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France’s deradicalization centers seen as a “total fiasco”

Feb 25, 2017 12:14 pm By Robert Spencer

Deradicalization programs, upon which the West has placed so much hope, have long been an obvious failure. Such programs are based on the premise that the true teachings of Islam are peaceful, and so all that needs to be done is show the jihadis how they’re misunderstanding the Qur’an and overlooking its teachings of peace, and all will be well. But since the Qur’an and Sunnah are full of commands to make war against and subjugate unbelievers, the idea that jihadis can be “deradicalized” by reference to them is just a myth told to Infidel authorities to lull them into complacency.

Well, let’s see. De-radicalization programs have been implemented elsewhere, notably in Indonesia and Saudi Arabia. Let’s look at how they fared. From the Jihad Watch archives:

11 ex-Gitmo prisoners flee the Saudi “rehabilitation program” and join up with terrorist groups

Jaw-dropper: 25 former Gitmo detainees “return to militancy” despite Saudi rehab program!

Graduate from Saudi jihadi rehab program killed in Syrian jihad: “killed a large number of Christians before his acceptance by God”

Flight 253 jihadist wasn’t cured by Saudi anti-jihad art therapy

Former Guantanamo detainee now top al-Qaeda ideologue — “He was transferred to Saudi Arabia in 2006 where he was placed in a national rehabilitation project.”

Indonesian government admits that its jihadist rehab program is a failure

“France’s deradicalization centers seen as a ‘total fiasco,’” by James McAuley, Washington Post, February 24, 2017:

PARIS — A bipartisan report in the French Senate minced no words in describing this country’s efforts to “deradicalize” former and future terrorists.

The French government’s attempt — including the controversial opening of a deradicalization center in the middle of the countryside — was a “total fiasco,” in the words of Philippe Bas, a senator from the center-right Republicans party.

Among the most damning elements in the report was a firm condemnation of the planned network of 12 deradicalization centers, perhaps the most widely publicized — and criticized — element of the government’s push to combat homegrown extremism.

A wave of terrorist violence — perpetrated mostly by French or European Union passport holders — has claimed the lives of 230 people in France since January 2015, and the Socialist administration of François Hollande has struggled to improvise a solution to the problem.

The deradicalization centers — officially called Centers for Prevention, Integration and Citizenship — were meant to impose rigorous routines on those they housed, as well as to subject them to intense courses in French history and philosophy. As Prime Minister Bernard Cazeneuve said while serving as interior minister last fall at the opening of the first center: “We can only fight against terrorism by respecting the principles of the Republic.”

But five months later, only one of 12 planned centers has opened, and that one — in an 18th-century chateau deep in the scenic Loire Valley — is empty.

“This failure fully illustrates the lack of evaluation of the mechanisms set up by the state in the area of taking responsibility for radicalization and the lack of a comprehensive prevention strategy,” Catherine Troendlé, a senator from the Republicans who signed the report, said in a statement.

The report concluded that the programs had been designed hastily without proper due diligence.

“Despite their goodwill, several associations, seeking public funding in times of fiscal shortage, turned to the deradicalization sector without any real experience,” said Esther Benbassa, a senator from the left-wing Europe Ecology party, another of the report’s authors. This, she added, created an unfortunate “business of deradicalization.”

The French security establishment had long criticized the government’s deradicalization effort as too little too late, a knee-jerk reaction designed to put an increasingly anxious electorate at ease.

“It’s impossible to deradicalize individuals,” Jean-Charles Brisard, a French intelligence expert and director of the Paris-based Center for the Analysis of Terrorism, said in an interview….

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  1. Warmac9999 says

    Feb 25, 2017 at 12:21 pm

    It appears that the socialists hope to stumble on a magical.potion that changes all Muslims into western world thinkers. The denial of islams realities is really quite astounding.

    • JOHNNIEMAC says

      Feb 25, 2017 at 12:31 pm

      Astoumding? Strange! Idiots lie!

    • 1reader says

      Feb 25, 2017 at 1:37 pm

      I have a hard time understanding the deep denial of what Islam is from the Leftists. The Quran is basically a manual for how to kill, torture, enslave, sexually abuse, extort and generally hold hostage at least 1.6 Billion people.
      I do not understand the sense of safety some liberals enjoy, while inviting in the most violent elements on the Planet into our virtual homes all while condemning the police and military – making themselves – and us -more unsafe than ever!!.

      • sog says

        Feb 25, 2017 at 5:10 pm

        It’s isn’t logical; It’s “feeling”. The feeling of the right is that all improvements are incremental. Improvement is a step by step process. Learn more, add to your skill set, and teach others.

        The feeling on the left is that positive change is not a step wise process; The current social structure needs to be swept away. Forms of Utopia can only be achieved once the current social structure is gone.

        The left’s view fits well with Islam and the globalists “new world order” because they all depend on ridding the perspective that improvements are the result of hard work: planning, testing, doing, reviewing results, and re-planning. The left aligns with the Marcuse, Alinsky, and Pol Pot perspective that it is best to start over, thinking their world view will dominate and that either factionalism will not exist (unlikely), or be allowed (more likely).

  2. Angemon says

    Feb 25, 2017 at 12:29 pm

    PARIS — A bipartisan report in the French Senate minced no words in describing this country’s efforts to “deradicalize” former and future terrorists.

    The French government’s attempt — including the controversial opening of a deradicalization center in the middle of the countryside — was a “total fiasco,” in the words of Philippe Bas, a senator from the center-right Republicans party.

    A waste of taxpayer’s money, not to mention it endangered the lives of the French population. What’ll happen to the people who cooked it up? Heck, who were they? Who were the “scholars” who came up with this idea and the politicians responsible for making it come into existence? If I were a French, I’d want to know this.

    As Prime Minister Bernard Cazeneuve said while serving as interior minister last fall at the opening of the first center: “We can only fight against terrorism by respecting the principles of the Republic.”

    Do the principles of the Republic exempt religion from scrutiny? I suspect not.

    The report concluded that the programs had been designed hastily without proper due diligence.

    “Despite their goodwill, several associations, seeking public funding in times of fiscal shortage, turned to the deradicalization sector without any real experience,” said Esther Benbassa, a senator from the left-wing Europe Ecology party, another of the report’s authors. This, she added, created an unfortunate “business of deradicalization.”

    This sounds like blame-shifting – the problem, you see, it’s not that, as Jean-Charles Brisard goes to say, there’s no way to deradicalize an individual, but that the associations trying to do so lacked experience.

  3. Polk1970 says

    Feb 25, 2017 at 12:38 pm

    One can readily see why they LOST to Nazi Germany

  4. Buford says

    Feb 25, 2017 at 12:43 pm

    Muslims have 1 goal world domination & as far as a Religion of peace forget it
    they are Barbaric Murderers, Rapist , Slave owners, into Pedophilia does anybody honestly think any Real Legitimate religion would condone this type of Activity.
    These creatures will never change & need to stay in Muslim Countries

  5. Dave Flang says

    Feb 25, 2017 at 1:14 pm

    What the West Doesn’t Know about Islam and the Arabic Quran

    • harbidoll says

      Feb 26, 2017 at 9:06 am

      thanks for the video, turned the speed up but very inspirational !!!

  6. davej says

    Feb 25, 2017 at 1:26 pm

    The only way to deradicalize them is to de-Islamize them, the “radical” part is built into the core of the cult. Should be renamed “Apostasy Centers” where free thinking Muslims can overcome their brainwashing in a protected environment away from their coreligionist’s threats. Similar to animal shelters where abused creatures can get away from the cruelty of their previous owners.

    • 1reader says

      Feb 25, 2017 at 1:43 pm

      Davej, you are so right. That would be the humane and compassionate thing to do. Safe places to free themselves from the Hatred and Death Cult.

  7. 1reader says

    Feb 25, 2017 at 1:44 pm

    Hammer fear and terror into the infidels. I have a neighbor hammering aw we speak..

  8. Zub says

    Feb 25, 2017 at 3:09 pm

    Why is this not surprising? You can remove the animal from the wild, but you can’t remove the wild from the animal, especially if it’s had a lifetime of Islamic indoctrination.
    So what’s next France, candy and teddy bears, or balls and bullets?

    • Infidel001 says

      Feb 25, 2017 at 3:20 pm

      Submission to islam once demographics take their toll. European birth rates are unsustainable while muslim birth rates are extremely high add to this fact is the insane European Disunion immigration policies. What will happen is more and more of Europe will fall to islam as the no go zones expand, until various civil wars break out. Considering what cucks most Europeans are I don’t have much faith they’ll win. It will take generations to play out, but in France and Sweden especially they already make up a decent % of the population, just wait until high muslim birth rates and low European birth rates really take their toll in a generation or two. Added to this you have a whole host of world wide islamic organizations, as well as nation states in the OIC (Organization of Islamic Cooperation) adding fuel to the fire. The fun is just beginning in Europe, and the whole thing could have been avoided, sadly it’s all Kalgeri Plan all the time in the European Disunion.

  9. Singh the Sikh says

    Feb 25, 2017 at 3:58 pm

    Why does only religion of peace need deradicalisation programs, burdening countries/taxpayers with tens of millions of dollers annually? Why not any other religion in the world? Take Hinduism and Buddhism for example. Both religious groups have migrated to western countries in fairly large numbers but not a single deradicalisation program needed in a single county. Not a single misunderstanding by followers of the two religions. The only misunderstandings occur in Islam, on a fairly massive scale, and regular basis. A lot of the misunderstanding occurr among mullahs, and is spread from maddrasass and mosques.

    What’s going on? Are we missing something?

  10. davej says

    Feb 25, 2017 at 4:39 pm

    It is always and only Islam that needs “special treatment” (at our cost).

    A couple of months ago I heard they were giving free skiing lessons, lift tickets and lessons to the refugees. Probably not going to work except to create mujahideens flying down the slopes.

    • Mockingjay says

      Feb 25, 2017 at 7:21 pm

      “…mujahideens flying down the slopes.”

      … probably triggering avalanches…

  11. don vito says

    Feb 25, 2017 at 8:37 pm

    These Alinski camps are recruitment tools.

  12. JUSTICEFORALL says

    Feb 26, 2017 at 3:21 am

    The most probable reason this program is a failure and will always continue to fail is because if you read the Koran, you will see that it tells its people to kill & torture in over 100 places in the Koran(it is in no way a “religion of peace”!!!) for one reason – the other person is not a Muslim. It tells them to slit the throat, cut off the fingertips, hands & feet, cut off their head, etc., etc. So, a Program trying to lie and tell their people it is a religion of peace, once they start reading the Koran for themselves, they see it is not true. The goal of the Koran is to take over the world (their Movement is called “Jihad”) and convert everyone to Islam and murder anyone who refuses to convert! Read the Koran and you can see for yourself!

  13. gee says

    Feb 26, 2017 at 10:39 am

    There are several ways to deradicalize Islamofascists, most involve lead or high explosives

  14. JawsV says

    Feb 28, 2017 at 8:15 am

    What I don’t understand is why we didn’t put down Islam after 9/11.

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