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Georgetown prof Jonathan Brown now says Islam forbids slavery and rape, but in 2015 said it allowed them

Feb 11, 2017 5:07 pm By Robert Spencer

Georgetown professor Jonathan A. C. Brown is not interesting in himself, and so I am loathe to devote yet another post to him, but he is illustrative of so many things: the corruption of the academic establishment in general and Georgetown University in particular; the intellectual bankruptcy of Leftists and Islamic supremacists; the open and unapologetic hatefulness of the same, even as they preen about being “tolerant.” Now add the mendacity of contemporary academics and Islamic apologists, and especially Islamic apologist academics, to the list.

Brown’s recent lecture offering sly justifications for Islamic slavery and the rape of captured Infidel women has gotten a lot of attention; here is a good summary piece about the controversy from the Daily Caller. Under fire, Brown has backtracked completely, saying that neither he nor Islam condone slavery or rape.

That’s great, except it not only contradicts what he said in his speech last Tuesday; it also contradicts what Brown himself said in 2015 in Facebook discussions, in which he avowed that Islam approved of both slavery and rape.

There is much more on this here, from a Muslim site that takes issue with Brown as a “Salafi.” Note also the Rabia sign of support for the Muslim Brotherhood as his Facebook avatar.

If I said that Islam condoned slavery and the rape of captive Infidel women, Brown would call me an “Islamophobe” and a “subcreature.” But he says the same thing, or at least does so when he isn’t receiving negative media attention. That’s the Incoherence of the Academics these days.

Meanwhile, does Georgetown know what kind of monster it has on its faculty? More importantly, does Georgetown care? The Saudis give them several million reasons not to.

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  1. Zimriel says

    Feb 11, 2017 at 5:13 pm

    From now on I shall refer to him as Jonathan Rape Rape Brown.

    • mortimer says

      Feb 11, 2017 at 8:15 pm

      Koran 4.24 is Allah’s DECREE giving permission to rape married captives … read it slowly. Brown knows this but he is playing a game.

      Dr. Suad Saleh, a professor of Islamic Jurisprudence at the renowned Al-Azhar University in Cairo, Egypt, said during a TV interview:
      “The seizure of KAFIR girls and their use as SEX SLAVES is SANCTIONED in the Qur’an. According to Islamic law, Muslim men can take “captives of the right hand” (Qur’an 4:3, 4:24, 33:50). The Qur’an says: “O Prophet! Lo! We have made lawful unto thee thy wives unto whom thou hast paid their dowries, and those whom thy right hand possesseth of those whom Allah hath given thee as SPOILS OF WAR” (33:50). 4:3 and 4:24 extend this privilege to Muslim MEN IN GENERAL. The Qur’an says that a man may have sex with his wives and with these SLAVE GIRLS: “The believers must (eventually) win through, those who humble themselves in their prayers; who avoid vain talk; who are active in deeds of charity; who abstain from sex, except with those joined to them in the marriage bond, or (the CAPTIVES) whom their right hands possess, for (in their case) they are free from blame (when they rape married captives).” (Qur’an 23:1-6).” Prof. Saleh continued, “”The female prisoners of wars are ‘those whom you own.’ In order to HUMILIATE them, they become the property of the army commander, or of a Muslim, and he can have sex with them just like he has sex with his wives.”

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzTNtDtBiUk

      FROM THE QURAN – 4:24

      “And all married women are forbidden unto you save those captives whom your right hand possess. It (rape) is a DECREE OF ALLAH for you.” (Muhammad Pickthall’s English translation of the Quran).

      • Jack Holan says

        Feb 11, 2017 at 9:39 pm

        Mortimer and Robrert Spencer how much do you expect from Jonathan Brown? He’s only got his PhD and reaches at Georgetown beneficiary of the Saudi Royal Family. When Prince Talal offed a gift of $10mm just days after 9/11 with strings attached Mayor Giuliani promptly & publicly returned the check with a loud superlative N9 Thanks! Geogrtown with Elitists & Islamist so full of themselves only they and creatures like them don’t recognize it. Madeline Albright (She knows best what Israel needs for their security. She FEELS it’s the Palestinians time) Marie Harf (Remember Jihadists aren’t terrorist because of Islam but due to unemployment low economic status low education level. Just tell me what and the Hell are the teaching at Georgetown? The are a host of others.
        The.most significant point for Jonathan Brown by making stupid yes stupid since they can be disproved he lowers his image lower and lower AND draws attention to the very item he’s trying to bury. 10. 20. 30. Years hence the historians then will view him with derision and not as a peer Academic but a laughing stock

        • Zimriel says

          Feb 12, 2017 at 12:00 am

          J Holan, this is not fair. I’ve read Brown’s work on the canonisation of the two Sahihayn. It was good scholarly work.

          Something has happened to him since then. As Pam Gellar has said about… someone else, psychology is not my field.

        • gravenimage says

          Feb 12, 2017 at 6:59 pm

          Zimriel, one can be a rigorous scholar and still embrace absolute evil.

          No one is claiming that Jonathan Brown’s scholarship on endorsing slavery and sex slavery in Islam is incorrect; just that it is morally indefensible.

          By the way, for anyone who wants to read Brown’s “The Canonization of al-Bukhari and Muslim–The Formation and Function of
          the Sunni Hadith Canon”, you can find it here:

          https://islaambooks.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/the-canonization-of-al-bukhari-and-muslim-by-jonathan-brown.pdf

      • frederick King says

        Feb 12, 2017 at 5:02 am

        Unless you are mohammad, who is allowed to have sex with his friends’ wives, and basically anyone, or thing he desires ?

  2. billybob says

    Feb 11, 2017 at 5:14 pm

    It is outrageous that this man is in a position to influence impressionable youth. Whatever was Georgetown thinking when they hired him? And now they undoubtedly know what this man is all about, what are they going to do about it? Give him tenure I suppose…

    • mortimer says

      Feb 11, 2017 at 8:26 pm

      Brown is a verbal jihadist working for money jihadists. They pay him to make jihad against the West by distorting well-defined, well-known Islamic teachings from the CONSENSUS of Islamic jurists throughout the entire history of Islam. No Islamic scholar has disagreed with sex slavery.

      The Egyptian Sheikh Abu-Ishaq al-Huwayni declared in May 2011 that “we are in the era of jihad,” and that meant Muslims would take slaves. In a subsequent interview he elaborated:
      “Jihad is only between Muslims and infidels. Spoils, slaves, and prisoners are only to be taken in war between Muslims and infidels. Muslims in the past conquered, invaded, and took over countries. This is agreed to by all scholars—there is no disagreement on this from any of them, from the smallest to the largest, on the issue of taking spoils and prisoners. The prisoners and spoils are distributed among the fighters, which includes men, women, children, wealth, and so on.
      When a slave market is erected, which is a market in which are sold slaves and sex-slaves, which are called in the Qur’an by the name milk al-yamin, “that which your right hands possess” [Koran 4:24]. This is a verse from the Qur’an which is still in force, and has not been abrogated. The milk al-yamin are the sex-slaves. You go to the market, look at the sex-slave, and buy her. She becomes like your wife, (but) she doesn’t need a (marriage) contract or a divorce like a free woman, nor does she need a wali. All scholars agree on this point—there is no disagreement from any of them. […] When I want a sex slave, I just go to the market and choose the woman I like and purchase her.”
      Around the same time, on May 25, 2011, a female Kuwaiti politician, Salwa al-Mutairi, also spoke out in favor of the Islamic practice of sexual slavery of non-Muslim women, emphasizing that the practice accorded with Islamic law and the parameters of Islamic morality.
      “A merchant told me that he would like to have a sex slave. He said he would not be negligent with her, and that Islam permitted this sort of thing. He was speaking the truth. I brought up [this man’s] situation to the muftis in Mecca. I told them that I had a question, since they were men who specialized in what was halal, and what was good, and who loved women. I said, “What is the law of sex slaves?”
      The mufti said, “With the law of sex slaves, there must be a Muslim nation at war with a Christian nation, or a nation which is not of the religion, not of the religion of Islam. And there must be prisoners of war.”
      “Is this forbidden by Islam?” I asked.
      “Absolutely not. Sex slaves are not forbidden by Islam. On the contrary, sex slaves are under a different law than the free woman. The free woman must be completely covered except for her face and hands. But the sex slave can be naked from the waist up. She differs a lot from the free woman. While the free woman requires a marriage contract, the sex slave does not—she only needs to be purchased by her husband, and that’s it. Therefore the sex slave is different than the free woman.”

      • gravenimage says

        Feb 12, 2017 at 7:09 pm

        All true, Mortimer.

    • Carolyne says

      Feb 12, 2017 at 11:26 am

      What was Georgetown thinking? Most likely thinking about the $10 million from Saudi Arabia and how to split it up among them.

  3. Paula B says

    Feb 11, 2017 at 5:16 pm

    So, on university campuses, people are being brow beaten for not using precisely the right language; for choosing ‘offensive’ Halloween costumes; university harassment policies are being written that use loose, subjective definitions of harassment; and yet this pitiful excuse for an academic is justifying crimes of great magnitude. You can argue that rape is fine, that female slaves have no sexual agency, but if a student gets the feeling that her prof looked at her funny, he’ll be up before a harassment tribunal before he can say ‘jihad’.

    • Lucia Bartoli says

      Feb 11, 2017 at 5:33 pm

      Maybe he should be, y’know?

    • gravenimage says

      Feb 12, 2017 at 7:26 pm

      Yes–the cognitive dissonance is stunning.

    • Huck Folder says

      Feb 14, 2017 at 12:16 am

      aula B says
      February 11, 2017 at 5:16 pm

      “So, on university campuses, people are being brow beaten for not using precisely the right language;”

      Brownbeaten?

  4. CrownHead says

    Feb 11, 2017 at 5:37 pm

    This professor is a convert to Islam,

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_A.C._Brown
    Brown was born on August 9, 1977 in Washington, DC. He was raised as an Anglican and converted to Islam in 1997

    • mortimer says

      Feb 11, 2017 at 8:42 pm

      Cuck sell-out.

    • Veka Fitzfrancis says

      Feb 12, 2017 at 7:01 pm

      So, its all takkiya.

  5. Terry says

    Feb 11, 2017 at 5:42 pm

    Expanding upon Paula B–

    If a MALE STUDENT says something to a female student, that she (perhaps a day or two later) decides that was inappropriate-the male student can face legal issues. AND NOT IN A COURT OF LAW- BUT THE SCHOOLS OWN ‘ COURTS” -similar to the old USSR courts- guilty until proven innocent, with no right of counsel.

    or, if a female student has sex ( consensual sex) with a male, both of age) then decides the sex was not good- well she could cry rape. Same as above.

    YET THIS PROFESSOR ON DAY ONE SAYS SLAVERY IS ALLOWED; CONCUBINES SEX IS ALWAYS CONSENSUAL-IE. THE CONCUBINE CANNOT SAY NO.

    SLAVERY IS OK.

    (But Israel keeping lands it won in wars that it did not start is wrong; Jews hiring Arabs to work is wrong-but slavery in Muslim nations is fine.)

    The entire left is effing sick.

    Just my view

    • Carolyne says

      Feb 12, 2017 at 12:33 pm

      Well, Hillary Clinton, when speaking of rape accusations on campus, said the woman must always be believed until proven otherwise. This apparently did not apply to her own husband, William Jefferson Clinton. Ask Juanita Broadrick.

  6. Angemon says

    Feb 11, 2017 at 5:46 pm

    Would referring to him as the Brown Rape Apologist be racist?

  7. Wellington says

    Feb 11, 2017 at 5:51 pm

    Every Muslim, no exception, is a confused human being, only the degree of confusion is a variable. If you think that that seventh-century psychopath, Mohammed, was the last and greatest of the prophets and that the Koran, filled with hatred towards non-believers as it is on almost every page and horribly repetitive and immensely boring too, is the unadulterated word of some supreme deity, then you are deficient as a human being. Again, no exception.

    But to actually grow up a non-Muslim, as this doofus professor at Georgetown did, and then as an adult convert to Islam, is evidence of a degree of foolishness which leaves one searching for words to characterize such foolishness. I mean this goes way beyond “mere” confusion. It bespeaks of an aberrancy of mind so profound, so extensive, that one is at a loss for words to describe it. Compounding this massive error where this silly professor is concerned is that he obviously was well educated, and so he is even more culpable for his stupid decision as an adult to convert to Islam than some poor slob who had little to no formal education and did so.

    No Muslim has “their act together,” just as no Nazi or Marxist ever did. But some exculpation can be made for those who, from infancy and childhood, were brought up with an enormously aberrant ideology. But no exculpation can be extended to someone like Professor Brown, who stands clearly, three-dimensionally like, as a fool to the core of his being.

    But it is even worse than this. Oh yes. Professor Brown stands as a MALICIOUS fool, one who clearly, indubitably, should have known better———————but who didn’t. The sin upon his head forever for this because when you have more than enough information to not align with evil, and Islam is the longest-lived malevolent ideology of all time, but you still do, then no benefit of the doubt should be extended to such a person. For instance, the pathetic human being who is Professor Brown.

    • Stan Lee says

      Feb 11, 2017 at 7:05 pm

      First off, this is to Wellington, the contributor of a piece of writing after which I can hardly contribute much more than to thank Wellington.
      I must add that I concur with everything friend Wellington wrote.

      As for the most confused “Professor,”Jonathan Brown, he ought to come out from behind that Hebrew first name of his, no sooner than his mouth starts to make sounds, it is evident that what he spews is typically Islamic and therefore laced with distortions and lies.

      He does all of us a favor by making it clear that he was a “politically correct” appointment to former Jesuit college, Georgetown U. That school’s reputation darkens the name of Catholic secondary education schools, it is as contradictory as Pope Francis is, who cannot possibly be compared to Pope John Paul, who was a live specimen of a great man to all.

      Georgetown U. once had Christian-Catholic standards, but now consider what is employed there as a “Professor.” A confused man (man?) who about two years ago defined rape and slavery according to Islam, only to alter that subject to a more militant form at present with his new editions of rape and slavery, obviously two elements that Islam very much depends upon in order that the male Muslim should be bestowed as superior to females of Islam, plus those who are forced by conquest to submit.

      Notice that Islam has been formed in order that the male of that species is celebrated by them as most dominant, yet with all its purported dominance, the ideology hasn’t as much as improved upon a wooden clothes pin for centuries, let alone any discoveries such as Islam’s sworn enemy, the Jews, whom have produced many life-saving formulas to benefit the entire human race which even Muslims can use to heal their maladies. All but their thought processes of life itself. That is cheap to them, given the fact that they are instructed to take life or be martyred in the act of taking life.

      However, as life to them is cheap, but death can be glorious for them as martyrs, the question is whether they really think they are as empowered as they like to believe. I
      Such an attitude to lives of others and themselves demonstrates a trait of self-inferiority. And, Brown, for all his yammering, sought an ideology that by its directions empowers anything with (Muslim) male genitalia as superior, while reducing female humans to production machines under repression.

      • jihad3tracker says

        Feb 11, 2017 at 8:20 pm

        HELLO WELLINGTON AND STAN — Consider me 1000% in agreement with your remarks. If we go back to Dr. Harrod’s post a couple of days past, Jonathan Brown’s reason for conversion to Islam is given (by him).

        It mentions — paraphrasing now, but this captures the rationale — that Jesus was too inflexibly gentle, but Muhammad adapted to individual circumstances. The implication of this is astonishing when considered: toss core values away if such it what it takes to prevail among those who disagree.

        Dr. Nikolai Sennels wrote “How Islam Creates Monsters” several years ago about socio-pathology — permissions based on axioms and assumptions (in the Qur’an, Hadith, and Sira. Find the path to his article to understand how the DSM-IV (clinical manual’s) narcissistic personality disorder diagnosis can explain the behavior evidenced by this guy.

        • jihad3tracker says

          Feb 11, 2017 at 8:26 pm

          THIS IS DR. SENNELS ARTICLE — AS PUT UP ON JIHADWATCH ALMOST 4 YEARS AGO:

          https://www.jihadwatch.org/2013/09/nicolai-sennels-psychology-why-islam-creates-monsters

      • mortimer says

        Feb 11, 2017 at 8:45 pm

        Islamic doctrine did not change in the last two years. Brown has flip-flopped. Islamic teaching on sex slavery is eternal and unchangeable.

        “No one can change Allah’s words.’ – Koran 6:115 and 18:27

    • mortimer says

      Feb 11, 2017 at 8:09 pm

      Brown is being bribed.

      • Carolyne says

        Feb 12, 2017 at 11:33 am

        There are some things money should not be able to buy. Hatred of one’s country is one of them. Disseminating false information about Islam is another. Saudi’s $10 million certainly went a long way.

        • gravenimage says

          Feb 13, 2017 at 7:50 pm

          He hates America and her values because he is a convert to Islam.

    • avi15 says

      Feb 11, 2017 at 9:57 pm

      This view is consistent with my contention that Islam is not a great religion but a noxious cult; moreover, one that employs all the cult mind-control methods it can devise. Accordingly, my definition of a cult (“A religion liberates but a cult enslaves.”) postulates that Muslims live in relative mental bondage and prostration; and this would seem to be demonstrated by Dr. Brown himself.

    • Gen Jones says

      Feb 12, 2017 at 9:03 am

      Excellent points, Wellington and Stan! It’s a pleasure to read your intelligent well written comments.

    • Screeminmeeme says

      Feb 12, 2017 at 10:16 am

      It seems that Professor Brown chose Allah over Jesus Christ because living the life of a Christian was just ‘too hard’ because Christians are expected to ‘forgive people and love their enemies’, something he found it difficult to do. So…..apparently Jonathan Brown was drawn by Islam’s unambiguous position on who the enemy is and how its ‘spiritual’ mandate allows its sadist adherents to act out their most brutal and cruel proclivities.

      And he is indoctrinating his malleable-minded students with the same evil rationalizations used by Muhammed to declare war on humanity.

      In other words, Jonathan Brown is every bit the savage as his ‘prophet’.

    • gravenimage says

      Feb 12, 2017 at 7:39 pm

      Yes–fine posts. And Brown *is* malicious–while any convert to Islam is an idiot, Brown is not some silly fool who read too much Rumi and decided that Islam must be really cool–instead, he is someone who understands just how savage Islam is, and willingly embraces it.

  8. Will Doohan says

    Feb 11, 2017 at 5:55 pm

    To the Left, everything practiced by other cultures, no matter how evil, is morally acceptable. They save all of their hatred for ‘the West’ and White males.

    • maghan says

      Feb 12, 2017 at 4:38 am

      But they adore Bill Clinton, Michael Moore, George Soros, Justin Trudeau, Fidel Castro, California governor, Edmund Brown, etc.

  9. john spielman says

    Feb 11, 2017 at 6:58 pm

    how can you tell if professor brown IS LYING? his lips are moving! (old joke)
    but truly any practicing muslim is encouraged to lie as a way to gain advantage over nonmuslims

    • Champ says

      Feb 11, 2017 at 8:30 pm

      Spot on, John!

  10. abad says

    Feb 11, 2017 at 7:46 pm

    Brown flip-flops so much he ought to be a politician

    • Carolyne says

      Feb 12, 2017 at 11:39 am

      He flip-flops so much he should be a shoe.

  11. Barry Donnelly says

    Feb 11, 2017 at 7:58 pm

    There are Liars and Dam Liars and then there are Professors like Jonathan Brown who Indoctrinate and Corrupt our youth with Utopian Fantasies which Are far Beyond even Plato’s ” Republic” . And you Professor Brown are sure the hell “No Socrates” !

    • john spielman says

      Feb 12, 2017 at 8:55 am

      that is because LYING, rather than a sin as in Judeo-Christian theology, is actually a SANCTIFIED ACT(made holy) in islam as a way to gain advantage over unbelievers!
      more proof that islam is a doctrine of demons and allah is Satan of the Bible

  12. mortimer says

    Feb 11, 2017 at 8:05 pm

    Rape during the Bangladesh Liberation War
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_during_the_Bangladesh_Liberation_War
    During the war, a fatwa in Pakistan declared that the Bengali ‘freedom fighters’ were Hindus and that their women could be taken as the ‘booty of war’.

    http://globalnews.ca/news/2424698/islamic-state-outlines-rules-for-when-soldiers-can-rape-female-slaves-report/
    Islamic State outlines ‘rules’ for when soldiers can rape female slaves: report

    The Islamic State has rules for when “owners” of female slaves can and cannot rape their captives, according to a Reuters report.

    According to the report, ISIS issued the fatwa to help prevent so-called “violations” of Sharia law in the treatment of female slaves.

    The fatwa was among documents captured by U.S. Special Forces during a raid in May, where commandos targeted a top ISIS official in Syria.

    According to the document, the “Fatwa Number 64” was issued on Jan. 29, 2015 and lists guidelines of when having intercourse with a female slave is permitted.

    • mortimer says

      Feb 11, 2017 at 8:07 pm

      400,000 Bengali women were raped by the Pakistan Army under fatwas that used Koran 4.24 as the legal authority for it.

      These rapes had the intention of promoting genocide and ethnic cleansing.

  13. DFD says

    Feb 11, 2017 at 8:09 pm

    Hi Folks! Off Topic, naturally, BUT GOOD!
    ================================

    In his speech about the state of the nation on Feb 10, Victor Orban stated that refugees are and will be most welcome in Hungary!

    Heeahhhh???!!!
    ———————-

    He clarified, genuine refugees from EUROPE! Christians, politicians who are hounded, by the press and politically correct parties, ordinary people who can’t cope any more with the alienation, and who love the Europe they have lost. And said that they will find it again in Hungary. I save the rest.

    I say: Three cheers: Hip, hip hurray! And a standing ovation for Victor. I think all real Europeans will agree to that and join in, and most Americans too, hopefully.

    • DFD says

      Feb 12, 2017 at 1:58 pm

      Additional, he also said: “…necessary to take up arms against increasingly strong activists from international organizations, and against covert foreign attempts to exert influence…
      the work of paid activists from international organizations and their offices …. and this is the transnational empire of George Soros.”

      Personal remark: As far as I know, or I believe, there’s a warrant of arrest for Soros in Hungary.

  14. RodSerling says

    Feb 11, 2017 at 9:07 pm

    Robert,

    Brown is also on record engaging in defending, via cultural and moral relativism, Aisha’s age at the time of Muhammad’s consummation of their marriage. He rejects apologetics that Aisha was older at the time of consummation.
    0:54 Brown: “you seem agitated about this…”
    2:50 Brown: “The science of hadith is that Aisha says ‘the prophet consummated the marriage with me when I was nine years old’. That’s what the hadith says. There’s an authentic hadith in Bukhari…it’s the most explicit data you have on this issue”
    7:54 Brown: “…emotionally mature?! what is emotionally mature?!”
    11:09 Brown: “from a sharia perspective, you cannot say that what the prophet was wrong”
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hE_zypf8DAU&spfreload=10

    long version:

    • Zimriel says

      Feb 12, 2017 at 12:30 am

      Ah. I was looking for this on his Twitter, didn’t find it, but I did suspect there was a subtext.

    • Angel Gabriel says

      Feb 12, 2017 at 3:30 am

      This guy has crap for brains! How would you like to spend your life shilling for the most odious ideology ever invented that is the foundation for all that is bad (terrorism, child sex slavery, etc). What a vile scumbag.

    • Angel Gabriel says

      Feb 12, 2017 at 3:40 am

      “The problem with universal human rights is that they keep adding more of them.”

      What a sick disgusting brain-dead idiot.

      Jonathan Brown is sub-human. Thanks Georgetown (sarc) for giving this monster a platform.

      • RichardL says

        Feb 12, 2017 at 8:19 am

        I am not sure that we shouldn’t thank Georgetown for giving someone the platform to say the truth about islam as we all see here.

        Naturally he is vile, but he spoke the truth until recently.

        I will make a prediction here: he will be silently fired just like Lorenzo Vidino silently fired the other jihadi down the hill at GWU.

        10m is chicken feed. A big Catholic donor reads this, he will pick up the phone and let the president of Georgetown know that he is giving his serious money someone else. Vidino at GWU miscalculated badly: he thought HRC will sit in the WH. Now his little center is up shit creek and the paddle went overboard in November…

        • Angel Gabriel says

          Feb 12, 2017 at 12:40 pm

          I believe you are right Richard. THE TIDE IS TURNING. Monsters like this no longer have free reign and you can thank the likes of Robert Spencer and Donald Trump for that.

          The leftist echo-chamber is collapsing. Just a year or two ago, a creature like this (Jonathan Brown) would have thought that his echo-chamber encompassed the entire world.

          He (Jonathan Brown) thinks he is smart using his mental masturbation to apologize for human atrocities committed by his retarded religion (Islam).

          He thinks he has put one over on me and you and the superior intellects of guys like Robert Spencer. But his primitive apologetics can’t hold water in an environment devoid of the Muslim-in-Chief Barrack Obama and his hired “Islam is Great” minions in power. To Brown: times have changed, creature. Islam is being exposed for what it is. And creatures like you will be ostracized for that which you are: an enemy of humanity.

        • Carolyne says

          Feb 12, 2017 at 12:59 pm

          The paddle has a name—Huma Abedin.

        • gravenimage says

          Feb 12, 2017 at 8:55 pm

          I hope Brown *is* fired. His teaching in a major American university is appalling.

    • Carolyne says

      Feb 12, 2017 at 12:58 pm

      I listened to this ridiculous person as long as I could but I was really amused about his reason for child marriage. A peasant is tending his ten goats and his thoughts go in the direction of getting married, apparently to relieve his boredom. However, the professor neglects to mention that having sex with a goat is perfectly permissible to Muslims so long as they don’t kill and eat the goat afterwards, but sell it to the next village. So his poor molested goats should supply whatever needs he has and he could leave children alone. After all, he has a harem of goats.

      That being the case, boredom and lack of sex wouldn’t apply to why a peasant in the desert would marry a child. The goats provide an outlet for his sexual longings, perverted though they may be.

      Back to the drawing board with that one, Professor Brown.

      • Terry says

        Feb 12, 2017 at 1:09 pm

        RE: Sex with goats.

        A few years ago, the WSJ blog (Best of the web) had a story-seems in Brazil, their CDC (Center For Disease Control) equivalent did a study of men who had sex with animals.

        I forgot the number who responded. But all had (as best as I recall):
        low/lower than “average” IQ’s
        higher rates of cancer of the testicles
        higher rates of a slew of other diseases

        for males of the same age group. The ages ranged from ( again,as best I remember) 17 to 75 or thereabouts.

        • Angel Gabriel says

          Feb 12, 2017 at 1:31 pm

          Yes, I would like to hear Jonathan Brown apologize for Mohammed’s and the Koran’s sanctioning of sexual intercourse with goats. I am looking forward to that video.

          Maybe Jonathan Brown would argue that since Mohammed said it is OK (intercourse with a goat is “halal”), that it is fine for him (Jonathan Brown) to engage in that activity (I am speculating). And I want to point out to Jonathan Brown that just because Mohammed said it is halal and that even if in fact the goat has a higher IQ than him (Jonathan Brown), THAT DOESN’T MAKE IT RIGHT because the goat can’t give consent.

        • Terry says

          Feb 12, 2017 at 1:40 pm

          I recall reading (decades before the Internet-possibly 30 or more years ago) that in a rural area of France, a man was accused of raping a donkey.

          The village priest was called upon as a character witness FOR THE DONKEY.

          (I think the man claimed that the donkey consented to the sex; and the priest was saying the donkey wanted to stay a virgin). Don’t recall other details- just thought that it was amusing.

    • gravenimage says

      Feb 12, 2017 at 8:47 pm

      Thank you for the links, Rod. Of course, this Muslim thug is not just fine with slavery, sex slavery, and rape, but with the rape of children, as well. This should surprise no one.

      He says that some societies “justifiably don’t care about” the morality of raping children–this a little after the 8:15 mark on the shorter video.

      He also says that the only restriction under Shari’ah is that the girl “should be able to bear it”–i.e., that she be old enough to *survive being raped*.

      As we can see, pious Islamic clerics are not always capable to discerning when this might be the case:

      “Afghanistan: 8-year-old bride of mullah bleeds to death on her wedding night”

      https://www.jihadwatch.org/2013/05/afghanistan-8-year-old-bride-of-mullah-bleeds-to-death-on-her-wedding-night

      At the very end he says *this*–that you cannot say under Shari’ah that what the “Prophet” did was wrong, because the “Prophet” cannot commit sins.

      And that is why Muslims do not consider pedophilia, robbery, rape, pillaging, enslaving, assassinating, or mass murder to be sins. God, I hate Islam.

      • gravenimage says

        Feb 12, 2017 at 9:00 pm

        Also, Brown accosts the man asking him about child rape, and demands to know “why are you agitated about the Age of Hazrat Aysha?” Appalling.

        • dumbledoresarmy says

          Feb 20, 2017 at 8:35 am

          Perhaps the police should take an interest in Mr Brown: he strikes me, given that having converted to Islam he is publicly advocating for Islamic slavery, *sex slavery*, and child ‘marriage’, he may well be.. the kind of creep who sneaks into online forums to attempt to ‘groom’ girl-children.

          He is despicable. One wonders how loud he would howl if he were, say, caught soliciting an under-aged girl, and clapped into jail, and found himself the de facto sex slave of some highly-unpleasant prisoners much bigger and stronger than himself. I bet he would scream, weep and rage. I bet all his airy defences of nonconsensual and unequal sexual relations would evaporate like spit on a hot pan, were he on the *receiving* end of such relations.

          When he was making his defence of slavery (or, rather, of Muslim enslavement of non-Muslims) someone should have quoted him, to his face, G K Chesterton’s definition of the true barbarian – “He laughs when he hurts you, but *howls* when *you* hurt him” – and then, looking him right in the eye, stated flatly, in cold and level tones, “And you, sir, are that barbarian”.

        • Cretius says

          Feb 20, 2017 at 8:55 am

          Brown stands against everything that civilised man cherishes and holds dear. He should be teaching in Saudi Arabia. There is no place for him in a western university.

  15. davej says

    Feb 11, 2017 at 9:57 pm

    Wow. All Islamists are mentally ill but converts are the worst. He obviously saw a career opportunity so he debased all moral principles to climb on the Arabian gravy train. That makes him a loathsome, intellectually dishonest sellout.

    “Professor”, what a joke.

  16. Arthur says

    Feb 11, 2017 at 10:35 pm

    I wish any Muslim about to give a speech or lecture would simply start off as follows.

    “Hello, my name is ___________. I am a practicing Muslim, and for disclosure purposes I would highlight that Islam does not morally forbid lying and deceit, particularly toward non-believers, as long as it benefits Muslims. Now please listen to what I am going to tell you because you can always trust a Muslim.”

    • Norger says

      Feb 12, 2017 at 6:01 pm

      Exactly. This is one of the most disturbing things about Islam–the tendency of its followers to flat out lie to infidels about unpleasant/ugly/hateful/misogynistic…and well-established Islamic doctrines. I don’t care about whether this qualifies as “taquiya” (sp?) or not; it is flagrant dishonesty, period. And our MSM just laps it up.

  17. tgusa says

    Feb 12, 2017 at 2:59 am

    Redefining islam. Better watch out blasphemer!

  18. mach37 says

    Feb 12, 2017 at 4:52 am

    Who is Prof Brown’s authority, that confirms that all Muslims have been informed that they should ignore the Qur’an and the Hadiths? And have ISIS, ISIL, Al Qaeda, Boko Harum, and other terrorist groups been informed that they are violating Islam by raping, killing and enslaving others?

    • gravenimage says

      Feb 12, 2017 at 9:08 pm

      Elsewhere, he has confirmed all of the savagery of Islam per Shari’ah law and the model of the “Prophet” Muhammed.

  19. FYI says

    Feb 12, 2017 at 8:35 am

    Mr Brown has converted to a religion that revels in lying.Just think of that islamic bag of dissembling tricks..Taqqiua,tawriya,Kitman,Muruna…the “islam is the religion of peace” mantra said by politicians and celebrities.Really?Have they read the koran or mahomet’s life?

    I mean the concept of obedience to God’s Ninth Commandment is completely alien to their creed.
    As indeed are pretty much all the other commandments,especially the Sixth,which allah/mahomet appear
    to have completely missed.It is hard not to laugh at allah’s ignorance of the Commandments but then of course the Islamic allah of the koran is NOT the Judeo-Christian Biblical True version of God.

    Converting to islam is a bit like this.
    It is like running a marathon in the opposite direction to the specified route given to you and then amazingly,expecting to win a prize for all your wasted effort.
    Why should you get a prize?You went the wrong way.

    The specified route,at least for Christians, is given in the New Testament.
    Now when the convert discovers allah and the koran, well of course he is rejecting this path for another
    route.When he follows the Way of the sword by following mahomet’s example(Sunnah)then he cannot be following the way of peace of Jesus since “you cannot serve two masters”.

    Of course what converts to islam also fail to see is that they will be judged by Jesus Christ.
    So growing a beard,adopting a silly arab name and learning arabic* to study the koran is really,really foolish.

    So the convert has exchanged the Truth for a counterfeit and since a lie has no legs to stand on he has to work very hard to convince even himself of the rightness of his decision to convert to islam which is why they have to lie even to themselves.

    *If you want to find out about God you can do so in your OWN LANGUAGE.The Biblical version of God
    speaks ALL languages and has a Bible for you to read in your own language.allah,on the other hand,being linguistically challenged,requires a working knowledge of Arabic.How silly is that when you think about allah compared to Almighty God?

  20. Gen Jones says

    Feb 12, 2017 at 8:58 am

    When you start with the premise that what Muhammad did can never be wrong, you can justify anything and apparently you have to. It’s one thing, as others have pointed out here, if you have been raised inside the cult and haven’t had access to contrary ideas. I liken Muslims to North Koreans, slaves to cult worship of their fearless leader. But this academic making excuses like a scientist or mathematician with a theorem that can’t be contradicted is profoundly on the side of evil. Brown seems to be one of those people who thrive on being contrary as if arguing arcane minutae proves his intelligence. I think it merely proves his criminal insanity.

    • gravenimage says

      Feb 12, 2017 at 9:22 pm

      Gen Jones wrote:

      When you start with the premise that what Muhammad did can never be wrong, you can justify anything and apparently you have to.
      ……………..

      Spot on, Gen.

  21. Florida Jim says

    Feb 12, 2017 at 10:31 am

    Islam is a lot like being a democrat. You lie whenever you need support for your foul religion or policies.
    Islam uses the koran to support almost any position since there are so many contradictory verses to be called for as needed. The truths of A Caliphate, sharia, Jihad, Taqiyya and beheading are a constant which always lurks in the background waiting to to be employee and recalled.
    Democrats ignore slavery except when the law “slavery forever” is recalled and they are forced to acknowledge their foul sins. They have use blacks as tools for their med policies enslaving everyone just as Muslin’s wish to do. Big government is the same as Islam the elite rule everyone and beheading is always lurking for anyone who questions the leaders.

  22. Carolyne says

    Feb 12, 2017 at 11:43 am

    I find Brown to be a physically unattractive person and IMO that could be the reason he converted to Islam. It allows its adherents to just seize women and they don’t have to go through the ritual of dating, etc. An unattractive man who become a Muslim can skip all the preliminaries, since in Islam, females are sub-human with no right of choice in their lives. I can’t of course, speak for Brown, but that is the general rule in Islam.

    • gravenimage says

      Feb 12, 2017 at 9:58 pm

      Carolyne wrote:

      I find Brown to be a physically unattractive person and IMO that could be the reason he converted to Islam.
      …………………

      Objectively, Carolyne, Brown is probably fairly good-looking–but his expression is so evil that it is difficult to get beyond it.

  23. BRYAN O"CONNOR says

    Feb 12, 2017 at 5:49 pm

    Kind of like those changing photos of soviet leadership ( thugs ), during Stalins rule and even after stalins death .

  24. gravenimage says

    Feb 12, 2017 at 6:48 pm

    Georgetown prof Jonathan Brown now says Islam forbids slavery and rape, but in 2015 said it allowed them
    …………………………..

    And so Jonathan Brown–I wonder what his Muslim name is?–is belatedly trotting out the Taqiyya.

    But he has openly condoned slavery and sex slavery, blandly noting, “slave women do not have agency over their sexual access, so their owner can have sex with them”–in other words, enslaving and raping women is fine.

    Here, he sneers at the very idea of consent and even independent moral agency:

    “It’s very hard to have this discussion because we think of, let’s say in the modern United States, the sine qua non of morally correct sex is consent. We think of people as autonomous agents. Everybody’s an autonomous agent and it’s the consent of that autonomous agent that makes a sexual action acceptable,” he said.

    “If you take away the consent element, then everyone starts flipping out,” Brown continued, adding: “We fetishize the idea of autonomy to the extent that we forget, again who’s really free? Are we really autonomous people?”

    Of course, there is no consent in Islam, there is love in Islam, and there is no freedom in Islam.

    • Terry says

      Feb 13, 2017 at 8:04 pm

      Do you really think that there is LOVE in Islam?

      Other than, THE LOVE OF DEATH.

      As Golda meir once (or perhaps more than once) said, (about the Palestinians- but in my view-applies to all Muslims, about Israelis- but, again, in my view-appleis to almsot anyone other than their own sect) WHEN THEY LOVE THEIR CHILDREN MORE THAN THEY HATE US, THEN, WE CAN HAVE PEACE.

      A shame more peopel (INCLUDING, UNFORTUNATLEY, MANY LIBERAL JEWS) DO NOT REALIZE THIS.

  25. Cretius says

    Feb 13, 2017 at 9:42 am

    Remember first in any Mohammedan defense of Islam that lies and deceit are encouraged to protect and to achieve the goals of Islam. Perhaps then ‘collective responsibility’ is the proper response to Islamists. If lies and deceit are used then all are held accountable.

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