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Robert Spencer: Answering an Islamic apologist (Part VI)

Feb 15, 2017 8:23 am By Robert Spencer

Continuing my responses to the disingenuous Islamic apologetics of Ahmadiyya leader Rizwan Khan in reply to Hugh Fitzgerald.

30. Why have there been more than 30,000 terrorist attacks by Muslims since 9/11/2001?
Ask those individuals. The primary victims of terrorist attacks are Muslims. Those terrorists are responsible for justifying their own actions. Islam is a religion. Religion is what is written in its scripture, which in Islam is the Quran and the authentic Ahadith that do not contradict the Quran.

Or maybe it is because of the thrice-repeated exhortation to kill unbelievers wherever they are found (Qur’an 2:191, 4:89, and 9:5).

31. Who was Kinana, and what did Muhammad order should be done with him?
Where is this ’order’ mentioned anywhere in the six authentic books of Hadith?

Here again, Rizwan Khan hopes that you do not know that there is authentic material (considered so by Muslim scholars) outside the canonical hadith collections.

32. Does Islam have a Golden Rule?
Yes.
“O ye who believe! be steadfast in the cause of Allah, bearing witness in equity; and let not a people’s enmity incite you to act otherwise than with justice. Be always just, that is nearer to righteousness. And fear Allah. Surely, Allah is aware of what you do.” (5:9)

Khan doesn’t mention that this doesn’t apply to unbelievers: “Muhammad is the apostle of Allah. Those who follow him are merciful to one another, ruthless to unbelievers” (Qur’an 48:29).

33. What is the doctrine of al-wala’ wal-bara’?
The Quran is clear in its commandment:
“Allah forbids you not, respecting those who have not fought against you on account of your religion, and who have not driven you forth from your homes, that you be kind to them and act equitably towards them; surely Allah loves those who are equitable.
Allah only forbids you, respecting those who have fought against you on account of your religion, and have driven you out of your homes, and have helped others in driving you out, that you make friends of them, and whosoever makes friends of them — it is these that are the transgressors.” (60:9-10)

Khan once again sidesteps the question. Al-wala wal-bara is hating what is evil and loving what is good, as in: “Let not the believers take disbelievers for their friends in preference to believers. Whoever does this has no connection with Allah unless you are guarding yourselves against them as a precaution. Allah bids you to beware of Himself. And to Allah is the journeying.” (Qur’an 3:28)

34. Why are there so many people in Pakistan named “Sayid”?
Ask those individuals. They are responsible for justifying their own actions. Islam is a religion. Religion is what is written in its scripture, which in Islam is the Quran and the authentic Ahadith that do not contradict the Quran.
The Quran teaches that true honor comes from one’s righteousness, not one’s tribe: “O mankind, We have created you from a male and a female; and We have made you into tribes and sub-tribes that you may recognize one another. Verily, the most honourable among you, in the sight of Allah, is he who is the most righteous among you. Surely, Allah is All-knowing, All-Aware.” (49:14)

Once again, Rizwan Khan is omitting some salient hadiths: “Arabs are the most noble people in lineage, the most prominent, and the best in deeds. We were the first to respond to the call of the Prophet. We are Allah’s helpers and the viziers of His Messenger. We fight people until they believe in Allah. He who believes in Allah and His Messenger has protected his life and possessions from us. As for one who disbelieves, we will fight him forever in Allah’s Cause. Killing him is a small matter to us.” (Tabari vol. IX, 69) And: “Narrated Jabir bin Samura: I heard the Prophet saying, “There will be twelve Muslim rulers (who will rule all the Islamic world).” He then said a sentence which I did not hear. My father said, “All of them (those rulers) will be from Quraish.” (Bukhari 9:89:329) The Quraish are the Arabs of Mecca, Muhammad’s tribe.

35. What kinds of music does Islam allow?
Sahih Bukhari narrates: “Narrated Aisha: Allah’s Messenger (ﷺ) came to my house while two girls were singing beside me the songs of Buath (a story about the war between the two tribes of the Ansar, the Khazraj and the Aus, before Islam). The Prophet lay down and turned his face to the other side. Then Abu Bakr came and spoke to me harshly saying, “Musical instruments of Satan near the Prophet ?” Allah’s Messenger (ﷺ) turned his face towards him and said, “Leave them.”” (https://sunnah.com/bukhari/13/2)

The hadith are full of contradictions. Hadith Qudsi 19:5: “The Prophet said that Allah commanded him to destroy all the musical instruments, idols, crosses and all the trappings of ignorance.” (The Hadith Qudsi, or holy Hadith, are those in which Muhammad transmits the words of Allah, although those words are not in the Qur’an.)

Muhammad also said:

(1) “Allah Mighty and Majestic sent me as a guidance and mercy to believers and commanded me to do away with musical instruments, flutes, strings, crucifixes, and the affair of the pre-Islamic period of ignorance.”

(2) “On the Day of Resurrection, Allah will pour molten lead into the ears of whoever sits listening to a songstress.”

(3) “Song makes hypocrisy grow in the heart as water does herbage.”

(4) “This community will experience the swallowing up of some people by the earth, metamorphosis of some into animals, and being rained upon with stones.” Someone asked, “When will this be, O Messenger of Allah?” and he said, “When songstresses and musical instruments appear and wine is held to be lawful.”

(5) “There will be peoples of my Community who will hold fornication, silk, wine, and musical instruments to be lawful ….” — ‘Umdat al-Salik r40.0

36. What is Dar al-Harb?
Where is the term “Dar al-Harb” mentioned anywhere in the Quran or sayings of Prophet Muhammad (sa)?

Irrelevant. Islamic theologians have been dividing the world into the house of Islam and the house of war since the Middle Ages. What does Khan have to offer to show that such a division is false? Nothing.

37. What is Dar al-Islam?
Where is the term “Dar al-Islam” mentioned anywhere in the Quran or sayings of Prophet Muhammad (sa)?

As above.

38. When does Jihad come to an end?
The Quran describes only one form of Jihad as the “great Jihad”, which is the Jihad of explaining the message of the Quran. The Quran says, “So obey not the disbelievers and strive against them by means of it (the Qur’an) a great striving.” (25:53) This Jihad never ends, in fact you are witnessing it right now while reading this response.

Indeed so, because Rizwan Khan’s purpose is clear: to foster ignorance and complacency among unbelievers so that the jihad can advance unimpeded and unopposed.

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  1. efoc says

    Feb 15, 2017 at 8:32 am

    Robert, I feel sorry that you needed to spend so much energy replying to this idiot. However, I’m sure most of us here appreciate it. Be sure now to have a couple of beers and relax!

  2. ermom says

    Feb 15, 2017 at 9:36 am

    Thanks, Robert for your commitment to honest SCHOLARLY information given to let us know what the TRUTH is about what the Qur’an and Sunnah of Mohammed, as well as the ‘considered authentic’ writings of Islamic scholars.

    Knowledge is power. Those who wish to impose a global caliphate with everyone on earth under Sharia, need us to be ignorant.

    Keep spreading the truth.

  3. exdemexlib says

    Feb 15, 2017 at 11:06 am

    Here is an interesting question to ask any of these apologists or people who say “ask me anything, I’m a Muslim” :

    What does Sharia or the Quran and the Haditg’s say about the following situation:

    A married woman is at home with her two babies, and is wearing a Hijab and Abaya. Her husband has gone to work, and her mother and aunt visit her, (also wearing Hijab and Abaya).

    Two Muslim men break into the house, tie up the mother and aunt, and take turns raping the married woman, in view of the mother and aunt.

    The men leave and the Mother, aunt, and the woman, raped claim that these two Muslim men raped her.

    What is the punishment for them, and what should happen to the raped woman?

  4. SK says

    Feb 15, 2017 at 1:16 pm

    It’s kinda sad that he refused to say when the FIGHTING jihad is supposed to end.

  5. Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY) says

    Feb 15, 2017 at 2:10 pm

    Neither Khan nor Spencer answer question #34: Why are there so many people in Pakistan named “Sayid”? Neither of them, in their answer, even refer to the name Sayid or explain what language it is and what, if anything, it means. If there is any expert in Pakistani onomastics out there, please speak up and answer this question.

    • Angemon says

      Feb 15, 2017 at 4:13 pm

      Hugh Fitzgerald did:

      https://www.jihadwatch.org/2017/02/hugh-fitzgerald-im-a-muslim-ask-me-anything-answers-30-38

      “Sayid” is an honorific meaning one is a descendant of the Prophet Muhammad through his grandsons. The adoption of this as part of one’s name, even in Pakistan, among those who live thousands of miles from Arabia, are clearly not Arabs, and for whom there exists not the slightest evidence that they are descendants of the Prophet’s tribe, is one more example of the desire of non-Arab Muslims to identify with the Arabs, going so far as to suggest an entirely factitious lineage connecting them to the Prophet.

  6. VRWC member77 says

    Feb 15, 2017 at 8:29 pm

    *********** Reliance of the Traveler aka Umdat al-Salik **********************

    WHAT 1S MEANT BY “ENEMY LANDS” (DAR AL-HARB)

    w43.5: “As for the fatwa’s claim that India is an enemy land (dar al-harb), it is not in its generality true. Because areas where Muslims reside and there is a remnant of Islam’s rules-even if this is limited to marriages and what pertains to them, for example-are considered Muslim lands. A Muslim land does not become an enemy land except under three conditions:

    (a) that the security of Muslims through their leader no longer exists and the security of non Muslims has taken its place;

    (b) that they have been surrounded on all sides such that it is impossible for the aid of Muslims to reach them;

    (c) and that not a single one of Islam’s rules remains therein (N: which effectively means that none of the lands that Islam has spread to and in which something of it remains can be considered an enemy land. As for other countries, enemy lands (dar al-harb, lit, “abode of war”) consist of those with whom the Muslim countries (dar al-Islam) are at a state of war) (n: in the light of which, it is clear that there is virtually no country on the face of the earth where a Muslim has an excuse to behave aifferently than he would in an Islamic country, whether in his commercial or other dealings).

  7. underbed cat says

    Feb 16, 2017 at 1:17 am

    Muslims are very good at explaining or distracting awa ythe meaning of uncomfortable verses from the Quran. So good that it may make one wonder, do they take classes to get these responses when an informed person brings up the details on the commands and they answer so serenely ..it is done without a hint of discomfort. That self control is impressive. Very cohesive display. Frustrating but serene.

    • Bozo's gall bladder says

      Feb 16, 2017 at 10:32 am

      This reminds me of Amway. Amway is a very large multi-level marketing scheme. Very few people make money actually *selling* Amway products. Where they make their money is recruiting other people to buy overpriced books and recordings and seminars that never actually lead to turning a profit, and who recruit other people to do the same thing.

      in my neck of the woods, people got sick and tired of being hit on by Amway sales people trying to recruit you as a distributor. The minute your heard the word “Amway,” you would try to walk the other way.

      So, Amway cooked up a way to prevent that from happening. Since salespeople could never use the word “Amway”_without turning off their friends and neighbors off, they started calling it “Grand Diamond.”

      What a bunch of malarkey.

      This sounds like what these Muslim guys are doing. They’re trying to cover up the truth by diverting your atention from it.

      If they clearly and cleanly say what they’re up to, you’ll walk away. They know this, of course.

  8. Dacritic says

    Feb 17, 2017 at 3:42 am

    “Ask those individuals.” Seems to be the default mode answer given by this fellow. Because he knows that we’re not going to take the trouble of really asking those “individuals”. But sometimes those “individuals” would themselves let us know that their actions are sanctioned by Islam… like the reasons provided by the Islamic State on why they attack and kill.

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