The Cologne Cathedral Square “was the scene of mass sex assaults on New Year’s Eve 2015, with over 1,000 criminal complaints filed yet few arrests and convictions made.”
The face of Europe continues to change. Another inconvenience and expense to add to the fallout of Merkel’s disastrous immigration policy of indiscriminately flinging open the doors to Muslim migrants.
The area was also turned into a “security zone” in Christmas 2016, with armed police and checkpoints, to prevent terror attacks similar to the Berlin Christmas market attack.
Migrants committed 142,500 crimes during the first half of 2016, according to the Federal Criminal Police Office. These include: “rapes, sexual and physical assaults, stabbings, home invasions, robberies, burglaries and drug trafficking.”
As if a crime onslaught was not enough, Merkel wants German taxpayers now to spend billions more dollars on foreign aid, despite already facing an $87,000,000,000 Muslim migrant bill.
“Security Personnel to Be Permanently Stationed at Cologne Cathedral”, by Nick Hallett, Breitbart, February 13, 2017:
Cologne Cathedral is to introduce stringent new security measures amid ongoing security fears, with worshippers’ bags being searched and private security drafted in.
Cathedral provost Gerd Bachner told a press conference on Saturday that people “must not be afraid” when they visit the building.
“We have to do more to ensure safety,” the provost said. However, that personnel should still act “proportionately”.
From 1 March, there will be a ban on bringing large suitcases, travel bags, and hiking bags into the cathedral. Kölnischer Rundschau also reports that a private security firm will join the traditional cathedral vergers in policing worshippers, including performing random bag and pocket checks at the entrances to the building.
The provost declined to say exactly what size bag would be too big, and the cathedral will not be installing security doors, he added.
The cathedral square was the scene of mass sex assaults on New Year’s Eve 2015, with over 1,000 criminal complaints filed yet few arrests and convictions made.
Statistics in December showed 1,222 criminal complaints had been investigated by authorities, some 500 of which were related to sexual assault. The rest were in relation to other violence offences, as well as theft.
The area was also turned into a “security zone” in Christmas 2016, with armed police and checkpoints, to prevent terror attacks similar to the Berlin Christmas market attack.
The security measures were the first time ever that bags of worshippers were searched, with the cathedral provost saying at the time: “You have to get used to it.”
Now, some of those measures are to become permanent, although the cathedral says it has yet to sign a contract with a security firm……

andra says
I have always loved the Cologne Cathedral. I have visited it often, with friends from abroad or all by myself. But never it was necessary to install security at the church´s doors.
In 2008 I celebrated new year´s eve right in front of the cathedral. It was one of the most peaceful turns of the year I´ve ever had. It was silent, the people were nice and polite and the wonderful cathedral bells were ringing. In 2015 it turned to a place of Horror. I was not there but I followed the life ptures from there on TV. The Cathedral square was only taken in focus for a few seconds by the TV-crew but knowing the place I could see that something bad was going on. You could also see who was acting badly. But the TV Videos which must exist has never been shown to the public.
By the way. The arch-bishop of Cologne – one of the most powerful bishops in Germany and maybe even in the whole Catholic Church – is one of the worst apologetes for Islam in Germany.
mortimer says
the archbishop of Cologne must eat his words.
DFD says
That jackass replaced the altar in the dome with a “refugee boat”, no kidding.
gravenimage says
Andra, this is a beautiful cathedral–and now it is threatened by ravening Muslims. Just insane.
Charli Main says
Unless Merkel and her cronies are disposed off, the real horror is yet to come GI, when the Muslim invaders build minarets on to the cathedral, like they did to the Hagia Sophia. Then the howling of the imams will be heard across Cologneabad.
andra says
In Cologne they have already built a huge mosque with imposant minaretts. Luckily there have been many construction errors so that it has not yet been fully opend.
gravenimage says
Yes–Muslims have seized Churches and turned them into Mosques many times. Here’s the beautiful 14th-century Gothic St. Sophia Cathedral in Nicosia, Cyprus, with her bell tower sheared off and a minaret grafted on and turned into the Selimiye Mosque in 1570:
https://gerritkurtzdotnet.files.wordpress.com/2016/11/img_8510.jpg?w=840&h=630
Cologne Cathedral is probably not under threat from this–not yet, anyway. That could change if Muslims continue to flood into Germany.
And Muslims *have* been buying up Churches across Europe and turning them into Mosques–ugly stuff.
DFD says
Hi Graven Charli and Andra,
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OK fellows, I put a photo tour together, about the dome of Cologne. ENJOY!
That thing is huge, even by NY standards. And consider when it was built. It will also show why it is such a prime target for the Ms. And they do hate Christianity
Here are the links (plus some commentary from me), you have to add the http : // www. Bla bla, otherwise this post will get stuck under being “reviewed”:
koeln.de/bilder/data/pictures/2015-12-04_panorama_koelnturm_mediapark/normal/P1180455.jpg
upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c2/K%C3%B6lner_Dom_Luftbild_Bahnhof_-_cologne_aerial_%2825326253726%29.jpg {requires https and double slash with : ONLY, no www.}
upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/39/Johannesfranciscus-Michiels_bau-des-doms-koeln-1855.jpg {Circa 1855, requires https… as above}
upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/37/Kolner_Dom_kurz_vor_der_Fertigstellung_1880.jpg {Circa 1880, requires https… as above}
upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/07/K%C3%B6lner_Dom_um_1900.jpg {Circa 1900, requires https… as above}
upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5e/Warning_sign_in_cologne.jpg {1945, just prior to the end of fighting, requires https… as above}
Internal views:
upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/91/Dom_zu_K%C3%B6ln%2C_Chorbereich.jpg {“cardinal” Woelki (YEECCHHH!!) has replaced the altar with painted ‘refugee boat’. Proclaiming Jesus would have been in one of these… Inidentally, that’s the squire area. requires https… as above}
upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/87/Klarenaltar1.jpg {the ‘Klaren Altar’, suck rocks Italians 🙂 … requires https… as above}
upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/34/Koelner_dom_innenraum_von_ostseite.jpg {the ‘Swallow’s Nest Organ 1, it’s build high up, requires https… as above}
upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d4/Schwalbennestorgel_Koelner_Dom.JPG {the ‘Swallow’s Nest Organ 2, it’s build high up, requires https… as above}
upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/23/Koelner_Dom_Decke_Pitter_2013.jpg {that bell arrangement is 450 tonnes, for one bell…. requires https… as above}
upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/08/K%C3%B6lner_Dom_-_Spitze_des_Nordtumes_1881.jpg {tip of north tower, prior to completion…. requires https… as above}
upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9f/Kaiser_Wilhelm_Denkmal_K%C3%B6lner_Dom_bei_Nacht.jpg {as seen from behind the Kaiser Wilhelm statue (question: are the pedestals of your monuments in the US also so ‘nicely’ engraved from passers by?) requires https… as above}
Well, I hope you didn’t find this intrusive, but enjoyed it. Ah yes, I am proud of my Germanic roots. ‘Germanic’ instead of German, because that includes England, Saxons…. 🙂
DFD says
PS: Seems to work without the https and all that, just copy and paste.
Also, I forgot to mention 12,000 square meters or 129,167 square feet of painted and or lead glaze windowing….
gravenimage says
Wow, DFD–thank you *so much* for your photographic “tour” of Cologne Cathedral–this includes images I have never seen, such as the photographs from 1855 and 1880, and the shot of scaffolding from 1881. I definitely enjoyed and appreciated your efforts.
My main focus in Art History has been the Northern Renaissance, and I wrote papers on the Klaren Altar and the stained glass windows of the Cologne Cathedral when I was at university. I’m not sure that I would tell the equally talented Italians to “suck rocks”, but the Klaren Altar *is* quite awesome. Its combination of polychrome sculpture and painting is especially engaging.
The Cologne Cathedral is one of the great treasures of mankind, and to find it threatened by ravening Muslims angers and saddens me no end.
mortimer says
Muslims are vandalizing churches all over Europe that were once left open for the local people. Now they must be guarded. There are videos of Muslims vandalizing and blowing up churches. The IDIOT CHURCH LEADERS must now eat their words about the migrants. THE MIGRANTS ARE JIHADISTS who are DANGEROUS TO THE CHURCHES AND TO CHRISTIANS.
Every church will soon need someone armed to sit unobtrusively in the back rows to watch who comes in the church door during services and to be prepared to shoot to kill.
andra says
Synagouges have been guarded in Germany at least since 2000. Back then was an attack on the synagogue of Düsseldorf. The then Chancellor Gerd Schröder pretended it had been German neo-nazis who were responsible and started the “Fight against the Right” in Germany, which had cost millions and millions along with a lot of reputtation.
The Culprits were two Muslims who “wanted to protest against Israelian politics”. These two had been suspects right after the attack but the German government used this Muslim Terror to make up an increasing danger from the right.
https://hambacherfruehling.wordpress.com/2017/02/10/die-gefahr-durch-fake-news-am-beispiel-des-aufstands-der-anstaendigen/ (in German)
With the burning churches it will be the same Thing. They will make up some wild stories and never admit that Muslims are the traitors.
StacyGirl says
Thanks, Andra, for your edifying posts.
gravenimage says
Thanks for mentioning that, Andra.
Kay says
Terrible!
And back then they could have raised awareness.
Even now I guess many people are led astray by “news” reports so that they misidentify who actually are the victims.
Walter Sieruk says
Speaking from first hand observation about this specific city in Germany ,Cologne once during the 1980’s and then during the 1990’s I had visited that city and there was very fee Muslims living in Cologne . By the same token there seem to be no Muslims ,as far as I could tell, in Cologne at all,in that time periods During the time spend there all seemed safe i n the city of Cologne and when entering the Cologne Cathedral there was no security personal seen anywhere ,maybe none was needed at the time. Now in the twenty-first century since so much Muslim immigration things have ,obviously, changed, changed for the worse. Now with many Muslin in that city the need for guards in that Cathedral is an important reality.
Here ,again, this is a reminder of not only who disruptive and dangerous behavior by some of the Muslim migrants can be but this is also a reminder of what Brigitte Gabriel revealed in her book which is entitled BECAUSE THEY HATE. For her book informs the reader that in the Middle East there is a saying among Muslims .Which is “First comes Saturday and then comes Sunday.” This means ” First eliminate the Jews and then eliminate the Christians.” Therefore with so many Muslim in Cologne at this time. a security force may be necessary because some jihad -minded Muslims might become impatient for Saturday to come and go and then go straight for Sunday in a jihad attack.
It was folly and error in the first place to allow such religiously violence and dangerous men in Germany. There is no logic taking the chance of allowing human time bombs into that nation.
andra says
“First comes Saturday, then comes Sunday” – this fits very well for Germany. First they had to secure the synagogues, now the churches.
But your impressions of the 80ies and 90ies from Cologne are not quite the reality. Already in the 80ies there was a high population of Muslims in Cologne. (Way back in the 60ies the Cologne Arch Bishop allowed the Muslims living in Cologne to pray in the Cathedral during Ramadam). One important difference between then and today is the fact that there were hardly any Mosques and no Islam studies on German in German Schools. Back then only the elderly women wore head scarfs and everybody believed that they would disappear with the Muslims born in Germany. Today, however, it´s the young women who wear headscarfs. But today there are Mosques and religious education, and These are dangerous.
Furthermore one of the must fundamental Islamic Groups in Germany: Mili Görüs used to be located in a small vilage close to Cologne for many years. They have been openly demanding an islamic Germany for years, but nobody cares.
mortimer says
Jews are the canaries in the mine. When the Jews are attacked, OTHERS WILL BE NEXT UNTIL THEY COMPLETE THE ISLAMIC CONQUEST.
Muslims are at war with the West.
gravenimage says
True, Mortimer.
Walter Sieruk says
To andra , First, , maybe you may be right that you keyboarded concerning the time I had spent in Cologne in the 1980’s and 1990’s I may had underestimated the numbers of Muslims living in the city . Since reading between the lines you had sprent more time in the city then I had. Second , what you had keyboarded that in the 80’s and 90’s “There were hardly any mosques…” So now that are more mosques and same Muslims seem to have grown bound and arrogant and even worse lawless. Therefore , the following essay may apply to this subject.
The construction of the many mosques in both Europe and America not only means that more and more Muslims are entering those two continents and likewise more and more people in America and Europe are now being proselytized to Islam. This may be disturbing enough. In addition, this mass construction of mosques on America and Europe have still a further meaning which has been explained by a former Muslim who is now a Christian,Dr. Daniel Shayesteh, in his book ISLAM THE HOUSE I LEFT BEHIND for in page 99 it informs the reader that “The mosque is vital for establishing Muslims as sovereign over non-Muslims in a non-Islamic society or country. Building a mosque in a non-Islamic society or country symbolizes Islam’s claim over that society or country, even with a non-Muslim majority.”
andra says
And that is why Angola have torn down the Mosques.
DFD says
Gert Wilders wants to outlaw mosques and the quran if his or when his FPP wins.
Oliver says
Andra–but Angola, WHICH DEPENDED UPON ISRAELI AID AND TECHNICAL HELP, STILL VOTED FOR THE U.N. RESOLUTION.
I have no faith or belief that their government is out for anything but themselves.
gravenimage says
Andra wrote:
And that is why Angola have torn down the Mosques.
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I’m afraid the idea–much bandied about–that Angola has banned Islam and bulldozed all the Mosques there is a hoax:
“Angola denies it banned Islam, destroyed mosques”
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2013/11/angola-denies-it-banned-islam-destroyed-mosques
gravenimage says
Terrible, Walter and Andra.
Paul N Silas says
I hope that Security is issued Sig’s or HK 416’s
DFD says
Mainly MP5’s and MP7A1 and A2s
marina says
If these muslim barbarians are not deported then all historical relics, churches will be destroyed. The rich European culture will be lost. I feel so bad for the future generations. What kind or world would they be living in ?
Daniel Triplett says
A Civil War is in progress in the European Continent.
But only one side is fighting. Only one side recognizes the War: The animals who declared it.
DFD says
Dan Triplett:
Hi Dan, current score, Germany, as far as officially known: 2 attacks per day on “asylum centers” in 2016 and 3,366 assaults plus 970 “other offenses” against asylum seekers, also 2016. That’s an avg of 2.5 to 2.6 per day. About 5 times the total of 2014.
Firearms usage has been increased from 31 in 2015 to 57 in 2016.
Source: BKA (Bundes Kriminal Amt). They expect in increase in the election year, 2017. I expect an increase anyway.
Though, these resistance figures pale against the crime epidemic of the invaders. But at least, a fight back begins. See also:
jihadwatch.org/2017/02/77-of-refugees-allowed-into-u-s-since-court-blocked-trump-ban-come-from-the-7-countries-on-trumps-list/comment-page-1#comment-1615247
Furthermore, there’s fighting in France, I reported at https://www.jihadwatch.org/2017/02/denmark-16-year-old-muslima-plotted-jihad-bombings-at-schools-including-jewish-school/comment-page-1#comment-1616756
Further, two high ranking police officers in Sweden have spoken out, in Germany the head of the police union issues warning after warning, and even published books.
Several German generals have voiced their concerns, one in an open letter to Merkel. I highlighted the German military, particularly the General’s views (The Afghan Connexion), in my writings on the upcoming civil wars.
DFD says
PS: That should have been:
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2017/02/77-of-refugees-allowed-into-u-s-since-court-blocked-trump-ban-come-from-the-7-countries-on-trumps-list/comment-page-1#comment-1615247
Daniel Triplett says
Fascinating, disturbing, and frightening remarks DFD. Thanks for the info.
Merkel is powerless without the military’s support. That the German Generals are making noise, along with massive police resignations, would suggest a Revolution toward Martial Law, then some serious ass-kicking may be brewing…hopefully. That’s what Germany, and Europe, and Western Civilization needs.
I’ve suggested before, that Germany is well past the point of pinning their future on the hopes of favorable election results. Merkel may very well win again, and the competitors she’ll face who have a decent chance of success, either don’t understand the problem, or are conspirators for the treasonous destruction of their country.
It’s time to put the German military in charge until they’ve eliminated the Islamic threat. Then they can return to democratic elections. But seeing as how democracy has given rise to Merkel and the nascent destruction of Deutschland, democracy is not working right now for the Germans. It’s time for a new approach to the problem.
Considering the foregoing, if 500,000 to 1,000,000 native Germans march on the Chancellor’s Mansion, giving her just two choices, I believe the military and police would stand back and let it happen:
1. Leave your resignation papers on your desk, then walk out of the Mansion unharmed.
Or
2. We’ll remove you by force, try you for treason, then execute you; or maybe summarily execute you immediately.
If the natives don’t leave until it happens, it will happen.
Even if the military could arrest or kill 1,000,000 of their fellow Germans, which they can’t, they wouldn’t. The military and police obviously get the problem, and are just as concerned for the future of their country as the natives.
Daniel Triplett says
“…serious ass-kicking and forced apostasy,” that is.
gravenimage says
Why do you want Islam to force us to give up on democracy? There is no democracy in Islam.
Daniel Triplett says
@gravenimage
We started talking about this a bit before, regarding Egypt as an example, but I don’t think we finished that conversation.
I understand I’m more hawkish than you, and you make reasonable arguments about your less hawkish views. But I think you’re reading too much into what I said.
I know what Islam is, and know it contravenes democracy. I’m a USAF Officer with a lifetime Commission to support and defend our Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic, with my life. I’ve spent six years full-time in combat operations during the Islamic War. So, of course I would never advocate the surrender of either freedom or democracy to Islam.
I’m not suggesting WE, as Americans, or any other freedom-loving democratic nations give up on democracy. I’m not even suggesting the Germans give up on democracy–and I am only speaking of Germany here.
I’m simply suggesting that Deutschland suspends democracy, putting in charge the top German Military General for the sake of German National Security, versus a dangerous and incompetent civilian CINC, until they’ve eliminated the nascent existential threat to their nation’s very existence.
Angela Merkel is making dangerously wrong decisions about her country’s national security that are threatening the future of her country’s existence in the long-term. In the short-term, her decisions are wreaking all kinds of havoc six ways from Sunday nationwide.
You’re reading about all the hijrah immigration problems in Germany just as I, so I need not brief you on the multitude of serious problems the native Germans, and Europeans, are facing right now, and have been since Angela opened the gates.
So, democracy gave Deutschland Merkel, which was a bad day for democracy in that country. I’m certainly not suggesting democracy won’t work well for Germany in the future. Democracy has worked well for Germany in the past. But right now, in the short-term, democracy isn’t producing for Germans the civilian leadership necessary to make sound decisions which guarantee a secure nation that will survive.
Germany has two major parties; the CDU/CSU and the SPD, and 10 – 15 minor parties.
Angela Merkel represents the CDU, of the CDU/CSU Party, which is by far the largest. The party winning the largest number of parliamentary seats picks the Chancellor.
On 24SEP2017, Germans will hold their next federal election. In 2013, the CDU/CSU party won with 41.5% of the vote. The SPD had 25.7%. Of the rest of the minor parties, the Linke Party lead with just 8.6% of the vote. Although the parties have tightened up significantly for 2017, the 2013 results illustrate what a tremendous advantage Merkel will have as she runs for her fourth term as Chancellor. She’s held the office since 2005.
The party with the most Anti-Islamic ideology is the AfD Party, which won 4.7% of the vote in 2013. Moreover, there’s recently been a large portion of the AfD Party which split off, making their unity even weaker.
A recent poll on 7JAN2017, showed the CDU/CSU Party leading with 38%, with the SPD coming in second with 22%. Due to widespread Anti-Islam sentiment among the natives, the AfD Party has grown in popularity since 2013, and now has 12% in the poll.
Bottom line: Angela Merkel is projected to enjoy an easy victory on 24SEP2017, in her bid for a fourth term as Germany’s Head of State for another 4 years. This is bad news of the highest order for Deutschland, the European Continent, and Western Civilization. Four years will give Merkel a whole lot of time to create horrific, irreparable amounts of damage to Liberty in Dar al-Harb.
Democracy in Germany is producing dangerous results, right now.
Perhaps now you can better see my point: Deutschland, the European Continent, and Western Civilization are all much better served by temporarily suspending German democracy, putting the top German Military General in charge as the German CINC under Martial Law during the Islamic War, thus ensuring Germany’s security and future survival.
German Martial Law is a much better option than four more years of Angela Merkel for all freedom-loving people Worldwide.
Germany is unique in this regard.
For example, democracy is producing good results right now in Hungary, the Netherlands, and possibly France.
Anti-Islam Viktor Orban is a strong Hungarian Head of State. Anti-Islam Geert Wilders will likely become the next Dutch Head of State. And Anti-Islam Marine Le Pen has a good shot at becoming the next French Head of State.
gravenimage says
Daniel Triplett wrote:
@gravenimage
We started talking about this a bit before, regarding Egypt as an example, but I don’t think we finished that conversation.
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Thanks for your lengthy reply, Daniel. Yes, I remember that exchange–I very much agree that Egypt under military coup with Al-Sisi is *much* better than it would have been under the Muslim Brotherhood–I just don’t see Egypt, or Turkey, or any other Islamic sh*t hole as a model for the free West.
And while things are better under Al-Sisi than under the Muslim Brotherhood, Christians and Muslim apostates are still threatened, attacked, and murdered there, and seldom get any justice from the state. This is *not* an ideal situation, nor, I believe, a model for us to follow.
More:
I understand I’m more hawkish than you, and you make reasonable arguments about your less hawkish views. But I think you’re reading too much into what I said.
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Actually, Daniel, I can be very hawkish, and I very much support our military–I just don’t want to see it used on our own citizens.
More:
I know what Islam is, and know it contravenes democracy. I’m a USAF Officer with a lifetime Commission to support and defend our Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic, with my life. I’ve spent six years full-time in combat operations during the Islamic War. So, of course I would never advocate the surrender of either freedom or democracy to Islam.
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Thank you for your service, Daniel.
But if any part of the West becomes a third-world military dictatorship on these grounds, then it would be as a reaction to Islam. That would be our surrendering democracy as a reaction to Islam.
More:
I’m not suggesting WE, as Americans, or any other freedom-loving democratic nations give up on democracy. I’m not even suggesting the Germans give up on democracy–and I am only speaking of Germany here.
I’m simply suggesting that Deutschland suspends democracy, putting in charge the top German Military General for the sake of German National Security, versus a dangerous and incompetent civilian CINC, until they’ve eliminated the nascent existential threat to their nation’s very existence.
Angela Merkel is making dangerously wrong decisions about her country’s national security that are threatening the future of her country’s existence in the long-term. In the short-term, her decisions are wreaking all kinds of havoc six ways from Sunday nationwide.
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This is all true–and I am in *no way* making light of it..
But as dangerous and appalling as the Obama administration was, would I have preferred a military take-over? No, I would not have. I think Germany should vote out Merkel, just as we voted out the Democrats here.
More:
You’re reading about all the hijrah immigration problems in Germany just as I, so I need not brief you on the multitude of serious problems the native Germans, and Europeans, are facing right now, and have been since Angela opened the gates.
So, democracy gave Deutschland Merkel, which was a bad day for democracy in that country. I’m certainly not suggesting democracy won’t work well for Germany in the future. Democracy has worked well for Germany in the past. But right now, in the short-term, democracy isn’t producing for Germans the civilian leadership necessary to make sound decisions which guarantee a secure nation that will survive.
Germany has two major parties; the CDU/CSU and the SPD, and 10 – 15 minor parties.
Angela Merkel represents the CDU, of the CDU/CSU Party, which is by far the largest. The party winning the largest number of parliamentary seats picks the Chancellor.
On 24SEP2017, Germans will hold their next federal election. In 2013, the CDU/CSU party won with 41.5% of the vote. The SPD had 25.7%. Of the rest of the minor parties, the Linke Party lead with just 8.6% of the vote. Although the parties have tightened up significantly for 2017, the 2013 results illustrate what a tremendous advantage Merkel will have as she runs for her fourth term as Chancellor. She’s held the office since 2005.
The party with the most Anti-Islamic ideology is the AfD Party, which won 4.7% of the vote in 2013. Moreover, there’s recently been a large portion of the AfD Party which split off, making their unity even weaker.
A recent poll on 7JAN2017, showed the CDU/CSU Party leading with 38%, with the SPD coming in second with 22%. Due to widespread Anti-Islam sentiment among the natives, the AfD Party has grown in popularity since 2013, and now has 12% in the poll.
Bottom line: Angela Merkel is projected to enjoy an easy victory on 24SEP2017, in her bid for a fourth term as Germany’s Head of State for another 4 years. This is bad news of the highest order for Deutschland, the European Continent, and Western Civilization. Four years will give Merkel a whole lot of time to create horrific, irreparable amounts of damage to Liberty in Dar al-Harb.
Democracy in Germany is producing dangerous results, right now.
Perhaps now you can better see my point: Deutschland, the European Continent, and Western Civilization are all much better served by temporarily suspending German democracy, putting the top German Military General in charge as the German CINC under Martial Law during the Islamic War, thus ensuring Germany’s security and future survival.
German Martial Law is a much better option than four more years of Angela Merkel for all freedom-loving people Worldwide.
Germany is unique in this regard.
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I am familiar with the political situation in Germany, and I understand the danger.
But I disagree with you in thinking we should happily turn Germany into Egypt or Gaddafi-era Libya–even if this were possible.
And given the infiltration of Muslims into the German military, your assumption that a military dictatorship would be solidly Anti-Jihad is a bit questionable.
More:
For example, democracy is producing good results right now in Hungary, the Netherlands, and possibly France.
Anti-Islam Viktor Orban is a strong Hungarian Head of State. Anti-Islam Geert Wilders will likely become the next Dutch Head of State. And Anti-Islam Marine Le Pen has a good shot at becoming the next French Head of State.
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And how will these nations fare with the largest country in Europe under military dictatorship? Likely not well…
I am well aware of how hard-fought democracy is, historically. Thinking you can just toss it aside whenever you decide it is warranted and assuming that it can simply be resumed thereafter is, with all respect, I believe very questionable.
Personally, I think a completely unfree Germany would be even more at risk of Islamization than as things stand now.
DFD says
For Graven, and perhaps Dan
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Hi Graven, I put a picture show together about Cologne Cathedral. Given your, and Charli’s as well as Andra’s, remarks in that particular thread, I thought that this might interest you and that you will, hopefully, enjoy it.
Here’s the link: https://www.jihadwatch.org/2017/02/germany-security-personnel-to-be-permanently-stationed-at-cologne-cathedral/comment-page-1#comment-1617576
Please Note:
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The links work without the https and all that, just copy and paste – and enjoy. At least, I hope you do.
Daniel Triplett says
@gravenimage
We seem to have a bit of daylight still between us for some reason. I’m not sure I can close the gap with the short time I have available, but I can offer a response in brief.
”I just don’t see Egypt, or Turkey, or any other Islamic sh*t hole as a model for the free West.”
You have it backward.
You won’t find the words “Martial Law” anywhere in the Koran or Sunnah, because it’s a Western creation and system of governance. The Ummah didn’t invent it.
Egypt used the West as a model. Not the other way around.
“And while things are better under Al-Sisi than under the Muslim Brotherhood, Christians and Muslim apostates are still threatened, attacked, and murdered there, and seldom get any justice from the state.”
At the end of the day, Al-Sisi is Muslim, so where would you expect his loyalties and sympathies to lie; with the Muslims or with the Kafirs?
“I can be very hawkish, and I very much support our military–I just don’t want to see it used on our own citizens.”
I never suggested we use Martial Law on OUR citizens. I suggested to the Germans they may consider it the better option temporarily.
Perhaps you’re making Martial Law into something it’s not. It’s not that big of a deal. Here’s how it’s defined:
Martial law is the imposition of the highest-ranking military officer as the military governor or as the head of the government, assisted by a Supreme Council of the Armed Forces, thus removing all power from the previous executive, legislative, and judicial branches of government. It’s usually imposed temporarily when the government or civilian authorities fail to function effectively (e.g., maintain order and security, or provide essential services).
Martial Law has been used in America many times on American citizens. Some examples:
The American Revolution
New Orleans, Louisiana in the War of 1812
The Great Chicago Fire of 1871
Coeur d’Alene, Idaho, 1892, in response to striking mine workers
San Francisco earthquake of 1906
Colorado Coalfield War, 1914
The West Virginia Coal Wars (1920–1921)
San Francisco, California, 1934, resulting from a dock worker’s strike
The Territory of Hawaii (1939-1945)
…and others
“…if any part of the West becomes a third-world military dictatorship on these grounds, then it would be as a reaction to Islam. That would be our surrendering democracy as a reaction to Islam.”
Who said anything about a “third-world military dictatorship?”
And what “grounds” are you talking about?
And as I’ve said, Martial Law is a Western concept, not Islamic. We’d be surrendering nothing to Islam.
Martial Law in Germany, as I’ve suggested, doesn’t mean putting a Hitler, Nazis, or SS Squads in charge. If that’s how you imagine it, you should reconsider.
Just imagine Geert Wilders or Viktor Orban in charge, while wearing a military uniform with stars on his shoulders. I’m talking about regular, normal, rational, free, good people. People just like you and me. These are the kinds of people who form Dar al-Harb’s militaries today.
Martial Law is just a way for a military officer of sound conscience and morals (someone like you, I, or Robert Spencer) to have authority to get right down to the business of restoring security and safety; bypassing the lengthy, political, often unsuccessful systems of legislative bureaucracy.
“…as dangerous and appalling as the Obama administration was, would I have preferred a military take-over? No, I would not have.”
As horrible, rotten, and dangerous Obama’s administration was, never were Americans in the type of peril Germans and other Western Europeans are facing today.
Moreover, term limits rescued Americans from Obama’s destruction. Can you imagine what kind of damage Caliph Ohammad could’ve done with unlimited power?
Germany has no such term limits for the office of Chancellor.
“I think Germany should vote out Merkel, just as we voted out the Democrats here.”
Reference my previous post.
The Germans are not voting out Merkel. For some crazy reason, this September, Germans will give her another four years as their Head of State.
And in 2021, she may very well win again. And again. And again…
Germans are well past the point of pinning their lives and the future survival of their country on the hopes of favorable election results. The results in September will not be favorable, and will in fact yield more grave danger to them.
Angela Merkel is suicide for Germany.
“…given the infiltration of Muslims into the German military, your assumption that a military dictatorship would be solidly Anti-Jihad is a bit questionable.”
“And how will these nations fare with the largest country in Europe under military dictatorship? Likely not well…”
Again, I suggested Martial Law, which is not a “military dictatorship.”
You make a fair point about widespread Muslim infiltration into the German Military. However, as with the US Military, it’s the 10 Generals at the top who control military rules. I doubt any Muslims hold those German posts.
The CINC alone determines policy, both foreign and domestic, along with military ROE. Right now, the German CINC is Angela Merkel. The German frau with zero military training or experience hasn’t been doing a great job so far, nor does she recognize the giant grave into which she’s throwing her entire country. Much better at this point in history to have a well trained and experienced military veteran employ the tough measures necessary to restore German National Security, IMO.
I’m a US Military officer, so I can best speak to the capabilities of the American Military, but since America trains many German Military officers too, I’m sure their military is not too different.
Were the US Military able to call all the shots, there’s no war we couldn’t win…in short order. The problem is that civilian politics always interfere. That said, of course I’m not suggesting we eliminate our system of elected civilian control of the military. We have the finest system of government on Earth. I hope it lasts.
I have confidence President Trump gets it, even though he’s never been a military officer. He’s a fighter, and using the advice of his military advisors, he’ll take a very big fight to the Ummah. He’s building our Alliance with other Kafir nuke states right now, as the requisite first step. He’s no idiot.
“I am well aware of how hard-fought democracy is, historically. Thinking you can just toss it aside whenever you decide it is warranted and assuming that it can simply be resumed thereafter is, with all respect, I believe very questionable.”
For first-world countries, you’re wrong. Reference my list above for many examples of how often Martial Law has been used temporarily inside American borders.
“Personally, I think a completely unfree Germany would be even more at risk of Islamization than as things stand now.”
Apparently, the totally free and democratic Germany isn’t working well right now, which is why we’re having this discussion.
Daniel Triplett says
@DFD
Thanks for the photo tour. The Cologne Cathedral is stunning.
My airline has a gigantic hub and sorting facility in Cologne, and our crew hotel is right on the Cathedral Square. I’ve spent a whole lot of time in Cologne, and have visited the Cathedral many times. It never gets old.
I pray the Muslims don’t damage it.
gravenimage says
Thank you, DFD. I replied to you under the comment you linked to.
gravenimage says
Daniel Triplett wrote:
@gravenimage
We seem to have a bit of daylight still between us for some reason. I’m not sure I can close the gap with the short time I have available, but I can offer a response in brief.
”I just don’t see Egypt, or Turkey, or any other Islamic sh*t hole as a model for the free West.”
You have it backward.
You won’t find the words “Martial Law” anywhere in the Koran or Sunnah, because it’s a Western creation and system of governance. The Ummah didn’t invent it.
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It is true that Islam did not invent martial law, but since there is no separation of mosque and state in Islam, it would be an artificial distinction, anyway.
Certainly, the Muslim ruler being a strongman has always been the case.
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Egypt used the West as a model. Not the other way around.
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Well, sort of–but to the extent that he used the West as an example it was not the free West, but more like Franco’s Spain.
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“And while things are better under Al-Sisi than under the Muslim Brotherhood, Christians and Muslim apostates are still threatened, attacked, and murdered there, and seldom get any justice from the state.”
At the end of the day, Al-Sisi is Muslim, so where would you expect his loyalties and sympathies to lie; with the Muslims or with the Kafirs?
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If this were a truly decent regime, then he would be concerned with protecting *all* of his citizens. Were I in politics, I would protect Infidel and Muslim citizens. But under Islam, the Kafir are never better than second-class citizens. The only saving grace there is that he is not actually *leading* the genocide, as the Muslim Brotherhood would have been.
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“I can be very hawkish, and I very much support our military–I just don’t want to see it used on our own citizens.”
I never suggested we use Martial Law on OUR citizens. I suggested to the Germans they may consider it the better option temporarily.
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With all respect, Daniel, if martial law were used to oust a democratically elected representative–even an idiot–this *would* be using the military against Germany’s own people.
More:
Perhaps you’re making Martial Law into something it’s not. It’s not that big of a deal. Here’s how it’s defined:
Martial law is the imposition of the highest-ranking military officer as the military governor or as the head of the government, assisted by a Supreme Council of the Armed Forces, thus removing all power from the previous executive, legislative, and judicial branches of government. It’s usually imposed temporarily when the government or civilian authorities fail to function effectively (e.g., maintain order and security, or provide essential services).
Martial Law has been used in America many times on American citizens. Some examples:
The American Revolution
New Orleans, Louisiana in the War of 1812
The Great Chicago Fire of 1871
Coeur d’Alene, Idaho, 1892, in response to striking mine workers
San Francisco earthquake of 1906
Colorado Coalfield War, 1914
The West Virginia Coal Wars (1920–1921)
San Francisco, California, 1934, resulting from a dock worker’s strike
The Territory of Hawaii (1939-1945)
…and others
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I know the history of martial law being imposed in the United States in a limited way during emergencies. But this is different–this is a civilian governor or president imposing martial law, a *very different matter* from the military itself deciding to take over.
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“…if any part of the West becomes a third-world military dictatorship on these grounds, then it would be as a reaction to Islam. That would be our surrendering democracy as a reaction to Islam.”
Who said anything about a “third-world military dictatorship?”
And what “grounds” are you talking about?
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If the military were to take over anywhere in the West, then I would indeed consider it a “third-world [style] military dictatorship”. I’m not sure how you would characterize it.
And the “grounds” I am referring to is the military taking over because of the civilian government’s policies on Islam–in that case, the military takeover would indeed be due to Islam.
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And as I’ve said, Martial Law is a Western concept, not Islamic. We’d be surrendering nothing to Islam.
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If we gave up democracy in the West in favor of a military dictatorship, then we would indeed be abandoning democracy due to Islam. It would not matter whether martial law is a specifically Islamic concept for this to be the case.
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Martial Law in Germany, as I’ve suggested, doesn’t mean putting a Hitler, Nazis, or SS Squads in charge. If that’s how you imagine it, you should reconsider.
Just imagine Geert Wilders or Viktor Orban in charge, while wearing a military uniform with stars on his shoulders. I’m talking about regular, normal, rational, free, good people. People just like you and me. These are the kinds of people who form Dar al-Harb’s militaries today.
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Viktor Orbán was elected as Prime Minster–*twice*, in fact. And while I can’t speak for him, I don’t believe that the civilized Geert Wilders wants to be installed in a military coup–instead, he has been intent on presenting his case to the Dutch voters.
And how would it warp civilian rule if they knew the military was apt to take over at any time?
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Martial Law is just a way for a military officer of sound conscience and morals (someone like you, I, or Robert Spencer) to have authority to get right down to the business of restoring security and safety; bypassing the lengthy, political, often unsuccessful systems of legislative bureaucracy.
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Thank you for your estimation of my conscience and morals–I appreciate it. You must also know that I would not want such unilateral power. I believe our strength is democracy and the rule of law.
I have the greatest respect for Western military–but I do not believe its role is–or should be–to rule.
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“…as dangerous and appalling as the Obama administration was, would I have preferred a military take-over? No, I would not have.”
As horrible, rotten, and dangerous Obama’s administration was, never were Americans in the type of peril Germans and other Western Europeans are facing today.
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This is true–things are far more dire in Germany–in much of Western Europe, in fact–as in in the United States. I have always noted this.
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Moreover, term limits rescued Americans from Obama’s destruction. Can you imagine what kind of damage Caliph Ohammad could’ve done with unlimited power?
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If Obama had declared himself Caliph and seized complete power, I assure you I would now be a member of the resistance. I would probably not make much of a warrior–I’m sure my contributions would be more along the lines of creating inspirational posters and forging travel documents–but I definitely would be in the fight.
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Germany has no such term limits for the office of Chancellor.
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Yes–this does make idiots like Merkel potentially more of a danger–but Americans could have elected Hillary Clinton, who would have continued most of Obama’s harmful policies.
But I do believe that increasing numbers of ordinary Germans are recognizing how harmful the flood of Muslims into Germany is.
This, from last Summer:
“Germany: 50% Feel Threatened By Islam, 41% Want To Stop Muslim Migration”
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/06/15/germany-tolerance-islam-wearing-thin/
This has been growing, and I imagine the numbers are higher now.
con’t
gravenimage says
con’t
“I think Germany should vote out Merkel, just as we voted out the Democrats here.”
Reference my previous post.
The Germans are not voting out Merkel. For some crazy reason, this September, Germans will give her another four years as their Head of State.
And in 2021, she may very well win again. And again. And again…
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I don’t think this is a fait accompli, Daniel. This, from last Autumn:
“Chancellor Merkel’s party suffers loss in home state over migrant policy”
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2016/09/04/merkels-migrant-policy-focus-vote-german-chancellors-home-state/89863102/
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Germans are well past the point of pinning their lives and the future survival of their country on the hopes of favorable election results. The results in September will not be favorable, and will in fact yield more grave danger to them.
Angela Merkel is suicide for Germany.
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I agree with the last–but I don’t believe the military is poised to seize power there, either.
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“…given the infiltration of Muslims into the German military, your assumption that a military dictatorship would be solidly Anti-Jihad is a bit questionable.”
“And how will these nations fare with the largest country in Europe under military dictatorship? Likely not well…”
Again, I suggested Martial Law, which is not a “military dictatorship.”
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If it is the military that is seizing power, and not the civilian authorities declaring martial law, then–with respect–this is a distinction without a difference.
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You make a fair point about widespread Muslim infiltration into the German Military. However, as with the US Military, it’s the 10 Generals at the top who control military rules. I doubt any Muslims hold those German posts.
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This is true. But assuming that they are all both willing to seize power and are Islamo-savvy is rather questionable. Certainly, there are high-ranking American generals such as Petraeus who are dumb as a box of rocks when it comes to grasping the threat of Islam. I don’t know that it is any different in Germany.
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The CINC alone determines policy, both foreign and domestic, along with military ROE. Right now, the German CINC is Angela Merkel. The German frau with zero military training or experience hasn’t been doing a great job so far, nor does she recognize the giant grave into which she’s throwing her entire country. Much better at this point in history to have a well trained and experienced military veteran employ the tough measures necessary to restore German National Security, IMO.
I’m a US Military officer, so I can best speak to the capabilities of the American Military, but since America trains many German Military officers too, I’m sure their military is not too different.
Were the US Military able to call all the shots, there’s no war we couldn’t win…in short order. The problem is that civilian politics always interfere.
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This was certainly true in Vietnam. But it is civilian authorities who decide where to go to war in the first place.
Certainly, countries under military dictatorship do not a great record of good governance, to put it mildly.
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That said, of course I’m not suggesting we eliminate our system of elected civilian control of the military. We have the finest system of government on Earth. I hope it lasts.
I have confidence President Trump gets it, even though he’s never been a military officer. He’s a fighter, and using the advice of his military advisors, he’ll take a very big fight to the Ummah. He’s building our Alliance with other Kafir nuke states right now, as the requisite first step. He’s no idiot.
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Yes–Trump has some gaps in his understanding of the Jihad threat, but his instincts are good, and it looks as though he has some good people advising him. I’m sure mistakes will be made, but over all I am quite hopeful.
And even if he were no better than George Bush, he would still be a *vast* improvement over his predecessor.
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“I am well aware of how hard-fought democracy is, historically. Thinking you can just toss it aside whenever you decide it is warranted and assuming that it can simply be resumed thereafter is, with all respect, I believe very questionable.”
For first-world countries, you’re wrong. Reference my list above for many examples of how often Martial Law has been used temporarily inside American borders.
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As I noted above, the United States has *never* been under military dictatorship. There has always been a president in charge–there was a clean transition of power even in the case of the death of a president through illness or assassination, and a temporary assumption and return of power in case of a president being indisposed, as when Reagan was shot and recovering form his injury.
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“Personally, I think a completely unfree Germany would be even more at risk of Islamization than as things stand now.”
Apparently, the totally free and democratic Germany isn’t working well right now, which is why we’re having this discussion.
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True enough–but a Germany under military dictatorship would be apt to be even worse for the future of freedom in Europe.
I will probably leave the discussion on this topic here–I very much take a lot of your points, I just foresee very different solutions.
I think that we have, overall, created the most advanced and civilized societies in the history of the world in the West–no mean feat, and something for us to be very, very proud of.
I want to defend those values–and I believe that many other good people throughout the West will, as well.
Interesting discussion, and thanks again.
Charli Main says
There are also ” brown” Christian refugees ( genuine) in Germany. Are Muslims being attacked or just anyone that is ” brown” ???
DFD says
Hi Charli,
There are no Christians being attacked in Germany, except by the Muslims. Not only in the ‘refugee centers’, but in Churches too, as well as the Churches themselves. As is the case all over Europe, and, I think, is by now beginning in the US.
Various parsons and clergymen have asked for Christians to be removed to separate shelters, the gov. said ‘no’. Translators routinely misinterpret what Christians say.
Other attacks on Christians, German Christians that is, are verbal and on websites/social sites such as twitter, facebook, etc. Usually carried out by Antifas/Soros groups. Example: ‘If Mary had aborted, we would not have to suffer Christ/Christianity’. As everywhere in Europe.
Antifa’s US actions are now rapidly increasing, in scope and in intensity. Not surprisingly, Antifa, all sections and branches are rooted in the School of Frankfurt, which in turn is much stronger in the US than in Europe. Additionally, their main ally and financial supporters are US based NGOs, Soros etc.
If you want to understand what happened over the last 50, 60 years,
**LEARN ABOUT THE SCHOOL**
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Schiller institue is a good start, it’s in English.
You will find everything in there, from political correctness, to multi-gender, to anti-Christianity etc. et cetera est. **EVERYTHING!** From Herbert Marcus to Noam Chomsky. The school is not just fully operating, it has expanded and extended, thanks to Soros and Co. To them Kalergi and Hooton are catechisms.
I recently posted about the Hootonians, if you want the link, let me know. It has been fully accepted and adopted by the Antifas and Soros, and of course the Muslims, an ‘Allah send’ for them. Though, bear in mind, the foundation for today’s situation are the school and Kalergi. Kalergi and Hooton are “mere” implementations.
Charli Main says
@DFD
Many thanks for reassuring answer. My concern is that there never appears to be any shortage of people ready and willing to attack or criticise ” brown ” people simply because they are “brown”.
The fight we have on our hands is against Muslims and Islam, not a race war where ALL ” brown” people are demonised.
Very best regards
DFD says
Charli Main
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Hi Charli, I put a picture show together about Cologne Cathedral. Given your, and Graven’s as well as Andra’s, remarks in that thread, I thought that this might interest you and that you will, hopefully, enjoy it.
Here’s the link: https://www.jihadwatch.org/2017/02/germany-security-personnel-to-be-permanently-stationed-at-cologne-cathedral/comment-page-1#comment-1617576
I hope you like it.
andra says
With the figures that refer to attacks on asylum Centers you have to Keep one Thing in mind.
As Long as it is not obvious what has happened the incident is registered as “violence from right”.
E.g. there was an asylum Center planned in Bavaria about a couple of years ago (Vorra, for those who know Germany). The incident was promoted by politics and press as a right-wing strike against refugees. In the end it turned out that the Kosovarian building constuctor of the building burnt it down for insurance fraud.
Another prominent example was the murder of a refugee in Dresden. All the press and politics screamed: Nazi!!! Pegida was accused to be respnosible for increasing violence. In the end it was a room mate, refugee as well, who had killed Khaled because of an argument referring the housekeeping.
You see, not all German figures that are labelled “violence from right” or even Nazi are Violence from right.
DFD says
I see your point and am aware of this. The BKA figures are correct and refer to **resistance** actions by Germans exclusively. Though they don’t call these resistance actions.
Actions of which the perpetrators are unknown are listed separately, as are those actions carried out by Muslims themselves.
Go to the BKA https://www.bka.de/DE/Home/home_node.html and from there to the “Polizeiliche Kriminalstatistik” it’s very detailed.
Hope you find this useful
Angemon says
Or, in accordance with Sadiq Khan, “get used to it”.
gravenimage says
Muslims and dhimmis want us to consider this barbarism the “new normal”.
davej says
“people must not be afraid”. If I was visiting a Church that had to have armed guards surrounding it, I would be afraid (or at least concerned). If it was a site that did not need to have such security I would be less afraid.
Mockingjay says
– All of this has NOTHING whatsoever to do with the Cologne “sex attacks”.
– The “Kölner Dom” is one of the oldest and most impressive symbols of (North) European Christianity.
THAT is the REAL reason behind all this new security – even if the article “forgets” to mention it: it would be a TREMENDOUS victory for the islamists if they were to succeed in blowing it -if only partially- up
gravenimage says
Mockingjay wrote:
– All of this has NOTHING whatsoever to do with the Cologne “sex attacks”.
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Mockingjay, raping Infidel women and destroying art and Infidel places of worship are of a piece. These are all attacks by Muslims on their Kuffar hosts.
gravenimage says
Germany: Security personnel to be permanently stationed at Cologne Cathedral
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If the barbarians were not within the gates, this would never be necessary.
Baucent says
“We have to do more to ensure safety,” the provost said. However, that personnel should still act “proportionately”.
I see, so what is the safety risk? Name the safety threat that personnel are acting to minimize.
Come closer and I will whisper it….islam.
gravenimage says
They don’t want to say what the risk is–not out loud, anyway…
steve says
Suggest we re-name rape or assaults by immigrants on German girls as ‘MERKELING’ Dictionary would describe MERKELING as, Noun, Unlawful, unwanted, but legally allowed sexual interference. Accepted by German Government as a necessary price to pay to integrate mass immigration. Such assaults officially disguised as temporary, fully understandable and excusable.