Orban has a point: Merkel and her fellow globalist internationalists are bringing huge numbers of people into Europe who come from a culture that has a model of society and governance that is touted as superior to all others. Many of the “refugees” are coming with the goal, or determination, of replacing existing European legal systems and societal structures with ones based on Sharia. The conflict between such people and those who support the existing systems is inevitable. The globalists have brought Europe to the brink of civil war. Why shouldn’t those who do not wish to live in a repressive socialist multicultural Sharia paradise have a refuge, just as do those putatively fleeing war in Syria?
“Orban: Hungary Will Welcome ‘European Refugees’ Fleeing Multicultural West,” by Jack Montgomery, Breitbart, February 11, 2017:
Hungarian prime minister Viktor Orban says his country will open its arms to west Europeans fleeing mass immigration and “the lords of globalist politics”.
“We shall let in true refugees”, Mr Orban told a cheering audience: “Germans, Dutch, French and Italians, terrified politicians and journalists who here in Hungary want to find the Europe they have lost in their homelands.”
The populist leader has served as the de facto leader of the central and eastern European countries which have resisted the open borders policies of the European Union (EU) and leading member-states in the west of the continent.
Globalist politicians, Mr Orban contended, are seeking to “sweep away a democracy of debate and replace it with a democracy of [political] correctness”, where “true power, decisions and influence [are] not held by elected governments, but [by] unelected global networks, media gurus and international organisations.”
He cited Britain’s vote to leave the European Union and Donald Trump’s election in the United States as episodes in a wider popular revolt against the “arrogance and condescension” of global elites by ordinary people whose “mouths had been gagged” for too long.
He claimed that history’s departure from “the course marked out for it” in 2016 “mocked the prophets of liberal politics”, who have responded as though “the people are a danger to democracy”.
“This is how the world’s most bizarre coalition of people smugglers, human rights activists and elite European politicians came into existence, specifically to deliberately bring millions of migrants into Europe,” he said….

Richie says
Eastern Europe will be the last part of Europe to fall. They seem to see the dangers of islam that the west is unwilling to see
David, Thailand says
They can thank the Soviet Union for that; having been through Communism, they can recognise a threat when it’s in their face.
The rest of Europe has become too “civilised” to survive a 21st century world.
A Harris USA says
David, how true… Wonder if I should start studying up on Hungarian.. If the libs manage to defeat Pres. Trumps sincere and hard efforts to protect us, may have to look at Hungary.. One think I am sure, my money will go father in my retirement that it does in California..and I will not have to wear a burka, and raise my ass in the air!!
Stan Lee says
A. Harris, I will suggest to you what I have suggested to my own brother, who each time he complains to me of CA, where he lives an expensive retirement, courtesy of very high CA taxes and other costs of living. Each time he practically swears he will leave, he tells me of his love for CA weather (LA suburbs) Maybe after another earthquake, he’ll make a firm decision, but I’ll keep praying for him to wise up. He’s been through three earthquakes that I can recall.
Frankly, I’m sticking with “flyover country”, shoveling a little snow beats earthquakes,water shortages, and Governor Moonbeam anytime. Especially for retirees, the way CA comes after retirement accounts. Of course, if one is almost flat broke,CA does have a generous welfare policy, so generous that it can be an impediment to being productive for certain recipients.
Sorry, I didn’t mean to comment because you may have a look at Hungary, it will never happen with me. I do love my country and there are parts of it that are greater than any places in this world.
nicu says
It is worse — they SEE IT , but don’t care !
Anne Smith says
The left wing schools and colleges (all the educational establishment, in fact) have brainwashed the younger people into wanting this to happen. If they do not want it then they are – by definition – racist and that would never do.
All the anti Trump marches and pro Muslim demos are the result of the left wing brainwashing now standard in all UK educational establishments.
Suebe says
It should be against the law to teach Islam in public schools, and to involve children in politics at all. I am sick and tired of the Liberals making democracy into socialism. You want something in life work for it, don’t expect others to support you. Get off your butts and work. You don’t work you shouldn’t eat. Sooner or later OP]s money will run out and KAOS will follow
Creole Gumbo says
You are absolutely correct Anne. Most Western Europeans have been totally brainwashed over the past 50 years at least. I have yet to meet one (in Europe) who is not convinced that this huge invasion of Africans and Middle Easterners is not a threat to them. (The one person who I have met migrated to the USA.)
My first trip to Europe was in 1984 and the streets of Paris were filled with Africans selling junk. There was trash everywhere and it was truly an eyesore. Whenever I asked a French person why their country is tolerating this they all proclaimed by rote “well what are you going to do? OR Well yes crime is up but it is not because of the Africans.” There seemed to be no desire to preserve their own culture. The rote replies were always the same like the reply in the movie Manchurian Candidate.
Carolyne says
ktulu–You might want to reconsider that “Environmental Studies” thing. For the most part it is a money-making scam by the left.
gravenimage says
Sorry to hear about this, ktulu.
mousey says
i don’t think eastern europe will fall at all. Sharia will never prevail on this planet.
Phil Copson says
Hasn’t it “prevailed” in about a third of countries worldwide so far and counting……?
Suebe says
Sharia law has already started in the US just look at Dearborn. You can’t be a Christian and walk the streets safely. From my understanding the Police are afraid to arrest anyone who attacks Christians, am I mistaken or is this true.
gravenimage says
Here’s an ugly incident in Dearborn, where police do nothing to protect the peaceful Christians from violent Muslims there:
DFD says
mousey
Western Europe wont fall either. France is since over a year in a state of “exceptional Emergency”, which is one down from martial law. Low level fighting in France is by now a near daily occurrence. Similar, though not as pronounced yet, in Sweden. In Germany it’s picking up, gathering pace.
If the upcoming elections in France and Germany don’t result in significant change, 2018 will result in the starting of civil war. Well, it has already, but very low key.
Any new gov in Europe that really wants to put a stop to the rot has to deal with Soros, his various NGOs, and those of other.
Orban made explicit reference thereto in his speech, see here for the full speech in English from the **Hungarian gov site**:
http://www.kormany.hu/en/the-prime-minister/news/this-year-we-must-defend-ourselves-against-five-major-attacks
He is putting his finger on one of THE main causes, the NGOs and Soros in particular. These are hardly ever mentioned on the various “anti jihad sites”. Oddly enough, Trump doesn’t mention these at all.
mousey says
DFD,
thanks for the link. I agree, western europe won’t fall either. I visualize the soros-university-globlist-media thing is like a damn trying to stem the truth. There are starting to be more and more small leaks. Bigger chunks of their cement is starting to crumble, and at some point, by the laws of physics, whooooosh, all the water will break free, people will get it, and they will fight. Unfortunate that there will have to be real fighting and dying.
mousey says
dam that is
Joe McDonald says
Msg to jonyBrown “convert to Islam” at G’town U;
don’t worry..,
It’s clear that you are a blatant homosexual,
Fill your boots, I’m not a gaybasher.
But you say you are also a devout muslim?
Real islamists will roof toss you!
Please explain yourself jennybrownnose….
roger woodhouse says
Britain is heading toward an unnoficial ‘apartheid’ similar to the one which evolved in South Africa due to different cultures choosing to live separately.It became law which then drew attention to itself.The socialists and the luvvies here in Britain fought long and hard for its downfall (rightly) but seem happy to watch the very same thing ‘evolving’under their noses but I suppose to them is called multi culturalism.
Christianblood says
Richie posted
(..Eastern Europe will be the last part of Europe to fall. They seem to see the dangers of islam that the west is unwilling to see..)
True.
Angemon says
Richie posted:
“Eastern Europe will be the last part of Europe to fall. ”
With the number of muslims in Russia and the way they’re expected to grow? They’re more likely to set the example for the rest, or at least fire the first shots.
http://www.ilanberman.com/19487/russia-fraught-demographic-future
And as far as I’m concerned, being the “last to fall” is not something to be proud of. “Not falling”, or “driving back”, on the other hand…
DFD says
I think those numbers are overly optimistic. Russia is claiming 140 million inhabitants. Now, go back to ww2, the Germans killed between 20 and 30 million. After the war the Russians didn’t have the cash for full population recovery, i.e., large families. Even today there are many Russian women looking for western husbands. Further, Stalin killed between 20 and 40 million, mostly Russians. His vengeance on the Cossacks was a nightmare. Conversely, poverty or shortage is no reason to reduce to multiplication among the Muslims, never was.
I estimated the number of Russians therefore to be in the region of approx 1210-130 million max. And about 20-40 million of these to be Muslims, that would, roughly , match – as a guess.
One needs to consider further that Moscow is Europe’s Muslim capital, it has Europe’s largest mosque, opened by Putin, Erdogan & Co., whilst on Fridays the streets are still jam packed with Muslim worshippers. He already conceded Chechenyia to be a Muslim republic with sharia law…
The notion of Russia being of help to WE Europe, as some believe, is therefore, IMO, completely wrong. If anything, it would be the other way round.
For, in any fight, the Russian (Slavic) Muslims can count on support from the Kazakhs, Uzbeks, Turkmens etc.
BTW, have a look at Orban’s full speech on the Hungarian gov website, in English, go to
http://www.kormany.hu/en/the-prime-minister/news/this-year-we-must-defend-ourselves-against-five-major-attacks
gravenimage says
Yes–Russia is in trouble from invading Muslims just as is Western Europe. Very dangerous times for all of us Infidels.
Buda says
Nope, we will not fall ever!
Steve K says
That’ why Orban is my favorite elected world leader. He has been an unapologetic opposer of Islam for a long time. What a great courageous man.
Rufolino says
Hear hear ! Courageous !
Creole Gumbo says
Hear, hear, hear!
Havoc says
Bravo, Mr. Orban!
Anon says
Time to learn Hungarian.
Salome says
Try DuoLingo. But be prepared for 18 noun cases.
Elizabeth Fahey says
Magyar is a very difficult language to learn….it is one of the rare bastard languages..neither Germanic roots, not Slovak or Latin based .,,I was blessed to have this as my second language being born to Hungarian American parents.
Ascender says
If you have children you may want to teach it to them, if you aren’t already. It sounds like Hungary may increasingly be a good destination for permanent residence. : )
ferenc petrulak says
I m Hungarian now leaving in Canada and yes language is hard to learn but not for children
Pong says
One of the languages I wouldn’t touch with a 10 feet pole. Not only it is one of the most difficult languages to learn, it is also a very unpleasant for a sensitive ear.
Buda says
It is a question of personal taste.
I find saxon languages wery rude and primitive, while we have several words for one thing not one word for many.
gravenimage says
Orban: Hungary will welcome European refugees fleeing multicultural West
………………….
This should embarrass Western Europeans, but it probably won’t.
DFD says
Hi Graven,
Not exactly hot news, I commented on that a couple of days ago, but never mind.
Here is the actual speech, Hungarian gov website, in English:
http://www.kormany.hu/en/the-prime-minister/news/this-year-we-must-defend-ourselves-against-five-major-attacks
He is also putting his finger on one of THE main causes, the NGOs and Soros in particular. These are hardly ever mentioned on the various anti jihad sites. Oddly enough, Trump doesn’t mention these at all.
Have a read
gravenimage says
Thank you for posting that link, DFD.
It is good to hear Mr. Orbán citing Brexit and the American election, as well. Good to finally see some push back in the civilized world. I also love his calling for children learning to be patriotic in school. Europeans and those of European cultural heritage have a lot to be proud of, but you would seldom know that in most education circles.
I have my fingers crossed for Germany in the election there later this year. If you can give us a sense of how things are going on the ground, I know many of us here would appreciated it.
Carolyne says
They will condem it because their goal is to Islamize the world.
epistemology says
The western European elites are hardly ever embarrassed, they seem to hate their own countries’ values, those values their ancestors fought for, it’s deplorable.
gravenimage says
Grimly true, epistemology. But I still believe there are many European patriots out there–I hope they finally stand up for their civilized societies!
moeped says
I swear I was thinking about the future and wondered if Hungary would be a good place to live…or Poland. Then Trump happened, which signifies a candle of hope for the West.
Nancy Assaf says
Moe, I hope as well that Trump will slow the pace toward the decline in our Republic. I also wonder whether Hungary can support jobs for those who flee to their Country. I mean, you just can’t pick up and walk into Hungary with nothing, can you? Is it like the United States, where you can just come over here and expect the Govt. to give you handouts?
Shmooviyet says
I would hope not, for the sake of their citizens.
It’s certainly worked *wonders* in the countries Orban is addressing (and US). /sarc
patriotic hungarian says
dude you can just come and expect us Hungarians to give you opportunity.. you have to make the best of your staying here.. also learn the language as fast as you could we don’t want to speak in english or german to you… everyone is welcome in Hungary but don’t forget you are just guests!
David, Thailand says
The EU is a dead man walking. Won’t be pretty when it implodes, but far prettier than if it doesn’t.
Buford says
Merkel Holland,Trudeau need to be ousted from office Tarred Feathered & forced to live in a Hellhole Country in the Middle East where these Muslim Monsters come from it is total Stupidity to not only accept them but also letting them establish Sharia Courts & allowing them to convert good country’s into 3rd world Demonic slums like the dumps they came from.
Anne Smith says
The Today programme this morning on Radio 4 in the UK was a paean of praise to the wonderful Trudeau, and also his father, Pierre Trudeau.
British people listening to the BBC get a very warped version of the world.
roger woodhouse says
I gave up on the BBC thirty years ago.Unfortunately most accept the blatant brainwashing without noticing it anymore.No need for subtleness now they are talking to the converted.
David, Thailand says
Getting your news from the BBC is like learning about WWII from Hogan’s Heroes.
Nancy Assaf says
Good comment, David! Thanks for my morning chuckle.
gravenimage says
Just vote them out.
no_one says
He may import some Arabic French, German, Dutch, not to mention Swedes. It would be hard to tell wjo is who. I hope he allows immigration from South Eastern Europe as well. The other option is Russia, although they have a lot of muzzies too.
nicu says
Let’s go to Hungary — beautiful country and you can live there with a small pension – not like here in germanistan !
Mo says
I have heard Hungarian is one of the more difficult languages to learn. Otherwise, hey, I’d consider it from the U.S.!
(And see? My first thought was that I’d have to learn the language so I could assimilate. Imagine that!)
DFD says
Hungarian and Finnish are closely related, and only semi-European. The reason being that after the defeat of the Huns (Attila is a fairly common name for boys in Hungary) the Huns and their followers were split into two groups, one was led north, to Finland. The remainder was permitted to stay with the Magyars – Thus: Hun + Magyar = Hungary.
One thing they both show, assimilation can and does work, with a heavy hand insisting.
Consider, both are exemplary European, anyone who doubts that, look at Orban! Or the Soldiers of Odin in Finland…
gravenimage says
True, Mo. I have no problem with those who learn their host country’s language slowly or have some troubles with it–just with those who don’t bother to learn it at all, and think that their hosts should bend over backwards to accommodate them, as Muslims do.
Joe McDonald says
In a gaybasher Islamic society (roof toss queers is the instructions of the queeran) blatant homosexuals like “dr” jonny brown would be dealt with, but the burqa is very useful to hide the fact that your “wife” is actually a 9yr old boy…
BLC says
Thank goodness. It is possible to flee the multicultural West!
Nigel GFF says
See also,
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2804456/inside-the-hungarian-village-that-is-trying-to-create-a-white-utopia-by-banning-all-muslim-culture/
One source for story – there are others.
The white utopian bit is an attempt to disparage the intentions of this mayor, but what can one expect.
simpleton1 says
Warning Warning.
I hope that there is good screening being done, and certain conditions to be understood and met, before residency, voting rights, citizenship and etc.
I meet many young Europeans, Germans, French. British etc. doing a “gap year” and to me it seems that over the last few decades that the “socialism” has been set deeper and deeper.
Many express a desire to emigrate back and settle, because things are more peaceful here.
They are full of “social justice”, “virtue signalling” idealism etc. and all seem to express a desire to settle, but they are full of that “snow flakery” concepts and “welcome immigrants” and “rights” and the government will sort things out, etc.
Sure there are some exceptions but they are few and far between, and even some of those good ones seem to have a taint from their schooling, but are amendable and open to rethink about things in their lives.
If there numbers coming in become too great, then the problems of West Europe will replicate in the East.
roger woodhouse says
The ‘cultural thrashing’of our society started 60 years ago via the BBC.First it was our Christian church they mocked followed of course by our other institutions that had stood this country in good stead for centuries.The ‘left’of course had no knowledge of Islam (how could they have?) but for them there is no turning back .They have driven themselves into a corner which is now well beyond their control.
Vlad Tepes says
Whole speech:
Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY) says
So Orban lets kafirs migrate from Western Europe to Eastern Europe, and Trump lets kafirs (persecuted Christians) migrate from the Muslim-majority world. Result: Muslims take over the western half of Europe, and complete their eradication of the kafir infestation in the Middle East. A triumph for Islam. Allahu akbar!
Paul says
Not really. Because once they have Western Europe, they will proceed to destroy it and turn against each other, as they always do. Perpetual misery and violence they bring to others and themselves.
DFD says
That’s not going to happen. Fighting has already started, low intensity, barely reported on. If the 20217 elections, France, Netherlands and Germany don’t result in drastic changes, it will blow in 2018. And perhaps in the US as well.
Then watch for the result….
gravenimage says
Mark, I’m hoping patriotic Western Europeans will be inspired by this, and stand up for their nations.
DFD says
For his full speech, in English, go to
http://www.kormany.hu/en/the-prime-minister/news/this-year-we-must-defend-ourselves-against-five-major-attacks
It’s the Hugarian gov website
Ascender says
Thanks for the link. Viktor Orban sounds like a very intelligent, wise, courageous man. He is a beacon of hope for Europe.
DFD says
If not our only hope….
John A. Marre says
A world leader who recognizes the treat posed by the arrival of Muslims.
Cameron says
Eastern Europeans have a history of invading barbarian hordes in massive numbers, whether they be the invading turks/ottomans who still control one of Europe’s greatest cities (Byzantium/Constantinople); Mongol khans, or earlier than that the Huns, Magyars, Gothic peoples, and numerous other peoples who emerged from the steppe regions sometimes known as the ‘womb of nations’. It wasn’t all that long ago that Ottoman armies were threatening to conquer all of Europe had Vienna fallen to them, until alliances of European armies drove them back.
DFD says
Neither Goths nor Magyars came from any Asian steppes. They are natives to Europe. The Goths are related to the Franks and the Teutons, the Magyars are western Slavs, with a good deal of Celtic and Roma DNA. later mixed with the Huns, hence ‘Hungary’.
Where did you get that idea from? That question is not meant as a put down or haughtily, I am just curious.
DFD says
TYPO:
**Roman** DNA, and NOT Roma. Sorry about that
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Nuruodo says
You know guys, the most annoying part is that so many people blatantly refuse to acknowledge the plain facts. I realize it is due to the brainwashing done to them by educational system, media and politicians but still It is unbelievable…
Worst of all, the apocalypse must happen, there is no way out of it, cards have been dealt and the game must be played out.
Shmooviyet says
Yes– it is a truly amazing, depressing thing to see what relying on three sources (BBC, CNN, NYT) for ‘the news’ has done to friends & family who used to think for themselves.
DFD says
Nuruodo
“…..there is no way out of it, cards have been dealt and the game must be played out.”
Indeed, however, the cards are still being dealt. The three main players are the 1) Internationalists/super or ultra capitalists. That is Soros and similar; 2) The ranges from the left to the ultra-left, that is socialists to anarchists. From Marx to School of Frankfurt, Kalergians and Hootonians. 3) The Muslims. An import, the ‘international proletariat’, which couldn’t be found in the West. Useful workers, consumers, etc. Have your pick, lots of variations in between. Unfortunately for them the Muslims aren’t that stupid, ~1,400 years of warfare in one form or another, but being religious they were considered to be stupid. And they learned ‘to play the game’.
Any defeat of the Muslims, which will happen, wont stop “the game”! Soros and Co will still be dealing cards, group “1)” and so will the Antifas, group “2)”.
Any return to normal democracy/republicanism will require **massive purges** after the defeat of the Muslims. And quite a few prior to that…
We live in interesting times, no?
Florida Jim says
Beware of any immigrants they cannot be trusted. Once here they begin to question your country and soon want to change everything an destroy you history. Islam is the worst.
gravenimage says
This is not true of all immigrants. Many of those who have immigrated to America have loved her and wanted nothing more than to become Americans, and have contributed a great deal here.
Of course, Muslims are a very different matter…
Lioness says
My parents escaped Eastern Europe in the 50’s because of Communism, but it looks like I may need to escape back to Eastern Europe from Canada, especially if the gov’t passes bill 103, the sharia blasphemy law.
Angemon says
There are German, Dutch, French and Italian muslims – if they take Orban’s words at face value and decided to move to Hungary to escape the “populist”, “right-wing” parties gaining momentum, he’ll have some crow to eat… Anyway, will I find in Hungary my language and culture, or even similar work and wages?If not, then thanks, but I’ll pass – I’d rather go down fighting.
DFD says
A lot of Germans take that view…. Though, there are already Germans in Hungary, settling. Mostly pensioners though, safer and their pension goes far in Hungary.
Lynn M says
In addition to having lived under Soviet occupation, Eastern Europeans have a history of attempted conquest by the Ottoman Empire. The Ottomans attacked Europe from the East conquering parts of Greece, Serbia and Hungary until they were defeated at the gates of Vienna in 1683. That defeat stopped the Ottoman advance into Europe. However, the Ottoman continued to occupy parts of Europe until the end of WWI. The stories of living under the Ottoman Turks remain in Eastern Europe.
billybob says
This man is a once in a generation true leader. I wish he was our leader here in Canada.
Tom W Harris says
Will this include Jews? Just asking.