We are constantly assured in the West that Sharia applies only to Muslims, not to non-Muslims. Reality, as is so often the case in such matters, is different.
“CRIME OF PASSION Couple are imprisoned in Abu Dhabi for sex before marriage after doctors discovered bride-to-be was PREGNANT,” by Brittany Vonow, The Sun, March 9, 2017:
A COUPLE have been arrested for having sex before marriage after police found out the woman was pregnant – with their family saying: “The only thing they did wrong was fall in love”.
Iryna Nohai was reportedly holidaying in Abu Dhabi with her partner Emlyn Culverwell when she started suffering stomach pains, with the 27-year-old quickly taken to hospital.
But when the local doctor realised that she was pregnant, and not married to her 29-year-old partner, he reported the couple to police, Netwerk 24 said.
The South African man and his Ukrainian fiancée have now been detained by police since January 29, with sex before marriage a criminal offence in the United Arab Emirates.
According to reports, the couple have not yet been charged.
Nohai could be charged with “Zina” – the Islamic term referred to unlawful sexual intercourse.
The couple’s family has since claimed that they had only just got engaged on January 27, two days before their arrest, with the pair having been dating for three years….
The distraught mum also said that the Ukrainian embassy was trying to seek permission for the couple to marry or be deported rather than having to stay in Dubai.
South Africa’s foreign ministry has reportedly said that it cannot help the couple as they are facing domestic UAE law.
Steve Klein says
OT:
Robert Spencer wrote: ‘Jews and Christians are “guilty” because they have not only rejected Muhammad as a prophet, but have also distorted the legitimate revelations they received from Allah. Because of that guilt, Islamic law dictates that Jews and Christians may live in Islamic states, but not as equals with Muslims….’
“The Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam (And the Crusades),” by Robert Spencer
‘Iranian Foreign Minister: Netanyahu distorting the Torah’
Netanyahu said before a reading of the Book of Esther that the Islamic Republic, as ancient Persia, is trying to destroy the Jewish people.
Ernie Singer, 12/03/17 22:51
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/226569
Iranian Foreign Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif attacked Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu on Sunday night, accusing him of distorting history. On Saturday night, Netanyahu said before a reading of the Book of Esther for the Purim holiday that the Islamic Republic, as ancient Persia, is trying to destroy the Jewish people. He said the same during an exchange of Purim greetings with Russian President Vladimir Putin in Moscow.
Zarif wrote on the Twitter social media, “To sell bigoted lies against a nation which has saved Jews 3 times, Netanyahu resorting to fake history & falsifying Torah. Force of habit.”
The foreign minister continued, “Once again, Benjamin Netanyahu not only distorts the realities of today, but also distorts the past — including Jewish scripture. It is truly regrettable that bigotry gets to the point of making allegations against an entire nation which has saved Jews three times in its history. The Book of Esther tells of how Xerxes I saved Jews from a plot hatched by Haman the Agagite, which is marked on this very day; again, during the time of Cyrus the Great, an Iranian king saved the Jews — this time from captivity in Babylon; and during the Second World War, when Jews were being slaughtered in Europe, Iran gladly took them in.”
Terry says
The Book Of Esther is NOT PART OF THE TORAH.
It was written hundreds (if not a thousand or so years AFTER THE TORAH WAS WRITTEN).
The ONLY item the Iranian asshole got correct was the Jews were saved BUT BY ESTHER AND HER UNCLE, MORDECAI, FROM HAMMAN ( 2 M’S NOT ONE, BUT WILL NOT QUIBBLE OVER THAT) THE AGAGITE.
Never heard of XerXes.
As for Cyrus The Great-he was the SON OF ESTHER (who was married to the King)- and under Jewish law, if the MOTHER IS JEWISH THE CHILD IS JEWISH.
HIPS says
“Never heard of XerXes”.
You should, considering it was a secondary/equivalent name for Ahasuerus, the Grandson of Cyrus the Great, a.k.a., Cyrus II.
The events of the Book of Daniel takes place before the Book of Esther and there you will find Cyrus has already been born, lived and died before Esther has been born.
The Persian King in the Book of Esther is Ahasuerus/Xerxes I, the Grandson of Cyrus the Great/Cyrus II.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Esther
Go to: Setting (Section)
Terry says
The Cyrus, who was Emperor of Persia WHO GAVE ALL OR MUCH of the money for the rebuilding/building OF THE SECOND TEMPLE, was the son of Esther and Ahasuerus.
as for the name Xerxes-none of the Hebrew/English translations I have seen ever used that name.
no_one says
The basic rule for people with common sense should be “Don’t set a foot in a muslim majority country”. These two learned it the hard way.
mortimer says
Tourists should boycott Sharia countries.
StacyGirl says
The home nations of the west should issue travel warnings.
RickMT says
Governor Steve Jihad Bullock of Montana wants the muslims here so tourists won’t have to travel for sharia law.
STJOHNOFGRAFTON says
Well, that leaves out Great Britainistan & Swedenistan & Eurabia. Islam makes travel choices simpler now.
john spielman says
yup , they all quickly descending into the moral sewer common to all islamic CRAPISTANS!
Franc says
There are not many “Sharia countries”. “Muslim majority country” is not the same as “Sharia country” if what you mean by “Sharia country” is a country in which Sharia is the law of the land. Most Muslim majority countries are not under Sharia.
umbra says
That is incorrect. Almost all islamic (if not all) countries has sharia to varying degrees officially and unofficially (saudi arabia has the high level of implementation). This is especially true when it comes to family law, blasphemy and apostasy.
Franc says
Umbra, you are diverging from the original discussion. It was about the term “Sharia country” which I questioned about its meaning. It would help if you read the thread carefully and comprehend fully before commenting.
First “Muslim-majority country” was the term used, then mortimer said “Sharia country” which I questioned. Now you are bringing in a new term: “Islamic country” whose meaning I cannot assume.
Of all these terms, “Muslim-majority country” is the clearest and easiest to understand, and my comments centred on that. A Muslim majority country is a country in which Muslims make up the majority of the population. Now, that’s easy to understand.
While it is true that many Muslim-majority countries implement Sharia to different extents, Sharia however is not the law of the land. I did specifically use the words, “law of the land”, meaning, no other law supersedes it. Only a few countries have Sharia as the “law of the land”. Go look it up; I already have. And by the way, I live in a Muslim majority country, and I assure you that Sharia is NOT the “law of the land” here although a high percentage of Muslims wishes it were. But for it to become reality, the Constitution will need to be changed, and that is very unlikely to happen, so my country will not be ruled by Sharia. And i guess that means it won’t be a “Sharia country”. I don’t know what makes a country an “Islamic country”, though, so I can’t say anything about that.
Michael says
Terrifying, really. Being charged with a crime for something they obviously did — had sex, for god’s sake — months before being in Saudi Arabia, and obviously tourists. So if you are in a Muslim country, not married, and it can be determined that you had sex, you can be arrested. Yes, stay out of Muslim countries altogether … and keep Muslim law out of ours.
Jeanette says
Not Saudi Arabia, which doesn’t allow tourism.
And staying out of Muslim countries, and even those counries that have been heavily infected with Muslims, would be a very wise move!
RickMT says
Muslim young men are sent to American colleges and universities to “sow their oats” with Amerucan girls. Upon return to their septic tank, they marry proper Muslim Ladies.
Universities and colleges across the US, like the University of Montana, overlook their young women being raped because they depend on Muslim (in this case, Saudi money).The rapist jumped on an airplane for Saudi Arabia and never faced prosecution.
Ted says
I agree with you completely. If you go to a country and it has these draconian laws and you break them, who is too blame. All we can do as Canadians and Americans is stand up for what OUR countries laws are and we must band together to ensure this Sharia nonsense is never acceptable here. If the Islamists call on Allah in their Mosques to kill the Jews and others who don’t follow their nonsense is that not a crime. Hitlers policy condemned the Jews and wanted world domination and that caused my Father to spend 3 years in North Africa and Europe fighting with the Allies to end that. Now we have a gang of Islamists in both countries wanting an almost exactly what Herr Hitler wanted and a gang of Politicians too scared to do anything. We have one of them as the leader of the majority party in Canada and hopefully our citizens will arise and he will not have his majority anymore.
Jeanette says
Here in the States it is illegal to threaten the President with assassination.
Since the Muslims follow a book which commands that all non-Muslims be enslaved or murdered, and since they are threatening to murder all non-Muslims, and since Trump is a non-Muslim, you’d think we could do something about it.
I guess we have to hope that it’s being discussed behind closed doors at the White House.
Patricia says
That’s too easy. Also these countries should be listed as dangerous for tourists. Of course you never hear of the Hollywood elites ever getting arrested, and the leaders/men in those countries are such hypocrites, like they only have sex within marriage, SURE. People going there to work, BEWARE.
Patricia says
I was replying to the comment about even the sanity of going to these places in the first place.
Infidel from Down Under says
Boycott their airlines
Jeanette says
Intelligent cultures should be boycotting everything connected to the Rape & Murder Cult.
mortimer says
Sharia law kills… everybody.
Jeanette says
Well, not everybody, or there wouldn’t be 1.7 billion Muslims, even with their herd breeding program.
skeptic says
Having 4 wives you can really produce offspring.
Jeanette says
That’s what I mean by “herd breeding”!
Sassy says
Abu Dhabi Vacation Packages – beautiful hotels, nice ocean, but they don’t tell you about ZINA.
https://www.expedia.ca/Abu-Dhabi-Emirate.d6053838.Destination-Travel-Guides?rfrr=Redirect.From.www.expedia.com%2FAbu-Dhabi-Emirate.d6053838.Destination-Travel-Guides
David M says
We should start ringing travel companies promoting Abu Dhabi & the UAE, & ask the booking clerk about Zina, & about reporting rapes, & if we will be sent to jail if we do.
Expect stunned silence from the booking clerk, might have to speak to a manager, ha.
Emilie Green says
Life’s a tough teacher. It gives the test first. Then you get the lesson.
I know of one couple which has learned a thing or two about Islam.
Dov Berrol says
Amazing. This should be a warning to any naive westerner saying “yes” to the UAE’s invitation to tourists from around the world. They are in the process of building massive tourist facilities in the hope that millions will come to the Orlando of the Middle East: Ferrari World Theme Park, Warner Brothers Abu Dhabi, Legoland, Bollywood Park, Moviegate, water parks and shopping malls and hotels, Expo 2020 World Exhibition and the largest airport in the world. I guess all tourists will have to convert to Islam at the entry gates and turnstiles before they can “enjoy” the United Arab Emirates.
I much prefer Orlando and Shanghai.
Diane Harvey says
“. . . with their family saying: ‘The only thing they did wrong was fall in love.’”
Ah, lady, the only thing they did wrong was to decide to take a vacation in a Muslim country. And stupidity ain’t an excuse.
The world is loaded with lots of places, non-Muslim places, that are beautiful and warm. This couple had no reason to choose a Muslim country. Really, were they just that stupid???
Terry says
Ms. Harvey–
my answer to your sentence/question.
YES, they are that stupid.
Besides, DID THEY NOT EVER HEAR OF BIRTH CONTROL PILLS? CONDOMS? And, (I forgot the name) -a patch that prevents pregnancy-so a woman doe snot ahve to remember to take the pill.
As for the South African government- if the couple-or at least the South African was black-would their response have been the same?
Veka Fitzfrancis says
For intellectual honesty’s sake, women can get pregnant even if they use birth control.
roger woodhouse says
They both were working in that country and not on vacation
Voytek Gagalka says
Suddenly “suffering stomach pains” and not knowing that she was pregnant? Very suspicious. Initial pregnancy (for first few weeks at least) does not involve any physical pain. And beside all: who in his sane mind make “love” holidays in Mohammedan country? Uneducated leftists believing Islam to be “religion of peace”?
Smarty says
Ever heard of ectopic pregnancy?
Rosie says
I read that they were working and living there, not on holiday.
T.K, says
The guy is South African Muslim, so Sharia is applicable. If not forced, the guy would never marry her. Poor naive Ukrainian girl.
Norman Moffatt says
Another moderate Islamic country doing what Islam does best, follow the Sharia.
Keith says
Why oh why would any non married couple holiday in an Islamic country?
Jeanette says
Because they believed the BS about Islam being the religion of peace, maybe?
Our public schools here in the States are indoctrinating our kids with that lethal lie.
Rufolino says
Well at least the publicity is one more nail in Islam’s reputation, despite the efforts of the Pope etc. to push a politically correct fantasy that “there is no danger” in Islam.
UNCLE VLADDI says
Re: “Iryna Nohai was reportedly holidaying in Abu Dhabi with her partner Emlyn Culverwell”
Yeah, there it is, their first (and, possibly, last) mistake – going to an islamic country at all.
John says
I have been to Dubai several times. Very many of their streets are teeming with “ladies of the night” when darkness falls. Are they on the streets for for picnic or tea parties? Mussies amaze me with their hypocrisy
Jeanette says
But the Muslims have a strategy for that. They have very short marriages (an hour or two) to make such dalliances legal.
Chuck says
She will learn a hard lesson after deciding to put her butt in the air for a good time, then travelling to a 3d world rathole country as a tourist..STUPID IS AS STUPID DOES. As for him? Ha, he brought her there on purpose..she’ll abort, then be sold on the blonde haired female slave market..he’ll get a new identity, new passport and do it all over.
patriotliz says
The travel magazine/website AFAR which is a favorite among the 20-30 somethings had this “come visit and learn the culture” article on Abu Dhabi–I remember this article because unfortunately, it was written by a close relative….nothing I can say or do could de-program her from her Leftist view that ‘there are no bad cultures or people’…except for fascist American Republicans and conservatives:
http://www.afar.com/magazine/10-reasons-to-travel-to-abu-dhabi-this-winter
Bamaguje says
“South Africa’s foreign ministry has reportedly said that it cannot help the couple as they are facing domestic UAE law” – The Sun
Who is the idiot running South Africa’s foreign ministry?
Terry says
Probably related to the idiot that is the Swedish Foreign Minister ( who feels that the Paris terrorist attacks are the fault of the Israelis.
Jeanette says
And I’ll bet they are some who used to claim that Islam is the religion of peace.
Remember when Michelle stayed in Paris or London (can’t remember which) while Obama went to bow before the King of Saudi Arabia? That was another clue that he was Muslim.
A Muslim man is not allowed to marry a non-Muslim woman until he has produced at least one son with a Muslim woman. If the Obamas’ marriage was not recognized in Arabia because of that rule, then Michelle had been guilty of having sex before marriage.
And we know what the Saudis to do women for such serious infractions of their caveman rules.
The woman in this article may be lucky if Dubai doesn’t wait until the baby is born and then stone her to death.
Angemon says
How many “liberals” are OK with a form of government that dictates when two consenting adults can f*** or not? That sounds a lot like a tyranny, to me.
Jeanette says
I’d say a culture that mutilates somewhere around 90% of its girls (or women if it’s done later), is definitely tyrannical.
Michael says
Tyrannical is too kind, Jeanette. Barbaric, brutal, inhuman, evil. Is there such a thing as demonic possession? Many years ago, I remember seeing ‘The Exorcist.’ Raised Catholic, it scared the hell out of me. These people — whatever it is that makes us human, seems to be snuffed out at an early age in them. I don’t know if they’re possessed. But the evil in them has overcome whatever humanity there was in them. And they are part of an ideology that despises our humanity. It’s a religion — I hate to use the word for it any more — that worships brutality and domination and death. Life doesn’t matter to them. How this can be instilled into people, is frightening to say the least. This dark side that completely blots out the light, the spirit of life, in someone.
Jeanette says
I agree that “tyrannical” is too kind, but I was answering a comment that said Islam seemed tyrannical.
My favorite description of it is Pamela Geller’s: An Army of Charles Mansons.
Jeanette says
I should have included in that last comment – I have even mused about whether these people might be the remnants of the Nephilim that survived the Flood.
Richie says
Why would anyone vacation in Abu Dhabi? I’m hardly shocked they would enforce the laws of their death cult on everyone- but how long before western countries do the same? With all the Sharia courts throughout the UK, I have wondered how long before Sharia law trumps British. law? Its worse on the mainland- It seems Sweden and Germany have folded like a lawn chairs to the demands of Sharia law