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Nathan Lean of Georgetown University calls for “public uprising” to overthrow Trump

Feb 5, 2017 4:27 pm By Robert Spencer

Georgetown’s Nathan Lean is a supreme example of how academia has become a radioactive desert of hard-Left indoctrination and opposition to the freedom of speech. He is supposedly an expert on “Islamophobia,” which really means that he is an expert on character assassination of those whom he deems “Islamophobes.”

A longtime foe of the freedom of speech, Lean has dedicated his life to defaming and lying about anyone and everyone who dares to utter a critical word about the religious ideology that guides Islamic jihadists and incites them to commit mass murder. His targets have included Richard Dawkins, Sam Harris, Maajid Nawaz and me, and in every case, Lean plays fast and loose with the facts, cheerfully purveying falsehoods even when he has been shown that they are false (the images are gone from that old post, but it still conveys the substance), so desperate is he to clear away all obstacles to the advance of jihad terror. Not content to defame his targets over their opposition to jihad terror, he stalks them elsewhere: I was scheduled to speak several years ago at an education conference that had nothing to do with Islam, but Lean mounted a defamation campaign that intimidated a cowardly Catholic bishop, Jaime Soto, to cancel the event (it was held at another location) because of my work on Islam.

Lean is not content to spread lies about those whom he hates; he is also the lowest kind of thug, and has repeatedly tweeted out links to what he thinks is my home address and places that I frequent (he was wrong in both cases, but that’s beside the point), in an obvious attempt either to frighten me into silence or to signal to his jihadi friends and allies where I can be found and killed. He is an expert, practiced hater — a look at his Twitter feed shows that he regularly revels in crude and vicious abuse of those who dare to say the slightest negative word about the Religion of Peace. As he claims to be opposing “haters,” he is easily one of the most hateful individuals I have ever encountered in my entire life.

And now he has shown his true colors. This is sedition. Will Georgetown University continue to employ someone with such contempt for the Constitution and the rule of law? Of course they will, because the Saudis remunerate them handsomely.

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  1. quota raven says

    Feb 5, 2017 at 4:37 pm

    Georgetown is worse that I realized. Thank you for introducing JW readers to the loathsome and despicable Nathan Lean, a man who defiles the Constitution.

    Cheers!

    quota raven

    • jihad3tracker says

      Feb 5, 2017 at 5:38 pm

      HERE IS A PATH TO THE FACEBOOK PAGE OF GEORGETOWN’S PRESIDENT:

      https://www.facebook.com/pages/Georgetown-President-John-J-DeGioia/144044268985530

      You should also be able to easily get a twitter address. For Jihad Watch readers who care to take the time, please send a link to Robert’s post about Nathan Lean, along with your own thoughts on this truly vile and sick person.

      • quota raven says

        Feb 5, 2017 at 7:12 pm

        to Jihad3tracker, who suggests, sensibly and pertinently, “please send a link to Robert’s post about Nathan Lean, along with your own thoughts”

        Sounds like a plan, Jihad3, and a good one. I accessed their Facebook page via the link you provided; very interesting. BUT I am fearful to make a comment or send a link to Robert’s article for this reason: I am afraid my real name would appear with my contribution and, frankly, these people scare me. I just don’t want my real name out there, and I am not technically clever enough w/facebook (which I only follow in a couple of cases) to change how my “user name” appears. Being somewhat paranoid, I practically never contribute to facebook at all, certainly not on my own page!. I’m leery of “being out there” in person.

        I know, this makes me a wimp and a useless person in this regard, and I regret it, but if others can do what you suggest (presumably changing their real name to a “user name”) I heartily urge them to do so. I can imagine nothing better than a flood of such entries on their facebook page.

        Cheers!
        Or perhaps I should say “cluck, cluck, cluck” – sorry.

        quota raven

        • ECAW says

          Feb 6, 2017 at 4:49 am

          Quota – Naturally, I would be only too happy to sacrifice myself for a generation who can’t be arsed but my wife insists black doesn’t suit her.

          I have set up several fake Facebook sites, the first being one for the EDL Guardian Readers Division, but they never lasted long. Now they insist on identification so I no longer bother and console myself with the thought that discretion is the better part of valour or something like that.

          If you can’t disappear like Molly Norris or guard yourself like Robert Spencer and don’t fancy tattooing “Slit here” around your throat then anonymity it is.

          Cluck cluck.

      • quota raven says

        Feb 5, 2017 at 7:17 pm

        Jihad3 – Eeek. Right after I posted mine above in response to yours, I read a comment from Ashley, who sez, “Lean is not content to spread lies about those whom he hates; he is also the lowest kind of thug, and has repeatedly tweeted out links to what he thinks is my home address and places that I frequent (he was wrong in both cases, but that’s beside the point), in an obvious attempt either to frighten me into silence or to signal to his jihadi friends and allies where I can be found and killed.”

        That’s what I’m talking about! Cheers – qr

        • Ashley says

          Feb 5, 2017 at 7:32 pm

          Actually, qr, I was quoting Robert.

          But yeah…something has to be done about this.

          Cheers to you!

        • quota raven says

          Feb 5, 2017 at 7:35 pm

          Ashley – Thank you for clarifying. My mistake. Cheers! qr

    • Saleem Smith says

      Feb 5, 2017 at 5:41 pm

      Nathan Lean seems to be a big fan of Islam. There is no Islamic cause that he does not eagerly support. What kind of money is Georgetown University paying this thuggish chump to promote Islam and does he support Islam’s death penalty for apostasy? We ex-Muslims know that Islam is a terribly dangerous fraud.

      • Larry says

        Feb 5, 2017 at 11:35 pm

        Georgetown might be signing the checks, but the money is coming from Saudi Arabia.

        Many years ago I seriously considered trying for a political science post grad degree at Georgetown, because at the time it was one of the very, very best in the world.

        These days it is a failed institution living on past glories, like so many other of the top name universities in the USA.

        • maghan says

          Feb 6, 2017 at 3:11 am

          Corrupted by Arab money. What will Thomas Aquinas say? After all, he denounced Muhammad as a sex maniac and plunderer.

        • Terry says

          Feb 11, 2017 at 6:07 pm

          But the current pope seems to think Muslims are OK.

          Hell, he compared them to Jesus.

        • underbed cat says

          Feb 6, 2017 at 12:58 pm

          I suspect all major universities in the”big league”receive funds from Arab counties…it started many years ago,( was reported in the Chicago Trib.)( to spread the influence and allow mosques to work under the radar) was labeled as aid to college students or grants.
          It influences the information, to dominate the”correct understanding” of the religion of peace…and silence ones who know what the real goals are for world domination and sharia that could stop the influence. So we find ourselves with a “who knew” clueless higher education. Or as Robert sometimes jokingly comments, the message is “nothing to see here carry on”.

        • RickMT says

          Feb 7, 2017 at 8:08 pm

          University checks coming from Saudi Arabia? A new Federal law is in need to stop all foreign money from influencing America’s schools of higher learning down through high schools and lower. This is what the people who gave us 9/11 do: they buy their way through our schools and politicians.

      • Carolyne says

        Feb 6, 2017 at 10:03 am

        I think the better question would be “Where is Georgetown getting this money?” As Larry says above, Georgetown gets money from Saudi Arabia. They financed the “Center for Islamic Studies” building and I believe have set up a trust to support it. Saudi Arabia, IMO, now owns Georgetown University.

        Mamas, don’t let your children go to Georgetown University.

        • jihad3tracker says

          Feb 6, 2017 at 11:17 am

          HELLO CAROLYNE — Yes, the Saudi money ($20 million or thereabout) was given decades ago by Prince Alwaleed bin Talal. You can find the details on Georgetown’s website.

          For those of us who have a few spare minutes during this week, and the motivation to remind professors there of how sadly corrupted the mission of this Jesuit institution has become — capitulating to Islam’s violent mission with not one peep from President DeGioia — here some pushback:

          Go to Georgetown’s website, open the areas-of-study faculty directory, and select several professors whose scholarship specialty parallels YOUR OWN education or investigations (over the years as you matured) in non-didactic settings.

          Then write them an email containing a short bio, including how you came to be aware of reality regarding Islam, thus escaping the myopia of Western privilege guilt cluelessness. And include some remarks which might gently prompt a search of their own consciences.

          One major point to emphasize is certainly this: Muslim jihad intending conquest of the United States will never cease. If those academics — who SHOULD BE at the forefront of resistance to intellectual freedom’s assassins — never speak up in the public sphere, they are thereby HELPING ISLAM TO PREVAIL.

        • Terry says

          Feb 11, 2017 at 6:18 pm

          The “universities” and their “professors” who advocate free thought, speaking, etc ( AS LONG AS IT CORRESPONDS TO THEIR THINKING AND THOUGHTS) ONLY KNOW HOW TO WANT TO ban Israeli speakers; pro Israeli speakers; and stop Israeli students from coming here; and BAN ISRAELI PROFESSORS FORM PROFESSIONAL GROUPS.

          BUT, THEY DON’T STOP USING THEIR COMPUTERS OR CELL PHONES OR SMART PHONES, ALL OF WHICH ( THE TECHNOLOGY) TO A GREAT EXTENT COMES FROM ISRAEL.

          The universities care about the money- and how much they can screw everyone out of.

    • A Harris USA says

      Feb 6, 2017 at 3:10 pm

      raven, this is just one of many idiots who espouse the murder, and or violent overthrow of our government. If you watch and listen to the savages who rant and rave on a daily bases, are everywhere.. I think the only thing that will stop the threats to our POTSUS, is to put the investigative arm of the Secret Service, in to full swing.. making public arrests, high fines, and jail time for these pigs.. I am sure President Trump is aware of these evil beings.. It is time for the Secret Service to start investigating these devils.. Once the few examples are made of these pigs, high fines, jail, and so forth, then crap will stop.. Only then.

      • quota raven says

        Feb 6, 2017 at 4:13 pm

        A Harris – Yes, there are those everywhere who eagerly seek to destroy the West, and many are in organized, militant groups. Jihadis are not the only ones. Has the Aryan Supremecy (or something like that) come to your attention? White supremacy? Irm fir that matter, Black Lives Matter. They can all get pretty creepy verging on scary as shit.

        Cheers!

        quota raven

      • Melanie says

        Mar 11, 2017 at 4:27 pm

        You all are a bunch of idiots and islamophobes! It is clear that you all are stupid and illiterate! I am a fan of the great work Nathan does and I know him in person. Such a dedicated and hard working young man! It is clear to me that all these comments stem from one thing: pure jealousy! He has published books, received awards and is working on other books right now. I attended his lectures and I was impressed!

        You all go to hell!

        Melanie Kennedy

        • Terry says

          Mar 12, 2017 at 9:06 pm

          If the Us (heaven forbid) becomes islamic, we all will be in hell.’

          If you like Islam so much, GET YOUR ASS A THE HELL OUT OF MY COUNTRY.

          AND TAKE NATHAN LEAN AND 1 MILLION OR MORE FELLOW ISLAMISTS WITH YOU.

          Pakistan should be nice now, or Iraq, Iran or Syria.

        • Terry says

          Mar 12, 2017 at 9:10 pm

          The line- Us SHOULD BE US FOR UNITED STATES.

    • pandainc says

      Feb 7, 2017 at 12:31 am

      I can only hope that, given the new sheriff in town, a list of these egghead seditionists is being kept so we can round them up for trial. Soros will be happy to foot the bill.

      • Terry says

        Mar 12, 2017 at 9:08 pm

        Soros ( and his son) should be at the head of the list.

        And, i think Singapore would like to have a go at him, also.

  2. tedh754 says

    Feb 5, 2017 at 4:38 pm

    Typical useful idiot. Traitors need to learn, that once the treason has passed, the traitor is no longer necessary.

    • dumbledoresarmy says

      Feb 5, 2017 at 4:59 pm

      Possibly more than a Useful IDiot/ dhimmi.

      What if he is in fact a closet convert to Islam, a Nuaym bin Masud? I suspect there may be not a few of *those* around, at the moment, both in the first world and the third world, in ‘the West’ and beyond the West, causing mayhem.

    • Westman says

      Feb 6, 2017 at 12:03 am

      Advocating the overthrow of the US is supposed to be a crime. Lean must be a lawyer, they rarely believe the law applies to them.

      • old white guy says

        Feb 6, 2017 at 7:57 am

        I am in favor of shutting down everything that smacks of left wing communism and islam. That includes lawyers who support them.

        • quota raven says

          Feb 6, 2017 at 8:09 am

          To Old White Guy, who sez, “I am in favor of shutting down everything that smacks of left wing communism and islam. That includes lawyers who support them.”

          This has such an appeal, but it sounds more like a pipe dream than a workable plan. What we need to do now is form a group[ of a few like-minded, smart people and brainstorm til we come up with a way to implement this stage of draining the swamp..

          Cheers!

          quota raven

  3. marc says

    Feb 5, 2017 at 4:40 pm

    the facists show themselves clearly when democracy isn’t working for them anymore.

    • LB says

      Feb 6, 2017 at 6:05 am

      You aren’t kidding. The only difference between rabid leftists like this guy and actual Nazis in Hitler’s time is their name and the name of the person they are shilling for. The methods and goals are EXACTLY THE SAME — silencing the opposition and freedom of speech. It’s actually incredible how similar those two groups are. The irony of today’s Left is almost poetic.

      • El Cid says

        Feb 6, 2017 at 11:35 am

        The level of denial informs me how it was possible for the Nazis to succeed in their objectives in such a short time. People never change. They are sheep.

        • Terry says

          Feb 15, 2017 at 7:48 pm

          JFK–NOT one of my favorite anything, wrote a book ” WHILE ENGLAND SLEPT”. He said, that he hopes that in the future (he gave a time frame, I forgot what it was) NOBODY WRITES A BOOK ” WHILE AMERICA SLEPT’.

          Unfortunately, America has been asleep for years.

          Hopefully, now awake

  4. IQ al Rassooli says

    Feb 5, 2017 at 4:41 pm

    The worst CRIMINALS besides corrupt politicians have been and continue to be so called ‘professors’ in the universities and academia who are treasonous leftists INDOCTRINATING several generations of American youth to be undisciplined, unpatriotic, un informed CLONES of multiculturalist globalist thought

    Draining the Swamp will require a complete overhaul of Academia by refusing to fund universities that harbour and encourage violence and thuggery against anyone who does not toe the line of leftists

    This will require the participation of ALL parents and all those millionaires who support these obviously dysfunctional anti freedom of expression institutions

    DJ Trump alone cannot succeed without the ACTIVE participation of tens if not hundreds of millions of concerned parents

    Any ‘professor’ who incites to overthrow the democratic process should be put on trial and if found guilty should be summarily DISMISSED without compensation for acts of treason

    IQ al Rassooli
    Kafir & Proud!
    MGA & DTS!

    • dumbledoresarmy says

      Feb 5, 2017 at 5:01 pm

      Donations – aka BRIBES – from Muslim-majority countries, to academic institutions in the west (and not only in the West! I’ll bet india and some African countries are experiencing similar corrupting activity) needs to be STOPPED.

      During the Cold War, would America have allowed the Soviet Unon to pour large sums of money into “Russian Studies” centres at American Universities?

  5. Walter Sieruk says

    Feb 5, 2017 at 4:41 pm

    The only thing that those violent vandals who are engaging in all that awful rioting are actually accomplishing is exposing to the nation and the world that they are people of a very low intelligence level who are so unintelligent that they don’t understand the value of reason and logic as a way to handle a topic that has much meaning to them. Intelligent and rational people will keep within the law and use logic and reason and set up a lobby to express their views.

  6. Walter Sieruk says

    Feb 5, 2017 at 4:42 pm

    All those violent vandals who hate President Trump with a passion by expressing how they feel about Donald Trump being the President of the United States by engaging is awful carnage and mayhem are actually exposing their own low intelligence level and lack of ability to practice sound reasoning and logic.. For intelligent people don’t have “adult temper tantrums” and engage in name calling , smash and break things when something or somebody is around or in power that they happen to dislike. People of good intelligence and sound mind understand the use of reason and logic and set up peaceful lobby groups. They keep peacefully within the law. In contrast those rioters are not only showing the world that they don’t understand the value of reason and logic but by their very behavior they showing they are senseless, mindless hooligans by the awful violent way they handle things. Shame on them.

  7. Kay says

    Feb 5, 2017 at 4:52 pm

    Why is sedition being tolerated?

    • Allan says

      Feb 5, 2017 at 5:23 pm

      Too few men, too many sports nuts, and too many cops organized into militias for the Democrats. (The Chicago Police are a good example of such a militia.)

      Now please go read Article VII of the Constitution. Its clause purports to state the law of “Ratification” and “Establishment” prior to both ratification and establishment without giving any indication why a sane reader would believe what’s written there. So it’s evident that the text encourages a careless reader to presuppose what is at issue.

      Now, almost 230 years have passed since the Constitution was adopted, but there’s still no cogent argument from the many, many apologists about how A7 acquired the legality popularly ascribed to it. Of course, if its substance was ever law, it must have been established separately from the C, and it could have been excluded without unfairly impeding the rush to adopt the C for the portion of the British empire detached from London.

      • quota raven says

        Feb 5, 2017 at 6:46 pm

        Allan – I just read Article VII, and, with all due respect, I don’t understand what you say above, nor do I understand its connection or relevance to the issue at hand: Nathan Lean. Could you clarify?

        Cheers!

        quota raven

        • Allan says

          Feb 5, 2017 at 7:45 pm

          quota raven,

          How could A7 tell you what the law is before “Establishment” of the constitution of which A7 is a part? When and how did that clause become law so that it would be proper to invoke it as reason for believing how the other six articles, too, may be ratified and established?

          Suppose for a moment that it’s still Tuesday, Sept. 18, 1787. The draft of the C. is circulating among the well connected people of Philadelphia, and everyone there who reads it agrees that neither ratification nor establishment has taken place. They all agree that it’s not the supreme law of the land. So why should any of those people believe that one portion, namely A7, states the law on any topic, esp. ratification and establishment?

          As for the connection to Mr. Lean, recall Kay’s remarks about sedition, which is defined as “incitement of discontent or rebellion against a government”. It’s rather clear that the central government of the USA stands on swampy legal ground. I would go so far as to say that it is an illegitimate goverment. (There are other reasons in addition to the one cited. For example, the indiscriminate populism of the preamble is an abomination. Wastrels, imbeciles, and children do not have any of the authority implied.*) So sedition against this government is not necessarily illicit and unworthy of tolerance. But as I suggested above, too many American males are self-absorbed, aloof, and oblivious to care much about sedition, even by Mr. Lean, who appears to have no coherent objection to Trump or the form of America’s central government.

          * A defensible opening of the preamble would read something like this: We, the qualified Adults.

        • quota raven says

          Feb 5, 2017 at 8:00 pm

          Thanks very much, Allan. I very much appreciate your edifying reply.

          Cheers!

          quota raven

        • Wellington says

          Feb 5, 2017 at 7:49 pm

          The SOB, Allan, is a troll, quota raven. Article VII is crystal clear (and quite short) in that it states unambiguously that when nine of the thirteen states ratify the Constitution, it will go into effect.

          New Hampshire, where my wife and I are fortunate enough to have a vacation home and which is my second favorite state next to Pennsylvania (which was second to ratify the Constitution after Delaware), was the ninth state which did so (June 21st, 1788) and thus put the Constitution, which four-time Prime Minister of the UK, William Gladstone, called the greatest document ever created by man, into effect. Virginia ratified the Constitution just four days later and New York the next month. North Carolina didn’t ratify it until November of1789 and “little Rhody” (Rhode Island) until May 29th of 1790, May 29th being JFK’s birthday in 1917 and Rhode Island the state where he got married to Jacqueline in 1953, but I digress.

          Well, to get back to the issue at hand. Allan is a malicious poster here. He talks nonsense in order to divert. He is at best a fool, at worst something execrable. Ignore him unless it is to make fun of the bastard.

          Note bene (N.B.), Allan, that I and others are on to you. You are either a leftie or a Muzzie. A third alternative is about as probable as the sun blowing up tomorrow. So, please stick it where the sun never shines. Instructive, highly, how lefties and Muzzies must dissemble, as you have, and just can’t be a straight talker. Highly instructive.

          And good-bye for now, quota raven, shrewd observer that you are. Take good care.

          Cheers,

          Wellington

        • quota raven says

          Feb 5, 2017 at 8:29 pm

          To Wellington – When I wrote that Allan’s response was “edifying” I know it was not obvious, but I was actually privately thinking that it is edifying only insorfar as it is an indication of HIS misguided and creative interpretation. After reading Article VII, it seemed to me that his original reference made no sense at all. Thanks for pointing out that he is a troll of one kind or another. I hadn’t realized.

          I agree: Article VII is abundantly clear and says what you say it does.

          ” He talks nonsense in order to divert.” applies absolutely, according to how I (and you) read VII..His answer to me actually makes no sense at all! I probably shouldn’t have replied to his to mine in such a supportive manner, when I’m as capable of being as snotty and demeaning as the next fella!

          BTW, NH is a favorite state of mine, as well; I went to high school there (back in the stone age), in Littleton/Bethleham and sang in the Bethleham Episcopal Church, and those four years were perhaps the most formative of my life. Love Franconia Notch, too, where my family used to come in the summer, to Lovett’s!

          Cheers!

          quota raven

        • quota raven says

          Feb 6, 2017 at 1:26 am

          To Wellilngton – Thank you for the nice compliment!))) And all the best to you and yours, as well. I think you are the first commentor to catch my attention here at JW about ten years ago! You and Gravenimage, then many others. Cheers! qr

        • Wellington says

          Feb 5, 2017 at 8:02 pm

          Dear Allan: You are so full of shit. You really think your highly sophistic and fallcious assessment of Article VII supersedes the collective wisdom of the Founders who crafted that magnificent document? My God man, you don’t even demonstrate the rudiments of a comprehension of English Common Law, never mind sundry other deficiencies.

          You know, I’m not certain what your “game” is, but that you are playing a game is crystal clear. And honest people, people who have retained their common sense and have moral intelligence, people who have grown up, should not play games such as you have.

          Telling. Damning. And also pathetic. .

        • Wellington says

          Feb 5, 2017 at 8:52 pm

          Dear quota raven: My 7:49 P.M. post was a response to your 6:46 P.M. post and not to your 8:00 P.M. post which left no doubt where you stand on the matter of “Allan,” whom I think should begin posting under another name since as “Allan” he has clearly revealed himself for what he is——–a dishonest human being.

          And thanks for letting me know about your familiarity with NH.. I have been to the Littleton area many times (there’s a great coin outlet up there and just love the diner in downtown Littleton) and to the magnificent Franconia Notch area too (damn shame the Old Man of the Mountain fell down back on May 3rd, 2003, but the “guy” lasted for some 10,000 years or more and will forever remain an iconic figure of the Live Free or Die State, freedom being something which Islam knows nothing about but about dying most surely.

          Take care, my friend. As ever I remain,

          Incorrigibly and non-Islamically yours,

          Wellington

        • quota raven says

          Feb 5, 2017 at 9:14 pm

          “the old man of the mountain” Oh! I’d forgot about his falling. Just an awful thing! We loved him so much; first sighting of him back in the day was the sign that we had “arrived”!. qr

        • Westman says

          Feb 20, 2017 at 10:04 am

          I suppose that among Allan’s assertions, one seems to have some current credence: “…too many American males are self-absorbed, aloof, and oblivious to care much about sedition ..”

          We have a current sedition lying within our own government’s intelligence community. The illegal recording of Michael Flynn’s conversation, the illegal release(leak), and the illegal printing by the agenda-media to damage the Trump Presidency and Flynn.

          Considering the current economic weakness of the agenda-media, enforcing the law would have serious effects; eventually working back to and eliminating the source. The agenda–media might survive but not without economic and credibility scars that will dampen future routine acceptance of seditious “leaks”.

        • quota raven says

          Feb 20, 2017 at 10:38 am

          Interesting, Westman. Agreed. Cheers! qr

    • Meeekle says

      Feb 5, 2017 at 7:59 pm

      Very simplified answer:
      Because these are the fruit if the last couple generations of indoctrinators’ work: the fully indoctrinated.
      The indoctrinators are protecting their progeny.
      We are much further gone than it has seemed.

  8. Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY) says

    Feb 5, 2017 at 4:55 pm

    Nathan Lean isn’t fun anymore. I wish he would give up his academic gig and return to his career as an entertainer:

  9. Angemon says

    Feb 5, 2017 at 4:55 pm

    This whole anti-Trumpism from the loser overgrown children who can’t accept the outcome of a perfectly fair and democratic election is made more egregious when one looks at what Trump is doing and see that, if it were done by Hillary, they would likely to cheer her from the sidelines. For example, the WH recently suggested that Israeli settlements might be a hindrance in the “Quest for Peace”. That is very close to the general lines of the Obama administration regarding Israel. The Trump-appointed US ambassador to the UN, Nikki Haley, recently said that the Obama-imposed sanctions on Russia will continue until they remove their troops from Crimea and return it to Ukraine – hardly what one would expect from a “Russian puppet”, I’d say. And the so-called “muslim ban”, which is a temporary moratorium on visas from a few specific nations to buy time for the creation of a better vetting program, is the logical step from the Obama administration acknowledging that those countries were a hot bed of terrorism.

    Time flows like a river and history repeats itself. All these anti-Trump morons are doing is ensure that Trump will get 8, not 4, years. And I, for one, couldn’t be happier at that prospect.

    http://i.imgur.com/Vyx4Jgp.png

    • Mark Swan says

      Feb 6, 2017 at 12:56 am

      Thanks Angemon, a good quote from Mr. Reagan.

  10. Spike1033 says

    Feb 5, 2017 at 5:02 pm

    Seems to me that if you write and print this sort of message Mr Lean is treading on very dangerous ground. Whether it can be named sedition or treason is debateable but it’s certainly one of the two. Not sure what the penalty is but it’s a very long time. Mr Trump is a democratically elected leader. If you want to get rid of him it’s easy – just wait four years and use the ballot box. Otherwise shut the f### up!

  11. joscefi says

    Feb 5, 2017 at 5:31 pm

    If this were posed as an honest question, the answer to it would be 2020, when he’ll have the opportunity to elect another President, in President Trump’s stead. Of course, all things being equal, I’ll probably be praying for four more years then.

  12. Ashley says

    Feb 5, 2017 at 5:40 pm

    Lean is not content to spread lies about those whom he hates; he is also the lowest kind of thug, and has repeatedly tweeted out links to what he thinks is my home address and places that I frequent (he was wrong in both cases, but that’s beside the point), in an obvious attempt either to frighten me into silence or to signal to his jihadi friends and allies where I can be found and killed.
    __________________

    Robert, this shit HAS to be reported to the proper authorities.

    I wonder how Georgetown feels about having a deranged stalker on their payroll?

    Hey…I know many that want to see Trump impeached and tossed out of office. We simply agree to disagree. We take our differing political views off the table and move on. We do NOT resort to menacing tactics.

    Lean belongs behind bars on charges of intimidation, harassment, and stalking.

    PRESS THOSE CHARGES!

  13. David says

    Feb 5, 2017 at 6:03 pm

    These liberals are pushing to far! So give them what they are asking for & second civil war!!! Then they will start whinning ( stop stop)! hey stop. But once you start a fight. The fight has a life of it’s own! This liberal act of intolerance has to be quelled.

  14. DFD says

    Feb 5, 2017 at 6:06 pm

    Interesting chap. Either School of Frankfurt or secret convert to Islam.

    I suspect the former, the operating, or behavior, pattern fits precisely their instructions.

    • maghan says

      Feb 6, 2017 at 3:08 am

      No, just a Liberal. A lover of Islam, murdering refugees, Sharia, and the LGBT crowd. That’s all.

  15. abad says

    Feb 5, 2017 at 6:07 pm

    Send Nathan Lean to live with his Freedom Fighters(TM) in Syria for awhile.

    Doubt that would change his mind, but it would still do him a world of good.

    • Terry says

      Feb 15, 2017 at 7:59 pm

      And, with some luck, he would get killed. Along with a whole bunch of other terrorists aka freedom fighters.

  16. Stan Lee says

    Feb 5, 2017 at 6:44 pm

    An uprising against Lean and his Commie protegees of Georgetown U. and affiliates would be the answer to this breed of “hate America” types in academia.
    Georgetown was a notable institution once upon a time, but its laurels have been exchanged for its membership in the anti-Constitution movement.

  17. Terry says

    Feb 5, 2017 at 9:34 pm

    Trump has been PRESIDENT FOR TWO WEEKS.

    HOW SICK IS THIS BASTARD.

    SEE MY NEXT COMMENT

  18. Terry says

    Feb 5, 2017 at 9:40 pm

    PUBLIC UPRISING/IMPEACHMENT.

    LOOK AT THE STATISTICS- FORGET THE “POPULAR VOTE” BULL SHIT.

    IN THE US THERE ARE 3,144 COUNTIES (PARISHES IN LOUISIANA) ( AS PER GOOGLE)

    IN 22016 TRUMP HAD A PLURALITY OR MAJORITY IN 3,084 OF THEM .

    IF MY $1.07 CALCULATOR IS ACCURATE, THAT IS A SHADE OVER 98% OF THE PEOPLE- BY COUNTY- VOTED FOR MR. TRUMP.

    ACCORDING TO A WALL STREET JOURNAL WRITER/EDITOR, IF ONLY 5 COUNTIES IN THE NEW YORK CITY AREA (PRIMARILY, I BELIEVE, MANHATTAN) AND THE LOS ANGELES CAL. AREA ARE REMOVED, PRES. TRUMP WON THE POPULAR VOTE.

    NOTE NEW YORK CITY– JUST BEFORE THE PRIMARIES- SOME 125,000 PEOPLE WERE REMOVED FROM THE VOTING LISTS–FOR NO REASON.

    EVEN THE DEMOCRATIC STATE A.G. WAS PISSED Z(OR APPEARED TO BE). IN L.A., I BELIEVE THAT PICTURE ID WAS NOT NEEDED TO VOTE.

    ——————————————————————————————————————————————–

    THE MAN- FORGOT THE NAME- WHO SAID THAT THERE WERE 3 MILLION ILLEGALS VOTING–REGISTERED TO VOTE IN THREE DIFFERENT STATES. DID NOT SAY IF HE DID, JUST THAT HE WAS REGISTERED TO. (ON A TAMPA BAY RADIO PROGRAM)

    ————————————————————————————————————————————–

  19. No Fear says

    Feb 5, 2017 at 9:42 pm

    How long will it take for leftists to accept democracy?

  20. Terry says

    Feb 5, 2017 at 9:42 pm

    In my opinion, any Congressman (or Senator facing re-election) in 2018 who dares bring this up- would probably face a huge backlash. Some, like the black congressmen who did not attend the inauguration, are from ” safe areas”. But, even safe areas sometimes turn unsafe- for incumbents.

  21. underbed cat says

    Feb 6, 2017 at 12:47 am

    The mindset of a lot the university leftist liberal professors, students and working democratic liberals, view our society as only composed of angry white men, KKK, racist, think riot damage part of exercising free speech, want the young to have safe spaces for ideas they don’t like, have little to no knowledge of sharia law, think Trump is a Nazi, while gathering their tax supported scholarships, off the very people equally, if not smarter and compassionate, working class they denigrate. Not all of course but many who can’t concieve that Americans have any value and match Hilliary’s deplorable comment about American. They find the business experts completely capitalistic crooks who should not be allowed to enter the government, it is quite incredible the hate they carry…..and talking to the clueless, gives men a headache.

    • Terry says

      Feb 15, 2017 at 8:25 pm

      There was a tv newscaster, paid mega millions ( female) ( this was, I think a year or two ago) who on tv verbally castigated a business executive who saved a business, and a few hundred jobs., for taking a $1 million bonus.

      Hypocrisy at its sort of finest. Liberturds are great at that

  22. Joel A Tompkins says

    Feb 6, 2017 at 2:23 am

    He is not going anywhere we put him in office and he is staying.

  23. duh swami says

    Feb 6, 2017 at 5:02 am

    Nathan is a low life character familiar to old time JW’er’s…He and Spencer have had numerous go encounters in the past…Lean is a very ‘nasty’ man’…

  24. dumbledoresarmy says

    Feb 6, 2017 at 5:31 am

    Nathan Lean, paid shill for Islam, and quite probably a closet convert, called for the overthrow of the American President.

    Hmmm.

    Reminds me of something, something to which attention was drawn, long long ago – *eight years*, more or less – by an astute jihadwatch poster. I was so struck by it, that I made and kept a copy for my files (just as well that I did, for the thread in which it appeared, disappeared in the course of an internet meltdown that struck jihadwatch not long after).

    It comprises a set of excerpts from an autobiographical book by an American convert to Islam, one Jeff Lang, entitled “Even Angels Ask”, which said Jihadwatch poster had come across, and had read, with attention.

    The book was published in **1997**. And it includes an account of a conversation that occurred at least ten years previously.

    Anyway: here are those excerpts from “Even Angels Ask”.

    QUOTE FROM ORIGINAL POST
    ‘On Muslim jurisprudence and interpretation and application of the founding texts:

    LANG SAYS: “A minority of Muslims … believes that we must remain cognizant of the historical context of Muhammad’s actions and sayings and that if we are to apply his example correctly, we must be alert to the many differences that exist between his time and ours…

    LANG SAYS: “The main assumption behind the stricter approach [which is followed by the majority] is that the best and most efficient way to derive moral and spiritual benefit from Muhammad’s life example is by imitating him as closely as possible. (p. 104)

    And (again, this is Lang’s own words, from the book):
    “Almost all (note that ‘almost ALL’ – dda) Muslim religious leaders … uphold the classical dar al Islam/ dar al harb concept …

    “**This poses a very difficult personal dilemma for many converts, because it seems to them that to become a Muslim, they are required to become enemies of their own countries** [my emphasis – dda] (p. 119)

    The jihadwatch commenter then added –

    ‘And Lang writes of his own experience attending a Muslim lecture at an American mosque in the early 80s (nota bene – we are talking about something that happened **in the early 1980s** – dda)

    [LANG] “The second lecture was given by Hisham, a very bright medical student who had been studying in America for almost two years. I liked and respected Hisham very much…

    “Hisham spoke that night about a Muslim’s duties and responsibilities…

    “His speech was very moving and had been running about an hour when he closed it with the following unexpected and stern remark.

    “Finally, we must never forget–and this is extremely important–that **as Muslims, we are obligated to desire, and when possible to participate in, the overthrow of any non-Islamic government–anywhere in the world–in order to replace it by an Islamic one.** [my emphasis – dda]”

    “Hisham!” I interrupted. “Are you implying that Muslim American citizens are to commit themselves to the destruction of the U.S. government?– That they are to be a fifth column in America–a secret revolutionary group seeking to overthrow the government? Do you mean that when an American converts to Islam he must commit himself to political treason?!”

    “I thought that by presenting Hisham with a very extreme scenario, it would force him to soften or qualify his statement.

    “He looked down at the floor as he pondered my question momentarily.

    “Then he looked at me with an expression that reminded me of a doctor about to break the news to his patient that his tumor is malignant.

    “”Yes,” he said. “Yes, that’s true.” (p. 117).” [END OF EXCERPTS FROM LANG]

    FROM JIHADWATCH THREAD, 4 August 2009.

    To repeat. Two people – one an expert and devout cradle-Muslim, a guest lecturer at a mosque in America, discussing the ‘duties and responsibilities’ of being a Muslim – and the other, a native-born American convert to Islam.

    The Musilm states, “”Finally, we must never forget–and this is extremely important–that as Muslims, we are obligated to desire, and when possible to participate in, the overthrow of any non-Islamic government–anywhere in the world–in order to replace it by an Islamic one.”

    See that? – “…as Muslims, we are obligated to desire, and when possible to participate in, the overthrow of any non-Islamic government–anywhere in the world–in order to replace it by an Islamic one.”

    The American convert, who seems not to have previously heard of this aspect of his new faith, responds: “”Are you implying that Muslim American citizens are to commit themselves to the destruction of the U.S. government?–That they are to be a fifth column in America–a secret revolutionary group seeking to overthrow the government? Do you mean that when an American converts to Islam he must commit himself to political treason?!”

    And then the born-and-raised Muslim replies – with one word – YES.

    • quota raven says

      Feb 6, 2017 at 7:53 am

      DDA writes, ““Finally, we must never forget–and this is extremely important–that **as Muslims, we are obligated to desire, and when possible to participate in, the overthrow of any non-Islamic government–anywhere in the world–in order to replace it by an Islamic one.** [my emphasis – dda]”

      Followed by:
      “The American convert, who seems not to have previously heard of this aspect of his new faith, responds: “”Are you implying that Muslim American citizens are to commit themselves to the destruction of the U.S. government?–That they are to be a fifth column in America–a secret revolutionary group seeking to overthrow the government? Do you mean that when an American converts to Islam he must commit himself to political treason?!”

      And then the born-and-raised Muslim replies – with one word – YES.”

      And that’s pretty much the long and the short of it. Islam and the US Constitution (as an example) are diametrically opposed ideologically and politically, and completely,, utterly incompatible.

      Anywone attempting to find a solution to this cunundrun really has to think outside the box. And grow a pair, too.

      Cheers!

      quota raven

  25. Atheist Kaffur says

    Feb 6, 2017 at 9:22 am

    The uprising occurred at the airport when people occupied the outside and inside protesting against the the travel ban. Nowhere in the world will you see an airport being occupied by a demonstration. NEVER! This happened with the blessing of the CIA and potentially the FBI. Airports are always the first targets in a coup.. Very dangerous president. This calling for sedition is also very dangerous.

  26. Troybeam says

    Feb 6, 2017 at 9:24 am

    The liberals are flipin nuts, they did not say a word when Obama put a ban on Muslims from the list he put together yet President Trump uses that same list and the libnuts go crazy screaming its wrong. Listen up people: if you take the people out of Islam completely they can be decent yet when you have people in Islam they become a rage machine screaming unfairness etc but know this, in Islam there are rules for non-Muslims in an Islamic state, those rules that were used against the Jewish people in WW2, wearing the Star of David, living in the gettos, not walking on the same side of the street as Germans, etc…all of that is in sharia law: Reliance of the Traveller:Islamic Sacred Law, Chapter title: o11.0 Non Muslim Subjects of the Islamic State: (AHL AL-DHIMMA) PAGE 607 to 609.

    Adolf Hitler and Islam when you read the above chapter one can see how Hitler used Islam against the Jewish people, why do you think Islam always praises Hitler.

  27. mortimer says

    Feb 6, 2017 at 9:42 am

    Academe is filled now with seditious people at the top and at the bottom. They are all potential Death Camp operators. They have no definition of ‘evil’, so they have no way to stop the worst evils from occurring. They angry, resentful opportunists drinking deep drafts of the poison of VICTIMHOOD.

    • Pumbar says

      Feb 6, 2017 at 11:19 pm

      Frankfurt school brainwashed brainwashers Mortimer, squeezing out more and more deluded, debt laden drones every year.
      The UK police’s new recruits will each require a degree by 2020. Imagine what sort of rubbish they will ingest by the time they don the uniform.

  28. Carolyne says

    Feb 6, 2017 at 9:56 am

    I believe it is illegal to publicly advocate the overthrow of the government by force. This man should be arrested for sedition.

  29. imasaint says

    Feb 6, 2017 at 11:48 am

    Sedition it is. Arrest him.

  30. Cretius says

    Feb 6, 2017 at 12:56 pm

    Lean is the grand example of the Mohammedan teaching of using lies and deceit to protect Mohammedans and to achieve Islamic goals.

    The useful idiots that support his views on campus demonstrate how many students are little more than sheep led by a Judas goat!

    Many universities are no longer centres of learning but rather are lightening rods for political correctness and have therefore given up on critical discussion and debate.

  31. carlos danger says

    Feb 6, 2017 at 5:01 pm

    Lean and the University which harbors him are festering carbuncles on the arse of the Catholic Church in America?

  32. solange silverman says

    Feb 6, 2017 at 8:39 pm

    Another one who only likes democracy when it works for him. But is was okay for us to put up with Reagan, Clinton, Bush and Obummer, all agents of the globalist elite, as this man apparently also is. Tsk, too bad, buddy, the majority has spoken, deal with it. Maybe we can get Trump to say to you, “You’re fired!”

  33. vcragain says

    Feb 10, 2017 at 8:51 pm

    For everyone who reads this site to immediately jump into Trumpland & defend him – you are confusing your political views with your views of Islam – the two views have ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with each other. You can believe that Trump is a crazy fool only interested in himself & still believe that Islam itself is a religion of evil intent – notwithstanding the millions of ordinary folks who believe in it & follow it simply because that is what they were born into. Since this particular website is devoted to the latter I am really annoyed that the writers of this article cannot keep their concepts straight. Believe in Trump if you like, it is your right to do so, but this is not the place to push that belief. This website is about Islam, not about politics per se. I seem to have to repeat this too many times on here it makes me rather disgusted ! Keep to the topic in hand, there are multiple political beliefs represented by the readers of this site.

  34. Terry says

    Feb 15, 2017 at 8:42 pm

    To Vcragain.

    Pres. Trump SEEMS TO BE, IN NORTH AMERICA, THE ONLY NATIONAL LEADER who sees Islam as a problem.

    Perhaps there are some Democrats who do- but they seem to be silent. The same is true to a great extent of Republicans, and the third party people.

    In Canada, Mr. Harper is out of office, and Trudeau seems-as per the Canadians here, be in love with Islam.

    Hence, the liking of Mr. Trump.

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