Many Muslims may find it hard right now but at the other end of the spectrum, it hasn’t been easy for patriotic Canadians and Quebecers to be reproached and humiliated by traitorous politicians. Threats such as those by Trudeau and Couillard towards regular Canadians might just make them angrier and create a backlash not only against Muslim communities but authorities as well. After all, governments have been highly responsible for worsening relations between cultures by failing to set limits on Islam and ensuring equality for all as per the Constitution. What civilized nation would let its government promulgate unconstitutional laws dissolving its identity! No loyal and responsible leader would abandon its country, eventually turning its people into a globalized melting pot of androids under the umbrella of a barbaric medieval culture.

    Canada was once a sovereign nation dedicated to the wellbeing of Canadian-born citizens. This is no more. With the advent of the Trudeau government, our nation has morphed into a repository for the world’s disgruntled, particularly for Islamic nations, and probably degrading towards a cultural and economic disaster like Sweden. Did the people of Canada ask for such as thing? Of course not. Within contemporary Canada, the gulf between public will and the will of government has never been greater. It’s not fear of the unknown, it’s fear of what’s known.

    About 70% (likely more now) of Canadians surveyed AGREED OR STRONGLY AGREED that people who come to Canada should change their behaviour to be more like Canadians. None of this should be controversial. Canadians want sound immigration policies and are rightly sceptical of mass Jihad migration as observed in the EU, Britain, etc…

    Muslim communities expect all levels of government to implement measures to protect them from normal Canadians. Canadians would also be expected to attend awareness programs on Islamic ways which are highly suspected to be radicalization of course, especially of children. Nothing indicates that Muslims would have to attend programs on the Canadian way of life and genuinely adhere to Canadian values, and most importantly, put an end to Sharia and related activities. Apparently, Islam considers itself a religion of dignity and authority; it’s impossible to think of any Muslim submitting himself to the disbelievers; indeed it is forbidden for a Muslim to go to live amongst them and acknowledge their authority over him, because his presence amongst them would make him feel weak and isolated, and, then he would become docile and apologetic before them. But Muslims should be filled with morale and confidence, they should be leaders, not followers. Islam doesn’t assimilate, Islam dominates. Hence, Islam is incompatible with Western… Canadian civilization.

    So, things don’t fare well for the future of Canada. It’s disconcerting to Canadians and Quebecers that weaklings like Trudeau and Couillard could actually bequeath such a legacy to our children. Furthermore, it appears that most members of all main political parties have succumbed to the Islamophobia propaganda and are prepared to vote for this ridiculous and undemocratic law, and damn the torpedoes. Shameful!

    Ms Khalid, is there any chance that you would put M-103 on hold, if not rescind it, pending you briefing Allah on the indiscipline and anti-social behaviour of his disciples for the last 1,400 years? It would show courage, wisdom and tolerance.

    Ministers! Respectfully asking you to learn the real issues and smarten up.

    “There are none so blind as those who will not see. The most deluded people are those who choose to ignore what they already know.” John Heywood – 1546

  29. davej says

    Feb 17, 2017 at 1:30 pm

    Welcome to Canada, where we respect freedom of speech, the absolute separation of Church and State and where people are treated as equals. Anyone who does not agree with these principles should turn back now.

    It must be very disheartening for Muslims trying to escape their religion to watch as Islamic blasphemy laws are passed in their country of refuge.

  30. davej says

    Feb 17, 2017 at 1:45 pm

    And of course very encouraging to those who have come here to spread the ideology of Islam, to demand special treatment and to impose Sharia law on their fellow citizens.

  31. Jaem says

    Feb 17, 2017 at 2:21 pm

    These are the people Canada used to welcome as refugees, the ones who are persecuted for speaking out against the inhumanity and injustice practiced as Sharia law in Iran and the Middle East. Thank God for those who stand up for freedom.

  32. Crimelord Canada says

    Feb 17, 2017 at 2:42 pm

    It isn’t a bill it’s a motion. A bill is something that becomes law a motion is nothing but an acknowledgment of something as when parliament condemned the BDS movement in the autumn. Not binding. Essentially meaningless.

  33. Richard says

    Feb 17, 2017 at 2:50 pm

    Question – “What was your intention?” [In publishing the Muhammad cartoon]
    Answer – “Our intention is this – it is to publish, as freeborn Albertans to publish whatever the hell we want”

  34. Dum Spiro says

    Feb 17, 2017 at 8:56 pm

    This is good too:



    You can learn even more by checking out the additional video references contained in the video…
    — Spero

    • Richard says

      Feb 18, 2017 at 3:37 pm

      Yep, great speech. That bloody Pakistani b….. Why does she not speak up against the blasphemy laws in her own country?

  35. Dum Spiro says

    Feb 19, 2017 at 8:02 pm

    Here are a couple more, from 2015 and 2013:

    2015:


    (and)

    2013:


    Canadians should be able to notice the progressively louder and faster beating of a certain kind of drum over time…
    — Spero

  36. Roland Daoust says

    Feb 21, 2017 at 4:25 am

    Any Canadian not sure about what kind of future awaits us, the following youtube makes clear where we are heading…

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