Farouk Ismail said: “There is no compulsion in Islam. It’s up to the individual if they want to be a Muslim or not and each individual’s faith is a matter between them and God, no one else.”
This is outstandingly disingenuous. In reality, the death penalty for apostasy is part of Islamic law. It’s based on the Qur’an: “They wish you would disbelieve as they disbelieved so you would be alike. So do not take from among them allies until they emigrate for the cause of Allah. But if they turn away, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them and take not from among them any ally or helper.” (Qur’an 4:89)
A hadith depicts Muhammad saying: “Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him” (Bukhari 9.84.57). The death penalty for apostasy is part of Islamic law according to all the schools of Islamic jurisprudence.
This is still the position of all the schools of Islamic jurisprudence, both Sunni and Shi’ite. Sheikh Yusuf al-Qaradawi, the most renowned and prominent Muslim cleric in the world, has stated: “The Muslim jurists are unanimous that apostates must be punished, yet they differ as to determining the kind of punishment to be inflicted upon them. The majority of them, including the four main schools of jurisprudence (Hanafi, Maliki, Shafi’i, and Hanbali) as well as the other four schools of jurisprudence (the four Shiite schools of Az-Zaidiyyah, Al-Ithna-‘ashriyyah, Al-Ja’fariyyah, and Az-Zaheriyyah) agree that apostates must be executed.”
Qaradawi also once famously said: “If they had gotten rid of the apostasy punishment, Islam wouldn’t exist today.”
“Ilford father Faisal Bashir who claims he was forced to move house after renouncing Islam is calling for more action on hate crime,” by Lara Keay, East London & West Essex Guardian, February 15, 2017:
A MAN who claims he was forced to move house after renouncing his faith wants authorities to crack down on hate crime
Fasial Bashir, decided to stop practicing Islam in the summer of 2014 over claims the religion was too “hateful” and “sending out the wrong message”.
But when the 43-year-old stopped going to mosques in Ilford he claims he started getting harassment on a weekly basis.
The father-of-two said: “I heard religious people say things I couldn’t put up with any longer – it was all too hateful.
“These people knew I had become an atheist and soon enough my whole family was being harassed.
“At least once a week they would hang around near my house, shouting and swearing at me.
“I was called an apostate, a non-believer, I was told I had betrayed my God and my faith.”
“Sometimes they would even say things to my children – they are far too little to know what was happening, they were very frightened.”
Mr Bashir claims he would often call the police, but was told it was “just a nuisance” and was not a police matter until it was reported at least twice a month.
He said: “They always said they couldn’t really do anything because no physical altercation ever took place.
“But I’m not the kind of person to get violent with anybody.
“Also, it was always different people so they claimed they couldn’t log it as similar complaint.
“Eventually a police officer told me I should just move house to get away from it all.”
The mobile mechanic moved from Connaught Mews to Mayville Road with his wife, 11-year-old daughter, and eight-year-old son in June 2015.
He said: “We weren’t left with any other choice.
“It was very distressing for all of us, not to mention the inconvenience.
“I used to be able to walk my children to school, now I have to drive them every day.
“The new house is over a mile away, but they still managed to find us again.”
Mr Bashir claims the harassment has died down in recent months, but the risk of “something terrible happening” to non-Muslims in the community is still high.
He wants Redbridge Council and the Metropolitan Police to work together to better tackle alleged incidents of hate crime, with more time, money and energy dedicated to the cause.
He said: “My personal problem appears to have been solved for now, but it doesn’t mean it’s not still out there in society.
“Where there’s smoke there’s always fire.
“We need local authorities to investigate this kind of thing more thoroughly before something terrible happens.”
Chairman of the Ilford-based British Pakistani Christian Association (BPCA) Wilson Chowdhry is supporting Mr Bashir’s calls for action.
He said: “Sadly Faisal’s description of persecution is similar to that faced by many Muslims choosing to leave the faith who end up shunned by their community.
“Police and councils up and down the country just don’t understand the level of animosity people choosing to leave Islam can face.”
But chairman of the Federation of Redbridge Muslim Organisations (FORMO) Farouk Ismail said: “There is no compulsion in Islam.
“It’s up to the individual if they want to be a Muslim or not and each individual’s faith is a matter between them and God, no one else.
“I don’t think this is about religion, I think it’s the individuals involved being a bit silly.
“Maybe this man has had a family disagreement with these people or he’s anxious or destressed about something, so he’s decided to attribute it to him being an atheist.
“I think there’s also a lack of understanding about what Islam is because I go in and out of mosques in Ilford all the time and there is no hate preaching whatsoever.
“It just doesn’t exist.”…
jayell says
This case mirrors another in Bradford (W. Yorks) from some years ago involving a man called (I believe) Husain. In the Bradford case the victim had bricks through the window, or something similar, as well as the rest of it, and he was also advised to move house by a police officer who also advised him not to ‘behave like a crusader’ (strange phraseology for a British police officer?). However, the trouble followed him even after he had moved to an outlying ‘English’ suburb of Bradford, and in the last report I read he was in hospital after being shot in the kneecaps by our friendly followers of the Religion of Peace. He was apparently involved in a local C of E church, but the vicar according to a report was one of the usual one of the usual PC spineless appeasers and was as good as useless.
Now, Ilford in east London has become something of an islamic cesspit if not yet quite as bad as Bradford, so it is not surprising to hear this story. The celebrated Anjem Choudhury used to live there, and the place also gained some infamy for having a notorious Islamic school run by a character almost as auspicious as the Great Choudhury. It’s a disgusting place. The quote from the chairman of the Federation of Redbridge Muslim Organisations is priceless…..
“There is no compulsion in Islam.”…….“I don’t think this is about religion, I think it’s the individuals involved being a bit silly.”….”“I think there’s also a lack of understanding about what Islam is because I go in and out of mosques in Ilford all the time and there is no hate preaching whatsoever….
“It just doesn’t exist.”…
Yes, of course it doesn’t! And the moon is made of Edam cheese, Queen Boudica was my auntie, and the entire population of the UK was yesterday.
D J says
I believe the chap in Bradford was saved by some rather tougher Polish builders.
They didn’t like to see someone being beaten with a baseball bat.
We need more of the Polish type of immigrant.
jayell says
Just noticed a typo. I should have said “and the entire population of the UK was born yesterday” – well, obviously this person thinks we were. How else would we believe this claptrap?
Mirren10 says
“it just doesn’t exist”.
That’s really rather the point, isn’t it ? It ‘doesn’t exist’ for Mohammedans, because they don’t accept anything in the vile koran is hateful, or violent.
Kudos to Mr. Bashir. How utterly pusillanimous our police are;. If it had been a pious Muslim harassed by non-muslims, there would have been a phalanx of police cars down there, and arrests for ‘hate crimes’.
The police sicken me.
flow in says
> The police sicken me.
one has to wonder if the police have been taken over by the islamic faith
BC says
If a non Muslim did this to a Muslim he/she would be in jail and on charges the following day. There are two kinds of law for Muslims and for non Muslims
berserker says
Where is he going to go? These parasites are everywhere. If the Mohammedans don’t find him; then the Progressive will.
Spike1033 says
And well done for printing his picture AND his new address!
Mak says
Look at how condescendingly the article is worded. “He claims” — as if it’s a hard stretch to believe that Muslims would harass (or kill) an apostate. I don’t think it’s over for this guy.
Angemon says
Well, that did you expect him to say? Admit he’s behind it, or knows who is and does nothing to stop them?
davej says
The harassment and murder of apostates is one of the most despicable aspects (among many) of Islam. It proves that this is not a legitimate religion but instead a criminal, brainwashed death cult.
The Police should be protecting this man and arresting any who threaten him, but of course they won’t because they are cowed cowards.
Anne Smith says
When this nonsense first started in the time PM John Major the Muslims threatening Salman Rushdie with death were allowed to run riot. Major was too timid to crack down on them. If he had done so we would not be facing this stupidity today.
More Ham Ed says
Just my kind of post/article. I will heat up a nice ham & swiss and remind any JW visitor that, in 2013 according to even a left-leaning poll, more than 400 million muslims (lowercase be upon them) believe in the death penalty for leaving islam (lowercase be upon it), when you add up the populations of the muslim countries involved in the poll.
http://www.pewforum.org/2013/04/30/the-worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-beliefs-about-sharia/
NOT “tiny” NOT “a minority”.
FYI says
You know if you wish to abandon islam you don’t need to give up on God.
Read the Bible,starting with The New Testament..
Follow God’s commandments(which the koran disobeys…)
At least then you will have a different perspective on God.
And note well the Two Chief Commandments….
DP111 says
A BBC editor who selected an Islamic State sympathiser to feature in a documentary has been appointed as the corporation’s new head of religious programming.
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/02/25/new-bbc-head-religion-gave-islamist-extremists-platform/
dumbledoresarmy says
Two observations.
First: look at this man’s face, the face of a man who has *left* Islam. Compare it with the zombie look we see on the faces of so many active Mohammedans, whether ‘cradle Muslims’ or converts.
This is what happens to a human when they *leave* the Death Cult; they *come alive*.
Lights are on behind his eyes and there’s someone at home. Despite everything he’s been through, he’s obviously still *so much happier* as a human now that he’s given the infernal ‘allah’ the boot.
Second observation: my advice to all the former Muslims in the UK, like this guy – and there are plenty, but they are – surprise! surprise! – keeping a low profile in general: band together and.. PRESENT A PETITION TO THE QUEEN.
All these former Muslims, who are now Atheists, or Christians, or whatever (other possibilities are Buddhist, Hindu, or Zoroastrian, depending on ethnic background), need to *organise* and *publicly* present a Letter to the Queen, humbly requesting, as her most loyal subjects, succour and protection.
This letter should be 1/ posted and 2/ a copy should be presented by a large deputation of former Muslims, all together (with non-Muslim security persons hired for the occasion), at the gates of Buckingham Palace. Copies of the letter should be sent to the Prime Minister and Opposition Leader, and also sent to The Times and other major media outlets to be printed in advertisement form.
The idea is to broadcast, as publicly as possible, the parlous state of affairs in Britain: that many persons who leave Islam are **in danger**, physically in danger, that they are being harassed, threatened, and attacked, **right there in Britain**, and that the Authorities are NOT doing their (the Authorities’) job, which is (as per St Paul, Letter to the Romans) to *restrain evil*.
It will also draw attention to the Apostasy Law of Islam and how *strongly* it influences the behaviour of many, many declared Muslims within the UK.
If *hundreds* or even *thousands* of frightened Britain-resident Apostates *all* sign off on a Letter of Petition to the Queen and to the Parliament, begging for help and succour, which, as citizens and taxpayers (I’ll BET that these apostates from Islam are, for the most part, pulling their weight) they have *every* right to expect) and stating that they are in fear of their lives because of the Apostasy Law of Islam (and they should state chapter and verse of the Bukhari Hadith where Mohammed is held to have said, “If anyone changes his religion, kill him”), and this is done in such a way as to be impossible to ‘cover up’, then it *might* embarrass the UK Government into doing something… and it will *also* raise awareness of the general problem of Islam, and get ordinary British infidels – the as-yet-uninformed or misinformed – *thinking*.
R Cole says
Everyone’s afraid of upsetting [I mean radicalizing] Muslims – so if you leave Islam you’re on your own!!
If the hate crime sign had a big arrow attached – it wouldn’t be pointing in your direction.
No Leftist protests for you here! You said you left Islam – newsflash – you’re not a Muslim!
There’s no word for you – no social incentive to act on your behalf… with any urgency.
If someone was outside a Muslim’s house harassing the family – think of how different the response would be from the police. Then the newspaper – and likely the police give more authority to the local Muslim ‘federation’ – who sites [abrogated/ defunct] Islamic scripture, there’s no compulsion to Islam – knowing that most Muslims believe there should be death for those leaving Islam – and in several Islamic nations the sentence is carried out. Or more common are laws which prevent Muslims from legally leaving Islam.
In the UK a man was jailed for a year for putting a bacon sandwich in front of mosque – but as a non-Muslim this man can barely get his claims of being persecuted by Muslims taken seriously by the law enforcement.
In fact, preparations should be made for more people leaving Islam – and measures put in place as to how to keep them safe.
wakeup says
I have said it before there needs to be a sort of witness protection program for these people. If it were me I would change my name while I was at it and get a new passport and drivers licence in that name. Choose a name associated with Christianity in his native country and then if he is questioned or it came up in his new area he could just say he was baptised a christian but became an atheist they will pay much less attention to that.
Lastly I would ask him to consider reading the bible start with the New Testament go and talk to a vicar or a priest do an alpha course see how the world can be different become a Christian and be re born and have a new life in Jesus the one true LOVING God and savior.
Where this man is at the moment is like the man living in the graveyard possessed by demons Jesus came along and cast them out Jesus cares for us he does not want that life for us. I and I hope the rest of Jihad Watch will pray for you now.