A few days ago, I correctly pointed out that by far the most important paragraph of the President Trump’s Executive Order on immigration was being widely overlooked by the media. While they carried on their endless discussion of the completely tangential list of exactly which countries citizens had their nonexistent “right” to enter the United States curtailed, the administration continued to pursue its clearly defined purpose. That purpose is to focus the full resources of the federal government on the only ideology that threatens the republic at this time.
From Reuters:
Exclusive: Trump to focus counter-extremism program solely on Islam – sources
The Trump administration wants to revamp and rename a U.S. government program designed to counter all violent ideologies so that it focuses solely on Islamist extremism, five people briefed on the matter told Reuters.
The program, “Countering Violent Extremism,” or CVE, would be changed to “Countering Islamic Extremism” or “Countering Radical Islamic Extremism,” the sources said, and would no longer target groups such as white supremacists who have also carried out bombings and shootings in the United States.
Such a change would reflect Trump’s election campaign rhetoric and criticism of former President Barack Obama for being weak in the fight against Islamic State and for refusing to use the phrase “radical Islam” in describing it. Islamic State has claimed responsibility for attacks on civilians in several countries.
The Reuters piece goes on to say that the Trump administration is now looking carefully at all grant allocations, the precise nature of the recipients of taxpayer money, and resource usage. The implication is that only Islam will be considered a threat, and whatever resources are currently directed at other forms of “extremism,” such as “Life After Hate which rehabilitates former neo-Nazis and other domestic extremists,” will be removed. No doubt there are threats (even deadly, murderous ones) from non-Islamic terrorists, but they are for criminal agencies to work on; they don’t represent a credible threat to overturn the entire US Constitution. That is what makes Islam and jihad unique.
None of this will come as a surprise to those of you who read the guiding paragraph of the executive order, which I wrote about. The entire thrust of this administration is to tackle Islam as an political ideology incompatibl with the Constitution.
At the same time, CNN has dug up an interview Steve Bannon gave in 2010 on the late Avi Davis’s podcast, in which:
Bannon mocked Bush for proclaiming “Islam is a religion of peace.”
“Islam is not a religion of peace. Islam is a religion of submission. Islam means submission.”
https://soundcloud.com/user-212797670/december-20101
One small step for Jihad Watch readers, one giant leap for mankind, when the direction of the new administration is to replace the lie of “Islam is a religion of peace” with a more realistic assessment of jihadi goals and methods. Especially those methods such as indoctrination and infiltration, which the Muslim Brotherhood and its front organisations have been employing so successfully for years.
This Bannon quote on Islam came up in a White House Press briefing.
Sean Spicer deflected the question; importantly, he did not counter, criticise or address what the journalist reported that Bannon had said; nor did he say that Trump would distance himself from it.
Once again, the new administration is going in a very interesting direction, and the old media is unable to understand what has changed. They’re not ready to come to terms with the complete removal of the “Islam is a religion of peace” doctrine and its replacement with treating Islam and jihad in the West as a hostile political movement.
One final piece to bring back. At times on the campaign trail, before he switched almost exclusively to teleprompter speeches, Donald Trump recited a poem about a snake. He made it very clear in the introduction that he was talking about Islam. Not just immigration. Again, that was largely overlooked by the media.
The press is attacking Bannon and Trump for holding these views. They’re going to try to coerce either of them back to the politically correct “Islam is a religion of peace” doctrine. As you Americans are fond of saying, good luck with that.

Richard Paulsen says
Terrible to think of that Christianity is decreasing in numbers in U.S.A. and Europe, while islam is growing steadily.
In U.S.A. Islam will become the second religion after Christianity and more than Jewish. When in majority?
There are more muslims in Christian countries than Christians and Jewish in islamic. There are only 100.000 Christians in Turkey for example. Forbidden to be anything else than a muslim in Afghanistan.
More must realize what is going on.
Somebody says
Hello Richard, only 30 % real muslims enough to take over your country. Because they are like LEGO the children game, they get united and start their classical unstoppable demands. They are very good in organizing against non believers of islam.
On the other hand today Mike Pompeo came to Turkey and held meetings with Erdogan, Turkish secret service and the head of our army…
Politicians are consuming us, we need to make Turkey secular again no need for political games. We want to see good network of anti-jihad not political belly dancing.
Actually I don’t think we will see any development in our life times.. In reality I believe nobody wants to fight against islam.
common sense says
As long as other countries want something from middle east OPEC nations Muslims are going to spray their Shariah flex and seal all over us as soon as we touch them. We failed to recognize that one is fighting for air the moment we touch Islamic nations.
Richard Paulsen says
The majorities in most european counries are against islam. Still the parties they are voting for are for islamic expansion.
Hard to understand why it is like that and how to change. Lots working hard to change. Hope they will be stronger and enough to stop the negative trend.
dfd says
Since the rise of the 68ers/Frankfurters the western press is running one anti Christian article after another, infrequently interspersed with a pro Christian one so as to claim “impartiality”. Infrequently, 30:1, 40:1, or worse, even more infrequent?
And the have “marched into the institutions”, with the press, political parties and the judiciary being their prime aims. Well, they kept their ‘promise’.
And that press, from Sydney across the US to Berlin, will keep on hammering at all and everything that is not with the (far) left.
Have you not noticed their common song? “Vote for so-and-so or such-and-such to fight the right!” Hardly anything about the voters concerns, barely a word lost. It’s about ‘fight the right’, Antifa, and everyone’s a fascist who’s not on their side…
Trump, if he can hold the course, at least partially, is our first victory! And by “our” I mean **US**, **the people**. And the first time in over a decade we can hve some hope….
Carolyne says
Probably the reason is that while the majority are against unfettered immigration, they fail to vote so the leftists win. It’ usually like that in the US too.
A Harris USA says
Somebody, the fact starts with their endless demands starts with demanding they be LET IN!! Just check who is behind the street apes rioting in the name of “immigration”.. It is amazing how stupid the foolish left is.. Blind to the fact that demand number 1 is DEMAND IN THE DOOR..Then the rest is already done!!
Rob Porter says
Somebody, you’ve got it wrong, I want the U.S. and the West to fight Islam and finally utterly crush it for all of its cruelty and disgusting rottenness. Islam needs to be crushed in order to bring at least some peace to the world. I couldn’t care less if they keep fight each other as did Iraq and Iran. I’m just heartily sick of Islam’s vile ways and the terrible people it make of its satanic believers. Allah is nothing more than a criminal god and Mohammad was little more than a piece of pigs dung – metaphorically speaking!
no_one says
I know a country where 80% say they are Christian, however only 2 to 5 % go to church and they are being ridiculed by the rest. But this is what Christ said. Few people will find the narrow path.
Somebody says
I think globalisation had the most negative impact on Christianity, and on the contrary, provided islam a freedom to spread.
no_one says
Christianity is not easy to follow. We are supposed to love the enemies, forgive people, never judge, etc. Islam is easy to follow if someone is proud and wants to think he/she is among the best people on Earth. These will be surprised one day.
somehistory says
Yep, He said, “Broad is the gate and spacious is the road leading to destruction and many are the ones going in through it…” (Matthew 7)
no_one says
Thank you for the quote. I’ve read the Gospel, but have a hard time finding the right quote.
somehistory says
You are more than welcome. The part you were referencing was, “Narrow is the gate, and cramped the road leading into life, and few are the ones finding it. (Matthew…also chapter 7)
If you know a few words of a Scripture, you can type it into Google or another search engine, and usually find several translations. If you aren’t sure of the exact words, it can still work if the idea of the verse is there as many translations are out there with really simple language.
Paul says
I doubt Christianity really means love your enemies who are trying to kill you. It’s this brand of wimpy Christianity that leftists love to quote and claim to follow.
abad says
“I doubt Christianity really means love your enemies who are trying to kill you. It’s this brand of wimpy Christianity that leftists love to quote and claim to follow.”
Bingo.
The leftists always try to put a liberal spin on what is in the New Testament. It just proves they cannot understand the Bible.
Catherine says
You love your enemies in a different way than you love your friends. You pray for your enemies’ salvation and treat them with decency when possible, but if they want to kill you, you do what is necessary to save your life, whether it be excluding them, or self-defense.
The Christian way is not always cut & dried. We have free will and the freedom to fail, and ultimately to learn that the narrow way really gives the most freedom. We are not robots or slaves.
friend of GOD says
Just as in nehemiahs day when the BIBLE TORAH was hidden in the temple,so as it is today.make no mistake those so called believers were canaanite been the priest were hiding the truth,same today in most leaders of churches,,,,false doctrine that has led us into this confusion…..open your BIBLES read,unite GOD will intervene,,,,,,,,,,,many times HE has,,,,,FAITH,,,you will see,,,,,,,unite in JESUS CHRIST,,,get the real truth not from those who have their own desire to teach for other reasons than to serve GOD.
Rufolino says
You equate “the narrow path” with going to church. There are some real Christians who do not enter a church and have reasons for not doing so.
Debi Brand says
“You equate ‘the narrow path’ with going to church. There are some real Christians who do not enter a church and have reasons for not doing so.”
Indeed.
chrissie01 says
“Terrible to think of that Christianity is decreasing in numbers in U.S.A. and Europe, while islam is growing steadily.”
What to do?
Challenge the Christian dogma of universal support to all.
There was a sob story on the media of a little Arab girl that needed a heart operation.
Well. Sorry to hear the girl is ill. However:
Arabs are so very proud of themselves. Consequently, let them handle their medical cases without the support of the kuffar. Don’t share your knowledge freely. Sell it dearly and in increments. Demand high payment and put forth conditions. For starters.
Let’s see who will last.
Set some boundaries at last. This sellout in the name of Christianity has to stop. It is nothing but social kitsch.
Dawn says
They say Christianity decreasing not sure how true that is in some countrys probably not able to live it out and so therefore we don’t know the truth
David Scoltock says
Meh, I’m a pagan, I don’t care about any of the monotheistic faiths decreasing to be honest.
Phil Copson says
You should; frightening people out of expressing their faith is a step to Islamisation.
gravenimage says
You should care if Muslims are increasing. They are not just targeting Jews and Christians, but also *all* Infidels. There are specific exhortations in the Qur’an and Hadith to slaughter Pagans.
Mark Swan says
There are such “social values” today in Europe, America, and Australia only because during those thousand years the Christians of Europe possessed the warlike power to do what the Christians of Asia and Africa had failed to do – that is, to beat back the Moslem invader.
– Theodore “Teddy” Roosevelt
26th President of the United States
linnte says
I used to be a pagan. Celtic Druidism. It is my prayer that all Pagans realise that Islam has no second plan for Pagans or Atheists. You just get death; no tax and no protection. I am fully aware of how the Church treated Pagans in the past all over the world. It is a new era, and Pagans need to understand that Islam will not tolerate them one iota. And the difference between Christianity and Islam is a full180. All spiritual beliefs MUST act in unison against Islam. If we are divided, which is what Islam COUNTS on, we will fall.
So I am saying you as a Pagan SHOULD care about other monotheist religions besides Islam. And every effort must be made to work together with all people, religious or not. This is for our children and their future. It’s my view that we can either be pro Islam, or pro LIFE. You pick.
abad says
Ah yes the sin of pride.
Combine the sin of pride along with lack of Original Sin which does not exist in Islam and you have a recipe for disaster.
Carolyne says
On the other hand, don’t sell it at all. Deny them advanced civilizational progress.
Savvy Kafir says
I’d like to believe that this bold new approach will include resistance to stealth jihadis and the Demographic Jihad, not just violent jihadis. Resistance to “Islam” — full stop — would be ideal.
Somebody says
Yes, islam is islam, like Erdogan said loudly.
Carolyne says
It appears that the courts will not allow opposition to the takeover by Islam.
mortimer says
Mr. President, please hire ROBERT SPENCER IMMEDIATELY.
Seabird says
The Director of Homeland Security job has been filled but the Ambassador position to S.Arabia is still open.
common sense says
This administration is just getting the board under the tire for some traction right now.
Travel restrictions orders are going to end up in the supreme court which should never happen.
Trump could proclaim the he us enstating Obama as the assistant to the POTUS on immigration and the left would howl and screech just because it would be Trumps idea.
The party of the working man died quite some time ago.
somehistory says
It takes logic, reason, truth and common sense. When the guys in Texas go out for their rattlesnake roundup, they look for rattlesnakes, not king snakes, or even king cobras.
When islam is the cause of terrorism, it only makes good sense and looking for the truth to recognize that islam is what should be targeted for the murders and other atrocities…for the terror attacks.
American Pragmatism says
American Pragmatism applauds this brave act and recommends that Donald J. Trump deploy Threat Detect™’s Threat Assess™ solution to help in his noble fight.
Somebody says
Right now Erdogan, Pompeo and Hakan fidan (head of Turkish secret service) are having a meeting in Turkey.
I’ve started to believe it’s time to support islam, because in reality everybody supports islam…
What a big disappointment for Turkish Seculars… I hope Armageddon starts in 2017…
gravenimage says
Somebody wrote:
I’ve started to believe it’s time to support islam, because in reality everybody supports islam…
What a big disappointment for Turkish Seculars… I hope Armageddon starts in 2017…
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What rot. No person of character supports evil. Stand up for your values–assuming you have values to defend.
gravenimage says
By the way, your calling for surrender on a thread where others *are* standing up against Islam is especially appalling.
Lesley says
Agreed, gravenimage
Somebody says
Today after talking to “Mike POMPEO” Erdogan has just signed the referendum decision.. Do you still think US is not behind Erdogan ?? I am just trying to draw attention on the matter of islamisation program by establishment (including cia) is continuing. Whether you like it or not. They are fooling everybody.
It is time to speak the truth, even it hurts so much..
Westman says
Submit? Let’s leave that to the EU.
There are common principles upon which we can unite in opposing Islamization – freedom and patriotism – neither of which is supported by Islam.
It’s time to stop worrying about who is or isn’t Christian, but rather, realize all patriots have some common principles that are adequate to resist Islam – and it will take all of them. Sadly, those principles are completely lacking in uber-liberal-globalists who are seditionists in their own country.
Champ says
Somebody wrote:
“I’ve started to believe it’s time to support islam, because in reality everybody supports islam…”
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Get lost sicko. Your comment is evil and a disgrace to freedom lovers and to those who’ve given their lives fighting for such freedoms.
Champ says
And this from Somebody:
“What a big disappointment for Turkish Seculars… I hope Armageddon starts in 2017…”
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Why don’t you move to the middle east so you can be front & center when the show begins. Hey I’ll even buy you a one-way ticket, you evil perp.
Guest says
This would be worrying, however there’s something the leftists ignore. All terrorists are Muslims. Trump is focusing on Islamic Jihad because right now that is the only terror problem
Champ says
“One small step for Jihad Watch readers, one giant leap for mankind, when the direction of the new administration is to replace the lie of “Islam is a religion of peace” with a more realistic assessment of jihadi goals and methods.” — Brian Thomas
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Indeed–President Trump is demonstrating *true* leadership for a much needed ..Change!
gravenimage says
🙂
friend of GOD says
The agenda for evil is every person that comes to our CHRISTIAN NATION gets to vote against us . just a matter of time Canada has been given over to be out numbered in the vote. This is the strategy of evil.
Angemon says
Eh. Ain’t that the truth… 🙂
underbed cat says
I disagree with Bannon, respectfully, Bush did not know Islamic doctrine, I doubt he read the Koran he was advised by the muslim brotherhood(diversity) and was decieved. He had non-muslim experts on Islam who were over powered by the established mb,..who talked peaceful, tolerant and indignant about 9/11, he I believe just thought he was going to the source, but the source was practicing sharia, not giving correct informationin order to protect Islam. I do not think it was “narcissim”, or “country clubing, the MB are professional at subversion, in my opinion and of course Sauds had money to throw out to make sure the subversion worked, since they had already established many front groups with propaganda to say just the opposite.
underbed cat says
I agree with everything else Mr. Bannon says, about Islam, he is an expert…just that Bush was decieved by a overwhelming force and skill of the followers of Islam to dominate the information and it is deception.
PRCS says
Gotta wonder why his staff didn’t advise him BEFORE making those idiotic statements.
underbed cat says
Bush had experts who advised him, many were mb or leftist, and the experts that studied the doctrine were silenced.I have not a clue other than he was a deceived, in reality many people can’t beleive that is could exist in the modern world….the Koran is not the Bible after you read it, you know that they are commands to use terror to get Christians to submit, or pay jyizia. I know some very smart people who have not read the koran and go with the idea that is promoted, that it is peaceful….it is really the seeds of terror. But we know that here.
gravenimage says
Bush’s advisers weren’t any more knowledgeable than he was–that was the problem.
PRCS says
With rare exception, nothing has changed.
Catherine says
Where is Charles Martel when we need him?
Tony says
The Good News is and it is the only thing which gives me hope and keeps me sane in the face of this prevailing madness( Islam)All of this has not taken God by surprise and He will have the last word!
I wish your president well and pray for him…Mr Bannon also!!
PRCS says
Does this mean we won’t be spending much time worrying about Basque separatists, now?
JIMJFOX says
WHY must Christianity be brought up when Islam is the issue? Modern Christianity is no bulwark against Islam, in fact most if not all Christian ‘leaders’ promote Islam- the current dhimmi foolin the Vatican being the prime example. Religious people are all too ready to overlook the fact that organised religion is big business, mainly among the uneducated tools in N. Africa, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Somalia, Sudan, etc, etc.
Lion of Judah's Cub says
The greatest bulwark against Islam was the Catholic Church throughout history. More recently the Church has been infiltrated by satanists, globalists and communists – the same ones behind child sexual abuse – who seek to destroy the Church from within and Christian society from without (Islam).
gravenimage says
Mostly, the Catholic Church–and many other denominations–have been invaded by “political correctness”, which does not want to believe that Islam is a threat.
PRCS says
“They’re not ready to come to terms with the complete removal of the “Islam is a religion of peace doctrine”
Nor, per that White House breifing, are Spicer and Trump:
“He understands that it’s not a religious problem, it’s a radicalization problem, that there’s a big difference between Islam, the religion, and the radical Islamic terrorists that come here to do us harm.
More bullshit.
Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss.
Lion of Judah's Cub says
President Trump and Spicer have to speak like that in diplomatic terms in order to keep allies in the islamic world. I may not approve but it is likely a first necessary step.
PRCS says
To appease our Muslims allies, Spicer needed to vomit an outright lie?
Demsci says
PRCS is quite right, but you rightly point out how difficult it is to operate in the real world.
Yes, there are allied Muslim governments. And how far can the Trumpteam go? Your argument is also used against Steve Bannon in that he with his broad stereotyping is alienating those allied or now neutral Muslims.
Let the Trumpteam experiment in this Islam and Democracy issue! It’s called Iterative thinking and it’s strength is that a team experiments and learns all it can from all the feedback as soon as possible and then tries something slightly different or new until they get it right.
It is said dat big comprehensive plans nearly Always fail. And that small experiments, small failings, then the resulting learnings, pave the way forward.
gravenimage says
The End of Countering Violent Extremism, the Start of Countering Islamic Jihad
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Yes–a step closer to the truth, and it is very welcome. Of course, this is not “radical”, but just mainstream Islam.
Larry A. Singleton says
Maybe I posted too much.
RULES OF ENGAGEMENT 11-20-15
Part I
Study the “Rules of Engagement” and the fact that in Iraq and Afghanistan we left a sharia law totally intact that have been responsible for the mass murder of our troops and the troops of our allies like those from Australia and compare this with how we addressed Japanese Shintoism and German Nazism after WWII:
Check out Obama’s “COIN (counterinsurgency) Strategy”, a fraud perpetrated on the American people, that was little more than “a post-modern form of human sacrifice” in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Barbarians Inside the Gates: Navy Secretary Ray Mabus and the Cultural Evisceration of the U.S. Navy by Craig Luther.
Our Estranged Generals: Our Generals Are Not on the Same Page as the Rest of Us. In Fact, They’re Not Even Reading From the Same Book by Caroline Glick.—-This is an article about the General Staff of Israel’s Defense Forces. But you could practically superimpose every fact in this article on what is happening in our military.
This liberal, leftist, Commie, Christian hating multicultural suicide is now taking over our military. Our Sailors in fully armored and equipped gun boats were literally put on their knees by a couple of Iranian “fishing boats” and paraded and humiliated before the world. This administration actually had ROTC cadets march in red high heels to “feel what it’s like to be a woman”!!! Making soldiers wear lactation devices and lecturing them on “white privilege!!!!
Russian Jets did barrel roles a stone throw from our war ships showing exactly how we have lost all credibility in the eyes of the world. Completely INSANE!
NO2PC: Former Drill Sgt Unleashes HELL On Obama Admin.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sc7wrMR9F8k
Active duty military members can’t say this or they risk getting into trouble, so I’ll say it for them because I will use this platform to bring to light the issues our men and women face that are doing their best to train and lead while having their hands tied behind their backs. I’m ashamed for what our military is turning into. The decaying of the military from the “give everyone a trophy” leaders that are fucking everything up, and creating an environment of weakness and softness. IT’S THE MILITARY! WE ARE NOT THE F**KING BOY SCOUTS! OUR JOB IS TO KILL AND TRAIN SOLDIERS TO KILL.
How political correctness may hamper the fight against the Islamic State: Absolutely jaw-dropping.
https://www.facebook.com/theblaze/videos/1018983194805687/?fref=nf
Sayonara Shari’a: Japanese Lessons, Lost? By Andrew Bostom.
“Gifts from Heaven”: The Meaning of the American Victory over Japan, 1945 by John David Lewis | Foreign Policy & Defense, History
https://www.theobjectivestandard.com/issues/2007-winter/american-victory-over-japan-1945/
Read this article for parallels on Afghanistan and Iraq and with how we’re fighting terrorism today. We are totally failing when it comes to identifying the enemy, stating our objectives and destroying our enemies. We should do with Islam the same as we did with the other state religion in Japan; Shinto. This was a policy of NO negotiation. Our policy was “surrender or die”. There status as a “defeated enemy and the democratic reforms were hammered into the heads of every man, woman and child in Japan.
The U.S. Occupation of Japan—four Lessons for Iraq by Jean-Pierre Lehmann 1-28-04 What lessons for Iraq can the Bush Administration take away from the post-World War II occupation of Japan
Poster on Japan’s Policies regarding Islam and Muslims (Facebook)
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=190665434602056&set=gm.1515906135391074&type=3
A Kamikaze Who Lived to Tell the Tale
http://www.historynet.com/a-kamikaze-who-lived-to-tell-the-tale.htm
But the fact that he did survive meant that he was able to correct the central myth of the kamikaze—that these young pilots all went to their deaths willingly, enthused by the Samurai spirit.
The Glazov Gang: How “Rules of Engagement” Get U.S. Soldiers Killed 11-16-15
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2015/11/the-glazov-gang-how-rules-of-engagement-get-u-s-soldiers-killed
Truth in Media: Origin of ISIS (Hint: The U.S. Government) (You Tube)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMlck4IZXsk
US Military Pilots Get Fed Up, Say Exactly What Obama Didn’t Want Them To
http://www.westernjournalism.com/us-military-pilots-get-fed-up-boldly-say-exactly-what-obama-didnt-want-them-to/
“There were times I had groups of ISIS fighters in my sights, but couldn’t get clearance to engage,” a Navy F-18 pilot tells Fox News in a report published Thursday. “They probably killed innocent people and spread evil because of my inability to kill them. It was frustrating.”
Shades of Vietnam: Spike in U.S. troop deaths tied to stricter rules of engagement by Rowan Scarborough 12-5-13 (The Washington Times)
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/dec/5/increase-in-battlefield-deaths-linked-to-new-rules/?page=all
Rules of Engagement getting Our soldiers killed at alarming rate by Doug Book 10-18-12 (Western Journalism)
http://www.westernjournalism.com/rules-of-engagement-getting-our-soldiers-killed-at-alarming-rate/
“Tragically, the unwillingness of today’s American leaders to decisively win a war is responsible for the needless—indeed, criminally callous and cynically disregarded—death of countless American soldiers.”
The rules murdering our troops by Ralph Peters 9-24-09 (New York Post)
http://nypost.com/2009/09/24/the-rules-murdering-our-troops/
“Mission-focused, but morally oblivious, Gen. Stan McChrystal conformed to the Obama Way of War by imposing rules of engagement that could have been concocted by Code Pink…The next time you read about the death of a soldier or Marine in Afghanistan, don’t just blame the Taliban. Blame the generals and politicians who sent them to war, then took away their weapons”
Demsci says
The leftists, the MSM, and many people still also have this huge objection that “we should not paint all Muslims with the same brush”-thing, which they say ad nauseam.
But as counterjihadists emphasize the meaning of Islam and why it is problematic and hostile, they of course regard EVERY MUSLIM as following this ideology and in reality and potentially influenced heavily by it and loyal to it and all ummah-members.
And THIS is then the basis for the accusation of political corrects to counterjihadists that they “paint all Muslims with the same brush”).
And the MSM allege that it plays in the hands of Al-Baghdadi, ISIS, the so called “fringe-extremists” that people like Steve Bannon declare that “The West is at war with Islam”. What a strawman argument!!!
Bannon is NOT saying the West is agressive, in a violent way to all Islam! But only that the political Islamic ideology, which is an integral part of the whole, that THAT is incompatible with our own ideology and principles, and that it really is either inciting agression against the West or is interpreted by hundreds of Millions as doing that.
that last notion, that the texts of Islam are hopelessly unclear and Multi-interpretable on very important principles in them, that gives authorities a chance to STILL differentiate between Muslims, which is uncompromisingly demanded by the Poltical Corrects.
Because if Interpretation is the determining factor, in the absence of clarity in Quran-Hadiths-Sira, then it becomes possible for counterjihadists to argue that yes, there are “de facto peaceful DEMOCRATIC MUSLIMS”. Not because Islam is a religion of peace,
BUT because it is a muddled religion, not updated for a 1000 years in it’s texts and for centuries not updated with it’s theological explanations, Tafsirs (In the 18 th century the gates of Ijtihad were closed, says Tom Holland).
This then leaves room for both the ISIS interpretation and the so-called moderate interpretation.
But there is not a Muslim, it seems, who is prepared to admit this unclarity, Multi-interpretability of Quran-Hadiths-Sira-Tafsir. But what stake do leftists and political corrects and fence sitting neutrals have in preserving the notion that “the Quran-Hadiths-Sira are totally clear?
Demsci says
After all, after all this contradictory evidence, is it still the implicit position of the political corrects that Muslims are ïnnocent until proven guilty
regarding harboring anti-democratic and anti western ideas, ambitions, and being more loyal to known enemies than to democratic nations?
Or is the PC position that it is perfectly OK to have a lot of people hostile to democratic system and nations?
And the PC’s conjure up the stark dichotomy that “we either save the endangered and bereaved refugees” or we abandone them to their fate, like the Jews in 1939 were abandoned to their faith by Western nations.
But isn’t it perfectly reasonable to “save” and “incorporate” endangered, desperate refugees, ONLY ON REASONABLE CONDITIONS,
on pain of deportation, which is non-immigration in the long term only, after reasonable trial, when the conditions are violated? It seems to me that the “liberal position” that our countries have to save refugees UNCONDITIONALLY that is the unreasonable one.
Allan Mandrowski says
Robert. What is your view on excluding Saudi Arabia from the banned countries, but including Iran. Even though, Saudi Arabia was the main provider and Wahhabism the main ideology responsible for the 9/11 terror attacks. Iranian citizens as far as I am aware have carried out 0 terror attacks against the USA or on European soil.
Somebody says
There is no fight against islam, there is only politics. If they wanted to do something against islam, they should have bombed saudi satanists yesterday. Saudi is where everything started but they are the best friends of US.
Until US learns to treat sunni and shia as equally dangerous, no one will believe them as anti jihad..
Allan Mandrowski says
This is why I pose this question to Robert. Would like to hear his view on this.
Demsci says
it seems, to Judge from that favoriet quote you showed, that the Trumpteam has a moral or culture absolutist attitude. That is that they do Judge their own “culture” as superior to other “cultures”.
This was the position of now retired successful Dutch Politician Frits Bolkestein and certainly that of Geert Wilders. The only question is whether they name as their favorite culture: the pre-Islamic “Judeo Christian culture” or the post-Islamic “enlightenment/ democratic one. That last one I think has more chance to beat Islam after comparison and good strategy because Islam is quite used and successful in fighting “Judeo Christians ” As the Muslims are, to a man, moral/ culture absolutists.
Whereas most of the members of MSM, Leftists, PC’s are or seem to be “moral or culture relativists”, meaning they Judge all mainstream cultures as morally culturally equivalent.
It sometimes seem to me that, due to the lack of necessity of comparison, some Moral relativists do not even care for: A. The idea to belong to a certain culture or B. To know what the essential Tenets of their own culture are.
But I wish they made their position on this very clear when they criticize the Trump team.
Phil Copson says
Regarding Western civilisation as superior to others and wishing to preserve it, doesn’t make Geert Wilders – or anyone else – “a supremacist”; it means that you are rational human-being who appreciates the value of the society you live in.
I don’t notice any enthusiasm on the part of the “cultural-equivalency / moral-relativism” lobby, actually to give up living an easy life on other people’s money, and actually go and live in any of these cultures that they tell the rest of us are as good as, if not better, than ours.
Gordon Miller says
Trump must emphasize that Islam is more so an ideology than a religion, and at its core mandates that its followers carry out behaviors which pose an existential threat to the safety and security of the American people.
PRCS says
And emphasize that Islam’s written ideology is neither negated by the failure of individual Muslims to comply nor “perverted” by those who do
friend of GOD says
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Demsci says
But when he does the obnoxious left and co. Will take that judgement of Islam as a sweeping condemnation of all Muslims. As it is obvious that EVERY Muslim is of necessity following the holy texts and ideology of Islam.
The concepts we may utilize could be: – Interpretation is key, not belonging to the ideology alone.
And; We hate the sin (Islam) but love the sinners (Muslims).
Robert Corrow says
Yes, the obnoxious left will do that until politicians and “journalists” make a clear distinction between Islam–the ideology–and the ummah.
A suggestion for them: recite 5:38 from the Qur’an CAIR provides (which, rather than denouncing the amputation of thieves’ hands makes very clear why, when, for what reason, to and by whom it MUST be done) and challenge ‘our” Muslims with that.
But the excuses must end.