It is so refreshing to see this realism and common sense after eight years of Obama’s denial and willful ignorance.
“Flynn’s plan to beat radical Islam starts with schools and social media,” by Paul Sperry, New York Post, February 4, 2017:
President Trump’s national security adviser wants to fight not just Islamic terrorists but the “radical ideology of Islam,” and he plans to do it from the grass roots up, starting with our children at schools while also using social media.
Dealing with the global Islamist threat on a tactical level through drone strikes and arrests hasn’t worked, retired Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn argues, according to his largely overlooked 2016 book, “The Field of Fight: How We Can Win the Global War Against Radical Islam and Its Allies.” He wants to combat it more broadly, using informational warfare, among other things, on a scale not seen since World War II.
But first, he writes, the government has to overcome the political taboo of tying Islamic violence to the religion of Islam, including its sacred texts, which he says the enemy is using as a manual of warfare….
“If we can’t tackle enemy doctrines that call for our domination or extinction,” Flynn writes, “we aren’t going to destroy their jihadis.”…
“It’s long past time for us to denounce the many evils of Radical Islam,” he writes, while highlighting the many defeats of ISIS and al Qaeda to show potential recruits that “the Almighty has changed sides in the holy war.”Fired by former President Barack Obama from the Defense Intelligence Agency for taking such stands, Flynn vows to reverse the longstanding government practice of whitewashing the violent nature of the enemy’s faith through pleasant platitudes like, “The terrorists are hijacking a religion of peace” and other apologia. He calls such policies “Islamophilia,” and complains they border on appeasement.
“I firmly believe that Radical Islam is a tribal cult, and must be crushed,” he writes.
In his book, Flynn says the Islamist enemy studies our culture “very carefully” and excels at “identifying our weaknesses,” while we, on the other hand, have done very little to exploit weak points in their ideology. We suffer pangs of guilt just “calling them by name and identifying them as fanatical killers acting on behalf of a failed civilization.”
That “failed civilization,” he notes, is Islam, and he says the government must publicly point out its failures, from depressed economies to high illiteracy rates to oppression of women, while supporting “a complete reformation of the Islamic religion” throughout the Muslim world.
He suggests working closely with the president of Egypt, who has called for a renewal of Islam. He also praises reforms pushed by Singapore to convince Muslims that there’s no requirement to follow Sharia in a secular state and that Allah hasn’t blessed jihad against the West. He also cites the half dozen countries that have banned Islamic headscarves around the world.
“We’ve got to get inside the minds of the jihadis” and understand the doctrinal justification for “the cult of killing, the worship of death” and why they, literally, “eagerly drink the blood of their dying enemies,” Flynn writes. What in their scripture brainwashes them into thinking, “We love death more than you love life?” Once that doctrine is exposed, it can be undermined to the point where it loses its potency….
“The war against Radical Islamists must begin at home,” he writes. “Muslims want to apply Sharia law by using our own legal system to strengthen what many believe to be a violent religious law that has no place in the United States,” he writes, adding the government must stop implying Islamic and Western civilizations “are morally equivalent.”“Let us accept what we were founded upon: a Judeo-Christian ideology built on a moral set of rules and laws,” he writes. “Let us not fear, but instead fight those who want to impose Sharia law and their Radical Islamist views.”…
“We can’t win this war by treating Radical Islamic terrorists as a handful of crazies and dealing with them as a policing issue,” he writes. “The political and theological underpinnings of their immoral actions have to be demolished.”

miriamrove says
About time! M
jihad3tracker says
HELLO MIRIAM — I have read your terrific comments for several years, but this is my first reply.
As a 68 year old FORMER LIFELONG DEMOCRAT, who went through the American school system from kindergarten to high school, I assure every reader here at Jihad Watch that Flynn’s plan will certainly be opposed by TEACHER UNIONS WITH THE BACKING OF TREASONOUS MUSLIM ORGANIZATIONS INCLUDING CAIR.
We should expect every Leftist elected official at federal and state levels — also county-by-county — to push back against telling the truth about Islam. My prediction is that this attempt to expose Allah’s agenda for subjugation and violence will become a HUGE extended battle.
Westman says
Finally, truth about the underpinnings of jihad violence! Let the HUGE battle begin. At least the liberals will be unable to continue emotional name-calling in place of study and awareness of Islam’s ideology. When real discussion is everywhere, their ignorance will be as obvious as Pelosi referring to Trump as “President Bush”.
Kenneth Olson says
I thank God every day for Mike Flynn.
Pastor C says
I could not agree with you more.
The leftist global agenda is being threatened at its core by this strategic course of offensive action, proposed by this courageous and patriotic administration, more now than ever before.
From ‘slick Willie’ Clinton through the treasonous Barry/Hillary administration, our nation’s leaders failed, miserably, to respond to this evil and malicious threat to the entirety of Western civilization.
What the Trump administration is doing, now (by instituting this policy and many others soon to come) should have been done decades ago.
I pray the old adage, ‘Better late than never!’ still applies here. If not, the ‘handwriting I see on the wall’ suggests rather ominous ramifications for such egregious and prolonged neglect.
Lion of Judah's Cub says
The military industrial congressional complex fed the beast called islam in order to spread chaos, conflict and to create a market for their military equipment (often sold to both sides). Taxpayer money was used to arm various opposing factions including the “rebels” in Syria (also known as Al-queada or ISIS or ISIL). It is not a mere coincidence that approx. $500 million worth of brand new US military equipment gifted to Iraq was abandoned by the Iraqi army to the ISIS rag tag team of invaders (approx. 8000) in June 2014.
Shalom says
This is heaven to my ears! Feels so unreal that we are hearing words like this. What hope this administration brings – when I think how nightmarish it would have been if Hillary had won, it makes me shudder.
carol says
Thank God Hillary got past her prime and her cup overflowed with corruption for all but the sense-deprived to see and to smell. And a special thanks to Wikileaks and such.
Cicero says
Hurrah! It does not matter that the PC brigade will mount a fierce attack. At least the whited sepulchre is being opened . Let the putrid stench of lies generated by the enemies of Truth be blown away by this clean and fresh breeze!
Hurrah!
Stephanie says
jihadis, to jihadi no. 1 http://quran.com/2/216 http://quran.com/4/76 8/39 9/29 9/111 48/1-28 4/101
Oliver says
What will the NYT and NPR and Washington Post say.
Their panties are tied up in knots
The truth is spoken. How unreal
Frank says
This is what John Swinton said about the press
“There is no such thing, at this date of the world’s history, in America, as an independent press. You know it and I know it. There is not one of you who dares to write your honest opinions, and if you did, you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid weekly for keeping my honest opinion out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for similar things, and any of you who would be so foolish as to write honest opinions would be out on the streets looking for another job. If I allowed my honest opinions to appear in one issue of my paper, before twenty-four hours my occupation would be gone.
The business of the journalist is to destroy the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of mammon, and to sell his country and his race for his daily bread. You know it and I know it, and what folly is this toasting an independent press?
We are the tools and vessels of rich men behind the scenes. We are the jumping jacks, they pull the strings and we dance. Our talents, our possibilities and our lives are all the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes.”
John Swinton
New York Times, 1880
D-spot says
So refreshing. Plain speaking and common sense. Politicians: take note!
Schrödinger says
National Security Advisor Flynn is one the favourite targets of the enemedia, let alone the likes of Huffington Post, which, on cue, goes berserk at any mere mention of his name.
And it’s not hard to see why — he speaks the truth about Islam. The exact opposite from that previous Administration under Obama’s fake Presidency.
Mark D says
“enemedia” I like that!
underbed cat says
Naming the enemy was something that Obama would never do, he couldn’t utter the words….cleverly following sharia law, wihout the awareness of nearly half the population that he it knew..and was protecting the doctrine of islam that very few know anything about the commands that directs and explains jihad.
General Flynn’s addressing the need to stop dangerous promotion in schools and social media to influence children and young adults clearly is needed, since it is also related to darwah. Muslim student associations are located on nearly every campus…as mis- information warfare when needed…students and politicians and apparently the media…for those who need facts..not fantasy.
David Grisez says
Our new national security adviser has a much better approach to dealing with the problem of Radical Islam that is refreshing after 8 years of President Obama. However it will take some time to change the direction that the United States uses in handling this problem of Islam, and our new President Donald Trump will face a lot of opposition from Democrats in congress that are still holding on to the President Obama philosophy and are sore losers over the fact that their choice, Hilary Clinton lost the election.
Somebody says
Such a brave person.
Pal says
Yeah.
Mac-101 says
G-d bless this great American Warrior and protect his family! These Demonic Scum will attack the weakest link! TEN points to Trump for Appointing him!
Alarmed Pig Farmer says
“I firmly believe that Radical Islam is a tribal cult, and must be crushed,”
Given that there is no such tribal cult, General Flynn is going pretty easy on himself. Nothing like setting the bar low, but this is lying on the floor.
Jerry says
I think you are crucifying his description “tribal cult” for no good reason. Let’s rejoice in his contemptuous but accurate understanding of that sick and evil thing called “islam.” This comment of yours, not your usual best.
Alarmed Pig Farmer says
Let’s rejoice in his contemptuous but accurate understanding of that sick and evil thing called “islam.”
There is no such thing as Radical Islam. It’s not even possible for it to exist. The mass murderers and those who threaten the same are normative Islam. It’s all right there in the Holy Ko-Ran, the Hah-Deaths, the sacralized histories, the whole ball of was.
carol says
They say Flynn knows the enemy well and it’s probably best not to arouse ALL the potential opposing forces. Instead start by crippling the major organs of the beast – one of which is the ludicrous “holy” warrior game.
Presented with the full picture youthful minds should automatically “climb out of the ditch on their own” and gravitate in the direction of the light.
Daniel Triplett says
“I firmly believe Islam must be crushed.”
This is what he should have said, and that he didn’t, and has such a high ranking post concerns me too.
He also said: “a complete reformation of the Islamic religion” is needed. That’s like trying to remove stink from shit. Apparently he didn’t read about Islamic Blasphemy and Heresy Laws which make any kind of reformation impossible.
He also seems to believe that this is an educational change the hearts and minds of Muslims strategy that we need. But that part comes second. They already know how we feel about Islam and its foolishness. They have Internet. They live among us. But they don’t care, because they’re winning the war.
Step one is for us to start winning this war, and that only comes by proving to them by killing X number (lots) of them that they can’t win. Between 3 and 21 nuke strikes would be very effective toward this objective. This will also scare the devil out of them, remind them that Kaffirs are superior, and confirm to them Allah will never save them.
THEN they’ll listen to how grossly flawed their ideology is, and listen to alternatives we have to offer that will bring them peace. That’s basically how all wars have been waged, and won, for millennia.
That all said, at least he can ID the enemy.
mousey says
daniel,
his idea is not to try to change muslims’ hearts and minds with education, his idea is to rescue the hearts and minds of our own children, who apparently are being taught islam is peaceful and just as good as any other culture…..Ooh! lets have hijab day so we can have better understanding…. Ooh! jihad really means inner struggle to be a good person……
We’re being played. If we’re ever going to educate our kids on the truth of islam, we adults need to take the time to read the koran, some of the hadiths, reliance of the traveller, watch some memritv, watch some sweden/germany/france etc videos, so we know what we’re talking about.
The most dangerous jihadists are not the killers. The most dangerous jihadists are the infiltrators, wolves in sheep’s clothing, who are attacking our universities, laws, media, thoughts….without us even knowing it.
gravenimage says
Good post.
Daniel Triplett says
Likely that’s what he meant, and to that end, he’s right on that one point.
I’m not sure how old a Kaffir child must be before it’s appropriate to tell him we’re in a zero-sum World War between a clash of two civilizations, with just one winner.
Telling our children: The Ummah wants to do horrible things like rape you, your brothers and sisters, and your mother all in front of me, then slice my head off with a dull blade. Or perhaps they’ll drive a tractor trailer over you and your friends at the playground, flattening all of your bodies while your brains fly out of your exploding heads.
They need to know the truth at some point. And we must never lie to them.
The problem with Flynn is he’s not telling us the follow-on. Suppose we educate every Kaffir on Earth that Islam is evil and must be eradicated. Then what? The Ummah won’t change.
We’re in a zero-sum World War between two civilizations. 1.6 Billion Islamic adherents want the rest of us converted or dead. Steve Bannon has the intellect and balls to say it out loud. Why can’t Flynn? Does he just not get it? He appears to see part of the problem, but he articulates no solution whatsoever.
A strategic solution is what we desperately need. Obama waged a half-ass Tactical war with no end in sight. What we need is a Strategic war, bringing a permanent end to the conflict with rapid victory for us.
This conflict will only be reconciled with violence waged on a Biblical scale. We can either spend $Quadrillions over the next century fighting an unwinnable conventional military campaign, sacrificing millions of Kaffirs (both civilian and military) and still lose the war.
Or
We can use our nuclear weapons as they were meant to be used, and be victorious Worldwide within 3 – 6 months, for $10 Billion US, with near-zero Kaffir casualties.
This is the cold, hard truth. I’m a 22 year USAF Officer and 6 year Islamic War vet, and were I POTUS, here’s what I’d do:
https://medium.com/@dantriplett/islamic-jihad-is-total-war-for-all-marbles-6c858098b76e#.3thep7ot6
carol says
Right mousey, in difficult times we all need mental solidarity and group reinforcement and Trump/Flynn have given a crucial thumbs up to the lucid audience. Now to kick out a clear path for the stumbling young’uns.
Certainly Al Azhar and its rigid imams need to be dealt some kind of death blow but Christian ideals tell us to hold off on the nukes. Hopefully “cultural” Muslims with nonmalignant personal exegeses will begin to appreciate what must be done even if they’re not quite ready to totally abandon the leaky ship.
Daniel Triplett says
@carol
“Christian ideals tell us to hold off on the nukes.”
Huh?
Where did you get that idea Carol? I’m a Christian, and I didn’t see that part in The Bible. Are you saying our grandfathers were sinners, or somehow un-Christian for the way they defeated Japan? Would you have preferred they stormed the beaches of mainland Japan, costing us another 1,000,000 US KIA (and 2,000,000 Japanese lives), because in your mind that’s how Jesus Christ would want it done?
The OIC has 57 nations. We just spent 16 years, $6.5 Trillion US, and sacrificed over 6500 of our finest and bravest Americans, trying to control just TWO of the 57 Islamic countries. What did we gain? What did we accomplish? We didn’t accomplish jack shit. Iraq and Afghanistan are far worse now than the day we first set foot there. I spent 6 years in that fight, watching a lot of good men die, and it broke my heart. Their families will suffer with inconsolable pain the rest of their lives for nothing.
Dar al-Islam is a 3000 mile wide swath stretching from Morocco to the Philippines. That’s not counting the 10’s of Millions of Ummah living among us, convincing the Useful Idiots they’re our friends.
I think you’re a bit mixed up on how Christ wants us to handle this mess. God gave us the intellect and resources to build nuclear weapons for a reason; to destroy evil. Do you believe Satan gave us the intellect and resources to build those weapons?
We’re not in Iraq or Afghanistan anymore because the majority of American civilians lost the Will to Fight. War is a Battle of Wills. The first side that loses the Will to Fight loses the War.
So please tell me where we’re going to get the money, conventional military, time, and the WILL to invade, conquer, and indefinitely occupy 57 Muslim countries. It’s not going to happen Carol. Get real.
As Gen Curtis LeMay said, architect of the Strategic Area Bombing campaign, “Let me tell you what war is about. It’s about killing people. If you kill enough of them, they stop fighting.”
LeMay also said, “There are no innocent civilians. It is their government and you are fighting a people, you are not trying to fight an armed force anymore. So it doesn’t bother me so much to be killing the so-called innocent bystanders.”
And here’s one more from LeMay, Commander, USAF Strategic Air Command; our longest serving 4-Star in history:
“I think there are many times when it would be most efficient to use nuclear weapons. However, the public opinion in this country and throughout the world throw up their hands in horror when you mention nuclear weapons, just because of the propaganda that’s been fed to them. As far as casualties were concerned I think there were more casualties in the first attack on Tokyo with incendiaries than there were with the first use of the atomic bomb on Hiroshima. The fact that it’s done instantaneously, maybe that’s more humane than incendiary attacks, if you can call any war act humane. I don’t, particularly, so to me there wasn’t much difference. A weapon is a weapon and it really doesn’t make much difference how you kill a man. If you have to kill him, well, that’s the evil to start with and how you do it becomes pretty secondary. I think your choice should be which weapon is the most efficient and most likely to get the whole mess over with as early as possible.”
This is longstanding US strategy we’ve even used on our own people. Gen William T. Sherman: “War is cruelty. There is no use trying to reform it. The crueler it is, the sooner it will be over.” Remember his scorched Earth “March to the Sea?”
Here’s a quote from our allied friend, Sir Arthur Harris, commander of RAF Bomber Command during WWII:
“The Nazis entered this war under the rather childish delusion that they were going to bomb everyone else, and nobody was going to bomb them. At Rotterdam, London, Warsaw and half a hundred other places, they put their rather naive theory into operation. They sowed the wind, and now they are going to reap the whirlwind.
the aim of the Combined Bomber Offensive…should be unambiguously stated [as] the destruction of German cities, the killing of German workers, and the disruption of civilised life throughout Germany.
… the destruction of houses, public utilities, transport and lives, the creation of a refugee problem on an unprecedented scale, and the breakdown of morale both at home and at the battle fronts by fear of extended and intensified bombing, are accepted and intended aims of our bombing policy. They are not by-products of attempts to hit factories.”
This is how wars are fought and won Carol.
As a war veteran, I’m insulted that you believe our Lord Jesus Christ makes a moral distinction between nuclear, incendiary, and TNT bombs. What you’re implying about those of us charged with using nuclear weapons is appalling.
Nuclear weapons offer the fastest, most humane way to end this war. They yield minimum casualties for the bad guys, and zero casualties for the good guys. What could be more Christian than that? Take a long walk through Arlington National Cemetery Section 60, and see if you feel the same way.
Lion of Judah's Cub says
Actually a strategic bombing campaign vs Mecca would bring an end to the lie of islam; no nukes are needed just conventional weapons. As others have stated, give the inhabitants 12 hours notice (or less) to evacuate.
But the Bible predicts the end of Mecca through what is likely a nuclear strike by Iran. Watch Walid Shoebat video re: “Babylon the great is fallen, fallen…” (Revelation 18:2).
mousey says
@Daniel
Thank you for your service.
One problem we can’t forget is the enemy within. The MB, their crews, and american’s who don’t like america are all over the place, in the gov’t, in the media, in the universities, in arms manufacturers…. Look at what’s happened by just trying to temporarily slow immigration until vetting can get better. Look what happened when yiannopoulous tried to give a little talk at berkeley… If you had trump decide to bomb, the u.s. will go into crisis. It will be everyone defending themselves, we’ll be syria. First we have to educate our people—fast, then we have to get rid of as many threats in the u.s.as possible so we can act as one people, to defend liberty.
gravenimage says
Lion of Judah’s Cub wrote:
Actually a strategic bombing campaign vs Mecca would bring an end to the lie of islam…
………………..
I’m not sure why so many seem to believe that Islam would come to an end if the Ka’aba were bombed; I don’t think it would lead to any such thing. Muslims would just have a new “grievance”.
Daniel Triplett says
@gravenimage
Yes.
Bombing the Kaaba would have the same effect as bombing the Vatican, Westminster Abbey, St. Paul’s Cathedral, the US National Cathedral, Notre Dame, etc.
It would just piss a whole lot of Christians off, and have the opposite effect of making us cower. This would make us want to get some serious payback ASAP.
Bombing the Kaaba comes much later in the war, during the final end stages of Islam, to demoralize them after their loss of the war becomes obvious to them.
Daniel Triplett says
…at the same point we begin bulldozing and razing to the ground every mosque and madrasa on Earth.
Then we destroy the Kaaba.
Debi Brand says
“’a complete reformation of the Islamic religion’ is needed. That’s like trying to remove stink from shit. ”
Indeed, DT,
Well said, across the board.
Daniel Triplett says
Thank you Sister. Stay strong.
gravenimage says
You are both right–Islam is unreformable.
Dajjal says
Air freshioner will not solve this problem. Allah’s word is given and accepted as perfected. How do you improve on perection? What can you do to perfection other than defile it?
The Koran explicitly says that Allah’s turd can not be changed. Moe cursed anyone who would try it.
In my post, subsequent to yours, I linked to my pdf which documents the impossibility of reforming the war cult.
Debi Brand says
Indeed, DT.
So too, g-i and dajjal.
gravenimage says
Islam cannot be reformed, but it *can* be defended against.
Dajjal says
REad pages 58-60 of “The Quranic Concept Of War”. Page 60 explains why your method will not work. No shock & awe can cut the mustard until they quit believing.
Daniel Triplett says
Sounds like an interesting book. I’ll look for it.
But the strategy is timeless and sound. Besides, there’s no other choice. You can’t “make them stop believing” until you kill lots and lots of them, sowing doubt in their own minds about the veracity of their ideology.
For people who murder their own children to please their “deity,” and love death more than life, this means we must kill them in staggering numbers.
You won’t talk them into not believing. We’ve seen time and again that diplomacy with the Ummah is a fool’s errand. The fear of violence must come first, and they won’t fear the violence unless we actually show and shock them with it.
Debi Brand says
“You won’t talk them into not believing. We’ve seen time and again that diplomacy with the Ummah is a fool’s errand. The fear of violence must come first, and they won’t fear the violence unless we actually show and shock them with it.”
You are spot on there, D.T.
As many of our Warriors in this war have known and stated: “Back-cloth” “Mural” and Reflections of the making of Inaugural Day, 20 January 2017
http://islamexposed.blogspot.com/2017/01/back-cloth-mural-and-reflections-of.html
Daniel Triplett says
I appreciate the supportive words DB, and thanks for the great link. I didn’t know about that site.
The words said on that site are poignant and so true.
Nice work Sister Soldier.
gravenimage says
Actually, Dajjal, we *have* beaten back Islam before. But we have to be consistent and resolute about it.
carol says
@ Daniel Triplett
I think you exaggerate what I’ve said in order to “let off steam” and/or guilt. The good side is that your display of knowledge and opinion will give others food for thought. I was realizing even as I typed my benign little piece that everything is RELATIVE. You are a warrior and you certainly have the right to your perspective and most will be unable to judge it. Hopefully nature isn’t planning to get rid of this “failed experiment” called mankind by giving us bigger and better toys.
Curtis LeMay rings a bell, wasn’t he often opposed to JFK policies? Vietnam perhaps? I visited the graves in Arlington and got a good case of blisters.
Daniel Triplett says
@carol
“Christian ideals tell us to hold off on the nukes.”
I quoted YOUR words precisely Carol, and exaggerated nothing.
I promise you, I feel ZERO “guilt” about my war service or anything I did during it. Nor did any other servicemen I ever knew.
What we felt was resentment at the unwinnable, often suicidal ROE with which the POTUS and SECDEF hamstrung us. We wanted to do a lot more killing, not less.
I noticed you offered no alternatives whatsoever to a nuclear strategy of winning the Islamic War. There aren’t any, but I’m listening if you want to pontificate.
Gen Curtis LeMay’s main conflict was with McNamara and LBJ. Near the beginning of the conflict, LeMay advocated Strategic Area Bombing around the clock until surrender. The same way we won WWII. The Kennedy and LBJ Administrations refused, opting instead for a “flexible response” strategy that gave the enemy a way out, and never used disproportionate force against them.
LeMay thought flexible response was counterintuitive; it ran completely against his doctrine of war. If a war is not worth winning, LeMay’s answer was simple: do not get involved in the first place. Consequently, as LeMay watched the troop levels expand along with U.S. casualties, he grew more and more angry. The focal point of that anger was McNamara. As the conflict dragged on, he also grew furious with Lyndon Johnson because he believed McNamara and LBJ lied to the American people about the war. While the Vietnam War deeply divided the country, it would create major fissures within the government as well.
Ten years and 59,000 American lives later, the U.S., under Nixon, did exactly what LeMay had suggested. From December 19 to 29, 1972, the Air Force and Navy conducted Linebacker II, the largest concentrated bombing since World War II. The bombing of the North Vietnamese capital, Hanoi, and the port of Haiphong was conducted by tactical fighters, along with 741 B-52 sorties.
Linebacker II brought the NVA to their knees.
Nixon had a plan to end the war by stationing 36 B-52s as Andersen AFB, Guam, then bomb the NVA if they marched South. This plan would’ve worked, but by this point in the war, public pressure upon their legislators made Capitol Hill cut off funding for the Guam operation. The rest is history.
Now that you’ve visited Arlington, you can better appreciate the choices we have. We can either fill up square miles of cemetery with dead Patriots, or we can use standoff ordnance to preserve their lives. For most all military commanders, this is a very easy choice.
Debi Brand says
“What we felt was resentment at the unwinnable, often suicidal ROE with which the POTUS and SECDEF hamstrung us.”
Indeed, D.T.
Moreover, continue on, speaking to it–do so for every Warrior’s voice who stated the same, knew the same, suffered the same betrayal of a nation, whose voice, whose statements, are now, only heard when/if “we” speak for them.
Daniel Triplett says
@Debi Brand
Absolutely DB. In this day and age of the Internet, blogs, social media, the POTUS on Twitter all day offering us access to him, the ability to Email thousands in just a few seconds (including Capitol Hill), WE are the soldiers for change, and to sit back and do nothing during a World War when our Civilization is at stake is unacceptable.
I love Jihad Watch, and am among Robert Spencer’s most loyal fans; however, in addition to commenting on his site, we must take what we learn from him, think about solutions to the war, and spread the word WAY beyond this Comments Section.
There are so many Useful Idiots out there needing an education of the threat.
carol says
@Daniel Triplett:
I still think you’ve unfairly jumped on me as your “sounding board” There are some bible-thumpers on this site but I’m not quite one of them. And understanding the “armoury” is really not my bag.
My point however was that it’s a Christian IDEAL e.g. to follow the Golden Rule and “do unto others as you would have them do unto you” (yes – the near joke is that if the Muzzies had nukes they’d have been flying at us long before now).
You seem very erudite on the subject – but the many civilians are just hoping no one hits the panic button too soon and too hard. But, we do what we can AFFORD to do.
Daniel Triplett says
@carol
“Christian ideals tell us to hold off on the nukes.”
For starters, FWIW, I don’t dislike you Carol, and have respect for you as someone who understands the threat, and is trying to make a contribution to our victory. So, no hard feelings. I hope we can exchange ideas as allies in the future.
The words above were yours Carol, and words matter. I’m not trying to use you as a sounding board. The words you chose are strong, and invoke deep emotional and intellectual responses from those who read them. Getting people on board with nuking other peoples is tough to accept for many. Don’t make it even more difficult for them to accept the only solution available.
I’m trying to explain to you, and possibly those whom you’ve influenced as thinking that nukes aren’t the answer, that nukes ARE the answer.
You have offered no alternative strategy to a nuclear campaign, because there isn’t one. I’ve spent at least four posts trying to explain this to you, and if you haven’t read my more expansive essay, please spend about 10 minutes doing so. [Link at bottom]
Please also know that I often poll test this essay below on Twitter. Thousands read it, and hundreds vote. 75 – 85% of all respondents always vote “Yes” to the question: “Do you agree with my strategy.” Please keep that in mind when you read it. It’s the answer, and there’s nothing crazy about it.
I didn’t just pull this strategy out of my ass. Every Major and above learns these strategies in the USAF and other branches. They’re timeless, and have been used for millennia. That’s why we still do it. The only thing that’s changed is the efficiency of weapons we have. We’re no longer limited to swords or muskets. We have nuclear weapons now. In the end, they save lives. They don’t destroy the World. That’s just false propaganda that you’ve been fed your whole life. These weapons will save our Civilization. Speaking as a 21 year USAF Officer and 6 year war vet, please believe me when I tell you, they will save our lives, and they’re our only option.
We’ve tried conventional, and it’s just not enough for the foe we face. Please read the essay.
Why would you suggest that using the most effective weapons to solve this crisis is somehow evil or un-Christianlike? Imagine the message you send your readers.
Less than 1% of Americans serve in the military. So, as far as insults go, you’re insulting the very few military officers who would ever “push the button.” What they’re doing when they push that button is saving Western Civilization. How about supporting them, instead of suggesting they’re on the opposite side of Jesus Christ? Can you see how offensive that is to the entire military? The military kills lots and lots of people. That’s our job. We do it to preserve Liberty for people like you and your family. Please be careful with the words you choose.
Daniel Triplett says
@carol
I forgot to paste this link to my last post Carol. I knew I was going to forget, and I did.
Please read this. I think you’ll feel a bit different after reading it. Most do.
https://medium.com/@dantriplett/islamic-jihad-is-total-war-for-all-marbles-6c858098b76e#.3thep7ot6
Lesley says
I think if we make Dabiq, Syria into a strip mall full of fast food restaurants (Dabiq plays a key role in Muslim, end times eschatology) and destroy Mecca and the black stone, criminalize the practice of Islam and cut off trade with all countries who don’t, that would put us ahead.
Also, if we have to occupy another land for anyone’s safety, we’re taking their resources in payment.
Daniel Triplett says
“criminalize the practice of Islam and cut off trade with all countries who don’t”
I like your attitude. Trade sanctions are a bit impotent, or at least too slow IMO. A better approach would be the threat of a random nuke strike if they don’t criminalize Islam. We’d get much faster results that way.
Remember, Iran has spent many years on sanctions, and it didn’t slow their nuke weapons program.
Also, N Korea was the most isolated country on Earth for decades. Last year, they tested their first H-Bomb, and now have 40 warheads. They’ve also launched two satellites into Low Earth Orbit, and have demonstrated the capability to launch 2500 mile range missiles from submerged submarines.
So, isolationism and trade sanctions don’t work to the level we fantasize they do.
“Also, if we have to occupy another land for anyone’s safety, we’re taking their resources in payment.”
Amen Lesley. Couldn’t agree with you more.
Why are we allowing people who seek our extinction to control 2/3 of the World’s oil, a commodity we need for our survival?
Islam has declared war on us, whether or not we’ve acknowledged that fact and declared war back.
But let’s face it, we are in a war with Islam which the Ummah started 1400 years ago, and now seems to be coming to a head with the massive success of al-hijrah and the Iranian nuke weapons program.
So let’s take the oil for ourselves. Besides, the West discovered it, the West extracted it, and the West developed it. The Muslims had no idea how to do that themselves. Were it not for the West, the oil producing Muslim states would still be living in tents and pissing in the sand.
Someone’s going to get nuked soon. We can either be stupid about it and watch Tel Aviv, Manhattan, or DC get vaped, or we can strike first to prevent that.
When someone is pointing a loaded gun at you, you’re not required to wait for him to pull the trigger before killing him first.
somehistory says
“We’ve got to get inside the minds of the jihadis”
Police officers who solve crimes, get inside the minds of criminals. If one knows how another person thinks, one can know what that person will do, what drives that one, what motivates.
There are already people who know how moslims *think* and what motivates them. This man has available resources to assist him in fighting this demonic cult.
Champ says
“If we can’t tackle enemy doctrines that call for our domination or extinction,” Flynn writes, “we aren’t going to destroy their jihadis.”…
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Bravo, Flynn! Finally, the voice of reason emerges …
And they also need to tackle another enemy: the bleeding hearts and pc crowd whom stand in the way of allowing this basic truth about islam be told unhindered–they are a HUGE obstacle. But in spite of their wrongheaded opposition, the truth about islam & company must be told.
Champ says
Ask yourself this question …
Do I *disagree* with Flynn?
If your answer is Yes, then YOU are a danger to yourself and to society on the whole, and an obstacle to the truth about islam–so snap out of it!
common sense says
Good. Lets follow through. Cut Islams supply lines, sanction Iran, boycott any group involved in protecting Jihadis and shut down any Mosque found to be preaching slaughter.
Whlie we are at it ask any Muslim you know why they consider us infidels if we are not Muslim. They are now in the greatest country on earth, its an antiquated and barbaric term and not necessary. Enjoy individual freedom and pass it along.
dumbledoresarmy says
Target the Abominable House of Saud, too. And the Emirates and Qatar and Bahrain and the rest.
It will mean a complete rejig of all sorts of things, but it is necessary; the US is currently entangled in a very, very dangerous dhimmi-like or vassal-like posture toward all the abovenamed sinister mohammedan entitiies.
If the USA disengages from them, yes, in the short term, there will be some major economic and other difficulties – just as there are when a woman flees from an abusive spouse or partner – but this is about SURVIVAL.
Not only about physical but spiritual/ psychological survival, as a free country.
Anne Smith says
Too true but oil trumps everything, unfortunately.
gravenimage says
Luckily, we are producing increasing amounts of oil and natural gas ourselves now.
All great suggestions from common sense and Dumbledore’s Army.
carol says
common sense says “While we are at it ask any Muslim you know why they consider us infidels if we are not Muslim”
That’s interesting to consider. Their own description of Allah as strange, unpredictable and unknowable etc. is not cuddly, humanistic or rational is it? This must be why (despite their claims) even the evil Mohammed and his insane story-line is more appealing to them. Even their prayers are in the nature of asking for things e.g. the death of Jews and Christians (but perhaps they have time to toss in ‘good health for granny’?).
Their strange god seems to be safely contained within a graven image/book and seems to have little to do with the “kingdom that lies within”. Some spiritual practices like Vedanta/yoga state that you cannot develop spiritually when your ACTIONS are incompatible with your spiritual practices/aspirations. Perhaps that explains it all.
Jerry says
Oh, my gosh, could it really be this good? Well yes, of course it could. Because the new administration has the heart and soul for it. And I really mean this, I’m not just stroking the lucky charm with this. Trump made his intentions clear, his no-nonsense attitude toward islamic aggression would not be tolerated. And now we get this heartfelt, soulful message from the President’s top security advisor, a man totally qualified for the position. I can’t express with words the joy I feel at what’s happening. Truth has stepped forward and demanded a hearing. This is why America is becoming great again. We will not bow to islam’s gutter tactics, nor shrink from our duties to humanity and nation. Iran and islam aren’t our “pals,” and I’m proud our new president is willing to stay true to America’s mission for the world. My hopefulness grows every day. I regret ever having doubted Trump’s ability. He’s more than I expected. I just hope the left doesn’t kill him.
Jerry says
The problem in America now is, so many are not fairly judging Trump, a man who simply wanted to make America great again and make a bold stand against islamic tyranny and aggression. There should be no shame in speaking the truth, and that’s all Trump did in regard to islam and the muslims who support it. I’m learning in my lifetime what it means to be courageous for ones moral convictions and how painful it can be. Spencer, Geller, Wilders, Trump, Le Pen… they are the ones that love humanity in truth. They are the ones that take the whippings for us all. They are controversial and hated by so many. But I believe there will come a time when statues are built in their honor for the good work they’ve done. Islam is the world’s greatest evil. Anyone that leads the resistance must invariably be great.
Lor says
Well it is shocking that a federal judge in Seattle has any say over the authority of “Commander in Chief” President Trump by ordering a stay of his proposed temporary ban of seven mostly Islamic countries. It has been shown that Obama did the same with Iraq in 2011 for nine months and Trump wants three months – to come up with an improved vetting system. So I do pray for him while he is being treated so poorly and disrespected so. I know in my heart that he totally gets the Islamic threat – thus Flynn. Unfortunately, the next miserable attack by jiihadis on American soil will be blamed on President Trump and his unfriendly policies towards Islam.
Lor says
That should have been written “unfriendly”.
Don McKellar says
Here comes that honest national conversation and education on Islam which I told everybody here was going to happen once Trump was President. I told you so.
Champ says
Actually, Trump told us so …
Jerry says
Just goes to show how good your understanding of evil islam truly is. You are an asset to us all. Your honest, good will for our nation and human rights is appreciated.
Angemon says
“Radical”? Yeah, let’s start with that…
Stephen David says
I hate to be a wet blanket but…. although I am also greatly enthused that there is someone out there who is not afraid to call the enemy ideology “Radical Islam,” his desire to see “a complete reformation of the Islamic religion” throughout the Muslim world is foolish and has absolutely no possibility of success.
The problem is Islam itself. The violence and evil started with the founder of this totalitarian cult… the warlord, bandit, murderer/beheader and pedophile Muhammad. The source of terrorism is imbued in all of the primary sources of Islam, the Qur’an, Sunnah, Serat, Shariah, etc.
For a real reformation of Islam to take place which might result in a non-terroristic religion of “Peace” would be to devoid it of everything that makes it “Islam.” You would be essentially creating a new religion that has little to nothing to do with the Qur’an, Sunnah or Muhammad.
HugoHackenbush says
Agree with your comment. See my comment and Lewis’s book. Once the cost of adhering to the full ideology becomes too high then full adherence will cease. However, I could be wrong about this. After all, we still have all the ongoing killings in America motivated by state sponsored Shinto (see the chapter “Gifts From Heaven” in Lewis’s book regarding this reference to Shinto).
gravenimage says
What are you on about? There are no “ongoing killings in America motivated by state sponsored Shinto”, nor does the erudite John Lewis claim that there are:
https://www.theobjectivestandard.com/issues/2007-winter/american-victory-over-japan-1945/
Just the opposite, in fact, he notes the total surrender of Japan.
mousey says
stephen,
you might enjoy this video of tarek fatah: secret origin of islam. Things are not as completely hopeless as you let yourself believe. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lC57D-rIeOA. We are most aware of the saudi’s version of things since they spend so much money to spread it.
There is also someone, chaitanya, in 1400’s india who defeated muslim high-ups with superior argument that effected change. The everyday muslim follows important scholars who are expert in “sacred knowledge.” If you can open up the vision of even one top muslim scholar, you change the thinking of thousands or even millions of muslims.
Stephen David says
Hi Mousey,
The video is indeed very interesting. I was already aware of much of the material he covers on the origin of Islam through books and videos by Robert Spencer, David Wood and Islamic sources such as ibn Ishaq’s Serat Rasul Muhammad, which I am in the middle of now. But he gives a lot of details I wasn’t aware of.
Nevertheless, I am not so optimistic as you. You mention “Chaitanya” in the 1400s who made significant changes in Indian Islam. I would be interested in learning more about this. But that really supports what I am saying. In spite of this person’s impact in 1400s, Islam is still violent and repressive. That is because around 90% of Muslims in the world are Sunni (i.e. the “Saudi version of things) and hold fast to Qur’an and Sunnah which contain the violence.
I think that more and more young Muslims, especially in the west, who have access to such videos and literature on the origins and history of Islam may gradually fall away and apostatize, in some cases becoming “secular” Muslims (similar to what we call “cultural” or “nominal” Christians) and in other cases leaving the religion overtly.
But at most, this will just slow down the rate of increase of Muslim populations due to birth rates.
The majority of Muslims get their understanding of Islam from the local Mosques, and as long as the local Imams get their own understanding of Islam from its primary sources of Qur’an, Serat and Sunnah (even if it can be shown that those sources were created centuries after the time of Muhammad’s death) then I don’t see things changing much.
After reading a large number of comments by Muslims regarding videos by Robert Spencer, David Wood, Jay Smith, Nabeel Qureshi and others its obvious how many Muslims will not actually listen, consider and debate an issue. They usually ignore any arguments and resort quickly to threats of violence or labels of “Islamophobia” or “racism” to shut debate down and having to deal with the problems inherent in Islam.
In any case, I do want to thank you for pointing me to that interesting video.
Peace!
mousey says
hi stephen,
Be optimistic! As we learn more and more, we’ll see ways to help islam supercede its materialistic stuff…we have to.
Geert’s interesting, fast-read Marked for Death has quotes from the book you’re reading, i haven’t gotten to it yet. I’m studying Reliance of the Traveller and coughlin’s Catastrophic Failure.
I agree there needs to be more than shining a material light on Muhammed and his crew. Chaitanya, who i also have to learn more about, apparently argued from the basis of the koran. Islam has a basically impersonal understanding of god, and chaitanya used the stronger understanding of personalism to defeat those few muslims he spoke with.
Even i immediately notice something off with the islam goal. They talk a lot about gardens watered with running streams, and how you can enjoy enjoy enjoy in paradise with the virgin girls. No god anywhere in sight–because He’s not personal. No getting pleasure from serving god, but instead enjoying your own senses as you do now. From a religion standpoint that is weak.
Is the goal proclaimed by imams materialistic, selfish, no different than goals on earth? If yes, then it can be superceded in the heart of any sincere muslim.
Even Assange, maybe not a very devout person, said ” I think the only hope is something, something along the lines of a new christianity. Not christianity, but the same kind of reformist notion of swapping out hate for some aspects of love that you have in christianity.”
Peace.
gravenimage says
Hi, Mousey. I’ve enjoyed your posts–welcome to Jihad Watch!
I’m afraid that Tarek Fatah is not the reformer he likes to present himself as, though–there is some less than great stuff from him here, where he attacks brave Muslim apostate Ayaan Hirsi Ali:
“A brief debate with Tarek Fatah”
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/05/a-brief-debate-with-tarek-fatah
More on him here:
“Fanaticism: The Moderate Version”
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2015/09/fanaticism-the-moderate-version
mousey says
thank you gravenimage,
I am not only new to jihad watch, i’m new the whole situation.
The first link is about tarek’s criticism of wafa sultan and ms. bhutto.
I’ve watched tarek plead with canadian gov’t people to pay attention to mosques and their radicalization. They just rolled their eyes. I also find the video on tarek i posted to be a great great thing to pursue. The criticism he made of wafa was answered and that answer is also on jihad watch. Tarek did a follow up to the answer: http://www.theamericanmuslim.org/tam.php/features/articles/did_prophet_muhammad_rape_a_nine-year_old_aisha/
I would be interested in your comments
mousey says
gravenimage,
primary sources are soo important, for all of us.
Case in point: Your second link. An article about tarek fatah by michael devollin. Michael believes fatah is an apologist. Michael: ” As Mr. Fatah once told a Canadian senator who was bold enough to question his defense of Islam, “Senator, I resent the fact that you’re teaching me about my religion.” I would have told Mr. Fatah, had I been that senator, ,,, Islam cannot be judged by the examples of a very few well-behaved Muslims ”
Michael got it backwards. The canadian senator was the one defending islam. Fatah was trying to warn the senators that the canadian mosques were radicalized. You can hear for yourself https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WN4lexqcbDA
Just after the 44 minute mark is the “senator, i resent…”
thanks for the links though, i appreciated it.
gravenimage says
Good sleuthing, Mousey. It certainly does seem possible that Michael Devolin was referring to Senator Grant Mitchell, in which case you are quite correct and he was in error. Thank you.
With respect, though, I still consider Tarek Fatah an equivocal figure at best. Here he is, going after Anti-Jihadist Wafa Sultan:
“In defense of Wafa Sultan”
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/03/in-defense-of-wafa-sultan
In any case, I have enjoyed our exchange and will look for your comments in the future.
gravenimage says
True, Stephen.
HugoHackenbush says
For and in-depth exposition on the topic see the following book (an excellent read): https://www.amazon.com/Nothing-Less-than-Victory-Decisive/dp/0691162026/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1486593525&sr=1-1&keywords=john+lewis+victory
From the amazon description of the book: The goal of war is to defeat the enemy’s will to fight. But how this can be accomplished is a thorny issue. Nothing Less than Victory provocatively shows that aggressive, strategic military offenses can win wars and establish lasting peace, while defensive maneuvers have often led to prolonged carnage, indecision, and stalemate. Taking an ambitious and sweeping look at six major wars, from antiquity to World War II, John David Lewis shows how victorious military commanders have achieved long-term peace by identifying the core of the enemy’s ideological, political, and social support for a war, fiercely striking at this objective, and demanding that the enemy acknowledges its defeat.
davej says
For Trump’s long overdue course correction on Islam to succeed he must have the majority of public opinion behind him. After 15+ years of misdirection and Saudi influence on our Universities this won’t be easy. A formal designation of Islam as a primarily political force that has repeatedly declared war on us might help.
Meanwhile the MSM is so opposed to him personally that they will make any excuse to not recognize the unfortunate truth that people like Flynn are articulating..
mortimer says
Retired Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn like most officers and men who were in Afghanistan or Iraq UNDERSTAND JIHAD PERFECTLY…because they bought the books about jihad and studied them independently.
Soldiers have to understand the enemy for SURVIVAL. Politicians have LIED to the public about our enemies, because they need the enemies of freedom to vote for them.
Retired Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn is correct: ISLAM IS A DANGEROUS POLITICAL IDEOLOGY.
dumbledoresarmy says
They also need Allen West, retired General, on board.
Because Allen West has done his homework – all the way back to Charles Martel and the self-defence of what was left of western Christendom, at Tours, in 732. WEst understands about the self-defence of Infidels against Jihad.
West should be encouraged to speak up and share what *he* has learned.
RichardL says
West was O5 (LTC). Like me 🙂 That’s why I like the guy so much.
I had my doubts about Flynn but the are dissapearing quickly…
gravenimage says
Yes–I would *love* to see the wise and patriotic Allen West part of the team!
Guest says
I love that the democrats are no longer in charge
Demsci says
This is great, for me he is a brave hero. He is not a general for nothing.
He wants not only to fight a hostile totalitarian ideology but he also emphasizes it’s better competitor as an ideology; the Judeo Christian one. A 2-pronged strategic plan, as opposed to only a tactical security/ policing plan.
As far as I am concerned the positive ideology can also be something like “Democracy 2050”, with the goal of having 90 % of humans under Democratic government in 2050.
Many of us don’t believe in the possibility or likelyhood of Islamic reform. And for some of us a better goal would be to convert big masses of Muslims out of Islam, into no religion or into other ideologies, like “Democracy 2050”.
But I suppose someone in the government can’t have a goal of converting many Muslims, at the very least the Muslim-citizens of the Western world, out of Islam, as of yet, in the current “political correct climate”.
Oliver says
The idea of 90 per cent of the people living in a democratic society is in my view beyond comprehension.
Look. As to three examples. Iraq. Afghanistan and Arab Spring. All were meant to foster democracy. All failed. All are more of a mess than before.
My views
Lion of Judah's Cub says
Democracy in the palestinian territories resulted in the election of Hamas, a terrorist organization.
A constitutional republic to succeed requires citizens who govern themselves/ live in accordance with Judeo-Christian principles (even if they fail to recognize that their principles are Judeo-Christian).
gravenimage says
Demsci wrote:
As far as I am concerned the positive ideology can also be something like “Democracy 2050”, with the goal of having 90 % of humans under Democratic government in 2050.
Many of us don’t believe in the possibility or likelyhood of Islamic reform. And for some of us a better goal would be to convert big masses of Muslims out of Islam, into no religion or into other ideologies, like “Democracy 2050”.
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Demsci–with all respect–the Muslim world is not going to accept Democratic government. Iraq and Afghanistan had an excellent opportunity to adopt Democracy; almost all of the Muslim population rejected it. Not only are their governments appalling and corrupt states with many aspect of brutal Shari’ah law, but in both of these nations more pious Muslims–the Taliban and ISIS, respectively–are making huge inroads.
And I don’t think it is realistic to expect mass-apostasy of Muslims; in fact, Islam is *resurgent* in most of the Muslim world.
If I recall correctly, only about 10% of the world’s population live in full democracies; how we would skyrocket to 90% in less than thirty-five years is anyone’s guess. Certainly, the Muslim world will not be along for the ride.
Demsci says
As for fighting the (Radical) Islamic ideology. There are these recent books about the very questionable beginnings of Islam by Robert Spencer and Tom Holland. And there is the current effort of Jay Smith to shed light on Islam’s beginning. He indicates that bible-criticism was devastating to Christianity and that he expects the same to happen to Islam, when Quran-Sira-Hadiths and Tafsirs come under scrutiny. He points to Dan Gibson who shows that Muhammad’s hometown may well have been Petra instead of Mecca!
It seems to me that just a bit of an intellectual honest and informed mind is already in a position where it is hard to believe in such a fairy tale as Islam really is.
Also we should realise, I think, that much of our distinct Democratic philosophy and system came after Islam’s ideology was finalized. And that our Democracy really is anti-Islamic. So we could point out that if one professes to be truly “Democratic” in all it’s essences, one already is anti-Islam!
The advantage the Muslims declare is that they have their laws which are of Divine Origine as opposed to the Western laws being of Human Origine, is just something concocted by the early Islam-explainers, as Tom Holland described in the introduction of his book.
In reality of course both sets of laws are manmade. But the Islamic laws are absurdly hamstrung because of this notion of Divine Origine because that prohibits humans to improve them. This is a recipe for them becoming obsolete, incomplete and when being vague, incomprehensible, contradictory and multi-interpretable on essential tenets by hundreds of millions of followers, they must remain so, until judgement day (which takes an awful long time in coming).
In contrast, when Western laws give problems due to changing times, misunderstanding and what not, a democratic government and parliament can update them.
General Flynn can also consider to make use of Jihad Watch and David Wood and others for their excellent very knowledgeable debunking of the rather stupid Islamic ideology as a whole.
Otherwise he might go for 2 distinct sets of societies and have as goal that the Democracy lovers be in and come to the un-Islamic Democratic countries and the Islamic lovers be in and go to the un-Democratic Islamic countries. President Trump already spoke about making sure that those coming into America should be the people who love America or end up loving it, not hating it and trying to destroy it. He reminds me of Teddy Roosevelt with that.
But at least may this Trumpteam go as far as the “political correct climate” allows it to go.
gravenimage says
Flynn: “If we can’t tackle enemy doctrines that call for our domination or extinction, we aren’t going to destroy their jihadis”
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Great stuff from Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn!
Of course, he is incorrect about this being “radical Islam”, but overall this is *very* heartening.
Gerald Mucci says
He will have to eliminate 50% of all Islamic texts, eradicate 1,400 years of Islamic history, rewrite the life of Muhammad, and silence a million current Muslim leaders.
gravenimage says
All we have to do is isolate Islam–we don’t have to pretend it never happened. In fact, it is Muslims who try to rewrite history–not civilized Infidels. We need to know *more* about the history of Islam–and our fight against it over the centuries–not less.
Demsci says
In our democratic society there seems to be an awful lot of citizens who care not much about any ideology or those having divers smaller ideologies, who are de facto “neutral” or even siding with enemies at times.
So when a part of the people and a government want to fight a hostile dangerous ideology they are only trying to get rid of it, a negative strategy. In contrast, the Islamic Ideology’s followers know exactly what they are FOR and want to promote that by all means, not just protect it.
When our team wants to let a clear ideological competitor win over this hostile ideology they should realise I think that only a part of citizens in democratic countries are consciously and comprehensively pro their own Democratic ideology.
But when a part of the people and the government have a clear comprehensive short version ideology of their own, it is only logical that they try to protect and promote that at the cost of it’s competitor; among both the competitor’s followers and the many de facto neutrals, I think.
And they may then turn the tables on Muslims by declaring, along with the neutrals in society, as some sort of “Kuffars for the followers of the Democratic Ideology”. And the women of the Democratic Ideology may even consider to wear something just as distinctive as the headscarf, but showing one is of the “Democracy-faith”.
carol says
it’s wierd enough as it is Demsci.
gravenimage says
One can belong to many faiths and still be a staunch supporter of democracy–Islam is one of the few creeds, and the only major one, that is entirely incompatible.
TheBuffster says
I think I’m going to faint! 😀
Demsci says
Of course, it is something many people get sick and tired of and want to fix that is what starts all sorts of innovation.
But something of a paradigmshift regarding Islam and Democracy may be unfolding now. At first we saw more and more Islam as a “negative deviation” from our norms and values. But in a sense our own Judeo Christian and Democratic norms and values may be the “Positive exception” in historic context!
gravenimage says
Unfortunately, there is not a single Muslim nation that is democratic–and many parts of Dar-al-Islam are getting *worse*–just look at Turkey.
Champ says
Flynn wrote:
“We can’t win this war by treating Radical Islamic terrorists as a handful of crazies and dealing with them as a policing issue,” he writes. “The political and theological underpinnings of their immoral actions have to be demolished.”
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Exactly, Flynn …
And note Jihad Watch’s mission statement:
“Exposing the role that Islamic jihad theology and ideology play in the modern global conflicts.”
This mission statement underpins the direction Flynn is taking our nation in defeating jihad. This will happen ..”Believe me!”
Davegreybeard says
Hi Champ, regarding:
“The political and theological underpinnings of their immoral actions have to be demolished.”
THIS should never be overlooked as a weak point of Islam:
22:52 “Never did We send a Messenger or a Prophet before you but when he did recite the Revelation or narrated or spoke, Shaitan (Satan) threw some falsehood in it. But Allah abolishes that which Satan throws in.”
How long it takes for Allah to “abolish it,” He doesn’t say…
As you may know, this Aya is part of the “Satanic Verses” saga. It is a HUGE weak point of Islam and the Muslims know it – much more than we realize I think. Just the mention of this story invariably creates a predictable reaction of rage and fury in any knowledgeable Muslim – our enemy is telling us his weak point.
It is also a great conversation starter. I have taken to asking some of my devout Christian friends: “Have you ever, in your life, or in any of your religious studies, come across a story where God says “Every once in a while, when Jesus spoke, Satan threw something in there. But We always fix it when that happens.”
So Allah says that Satan sometimes spoke through Muhammad’s lips. This fact should be spread far and wide, amongst Infidel and Believer alike.
Hope you and yours are happy and thriving!
Champ says
Excellent comment, Davegreybeard!
And to this …
“Have you ever, in your life, or in any of your religious studies, come across a story where God says “Every once in a while, when Jesus spoke, Satan threw something in there. But We always fix it when that happens.”
No–not ever! Pure genius that you would point this out because it really drives the point home. Very amusing and poignant.
Thank you and I wish you and yours the very best, my friend 🙂
gravenimage says
Great comment, Dave.
avi15 says
At the heart of this is the fallacy that Islam is a religion. It’s not. It’s a political ideology that has taken the form of a religious cult, albeit one with over a billion followers. What’s the difference between a cult and a religion? That would take a whole book to explain. However, in a nutshell my definition is this: a religion frees the individual. A cult enslaves the individual.
In any case, the legal definition of Islam as a religion has to be removed. This is the same as saying that all the constitutional protections and privileges afforded to Islam have to be removed. Otherwise, the courts will always side with the jihadis and any measures taken to fight Islamic terrorism will be struck down. This means that western governments will be paralysed in their fight against this type of terrorism, which is exactly what the enemies of freedom and democracy want.
Daniel Triplett says
Right. Step One is to criminalize Islam. Islam is nothing but serious felonies. A criminal syndicate.
We’re not required to consider it a religion or afford it Constitutional protection simply because a 7th Century psychopath said so.
No one could start Islam today. Muhammad would be on Death Row in a SuperMax were he to be alive now.
Ren says
Trump administration will save the world from islam. Finally!
Champ says
Must watch and share:
“Jihad Watch director Robert Spencer discusses why Christmas 2016 was so tense and heavily guarded in Europe and North America, and why Christmas 2017 could be even worse. This has direct bearing on President Trump’s immigration policies.”
Champ says
Just shared to my Facebook …
gravenimage says
Yes, Champ–this is the real war on Christmas, and it is being largely ignored.
Champ says
Indeed, Graven …
And as Robert Spencer explains in this video, the heightened and extreme security measures aren’t because islam is a “religion of peace” …quite the contrary.
gravenimage says
And here’s the thread, for those who want to read the comments there:
“Video: Robert Spencer on Muslim immigration’s effect on Christmas in the West”
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2017/01/video-robert-spencer-on-muslim-immigrations-effect-on-christmas-in-the-west
Ade says
shared
Bob Smith says
The RICO-M3 Proposal
American RICO statutes (Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations) were intended to go after the mafia. The acts of Islamic mullahs and jihadis clearly falls into the same pattern as the mafia. The only difference being, Islam’s claim of an oddball form of “religious legitimacy”.
The US should use the RICO statutes to, declare Islam, a criminal enterprise. Then close Islam down as it presently exists in the US.
RICO allows the government to follow crime and money. Then, arrest all, and confiscate anything in its path.
You can be sure the movement of money for jihad is widespread. You can be sure the incitement and communication between mullahs and mosques is wide spread. You can also be sure there is foreign involvement. The RICO statutes were made just for this type of activity.
Use a small army of CPAs and attorneys to investigate every jihad attack. Follow 100% of the money back to its source. Track anyone involved, in any way. Then use the RICO statutes to jail, confiscated, and shut down all involved. That includes shutting down all (M1) mosques. Arrest all (M2) mullahs. Follow, and confiscate, all jihad (M3) money back to its source.
You can be sure there is Saudi (and other Islamic country’s) money involved. Nationalize it all, even money the Saudis have in the Western banking system. (Everything done legally.)
There should be zero tolerance for jihad – in all forms.
Then, only allow Islam to be practiced in the privacy of the home. There should be no public Islam.
This US solution would shock the Islamic world. And that is what is needed to start a real Islamic reformation.
Our European and other international friends could also take a lesson on what is possible.
It is long overdue to take off the PC blinders and call out Islam for what it is.
If we can penalize the catholic church hundreds of millions of dollars for sex abuse, we can surly confiscate Saudi money for mass murder on 9/11. (There is no statute of limitation on murder. This is long overdue.)
http://rico-m3.blogspot.com/
dumbledoresarmy says
Nice one.
And of all people, I am absolutely certain that Trump would take an interest in and see the point of following the ‘money trail’. I think he would ‘get’ how it would work.
gravenimage says
Good points, Bob.
Ocean-blue says
Millions thanks to great Donald Trump. You have appointed a brave man,Flynn in the
right post.Now, save the world from Islam.
http://www.faithfreedom.org/historical-clash-of-titans-prophet-muhammad-versus-president-trump-the-historical-immigration-order/
La La says
Wow what a breath of fresh air. But with that said now the battle begins.
John A. Marre says
The radical ideology is Islam. A terrorist is one who actually carries it out. Good luck stamping out Islam.
gravenimage says
I don’t think we have to stamp out Islam–just isolate it. Islam still existed a couple of decades ago, but we did not face the constant threat of Jihad terror then.
james.mich says
Trump and Flynn will have incomplete success unless they are willing to take on the Churches. If need be, they should do exactly that. Christian Islamophilia ought not to be exaggerated, but neither can it be denied. No amount of Christian goodwill, or Christian self-deception, can hide the facts of what Islam is and does, nor why. I hope Trump will go much much further with his ban than he has yet done.
somehistory says
From a headline story on CNN about the president “designating more terror groups,”
” Duration: 03:28 7 hrs ago
The Trump administration considers new diplomatic moves against the Muslim Brotherhood and the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps. “
Hugh Fitzgerald says
The most effective way to weaken the Camp of Islam is to show the 80% of the world’s Muslims who are not Arabs that Islam has always been, can never be anything but, a vehicle for Arab supremacism. That’s one way — not the only way but at present the most effective way — to lessen the grip of Islam on many of its adherents.
American-Pragmatism says
American Pragmatism strongly supports President Donald J Trump and National Security Advisor Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn.
Their methods show deep understanding of the Jihadist threat.
Avi15 says
We are looking at the end of Western civilisation in its present form. If it does survive the present onslaught by Muslim barbarians – that’s an if -, it will not look the same afterwards.
ce527 says
This is absolutely a step in the right direction. We finally have someone in our government who is willing to identify the enemy for who he really is.
But even Michael Flynn is guilty of trying to couch his words in the interest of ‘political correctness’.
At some points within this article he is 100% on target when he is quoted as referring to the enemy as:
“the radical ideology of Islam” or…
“the failed civilization, is Islam” and…
then nails the problem WE have to overcome when he says,
“We suffer pangs of guilt just “calling them by name…”
But then even he resorts to the apologist’s, politically correct at any cost cop-out when then he refers to the problem as:
“radical Islam” and “radical Islamic views” or “radical Islam terrorists”
WE NEED TO STOP OUR PRACTICE OF PUTTING THE WORD “RADICAL” IN FRONT OF THE WORD “ISLAM”!
This is redundant. ISLAM is violent.
This is not to say that all Muslims adhere and obey those tenets which instruct such behavior, but they are the ones going against the teachings and example of Mohammad. They are the ones who are the extremists. If there is a “radical” Islam, it is the one practiced by those Muslims who do not engage in Jihad.
So instead of calling it “radical Islam”, we should call it just “Islam”, and when we do find it necessary to differentiate between it and those millions of Muslims who do not obey those commands to commit evil, we should add the qualifying adjectives to them by using terms like “Moderate Islam” and “Moderate Muslims”.
gravenimage says
Yes–their understanding is not complete. Still, a move in the right direction.
Transmaster says
There are several things that can be done to counter the Salafist movement in Islam. The first and best thing to start with is to recognize a sovereign state of Kurdistan. The Kurd’s are Muslim for sure but for now at least they do not follow political Islam. I have friends who fought along side the Kurds in the Kurdish regions of Iraq. They told me that while Iraqi solders where cowards the Kurdish Peshmerga warriors had to be restrained their urge to kill the Daesh is beyond the bezerker level. They have told me they have witnessed with their own eyes Daesh thugs running in terror from Peshmerga Amazon warriors. Combine Kurdistan, and Egypt together and you would have a good counter balance to Iran. And as an added bonus it would cause Erdoğan of Turkey to have a stroke combined with a heart attack.
Another thing to consider is something the UK started during the time of the British Empire, and which continues to this day, ethnic regiments. You have all heard of the Gurkhas. The Brigade of Gurkhas has been a part of the British Army for 200 years. They are in the process of forming a Sikh regiment. Can you imagine a US Marine Brigade of Peshmerga trained to the same level as a Marine Recon Ranger. and after honorable service of perhaps 10 years full US Citizenship and benefits. Can you image such a soldier on a Middle East Battlefield.
Another thing that needs to be done is to encourage the hated Islamic minorities that are not at odds with the modern world, The Alawīyyah, and the Sufis, the former a off shoot of Shi’a and centered in Syria, and the latter is a mystic off shoot of the Sunni. President Assad is a Alawīyyah. The Sufis have been largely wiped out is most of the middle east and Northern Africa and their remaining strong hold is in India. Sufis celebrate in their Mosques with beautiful music and poetry, and in India you often find Christians and Hindus attending Sufi religious services each praying in their own way. Their music is absolutely beautiful.
The biggest problem Obama had was he failed, for whatever reason, to recognize that we have a resumption of the almost 2000 year old war of mutual genocide between the Sunni, and the Shi’a. All the the Jihadist groups are on one side or another. Both believe in the destruction of the Jews and the subjugation of the the Western World but each wants it under their brand of Islam, and the will kill each other the make that happen. The thought of Iran with Nuclear weapons is frightening, the Sunni world already has them thanks to Pakistan.
Susette says
This feminist Democrat never excuses islam. When people are curious enough to be educated and ask questions, they get a basic primer about the evils of islam, a retrograde “religion” that has been unchanged since the 7th century. I’ve been called an “islamophobe” and consider it a compliment…then instruct them why there is everything to fear about islam. The problem is there are soooo many incurious people with a detached “if it doesn’t happen to me…” line of thinking. They don’t grasp the insidious nature of islamic infiltration.
I hope the Trump administration bans niqabs and burkas in all public places for national security reasons. I think we’ll have to accept that hijabs are part of our world today, but at least these women are identifiable. Funny thing is they look like swadled infants. So it’s hard to take the likes of a Linda Sarsour seriously when she looks so infantile.
Brenda Romano says
I’m also a feminist Democract, I’m proud to a “islamophobe.”
Susette says
Brenda Roman, We need more of us feminist Democrats to challenge the pc “islam is peace”, “hijab is freedom” mantra!
UNCLE VLADDI says
Flynn is delusive; islam cannot be reformed, because the Qur’an says it can’t – not only because it is already allegedly “perfect” but also because it clearly states that anyone who tries to change a word of it, must be murdered by the other, “real” muslims (sura 4:89).
Also, there is no separate branch of “radical” islam; there is only one Qur’an and one islam. Pretending some perverted, “radical” version of it exists implies that there must also be a real, unperverted and “moderate” version – which of course there isn’t at all!
gravenimage says
Yes–Islam cannot be reformed.
Joe says
True! Islam as a whole needs to be condemned. All mosques in our country demolished. It is not even a religion. It is a war, pedophile and death cult which flies under religious rights just for the sake to gain access to world domination. It needs to be dealt with like with the Nazis or socialism/communism!
Debi Brand says
Indeed, UV. Well stated.
UNCLE VLADDI says
Thanks Debi!
Matthieu Baudin says
When I read these comments and analysis by Flynn it was immensely refreshing, as if I’d been holed up in a dank cell for 8 years and then the door was finally opened and let in a great gush of fresh air. I hope in the year ahead we get much more of this fresh breeze blowing across the international landscape, courtesy of Trumps electoral victory; he must have the thickest hide of any politician I’ve witness for many, many years. Congratulations America.
Brenda Romano says
Flynn is correct, we need to get them out of our schools. 7th graders studying Islam have to recite the Islam conversion prayer, wear Muslim clothing, use Muslim names, go to their mosque, etc…Oil rich countries have conspired with book publishers to whitewash Islam’s history. Recently, Professor Jonathan Brown at Georgetown University lectured students on the “joy” of Islamic slavery as opposed to the horror of US slavery. He neglected to mention that under Islamic slavery, non-Muslim girls are forced into sex rings and their male counterparts are castrated. He is teaching students that women don’t have to consent to sex and have no bodily autonomy. He claims this is all a Western feminism ideology with no basis in fact. In other words, women are not human and therefore have no human rights. They are beasts to be used as one pleases.
When I was in school we studied world religions. We read their history, unabridged philosophy/culture and visited their place of worship.
We can’t defeat them if we refuse to acknowledge their lies, deceit, subterfuge, violence, allow their foreign laws, codes, systems, doctrine, culture to infect our legal systems, government and military.
HISTORY LESSON: Lebanon was a democratic Christian country that welcomed Muslims, including refugees. When the Muslims gained a majority, even the so-called “moderate” Muslims, turned on their Christian neighbors slaughtering them. They pulled down Christian churches, defecated on alters, urinated on the Bible, even using Bible for toilet paper. They crucified boys, castrated Christian men, raped Christian women and girls. The Lebanese were shocked – “how could this happen after-all we welcomed them, our children went to the same schools, they came to our houses, we broke bread with them?”
It’s not just Christians who will suffer but Jews, Buddhists, Hindus, Atheists, Agnostics – in other word everyone.
cnsnews.com October 25, 2016 “At the Breaking the Silence conference in August in Colorado Springs Lt. Gen. William G. “Jerry” Boykin said “It’s a five phase plan to take over America, It’s unfolding right now. Now, there are more specific plans that they have for how they’re going to take over. And as Kamal Saleen (a former jihadist) sad they’re going to infiltrate every element of our society, including the church.” The document was found in 2004 in a basement in Annandale Virginia. The document is called the Explanatory Memorandum.”