“’Conservatives claim that all terrorists are Muslim, but most violent attacks in the U.S. are carried out by white men,’” says Salon.
This claim is based on a discredited study. Back in June 2015, the New America Foundation published a study that garnered enthusiastic international publicity, as it purported to demonstrate that “right-wing extremists” and “white supremacists” were a larger threat to the U.S. than Islamic jihadis. The mainstream media was thrilled. Mediaite crowed: “White Americans Are Biggest Terror Threat in U.S.” The New York Times exulted: “Homegrown Extremists Tied to Deadlier Toll Than Jihadists in U.S. Since 9/11.” The Huffington Post cheered: “White Supremacists More Dangerous To America Than Foreign Terrorists, Study Says.” NPR rejoiced: “Right-Wing Extremists More Dangerous Than Islamic Terrorists In U.S.” TruthDig was thrilled: “White Right-Wing Terrorists Are Biggest Threat to Americans, Study Finds.” And on and on.
The media delight stemmed from the fact that the study confirmed its biases and relentless endeavor to downplay and deny the jihad threat. Thus the New York Times and NPR and the rest were not in the least interested in the fact that the New America Foundation study was obviously skewed, as it was based on the number of those killed by jihadis and by right-wing extremists since September 12, 2001, leaving out 9/11. The study also ignored the many, many foiled jihad plots, and the fact that jihadis are part of an international movement that has killed many thousands of people, while right-wingers and white supremacists are not. It stated that right-wing extremists had killed 48 people from September 12, 2001 to June 2015, while Islamic jihadists had killed only 26 people in the U.S. in that span. If 9/11 had been added, the tally would have been 3,032 killed by Islamic jihadists and 48 by purported right-wing extremists.
But all right, let’s play by the New America Foundation’s rules. Counting the Orlando jihad massacre, but leaving out 9/11 as the NAF study did, the death toll now stands at 76 killed by Islamic jihadis, and 48 by purported right-wing extremists (I repeat “purported” because to get to its count of 48, the NAF counted as “right-wing” attacks killings that were perpetrated by people who were obviously deranged psychopaths devoid of any ideology).
Also, let’s remember: 30,000 jihad terror attacks worldwide since 9/11. How many by Christians acting in accord with Christian teachings?
But it is increasingly clear that the Left doesn’t care about facts.
“CBS Poll: Two-Thirds of Democrats Say Islam, Christianity Equally Violent,” by Neil Munro, Breitbart, February 5, 2017:
Almost seven out 10 Democrats believe Islam “encourages violence… about the same as other religions,” according to a new CBS poll.
The trusting attitude towards Islam is revealed in the February 2017 poll follows 17 tumultuous years of attacks against Americans motivated or shaped by Islamic ideology throughout the United States—from the 9/11 atrocity to the Pulse nightclub attack in Florida committed by an observant, orthodox Muslim man from a Muslim family.
Merely one-in-seven Democrats believe that Islam is more violent than other religions, such as Christianity, Mormonism, Judaism, and Buddhism. One-in-ten Democrats believe that Islam is less violent that other religions, according to the poll of 1,019 adults, which was taken Feb. 1 and Feb. 2.
In contrast, Republicans have a far colder view of Islam. Sixty-three percent of Republicans view Islam as aggressive compared to other religions, and only two percent view Islam as more pacific than other faiths.
Still, 25 percent of Republican voters believe Islam’s encouragement of violence is level with Christianity’s doctrines, including the Beatitudes passage, reported by Matthew: “Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called children of God.”
The Koran, in contrast, is deemed by Islam’s adherents to be a direct transcript of Allah’s many commands, including these belligerent commandments:
I will cast terror into the hearts of those who have disbelieved, so strike them over the necks, and smite over all their fingers and toes.
Fight in the way of Allah those who fight you but do not transgress. Indeed. Allah does not like transgressors.
So when you meet those who disbelieve [in battle], strike [their] necks until, when you have inflicted slaughter upon them, then secure their bonds, and either [confer] favor afterwards or ransom [them] until the war lays down its burdens.
Former President Barack Obama and other leaders in the Democratic Party have repeatedly suggested that Islam is not more violent than other religions. Obama told Muslims in February 2016 that Islam means “peace,” although it actually means “submission.”
Similarly, a Feb. 3 letter signed by three senior Democratic legislators in the House argued that “there are other three million Americans who practice Islam peacefully. The specter that there would be a Federal program that—in name and action—singles out people of a particular faith warrants immediate [critical] consideration by the Department of Justice.”
Progressive and left-wing activists say much violence is caused by Christians, although few make the argument that the violence is motivated Christian doctrines.
“However, and this will probably shock many, so you might want to take a breath: Overwhelmingly, those who have committed terrorist attacks in the United States and Europe aren’t Muslims,” according to a Daily Beast column emphasizing the role of European nationalist groups in terrorism rates.
“Conservatives claim that all terrorists are Muslim, but most violent attacks in the U.S. are carried out by white men,” claims an article at Salon.com, which emphasizes the murders of abortionists….


Stan Lee says
There it is, out into the open. Definite proof that embrace of the Democrat-Socialist, anti-America agenda is proof of Democrat/Leftist insanity.
Mongoose says
When you ask them for examples you get the same names, Dylann Roof, and Timothy Mc Veigh.
And the unsubstantiated claim that most people killed in America are killed by Christians.
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Then your called names and the debate is over in their minds.
Kay says
They are liars. That is because their minds have become closed and they are literally unable to recognize truth anymore. They have acquired what the Bible calls “reprobate minds”. And I believe this entire trend started with the abortion debate, when these liberals screamed, “It’s not a baby! It’s not human! It’s a blob of cells! My body my choice!” etc. That was a huge step on the long road to denial of truth. Now we see them denying truth everywhere. Another example would be the whole transgender debate. Now you can be a man or a woman simply because you FEEL that you are. And you are “free” to change from one minute to the next.
john spielman says
proof that these democRATS are NOT Christ’s followers- to say such IS SIMPLY A LIE!
There NO passages in the New Testament that allows any violence against anyone!
(note Luke chapter 19 is a parable about the end of this age when Jesus returns and destroys all evil and evil doers with the glory of His presence!
Kessler says
There is no equivalent to Jihad in Christian theology, hence why none of these democrats will be able to point to any Christian supremacist groups actively murdering non-Christians and gaining recruits worldwide by invoking Biblical passages and promoting the duty to fight for the spread of Christianity.
Unlike Islam, Christianity does not contain an ideology encouraging it’s followers to wage war on unbelievers.
How stupid are the democrats?!?
Kepha says
Not stupid. Bigoted.
somehistory says
Evidently the majority of demonrats are liars and enablers of satan’s wild beast.
Liars will pay for the lies they tell, knowing they are lying. They may convince the ignorant, but they won’t change the facts.
islam is all about violence, rape, beatings, beheadings, burnings, murder…any and all ways known to man and demon to cause death to humans.
somehistory says
I did not intend to reply to anyone’s comment. 🙂
paul says
Its what they learn in the universities. We need to send in people to report the racism and hate.
c matt says
I guess that CBS poll confirms what we already knew – 7 in 10 Democrats are idiots.
M says
My parents voted democrat for decades. I asked them why. “Because we always have.” Do you even know what they stand for. “No”. So you don’t realize they stand for *the exact opposite* of what you stand for? I went down the list… they had *no idea*… Why? Because dems *never* run on their actual policy… Once my parents eyes were opened, they never voted dem, ever again.
7 in 10 dems are idiots, the other 3 in 10 just have no idea what dems actually DO.
Linda (Ontario,Canada) says
“Much violence is caused by Christians, although…”I’d challenge them to determine how many are ‘so called’ Christians and now many are truly born again by the saving grace of God, through Jesus Christ. Doctrine is the issue…it directs the lives of those of us who are the true church of Jesus Christ.None are perfect of course, but I don’t believe such a sweeping statement for one moment.
David A says
Examples?
Linda (Ontario,Canada) says
David…examples of what? On rereading I wrote “now” instead of “how” many…I apologize for the typo….did that cause your question? I’d like to answer but don’t understand what you are looking for. Regards, Linda
Clae says
ON what Planet has Christianity contributed to much violence? JESUS set the example as He was non violent commanding His followers to do the same as He is our example. If a Christian condones violence killing the innocent… that there is no Christian, but a hypocrite who bears the label Christian that does not adhere to the doctrine of Christ. You cant muster The crusades with Christianity when the Crusaders themselves killed those who stood on the Gospel and would not recant the name of Jesus.
Linda (Ontario,Canada) says
I think we agree Clae..my initial quote was from the article. Blessings in Christ.
Clae says
Oh ok, my apology I do believe I read it in the wrong context, forgive me. Have a super day, God Bless.
Linda (Ontario,Canada) says
No problem:), you too…
Champ says
Look at all of those swamp-things so disgusting. Lets help President Trump “drain the swamp” …
moeped says
They speak the truth…in a galaxy far, far away.
no_one says
I know some bigoted democrat who hates anything related to Christ and Christianity. Otherwise she plays nice and normal, but tell her something good about Christianity or bad about Hillary and she becomes really evil.
jayell says
“…..right-wing extremists” and “white supremacists” were a larger threat to the U.S. than Islamic jihadis. The mainstream media was thrilled. Mediaite crowed: “White Americans Are Biggest Terror Threat in U.S.” The New York Times exulted: “Homegrown Extremists Tied to Deadlier Toll Than Jihadists in U.S. Since 9/11.” The Huffington Post cheered: “White Supremacists More Dangerous To America Than Foreign Terrorists, Study Says.” NPR rejoiced: “Right-Wing Extremists More Dangerous Than Islamic Terrorists In U.S.” TruthDig was thrilled: “White Right-Wing Terrorists Are Biggest Threat to Americans, Study Finds.”
And who said that no-one writes good fairy stories anymore?
So Christianity is as violent as islam, is it? These people must know something the rest of us don’t. Like, for example, the real version of the ‘Lord’s Prayer’? Don’t tell me that we’ve all been labouring under the misapprehension of a false translation all these centuries when it should really be…..
“And forgive us our trespasses as we blow up, maim, kill those unworthy infidels who trespass against us;
And lead us not into temptation, but deliver a bit of evil to those who don’t agree with us….
For ours is anyone else’s Kingdom, their Power and their Social Security and anything we can lay our hands on.including the 72 virgins, for ever and ever or else they’ll know about it…..”
Or that bit in the Beatitudes that got censored…..
“How blest are you when men hate you, when they ouitlaw you and insult you, and ban your very name as infamous, because of the Son of Man. On that day be glad and dance for joy, for you shall shun and curse them and cut off their right hands and left feet……”
And as for what the Good Samaritan actually did the man who had been robbed, because he refused to convert…..(took the rest of his money as jizzya?)
Peter says
Clearly, then, two-thirds of Democrats are irrational.
PRCS says
Two-thirds of democrat rank and file are.
Whether the party’s leaders know what Islam teaches or not, they’re playing the crowd rather well.
Ronald L Johnson says
To me, this poll demonstrates ignorance of Islamist ideology and a poverty of intellect. Studying Islam takes time, and why bother when all they have to do is label somebody an islamophobe. It’s one of those magical words used by the left……misogynist, racist, transphobe, denier, colonialist, imperialist, deplorable, bigot, national socialist (Nazi), oppressor, fascist, sexist, cultural supremacist, hater, homophobe, xenophobe etc., to win an argument.
Kilfincelt says
The Daily Beast article was written by Dean Obeidallah, a Muslim and an Islamic apologist. Unlike Islamic terrorist attacks, those on the right in Europe have had very little to do with religion. He also mentioned Breivik in Norway claiming that his attack was because he was anti-Muslim. Mr. Spencer showed that he was actually a supporter of Islam.
underbed cat says
No surprise to me, I have heard that from all my dem/ liberal friends…some relatives….even after asking have you ever read the Quran, they always reply, no. Do you know about Sharia law.? No. Do you know about the MB? No, Do you know what jihad means? No. Do you know what hijra is? No. Do you know who muslims think the terrorist are?No Do you know why they deny violence verses and say they are misinterpreted? No? Do you know what the terrorist quote? No. But Christians are just as violent……and are white. Do you think hate speech is dangerous, they all say yes. Do you know there are Christians in Syria? Do you know Islam is not a race? No But I know a very nice muslim. But this is a racist country….So there you go. The wall in the mind is thicker than the wall on the border.
gravenimage says
Yes–most of these people *do not want to know* the threat of Islam.
Kay says
Sounds like 95%?of the people I know.
gravenimage says
Sadly true, Kay.
Angemon says
Surprising? Only because it’s not 10/10. Someone who supports Hillary Clinton is clearly out of touch with, or willingly ignorant of, reality.
Walter Sieruk says
What nonsense to say that “Right -wing extremists” other wise know as” White supremacists” are just as must as danger to America as ISIS or Al Qaeda. First, the member of such “White supremacist groups as the “White Aryan Nation” didn’t committed that awful murderous affront which occurred on 9/11 . Even if they wanted to they could not. This is because they as well as members of other similar White race cults don’t have the scheming intelligence the jihadists have .W.A.N and the K K K are people of too low an intelligence to pull off a 9/11. Second, such “White race cults ” are not really Christian but only have a thin outer shall of “Christianity” For example one Klansman leader ,Mark Thomas, calls himself a “Christian” yet when questioned he really didn’t believe in the deity of Jesus..The Bible doctrine that Jesus is God is one of the great foundations of Christianity . As seen in John 1:1-3. First John 5:20. In contrast Islamic terror organizations as Al Qaeda and ISIS have leaders and members who believe in and don’t deny any of the Five Pillars of Islam. In conclusion , those two -thirds of the Democrats who made that fool statement are showing just how little they really understand things, In other words ,they had ,by the own words , exposed their own ignorance.
gravenimage says
The idea that white supremacists or right-wing extremists would like to be as violent as Muslims but lack the intelligence to do so is really questionable. Something like 9/11 took a bit of planning, but many acts of violence do not. If these groups wanted to be as violent as Islam, they would have no trouble doing so.
Walter Sieruk says
To gravenimage, actually in my keyboard message I didn’t say that right -wing extremist members would like to commit a large mass murders, as the jihadists of Al Qaeda did on 9/11 . The point was [if] they want to they are too unintelligent to pull a 9/11 off These R.W.E. are more like a type of armed survivalist group mindset .. As for example in the year 1989 i once talked to a young man who said he was a members of a group called “Christian Patriots” l After listening to what he had to say impressed me that there was really nothing “Christian ” or “patriotic ” about his group.
A more better term or fitting title of his group would be. The “The national Survivalist Front”.
That poor man didn’t seem to understand there no real Christianity in the movement he belonged to
gravenimage says
You’re right, Walter–this guy does not sound like a brain trust. Still, a lot of pious Muslims are thick as bricks themselves, and that doesn’t stop them from being violent. While pulling off an intricate terror attack may involve some brute cunning, at least, any fool can be violent, and often is.
somehistory says
If this lie they are telling was the truth, the beyonce woman would be putting her life in peril…along with the paper in New York with the caption by the singer’s photo, “Mother of God.” It is a disgusting thing, but no Christian will be stalking her or the paper.
Guest says
Are these criminals in Germany and Switzerland Christians? http://www.pi-news.net/2017/02/zschopau-sachsen-15-jaehrige-begrapscht/#more-553768
I haven’t translated all the details. Many women managed to save themselves by threatening the Police and/or fighting back.
Zschopau (Sachsen): Fri evening: A 15 y.o. girl was groped by a man (1,75 -1,80m, dark skin).
Deggendorf: 3. Feb: A 35 y.o. woman’s was hand licked and her bottom groped by man speaking a foreign language: arab/oriental appearance, about 40 y.o, very messy appearance and very smelly body odour.
Lindenberg: Wednesday a 39 y.o. woman’s arm was grabbed by a man speaking w. a foreign accent. He asking if he could kiss her. 20-25, black hair.
Buchloe: A 43 y.o. woman on Thursday was asked by a passing driver about the way to Türkheim. He had opened his trousers and played with his erect member. The driver was about 25, black hair, spoke broken German.
Chemnitz: A 15 y.o. girl on Saturday was approached by a man who grabbed her hand while playing with his displayed genitals. Police soon found him: a Tunesian asylum seeker (37).
Genf: A TV team using a hidden camera showed how a woman in Genf had to run the gauntlet through harassment by several men. The line between flirtation and harassment is narrow [article implies that the men don’t understand that line.]
Nagold: A 22 y.o. Kosovo asylum-seeker is strongly suspected of attempted rape of a 22 y.o. woman on the 24th of December. He followed her (2.30am), beset her, hit her in the face and attacked her massively. She fell on the ground and he tried to pull her trousers down. He had already opened his trousers when her brother [whom she had phoned earlier when she began to feel suspicious of the man] and his friends rescued her. The attacker bit the brother and tread into one friend’s face. Police managed to arrest the suspect.
Geilenkirchen: On 27. Dec a 41 y.o. woman was followed by a young man who passed her and then exposed himself from a doorway. He had black hair and dark skin.
Wetzlar: In the evening of 23.12.2016 a 25 y.o. woman was followed by a man. He then grabbed both her arms, turned her around and rubbed himself on her. She screamed and threatened to call the Police. He let go and claimed in broken German: ‘I did nothing!’ and ran away. [Interesting: anything other than full rape counts as ‘nothing’ to this creep.]
Bad Arolsen: Gestern, 29.12.2016: A 34 y.o. man was arrested, suspected of seriously sexually assaulting a 16 y.o. girl. The event happened in October, on the train from Kassel to Bad Arolsen. He repeatedly touched her indecently and injured her while doing so. He is a 34 Syrian asylum seeker.
gravenimage says
CBS poll: Two-thirds of Democrats say Islam and Christianity are equally violent
………………………
It takes not just ignorance but *willful* ignorance to believe this.
For one thing, conflating Christianity with white supremacism is just grotesque; then there is, as noted, a higher murder count with Islam even when one leaves out 9/11.
But here’s an even more salient point: 63% of the population of the United States is white; less than 1% is Muslim (never mind that these groups also overlap, since Islam is not a race).
So even if Muslims had killed fewer people, they could still be a bigger threat than white supremacists due to simple numbers–while most whites don’t consider themselves white supremacists–I don’t–there still must be more white supremacists than Muslims in the US.
The fact that Muslims–even by these skewed figures–are *still* more violent shows what a threat they represent.
Kay says
Excellent points.
gravenimage says
Thank you, Kay.
Glenn Wilson says
When was the last time you saw anyone other than a Muslim holding a severed head?
Seabird says
Even in places where Christians are at war with muslims, (Nagorno Karabahk-now Artsahk), the Christian forces do not mutilate soldiers and civilians, torture and execute prisoners, use jihadi mercenaries (like Azerbaijan) and they do not exhibit the seething hatred for their enemy like the Azeri muslim forces.
They know their enemy well because they’ve been fighting them in one form or another for over 700 years. As Christians, they regret having to kill but they know if they fail, everything they love and cherish will be mutilated, slaughtered or destroyed (because its happened a thousand times before).
They have no illusions or misconceptions and call what they are forced to do in their own defense, “corrective violence”.
Michael Pope says
There are two types of violence. Offensive and defensive. Offensive is immoral and usually illegal. Defensive violence is both moral and legal…..AND NECESSARY. Violently expansionist Islam practices offensive violence and when it does, it gives up its right to continue to exist. Other religions, including Christianity, have indulged in offensive violence but in modern times mostly practices defensive violence and maintains the moral high ground.
Jason says
Publish a picture of Muhammad and publish a picture of Jesus. See which group will cut off your head and which group will give you art lessons.
Kay says
Good argument. Let’s see if the Democrats can figure that one out!
Transmaster says
I look at the photo at the top of this column and I think to myself if a Jihadist did succeed in blowing themselves up and reducing the above line up to stuff that only the birds would be able to find. It would be a tragedy for sure but in the end we wouldn’t miss any of them and the country would be better without them. And on the plus side maybe the moonbats would at last listen to what those who realize what is going on in Islam are telling the truth.
Guest says
Joyous, no doubt Christian, ‘single events’ from Germany and Switzerland. http://www.pi-news.net/2017/02/zschopau-sachsen-15-jaehrige-begrapscht/#more-553768
I haven’t translated all the details. Many women managed to save themselves by threatening the Police and/or fighting back.
Zschopau (Sachsen): Fri evening: A 15 y.o. girl was groped by a man (1,75 -1,80m, dark skin).
Deggendorf: 3. Feb: A 35 y.o. woman’s was hand licked and her bottom groped by man speaking a foreign language: arab/oriental appearance, about 40 y.o, very messy appearance and very smelly body odour.
Lindenberg: Wednesday a 39 y.o. woman’s arm was grabbed by a man speaking w. a foreign accent. He asking if he could kiss her. 20-25, black hair.
Buchloe: A 43 y.o. woman on Thursday was asked by a passing driver about the way to Türkheim. He had opened his trousers and played with his erect member. The driver was about 25, black hair, spoke broken German.
Chemnitz: A 15 y.o. girl on Saturday was approached by a man who grabbed her hand while playing with his displayed genitals. Police soon found him: a Tunesian asylum seeker (37).
Genf: A TV team using a hidden camera showed how a woman in Genf had to run the gauntlet through harassment by several men. The line between flirtation and harassment is narrow [article implies that the men don’t understand that line.]
Nagold: A 22 y.o. Kosovo asylum-seeker is strongly suspected of attempted rape of a 22 y.o. woman on the 24th of December. He followed her (2.30am), beset her, hit her in the face and attacked her massively. She fell on the ground and he tried to pull her trousers down. He had already opened his trousers when her brother [whom she had phoned earlier when she began to feel suspicious of the man] and his friends rescued her. The attacker bit the brother and tread into one friend’s face. Police managed to arrest the suspect.
Geilenkirchen: On 27. Dec a 41 y.o. woman was followed by a young man who passed her and then exposed himself from a doorway. He had black hair and dark skin.
Wetzlar: In the evening of 23.12.2016 a 25 y.o. woman was followed by a man. He then grabbed both her arms, turned her around and rubbed himself on her. She screamed and threatened to call the Police. He let go and claimed in broken German: ‘I did nothing!’ and ran away. [Interesting: anything other than full rape counts as ‘nothing’ to this creep.]
Bad Arolsen: Gestern, 29.12.2016: A 34 y.o. man was arrested, suspected of seriously sexually assaulting a 16 y.o. girl. The event happened in October, on the train from Kassel to Bad Arolsen. He repeatedly touched her indecently and injured her while doing so. He is a 34 Syrian asylum seeker.
somehistory says
Yes, they seem to be demonstrating just how *peaceful* they are by raping their way across every country where they have been given entrance. pelosi and her friends should go on over where these things are happening and see for themselves…except they already know.
Kay says
Gross.
& it sounds like time for a pussyhat march.
( or deportation)
dumbledoresarmy says
I wonder what would happen if some PEGIDA ladies knitted ‘pussyhats’, but with a difference.
Modified the design so that the hats were tigers (like the one that Kali rides upon) or lions. With TEETH.
Summon up the image of the dreaded ‘vagina dentata’.
And their menfolk would march right alongside them. Not sure what would be an appropriate symbol or costume for the *men* in the Resistance, but I’m sure something could be devised.
gravenimage says
And the rape Jihad continues apace–thanks for the information, Guest.
And a small point–why would a Kosovar Muslim be asking for asylum in Germany? Kosovo is not at war.
Guest says
Precisely. Many of the so-called refugees and asylum seekers are not in danger back in their countries. Furthermore, they have all traveled through safe countries to get to Germany. They lie about their origins, many adult men call themselves minors, many translators collude, many bureaucrats can’t cope, certainly can’t properly vet, let alone keep tabs on these people.
The Anis Amri case is one that at least has been followed and translated by the press. Read it to understand how little power the German authorities have to deal with people wandering into Germany and lying about their origins.
Keep pushing this information about Germany to the White House: Trump’s team needs more proof why letting un-vetted (un-vettable?) muslims into a country is *not* at good idea.
gravenimage says
Yes–the evidence is clear.
Mak says
Well, let’s see. I am neither Christian nor Muslim. So I guess I have a bit of an unbiased view here. One group seems to want peace and the vast majority has no problems with my beliefs. Sure, there was some violent stuff in the distant past — but it’s in the past. It’s history and doesn’t affect me today.
Then there is the group threatening to destroy me and my family. Oh, as well as the Christians. So, umm, yeah… I’m thinking the group asking for death of both Christians and non-Christians alike is probably the more violent one.
I’m curious. Hindus: Are you scared of Christians? How about Muslims. Buddhists: How about you guys? Atheists: How do you feel? Jews: If those of you in Israel could take a small break from defending yourselves for your lives…
The left seems to go out of its way to avoid taking in a single fact that contradicts its insanity. If western civilization falls we can’t blame the muslims 100%; it will be the weakening of the west from within that allows in the muslim hoards to destroy us.
gravenimage says
Good post.
Santa Voorhees says
“Right wing extremist killed 48 from September 12, 2001 to June 2015”.
Are they supposed to balance out the thousands killed by the jihadists?
“’Conservatives claim that all terrorists are Muslim, but most violent attacks in the U.S. are carried out by white men,’” says Salon.
What a stupid statement. Why can’t one be white and muslim at the same time?
Yes, the Left definitely doesn’t care about facts.
Mo says
“Two-thirds of Democrats say Islam and Christianity are equally violent”
Only two-thirds?
I love that they are now being open about it. Ignorant bigots. They’ve read neither the Bible nor the Quran!
Again, I am glad these hypocrites are finally being open about it. I’ve known they felt that way for a long time.
Hypocrites!
Kay says
It sounds like the propaganda machine was effective.
Now, if the Left could give up their
self-righteousness briefly, they might be able to take in some facts.
Oliver says
The brothers in Boston
Boston Marathon bombers. They were white.
What category are they in.
Muslims or white men.
I don’t know if the Fort Hood and Orlando night club massacres were white or not.
Boston dirtbags are counted hiw.
AreYouSerious says
When was the last time a Christian commited a violent crime and screamed “In the name of my lord and saviour Jesus Christ!” And how can you honestly compare them. Obviously there are more whites because there are more whites in the west. And why is race even a part of this. There are white muslims. This isn’t whites vs browns. This is supposed to be Muslims vs Christianity. Islam is a religion not a race. This is rubbish and only proves ignorant people have too much power. These people give me the worst headache…
quota raven says
To Areyouserious, who sez “This is supposed to be Muslims vs Christianity. Islam is a religion not a race.”
No, and no.
This war is muslims versus ALL non-muslims and Western thought. This includes all religions and even atheists, not just Christians.
And Islam is not a religion. It is a theocracy, an aggressive, militant system of governance mandated to establish through invasion and jihad its supremacy throughout the world. “Religion” is only the public face by which jihad is carried out.
Cheers!
quota raven
AreYouSerious says
I am not going to disagree with anything in your post because I totally agree. I was refering to the democrats who so blatantly compare Christianity to Muslims and then switch out Christianity for the white race. That was the point I was making with their idiotic findings.
quota raven says
To Areyouserious – Thanks for clarifying! Cheers! qr
Harry says
Probably true in America that Christians are more violent.
You seem to have left out all the school/college massacres for instance.
Don’t they count as terrorism?
Gun crazed USA.
BTW I not that this site censors comments they don’t like.
Where’s the free speech?
quota raven says
Harry – I find your comment so utterly reprehensible, obnoxious and stupid I’m going to use my free speech to respond.
“Probably true in America that Christians are more violent.
You seem to have left out all the school/college massacres for instance.
Don’t they count as terrorism?”
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Hello? The name of this site is JIHAD WATCH, and its purpose is to do exactly that: watch, investigate and publicize JIHADIST terrorist activities of various natures throughout the world. These murderers on school and college campuses are not jihadists, and they certainly are not Christian simply because they are white. Any more than all the blacks who shoot thousands of other blacks in Chicago are Christians. Call school massacres terrorism if you like. But don’t suggest that it is om any way a “Christian” activity, you moron.
“Gun crazed USA”
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You don’t like guns? Don’t own one. Stay away from them. As for me, I’m an American and MY CONSTITUTION specifically addresses gun ownership, Harry, and until you find a way to alter the Constitution, don’t be a dolt, .
“BTW I not that this site censors comments they don’t like.
Where’s the free speech?”
I’ve been posting comments here fairly regularly for ten years and never had a comment censored in any way. Furthermore, many extremely obnoxious persons (like yourself) are published here without interference.
Cheers!
quota raven
gravenimage says
Harry wrote:
BTW I not (sic) that this site censors comments they don’t like.
Where’s the free speech?
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Jihad Watch is a private site run by Robert Spencer. The idea that he has to provide a platform for everyone or else he is abridging freedom of speech is absolutely false. In that case, he would be violating the rights of ISIS if they wanted to turn the site into a recruiting tool for the Islamic State.
In the free West, you are guaranteed freedom of speech, but you are *not* automatically granted a television station, a radio show, or an internet platform from which to spew your views.
Nomis says
As abhorent as terrorism is, whether Islamic or not, it is but a sideshow. The number of people killed or injured in terrorist attacks is very small compared to conventional warfare. Islamic terrorists are never going to launch a successful coup against any Western government. The real threat is the combination of demographics and democracy. If the Muslim population is allowed to grow then there is the very real prospect that Islamic leaders will be voted into office. Just look at London’s mayor as an example. Once that happens it will only be a matter of time before Sharia is introduced, and and your country becomes Islamic. I cannot believe that our leaders cannot see this, suggesting that they are willfully ignorant … or just plain stupid.
gravenimage says
Jihad terror is still a factor–if the Muslim population reaches a high enough point, it is not just that they will vote in Muslims and appeasing dhimmis–dangerous enough–but that they will eventually violently seize power.
Dr John says
Our Bible says, “Thou shalt not kill.” True Christians do not kill innocent people. Those who follow the strict teachings of Islam are commanded to kill those who do not believe their disgusting faith. I am a Conservative and a devout Christian. It is terrifying that the only world leader who can see the evil of Islam is Trump. All the others, like Teresa May, are doing all they can to ensure that Allah the great Satan dressed in the cloths of the Arabian moon god, will reign over us. The “independent” (but stunted Jewish left wing) Speaker of the UK House of Commons has stopped Trump from addressing them when Trump is on his State Visit to the UK on the basis that Trump is “racist”. Islam is not a “race”. It is, as you all know, an evil, violent, neo-Nazi ideology that has to be stopped before it destroys our world. Trump may not be the most moral human being, but he is all that we have got and he should be encouraged and supported openly and loudly. God bless you Robert Spencer in all your critical work. Please try to get to advise Trump somehow. I love my Muslim neighbours as myself just as I am commanded to do, but I loath and despise their evil faith.
gravenimage says
Dr John wrote:
The “independent” (but stunted Jewish left wing) Speaker of the UK House of Commons has stopped Trump from addressing them when Trump is on his State Visit to the UK on the basis that Trump is “racist”.
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Disgusting, Dr John–I had not heard that. As though not wanting Muslims to murder us is “racist”! Thank you for the information.
Cheesecake says
The best way to prove if Muslims are more violent than Christians is to burn a copy of the Koran and the bible the see which religion kills them first.
You will not have to wait long for the Muslims to turn up.the christian won’t even bother!!
Indian says
Only Muslims are violent animals.
gravenimage says
It’s not that Christians won’t bother–while they abhor Bible burning, they support freedom of speech, including criticism of and even smearing of Christianity.
Indian says
Evil communists they always hate Christians and Hindus. But they never recognize Islamic violence.
duj swami says
They indulge themselves in a tu quoque argument…a logical fallacy…
When a Christian acts up it is in spite of Christianity, not because of it,,,when Muslims act up it is caused by Islam, not in spite of it…
Not one of these useful idiots should be in a position that requires public trust…
Buford says
These Political misfits are more closely aligned to Lucifer-ism While Christianity is not perfect it does not advocate slavery, Sex with 6 year olds, Decapitating people’s heads who disagree with there beliefs, repopulating other countries with
1600 Year Old Beliefs that are based on the teachings of a Liar War Monger, Pedophile, Thief, & Murderer these same politicians back Scuzlims by protecting there sleazy behavior such is the case with permitting them to form Terrorist training camps on US soil.
Badger says
This is sheer ignorance, and in many cases, wilful ignorance and even lying. It takes so little effort to learn what the islamic scriptures teach (an evening’s reading) that I am astonished that these ‘leaders’ and opinion formers refuse to face facts, both current and historical.
My experience of debating these issues with muslims (in London) leads me to believe that most of them have little idea of what their religion commands.
Perhaps a couple of decades ago this would have been a problem but with the ability of the smartphone to present scriptural evidence to the deniers it becomes much more problematic for these people. But then, faith is irrational, how can you reason with an irrational person?
dumbledoresarmy says
“My experience of debating these issues with muslims (in London) leads me to believe that most of them have little idea of what their religion commands.”
Or they are *pretending* not to know… playing dumb.
Have these debates happened in private (one on one) or in situations where most of the people listening in are Infidels?
If there’s an infidel audience, the Muslim response, when ugly aspects of Islam are exposed by someone like you, *can* be denial – “I don’t know what you’re talking about”. “It doesn’t say that”. Because uninformed Infidels will assume that someone who practises a religion (especially an exotic religion such as Islam) will be better-informed about it than an ‘outsider’, and so they will take it for granted that when a Muslim says, “no it doesn’t say that’ or ‘that isn’t Islam’, the Muslim is **telling the truth** and that *you* are making things up or getting it wrong. They wil NOT ask themselves whether the *Muslim* might be … lying, denying, stonewalling.
Sophie says
Democrats have been brainwashed by the leaders they worship. They obviously have not done ANY research for themselves on the truth. I knew it was bad but that there are that many Liberals who are willing to be deceived so easily & believe whatever they are told is astonishing.
CrankyWW says
Two-thirds of Democrats are even more stupid than I thought,
Jimdandi says
Most atheists believe that all religions are equally evil and potentially dangerous. They make no differentiation between biblical Christianity, nominal Christianity and Islam, etc. Would be quite simple to examine and compare/contrast the life’s histories of Jesus and Mohammad. That would give them some clue that there is a huge difference between biblical Christianity and Islam. However, they don’t seem interested in really knowing truth since it doesn’t jive with their narrative.
quota raven says
to Jimdandi, who opines, “Most atheists believe that all religions are equally evil and potentially dangerous.”
As a lapsed Episcopalian and self-styled atheist myself, I don’t think this statement is fair to atheists. With the exception of Islam, I respect all the religions I am aware of and see the function they fulfill and the general good they do as providers of moral codes and prescriptions for behavior throughout the world. Sometimes I even envy those who are able to fully embrace a religion. I revere the teachings of Christianity, even if not able to make the required “leap of faith”. I don’t talk about religion very often, but I’d wager that there are many atheists out there who feel the same way and are not hostile to religion in general, atheists who recognize Islam as wicked and exceptional..Would you, for example, equate jihad with missionaries?
Islam, an evil and repressive theocracy, is indeed a horse of a different color, and cannot be equated or really “compared” with any world religion. Apples and oranges.
Cheers!
quota raven
JS says
This is actually a partial but open confession from the left and Muslims that Islam is indeed a religion of violence. It’s as if they’re saying, “OK, we, muslims, committed some acts of violence, but so do you!” That’s a confession!
John A. Marre says
Have anything to do with the fact that the Democrat party has welcomed so many into the country?
Troybeam says
Ask a democrat how many Christians have slaughtered people for religious reasons verse how many Muslims have slaughtered people for not accepting Islam, speaking the truth of Islam, for being Gay, for just being different, the only answer you will get is a rant and rave of nonsense that will have zero intelligence behind it and then they will walk away thinking they put you in your place.
common sense says
CBS? – Couldn’t. Be. Stupider.
UNCLE VLADDI says
Where in other (Christian, Jewish, Buddhist, Hindu etc) texts does it say things like this?
Right in the Qur’an is: the permission to murder Jews and Christians (Surah 9:29), to terrorize all non-Muslims (8:12), to rape young girls (65:4), to enslave people for sex (4:3), to lie about one’s true goals (3:54), and the command to make war on all the infidels (9:123) and subjugate the entire world to Allah (9:33).
linnte says
As our country slips farther and farther away from our Christian roots, I for one am so thankful to have FOUND Jesus. Comparing Christianity with Islam equally shows how sucked into the liberal narrative they are. Maybe this will get some of these folks to actually READ the Gospel and the Qur’an.
More Ham Ed says
30271 deadly documented islamic terror attacks since 9/11.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
2000 ISLAMIC terror attacks for every “other” category worldwide.
2000 to 1.
Also, Robert Spencer’s book:
“Religion of Peace?: Why Christianity Is and Islam Isn’t”
https://www.amazon.com/Religion-Peace-Christianity-Islam-Isnt/dp/1596985151
quota raven says
To Ed – Regarding “30271 deadly documented islamic terror attacks since 9/11>”
Is this worldwide? Or in the USA?
Cheers!
quota raven