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Hard-Left appeals court rules against national security, Trump’s immigration ban

Feb 9, 2017 7:40 pm By Robert Spencer

This was predictable, which doesn’t make it any less inexcusable. The idea that the President of the United States cannot take steps to defend the nation and secure the borders is absurd and ultimately suicidal. We have had eight years of absurd and suicidal rule by globalist internationalists. The Supreme Court now needs to give them a final repudiation.

“Trump Dealt Major Setback as Appeals Court Sides With Immigrants,” by Erik Larson and Kartikay Mehrotra, Bloomberg, February 9, 2017:

A federal appeals court ruled unanimously that the U.S. will remain open to refugees and visa holders from seven Muslim-majority countries, rejecting a bid by the Trump administration to reinstate a travel ban in the name of national security.

The San Francisco-based appeals court on Thursday spurned the government’s request to close the doors after days of public debate over President Donald Trump’s attacks on the judicial system and a rush of fearful immigrants. The ruling increases the likelihood that the administration will ask the Supreme Court to step into a case that’s the biggest test of Trump’s executive power yet.

Trump was defiant, tweeting within minutes of the ruling, “SEE YOU IN COURT. THE SECURITY OF OUR NATION IS AT STAKE!”

The panel’s ruling in favor of immigrants is a victory not only for Washington and Minnesota — the states that sued — but for Facebook Inc., Google Inc. and Microsoft Corp., which said in court papers that the measure would hinder their global businesses.

The public “has an interest in free flow of travel, in avoiding separation of families, and in freedom from discrimination,” the three-judge panel said in a 29-page ruling….

The public has an interest in not allowing jihad terrorists into the U.S.

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  1. David Scoltock says

    Feb 9, 2017 at 7:44 pm

    Come on Spencer, this is bull even for you.

    If Trump was serious about protecting America he’d of included saudi and pakistan. You may remember that the 9/11 pilots where Saudi and bib laden was hiding in pakistan.

    This ban was a bunch of crappy, token countries that have nothing to offer america in trade deals or arm sales so Trump can claim he’s fulfilling his campaign promises.

    • Sam says

      Feb 9, 2017 at 7:53 pm

      OK fellow conservative David. Don’t give any chance to Trump to do anything,. He needs to start somewhere. What the hell do you want this guy to do? Give money to IRAN like Obama?

      We need to help Trump so more Jihadis do not come to US. We have more than enough here already right?. Your reasoning is strange David.

      • David Scoltock says

        Feb 9, 2017 at 8:04 pm

        Firstly, i am not a conservative, I’m a left leaning British centrist.

        I think the best thing right now is to do the job properly in Iraq. Don’t piss off what passes for their government by a token ban.

        The invasion of Iraq was a screw up, no marshal plan like in post war Germany.

        You want a war on terror? Fight a bloody war on terror! Put the proper man power and resources into Iraq and fight the total war isis is terrified of.

        Don’t wait for them to come to you, carpet bomb Raqqa, USE strength and stop being afraid of body bags.

        At the height of the British Empire do you think we controlled the middle east by closing our borders and making empty threats? We controlled it with force and when that resolve weakened we had bloody reminders like the Mahdi’s uprising in Sudan to teach us this folly.

        Do the job properly or don’t bloody do it at all. All this crap is the result of 50 years of half measures and proxy wars.

        • euwei says

          Feb 9, 2017 at 8:57 pm

          YOU have NO SAY in how the US DEFENDS Itself
          Your UK is Islamic Conquerd Territory

        • Mo says

          Feb 9, 2017 at 10:50 pm

          @ David Scoltock

          “Firstly, i am not a conservative, I’m a left leaning British centrist.”

          Then deal with your own country’s issues and leave us alone to deal with ours.

        • linnte says

          Feb 10, 2017 at 12:03 am

          You got your nerve telling Trump what he should be doing when your Government is complicit in Pakistani rape gangs, Sharia courts, and other bullcrap stuff like not allowing discourse about Islam.

          Trump is using the list that Obama have to him as proven sanctuaries for terrorists, and it is just a beginning step; no where near finished. So this has nothing to do with his business deals with other Islamic countries; it comes from Obama. Actually this is an EXCELLENT test run for Trump. And when he wins in Supreme Court, which he will, Then he will have a free licence to put the cabosh on other Islamic countries. They should all be banned until a method of vetting is in place to truly weed out the potential jihadis. But personally? I don’t want any Muslims coming here and sneaking their Sharia courts into their communities.

        • More Ham Ed says

          Feb 10, 2017 at 1:15 am

          “All this crap is the result of 50 years of half measures and proxy wars.” blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.

          Not a day over 22 and still in his mother’s basement.
          GO GET YOUR OWN WEBSITE.
          You can call it broadbrushgeneralist.uk.

        • Jon Sobieski says

          Feb 10, 2017 at 1:44 am

          Apparently you are not aware that England is being sucked dry by Islam. Buy some kneepads, you are going to need them.

        • Phil says

          Feb 10, 2017 at 5:18 am

          It is precisely your disturbed Brit logic and multicultural open borders that have gotten you hundreds of legally operating shariah courts all over England Davis Scoltock. Lets see how smart you think that was when they start LEGALLY throwing gays off of high buildings as is prescribed by Mohamed in the Quran.

          First you secure your own country and its borders. Then you deal with the problem that George Jr (another globalist sellout) started in Iraq.

        • ECAW says

          Feb 10, 2017 at 7:52 am

          Don’t be a knob David. We might need them again.

        • Chris in Texas says

          Feb 10, 2017 at 8:05 am

          David , you are an idiot ,your country is well on it’s way to the point of no return , overrun with Islamists who will force you to submit to SHARIA law , pay jizzia , or die !
          And you have the gall to lecture us on what we are doing wrong to stop the invasion of Muslims seeking to change our American way of life !
          You are a typical liberal left wing loon ! Telling us we need to kill them all ! Complaining about our policies while doing nothing about your own problem ! How bout you bugger off !

        • jak says

          Feb 10, 2017 at 11:48 am

          Who gives a flying freak what you think. You guys give your country away to Islam if you wish our election shows we are not willing to follow your lame example.
          If you can’t control who comes in how is that even a country?

        • Screeminmeeme says

          Feb 10, 2017 at 1:57 pm

          As a ‘left leaning British centrist’, you are in no position to criticize what our president is doing.

          Europe’s leftist ideologues…..especially in the UK…..are complicit in the Islamization of their countries. In the name of the Marxist twins of political correctness and multiculturalism ….coupled with a clear disregard for Christianity….Britain’s leaders have sold out their citizens and by their suicidal policies have capitulated to Islam.

          You simply can’t bring yourselves to admit that there ARE cultures that are superior to others…..that the liberty and respect for humanity that Western Civilization (based on the Judeo/Christian ethic) provides are preferable to the barbarism and servitude of Islam. Appeasement of the crocodile will only ensure that you’re the meal eaten last.(Churchill)

          You will never beat an enemy you refuse to acknowledge and like the braindead left in America, the Brits make excuses for Islam by insisting that it’s been high-jacked and radicalized. Nothing could be further from the truth. Normative Islam is radical to its core…..violent, misogynistic and genocidal. And it’s bloody 14 century history of human suffering empirically proves it.

          Do something in YOUR country to conquer the most malevolent and vile ideology ever to have been imagined by man before you give advice to President Trump, who loves his country enough to actually take steps to protect it.

      • SaipanSam says

        Feb 9, 2017 at 8:28 pm

        YOu are right… He’s picked No Brainers… These are the obvious.. the crazies.. the nutz-o’s…

        Which raises the question just how crazy are liberals in this country… More importantly, how dangerous are liberals in this country.

        • euwei says

          Feb 9, 2017 at 8:58 pm

          The Left is THE ENEMY WITHIN

        • DFD says

          Feb 10, 2017 at 2:30 pm

          SaipanSam & euwei
          ===============.

          say: “…Which raises the question just how crazy are liberals in this country… More importantly, how dangerous are liberals in this country.” …….. “The Left is THE ENEMY WITHIN” ….

          You are both right. Let’s have a look at the terms ‘liberal’ and ‘left’. These are essentially operational organizations (nearly) completely taken over by the heirs to the School of Frankfurt. Again, the link: https://www.schillerinstitute.org/fid_91-96/921_frankfurt.html “Schiller Institute—THE NEW DARK AGE The Frankfurt School and “Political Correctness” …. The same holds true for the ‘Greens’, just learn about Daniel Cohn-Bendit. Have a look at Noam Chomsky, a modern day carbon copy of Herbert Marcuse, who was one of the key philosophers of the school.

          Essentially you are talking about anarchists and Maoists who learned to speak well, European/American taqyia if you so wish. The founders of every attack against Christianity, prime promoters of atheism {“…Christianity is the most dangerous ideology we are facing. It must be eliminated, and where not possible, undermined or sidelined…}, the school invented “political correctness” (…we must control the definitions of speech, and so what is permissible and what is not.} The destruction of the family (and thus public moral) is a foremost aim. Karl-Marx: “When a child is early sexualized, it cannot be brought up within the confines and the requirements of current society. Therefore, sexual liberties have to be introduced on a wide scale and from child on.” I.e., Multi gender.

          So, who are they nowadays? The Germans call them 68ers, that’s about the time when they realized their hoped for revolution would fail, and announced that they would “march through the institutions” (reflecting on Mao’s long march).

          Now there is a near generic term, internationally, that is Antifa. You have them in the US as well, at Berkely they were present, the usual slogans, and standard ‘uniforms’.

          And Americans become more and more aware of that. Fortunately, Key features: Always democratic, soft speech, initially that is, and their spokes people in general. Everybody not on their side is fascist, Nazi etc., and must be fought. Violently if possible, if not, law-fare and intimidation. You met them after Trumps election: “…he’s not my president … he must be removed from office …” What about democratic election results? OK – if you voted for those approved by them.

          Allying with everybody who is against you, Muslims, Black Lives Matter, etc.
          Another key feature is the generation of self hate, for your nation, your ancestors (Nazis, racists, colonialists, etc.) In Germany for instance they proclaim that Dresden was not enough and needs to be celebrated, you’ll get the same with something America. When there is the bombing commemoration day in Dresden, they appear waving American and Israeli flags – the same people who hold rallies at the American embassies, Israeli embassies, throw eggs and excrements against their walls and ‘protest’ against American or Israeli aggression, fascism etc. Yup, that’s Antifa!

          Financiers and allies: Soros & Co. (various intertwined NGOs), Arab Gulf States, Brotherhood etc. They regard Antifa as useful idiots, and are in turn regarded by them as useful idiots – fun, no?

          FACIT:
          =====.

          1) IMO Trump needs to start one purge after another. Or at least instigate these. Understand this: Since the School couldn’t find the required proletariat in the western countries, they import it.
          2) Trump needs to promote his European allies and supporters, AfD/Germany, Le Pen/France, Wilders/Netherlands, etc.

          If you care to look and to compare, you will find that we all face the same kinds of attacks, the same kinds of arguments and on, and on. Press? Unisono. Courts, the same. Strange no? Compare, it is all coordinated and very simultane, news articles, riots, and so on. Wake up!

    • Expat88 says

      Feb 9, 2017 at 8:26 pm

      The terrorists who came into the US from Saudi Arabia and committed the attacks on 911 were vetted by the American Embassy in Riyadh not by their own government. The Saudis do have good information about their own citizens unlike the seven countries who are failed States and on the list that Trump has submitted.

      • StacyGirl says

        Feb 9, 2017 at 8:43 pm

        Thank you. We allowed them to overstay their visas and they weren’t tracked. Probably thousands more right now like this. The countries chosen were due to a law already in place, for expedience. More countries could be added.

        • Brian Hoff says

          Feb 9, 2017 at 10:13 pm

          None of these seven nation carry out than terror attack in america. Kellyanne conway make up phony terror attack that the media didnot cover at all. They where not reported as they never happon at all. That law will be stike down as unconstitutional.

        • gravenimage says

          Feb 11, 2017 at 12:47 am

          “Brian Hoff”–really, “DefenderofIslam”–wrote:

          None of these seven nation (sic) carry out than (sic) terror attack in america (sic).
          ………………………..

          Muslim immigrants into the US have slaughtered or plotted to slaughter Americans, including in San Bernardino, in Boston, and in Times Square in New York City. Does “DefenderofIslam” have any problems with that? Not that he mentions.

          More:

          Kellyanne conway (sic) make up phony terror attack that the media didnot (sic) cover at all. They where not reported as they never happon (sic) at all.
          ………………………..

          It is true that KellyAnne Conway was incorrect about Muslims massacring Americans in Bowling Green, Kentucky–instead, it was Muslims in Bowling Green, Kentucky who were involved with murdering Americans in Iraq.

          I’m sure Brian Hoff is fine with this.

          “Establishment propaganda media crows that Kellyanne Conway ‘made up’ terror attack to justify Trump’s ban”

          https://www.jihadwatch.org/2017/02/establishment-propaganda-media-crows-that-kellyanne-conway-made-up-terror-attack-to-justify-trumps-ban

          More:

          That law will be stike (sic) down as unconstitutional.
          ………………………..

          Certainly, “Brian Hoff” wants to see more Muslim invaders like those in Bowling Green murdering Infidel Americans.

    • Gerald Mucci says

      Feb 9, 2017 at 8:36 pm

      Ahh, a Brit, one and the same as the nation that stupidly promotes immigration of hundreds of thousands of Muslims who believe in neither British culture, form of Government or law. Sharia for them, right-o? A Brit giving this sort of advice on US policy has zero credibility and is a danger to humanity.

      • StacyGirl says

        Feb 9, 2017 at 8:44 pm

        Bigly.

    • rubiconcrest says

      Feb 9, 2017 at 8:42 pm

      Actually the text of the order includes anyone who holds certain views. True it does not bar residents of many countries we might want to include. I thought it was a good start. It was calculated not to affect a great number of people and was similar to a 2015 law passed by Congress. Because opposition was expected they tried to piggyback this on the previous administration’s actions. The 9th circuit is the most overruled court in the nation so this is standard operating procedure for them.

      • Terry says

        Feb 11, 2017 at 3:59 pm

        The Ninth Circuit IS ALSO THE LARGEST IN LAND MASS COVERED (from The Grand Canyon in Arizona westward to the Marianne Islands, and north to Alaska.

        There have been bills in Congress to create a new Circuit, and split the 9th. The 9th is against it- they do not want their power diminished.

        The 9th covers some 20% of the US population and some 35-40% of the land mass-due to many western states having vast tracts of vacant land. (And the population growing in states like Arizona, Nevada etc that are in the 9th)

    • gravenimage says

      Feb 9, 2017 at 8:58 pm

      David Scoltock wrote:

      Come on Spencer, this is bull even for you.

      If Trump was serious about protecting America he’d of included saudi and pakistan.
      ………………………….

      “Even for you”–so opposing Jihad is “bull”?

      And you appear to forget that this may just be the start for this list:

      “Priebus says more countries could be added to the immigration ban”

      https://www.jihadwatch.org/2017/01/priebus-says-more-countries-could-be-added-to-the-immigration-ban

      Yes, Saudi Arabia and Pakistan and other terror-sponsoring Muslim nations need to be on the list, but hence categorizing having at least some of them on the list as “bull” is just bizarre. I consider it a good start–and one that dhimmis are still intent on obstructing, as here.

      More:

      I think the best thing right now is to do the job properly in Iraq. Don’t piss off what passes for their government by a token ban.
      ………………………….

      For one think we are not apt to get much support from the Iraqi “government”–secondly, if a nation is not going to work with us because we are trying to keep out terrorists from their country, they they were not really allies to begin with.

    • Terry says

      Feb 9, 2017 at 9:23 pm

      David lefty- THE SEVEN NATIONS WERE IN LAWS PASSED BY CONGRESS AND SIGNED BY OBAMA.

      Trump did not change the laws- to add or subtract the countries form those Obama, with his intelligence and other advisers put into the laws.

      Go worry about May.

    • Custos Custodum says

      Feb 9, 2017 at 10:44 pm

      It is up to the Executive under President Trump to decide to what extent and for how long to suspend travel to the the U.S. That is what the U.S. Constitution and relevant statutes provide.

      It is NOT the province of the courts to second-guess the President’s decisions. For this reason, it is well established that states do not even have “standing” to object on matters of foreign policy. The lawsuit by the two states – Washington and Minnesota – should have been thrown out on this basis alone.

      Of course, there are a lot of quiet communications before, during and after such lawsuits, none of them very creditable to the judges and lawyers involved.

      Jeff Sessions needs to fire and have disbarred the two career lawyers in his department who took a dive rather than defend the Executive’s policy. Their alleged “ethical” reasons for recusing themselves “out of an abundance of caution” are pure BS and in fact CONFIRM that they were in cahoots with one of the challenges (represented by their former law firm, Jones Day).

      Rather than offending their FORMER employer, the two prize specimens decided to BETRAY THEIR CURRENT employer, the U.S. government (i.e. the U.S. taxpayer). The betrayal was timed to hit the U.S. at a particularly vulnerable time, before Jeff Sessions was confirmed as the new Attorney General.

      An interregnum between two administrations is the classic situation where career attorneys in government “service” are called upon to show professionalism and loyalty to their client, the U.S. Government. They need to be fired and disbarred pour encourager les autres.

    • Rev g says

      Feb 9, 2017 at 11:28 pm

      He didn’t pick any nations, he used an already compiled list, compiled by the previous administration.

    • Catherine says

      Feb 10, 2017 at 12:47 am

      He chose these countries from a list compiled during the Obama administration, because people coming from these countries can be impossible to background check. Literally no records. Libya and Yemen don’t have functioning governments. Syria & Iraq are war-torn & unstable. Iran is an outright enemy. Etc. The idea was to suspend travel for 90+ days and look into tightening up visa screening. We don’ t want to get even close to what’s happening in Europe.
      I think he jumped the gun — probably should have waited at least until AG Sessions was confirmed. Obama enacted similar temporary travel bans & nobody seemed to notice, but…double standard.
      Meanwhile, the Ninth Circuit is the most overturned court in the US.

    • maghan says

      Feb 10, 2017 at 1:53 am

      That 7-nation list was Obama’s list detailing countries that are virtually without working governments. So what was Obama’s rationale for the list?

    • Angemon says

      Feb 10, 2017 at 7:24 am

      “If Trump was serious about protecting America he’d of included saudi and pakistan. ”

      Britons should have banned “migration” from Pakistan decades ago…

    • Christianblood says

      Feb 10, 2017 at 8:26 am

      The Presidential order to protect the nation from islamic terrorists could be stopped by some small leftist politically-correct judge! What a dishonor! That is the end result of the so-called Western liberal democracy and “freedom”. What a disgrace! What a weakness! In Russia, such a traitorous judge would be immediately arrested or hanged and the president’s order would be immediately put to work!

      • gravenimage says

        Feb 11, 2017 at 1:24 am

        Oh, good grief–this appeasement of Islam is not just rife in the West. As I have noted many times before, Patriarch Kirill not only invites Muslims into Russia, he actually castigated the West for being leery of having hordes of Muslims flooding into their nations:

        “West should learn from Russia to accept Muslim refugees – Patriarch Kirill”

        http://www.interfax-religion.com/?act=news&div=12354

        And here he is, lauding the “morality” of Islam, as opposed to the West:

        http://myocn.net/four-principles-patriarch-kirill-islam-western-immorality-interfaith-dialogue/

        The idea that the problem is freedom is absurd–unless, of course, you hate freedom more than enabling Islam.

    • Mark DeFord Eletion says

      Feb 10, 2017 at 9:17 am

      “If Trump was serious about protecting America he’d of included saudi and pakistan. You may remember that the 9/11 pilots where Saudi and bib laden was hiding in pakistan.”

      Trump’s ban was/is in part a warning to Saudi Arabia and Pakistan. The US has a long standing agreement to support the saudi royal family (The Petrodollar agreement – look it up). I haven’t checked into why the US has been supporting pakistan, but it may be related to the likelihood that they will nuke India if we don’t give them assistance.

      Yeah, both saudi arabia and pakistan are examples of countries that should not be allowed to exist.

      • Christianblood says

        Feb 10, 2017 at 7:00 pm

        Mark DeFord Eletion

        You are right. Saudi Arabia and Pakistan are two evil countries which should have been included in the ban but what Trump did was a good start and he couldn’t even win it. I think if he tried to ban Saudi Arabia and Pakistan the forces of darkness would have already impeached him!

      • Terry says

        Feb 11, 2017 at 4:04 pm

        The US–during the Cold War–supported Pakistan because then it was a bulwark against India, which was far left socialist and in the camp of the USSR.

        Pakistan, at that time, had a more or less decent government, and there was (if it was, not reported here) the religious fanatics killing all who disagreed with them.

    • Frank says

      Feb 10, 2017 at 12:04 pm

      It’s amazing that the media only focuses on the president and not public opinions. It is the constitution who will supercede these left wingers and the free riding garbage who have been breaking our backs.

    • Forrest Grump says

      Feb 10, 2017 at 4:05 pm

      The Constitution specifically states that the President has the power to exclude ANY immigrants for ANY reason. The reason he has chosen ONLY the seven countries (Syria, Somalia, Yemen, Libya, Iraq, Iran and Sudan were strictly because they had been hotbeds of ISIS and other anti-American terrorist activities. It had nothing to do with their being Muslim countries.

      The Circus Court of Appeals in San Francisco again proved that they are known for their far-left opinions, the Constitution be damned. If the Supreme Court fails to support the ban (temporary, BTW) and allow the Trump Administration to operate WITHIN THE LAW, there will be problems. The Circus Court of Appeals has effectively pissed on the Constitution and the liberal hack lawyers who occupy that bench should all be impeached.

      Even if the Constitution allowed for what has become an illegal invasion of Muslims, common sense tells me that we just can no longer support a religion that exists only because of taxpayer supported welfare, and a religion that has refused to denounce jihad. If Muslims are allowed to proliferate in the manner that they have, the U.S. will no longer be “one nation, indivisible,” and will become just another country divided by different cultures.

      Muslims have all but ruined France, Germany, the UK, Sweden and other european countries, and unless Trump is allowed to do his job, the same thing will happen here.

  2. avi15 says

    Feb 9, 2017 at 7:48 pm

    Islam is an authoritarian cult, not a religion. It needs to have its legal status as a religion and consequential constitution protection removed by legislation, otherwise these kinds of legal setbacks will just keep on happening.

    • David Scoltock says

      Feb 9, 2017 at 7:57 pm

      I was always taught to respect my foes as I hate them. There is something i do respect about the muslims, courage of their convictions.

      You have a great many of these people kicking off in syria, on both sides, for their beliefs.

      Same with the Jews, Israel takes “never again” seriously and I do love the Sikhs, best fighters in British army back in WW2 where the Sikhs, you mess with their faith and they fight for it and for their allies.

      christians, now these people I hold in total contempt. I see so many christian keyboard warriors on sites like jihad watch, making these statements about how islam isn’t a religion yada yada.

      When I see a christian foreign legion out in syria, fighting for the persecuted christians I make take these weak willed, keyboard warriors seriously when they make such statements.

      • StacyGirl says

        Feb 9, 2017 at 8:47 pm

        You’ve shown how little you know here. Stay in Britain and practice your curtsy, your return to serfdom is at hand.

        • gravenimage says

          Feb 9, 2017 at 9:05 pm

          David Scoltock has said how much he hates Americans and her values, as well.

        • Custos Custodum says

          Feb 9, 2017 at 10:51 pm

          David Scoltock has said how much he hates Americans and her values, as well.

          Indeed.

          Blustering anti-American Brits are such a bore. Guys, you lost your Empire and (mostly) control of the English language to Woodrow Wilson and FDR. Get over it (and yourselves).

        • gravenimage says

          Feb 11, 2017 at 2:07 pm

          Custos, there are many things I respect about Britain–I am half English, myself. But knee-jerk hatred of anything American and dhimmitude are not among them.

      • patriotliz says

        Feb 9, 2017 at 9:03 pm

        Yeah, you’re right but that would have been the Crusades, a defensive action against the Muslim invaders, even if a feeble attempt way back then.(But just as bad or even worse according to Obama). Brainwashing has made Christians feel GUILTY,….even the Pope won’t defend the Christians persecuted by Muslims. Also, Germany feels so much guilt about the Holocaust that they can’t even recognize IslamoNazism when it runs rampant in their country raping their women and many terror attacks. They simply excuse it because they are 3rd world FOREIGNERS who MUST be better than any German ‘once upon a time’ supremacist. Islam is a theo-political ideology that has excelled at conquering and decimating competing religions ever since the warmongering, jihadist, pedophile prophet invented it. Problem is, other religions eventually took a back seat to secular governments…Islam by it’s very nature CAN NOT and even when it has been done…it’s only temporary because their destiny is to carry out Mohammed/Allah’s directives for world conquest..at least by the “true believers” who CAN NOT be delegitimized by the heretical so-called moderate Muslims
        because…MOHAMMED/ALLAH makes them do it.
        We are just really stupid and think all “religions” are created equal which is our Achilles heel.
        Great video by Bill Warner about political warmongering religion of Islam:
        https://youtu.be/t_Qpy0mXg8Y

      • Rev g says

        Feb 9, 2017 at 11:30 pm

        Twas Christians responsible for the centuries of relative peace from islam, and for the previous victories against it.

        • gravenimage says

          Feb 11, 2017 at 2:08 pm

          True.

      • RichardL says

        Feb 10, 2017 at 12:15 am

        David, there are a couple of Christian outfits fighting in Syria. Sons of Liberty International is one.

      • maghan says

        Feb 10, 2017 at 1:58 am

        What about “committed leftists”? The most they seem to do is punch people, burn things, and riot. How come there are no leftist battalions racing over to Russia and China to restore totalitarian communism?

        • Terry says

          Feb 11, 2017 at 4:06 pm

          Probably the people,would kill them-if the government did not. (Leftist battalions going to Russia and China)

      • Christianblood says

        Feb 10, 2017 at 8:46 am

        David Scoltock posted

        (..I was always taught to respect my foes as I hate them. There is something i do respect about the muslims, courage of their convictions.You have a great many of these people kicking off in syria, on both sides, for their beliefs.Same with the Jews, Israel takes “never again” seriously and I do love the Sikhs, best fighters in British army back in WW2 where the Sikhs, you mess with their faith and they fight for it and for their allies.christians, now these people I hold in total contempt. I see so many christian keyboard warriors on sites like jihad watch, making these statements about how islam isn’t a religion yada yada…)

        You are absolutely right David! Not only the so-called Western Christians are weak, stupid and politically-correct they are actually siding with islamists and their governments are aiding and abetting islamic jihadists who are murdering Christians. You have to understand David, that the dominant ideology in the West is an anti-Christian, evil, secular ideology known as “Liberal Democracy” and it is a new secular region which is just as anti-Christ as the islamic death cult is and the few so-called “Christians” that are remaining in the West are themselves compromised and are useless in every way. For example, just look at what is happening to Donald Trump who is trying to protect America from islamic terrorism and how his orders cannot work because of some small politically-correct judges who are blocking it.
        This is INSANE! Also understand that this kind of nonsense cannot exist among Orthodox Christians in the East, we die for our faith and we will defend it to the death both from islamic fascists and from Western postmodernist, anti-Christ liberals who are collaborating with islamists. They are the same to us. They are the enemies! Watch please:

        • gravenimage says

          Feb 11, 2017 at 2:43 pm

          Christianblood wrote:

          This is INSANE! Also understand that this kind of nonsense cannot exist among Orthodox Christians in the East, we die for our faith and we will defend it to the death both from islamic fascists and from Western postmodernist, anti-Christ liberals who are collaborating with islamists. They are the same to us. They are the enemies!
          ……………………………….

          They are not the same to Patriarch Kirill, who condemns “Western immorality” while lauding the horrific “values” of Islam:

          1. The Moscow Patriarchate looks forward to continued dialogue and strengthened relations with Muslim leaders, especially given the rapid decline of morality in the West.

          “It would be good if scholars could join the working group [of Russian Orthodox and Turkish Muslims], since it is very important to reflect together on what is going on with human civilization,” His Holiness said. “It is perfectly obvious that the Western civilization, the modern Western culture, has lost its ties with religion and that the Western world cannot be called Christian any more. Religious values are no longer present in social sphere. Such laws are being adopted that contradict God’s commandments and traditional morality.”

          “Four Principles from Patriarch Kirill on Islam, Western Immorality, and Interfaith Dialogue”

          http://myocn.net/four-principles-patriarch-kirill-islam-western-immorality-interfaith-dialogue/

          It is also difficult to know what he means by “Western immorality”, since levels of divorce and abortion are lower in the West than in Russia, and percentages of Christians are higher there.

          But in the West gay people are allowed to live unmolested, and domestic violence is illegal here–whereas in Russia wife beating was just decriminalized. Muslims must *love* this.

          No wonder he is cozying up to Muslim thugs.

          He does go on to condemn Christian persecution in Dar-al-Islam–a good thing. He criticizes violence in Islam–but then says that this is not really Islamic–exactly the kind of willful ignorance one finds in so many in the West.

          As I have noted before, the fact is that one finds this sort of appeasement of Islam in both the East and the West–and it is suicidal wherever one finds it.

    • Mark Swan says

      Feb 10, 2017 at 2:15 am

      There are such “social values” today in Europe, America, and Australia only because during those thousand years the Christians of Europe possessed the warlike power to do what the Christians of Asia and Africa had failed to do – that is, to beat back the Moslem invader.

      – Theodore “Teddy” Roosevelt
      26th President of the United States

  3. Sam says

    Feb 9, 2017 at 7:59 pm

    We all know that it will get worse here in America like anywhere else before it gets better. This is one of the many setbacks Trump will get in fight against Islam thanks to our brainwashed, clueless, violent liberals.

    One way or the other, thanks to Trump we are getting into the fight against Islam finally. This is WAR. There is no escape now.

  4. gravenimage says

    Feb 9, 2017 at 8:47 pm

    Hard-Left appeals court rules against national security, Trump’s immigration ban
    ……………………..

    I wish I could say this surprises me, but this Appeals Court is notorious.

    • Custos Custodum says

      Feb 9, 2017 at 10:52 pm

      AKA the Ninth Circus Court of Appeals.

      • gravenimage says

        Feb 11, 2017 at 3:10 pm

        Yes–they’re here in San Francisco.

  5. myworld2 says

    Feb 9, 2017 at 8:52 pm

    The Democrats just lost the next political races for all time to come …… Let’s hope the next 900,000 to enter this country settle in California and Oregon – then we can just bomb ALL the enemies of our Country out of existence …………yes, that IS the way I feel……………

    • gravenimage says

      Feb 9, 2017 at 9:09 pm

      There are some patriotic Americans in these states, including myself. The idea that you want to slaughter Americans is quite disturbing. Let’s hope that was just the frustration talking.

    • StacyGirl says

      Feb 9, 2017 at 9:24 pm

      These jihadists cannot stop being who they are so just a matter of time until more Americans are slaughtered at home. God help us all and open the eyes of the blind.

    • Terry says

      Feb 9, 2017 at 9:29 pm

      I heard this evening that some 80% of the refugees are concentrated in 20 cities/metropolitan areas.

      Some (I do not remember all-I was driving):

      Seattle
      Boston
      L. A. Cal
      San Francisco , Cal
      Atlanta
      New York City
      Chicago

      Note all 7 are liberal and (not sure about Atlanta) have Dem mayors.

      I would bet all went for Clinton, and all have no requirement for picture ID to vote.

      • Al Fabeech says

        Feb 10, 2017 at 1:45 am

        Cleveland Columbus Toledo Detroit Erie Buffalo.

    • no_one says

      Feb 9, 2017 at 10:36 pm

      I would say get them to NY, IL, may be Hawaii. They are going to like the weather there.

      • gravenimage says

        Feb 11, 2017 at 3:20 pm

        Those advocating bringing Muslims in to liberal areas so that they can wreck havoc there *do* realize, don’t they, that these Mohammedans can later move wherever they want to–including areas with conservative victims, don’t they?

    • Custos Custodum says

      Feb 9, 2017 at 10:59 pm

      Let’s be nice to the refugees – give them a chance to prove themselves as oil workers on Alaska’s North Slope.

      If they can tough it out in Alaska for 5 years, pay their taxes, stay out of trouble, and learn decent English, we give them a chance to apply for a green card for themselves only. Strictly no family visas – find a spouse locally, just like many 19th century coolies did. Also, absolutely no visits back to their home countries which we are told are too dangerous.

      • gravenimage says

        Feb 11, 2017 at 3:48 pm

        Why would you want local women to suffer at the hands of these Mohammedan thugs? I suppose this is meant sarcastically, Custos.

    • Terry says

      Feb 11, 2017 at 4:12 pm

      Recently saw-in an article about the anal pore who is leading the “movement’ to secede from the US.

      20 or so counties in Cal gave Trump a majority of the votes, and 5 or so others were close.

      Clinton won big in the liberal strongholds of the LA and SF areas ( LA, at least, with many illegals; SF is a” sanctuary city”- where, if I am not mistaken, an illegal, who had been in prison 1 or more times, killed a young woman. Must have made the family of the victim proud to know that their city provides sanctuary for illegals.

      • gravenimage says

        Feb 11, 2017 at 9:15 pm

        This last has actually been a big scandal here–but now it seems that those who want to give “sanctuary” to dangerous violent invaders are doubling down.

  6. Terry says

    Feb 9, 2017 at 9:30 pm

    Terry says
    February 9, 2017 at 9:29 pm

    I heard this evening that some 80% of the refugees are concentrated in 20 cities/metropolitan areas.

    Some (I do not remember all-I was driving):

    Seattle
    Boston
    L. A. Cal
    San Francisco , Cal
    Atlanta
    New York City
    Chicago

    Note all 7 are liberal and (not sure about Atlanta) have Dem mayors.

    I would bet all went for Clinton, and all have no requirement for picture ID to vote.

    Reply

    • gravenimage says

      Feb 11, 2017 at 3:50 pm

      You are right–we don’t have to show ID to vote here.

  7. Terry says

    Feb 9, 2017 at 9:30 pm

    Maybe there will be some good jihadist terrorists- and get these judges and their families.

    • gravenimage says

      Feb 11, 2017 at 3:53 pm

      Applauding Jihadists slaughtering *anyone* in the West is perverse. Don’t you realize that killing judges–even dhimmi tools–would just embolden Islam?

  8. vlparker says

    Feb 10, 2017 at 12:02 am

    Too bad the Republican Congress is made up of a bunch of wimps. They could and should disband the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals.

    • Champ says

      Feb 10, 2017 at 2:30 am

      Indeed!

    • Terry says

      Feb 11, 2017 at 4:17 pm

      I posted-FEB 11,2017–

      there was a bill to break the 9th circuit into 2- creating a new one.

      IT COULD BE (SHOULD BE) REINTRODUCED.

  9. Guest says

    Feb 10, 2017 at 12:10 am

    Can someone explain to me: has the US so far achieved at least something with Trump’s order meanwhile, eg at least not allowing any new visas to people from those 7 countries?

    • gravenimage says

      Feb 11, 2017 at 9:21 pm

      Not at this point, Guest–right now Muslims are flooding in from those dangerous countries again:

      “77% of refugees allowed into U.S. since court blocked Trump ban come from the 7 countries on Trump’s list”

      https://www.jihadwatch.org/2017/02/77-of-refugees-allowed-into-u-s-since-court-blocked-trump-ban-come-from-the-7-countries-on-trumps-list/comment-page-1#comment-1615423

  10. Kessler says

    Feb 10, 2017 at 12:19 am

    I don’t get it.
    When Obama passed the ban on immigration from Iraq, why was there no uproar? They argue Trump’s ban is unconstitutional because there has been no attacks from people from these countries – there were no attacks from Iraqies when Obama passed the ban.
    Logic?!?

    • maghan says

      Feb 10, 2017 at 2:01 am

      There were attacks from Somalis.

    • Terry says

      Feb 11, 2017 at 4:18 pm

      Obama is a lefty Muslims; lefties love lefties. ALL HATE THE US AND ITS STANDARDS

      • gravenimage says

        Feb 11, 2017 at 9:25 pm

        Spot on, Terry.

  11. Troybeam says

    Feb 10, 2017 at 12:47 am

    Obama set the standard on this with zero backlash, this 9th court of appeals is just a liberal we will fight Trump and delay the real outcome by the Supreme Court, in the mean time thousands will invade our nation putting America and Americans at risk, I wonder what the liberal judges of the 9th would do if the illegals and refugees thanked them for their decision by camping out on their lawns and neighborhoods?

    Such a disgrace to oppose the President plus its showing the world we are a divided nation, weak and vulnerable open to attack from the inside as well as outside, UNITED WE STAND…DIVIDED WE FAIL.

  12. More Ham Ed says

    Feb 10, 2017 at 1:19 am

    “The Ninth Circuit is by far the most overturned and overburdened court in the country, with a 77 percent reversal rate”

    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/02/a-circuit-split/435567

    • gravenimage says

      Feb 11, 2017 at 9:32 pm

      Very true, More Ham Ed. Let’s hope the same is true here.

  13. Champ says

    Feb 10, 2017 at 2:11 am

    Is President Trump’s travel ban constitutional? Yes!

    Trump Reads Immigration Statute In Front Of Sheriffs:

    • Champ says

      Feb 10, 2017 at 2:20 am

      And this from our brilliant Vice-President Mike Pence featured on Meet The Press …

      Mike Pence: Travel Ban On Solid Constitutional Ground:

    • gravenimage says

      Feb 11, 2017 at 3:56 pm

      Spot on, Champ.

  14. William says

    Feb 10, 2017 at 4:07 am

    Just stop ALL immigration, seems to me the only way to not be accused of being ‘selectively racist’ towards any particular group.
    There are countries that have little or no immigration and they are fine, look at Japan.
    The west just can’t keep accepting people from countries that are opposite to the belief systems of the host country, it will just bring trouble later on.
    Let the USA look out for their own citizens… STOP IMMIGRATION COMPLETELY.

    • Know Thy Enemy says

      Feb 10, 2017 at 4:59 am

      If President Trump is accused of being ‘selectively racist’ or ‘bigot’ towards non-resident aliens not present in the US, so what? The Constitution protects people from religious or racial discrimination but it is important to remember that the US Constitution and its protections do not apply to foreigners not present in the US.

      The POTUS can discriminate all he wants on whatever ground and make whatever decision regarding the aliens. The Constitution does not even come into the picture because, again, its protections simply do not apply to aliens not present in the US!

      The 9th Circuit Court of Appeals has made a decision that simply will not hold in the Supreme Court.

      • Rev g says

        Feb 10, 2017 at 10:35 am

        Exactly. Why do you think the prisoners at guantanamo are being held there instead of in the USA?

        • Know Thy Enemy says

          Feb 10, 2017 at 2:11 pm

          After reading more articles online, it is my impression that the arguments regarding the current case are more complicated than simply the fact that the US Constitution does not apply to foreigners.

          One of the arguments is that US based entities were harmed by the ban. Washington state claimed that its university scholars and students were harmed by the [Executive Order], and that the schools’ academic mission was compromised. Trump’s team on the other hand did not fully explain how it was harmed by the courts’ stay on the travel ban.

          And this is only one issue. There are others too but IMO the biggest obstacle that Trump faces is the fact that his opponents, including judges and lawyers, strongly lean Left and are very good at doing their jobs.

          Trump admin clearly needs very good lawyers who are willing to give the case the best they can.

    • gravenimage says

      Feb 11, 2017 at 9:35 pm

      Most legal immigrants to the US become valued citizens. The idea that we should have to change our values in order to deal with ravening Muslims is *very* questionable.

  15. Phil Copson says

    Feb 10, 2017 at 4:40 am

    Quote: “A federal appeals court ruled unanimously that the U.S. will remain open to refugees and visa holders from seven Muslim…….”

    How do you manage to be a “refugee” from a country that isn’t either at war or carrying out genocide….?

  16. Paul Sutliff says

    Feb 10, 2017 at 6:36 am

    9th Circuit ignores those who were arrested or killed for terrorist actions that were prevented. http://paulsutliff.blogspot.com/2017/02/9th-circuit-uses-semantics-to-deceive.html

    • gravenimage says

      Feb 11, 2017 at 9:43 pm

      Also true, Paul. Great article, and I have bookmarked your excellent site. Thanks.

  17. Richard Paulsen says

    Feb 10, 2017 at 7:07 am

    Love media´s hate.

  18. Steve Klein says

    Feb 10, 2017 at 7:14 am

    Hat-tip to President Trump’s nominee for U.S. Supreme Court who disagrees with the president’s executive order.

    One day ago, Fox News reported: ‘President Donald Trump’s Supreme Court nominee (Neil Gorsuch) said Wednesday that comments Trump made about the federal appeals court deliberating his travel ban were “disheartening and demoralizing,” Fox News has learned….’

    • Terry says

      Feb 11, 2017 at 4:21 pm

      What I heard of Gorsuch was that he found the CRITICISM OF THE JUDGES —–, not the EO.

  19. Bezelel says

    Feb 10, 2017 at 7:59 am

    Proverbs 16:18 Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall.
    The leftist’s are gloating now but the law as it was written and as it has been followed buy previous presidents has already been established. They went too far and showed themselves for what they are. Either we follow the law that their oaths bound them to or we have anarchy. The judges are taking on congress and the president.

  20. common sense says

    Feb 10, 2017 at 10:07 am

    The courts are there to ‘check’ that laws are being followed and are constitutionally sound not to assess security concerns. This obviously is a legit order and a good starting point for protecting ourselves.
    When the supreme court decides to screw us dont be surprised. I hope I’m wrong.

    This order will be re written and I also think that our security forces just need to start arresting people and detaining them under direct order of the potus. That’ll get things moving.
    There are more options before that has to happen as well.
    The thug judges putting us at risk should be arressted for obstruction and sedition which I dont think is on the books anymore. Good time to bring it back.

  21. Nancy Albert says

    Feb 10, 2017 at 2:01 pm

    If a couple of states have standing to overturn Trump’s immigrant ban, then conversely, other states have standing to refuse to accept immigrants for whatever reason they please. After all, the ruling was based on how some people are harmed.

  22. UNCLE VLADDI says

    Feb 10, 2017 at 9:43 pm

    From here:

    https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1182

    U.S. Code § 1182 – Inadmissible aliens (which is Section 212(f) of the Immigration and Naturalization Act):

    (f) Suspension of entry or imposition of restrictions by President

    Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate.

    Does islam and its holy-mobster “muslim” gang members come under this definition of being “detrimental to the interests of the United States”? Let’s have a very quick look!

    Right in the Qur’an is: the permission to murder Jews and Christians (Surah 9:29), to terrorize all non-Muslims (8:12), to rape young girls (65:4), to enslave people for sex (4:3), to lie about one’s true goals (3:54), and the command to make war on all the infidels (9:123) and subjugate the entire world to Allah (9:33).

    ….

    Judges only serve under good behavior:

    Article III (Article 3 – Judicial)
    Section 1
    The judicial Power of the United States, shall be vested in one supreme Court, and in such inferior Courts as the Congress may from time to time ordain and establish. The Judges, both of the supreme and inferior Courts, shall hold their Offices during good Behaviour,

    Further, there is no constitutional requirement that district courts exist at all.

    Judges on these Article IV territorial courts do not enjoy the protections of Article Three of the Constitution, and serve terms of ten years rather than for life.

    Federal courts may not decide every case that happens to come before them. In order for a district court to entertain a lawsuit, Congress must first grant the court subject matter jurisdiction over the type of dispute in question.

    Generally, a final ruling by a district court in either a civil or a criminal case can be appealed to the United States court of appeals in the federal judicial circuit in which the district court is located, except that some district court rulings involving patents and certain other specialized matters must be appealed instead to the United States Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit, and in a very few cases the appeal may be taken directly to the United States Supreme Court.

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