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Toronto Muslim speaker: “We must celebrate our way of life…until their way of life dissipates under our feet”

Feb 6, 2017 6:24 pm By Robert Spencer

Canada’s Zero Tolerance for Barbaric Cultural Practices Act forbids child marriage, polygamy, and forced marriage. It is being widely derided now as “anti-Muslim,” probably by the same people who last week were telling us that such practices had nothing whatsoever to do with Islam. It has even been blamed for the Harper government’s defeat. It will probably soon be a relic of history, and immigrants can stream into Canada and practice child marriage, forced marriage, and polygamy to their heart’s content. Here again we see that to the Left, all cultures must be defended and preserved except Western Judeo-Christian ones.

Meanwhile, this Syed Hussan is openly preaching sedition. But that is apparently just fine these days as long as you’re on the Left.

Note his open Sharia supremacism and call for the conquest of Canada: “We must celebrate our way of life, what they called barbaric cultural practices on our streets and in our homes until their way of life dissipates under our feet.”

“Toronto Protest: ‘Celebrate our barbaric cultural practices’, become ‘enemies’ of liberalism,” by Jonathan D. Halevi, CIJ News, February 6, 2017:

Thousands gathered on Saturday, February 4, 2017 in front of the American Consulate in Toronto to protest the policy of US President Donald Trump. The demonstration was organized by Black Lives Matter – Toronto (BLM TO) – the self proclaimed “coalition of Black Torontonians resisting anti-Black racism, state-sponsored violence and police brutality” – that has launched a nation-wide campaign entitled “National Days of Action Against Islamophobia & Deportations.”

One of the speakers at the rally was Syed Hussan, who represented the organization No One Is Illegal-Toronto and is affiliated with Toronto Community Mobilization Network and Migrant Workers Alliance for Change.

In his speech, Syed Hussan portrayed white supremacy, capitalism and liberalism as the enemy describing Donald Trump and Canada’s Prime Minister Justin Trudeau as the two sides of the same coin….

The following is the transcript of Syed Hussan’s speech:

I want you to repeat these names with me Mamadou [Tanou Barry], Abdelkrim [Hassane], Khaled [Belkacemi], Aboubaker [Thabti], Azzeddine [Soufiane], Ibrahima [Barry] shot, killed, murdered, executed, massacred while praying, for praying, never forget. Lives extinguished, families torn apart, children made fatherless, a river of tears.

A river of tears by the gun shots of a single man [Alexandre Bissonnette] or so we are told. An act of hate someone has to believe.

But this act, this attack, this shooting was no act of hate. It is a strategic act, and intentional act, a thoughtful act.

Mamadou [Tanou Barry], Abdelkrim Hassane] and Khaled [Belkacemi] were killed because they were seen as enemies. Aboubaker [Thabti], Azzeddine [Soufiane], Ibrahima [Barry] were killed not by a lone wolf, but because they were threats.

You see, we, you and I, pushed out by borders, beaten down by police and impoverished in our communities. We are threats. We are fundamental challenge to our system of oppressiveness, this destructive way of life that cherishes the few over the many.

This way for life is what killed them. It gauges on oil to spread its evil wings. And to steal this oil it must declare us, it must declare the places we come from with oil, anti of humanity. It must turn us into enemies.

This way of life is Islamophobia. It’s Capitalism. This way of life brings perpetual war, enraging war from Mosul (Iraq) to Mogadishu (Somalia), from the Chiapas (Mexico) to Chernobyl (Ukraine), from Aleppo (Syria) to Algeria.

For as long as there has been history, black, brown, we’re the others. It is on our deaths that this system, this way of life, dances. And this way of life is what killed those six men.

This way of life needs borders. It needs to divide some of us into citizens and the rest of us into undocumented, migraines, others.

It needs to steal Indigenous children, destroy language, disappear women. We are made into enemies, disposable, locked up in prisons, forced to do endangered labour, in forms of factories. Pushed of our lands, recorded, weighed and measured for our skin.

This murderous way of life is white supremacy. This way pf life needs to be taken care off, its children fed, its food cooked, its homes kept warm and for that it must have gender, women. Women that are made to serve but watch closely. This way life is patriarchy.

And this way of life, the one that killed our six loved ones, needs armed forces whose work is death. And it needs bureaucrats, it needs administrators to sustain it. It needs courthouses like this one [The Toronto Courthouse]. And it needs a public, a public that is you and I to uphold these laws, enforcing them in the smallest of ways as teachers that check ID cards, as nurses that check health cards.

This kind way of life is liberalism. And this way of life comes in all colours. It comes in the red, the blue and the orange of your political parties. It comes in many flavors. It comes in a caustic bile of [US President Donald] Trump and it comes in the saturated sweetness of [Justin] Trudeau, who defends Muslims, but will arm the [Saudi] bombing of Yemen, who defends Muslims, but will scrap to the likes of Barrick Gold [mining company] and will not clean the five decade long of mercury poisoning in Grassy [Narrows Reserve in Ontario]….

We must break down the borders that keep out migrants and refugees. We must tear down the prisons and the detention centers.

We will seize the farms and the factories. We must become the enemies, so that in this city everyone can live with food, shelter, dignity.

We must become the enemies that sow terror in their hearts so that laws like C-51 shredded away.

We must celebrate our way of life, what they called barbaric cultural practices on our streets and in our homes until their way of life dissipates under our feet.

Let us become enemies. Let us organize. Let us win. We cannot wait. Freedom is calling. This is what these demands, that demand of us, let us be enemies.

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  1. Wellington says

    Feb 6, 2017 at 6:36 pm

    Total projection as well as a very large dose of both ignorance and hatred.

    • PRCS says

      Feb 6, 2017 at 8:14 pm

      On both the speaker’s part and that of his adoring fans.

      • Wellington says

        Feb 6, 2017 at 8:45 pm

        Agreed, PRCS.

      • gravenimage says

        Feb 6, 2017 at 10:01 pm

        Yes–disgusting.

        • Brenda B VanRootselaar says

          Feb 7, 2017 at 10:28 am

          And where is the fucking CBC? Why were they not there?

        • Cheryl says

          Feb 8, 2017 at 12:44 am

          Where the hell was the government when this was going on? They passed a bill saying criminal charges will be laid if Canadians speak out against Islam, right? Yet will charges be laid against this idiot, in calling Canadians, white supremacy groups? Highly unlikely, seeing our PM prays in Mosques.

      • efoc says

        Feb 7, 2017 at 12:17 am

        True insanity on display here. Quite sickening.

        • Christianblood says

          Feb 7, 2017 at 8:17 am

          A muslim stealth jihadist says:

          (..We must celebrate our way of life, what they called barbaric cultural practices on our streets and in our homes until their way of life dissipates under our feet..)

          There are hundreds of islam-loving liberal ‘infidel kuffar’ listening to these words and I am wondering if they understood what those words meant or how they reacted in hearing those words?

        • James Baron says

          Feb 7, 2017 at 8:23 am

          Yes we do understand what they meant. I’m wondering if the person who can’t construct infinitive verbs might have trouble understanding what he meant.

          He’s saying that:

          “We must celebrate our way of life, what they called barbaric cultural practices(sarcasm) on our streets and in our homes until their way of life(white supremacy) dissipates under our feet

        • MorrisBCanada says

          Feb 7, 2017 at 9:52 am

          I thought justin and muslims were supposed to be friends and supporters. I bet this will put justin’s nose out of joint and muss his hair. Where was this preacher hiding when justin was visiting all those mosques (pre-election) and reciting the shahada?

          It boggles the mind that all these UNCRITICAL neo-libs can’t see the forest for the trees. In this supposedly democratic Canada they’re railing against “islamophobia” and free speech but if they tried this in majority muslim countries (saudi arabia,, uae, etc) they’d be chucked in jail with sentences of lashings, beheadings etc.

          I think there’s something about it working both ways, people?

          In the meantime, to me, this says there’s a huge deficit in our education system; is history taught anymore? what about social science? All gone to hell.

          As these things are happening we can all have a good laugh at them. They must be RIDICULED for the idiots they are.

          There are a lot of ex-muslim authors who are raising these issues “Atheist Muslim” by Ali Rizvi is an excellent book. It’s the islamic religion that’s the problem!!! The other religions have evolved and their adherents don’t go around killing and beheading innocents.

        • gravenimage says

          Feb 7, 2017 at 3:07 pm

          James Baron wrote:

          He’s saying that:

          “We must celebrate our way of life, what they called barbaric cultural practices(sarcasm) on our streets and in our homes until their way of life(white supremacy) dissipates under our feet
          …………………………

          The idea that civilized Canadian culture–including opposing child rape and forced marriage–is nothing but “white supremacy” is nothing but calumny,

      • lilia minchev says

        Feb 7, 2017 at 5:12 pm

        Muslims will never agree with western standards of live.so do not let our beautiful free country to be run over because 15, 20 years from now we will have very different picture . I will ask why we do not have a problems with any other nationality and religion only muslim ????? I am immigrant too from Europe so please reed the history and you will know why.

        • ninetyninepct says

          Feb 8, 2017 at 12:45 pm

          5 – 10 years from now if not sooner.
          Arm yourselves, write your Member of Parliament to vote against M-103.

    • dumbledoresarmy says

      Feb 7, 2017 at 8:33 am

      Also, it’s about “split the camp”.

      He’s trying to divide the camp of the Infidels; to play upon existing divisions and resentments and make them worse.

      • gravenimage says

        Feb 7, 2017 at 3:31 pm

        Exactly, DDA. Muslims have often used divide and conquer–we see Muslim trolls here trying that all the time.

        All non-Muslims should stand against the threat of Islam–in the end, Mohammedans regard us all as “filthy Kuffar”.

        • Paskudni says

          Feb 7, 2017 at 4:33 pm

          At least we “filthy kuffar” use toilet paper and not sand.

        • gravenimage says

          Feb 8, 2017 at 4:04 pm

          Actually, Paskudni, we are more civilized than savage Muslims in every way–decent hygiene is the least of it. We also don’t practice any of those horrific Barbaric Cultural Practices mentioned above.

    • Paul Ashley says

      Feb 7, 2017 at 10:11 am

      Hatred certainly but it may not be so ignorant, co-opting as it does the memes that Western leftists employ against themselves. Islamist know that Western libs are fools who will fall for any victim-cased argument.

      • PRCS says

        Feb 7, 2017 at 11:19 am

        Correcto Mundo!

      • A Harris USA says

        Feb 7, 2017 at 12:06 pm

        Paul, yes yes they are all Victims of the West!!! BOOO HOOO!!! My thought is is Canada is going to be another Germany before long.. Murders, rapes, and beheadings and shootings of infidels will become the normal everyday thing. CBC could care less about anything that is routine!!! Just like the US media, it will ignore anything that applies to Muslim terror.. Just because only ONE or two folks are murdered, oh well!! Canada is a open pit for the next terror headquarters in the world.. Get ready Canada, you are in their cross fire!! Easy pickings that is just the facts.. Ignore the evil and it will take over!!

        • Jerry says

          Feb 7, 2017 at 1:14 pm

          Certainly, unless there is law prohibiting Islam as cult camouflaging as religion. I wonder where is our RSMP and why Syed Hussan is not charged with the hate speech. Anybody old enough can see how Canada is going down the drain in past 50 years. All that rolling down the hill was started by Pierre Trudeau and Justin is the apple which grew on the same tree.

    • epistemology says

      Feb 8, 2017 at 8:59 am

      This guy is so pathetic, words fail and the way he attacks our Western world is outrageous. We have to get rid of this muzzie scum by all means. I was born in the free world and I want it to remain free, we need to defend our values.

  2. vlparker says

    Feb 6, 2017 at 6:41 pm

    This is precisely why Trump’s extreme vetting will fail. These are everyday, run of the mill muslims, not beheaders and suicide bombers. It is everyday, run of the mill muslims that are currently destroying Europe. The only way to save the west is to ban all muslim immigration permanently.

    • PRCS says

      Feb 6, 2017 at 8:18 pm

      http://tinyurl.com/htngo82

    • gravenimage says

      Feb 6, 2017 at 10:23 pm

      Ideally, they will realize that, and this temporary ban would quietly become permanent. But there are plenty of fools, unfortunately, who desperately want the flood of Muslims into the West to continue.

    • Christianblood says

      Feb 7, 2017 at 8:21 am

      vlparker

      (..The only way to save the west is to ban all muslim immigration permanently..)

      You are absolutely right. The only way to be safe non-muslim societies from the real threat of destructive islamic fascism is to ban islam.

      • gravenimage says

        Feb 7, 2017 at 3:38 pm

        But Christianblood, you have lauded Russian Orthodox Patriarch Kirill welcoming Muslims flooding into Russia, including into Moscow. Did you change your mind at some point on this issue?

        • Christianblood says

          Feb 7, 2017 at 6:56 pm

          gravenimage

          Graven, the Russian Orthodox Patriarch never did such a thing, it may be misunderstanding of some sort or propaganda but he never did such a thing. You have to understand Graven that Russia and the Orthodox East has a very long bloody history with islam and many Orthodox countries of the East were forced to live under islamic rule for over four hundreds years with millions murdered and hundreds of thousands enslaved and converted forcibly to islam and remember most of that happened long before America come into being as a nation! Graven, please also understand that tens of thousands of heroic Russian soldiers shed their precious blood and oaid the ultimate price to free many Eastern European countries from the slavery and the bondage of islam through the centuries and Russians understand deeply this history and will never cow tow or show weakness or be politically-correct in the face of islamic aggression. On the other hand, please understand that there are millions of muslims who are also Russian citizens and the patriarch of Russia or the President of Russia will sometimes speak of them as good Russian citizens and will extend and hand of peace, love and goodwill towards them and there is nothing wrong with that. Please read more of the history of the millions of Orthodox Christians murdered by islam on the link below:

          http://www.serfes.org/orthodox/memoryof.htm

        • gravenimage says

          Feb 8, 2017 at 5:31 pm

          Christianblood, I am well aware of Russia’s hundreds of years of suffering at the hands of Muslims, as well as their bravery in beating back Islam in eastern Europe.

          That’s why this pandering to Muslims there is so disturbing. Actually, I mentioned this appalling quote before:

          “Unlike the West, which is already nervous about the arrival of refugees, Moscow alone has taken in more Muslims than the whole of Europe has done by now. And nobody in the world is aware of it. And there is no hysteria, no police, no gas, no physical clashes,” the patriarch said at a meeting with Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas at his residence in Peredelkino, Moscow Region, on Thursday.

          “West should learn from Russia to accept Muslim refugees – Patriarch Kirill”

          http://www.interfax-religion.com/?act=news&div=12354

          He then goes on to applaud Abbas for helping to erect a Mega-Mosque in the Russian capital.

          At that point, you defended his words, saying something along the lines of Muslims in Russia not being a threat.

          I then mentioned Beslan, the Moscow theater siege, the attack on the Moscow subway, the bombing of the Moscow airport, and the beheading of the little girl, also in Moscow, and you made light of these atrocities.

          As I have said before, I hate to see Jihad *anywhere*–and I also realize the danger of dhimmitude, even if you choose not to when it exists outside the West.

  3. somehistory says

    Feb 6, 2017 at 6:44 pm

    “us into undocumented, migraines, others. ”

    People like him, give me plenty of ”migraines”. I may have to document them if I have to hear much more about islam and its evil spread…spread by lies and every form of deception…by moslims and their blind, lying supporters.

    • Debi Brand says

      Feb 7, 2017 at 5:28 am

      Indeed, s-h,

      I’m telling you right now, put me with the citizens, those migraines–especially so those too severe to even allow one to document them, they are down right horrific.

      That said, He stated, ‘We must celebrate our way of life…until their way of life dissipates under our feet’”

      What on earth, in heavens name, is he talking about?

      Answer: It is called Islam, plain and simple.

      Therefore, call it by name, fight it everywhere, support it no where, lacking that, prepare yourself and your children to serve it.

  4. moeped says

    Feb 6, 2017 at 6:53 pm

    Oh that’s just great, scum bs mongers blm are in the north now. They simply try to divide people, that’s it. They need to be declared a terrorist organization and jailed. This dirty filthy animal is preaching civil war…blatantly. Please police and government, stop fucking around, else be complicit.

  5. linnte says

    Feb 6, 2017 at 6:56 pm

    He is calling for Islamic revolution. I say, BRING IT ON SUCCKA!

    • ken says

      Feb 6, 2017 at 9:03 pm

      Absolutely. Islam is death for the West. Islam must be removed from out lands. It is a ticking time bomb of hatred and intolerance.

      Be prepared people. Canada is completely unprepared for what is to come. Many Canadians are living in a pink bubble – a bubble that is about to burst in a bloody explosion of Islamic violence. Try to get people to wake up, but in the meantime, be ready.

    • Westman says

      Feb 7, 2017 at 3:41 am

      “Let us become enemies. Let us organize. Let us win. We cannot wait. Freedom is calling. This is what these demands, that demand of us, let us be enemies.” What a seditious lot.

      For this nut, “Freedom is calling”, is likely to be replaced by a “Blacksite is calling”. Even the “tootsie” Trudeau administration is getting some challenge to their all-religions-are-equal notions; from the very people that, they thought, loved them. What part of their, “miserable house”, do they think Islam will ignore?

      • SK says

        Feb 7, 2017 at 11:59 am

        “sow terror in their hearts”

        Isn’t “FEAR OF MUSLIM EUMELANIN” supposedly the reason we even have Bill C-51?

        What kind of person thinks that this kind of idea even makes sense in context of the idea that people are already afraid? What on earth do you plan to create by adding more fear? Do you think that it helped for quote-unquote “unIslamic” extremist groups like ISIL? Do you think that it worked for left-wing militant groups?

        Sorry, but this guy just doesn’t make sense. I can be okay with First Nations women not disappearing and Wynne cleaning up the mercury spill, but not everything.

  6. David King says

    Feb 6, 2017 at 6:59 pm

    please let me see what factory your spoiled butt has ever worked in. What a sham!

    • gravenimage says

      Feb 7, 2017 at 3:46 pm

      This pious Muslim is probably on the dole.

  7. Zammana says

    Feb 6, 2017 at 7:00 pm

    And now for that wall on the northern border…

  8. James says

    Feb 6, 2017 at 7:00 pm

    Hop Trump rejects his visa if he tries to enter the US.

  9. Angemon says

    Feb 6, 2017 at 7:01 pm

    We will seize the farms and the factories.

    The proletariat seizing the means of production? Gee, where have I heard that one before?…

    • gravenimage says

      Feb 6, 2017 at 10:35 pm

      Yes–just dusting off the Marxist rhetoric…

    • maghan says

      Feb 7, 2017 at 2:10 am

      That was Muhammad’s modus operandi when he plundered caravans in the Arabian desert.

  10. john spielman says

    Feb 6, 2017 at 7:21 pm

    this is sedation! this guy should be arrested and tried for treason !

  11. john spielman says

    Feb 6, 2017 at 7:25 pm

    oops the word is sedition (spell check got me)

    • Rufolino says

      Feb 7, 2017 at 2:38 am

      How dare you be “Islamophobic” !!

      • James Baron says

        Feb 7, 2017 at 2:42 am

        Well it’s sorta like being afraid of spiders. They rarely kill us, but we seem to kill a lot of them. In fact, we’re not even half as likely to be assaulted by them as they are to be assaulted by a white person.

        • john spielman says

          Feb 7, 2017 at 7:10 am

          what does “whiteness” have to do with killing spiders?

        • Lesley says

          Feb 7, 2017 at 7:31 am

          James Baron, There are 3 videos posted by Dum Spiro in the comments of the other Canadian news article, please watch them.

          The female speaker is a Canadian who grew up Muslim in Saudi Arabia, and she explains why she is troubled by Islam in Canada (she is an apostate).

          The videos are in the comments of the article about the man being arrested for his own safety in Canada, for decrying Islamization.

          I promise you will find them interesting, and will look for your feedback 🙂

        • James Baron says

          Feb 7, 2017 at 7:38 am

          Lesley, no thanks. I’ve seen enough videos of hate from both Muslims and non-Muslims.

          I actually prefer to rely on science and math. More Muslims are dying from hating Muslims than Muslims hating white people in Canada.

          That’s just a fact.

          Whoever wants to can stand up and say whatever they want. There are thousands of white supremacist, neo-Nazis in Canada who are allowed to march down the streets spreading their message of hate, and have forums like this one, but one person stands up and says something hateful against you and you’re upset.

          I think you have your priorities mixed up there, buds.

        • CogitoErgoSum says

          Feb 7, 2017 at 9:53 am

          James thinks only white people would be mean enough to kill a poor little spider. Why, a spider is such a wonderful creature that white people should all be bringing them into their homes ….. especially those spiders that are black or brown such as the black widow and the brown recluse.

          James thinks it’s especially good to help these spiders increase and multiply in the home ….. especially a white home because spiders love white people and white homes most of all. Plus, spiders are so cute when they are first hatched and if you teach them some science and math when they are small they won’t bite or spin their webs all over the house when they get bigger. Sure, a few hundred of them (okay, maybe a few thousand depending on how helpful you are to them) may get into your clothing hanging in the closet but you should always carefully check your clothes before dressing anyway. Even if you are bitten, chances are you will only be sick for a short time and your scars will be just slightly deforming. Just as an added precaution though, it’s best if you don’t have any children. Children and spiders are a bad combination …….. especially white children … and besides without any children around there will be more room for the spiders and their spider-babies.

          Oh those wonderful spiders! Everyone loves them ……… except, of course, for white people ……… who really are the vilest of creatures and worse than spiders.

          Now ……. about those snakes …………………………….

        • john spielman says

          Feb 7, 2017 at 1:19 pm

          to James Baron: when did “white supremcists” march down the streets?

        • gravenimage says

          Feb 7, 2017 at 4:05 pm

          James Baron wrote:

          Well it’s sorta like being afraid of spiders. They rarely kill us, but we seem to kill a lot of them. In fact, we’re not even half as likely to be assaulted by them as they are to be assaulted by a white person.
          …………………………….

          The idea that “white people” are irrationally slaughtering Muslims is just false–and clearly, he hopes that we ignore those 30,000+ Jihad terror attacks just since 9/11.

          And note his statistics–he claims that Canadians are a little less than half as likely to be assaulted by a Muslim as by a “white person” (never mind that some Muslims are themselves white, since Islam is not a race).

          Since Muslims in Canada make up just a little over 3% of the population, and whites make up about about 85% of the population there, doesn’t this poster hence realize that his means that Muslims are *many times* more violent than are white Canadians?

          More:

          Lesley, no thanks. I’ve seen enough videos of hate from both Muslims and non-Muslims.
          …………………………….

          Yes–preaching the slaughter of Infidels and taking issue with Muslims slaughtering us are both “hate”.

          More:

          I actually prefer to rely on science and math. More Muslims are dying from hating Muslims than Muslims hating white people in Canada.

          That’s just a fact.
          …………………………….

          Why is the phenomenon of Muslims butchering each other supposed to be considered by us to be a *mitigating* factor? Instead, it just shows how out of control Muslim violence is.

          More:

          Whoever wants to can stand up and say whatever they want. There are thousands of white supremacist, neo-Nazis in Canada who are allowed to march down the streets spreading their message of hate, and have forums like this one, but one person stands up and says something hateful against you and you’re upset.

          I think you have your priorities mixed up there, buds.
          …………………………….

          The idea that freedom of speech in the West covers calls for violence is iffy, to say the least.

          And note what the dishonest James Baron is doing here: implying that *opposing violent Jihad*–and horrors like child rape and forced marriage–is “Nazism”. What moral insanity.

          And he accuses others of having mixed up priorities.

        • Lesley says

          Feb 7, 2017 at 8:35 pm

          …and in perfect Leftist form, James Baron called me some kind of racist with skewed priorities, while refusing to entertain anything other than his own point of view.

          You are the sort who will never be persuaded by the (abundant) facts, even if it bit you on your self-righteous a$$.

          Good luck to you, sir 🙂

  12. Buford says

    Feb 6, 2017 at 7:27 pm

    This is the same type of crap they will claim & pull in all western Country’s it is not enough that they were allowed in they want to change every country they invade to there screwed up way of life I blame stupid politicians like Obama, Trudope, Merkel & that Shrimp that is President of France they should be tried for treason for allowing these Malcontents into the West.

  13. Katnis says

    Feb 6, 2017 at 7:30 pm

    Proof that every muslim can easily be inspired to act out hate and violence. Instead of being grateful for the opportunities given to him, he spouts out jihad in his own words.

    You can’t win with these people. They don’t belong here.

    • maghan says

      Feb 7, 2017 at 2:12 am

      Amazing that they never want to migrate to Empire Headquarters, the mother country, Saudi Arabia.

  14. Dov Berrol says

    Feb 6, 2017 at 7:37 pm

    There is a strong connection between what happens in the UK and what happens in Canada. The socialist Islam-lovers in Canada are close cousins to those in the UK…and Canada is just a decade or two behind the UK in terms of civilizational suicide by Muslim immigration and birth rates.

    Take it from this Canadian: the Muslim world saw 9/11 as a victory and used that terrorist attack as the invitation to take over North America and enjoy the spoils of the victorious Muslim Ummah. In the decades before that mass murder of 2001, none of us Canadians ever saw a hijab or ever heard about Muslim complaints and demands in Parliament. Now, Islam is all over Canada – visibly and politically. Their holy days suddenly started appearing on my Day Planner refills, Halal fast food chains (eg Medina) started appearing in every Canadian shopping mall, and hijabs are suddenly appearing by the 100’s in our hospitals and universities. The oil wealth from the Persian Gulf is fuelling this post 9/11 Victory Parade of Islam. We must fight against this Arab Imperialism and Colonialism….the very things the political left seems to fight against when it comes from the British nation.

  15. SK says

    Feb 6, 2017 at 7:41 pm

    This seems like the kind of person who believes that the term “barbaric cultural practices” secretly includes concepts like “covering hair while having high amounts of eumelanin”, “having a beard and being dark-skinned”, and “performing an Islamic prayer”.

    That’s why he’s under the assumption that the bill carries a real risk of being expanded to include anyone who is either a dark-skinned immigrant or a Muslim.

    • gravenimage says

      Feb 6, 2017 at 11:37 pm

      SK–with all respect–your idea that this thuggish Muslim must really have been concerned about something else does not really hold water.

      Are you unaware that Muslims actually *do* engage in child marriage, forced marriage, and polygamy?

      • dumbledoresarmy says

        Feb 7, 2017 at 6:04 am

        Not to mention Quranically-commanded wife-beating, and the majority of known ‘honor’ murders, worldwide.

        And the murder of apostates, and the murder of ‘blasphemers’ (as exemplified by the murder of Theo Van Gogh, for having helped an apostate from Islam make a film – ‘Submission’ – that criticised Islamic misogyny).

        • gravenimage says

          Feb 7, 2017 at 4:26 pm

          Yes, DDA–child marriage and forced marriage are just the tip of the iceberg re Islam’s barbarities.

      • SK says

        Feb 7, 2017 at 11:42 am

        I am aware of that. I’m not remotely denying it. This is why I think that leftist Muslims can somehow deny that all of these practices are part of their religion, but still complain about the legislation.

        BLMTO is already arguing that the real reason people are suspicious of Islam is because of “white supremacy”. My comment is my attempt to eludicate the thought patterns modern social justice thinks in

        • gravenimage says

          Feb 7, 2017 at 4:34 pm

          SK, thanks for the reply. I certainly agree that Muslims are all to happy to use the tropes of Marxism, Leftism, and “social justice”, if they think it will further the cause of Islam.

  16. BLC says

    Feb 6, 2017 at 8:00 pm

    After all that Trudeau has done for Muslims, they don’t sound overly appreciative of him. Sounds like he’s just another dhimmi to them.

    • john spielman says

      Feb 7, 2017 at 7:12 am

      YUP! and according to islamic supremacist theology, even “liberals” will be like dust under their feet!

    • gravenimage says

      Feb 7, 2017 at 4:36 pm

      Very true–in the end, even Islam-enabling dhimmis like Justin Trudeau are just “filthy Infidels”.

  17. Mark A says

    Feb 6, 2017 at 8:49 pm

    So according to this guy, Capitalism = White Supremacy = Patriarchy = “the enemy” = a system which must be overthrown by “the enemy of the enemy.”

    And “the enemy” must be overthrown by “the enemy of the enemy” and way of life enjoyed by “the enemy” must be destroyed in the name of a litany of leftist causes so that there will be a world of plenty for all. Our way of life must be crushed under these people’s feet?

    Yeah right. He’s preaching the overthrow of the Canadian system of government and the Canadian way of life and these fools are cheering him on.

    It sounds like a declaration of civil war against all of us who support the current Canadian system.

    • gravenimage says

      Feb 6, 2017 at 11:40 pm

      Yes–doesn’t anyone see the irony in his ranting against the “patriarchy” while defending forced marriage and child rape? But Muslims will using anything, including the rhetoric of the Left, if they think it will further the cause of Islam.

      • maghan says

        Feb 7, 2017 at 2:14 am

        The guy is just ignorant.

        • Wamo53 says

          Feb 7, 2017 at 4:48 am

          Actually, he’s just dangerous.

        • gravenimage says

          Feb 7, 2017 at 4:41 pm

          Yes–I think this Jihadist is being very cagey in using this rhetoric–it doesn’t matter to him whether it makes sense, just that it is effective in spreading Islam.

      • James Baron says

        Feb 7, 2017 at 2:34 am

        He’s not defending child rape. He’s defending being called a child rapist. The Barbaric Cultural Practices Act is just another way for people to accuse them of doing such things. He’s saying that he’s tired of people saying that about Islam.

        • dumbledoresarmy says

          Feb 7, 2017 at 7:22 am

          Mohammed ‘married’ Aisha when she was six and bedded her when she turned nine (in lunar years).

          is that not child rape?

          The example of Mohammed has *sacralised* child ‘marriage’, of barely-pubescent and prepubescent girls, to men two and three and four times their age, within the dar al Islam, **for all time**. Because *whatever* mohammed did, is fine for all Musilms to also do, forever. He *establishes* the Sunnah. Mohammed’s bedding of little Aisha – a thing that pious Muslims regularly defend, and sentimentalise (which boggles the mind, for any person who knows waht full sexual intercourse with an adult male is likely to do to the body of a little nine-year-old girl) is *the* thing that roadblocks any attempts, by westernised Muslims in assorted countries – e.g. Yemen – to get the age at which girls may be married, raised to something resembling what modenr civilised countries, in the light of modern advances in knowledge of human physical and psychological development, hold to be appropriate.

          Ayaan Hirsi Ali, apostate from Islam, shocked the Dutch by stating flatly that she regarded Mohammed as a pervert.

          He *was* a rapist; his sexual relations with two captive women – Rayhana and Safiyya – can, under the circumstances, ONLY be viewed as outright rape. That they ended up in his harem, and that Safiyya was called his ‘wife’, does not mitigate what he did to them. You might as well defend or sentimentalise what Islamic State jihadis have done to Yazidi and Christian girls in Iraq and Syria – they ‘marry’ them, sure, but the girls DON’T WANT it and are raped, raped, raped; and ditto, what the Boko Harem jihadis have done to the scores of young – mostly Christian – girls that they seized from the boarding school in Chibok. Sure, those girls are ‘married’. But they are victims of RAPE. Of kidnapping and rape. And the model for those rapes – and that kidnapping, treating them as spoils of war – is Mohammed, Mohammed, Mohammed whom Moshe ben Maimon called “ha-Meshugga”, The Mad One.

        • James Baron says

          Feb 7, 2017 at 7:32 am

          He’s not saying he should or anyone else should marry a child.

        • gravenimage says

          Feb 7, 2017 at 4:49 pm

          More apologia from James Baron:

          He’s not defending child rape. He’s defending being called a child rapist. The Barbaric Cultural Practices Act is just another way for people to accuse them of doing such things. He’s saying that he’s tired of people saying that about Islam.
          ………………………….

          Why would he be tired of Islam being characterized of allowing child marriage, since this is on the model of the perfect man, the “Prophet” Muhammed?

          Instead, he is just tired of the ‘filthy Infidels’ being *critical* of child rape.

          And the idea that referring to child marriage in Canada is some sort of baseless “Islamophobia” is belied by simple facts:

          “Muslim child brides on rise”

          http://www.torontosun.com/news/torontoandgta/2010/03/11/13201531.html

  18. Spike1033 says

    Feb 6, 2017 at 9:43 pm

    It’s interesting that all the evil things of the west are what is keeping him housed and fed. Without all the wicked western inventions, capitalism, banks, social policies, education and child-care he’d be living in some middle-eastern cess-pit. Our western liberal policies are allowing him to speak this rubbish in public. If he tried it in Saudi Arabia he’s be gone in the blink of an eye.

  19. gravenimage says

    Feb 6, 2017 at 9:57 pm

    Toronto Muslim speaker: “We must celebrate our way of life…until their way of life dissipates under our feet”
    …………………..

    Syed Hussan is *championing* child marriage and forced marriage–and it is this that he wants to replace our civilized societies with. And he is doing this openly in the streets of Canada’s largest city.

    • Kay says

      Feb 7, 2017 at 12:24 am

      I must be asleep and having a nightmare.
      It’s unbelievable what is being tolerated.

  20. Kirk says

    Feb 6, 2017 at 10:11 pm

    This is the same psycho that was involved in the G20 summit and was arrested for leading the riots and violence there. http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/alleged-ringleader-talks-about-g20-arrest-1.939775

    • gravenimage says

      Feb 6, 2017 at 11:48 pm

      Thanks for the additional information, Kirk.

  21. Martel says

    Feb 6, 2017 at 10:24 pm

    Hizb Ut-Tahrir In Australia are often spruiking (promoting) their global caliphate on the cenotaph of the War Memorial in the Sydney Islamic enclave of Lakemba. Uttering such platitudes as ” If a thousand bombs go off in Australia it will mean one thing… that the Muslims are angry”. To speak in such a way on the sacred war memorial, a symbol of our forefathers’ sacrifice is a grand insult.

    Members of an Australian patriots organization were there to observe and document this vitriolic gathering, the police however forced the handful of peaceful Anglo Australians out of the area, the police telling them that they were in danger and the public peace was about to be broken.

    One refused this move on order and he was removed to a nearby suburb in a police wagon.. This is what is happening in modern Australia and Muslims are currently around 3% of the population.
    Strong political movements need to rise up now and fast if the west as we know it and enjoy it is to continue

    • Larry Larkin says

      Feb 6, 2017 at 11:30 pm

      The NSW police force aren’t quite as bad as the Victorian’s yet, but they are getting there.

      You only have to look at the problems they are having replacing the incumbent corrupt incompetent.

    • gravenimage says

      Feb 7, 2017 at 12:14 am

      Appalling, Martel.

  22. putridislam says

    Feb 6, 2017 at 11:47 pm

    Why is he allowed on the streets to preach hatred. Why hasn’t this hate monger been arrested? Trudeau, step down you useless ass.

  23. newz says

    Feb 7, 2017 at 12:14 am

    “we will seize the farms!”

    Come and try to take it dipshit. You sorely underestimate rural folk.

    • dumbledoresarmy says

      Feb 7, 2017 at 7:25 am

      I’d like to see what happens if he turns up on the Rez and tries to tell Infidel Canadian Native Ryan Bellerose that Canada belongs to the Musilms.

  24. James Baron says

    Feb 7, 2017 at 12:26 am

    If this gets deleted, it’ll be the last time I post or visit this site. I’m a Canadian and I live near Toronto where this happened.

    This man is not advocating for barbaric practices. He’s protesting against having peaceful Muslims being labeled as people who commit acts of barbarism. Not once did he tell anyone to be violent, either. To provide context for some Americans, The Conservatives tried to create a law, targeted at Muslims, called The Barbaric Cultural Practices Act; a law that would outlaw polygamy, beating your wife, honour killings, etc. You know, the things that are already banned by every liberal democracy like Canada, The United States, 180 other liberal democracies, and many other sovereign states. The only difference is: This had to be repeated for Muslims so that they would know their place and that other Canadians, all white(which I am white, German-Canadian), could hate and fear them. They even created a hotline that you could call and report them.

    This man is protesting Islamaphobia and the culture and laws that allowed it. Not once did he advocate “Sharia supremacism [sic]”. That is an outlandish claim. He even says that treating women unequally is part of the problem.

    I don’t agree with his comments about capitalism, Trudeau, or liberalism. I think he needs a little education on those matters.

    What really makes this whole article a bit quizzical, apart from the tone, spelling, and grammar that undermines its ethos, is that a white person killed six Muslims, which far exceeds the number of Canadians killed by Muslims on our own soil, and they’re still the enemy? It’s far more dangerous for a Muslim to live in Canada than for us to live in Canada with them. A Muslim is far more likely to be assaulted for the colour of his or her skin and for praying to their God. I don’t see why you people are so afraid of them. I didn’t expect my fellow Canadians to be such ignorant cowards.

    What a shame.

    • marc says

      Feb 7, 2017 at 12:50 am

      @James Baron said:
      “If this gets deleted, it’ll be the last time I post or visit this site…. I don’t see why you people are so afraid of them. I didn’t expect my fellow Canadians to be such ignorant cowards.”

      I’m clearing this comment, little surprised at your tactic there, introducing yourself and your argument with ad hominems, I’m actually a recent immigrant from the UK, like many of the Jews who came here, we are being hounded out of Europe by them.

      I have seen where this leads, Syed Hussan and the others that look to enforce sharia have a play book, he spelled it out clearly in his speech, I guess you want more of this then, “Let us become enemies” he said, I guess you picked a side.

      • James Baron says

        Feb 7, 2017 at 2:25 am

        a) That’s not an ad hominem
        b) Just the fact that you have to say you’re “clearing” it is a bit suspicious
        c) Your response is an ad hominem and a loaded question

        You say that I have a “Sharia” playbook. Well thanks for minimizing and incorrectly characterizing my argument. How do you figure I’m supporting Sharia law with what I said. Where did I say that?

        Another thing that you’re incorrectly characterizing is whom he is saying that he wants to be enemies with. He is saying that he wants to be enemies with white supremacists and Islamaphobes and that he wants to “fight” them by working to change their minds. He is literally saying he’s against racist people but he is going to defy them with peace.

        • maghan says

          Feb 7, 2017 at 2:51 am

          Wrong. People don’t oppose Islam on the basis of race. There are millions of Muslims of any major race. People don’t oppose Buddhists and Hindus at all–just on their beliefs. Islam is different because one of its central tenets is that “infidels should be fought against until Islam covers the earth”. That’s absurd but if one is self-declared Muslim then one must BELIEVE that.

          Islam supports rape and slavery.(Quran 33:50)

          Islam supports murder, invasions of the countries of innocents, and land theft(Verse of the Sword(Qur’an 9:5)

          A humanistic person would find Islam very repulsive and a belief system to be eradicated.

        • James Baron says

          Feb 7, 2017 at 2:56 am

          Well, megs, you did a good job of ignoring everything else in that argument.

          Christianity also believes the same thing.

          But here’s the thing, if what you say is true, why aren’t they killing us after we just took in 35,000 of them. Why? If even 1% of them was what you claim, there would be at least 350 Muslims killing white people. Instead there’s white people killing them.

        • James Baron says

          Feb 7, 2017 at 3:04 am

          I’m just going to throw this out there, megs, but maybe … just maybe, your beliefs are more dangerous than Islam. I mean, you want to talk about statistics; right?

        • James Baron says

          Feb 7, 2017 at 3:05 am

          http://www.cbc.ca/news/opinion/canadian-mass-murders-1.3958772

        • Canadian says

          Feb 7, 2017 at 4:47 am

          How come not 1 of these Muslims goes out to protest these So called Muslims who kill people around the world where are the Muslims speaking out and protesting these jihadists Muslims who put their religion into question as a peaceful religion no you won’t see or here them hmmm wonder why !!!!

        • gravenimage says

          Feb 7, 2017 at 7:40 pm

          More from apologist James Baron:

          If this gets deleted, it’ll be the last time I post or visit this site.
          ………………………………

          So far, James Baron has been allowed to freely spew his whitewash of Islam here–but he wants to pretend that his freedom of speech is being threatened by the “Islamophobes” here. Just disgusting.

          More:

          I’m a Canadian and I live near Toronto where this happened.

          This man is not advocating for barbaric practices. He’s protesting against having peaceful Muslims being labeled as people who commit acts of barbarism. Not once did he tell anyone to be violent, either.
          ………………………………

          Uh huh–we are supposed to believe that saying,“we must celebrate our way of life, what they called barbaric cultural practices on our streets and in our homes until their way of life dissipates under our feet” is actually somehow denying those barbaric practices, and that calling for the civilized Western way of life to be crushed under their feet is not a call for violence, nor is a call to seize our property.

          More:

          To provide context for some Americans, The Conservatives tried to create a law, targeted at Muslims, called The Barbaric Cultural Practices Act; a law that would outlaw polygamy, beating your wife, honour killings, etc. You know, the things that are already banned by every liberal democracy like Canada, The United States, 180 other liberal democracies, and many other sovereign states.
          ………………………………

          And he is opposing specifically outlawing such barbaric cultural practices–why, exactly?

          More:

          The only difference is: This had to be repeated for Muslims so that they would know their place and that other Canadians, all white(which I am white, German-Canadian), could hate and fear them. They even created a hotline that you could call and report them.
          ………………………………

          So he considers obeying civilized Canadian law to be humiliating? Why?

          And then the kicker–that they even created a hotline to report forced marriages and child rape! That this appalling poster has no problem with these crimes, but just with *reporting them*, is very telling.

          More:

          This man is protesting Islamaphobia and the culture and laws that allowed it. Not once did he advocate “Sharia supremacism [sic]”. That is an outlandish claim. He even says that treating women unequally is part of the problem.
          ………………………………

          Saying “we must celebrate our way of life until their way of life–i.e., that of civilized Canada–dissipates under our feet” *is* Shari’ah supremacy.

          More:

          I don’t agree with his comments about capitalism, Trudeau, or liberalism. I think he needs a little education on those matters.
          ………………………………

          What? This poster wants to educate a Muslim? Isn’t that white supremacism? sarc/off

          More:

          What really makes this whole article a bit quizzical, apart from the tone, spelling, and grammar that undermines its ethos, is that a white person killed six Muslims, which far exceeds the number of Canadians killed by Muslims on our own soil, and they’re still the enemy?
          ………………………………

          Firstly, that “white person”–as though Islam were a race!–was reported screaming “Allahu Akbar!” as he killed, which is not something an Infidel would do.

          A man was killed in the 2014 Saint-Jean-sur-Richelieu Jihad attack, another was killed in the Jihad attack at Parliament Hill the following year. In 1989 a Muslim slaughtered fourteen female engineering students at the École Polytechnique.

          Even if the Mosque attack was “Islamophobic”–which seems unlikely–how would this apologist have us believe that a body count of sixteen is greater than that of six?

          And this does not count all of the Jihad terror attacks foiled by Canadian authorities.

          More:

          It’s far more dangerous for a Muslim to live in Canada than for us to live in Canada with them. A Muslim is far more likely to be assaulted for the colour of his or her skin and for praying to their God.
          ………………………………

          *Really*? What about cases like this one:

          “Canada: Muslim migrant children choking, brutalizing non-Muslim students”

          https://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/04/canada-muslim-migrant-children-choking-brutalizing-non-muslim-students

          Civilized Infidels are not doing this to Muslims. Notable that this poster does not cite a single case.

          Yet more:

          I don’t see why you people are so afraid of them. I didn’t expect my fellow Canadians to be such ignorant cowards.

          What a shame.
          ………………………………

          We’ve heard *this* before–that if Infidels take issue with Muslims murdering them or abusing their children, that it is proof of Infidel “cowardice”. Good God…

          More, in reply to Marc:

          b) Just the fact that you have to say you’re “clearing” it is a bit suspicious
          ………………………………

          What claptrap. Comments have to be cleared for all sorts of reasons, including linking to more than two stories in a single post. I’ve had comments cleared here many times, and there is nothing “suspicious” about it.

          More:

          c) Your response is an ad hominem and a loaded question
          ………………………………

          In what way? This poster clearly supports this Muslim supremacist, who says that good Canadians are his enemies.

          More:

          You say that I have a “Sharia” playbook. Well thanks for minimizing and incorrectly characterizing my argument. How do you figure I’m supporting Sharia law with what I said. Where did I say that?
          ………………………………

          What rot. Marc noted that *Syed Hassan* has a Sharia playbook–not this poster.

          And note “Sharia” in sneer quotes, as though it does not exist. He should try telling those beheaded in Saudi Arabia or hanged in Iran or stoned to death in the Islamic State that.

          More:

          Another thing that you’re incorrectly characterizing is whom he is saying that he wants to be enemies with. He is saying that he wants to be enemies with white supremacists and Islamaphobes and that he wants to “fight” them by working to change their minds. He is literally saying he’s against racist people but he is going to defy them with peace.
          ………………………………

          Uh huh–destroying prisons and tearing down detention centers sounds *very* peaceful…sarc/off

          And the way of life he is talking about destroying is not that of “racist people”, but of Canadians who oppose child rape and forced marriage.

          More:

          Well, megs, you did a good job of ignoring everything else in that argument.

          Christianity also believes the same thing.
          ………………………………

          Where is there *anything* like Sura 9:5 in Christianity? And where are Christians slaughtering unbelievers, as pious Muslims are all over the world? Grotesque false moral equivalence.

          More:

          But here’s the thing, if what you say is true, why aren’t they killing us after we just took in 35,000 of them. Why? If even 1% of them was what you claim, there would be at least 350 Muslims killing white people. Instead there’s white people killing them.
          ………………………………

          This poster hopes we haven’t noticed all of the Jihad terror plots foiled by Canadian authorities, including that of the Toronto 18, which involved plans to detonate truck bombs, to open fire in a crowded area, and to storm the Canadian Broadcasting Centre, the Canadian Parliament building, the Canadian Security Intelligence Service (CSIS) headquarters, and the parliamentary Peace Tower to take hostages and to behead the Prime Minister and other leaders.

          There have been other foiled plots, that involved blowing up crowed trains and shooting up the Parliament. This last involved a Muslim gunman who had already murdered a soldier.

          Yet more:

          I’m just going to throw this out there, megs, but maybe … just maybe, your beliefs are more dangerous than Islam. I mean, you want to talk about statistics; right?
          ………………………………

          Yes–not wanting Muslims to murder us is clearly much more dangerous than Muslims murdering us. Now we know exactly where this apologist for Muslim savagery is coming from. *Ugh*.

      • James Baron says

        Feb 7, 2017 at 2:28 am

        I noticed how you didn’t “clear” any of my other comments.

        • Lesley says

          Feb 7, 2017 at 5:54 am

          @James Baron: I think you’re a nice person with good intentions. I hope you will stick around here and read and debate your perspective with us.

          We are more alert to things in the language of the speaker in the article because we’re only farther down this road (seeing the effects of Islamization).

          I GET that the speaker feels Muslims are unfairly singled out.

          The killing of any people in cold blood is always a tragedy.

          Islamophobia isn’t a real problem just because there’s a hotline for it.

          Read the Koran and Hadith for yourself. Watch Dr. Bill Warner’s YouTube video, “Why We Are Afraid of Islam; A 1400 Year Old Secret.”

          I hope you won’t have problems with Islam where you are, but as numbers of adherents to the ideology of Islam increase, things are likely to change in negative ways.

        • James Baron says

          Feb 7, 2017 at 7:29 am

          There is a long, rich history of Muslims living in peace in Canada. Sorry. I will never, ever hate the way you guys do.

        • PRCS says

          Feb 7, 2017 at 11:36 am

          Islam is defined by its texts, not by the degree to which individual Muslims comply.

          There is no Qur’an “lite” for squeamish “moderate” Muslims.

          The peaceful Muslims you refer to are cherry picking passages from Qur’an and Sunnah.

          Islamic State “fighters” are not.

        • gravenimage says

          Feb 7, 2017 at 7:50 pm

          James Baron wrote:

          There is a long, rich history of Muslims living in peace in Canada. Sorry. I will never, ever hate the way you guys do.
          ……………………………..

          After reading this posters appalling comments just on this thread, we know that he does not hate Muslims raping small children, engaging in forced marriages, calling for their coreligionists to steal from Infidels and to destroy prisons and detention centers, and vowing to replace our civilized way of life with Shari’ah barbarism.

          The only thing he hates is Infidels trying to protect against this savagery.

        • marc says

          Feb 7, 2017 at 8:11 pm

          @gravenimage et al, thank you for handling @James Baron so well, so much better than just blocking them.

        • gravenimage says

          Feb 8, 2017 at 8:07 pm

          Thank you, Marc. It is important for all of us to know how to counter apologia and whitewash of Islam. Lots of good stuff here from Anti-Jihad JW posters.

        • marc says

          Feb 8, 2017 at 8:15 pm

          @gravenimage, that was rich in BS, great for you guys to hone your skills on. BTW, I have not been blocking James Baron, he just ran away.

        • gravenimage says

          Feb 8, 2017 at 8:30 pm

          Marc, thanks for your reply–I never though James Baron had been blocked. I know it takes a great deal to be banned here–usually clear threats, abuse, or calls for violence.

          So many of these apologists hope to spew their meretricious claptrap and never be called on it. Many of them act as though being challenged on their dishonesty is an abridgment of their freedom of expression, when in reality replying to the assertions of others is very much a key part of freedom of speech.

        • marc says

          Feb 8, 2017 at 9:10 pm

          @gravenimage The vast majority are blocked by an automated system, from a list of “known bad actors” (thank you alienvault.com), but a few hundred a day make it to manual moderation, ones that start with “you’re all bunch of nazis” are not a good starting point for any discussion, evangelists of any flavour are restricted as they add little as they are still stuck on “my version of God is better than…”, and i don’t allow the nazis, you can’t waste your time with “the joooz did it”, then there’s those who think islam is a race, they are too thick to bother with. I limit spammers, cross posters, people who post links without commentary, and cut and paste artists.
          really keeping it on topic is what’s important. And yep, don’t care you they are calling for violence on, or wishing for a genocide of what people, they also get banned. sadly the list gets longer, as the site gets busier.

        • gravenimage says

          Feb 8, 2017 at 11:33 pm

          Marc, good to know that the filters are at least winnowing out *some* of the ugly spam. I know that Jihad Watch gets hundreds and sometimes thousands of comments a day, I cannot imagine how difficult it must be to keep up with it all–as well as maintaining the site and warding off cyber attacks.

          Thanks for all the work you do here, It is appreciated.

    • jayell says

      Feb 7, 2017 at 1:29 am

      Hello James Baron. You actually read the transcript of that speech as set out above? I’m assuming it’s accurate, because if it is, and with the description of its delivery in front of a reported massed crowd of 7000, my main and quite involuntary reaction was to hear in my mind a well-known news reel recording of a similar crowd in another place at another time responding to a not dissimilar speech with the chant ‘Sieg Heil! Sieg Heil! Sieg Heil!……. Have you also seen those news reels, Mr. Baron? If so, did you also perhaps notice the similarities? And you know what happened just a few years after those old news reels were made?

      • James Baron says

        Feb 7, 2017 at 2:30 am

        Godwin’s Law rears its ugly head.

        http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/189/715/161.jpg

        • jayell says

          Feb 7, 2017 at 4:50 am

          No one is suggesting that YOU like Hitler. However, I would like to know the opinion of our ‘friend’ who gave this speech in Toronto because our other late-departed Austrian ‘friend’ with the small moustache would have loved him as one of his dutiful non-Aryan useful idiots.

        • James Baron says

          Feb 7, 2017 at 7:27 am

          No one is suggesting you suggested I was like Hitler. You’re calling them Hitler.

          And no, he’s not Htiler. Are you that daft that you need someone to tell you the difference?

        • jayell says

          Feb 7, 2017 at 11:10 am

          Read my post, Mr Baron. I did not say that you were like Hitler. You posted a reply to me with a caption about accusing people (you?) of ‘liking’ Hitler. I said no such thing. However, this man Hussan, to judge by the tone and content of his speech, is altogether a different kettle of fish. I have no idea if transcripts of speeches by Nazi leaders given during the 1930’s are available, but contemporary newsreel footage is. The examples I have seen would have been heavily edited for the German cinema, but the message of the speeches would have been meticulously retained.Usually this amounts to a catalogue of supremacist imperialism, as one would expect at a rabble rousing event. In Hussan’s case, lines with appropriate buzz-words or figurative verbal soundbites aimed at immediate impact, in conjunction with highly dubious or pseudo-rational justifications abound, like:-

          1.”This murderous way of life is white supremacy” (= transparently racist self-projection, demonising the opposition according to one’s own predelictations or, in Third Reich terms, possibly a racial group like the Jews);
          2. “We must break down the borders (that keep out migrants and refugees)” – any talk of ‘breaking down borders’ that aren’t one’s own in any political or quasi-political context suggests an fundamentally imperialist agenda, reinforced by the fact that the ‘sympathy’ factor inherent in the use of the words ‘migrant’ and ‘refugee’ conceals the fact that Hussan is essentially referring to his own ilk here, which in turn underlines the imperialsim aspect;
          3. “We will seize the farms and the factories. We must become the enemies,” – classic Third Reich stuff, the ‘righteous justification’ which follows it is pure, irrelevant hogwash intended to validate the first outrageous suggestion;
          4. “We must become the enemies that sow terror in their hearts so that laws like C-51 shredded away” – sounds like Adolf publicly denouncing one of the international treaties that inhibited German/Nazi expansionism;
          5. “We must celebrate our way of life, what they called barbaric cultural practices on our streets and in our homes until their way of life dissipates under our feet.” Again, good 1930’s Third Reich rally material, might even have been useful to ‘Lord Haw Haw’ in his propaganda broadcasts to the UK during WW2 where his remit was to justify the German way of life at the time. (this material is available on audio CD);
          6. “Let us become enemies. Let us organize. Let us win. We cannot wait. Freedom* is calling. This is what these demands, that demand of us, let us be enemies…” This little pearl could easily have come from 1939, post-Chamberlain’s visit to Berlin. Clearly an incitement to conflict; (* ‘freedom’ is often invoked as a justification for unilateral aggressive action, often completely spuriously or with highly selective relevance);

          – all this kind of material would be fairly familiar to anyone who has had any chance to study similar archive examples from regimes like the emerging Third Reich, and the material is easily available. Mr. Baron clearly hasn’t bothered to find out.

      • High Hopes says

        Feb 7, 2017 at 11:43 am

        James, come and stay with me in London, my neighbours are Bengali immigrants who have never bothered to learn English, that means no work ever, apart from the late night taxi work, undeclared. Come listen to the children being beaten, and the women on occasion, listen to the Prince of the house calling his innocent little sister a stupid fucking bitch. Listen as I am abused on my way to church, as I try to shield MY innocent son from the horror. Rejoice as I am called a monkey, a honkey, by the BEST of people. The blueprint is the same behaviour for the last 1400 years, I truly pity your naivety, your last words are likely to be, ‘but I was on your side’. WAKE UP MAN.

        • dumbledoresarmy says

          Feb 9, 2017 at 7:59 am

          High Hopes

          bless you. You mention that you have been abused on your way to church. I – an Australian, in a part of Australia as yet little touched by the HIjra, by creeping Islamisation – honour your faithfulness and bravery in continuing to *go* to church, in such an environment of menace. (Does your parish priest understand what is happening? that you are all being subjected to Jihad? Do other parishioners understand? Is there a prayer group praying and fasting for the liberation of London, and of Britain, from dhimmitude and from Jihad… and putting pressure on the proper authorities, to man up and *do their job*, which is to *restrain evil*?)

          Do you know of Gavin Boby, and his “Law and Freedom Foundation”. Have you heard of Sam Solomon’s excellent book “Al Hijra”, which describes the process by which Muslims have brought Britain to its current pass? (And which has been used to destroy many many other places, in the past).

          I would encourage you to visit a site called “New English Review”. Mr Spencer’s friend and colleague ‘Hugh Fitzgerald’ is one of the contributors and founding members and helped establish the ‘tone’.

          http://www.newenglishreview.org

          One of the regular contributors and commenters, “Esmerelda Weatherwax”, would surely like to hear from you. She *knows* and loves London.

          Perhaps you could write – just taking care to protect anonymity, for safety’s sake – about your and your fellow infidels’ experiences in an Islamised part of London. It might help to wake up the as-yet-uninformed and unaware.

          Welcome to the ad hoc and de facto and multinational “Order of the Phoenix”. I and others here will hope to hear from you again in future.

        • Ballantine1979 says

          Feb 9, 2017 at 7:12 pm

          I’m astonished that James Baron sees nothing wrong with rants like

          “We must become the enemies that sow terror in their hearts so that laws like C-51 shredded away.”

          It’s like Muslims don’t even need to camouflage their rhetoric anymore to fool Western naifs like Baron; he’s so determined to think the best of them, he’s like the “see-no-evil, hear-no-evil” monkey. And yet he’s quite able, isn’t he, to see the evil in his own fellow non-Muslim citizens. Selective perception.

    • maghan says

      Feb 7, 2017 at 2:41 am

      No one is born Muslim. The Islamic ideology is imposed on the blank minds of the young by parents and the controlling environment. So anyone who once the age of consciousness is attained and continues to embrace Islam is a potential agent for all the crimes and anti-human diktats that one finds in the Qur’an, Hadith and Sira. That is why when a dormant Muslim decides to follow the faith in practice, everyone is shocked–including parents.

      The logical solution to the issue of Islam is for its erstwhile believers to just reject the whole Bronze Age nonsense in the name of human rationality. Question: what is the rational basis to embrace Islam if one is human with a brain that can think in human terms? If racists are always requested to change their inculcated views then so too should Muslims be persuaded to give up on their primitive and nonsensical beliefs that recommend murder, rape, slavery, and plunder.

      Axiom: A “peaceful” Muslim is a potentially violent and murderous one. Why this axiom? If one claims to be Muslim then one must necessarily embrace the Qur’an which recommends murder, rape, plunder and slavery.

      On the issue of violence the statistics on Muslim violence speak for themselves. That’s why airports force travelers to submit to degrading security checks all the time.

      • James Baron says

        Feb 7, 2017 at 2:52 am

        “No one is born Muslim. The Islamic ideology is imposed on the blank minds of the young by parents and the controlling environment. So anyone who once the age of consciousness is attained and continues to embrace Islam is a potential agent for all the crimes and anti-human diktats that one finds in the Qur’an, Hadith and Sira. That is why when a dormant Muslim decides to follow the faith in practice, everyone is shocked–including parents.”

        It’s true they are born without this knowledge. However, it’s strange that you mention that they could commit crimes when a white person just killed six of them and that’s what this protest is about.

        “The logical solution to the issue of Islam is for its erstwhile believers to just reject the whole Bronze Age nonsense in the name of human rationality. Question: what is the rational basis to embrace Islam if one is human with a brain that can think in human terms? If racists are always requested to change their inculcated views then so too should Muslims be persuaded to give up on their primitive and nonsensical beliefs that recommend murder, rape, slavery, and plunder.”

        a) When you say murder, rape, and slavery, it’s easy to say that a very tiny percentage of them believe in that.
        b) A greater percentage believe in non-violent Islamic based laws
        c) Still a very small percentage in Canada are fundamentalist

        This is like saying that all Christians, and there’s a lot in Canada and The United States, believe in stoning gay people.

        Axiom: A “peaceful” Muslim is a potentially violent and murderous one. Why this axiom? If one claims to be Muslim then one must necessarily embrace the Qur’an which recommends murder, rape, plunder and slavery.

        As a scientist, I can assure you that your understanding of the word axiom is incorrect. You mean theorem, but even that is incorrect.

        An axiom is something that doesn’t need to be explained. If the concept of religion needs to be understood before your axiom involving Muslims, then it’s not an axiom.

        Axiom: x+0 = x

        You’re just using the word axiom because you think if you use the word axiom, then no one can disagree with your opinion which is not a theorem.

        From now on, why don’t I just say everything I believe is an axiom, thus you are wrong.

        “On the issue of violence the statistics on Muslim violence speak for themselves. That’s why airports force travelers to submit to degrading security checks all the time.”

        Three people have been killed by Muslims in Canada in the last 20 years. Thousands of assaults have occurred against Muslims in Canada. Six people were just murdered by a white supremacist.

        • PRCS says

          Feb 7, 2017 at 12:09 pm

          “It’s true they {Muslims} are born without this knowledge. However, it’s strange that you mention that they could commit crimes {in the name of Islam} when a white person just killed six of them and that’s what this protest is about.”

          1. That’s obviously NOT the sole purpose of that protest.
          2. Did the individual murder them because he’s white?
          3. I may have missed the confession, so, what reason has he given for the murders?

        • Graham says

          Feb 7, 2017 at 5:09 pm

          “Thousands of assaults have occurred against Muslims in Canada”? Do you have a source for this? If this is true, and they were actual hate crimes related to religion, I would be very surprised.

        • gravenimage says

          Feb 8, 2017 at 8:15 pm

          James Baron wrote:

          This is like saying that all Christians, and there’s a lot in Canada and The United States, believe in stoning gay people.
          …………………………

          Actually, no it’s not. There is nothing in the Bible enjoining Christians to stone gay people–in fact, the only reference to stoning in the New Testament is Jesus very pointedly *not* stoning a woman accused of adultery.

          There is, in fact, *no* history of Christians stoning gay people.

          Would that we could say the same of forced marriage and child marriage, and robbing and terrorizing Infidels in Islam–all of which are core parts of that creed, and all on the model of the “Prophet” Muhammed.

      • James Baron says

        Feb 7, 2017 at 3:09 am

        Here’s a dangerous Muslim:

        http://www.cbc.ca/news/thank-you-for-much-syrian-girl-s-first-canada-day-1.3661806

        • gravenimage says

          Feb 8, 2017 at 8:41 pm

          The clear implication is that if this one Muslim is not dangerous, that ergo it is ridiculous to suggest that any Muslims are dangerous, even those threatening to kill you.

          Did this poster say that he grasps rational scientific principles? Given the above, that appears unlikely.

    • bernie says

      Feb 7, 2017 at 7:15 am

      JAMES: I understand that in 2006, the Canadian government under Harper foiled a jihad plot to blow up truck bombs in Toronto and Ottawa, and to murder Harper. Therecwas also the attack in Ottawa a couple years ago.

      • James Baron says

        Feb 7, 2017 at 7:26 am

        That attack in Ottawa killed 2 of the 3 that I mentioned.

  25. AreYouSerious says

    Feb 7, 2017 at 1:59 am

    I am not at all interested in over throwing our goverment system. Right now it is chaotic enough here. If there is no government system in place it would be total chaos especially with all the crazies running around in the world. Honestly he wants to let all of the people out of prison? Who needs more murderers, pedophiles and rapists running around. I agree our government system isn’t perfect but come on without it we would be killing each other in no time. Anyone who is cheering for this guy needs to seriously take a moment and imagine the world idea he is presenting. It would be a country wide massacre and nothing less. It would be death and destruction fuelled by hate. Anybody that is spouting hate speech isn’t somebody worth listening to. I don’t care if they are white, brown, black, purple or green. Hate isn’t the answer for anything. Hate speech towards anyone isn’t solving anything it only creates a bigger problem. There hasn’t been any single time in history that hate has solved a problem. Hate is hate pure and simple. On that note I will say that anyone who is condoning such behaviour needs to ask themselves why. Why would you fight hate with hate? If anyone can answer that for me it would be greatly apppreciated. I can’t seem to wrap my head around this mentality.

    • gravenimage says

      Feb 8, 2017 at 9:04 pm

      How is opposing things like child rape, forced marriage, and the overthrow of democracy “hate”? I believe one can “hate” an ideology like Fascism or Islam without morally compromising themselves. In fact, why would any decent person look favorably on such destructive ideas?

      I don’t believe that those opposing the Nazis seventy years ago were engaged in “hate”–instead, they were standing up for democracy.

      • AreYouSerious says

        Feb 9, 2017 at 3:05 pm

        You are reading into my statement and assuming I am calling you hateful for opposing child marriage and whatever other vile things you listed. Which isn’t the case so cool your jets. I am a Conservative Christian that believes in traditional values so relax before you come at me all fired up. I am stating on the article itself and how the speaker is clearly practicing hate speech towards the government that is feeding him and sheltering him. Now he is angry because he has been wronged in his life by hate… apparently. That is what he is implying anyway and his response is to destroy the system that is coddling him. That was what I was saying. I have learned my lesson though seems people just want to argue. But don’t look around and think everyone is the enemy.

        • gravenimage says

          Feb 9, 2017 at 7:02 pm

          OK, AreYouSerious.

  26. Baucent says

    Feb 7, 2017 at 2:48 am

    Wake up time for the Left. This is naked Islamism, where you have no part , unless you submit to Allah.

  27. Baucent says

    Feb 7, 2017 at 3:19 am

    Use your scientific head Baron, a rising and growing muslim population will lead to what? Less violent attacks inspired by the muslim holy book or more? Every western nation that has seen a rising percentage of muslims in the population since 2001, has seen an increase in terrorist attacks and plots discovered and prevented. The common inspiration and motivating factor is found in the writings of the Koran. Only a fool would deny that link. Compare the statistics of Buddhist living in Western nations since 2001. How many terrorist acts or plots were committed by Buddhists? Now why the difference? I’ll tell you, there are no Buddhist teachings that could inspire killing of non-believers. The problem is with one religion called Islam.

    • James Baron says

      Feb 7, 2017 at 3:25 am

      It won’t lead to much. In fact, the Muslims who come here will have children who will be educated in the Canadian school system who will have Canadian values and still be pacified by peaceful relition.

      If you’re going to compare it to another religion, compare it to a state-supported religion like Catholicism. There are actually government provided Catholic and Protestant provided schools in Canada.
      Christianity also provides for murder and other “barbaric practices” like slavery.

      Why isn’t that happening? Same reason it’s not happening by Muslims in Canada.

      • Lesley says

        Feb 7, 2017 at 6:20 am

        No one has been beheaded, “In the name of Jesus” by someone following Biblical directive. Most of the violence in the Bible’s Old Testament is descriptive, not prescriptive as in the timeless commands of the Koran and Hadith.

        The prescriptive violence remaining in the Bible has been overridden by the West’s reformations and cultural evolution.

        I urge you to read Islamic texts for yourself.

        Can you find the Golden Rule in Islamic texts (do unto others as you would have them do unto you)?

        Please direct us to the love thy neighbor passages (that can’t be abrogated) in the Koran. How many sword verses will you come across on your search?

        The ideology of Islam creates the chaos that the refugees are fleeing. No matter how they may enjoy Canada Day, they will bring the same problem to your country if the cling even nominally to Islam.

        What is taqiyya? Who is called the best of deceivers in Islam?

        Islam has (By Dr. Bill Warner’s estimation– also a scientist, a physicist I believe) has caused the death of something like 270 million in the last 1400 years.

        How many have killed in the name of Allah in just the last 15 years?

        As always, I HOPE I’m wrong… James Baron, you’re in for a rude awakening with what’s just beginning in Canada. Good luck!

        • James Baron says

          Feb 7, 2017 at 7:21 am

          No one has been beheaded in the name of Jesus? That’s a joke right? Jesus was crucified in his own name. Three million people died in the centuries after in the crusades. It still continues in some countries to this day.

          The bible recommends stoning, removing limbs.

          The Golden Rule, which has nothing to do with this conversation, is not exclusively Christian and there IS something of the ilk in the Koran.

          How many have they killed in the name of Allah in Canada in the last 15 years? 3.

      • Baucent says

        Feb 7, 2017 at 8:22 am

        You have avoided my point that only Islam, as directed in the koran and hadiths encourages killing of non believers (infidels, kuffers) by the followers of Islam. Have you even read the Koran you so vigorously defend? An objective scientist, if that’s what you are, would examine those books. But I don’t believe you are objective at all.

        • James Baron says

          Feb 7, 2017 at 8:43 am

          Yes. Thousands. Thousands of hate assaults on Muslim victims.

          As for the definition of an attack, I was mainly talking physical, but there is also the structural violence from people like you.

          Sorry, my argument was only about Canada and this man in particular. The crux of my argument is that Islam is not dangerous in Canada and that this man is not calling for violence.

  28. dumbledoresarmy says

    Feb 7, 2017 at 7:02 am

    Above, ‘james baron’ cites the recent shooting in the mosque in Canada, as proof that Muslims are more at risk from non-Muslims in Canada, than the other way around.

    I quote – “…a white person killed six Muslims, which far exceeds the number of Canadians killed by Muslims on our own soil,”

    Note the weaselwording ‘on our own soil’.

    Because… on September 11 2001 *twenty-four Canadians*, including a Christian Copt who had come to Canada from Egypt, fleeing the relentless discrimination and outright persecution inflicted on the indigenous Coptic Christians by the Arab or Arabised Muslims there, were KILLED BY MUSLIMS.

    That they were not killed *in Canada* itself, does not alter the fact that Muslims waging jihad murdered 24 Canadians.

    I wonder whether he knows just how many Canadian infidels are *only* alive today because the RCMP, and others, by ceaseless vigilance plus a dollop of luck (including cooperation from a very un-Islamic Muslim – un-Islamic because orthodox Muslims are NOT supposed to side with Infidels, against their own – see Quran 48.29 and the principle called ‘al wala wa al-baraa) managed to foil a planned mass-murderous jihad attack that was being plotted by a bunch of young Muslims called “the Toronto 16”.

    The plot was hatched in 2006, and came to trial in 2010.

    Here’s a summary of what the plotters intended to do (courtesy of wikipedia):

    “…They were accused of planning to detonate truck bombs, to open fire in a crowded area, and to storm the Canadian Broadcasting Centre, the Canadian Parliament building, the Canadian Security Intelligence Service (CSIS) headquarters, and the parliamentary Peace Tower to take hostages **and to behead the Prime Minister and other leaders.** (my emphasis – dda).

    See that? – they planned **to behead the Prime Minister of Canada**.

    The death toll would have been a LOT bigger than a mere six people, had Canadian homeland security and law enforcement not been ‘on the ball’ – and lucky – and arrested them before they got very far.

    Then, too, a *lot* of Canadians might have been killed, on another occasion, right inside the Parliament of Canada itself, had not one man with a weapon been in the right place, at the right time, to shoot the jihadi who, having shot down – and killed – a young unarmed Canadian soldier at the Cenotaph, then **entered the parliament building**.

    From a wiki list of terrorism in Canada.

    October 22, 2014 – Michael Zehaf-Bibeau, **a convert to Islam**, fatally shot Corporal Nathan Cirillo, a Canadian soldier on ceremonial sentry duty at the Canadian National War Memorial in Ottawa, and then forced his way into Canada’s parliament building, where he had a shootout with parliament security personnel. He was shot 31 times and died at the scene. Zehaf-Bibeau made a video prior to the attack in which he expressed his motives as being related “to Canada’s foreign policy and in respect of his religious beliefs.”

    In the same month, only two days previously, *another* convert to Islam had attacked two Canadian infidel cops.

    I quote – “October 20, 2014 – On October 20, 2014, two Canadian Forces members were hit by Martin Couture-Rouleau, a recent Muslim convert in what is known as the 2014 Saint-Jean-sur-Richelieu ramming attack. Warrant officer Patrice Vincent died of his injuries. Couture-Rouleau was eventually gunned down and killed.”

    James Baron may, perhaps, respond that these two cold-blooded Muslim murderers of Canadian infidels were “not real Muslims”, because they were converts to Islam who didn’t understand the real Islam. But if so, I would say he was evading the issue… in any case, very often adult converts to *any* belief system tend to ‘go by the book’; they are **unlikely** to be merely nominal in their adherence, knowledge and practice.

    There was another mass-murder plots, aimed at civilians, that would have had a huge death toll, if not foiled, but would not have ‘gone off’ on Canadian soil – Ahmed Ressam, the ‘Millennium Bomber’, who had explosives in his car as part of a plot to bomb the LA International Airport on New Year’s Eve 1999.

    The other was a plot to derail – on the Canadian side of the border – a New York-Toronto train. Two Muslims, one based in Toronto, one in Montreal, were hatching this plot.

    There is something else, of course: and that is the ‘honor’ murders of Muslim girls by their own Muslim families, by their fathers or by other Muslim males, that have taken place in Canada.

    One was Aqsa Parvez, murdered by her Muslim father, because she wouldn’t wear the headscarf and was in other ways becoming too much like the evil Kuffar.

    There was also the Shafia family murder. Four women – a Muslim man’s first wife, and his three daughters by his second wife – were all murdered by that Muslim man, with the collusion of his second wife and his son.

    So that is four ‘Canadians’ (Muslim) murdered .. not by ‘right wing whites’ but by their *fellow Muslims* and indeed by *family members*.

    And then there was the murder of Bano Shahdady, by her own husband, in 2011.

    And James Baron can try to pass those off as mere ‘domestic violence’ and engage in whataboutery, but Phyllis Chesler (a redoubtable feminist who has no illusions about how badly women can be treated in our own society) has done a number of studies that show, very clearly, that ‘honor murders’ – deliberate, organised family executions of deemed-recalcitrant females – are NOT the same kind of thing as the domestic violence that occurs in western countries. They arise from a profoundly alien cultural paradigm; and like it or not, the fact is, 91 percent of ‘honor murders’ are done by Muslims, both within the dar al Islam and abroad.

    I wonder whether ‘James Baron’ (if not a Musilm in a mask, trying to run interference), has ever bothered to read the Quran, or the Sira, or any of the Hadiths, let alone Al Qaradawi’s book on Sharia, “The Lawful and the Prohibited in Islam”?

    Has he ever read any of the books or articles written by apostates from Islam? – Nonie Darwish, Hannah Shah, Daniel Shayesteh, Ibn Warraq, Wafa Sultan, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, Taslima Nasreen, Magdi Allam? Because they do not represent Islam as peaceful and benign, nothing to worry about. Not at all.

    I wonder if he’s ever heard of Sam Solomon – a Canada-resident apostate, author of “Al Hijra: The Islamic Doctrine of Immigration”? It makes for very bleak reading; and it is full of direct quotes from orthodox Islamic writings, past and present.

    Bottom line is: Got Muslims? Got Jihad.

    If James Baron wishes to deny that, whether out if ignorance and naivety, or out of a deliberate evil intent, then he is denying reality.

    • James Baron says

      Feb 7, 2017 at 7:25 am

      The weasel wording “on our own soil”. That’s where I stopped reading.

      Yes. On our own soil. This isn’t happening in Canada. When we take in refugees, they are peaceful.

      • dumbledoresarmy says

        Feb 7, 2017 at 7:48 am

        If not a Mohammedan in a mask, you are wilfully refusing even to *think* about what people are saying here.

        All those people responding to you are from many different countries.

        All of us have read the Quran. Many have read the *rest* of the ‘trilogy’ – the all-important Sira and the sahih Hadiths.

        Most of us have read much, much more besides.

        BTW, above you claimed that Christianity ‘provides for murder’. Where? Where in the Gospels does Jesus incite murder/?? Or where in the Epistles does St Paul or St Peter or St James instruct to *kill*??

        You *are* aware that the Ten Commandments contain the command “you shall not commit murder”???

        Also, you claimed that the Bible recommends stoning. In the most archaic portion of the Old Testament, yes.

        You *are* however aware that modern Orthodox Jews *do not stone people to death* (nor has stoning been practised by Jews for a long, long, long, long time and I do not see even the most striclty orthodox Jew calling for a revival of the practice) and that Christianity has NEVER taught stoning… because of that pesky passage in John 8, where Jesus *prevents* a stoning, telling the accused woman only “go, and sin no more”. Which contrasts dramatically with the Islamic textual account of Mohammed, who *commanded* and *supervised* the stoning to death of ‘adulterers’.

        As for Slavery: there has never been a William Wilberforce. The institution of slavery, the practice of slavery, was condemned by a Christian preacher quite explicitly as long ago as the fourth century; and you cannot deny that evangelical Christians were very, very active in the – western-based – movement to abolish slavery. Jesus himself *never* owned even one slave. Mohammed, on the other hand, was a slave trader and slave raider, and slavery *continues* in some Muslim countries to this very day; it was *only* abolished in Muslim countries under *heavy* external pressure from non-Muslim powrs.

        And as for ‘removing limbs”: newsflash, I know the *entire* OT, I have read the whole Bible, and there is NOTHING In the Bible even faintly comparable to the Sharia punishment for theft, to wit, amputation of limbs. The *Biblical* punishment for theft is that… the thief shall pay back what he stole. NO mention of cutting off of hands, etc.

        If yoiu claim that the Bible commands the removal of hands and feet as punishment for crimes, you are WRONG. Or else you are deliberately LYING.

        Which is it, mate?

        (The *only* passage you could possibly be referencing is a passage that is ***quite manifetly intended to be purely figurative*** and has to do with **SELF-discipline** NOT with laws to be applied either by the community or by the State).

        As for your claim that there is something ‘of the ilk’ of the Golden Rule in the Quran: NONSENSE.

        Ever read Surah 48.29?? You should. Not to mention tha many, many other verses, not only in the Quran but elsewhere, that tell Muslims, over and over, that they must not befriend or ally with non-Muslims, qua non-Muslims.

        Ali Sina says there is NO Golden Rule in Islam. He is an apostate from Islam. He lived inside the belief system for years. I think that – unless you are a mohammedan in a mask, dissembling in order to deceive, for the protection of Islam from infidel scrutiny – he knows what Islam is all about, much better than you do.

        • dumbledoresarmy says

          Feb 7, 2017 at 7:51 am

          Correction to the above. When I wrote – “As for Slavery: there has never been a William Wilberforce” what I *intended* to write was “As for Slavery: there has never been a Muslim equivalent of William Wilberforce.”

        • James Baron says

          Feb 7, 2017 at 7:52 am

          http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/c1/c14e1ffedc077468eb7d71b060ed93936c424c1ea73dcd4e35ab9315e16b0182.jpg

          Sorry. Too many fans.

        • James Baron says

          Feb 7, 2017 at 7:52 am

          It’s okay. You don’t have to issue corrections. Won’t be reading.

        • Baucent says

          Feb 7, 2017 at 8:37 am

          “dumbledoresarmy”, you have just totally destroyed James Baron’s argument. Completely and utterly vanquished Mr Baron. When someone starts writing “I won’t read any further” you know they know they have lost. Very unscientific response Mr Baron.

        • James Baron says

          Feb 7, 2017 at 8:50 am

          Yup. Vanquished it with name calling and terrible rhetoric.
          Not to mention the length of it and the people I have to respond to. Break your argument up and keep it polite and I’ll read it.

          Want to talk about scientific responses, Baucent? There is no correlation between someone not reading something and it “vanquishing” someone else’s argument. That would be a fallacious conclusion.

        • gravenimage says

          Feb 7, 2017 at 8:03 pm

          Fine posts, Dumbledore’s Army.

  29. dumbledoresarmy says

    Feb 7, 2017 at 7:59 am

    P.S. Above, ‘James Baron’ trotted out, as such Islamopologists and whatabouters generally do, the ‘Crusades’.

    He ignores the fact that they were an ad hoc, rather disorganised and much-delayed **defensive** response to some **four hundred** years of unrelenting and merciless mass-murderous Mohammedan Jihad, in the course of which many indigenous north africa and middle eastern Christian – and Jewish – populations had been violently subjugated and indeed, in some cases, wiped out.

    Muslims attacked and invaded Spain, Portugal, what is now Malta, southern Italy, southern France. Muslims invaded and occupied Christian Egypt and the rest of Christianised North Africa. Muslims attacked Byzantium. (Muslims also attacked and conquered Persia, and its origianl Zoroastrian, Christian and Jewish presence was virtually destroyed. Muslims, by the time of the first Crusade, were busy invading parts of India, robbing, pillaging, raping, mass-murdering Hindus and Buddhists).

    Ohhhhh, the pooor little persecuted Muslims, attacked out of the blue by the EEEEVIL Christians, when they were just peacefully minding their own business… NOT.

    If not for the defensive responses of many western Infidels down through the centuries – from Charles Martels at Tours, right on through (notable engagements being at Malta in 1565, Lepanto in 1571, and most importantly of all, Vienna in 1683, but also the rising up and self-liberation of the indigenous infidels in Portugal, Spain, and then later on, Greece and Hungary and Bulgaria) – all of western Europe would have been gobbled up by jihad long ago, and we would all be living in miserable sharia hellholes, either as soul-dead Mohammedans, or as exploited abused, degraded and humilated dhimmis.

    I wonder whether James Baron wishes that the Crusades had *failed*.

    Does he wish that his own forebears had been conquered by Muslims?

    More: does he wish that the Muslim Turks had *won* at Vienna in 1683? Does he regret that the Greeks threw off the Muslim Ottoman yoke of iron, and put an end to the horrible practice of the devshirme?

    • James Baron says

      Feb 7, 2017 at 8:02 am

      I “trotted” out something you think is a false correlation. But this isn’t happening in Canada so you’re also presenting a false correlation.

      • dumbledoresarmy says

        Feb 7, 2017 at 8:11 am

        go right ahead.

        Keep on pretending that there is no Global Jihad going on, both by means of outright violence and by other instruments.

        If you are a Muslim in a mask then you know damn well that there *is* a Jihad going on and you are here merely in order to attempt to run interference for it, via what might be called ‘jihad of the keyboard’ (to update the ‘jihad of the pen’).

        If you are an uninformed – WILFULLY uninformed – Infidel, then you will, sooner or later, and probably rather unpleasantly, discover that you are wrong, and that there *is* a Jihad, and that you, qua infidel, are its target, along with all the rest of us.

        Just because Canada hasn’t had a 9/11 or a Bataclan or a Nice-scale mass murderous jihad attack *yet* doesn’t mean that it won’t, in future.

        Sooner or later the Ummah, in Canada, when it feels itself strong enough to ‘go for the kill’,, WILL.

        • James Baron says

          Feb 7, 2017 at 8:21 am

          I don’t pretend. I use science and math and I don’t make crazy predictions.

          You can call me names if you like. Doesn’t make you right.

  30. dumbledoresarmy says

    Feb 7, 2017 at 8:06 am

    ‘James Baron’, by the nature and tone of his comments above, is either an out-and-out troll stirring sh*t for fun, and caring not a jot about anything much, or else he is a Muslim in a mask.

    He responded to another poster by contemptuously refusing to use her proper username, instead shortening it to ‘megs’.

    I think that tells us volumes about the way he views people here.

    He has come here to sneer at us and to try to bait us.

    Nasty piece of work, altogether.

    • James Baron says

      Feb 7, 2017 at 8:16 am

      lol. I called her megs as a friendly gesture. She actually seemed to be somewhat level headed. But that’s a great pull. You can’t attack my argument so you attack something absurd like that?

      Who’s the one attacking people and not the argument again? Everything you said is pretty hypocritical.

  31. dumbledoresarmy says

    Feb 7, 2017 at 8:31 am

    James Baron claimed that there had been “thousands” of attacks upon Muslims, by non-Muslim Canadians, in Canada.

    Really? **Thousands**. I don’t believe it. It’s bizarre.

    Had there been *thousands* of outright attacks, it *would* have been discussed here, just as the Quebec shooting *was* discussed.

    I would like to know, first, what is Mr Baron’s definition of an ‘attack’. I would define an ‘attack’ as an act of violence committed upon the person that causes actual medicaly-certified physical harm, and qualify for police investigation leading to arrests and court cases; I would also list it as acts of violent and substantial damage to property, such as qualify for police investigation.

    Because when *we* here speak of Muslim attacks on infidels that is primarily what we mean. If we say Copts are attacked in Egypt we mean *attacked* – beaten, robbed, raped, kidnapped, h eld-to-ransom, murdered. Things that cause actual harm to persons. One could include also major damage to property – burning down of a church or home or business, perhaps accompanied by robbery. In the dar al Islam such attacks are often carried out not by an individual but by large mobs openly incited to violence, even by incitements blaring from mosque loudspeakers.

    Can our ‘James Baron’ adduce ‘thousands’ of attacks of *that* sort and on that scale – actual damage to person or property, requiring medical attention (person) or expensive repairs (property), happening to Muslims, in Canada, that have come before the courts??

    Looking at someone funny in the street, or putting bacon on a mosque doorknob, does NOT qualify as an attack.

    • Baucent says

      Feb 7, 2017 at 8:42 am

      He’s a troll, but you destroyed his argument as you know the subject Islam better than he does. Start quoting the Koran and he has nowhere to go.

    • gravenimage says

      Feb 8, 2017 at 9:11 pm

      Yes–notice that James Baron keeps repeating that there have been thousands of attacks on Muslims in Canada, yet has not been able to cite any cases. Like so many, he hopes if he simply repeats something often enough, that others will start to believe it.

      • SK says

        Feb 9, 2017 at 12:10 am

        http://globalnews.ca/news/2634032/hate-crimes-against-muslim-canadians-more-than-doubled-in-3-years/

        Best I could find.

        • gravenimage says

          Feb 9, 2017 at 7:09 pm

          It looks like the best they could come up with is some graffiti reading “Syrians go home and Die”. Given how many of these cases turn out to have been faked by Muslims themselves, even this is questionable.

  32. Baucent says

    Feb 7, 2017 at 8:53 am

    ” The crux of my argument is that Islam is not dangerous in Canada” So said James Baron.

    So Islam in Canada he believes is different to Islam in other countries? You have some sort of ISLAM-LITE version there do you?

    • James Baron says

      Feb 7, 2017 at 9:30 am

      Nope. Just this thing called science. Maybe it’s a hard c like skyence.

      • Baucent says

        Feb 7, 2017 at 7:42 pm

        pathetic.

    • SK says

      Feb 9, 2017 at 12:51 am

      What science? I believe in refugees, but Canada has violent Muslims, and Muslims who preach violence. CSIS, the RCMP, and such are part of the reason why there aren’t more attacks.

      We have people like the Larmond brothers, the guy who attacked a Toronto Police recruitment centre ( it was a knife attack), Kabir Abdul, and Aaron Driver, if you are looking for actual violence and plots, and not just theory.

      People like Ismael Habib hold similar views, but run off to join ISIL.

      I like the idea of allowing Muslims who are opposed to violence into Canada, some come because of economic desperation. ISIL is only really interested in Syrians as a prop, and I like the idea of helping people out of bad situations. Sadly, I believe that there’s a risk of a Muslim ending up with a different view of certain subjects than when his family came, or whenever they converted. I don’t know if my view is very similar to JW commentators, and Trump would perceive my views as “weak” on immigration .

      • marc says

        Feb 9, 2017 at 2:51 am

        @SK “I don’t know if my view is very similar to JW commentators, and Trump would perceive my views as “weak” on immigration”

        Personally, I’d welcome any law abiding ex-muslim who freely renounces islam, and I would actively promote the refuge here of any Yazidis or Christian from the ME, as their genocide is imminent.

        • gravenimage says

          Feb 9, 2017 at 7:17 pm

          +1

  33. G says

    Feb 7, 2017 at 11:13 am

    Toronto Muslim speaker: “We must celebrate our way of life…until their way of life dissipates under our feet”. He could have added, “…..when the money runs out”. Then they will really be on their own having taken Canda down a road that destroys business and renders the whole country a second rate Pakistan.

  34. Bagger says

    Feb 7, 2017 at 4:11 pm

    Well,
    That pretty much confirms the facts on some of the islamic terrorists way of life… Everyone else is inferior. Even civilized law abiding muslim peoples.

    I say we send this guy back to where he came from or if born here then put him in jail for inciting terror acts against the Canadian people – whatever religion you are. Blooming idiot..

  35. Dum Spiro says

    Feb 7, 2017 at 8:39 pm

    Canadians, do you see any similarity here between these two on camera events?:

    A man in Toronto days ago:


    A man in the United Kingdom:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfBXxsxKbso</b

    Canadians, you realize that certain immigration conditions in the UK (e.g., compare the Rotherham rape gangs with the Montreal rapist for one egregious example) could be a preview of what you may be seeing in Canada soon…
    — Spero

    • Dum Spiro says

      Feb 7, 2017 at 8:44 pm

      A man in the United Kingdom (just a few years ago):


      You do see what is happening…
      — Spero

    • Dum Spiro says

      Feb 7, 2017 at 10:36 pm

      Here is a National Post article:

      http://www.nationalpost.com/m/wp/full-comment/blog.html?b=news.nationalpost.com/full-comment/barbara-kay-how-long-until-my-honest-criticism-of-islamism-constitutes-a-speech-crime-in-canada

      Who stands on guard for Thee, O Canada? (Car ton bras sait porter l’épée, Il sait porter la croix. +) All thy sons in whom is commanded true patriot love in their home and native land?
      — Spero

  36. Peter Clemerson says

    Feb 8, 2017 at 6:10 am

    Just a small point. Islam allows polygyny (multiple wives for a man) rather than polygamy, which includes polygyny but also includes polyandry (multiple husbands for a woman). Islam would never l allow that. Use of the word polygyny rather than polygamy makes it clear that Islam treats women as unequal to men.

    • linnte says

      Feb 8, 2017 at 11:20 pm

      Excellent point! Polygyny it is!

  37. Peter Clemerson says

    Feb 8, 2017 at 6:10 am

    Just a small point. Islam allows polygyny (multiple wives for a man) rather than polygamy, which includes polygyny but also includes polyandry (multiple husbands for a woman). Islam would never allow that. Use of the word polygyny rather than polygamy makes it clear that Islam treats women as unequal to men.

  38. Jack Gabriel says

    Feb 8, 2017 at 11:00 am

    Killing people while praying is a crime regardless of religion or faith. But This screaming shrill loud mouth (from Pakistan) should also shout and condemn co-islamists around the world for atrocities committed in Islam name and with the blessings of his preachers, teachers of Hatred based on the book of Quran. Everyday muslims around the globe are threatening, bullying, torturing and killing Christians with not a whisper from the Islamic communities or any muslim individual, who are crying foul of the miserable treatment of the countries that they sought in the west or in North America escaping their homelands in Asia or the Middle East seeking liberty and freedom of expression as this foul mouth is demonstrating at the top of his voice. Canada’s Trudeau is doomed with the insane pacifist policy and open door immigration without integration unless this foolish Trudeau has in mind the future Islamization of Canada. Pakistan, Egypt, Sudan, Yemen, Syria, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Indonesia, Turkey and other Islamic countries all have Islamic edicts that grossly discriminate against mainly Christians where they exist and relegates them to third degree citizens.

    • gravenimage says

      Feb 8, 2017 at 9:17 pm

      Jack Gabriel wrote:

      Killing people while praying is a crime regardless of religion or faith.
      ………………………………….

      Alas, not in Islam, it’s not:

      “Hamas: ‘Killing Jews is worship that draws us close to Allah’”

      https://www.jihadwatch.org/2012/11/hamas-killing-jews-is-worship-that-draws-us-close-to-allah

      “He said that raping me is his prayer to God”

      https://www.jihadwatch.org/2015/08/he-said-that-raping-me-is-his-prayer-to-god

      More:

      But This screaming shrill loud mouth (from Pakistan) should also shout and condemn co-islamists around the world for atrocities committed in Islam name and with the blessings of his preachers, teachers of Hatred based on the book of Quran…
      ………………………………….

      Why would he condemn this? He is advocating the same thing. This is perfectly Islamic.

      You are right about the threat Islam presents to Canada, though.

  39. Champ says

    Feb 9, 2017 at 1:16 am

    ‘james baron’ sure is a drama queen … 😀

    • dumbledoresarmy says

      Feb 9, 2017 at 7:47 am

      Hard to tell whether he’s a/ a mere attention-seeking Internet Troll who couldn’t care less what we’re discussing and just wants to stir up trouble by being contrary or b/ a thoroughly-well-conditioned Dhimmi/ Islamophile/ Useful Idiot who truly, truly believes that Muslims are innocent and Jihad isn’t happening and that he must therefore defend the poor persecuted Muslims, or else c/ a Mohammedan in a mask, pretending to be what he ain’t, and busy throwing sand to try to confuse anyone in the audience who hasn’t yet done their homework.

      I do find it curious that, as far as I can recall, this is the *only* thread on which he has chosen to comment.

      I don’t recall seeing any comments by him in any other threads in the past month (unless, of course, his submitted comments elsewhere have been so egregiously awful that they have either run foul of the spam filters, or have been dealt with personally by Marc himself, as being simply beyond the pale).

      So the question arises: IF this is the only jihadwatch thread on which this person has commented or attempted to comment… why *this* thread?

      If he were a simple troll with no particular real interest in the topic under discussion, one would assume any thread would be as good as any other, for the game of attempting to yank people’s chains/ press hot buttons. (And a troll of *that* kind could turn up on *any* kind of forum with a subject that has a controversial ‘edge’, not just a forum dealing with Islam and the jihad).

      I’d dearly like to know whether he *is* a Canadian as he purports to be.

      We haven’t had a Dementor of this kind stop by for quite a while.

      Again, if he isn’t just a mere common-or-garden troll having fun yanking chains, but is a Dhimmi or an outright mohammedan… **why this thread, in particular**??

      What’s so special about *this* particular story, that it is necessary, at all costs, to try to obscure what it is showing us?

      • Champ says

        Feb 9, 2017 at 7:11 pm

        Excellent points, DDA!

    • gravenimage says

      Feb 9, 2017 at 7:00 pm

      Yes, Champ and DDA–hard to know if he is a Muslim in a mask, a dhimmi apologist, or just a garden-variety troll who likes to stir things up for no apparent reason.

      And I noticed that as well, DDA–I don’t think he has commented on any other story. He may well be what I have come to term a “drive by”–a troll who heavily spams a thread with his bile, then disappears.

      • Champ says

        Feb 9, 2017 at 7:12 pm

        Great comment, Graven!

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