Longtime Jihad Watch readers are familiar with the horrifying case of Amina and Sarah Said, whom their father Yaser Said murdered in an honor killing in Texas on New Year’s Day in 2008.
“Trotter added that Amina and Sarah had nowhere to turn in Texas. No one understood that a teenager saying ‘My Dad is going to kill me’ is a serious cry for help, not adolescent drama.”
No one understood it because no one knows much of anything about honor killing. If they have heard of it at all, they think of it as something that is a weird cultural practice done by people in far-off countries. If authorities in Texas had been aware of how many Muslim countries tolerate it, and how it is justified in Islamic law, they might have taken the Said girls’ claims more seriously.
Muslims commit 91 percent of honor killings worldwide. A manual of Islamic law certified as a reliable guide to Sunni orthodoxy by Al-Azhar, the most respected authority in Sunni Islam, says that “retaliation is obligatory against anyone who kills a human being purely intentionally and without right.” However, “not subject to retaliation” is “a father or mother (or their fathers or mothers) for killing their offspring, or offspring’s offspring.” (‘Umdat al-Salik o1.1-2). In other words, someone who kills his child incurs no legal penalty under Islamic law. In this case the victim was the murderer’s daughter, a victim to the culture of violence and intimidation that such laws help create.
The Palestinian Authority gives pardons or suspended sentences for honor murders. Iraqi women have asked for tougher sentences for Islamic honor murderers, who get off lightly now. Syria in 2009 scrapped a law limiting the length of sentences for honor killings, but “the new law says a man can still benefit from extenuating circumstances in crimes of passion or honour ‘provided he serves a prison term of no less than two years in the case of killing.’” And in 2003 the Jordanian Parliament voted down on Islamic grounds a provision designed to stiffen penalties for honor killings. Al-Jazeera reported that “Islamists and conservatives said the laws violated religious traditions and would destroy families and values.”
Until the encouragement Islamic law gives to honor killing is acknowledged and confronted, more women will suffer.
“‘Nice legs. Mmm very nice’: Disturbing home video reveals creepy relationship slain Texas teenage sisters had with their Egyptian father who fled nine years ago after their ‘honor killings,'” by Kaileen Gaul, Dailymail.com, February 3, 2017:
Newly released home movies show the creepy relationship Yaser Abdel Said had with his two daughters he is accused of murdering in a motel parking lot.
Home video shows Said lurking in the bedrooms of daughters Sarah, 17, and Amina, 18, making leering comments at his children.
In a clip, the father says: ‘Nice legs. Mmm very nice.’ He tells this to his teenage daughters as he pans over their legs with the camera as they lie in bed.
‘Sarah sleeps with her pants? Mmm, very nice. Wow, look at those eyes. I got my eye on you,’ Said says. The girls seem harassed by their father and yell at him to get out of their room.
In another disturbing part of the Crime Watch Daily footage, Amina is seen playing with a gun.
Said is accused of shooting Sarah and Amina Said 11 times in a taxi on New Year’s Day in 2008. Some of his relatives speculate these may have been ‘honor killings.’
Said fled from Irving, Texas after his daughters were murdered and made an appearance on the FBI’s most wanted list in 2014.
The girls accused their father of sexual abuse in 1998 when they were eight and nine years old according to Dallas Morning News.
They later took back the accusation saying they lied so they could live with their grandmother and not in rural Texas. But their mother swore in an affidavit that they were telling the truth.
Family members say the Egyptian-born father was obsessive about his daughters’ virginity and believed western society was corrupting the girls.
He allegedly threatened to kill them when he found out they had boyfriends at their high school.
The teens’ mother Patricia Owens rejects the notion that the girls were murdered to protect their chastity.
Under the guise of taking to get the girls something to eat, Said allegedly took them in a taxi and shot them dead to defend their honor.
Sarah Said’s called 911 while inside the cab. Her final words were ‘Oh my God, I’m dying’. Then the emergency operator heard a barrage of gunshots.
The Saids’ case was featured in the documentary The Price of Honor.
The film tells how the American teenagers were unable to slip free of their Egyptian father’s suffocating control, ultimately victims of what filmmakers say is a trend of honor killings that goes unrecognized in the US.
In the documentary Ruth Trotter says: ‘Amina always knew that Yaser was going to murder her, it was just a question of when and where.’
Amina was dating Trotter’s son, Joseph, when she died, and Sarah also had a boyfriend, though both had tried to keep this from their father.
‘She made Joseph promise that he would not harm himself, that when she dies he would live,’ Trotter added.
The documentary reveals that when Amina was 15 Yaser took his daughters to Egypt to find husbands.
Trotter said he picked one man who was almost 50 for Amina to marry but she begged and pleaded with her mother to come back home.
Trotter added that Amina and Sarah had nowhere to turn in Texas. No one understood that a teenager saying ‘My Dad is going to kill me’ is a serious cry for help, not adolescent drama….
ed cox says
Very sad .
Manuel 2 Paleologus says
And this is nothing new about islam. This says a lot and all!
paul says
guess he was off goats
miriamrove says
Hi! Can this video be posted again? There is nothing here. M
miriamrove says
Sorry. Never mind. I just saw it. What a sick bastards he is. m
Kathy Brown, Esq. says
He sure is Miriam.
FYI: Often these things are taken down but when that happens I go to ‘Live Leak’. They always have it. Also ‘Bare Naked Islam’.
DRHazard says
The real problem here is how Islamic scriptures and those who interpret it, can contribute to removing the one thing that stops so many marginally murderous individuals from acting on their impulses: guilt and self reflection. In fact it replaces those traits with divine support for murderous intentions. But to speak of such things, even if all you do is quote the Quran and Hadith, is simply not permitted in the public arena. This culture of looking the other way, pretending Islamic doctrines are the opposite of the what they actually are, and diminishing the evilness inherent in the religion by falsely equating it with something else (Christianity, democracy, etc.) make those who engage in all this stupidity complicit in murder. If someone calls anyone an Islamophobe or racist for simply pointing out what is written in the Quran, Hadith and biographies of Muhammad, and avoids discussing or denies what is self evident about Islam, they are accomplices to murder. These enablers are everywhere and their existence is completely dependent on willfully remaining ignorant of Islam while claiming those who know the most about it are the ones who don’t understand the “true Islam”. It’s equivalent to calling someone who believes in day and night a moron unworthy of anything but silencing in some way, through dismissive ridicule, legal punishment or assassination. And for some reason Islam and Muslims are the only recipients of this incomprehensible excuse making and denial from otherwise rational human beings.
It’s almost as if Islam is so horrible that the only way for some minds to incorporate it into their mental world is to completely surrender to stupidity and emotionalism.
Klaus says
In psychology there is a defense mechanism known as identification with the aggressor. It’s logic goes like “if i become like the aggressor then i am safe from his attacks.”
David Scoltock says
One minute Spencer is slagging off the mail, next he’s using it as a primary source
Angemon says
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2017/02/daily-mail-defames-geert-wilders-as-rabble-rouser-wide-boy-of-european-politics
gravenimage says
One can disagree with a paper’s editorial stance; that does not mean it is not a source for hard news. This should not be a difficult concept.
Nigel GFF says
The way this news organ vacillates can be particularly irksome (see also Rev.3:15-16).
But hey, they have sources.
on the ridge says
I guess the police couldn’t do anything unless they had ‘proof’ that the father was going to murder his daughters, and the only proof that they could get, were the dead bodies of the girls. How horrible. What an awful trap to be in when born into a Muslim family. No escape.
gravenimage says
These girls should have fled when they realized that their father was serious about killing them.
somehistory says
They did leave. Their mother talked them into seeing their father, telling them that he loved them. They gave in and that is the day he murdered them.
girlgirl says
Don’t get me wwrong islam is far from being a feminist religion. But if he molested his daughters and he was a good muslims he should have contacted some salafists to murder him. extraconiugal relationships or even interactions are haram , even for the men (isis murdered heterosexual men for adultery too) .
I think islam made him sexist but he wasn’t an observant muslim. he was a simply a sexist pig who was overly jealous of his daughters. He wished he could use his daughters as his “wives”
Lesley says
Observant Muslims cannot be called “good” by any Western rule of measure– ever.
The children should have had legal protection from their father and therapy, and the father should have been designated as a registered sex offender, and imprisoned. That’s how we do it in the civilized world, girlgirl
gravenimage says
girlgirl, incest and abuse of children is *rife* in the Muslim world. The idea that pious Muslims would have been appalled by this is, I’m afraid, quite mistaken.
Custos Custodum says
This is one of the many taboo facts that somehow don’t make it into high school and college curricula in the U.S. and Europe.
Even more taboo, of course, is the fact that most Africans enslaved by Arabs were castrated upon capture. More than half died as a result, the survivors were used as harem eunuchs and for other tasks.
Female African slaves who became pregnant by their “owners” often had their children killed after birth.
Isabella says
Where is the sick bastard ? How come he has not been caught yet????? Can Interpol do anything???
mortimer says
Sharia law clearly makes a provision for honor killing. It is not helpful for their cause for any Muslims to DENY that honor killing isn’t Islamic, because we can read it for ourselves in black and white in the ‘RELIANCE OF THE TRAVELLER, o1.1-2’.
Guilty. Case closed.
Tommy says
I had refuge Bagdad, neighbors , to make a long story short…My daughter was talking to those daughters….the BASTARD father will do virginity test on them. I stopped saying ‘h’ to these misfits.
Plus the whole apartment buiding got infested with bed bugs
davej says
In the Muslim world the daughters are considered to be property, same as the wife. So the father is free to sexualize them and murder them, as sick as that is.
Proving again that Islam is the most violent and perverted ideology in the world.
gravenimage says
True, Dave.
somehistory says
Those who are aware of just how slimy evil islam is should think of a word or phrase to replace the term, the misnomer, *honor-killing.* Just because the scum slugs use it, doesn’t make it something others should call this despicable practice.
i remember this multiple murder of those girls, the interview with the mother who put her daughters into the murderer’s hands…choosing to believe him when she should have known all along just how evil he is.
And the relatives that helped him flee the country before he could be caught and made to pay for what he did…the rapes and the murders of his daughters.
There is a special hot spot waiting for the scum slug murderer.
davej says
Agreed, there is no honor in view here.
How about “ego-murder”? “Familial genocide”?
Words do fail us in describing the horror show of Islam.
Mac-101 says
I’ve had friends who were stationed in the Sinai under peace keeping and others who were military advisors to the Egyptian Army and they almost ALL said the Egyptian fathers would back door their daughters at a very young age. Back in the 1980s and 1990s and the girls would party with the GIs and have a good time but only went back door to protect their virginity since they would be killed if on their wedding night they were NOT a virgin!
bernie says
Most Egyptian girls are also victims of FGM as well, so I’ve read and heard.
gravenimage says
Yes, Bernie–up to 95% of them have been mutilated.
Ian from Liverpool says
Honour means something very different here in the west and a father is meant to protect his children those two poor kids barely stood a chance of living a normal life. Mostly because like in Rotherham, England the Authorities are wilfully ignorant of Islamic culture and are happy to remain so.
Francis says
How very true.
gravenimage says
“Nice legs”: Video shows Texas Muslim father making creepy remarks to daughters he murdered in honor killing
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None of this surprises–Muslims concerned about the “Honor” of their daughters engaged in abuse. Mainstream Islam.
And these poor girls–their killer has not been caught yet.
Here’s the original story, for those who may not be familiar with this atrocity:
“FBI admits that the murder of Amina and Sarah Said may have been an honor killing”
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2008/10/fbi-admits-that-the-murder-of-amina-and-sarah-said-may-have-been-an-honor-killing
Custos Custodum says
Note that George W “Religion of Peace” Bush was president at the time.
Even back then, the FBI had already learned to resist “admitting” that a double murder might have been an Islamic “honor” killing.
BTW could it be that the double murderer (not “father”) was tipped off by law enforcement in order to avoid embarrassing GWB’s good friends, the Saudis?
John says
Every time i consider the barbaric teachings and beliefs of Islam, the more i am convinced that Satan is real and he is alive here on earth camouflaged as the “Religion of peace”.
Backbone says
All evil mohammadens will follow their false prophet into hell.
His fate and their fate is shown in famous paintings like this –
http://www.poderesantapia.com/art/giovannidamodena.htm
Mira Chaikin says
These were good kids, nice girls and were doing nothing to justify being victims of honor killings, if there is any justification in it at all.
The father could not handle Western society, notably the dress and allowed activities of women and probably many other things. One wonders why he moved to the US . The people who were helping those kids underestimated the evil intent of the father and should have taken stronger steps to protect them. One of the daughters was positive she was going to be killed from that family-member.
Az gal says
They come here because our country is better. All non Muslum countries are better than Muslum countries
common sense says
One would think that we’d recognize and outlaw parallel societies that allow anyone to carry out false imprisonment and grisly murders like this. Its no different than evil occult groups birthing children in the woods with the help of false mid-wives then using that child for human sacrifice and God knows what else.
Evil is rife on our world we’d best identify it and squash it before more of the same continues, I see Trump working and being defied, what does that say?
Schrödinger says
The disturbing Daily Mail photo of this monster Yasser Abdul Said helps illustrate an uncomfortable fact that many, not only those in the counter-jihad, cannot confront about muslims — that at least part of the problem with islam probably resides on the Y chromosome (and elsewhere along the genomes of many — including female muslims).
Calm down. This is NOT a racist accusation. There are muslims from all races of peoples, and it’s obvious the principal factor leading to someone becoming muslim is being born into a muslim society. However it’s necessary to at least consider the notion of genetically predisposing factors, not simply environmental aspects, in seeking to better understand what makes some individuals in non muslim societies more drawn to such an ideology and belief system (sexual predators, those more violent in general, unsuccessful people and assorted psychologically marginal persons in general seem drawn to it like moths to a flame) as well as why particular individuals in muslim societies tend to be far more pious and fanatical than others. It may also assist in explaining, at least in general terms, why certain races of people may be more predisposed to islam. That assertion may also seem a heresy to many, as it least countenances the notion there may be genetic factors involved, hence again be accused as being “racist” — however it’s been qualified in that it’s still only speaking in general terms.
Both science and human progress in general have often had to overcome many heresies and other prejudices hindering what would otherwise be a more unfettered ascent. And Said’s deceased daughters don’t appear to be suffering the same genetic defect or other psychopathy as their father.
To all muslims, like this creep Said, to you and your Dhimmi apologists that perpetually blame us; it isn’t Western society that’s corrupting your children but you that threaten and corrupt Western society. Tragically, we can’t always save either your children nor our own anymore from your daily, escalating, murderous depredations. Time therefore to stop the rot: build that wall against islam.