The death penalty for apostasy is part of Islamic law. It’s based on the Qur’an: “They wish you would disbelieve as they disbelieved so you would be alike. So do not take from among them allies until they emigrate for the cause of Allah. But if they turn away, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them and take not from among them any ally or helper.” (Qur’an 4:89)
A hadith depicts Muhammad saying: “Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him” (Bukhari 9.84.57). The death penalty for apostasy is part of Islamic law according to all the schools of Islamic jurisprudence.
This is still the position of all the schools of Islamic jurisprudence, both Sunni and Shi’ite. Sheikh Yusuf al-Qaradawi, the most renowned and prominent Muslim cleric in the world, has stated: “The Muslim jurists are unanimous that apostates must be punished, yet they differ as to determining the kind of punishment to be inflicted upon them. The majority of them, including the four main schools of jurisprudence (Hanafi, Maliki, Shafi’i, and Hanbali) as well as the other four schools of jurisprudence (the four Shiite schools of Az-Zaidiyyah, Al-Ithna-‘ashriyyah, Al-Ja’fariyyah, and Az-Zaheriyyah) agree that apostates must be executed.”
Qaradawi also once famously said: “If they had gotten rid of the apostasy punishment, Islam wouldn’t exist today.”
But usually Muslim spokesmen in the West are not as forthright about this as Uthman Badar is here. The real question is, how is this idea compatible with the freedoms that Australians take for granted?
“EXCLUSIVE: Days after the carnage in London, this is the moment we catch a firebrand Islamist leader on camera saying all former Muslims should be put to DEATH… in Sydney on Saturday night,” by Stephen Johnson, Daily Mail Australia, March 27, 2017 (thanks to The Religion of Peace):
A leader of a hardline Islamist group which campaigns for sharia law says Muslims who leave the religion should be put to death.
Hizb ut-Tahrir spokesman Uthman Badar was frank when asked about the group’s policy at a forum in Bankstown, in Sydney’s south-west, on Saturday night.
‘The ruling for apostates as such in Islam is clear, that apostates attract capital punishment and we don’t shy away from that,’ Badar said in the presence of children. An apostate is someone who decides to leave Islam.
Hizb ut-Tahrir Australia removed references to that apostasy policy from its website as Alison Bevege, a freelance journalist, sued the group for making her to sit in a women’s-only section at a separate talk in October 2014.
On Saturday night, Ms Bevege held up a printed copy of Hizb ut-Tahrir’s draft constitution of the khilafah state published on the UK site, which was on the group’s Australian website until 2015.
This outlines their vision for a global Islamic caliphate, which has Muslims and non-Muslims living under sharia law.
She asked about their policy of killing people born as Muslims who leave the faith.
Hizb-ut Tahrir is a hardline Islamist group which seeks the establishment of a global caliphate, or empire.
The extremist group is said to reject democracy, secularism and all Western models of state.
Former prime minister Tony Abbott called for the group to be shut down in 2014, but the ban was never put in place.
A spokeswoman for Justice Michael Keenan told Daily Mail Australia the ‘execution’ matter had been referred to the Federal Police.
The organisation is banned in a number of Muslim-majority countries.
Article 7c of the document said: ‘Those who are guilty of apostasy (murtadd) from Islam are to be executed according to the rule of apostasy, provided they have by themselves renounced Islam.’
Badar initially responded by saying the policy wasn’t on its website before explaining how the group’s apostasy policy was compatible with Islam.
‘The whole thing covers different aspects of Islamic sharia law,’ he said.
‘The role of apostasy in Islam is very clear. Again, this is one of the things the West doesn’t like and seeks to change the role of apostasy.’ …
cyrus basile says
Another nation ruined by the left. instead you want workers muslims why not operate the natives that as the Indians of America are the true natural inhabitants of the place? The english they had got hold of a land, have decimated and decimated the population, li has excluded from society and now bring them also to the last step of the people, even under the caveman devils Muslim immigrants
Guest says
Australia has generally been a lot better than many other western countries at controlling immigration, even prepared to ‘look bad’ by keeping unwanted people on far-away islands. For some reason (‘freedom of religion’), even Australian governments have weakened on the islam topic. But the average Australian will have none of this, and Badar’s exposure on the Daily Mail will wake up many more.
E.R.H. says
In Canada Bill-103 says criticizing Islam is a Phobia. I don’t know what the penalties are going to be ,or if a mass arrest of people who want to have an opinion and when this is going to happen. I cant understand how anyone could be considered Phobic when the Koran says . Mohammad married a child of 9 and fucked her whether she liked it or not. The Koran says all Jews are to be killed. The Koran says Homosexuals are to be killed. The Koran says any who leave their so-called religion are to be killed. The Koran says non-believers are to be killed. The Koran says anything other than worship of Allah is forbidden. No music, no art, no hockey, no baseball, no basketball, only Allah. The ones who have the Phobia are the idiots in Ottawa who really think that the vast majority of Canadians are in step with this crap. Come and arrest all of us Trudeau. One day there will be a serious price to pay for denying us our free speech and if its not by vote there is only one other option. Don’t think that our military would turn their guns on their own Fathers, Mothers, Daughters, Sons and family members who don’t swallow your non-sence, you smug arrogant ass-hole.
A Harris USA says
Guest, I have seen the video from Australia, called, “Don’t bite the hand that feeds you”. I do not see the immigration authorities stopping or even curtailing the large influx of savage pigs into your nation. Not to mention to the savages who are getting their way with your welfare system.. At one time, Australia was very strict, now it seems like open doors are only open to Muslim rapeugees.. I know of several Americans who have needed skills including medical professionals who have been turned away, yet the Muslims flow into that fine land. Get your political leaders to turn your tough laws on the Muslim savages, who attack your people in their own land!! Is that to tough to understand..??
Jeanette says
Unless immigration requirements have changed, Australia has strict rules about Americans who may come in. American immigrants must be below a certain age, and must have a tax-generating job already lined up in Australia. It an immigrant is older than the age limit and has a lot of money, he can immigrate by investing $1 million in an Australian company.
At the time I checked on this, New Zealand’s rules were very similar.
Muslims apparently do not have to meet any requirements in Australia, like most of western civilization.
Robert says
it is mentioned multiple times in the Qoran: those who convert to another religion or just leave the Islam offended Allah and must be killed (usually by stoning). Also, the other wy around: I studied extensively the Qoran but in an Oxford English translation by an Egyptian Scholar in Islamic Studies. Since I did not become a Muslim by taking notice of the content of the Qoran, I have offened the prophet and Allah and I will burn in hell for ever. This opinion was shared by many Egyptian professors at the Universities of Cairo (2 universities in Cairo), Tanta, Alexandria and Zigagic.
carol says
Robert…looks like Mohammad and his puppet topped ‘Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned’.
Jeanette says
Mohammed and Islam ARE hell.
Jeanette says
Severe punishment for leaving an organization is one of the identifiers of a cult.
maghan says
The Native Americans migrated from Asia. Rather, they should be more accurately known as “Siberian Americans”. They were no nations with boundaries and border posts at that time.
Voytek Gagalka says
«Qaradawi also once famously said: “If they had gotten rid of the apostasy punishment, Islam wouldn’t exist today.”»
Isn’t that the best statement proving that, in opinion of Islamic highest scholars, Islam is based on nothing else but pure fear and brute force? That’s how it started and that is how it can end: It will not end, however, until that provision is not removed completely and permanently! You can talk about existence or not existence of illusory “moderates” within Islam. If you think that they exist regardless of all evidence to the contrary, just ask them to prove their “moderation” by removing that provision of punishment for apostasy; if they refuse, they are no moderates at all. I don’t think there is even single “moderate” Mohammedan out there, but you can still dream and try… Do you hear, Mr. Gorka and Dr. Jasser?
LR says
Maybe there are some ‘moderates’…If they uphold free speech rights, and don’t get violent about a Mohammed cartoon, and don’t believe in death for apostacy…
I like Tarek Fatah… He is an in-your-face critical Muslim who just got a bounty put on his head…He is at least trying to advance the dialogue about Islam…therefore the bounty on his head…Heck, he even called Keith Ellison ‘evil’ in one video…I cracked up…
gravenimage says
LR, I’m afraid Tarek Fatah is not quite the “moderate” you might hope he is:
“A brief debate with Tarek Fatah”
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/05/a-brief-debate-with-tarek-fatah
He is still an apologist for Islam, the Qur’an, and the vicious “Prophet” Muhammed
More Ham Ed says
“A leader of a hardline Islamist group which campaigns for sharia law says Muslims who leave the religion should be put to death”
I would say that 49% of 1.6 billion probably agree and the other 49% would stand there and do nothing. That leaves about 2% who are interested in reforming islam, a tiny minority ™.
http://www.pewforum.org/2013/04/30/the-worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-beliefs-about-sharia
maghan says
Islam cannot be reformed. For Muslims, the Qur’an represents the UNCHANGEABLE words of Allah.
salim says
The punishment for leaving Islam is death (after 3 days, in case the apostate may change his mind). All Muslims know this, which is why Muslims ( myself an example) keep their apostasy secret. I lived most of my life in the Middle East and never met a Muslim who didn’t know the penalty for apostasy. On speaking to Western media, Muslims lie. This man happened to forget to lie. Why some apostates do not get killed? because Muslims assume apostasy is only a phase and once the apostate gets through that phase he gets his senses back to normal.
I think it is important for the West to understand that Muslims speak in two languages: one to communicate with each other, which reflects their true opinions; and one to communicate with the outside world, which is to say what the others like to hear.
This understanding is essential to understand Muslims and helps to interpret polls. If you read that something like 60% of Muslims want sharia law, you know immediately its wrong because ALL Muslims want sharia law (which is why they are Muslims)
cyrus basile says
The West does not want to understand the Muslims, why we are not interested if you do in your countries, those of you who are in the west want to follow Islam does not respecting our laws, then return to your home, nobody has forced to go in western countries. as would be calm and beautiful the world without Islam, and how many innocent people would be alive and without wars. We do not go in the sites of Muslims to try to explain as you do, we don’t need any, we civilization and progress, you evil,arrogance,jealousy el folly
salim says
Is this a response to my post? Is it in English?
somehistory says
I think he did not understand that you left islam.
gravenimage says
Salim wrote:
On speaking to Western media, Muslims lie. This man happened to forget to lie.
………………
Dear Salim, Uthman Badar did not forget to lie.
Muslims only lie to Infidels when they believe they have to. Right now, some Muslims are so emboldened that they do not believe that they have to lie to the Infidels any more, but can reveal the full savagery of Islam without consequence.
carol says
Yes, it’s increasingly noticeable. They seem to be convinced we need them. Only the elitists need them – for consumers or cheap labor or tools to destroy nation states.
gravenimage says
I don’t think Muslims think we need them, Carol. Generally, Muslims only care what the “filthy Infidels” think if they believe it will make the spread of Islam more difficult.
miriamrove says
What else can one expect from the culture of death. m
DanC says
And this guy will not be exposed by MSM. He will go un-noticed/ignored just like everything else “negative” about Islam.
FB is also cramping down, I saw this drawing blocked/taken down by Zuckerberg’s slaves:
http://imgur.com/a/RxH0C
gravenimage says
Daily Mail Australia is the mainstream media. His savagery is getting at least some exposure.
gary says
…..The extremist group is said to reject democracy, secularism and all Western models of state.
Yet they enjoy all the comforts of Western Society.
MUSLIM HYPOCRITS!!
And even in their…. “religion” they miss the point about Law, God, and redemption:
“Those who live according to the flesh have their minds set on what the flesh desires; but those who live in accordance with the Spirit have their minds set on what the Spirit desires. The mind governed by the flesh is death, but the mind governed by the Spirit is life and peace.
”
Muhammed was a murdering selfish, self-serving, war monger!!!
Yet over 7 million people are blinded by his lies, and refer to him as “The Great Prophet”
Sad.
Actually…. He was a great puppet.
He got played by Satan.
The Confessions says
What is the Australian government going to do about this group? No more time for fooling around – the less they are challenged, the weaker we look and the more they get away with it.
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https://theconfessionsweb.wordpress.com/2017/03/27/hizb-ut-tahrirs-uthman-badar-confirms-support-for-the-killing-of-apostates-from-islam/
lwmeldman says
how is this not incitement?
No Fear says
Hizb ut Tahrir is banned in many Islamic countries. I believe the authorities in Australia would like to easily be able to keep an eye on the group and so they are not banned.
somehistory says
“‘… this is one of the things the West doesn’t like and seeks to change the role of apostasy.’”
Authorities and media and some religious figures are…denying that moslims want death for those who leave islam or wish to leave.
Pal says
Canadian imam contradicts Trudeau:
“Islam will never become a part of liberal secularism”:
http://en.cijnews.com/?p=214633
Really?
Halal Bacon says
hey Hizb ut-Tahrir, open your fat head, I have a sling shot and a nice juicy ham samich for you
marina says
After the death of the vile Mo Islam was spread by sheer force and not by the peaceful messages of Islam as some apologists claim. So free will, free choice of religion is something absent in Islam.
Once Australia was very tough on immigration. They didn’t let in too many outsiders. Now it is sad to see this great land infested by so many filthy parasites.
mccode says
Surprise. Surprise.
I’m shocked — shocked, I tell you.
The religion of intolerance strikes again.
berserker says
He has a clear position. What is ours? We allow him to live comfortably amongst us; and we tell everyone that Islam is peace.
– We are the problem; not this man or his barbaric religion.
Wolf Woman says
Yes.
LR says
Yep, that is how I am beginning to see it now too…
This group is banned in even some Muslim countries, and they are hangin’ out in Australia?…
Why Australia, Why? (I’m asking you, Australia)
underbed cat says
I am getting worn out, just redefine the religion of peace as a terror group and be done with it, it is so embedded across the world and growing, if they had accepted the Tony Abbott ban proposed, it could have solved the issue slowed down or stopped the flow. Yes it would be controversial but not if you determine the facts of sharia laws, and the doctrine. This is how exactly it spreads as a deadly virus….changing identity, that recedes, hides and later shows it ugly violence.
JMB says
This comes from Bankstown in Sydney’s south-west, an area almost totally dominated by Islam, almost a no-go area for normal Australians. gang wars and family feuds with payback shootings are the norm. Drug and other Middle East crime gangs rule the streets. A total world away from where our PM lives in Sydney’s exclusive eastern harbour side suburbs and also a world away from Canberra where the politicians and senior public servants keep telling us that Australia is the world’s most successful multicultural nation.
It is beyond belief that statements like this cleric can be made in a modern 21st century sophisticated city like Sydney. I just hope that both the NSW State and Australian Federal Police can keep an eye on all of this. Or do orders come down from higher up to “go easy on the Muslim community”; after all the government has spent a lot of money promoting harmony day just a week ago.
Halal Bacon says
this dude has a bad case of Kafirophobia; dislike of or prejudice against Kafir or non believers, especially as a political force.
Zayd says
This organisation and his values do represent Australian value’s and are criminal, He should arrested for implying death threats about apostacy to the General public. These individuals come to Australia with their extremism again I stress they should leave and go to Saudi or Pakistan. If you are muslim in Australia respect the law’s as it is your freedom to choose or leave a religion without hindrance as free will to choose is your democratic right. This moron only serves a dictatorial extreme view . The Australian Parliment should come out legislation that will arrest this extremist.
gravenimage says
But he isn’t an “extremist”–this is mainstream Islam.
PRCS says
I know you’re joking, but too many of our fellow kafirs still think a Muslim’s compliance with Qur’an and Sunnah constitutes “extremism”.
gravenimage says
Actually, I’m not joking, PRCS. As you note, a lot of what Infidels consider “extremism” is just orthodox Islam. Certainly, most Muslims believe that apostates should be killed, per the texts and tenets of islam and the model of the “Prophet”.
Good to see you posting.
Martel says
This disgraceful fool and another spokesman are the ones that often spruik their vile diatribe at the war memorial in a nearby suburb (Lakemba) .once saying ” if a thousand bombs go off in this country it will mean but one thing, THAT THE MUSLIMS ARE ANGRY!!”
To say this on Australian sacred war memorial is a open provocation. The irony on that day was that the eight peaceful observer Anglo Aussies in the crowd were forced to leave by police in order to maintain public order….
Field Lily says
This makes me really angry. How to insult the memory of our brave people who have given the ultimate sacrifice in order to defend this country and its values. But what makes me more angry is the secular organisations who don’t support its people. Corruption at its worst!
gravenimage says
Australia: Muslim leader says people who leave Islam should be put to death
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Murdering apostates is mainstream Islam.
Advocating murdering apostates is incitement to murder. Will this be allowed in civilized Australia?
L Davidson says
If Saudi Arabia had not banned the website below, maybe there would have been no 9/11 attack on America
unbeleiver1 says
Here are some Turkish youth who think all non-Muslims are inhuman and should be killed.
Where is the irrationality in Islamophobia?
https://youtu.be/VZXF_Rno5aw
PRCS says
Muslims who tell the truth about Islam, like Badar, should be given every opportunity to do so.
Biff H says
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvkUVi4t4Kg
Death for Apostasy Saudi Shiekh quotes Hadith
Feb 17, 2017
Our peace partners in the House of Saudi says it’s so.
Winston says
Maybe the Sheikh hasn’t had the opportunity to consult the section of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights (Article 18?) which has to do with Religion and states that all persons who wish to do so have the right to leave their religion.
gravenimage says
Muslims specifically negated that with the grotesquely named “Cairo Declaration of Human Rights in Islam”, which basically gives people the right to practice Islam, and nothing else.
Lydia says
Again, that Is Islam, it is NOT a religion of peace. It is an honest depiction.
Love in action? I think not.
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