“This effort is not solving a problem, but it is simply based on an out-of-state model in policy that is a direct reaction to Islamophobia and it is an underhanded effort to spread an alarmist message about Islam in order to keep Muslims in the United States on the margins,” Rachel Carroll Rivas, co-director of the Montana Human Rights Network.
In reality, no one is trying to “spread an alarmist message about Islam.” No one cares about individual Muslim religious practice or wants to restrict it. The purpose of anti-Sharia laws is not to stop Muslims from getting married in Islamic religious ceremonies or to restrict their religious practice in other ways, but to stop the political and supremacist aspects of Islam that infringe upon the rights and freedoms of non-Muslims, denying the freedom of speech, the freedom of conscience, and the equality of rights of all people before the law. This is the case that must be made, but it still hasn’t been.
“‘Anti-Sharia Law’ Bill Passes In Montana House Judiciary,” by Jason Le Miere, International Business Times, March 14, 2017:
A bill to ban foreign laws in Montana courts that many have described as an anti-Sharia law bill, passed the Republican-controlled House Judiciary Monday. Senate Bill 97, which passed along party lines by an 11-8 vote, will now move to the House floor for debate.
Although the bill does not specifically mention Sharia law, the term was used by both those supporting and opposing it during hearings, Montana Public Radio reported. Opponents claimed that the law would further anti-Muslim sentiment, while proponents argued that Sharia law could be used as a defense to abuse women or marry minors.
Republican Representative Seth Berglee conceded that he was not aware of any such instances in Montana but said that he had been informed of examples in other states where people attempted to get the court to enforce foreign laws.
“It might not be a problem in Montana but we make prospective laws all the time,” Burgle said. “So I think this is a good bill.”
Supporters of such bills often point to a New Jersey case from 2009 when a family court judge ruled that a woman could not be granted a restraining order against her husband who had sexually assaulted her, based on Sharia law. However, the verdict was later overturned.
Similar foreign or Sharia law bills have been introduced in a number of states in recent years, [sic]
The American Civil Liberties Union has argued that such laws are unconstitutional….
“This effort is not solving a problem, but it is simply based on an out-of-state model in policy that is a direct reaction to Islamophobia and it is an underhanded effort to spread an alarmist message about Islam in order to keep Muslims in the United States on the margins,” Rachel Carroll Rivas, co-director of the Montana Human Rights Network, said. “This is simply a policy rooted in xenophobia that is unfounded and unfair.”
blitz2b says
“….that is a direct reaction to Islamophobia and it is an underhanded effort to spread an alarmist message about Islam….”
Yet another liberal leftist dim witted organization pandering to Muslims and spreading it’s ignorance of the brutal ideology they adhere to….
Open and read the damn book for a change you brain dead liberal, fascist promoting idiots and you will realize it’s evil intent.
Bravo Montana… Hope this spreads throughout all the states and in fact the whole civilized world. Islam is a disease that must be wiped off of the face of the earth.
john spielman says
how can the ACLU argue this bill is ” unconstitutional”? because sharia itself is UNCONSTITUTIONAL!
PRCS says
The most significant problems with the term “sharia law”:
1. It’s not sharia “law”. It’s the sharia.
2. Conduct a “man on the street” interview and ask what sharia means, what it entails, and what texts drive it (hint: most would not know that it includes toilet etiquette).
In order to be more specific, and to reduce the confusion, whadaya say we call it Islamic law.
Manuel 2 Paleologus says
Just keep your sharia in your muslim countries and just spear the Free World of islam idiocy. Practice your sharia and stay there.
HF says
Absolutely, If you are not comfortable with our US Constitution and its derived US laws, no one forces you to live in the blessed land of the USA. Please go back where Sharia is applied, but leave us free to live according to our laws and Judeo-Christian values.
I hope sharia will be repealed soon once and for all to keep the USA free from this social cancer. Sharia is there to dominate and eliminate the infidels, i.e., non-muslims, pure and simple. Sharia means freedom for live according to sharia exclusively, submitting all infidels to it.
Carolyne says
I fail to see the relevance of whether it is called Sharia Law or “The Sharia. ”
Your second point is valid, as is your third point.
ninetyninepct says
Exactly like infidels say muslimas wear “the” hijab, when they say are wearing hijab. TRhey leave out “the”. It isn’t a piece of clothing, it is a way of life, of submission, admitting they are subservient to males. Muslimas deny it but that is only an excuse.
It also isn’t demanded in the Koran but is a symbol of male oppression.
Manuel 2 Paleologus says
A good point. The traitors are among our politicians and these so called human rights organization which are just a bunch of morons who aim at the destruction of America!
HF says
Absolutely, our politicians are just willfully ignorant of Islam, the Kuran, and the sharia law disguised as a religion.
somehistory says
The aclu…a misnomer…has moslms as attorneys. What else can be expected of such people?
And the idiot saying that writing a law that *protects* women and little girls is “unfair” should have to watch videos that have been made and posted of little girls being brutalized due to the unholy code of evil conduct thought up by satan and given to the worthless creature of the desert and inflicted on millions in worship of the beast.
Since it doesn’t use the term that moslims use for their code of evil abuse of women and children and non-moslims, it is clear that moslims and others protesting against it are in favor of abuse of women and children and non-moslims. How much more “unfair” can it get?
mortimer says
Sharia discriminates against women and ‘others’.
mortimer says
164 jihad verses in the Koran, 65 jihad hadiths in Bukhari and 69 jihad hadiths in Sahih Muslim tell me that jihad is a fundamental, central, compulsory duty incumbent upon all Muslims without exception. They have 4 options for the type of jihad they will practice 1) military 2) verbal 3) writing 4) financial. In addition, some practice the jihad of the cradle.
Jihad is the methodology for spreading the anaconda of Sharia law over the earth and then crushing the life out of every nation, culture and person until all are zombie-slaves of man-made Sharia law, the most discriminatory legal system on earth.
Troybeam says
They need to have an anti sharia bill that reads the truth: Anti-Sharia bill that would ban the practice of sharia law within the United States as it applies only to Islam thus preventing a nation with 2 legal systems.
terry karcich says
Since Congress will never be able to pass this realistic and necessary law, each state should do what Montana has done, Nobody is dictating how someone worships, but when sharia calls for the overthrow of all non-Muslim religion and culture by whatever means possible including violent barbarism, it is in conflict with our Constitution and should be outlawed. I will never understand the stupidity of people who insist that we must accept sharia in the name of diversity (which is not in the Constitution.) There are millions of cannibals in the world. Are we going to bring them in for diversity’s sake and hope that they change their dietary preference?
Troybeam says
Muslims can eat humans according to Islamic law and practices and are doing so. Research this for yourself.
HF says
How beautifully said! According to some, cannibalism is permitted by Islam.
Westman says
Montana Public Radio – NPR – the go-to voice of communism and BDS in the USA. At least PBS tries to have a semblence of balance while NPR has turned into Communist Talk Radio, supporting every uber-leftist cause that aims to force people and OPM into service.
I’ve listened to NPR reporting for 50 years and never heard a word of praise or pride in America. As the official radio station on many campuses, it has done almost as much damage to the patiotism of college students as activist liberal professors.
Montana is where pride in America and a willingness to protect her and her Constitution still thrives. Like Islam moving into the West, liberals have invaded towns like Missoula, Helena, and Bozeman because of the beauty and tranquility that has been preserved – and their presence is changing it into something else.
Liberals are always chafing about wanting more “freedom” for themselves like unrestricted drugs, abortion, etc while expecting patriots to protect them from foreign threats. After several generations of getting what it demanded, the uber-left is getting downright seditious.
Even the Hollywood icons want the US to dissolve into the nothingness of globalism. Angela Jolie schools us that, “We see a rising tide of nationalism, masquerading as patriotism”, while she stupidly ignores what Islam intends for her and devalues the lives spent to give her opportunity in the US.
When popular figures figures use Patriotism as a pejorative, they deserve only contempt and boycott.
Let’s hope Montana can show the US that it will not stand for anything less than Patriotism and the preservation of a sharia-free USA. Go Montana!
Walter Sieruk says
Something , indeed ,should be done to stop the insidious spread of Sharia law in the United States .Even if it’s only one State at a time. For the Muslims who are promoting Sharia law in their stealth jihad are likewise striving to have Sharia law set up even if it’s just one State in the USA at at time..
in addition, there is the internet site http://www.bansharialaw.com Such action as of this site is necessary because it should always be remembered that this is America and not Iran..
Walter Sieruk says
With the information provided in this above article its therefore very appropriate to reiterate this following essay .
The message needs to be made known to all the Muslims who live in the United States of America who dislike and maybe even despise the US Constitution and would like to replace it with Sharia law. Those same Muslims instead in trying to force Sharia law on American citizens and their nation those are free to leave and really should leave the USA and then go to live in either Shii ‘ite, Iran or Sunni , Saudi Arabia if they actually feel the Sharia law is the grand, great and wonderful .
Moreover, all this is a strong reminder of the wise words declared by Theodore Roosevelt in a speech. “There can be no fifty –fifty Americanism in this country. There is room here for only one hundred percent Americanism , only for those who are Americans and nothing else.”
miriamrove says
The 8 people who rejected it are Muslims or their sympathizers. m
Walter Sieruk says
The scheming jihadist/Muslims who promote Sharia law in America engage in the doctrines of the Islamic doctrine of Taqiyya which is very insidious. Taqyyia is the jihad dogma that deception is a good thing to do as long as it’s done for the advancement of Islam. Nevertheless, the God of the Bible “condemns those who devise wicked schemes…” Proverbs 12:11. [N.I.V.] Likewise, Proverbs 12:20 teaches “Deceit is in the hearts of those who plot evil.”
HF says
Excellent comment. Yes! Taqiyya is recommended by the Kuran. And this is why none of our politicians should negotiate with the Palestinians at the expense of Israel. With Taqiyya, we lose and we become willing victims of Islam.
Guest says
Ignore the leftists, they only thing this proves is that they are sore losers
John A. Marre says
It should not be necessary to pass a new bill to forbid Muslims doing what is already illegal in this country: removing heads from bodies, raping women, raping men, burning cars and blowing up buildings.
They can bow down and pray any way they want, as long as they don’t disturb the lives or safety of ordinary people.
Ted says
We had 18 Islamic criminals up here in Canada who during the week where they were visible, done what you said and practiced their religion, all the groveling on the prayer mats and other things they do in the Mosque. On the weekends they had a few firearms and went up into the bush where they practised shooting and martial arts to prepare for an armed-jihad which was to start in Toronto and Ottawa. The plan apparently was to set off bombs in downtown Toronto and invade the Parliament buildings in Ottawa, cause as much destruction and be-head the Prime Minister. The plan was found out by an Islamic informer, they were arrested, convicted and most sent to jail and our Prime Minister says it is against their rights to deport them. This is what sitting on our hands, not believing what is happening in the Middle East and Europe and the U.S.A. by these people who we wish would only bow down and pray. They have an AGENDA, we must have extreme vetting of all people coming into our countries. We are hoping to get a Prime Minister elected who will stand up for CANADIANS FIRST. Stand up to people who if they immigrated and swore an oath to our laws and rights of fellow Canadians and didn’t live up to that oath. Deport them. Absolutely no SHARIA.
Angemon says
Then the headline is misleading.
Nancy says
The Law of the Land creates a Set of Values for one and all and these laws should be respected. It is the Law of the Land that creates a strong country. It is the Law of the Land that creates equality for everyone.
ele says
BTW the “8” voting against the bill are all democrats. You should really listen to the pod cast of the hearing . Very informative regarding the opponents. http://montanalegislature.granicus.com/MediaPlayer.php?view_id=96&clip_id=22530&meta_id=208175
common sense says
Voting to abide by American law over any other foreign law that might supercede it? Really? 11-8? Really? 8 idiots.
Is there any other foreign law we should be so worried about? Hindus are so dangerous? Buhuddists? Really? Good for them although adhering to American law should not even be in question. Like it or leave it!
davej says
Prohibiting “any foreign or religious law” from overriding or replacing US law.
What kind of dhimmis are objecting to this simple principle?
Answer: idiots and traitors, of whom we have a surplus.
This should be passed in every State. How is that even controversial?
davej says
And don’t give me that “anti-Muslim” garbage – we expect all citizens and immigrants to comply with our laws, no special exceptions!
Diana Reese says
It’s NOT ISLAMAPHOBIA! What’s asinine thing to believe! If you allow it in just a CORNER of the US YOU’RE NUTS! Can you sell just “a little” of your soul to Satan & NOT go to hell? NO YA CAN’T!
Irene Brekelmans says
I can not believe the Americans either, they are just like the Europeans, why can’t you say that you forbid Sharia law, it is against the constitution, which says, NO FOREIGN LAWS.
Plus what you Americans and Europeans do to the veterans and the families who’s served and died in those wars in Irak. First the government has been lying to you and now your own people. I have a son who served twice in Irak, who came home with PTSS, for what, people? You have betrayed them as well.
For what did they fight and had to die for this all? Shame, shame, shame on you.
You are men enough to send your own sone and daughters to wars for nothing and when you have only to stand up for your people, you are even too coward to call a spade a spade. Is somebody putting a mickey in to your coffee in the morning and in your drinks at night? Sorry, I know I spelled the word mickey wrong, but it is not in the dictionary, but I am sure everybody knows what I mean. Veterans are perplexed too. You have become traitors to your own people and it is no better here in Europe.
Tonight we are having a demonstration again from the Turks in Rotterdam, because we did not let the Turkish minister in to hold a big demonstration for Erdogan. Premier Rutte only stood strong 2 days before the election, and it helped him a lot, people were relieved that he finally stood up, but now after the election, nothing is left, I still do not understand it.
I would love it too when everybody could live peacefully together, but we can not take the whole world in, plus not let them take over our countries
and we surely do not want all this medieval religion. I think all globalists , leftists, clerics etc.
, should leave with the muslims to elsewhere and start their own country, but not in ours.
As muslims as they are so divided themselves and always fight among each other, they were never able to construct their own country in a human way, so they are trying to conquer ready made countries, who have been trough their own miseries already, and once they have it, they will mess it up again among themselves.
But once more, can anybody explain to me the behaviour of the American and European people in this whole conflict, are they afraid, blind, can not hear, hope that it will all disappear one day?
It is almost like somebody lamed them in their brains. I would really like an explanation about this from
somebody. We have to unite, you people, they mess with your minds, divide and conquer and you all lay down and say, pls when? Islam is NOT a religion of peace and if you do not see this by now, there is no hope, they calculated everything for years. I, myself am supposed not to judge people, and that is not my intention, but I am trying to wake you up !!!You should be so united as the muslims are, that I have to give them, they are over united, but even if we are a big bit more united, it would be, to say at leat , nice. You all know how this will end and there are only 3 choices, I don’t have to spell them out for you and I won’t. So, get real and I thank all the people who write and trying to do their best to wake you.
Morally, what you are doing, is, you play dumb and hope others will fight it out for you, because you do not want to know, at least you could say or write something, the more the better, but DO SOMETHING
and don’t stay in total denial. This is food for psychiatrists. Ans let me be clear on this, I don’t think
that the Western world is perfect, but at least we came out of medieval times, and if you muslim people want to do that, do it, but not over our backs, we have had our times, thank you and we had to do it ourselves too. NOTHING, STAYS THE SAME FOREVER. you need to review and change things all the time and look at your own lives and behaviours, hold on to the good traditions, but throw the bad ones out, if you don’t, the changes will be made for you., and sometimes not in a pleasant way. But so many people have warned you already years and years ago, but you did not want to listen as we the people,
don’t know anything, and that is sometimes a big mistake, and why, because you pretent to be a democratie, but you are not, and nobody is, and see here the consequences You can go wrong for decades, for centuries and then all of a sudden what you put in turns around and grabs you and you don’t know what hits you, and you hope it is not happening, but it is. You did not grab it in time, but at least acknowledge it, then you can go on further, but as long as you play lame, there is no way.
Ofcourse this will turn around for the muslims too and it will not be pretty, but you can not go on by murdering people or go to war whenever it pleases you, neither can we, but we all live on this planet and have to respect everybody, but if somebody wants to destroy you , you have a right to defend yourselves and preferably not with war and in that sense, we are all guilty, but it has to stop sometime and that time is now, you have no idea how important the timeline is. It has to be now, and that is for all the people in the world and for all countries. That is why we always have to keep alert what governments are doing when they are making secret deals in the back rooms, because all of a sudden a deal pops out where we didn’t know anything about, but it can have devastated consequences for us all
I know why we are in this mess, but that’s another story. But at least, do something, see it for what it is.
And for the about 2 smirking muslim writers here, truth will always prevail, and beheading and stoning
and crucifying and whip them and burn and drowning them and hack of their hands and feet, that will not be tolerated by the cosmic laws, neither will wars. We don’t have the same wars as before anymore,
they will be shorter, but much more violent. You have no idea, not a clue.
At this moment the earth is fighting back, and people, never try to fight the art, because nature will always win and can fight back in the same way we fighter it, we almost destroyed the earth already 4 times, and it was stopped, because our whole universe is affected by it, but you know, this time if you really start big wars and really want to destroy the planet, that is an end for us, we can not progress any more and have to wait and repeat our history with the same for millions of years until we will get to the same point as we are now and then again see if we still want destroy each other. Is that what you want?
I don’t at all. So wise up and wake up. May your God who is the same as my God bless you and do not humanise God. “He” is not a person and does not think the same way we do as humans, He does not think, He is that He is. The total energy of love, but do not be mistaken, soft as butter, but hard as nails,
but always right. Hope the best for everybody.
Ted says
This is all going to make non-violent people eventually end up being forced to decide, if all you believe in is going to be taken away from you because it is not being protected by the BALLOT, then you either Lay down, shut-up and submit or protect it with the BULLET. I fear Islamic domination as much as I fear my countries policy to put a gag on me and deny me the right to express my views on an Islamic cult, that has a proven policy to want to become the master of us all. I think one of your States (New Jersey) has a licence plate that says it all.
Darryl says
“This effort is not solving a problem, but it is simply based on an out-of-state model in policy that is a direct reaction to Islamophobia and it is an underhanded effort to spread an alarmist message about Islam in order to keep Muslims in the United States on the margins,” Rachel Carroll Rivas, co-director of the Montana Human Right.
“ISLAMOPHOBIA” If it was a real word, its definition would be “A irrational fear of all things Islamic”.
I have a issues with this “word” and how (if it was a real word) redundant it is in its ability to decribe how a lot of people feel.
Phobia; an irrational fear…
In no way do I fear Islam or Muslims. Nor are my concerns regarding Islam irrational.
To claim banning Sharia “will not solve the problem” and “is an underhanded effort to spread an alarmist message about Islam in order to keep Muslims on the margins” is by far the most Moronic and ideotic verbal diarrhea I have heard spew of the mouth of the belligerent in a long time.
Islam is the problem and banning Sharia is a start to solve the problem.
A deplorable actions carried out in the name of Islam everyday dose a fantastic job of keeping Muslims on the margins all by its self.
RK says
WAKE UP AMERICA- THIS MINDSET, THIS IDEOLOGY DOES “NOT” FIT- NOR IS IT COMPATIBLE WITH WHO WE ARE AS A PEOPLE IN THE U.S.A.
THEY BELONG IN THEIR OWN COUNTRIES, PERIOD – AND THOSE OF U THAT THINK THEY CAN CHANGE THEM OR STOP THEIR TAUGHT VALUES/IDEOLOGY THEN GO TO THEIR HOMELAND ALONG WITH THEM AND TRY TO FIX THIS MINDSET OVER THERE— GOOD LUCK WITH THAT!
YOU CAN’T CHANGE THE SPOTS ON A LEOPARD, SO TO SPEAK— THIS IS TAUGHT TO THEM IN THEIR HOMES AND IN THEIR MOSQUE. SO GET REAL- STOP LIVING IN U’R FANTASY LAND!
SHAME ON THEM THAT COME HERE AND WANT TO PUSH THEIR FAILED VALUES UPON THE REST OF US IN OUR OWN COUNTRY AND SHAME ON ALL OF U FOR REFUSING THE REAL FACTS, REFUSING REALITY, AND LIVING IN U’R DENIALS WHILE PUTTING THE REST OF US AND OUR COUNTRY IN GREAT DANGER!
Neville J. Angove says
“The American Civil Liberties Union has argued that such laws are unconstitutional….”
How is prohibiting US legal judgements from being made according to foreign laws considered unconstitutional? Perhaps the ACLU should be renamed as “The Un-American Uncivil Liberties Union?”
Eric Jones says
American law for American coutrs.
Eric
Brenda Romano says
ACLU has lost it’s mind (if it ever had one). Foreign laws, codes, systems, doctrine, culture have absolutely no place in American jurisprudence. Explain why an American court let a Chinese man plead down to a charge a manslaughter after he “intentionally” bashed his wife’s head in with a hammer because he thought she had had an affair? (honor killing)
Are they really stupid enough to believe that if we were in Somalia that their courts would abide by American laws, culture, doctrine? If so, then explain why two tourists were arrested and imprisoned because she was found pregnant and not married?
I applaud Montana. I wish every state in the union would adopt this stance.