American officials remain completely uninterested in the recurring phenomenon of converts to Islam falling into what those officials generally insist is a perversion of the true, peaceful Islam. Why do so many converts get the idea that their new religion calls for treason and mass murder? No one seems to care to find the answer to that question.
“BD terrorist had links to IS kingpin,” Dhaka Tribune, March 19, 2017 (thanks to The Religion of Peace):
Bangladesh-born Islamic State fighter Neaz Morshed Raja, who appeared in a recent propaganda video encouraging suicide attacks, had long been associated with the Salafist group’s upper-echelon through American Muslim convert John Georgelas.
Raja was also acquainted with Georgelas’ then wife Joya Chudhury Tania, a London-born woman of Bangladeshi origin who abandoned the top IS leader in late 2013 and divorced him the following year, according to Australian newspaper The Australian.
Texas-based Georgelas has now become a top leader of the IS group after the death of its external operations boss Abu Mohammad al-Adnani.
Son of a former US Air Force doctor and the grandson of an American World War II veteran, Georgelas converted to Islam in 2001 and married Joya in London in 2003. Georgelas went to Syria along with Joya and their two children in 2011.
He took the kunya (alias) Yahya Abu Hassan.
Raja meanwhile went missing from Dhaka on March 4, 2015 and died carrying out a suicide attack in Tikrit, Iraq on October 12 the same year, according to the IS video released on March 15 this year.
He was identified in the video as Abu Maryam al-Bengali.
After completing his A levels from Sunshine Grammar School and College, Chittagong, Raja went to Australia to study business and IT at Victoria’s Deakin University, where he could not finish his studies.
He returned to Dhaka in 2010, and became very quiet and religious, and got married the following year. He worked for a Dhaka-based buying house, HAH Corporation, according to his Facebook profile….
Voytek Gagalka says
No one seems to care because there is not sufficient pressure from the bottom up. People are terrorized to be branded names or perhaps loose their jobs if they will dare to open their mouth and say something. That must change to similar level which brought down previous (MB) government in Egypt. Until that will happen, nothing will change.
px fragonard says
This is true but a natural consequence of living in a highly adaptable open culture that was made for individual liberty rather than collective security. There may be a fundamental flaw in our polity. A friend of Einstein’s warned of such a flaw in the US constitution and they warned him not to bring it up when talking to naturalization. They went with him to take the citizenship test & changed the subject when the naive scientist’s tongue began to wander into political speculation. LOL.
mortimer says
Georgelas is now a traitor to his country in spite of coming from a patriotic family. Could the reason be that ISLAM HAS A DOCTRINE OF WARFARE AGAINST DISBELIEVERS?
The is a TRUTH DIFFERENTIAL in reporting about Islam. Reporters write what their bosses think ISLAM SHOULD BE (peace and love, etc.) and they IGNORE the easily found information that CONFIRMS what Islam is IN FACT (warfare against disbelievers).
DFD says
Forgive me for implying a correction, but how about replacing TRUTH DIFFERENTIAL with CASH DIFFERENTIAL?
IMO, and observation, reporters don’t appear to be ‘downtrodden’, on the contrary. Nor are they under any obligation to work for a particular publication, they could actually get a different job altogether. Hence my opinion as stated.
px fragonard says
The truth may be uglier still. If it bleeds it leads. If crises convert to cash, why not favor make-work projects?
IQ al Rassooli says
The enclosed video should be shown on Hannity and or every other conservative TV show because it utterly destroys the FALSE mantra of ‘peaceful Muslims’ forever
Please spread the following 6 minutes video PROVING that Muslims will NEVER be LOYAL citizens anywhere NOT Islamic
This video has more than one million views already
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJnW8HRHLLw&t=2s
IQ al Rassooli
Kafir & Proud!
no_one says
The sad thing is that the American guy was Greek Orthodox. He had the true faith in the true God and abandoned that. The Atlantic ran an article about him months ago. I wonder why family did not raise him as a true Christian.
Biff H says
There are many raised in the Christian faith that can’t get over the hump of forgiving those that have trespassed against them. Let’s see, I can’t bring myself to love my enemies. What ideology gives me license to hate? No only hate but torturing and gutting my detractors is deemed a pious act. Become one of Muhammad’s monsters.
billybob says
Why do these guys always have that same ‘dead fish’ look in their eye I wonder? Maybe a computer AI program could recognize that look and screen these people out at the border?
Don Foss says
Their soul is gone.
David Ramseur says
Or possessed by a spirit that manifests that look.
Jeanette says
Great idea!
px fragonard says
That’s true. Good perception. If you’ve ever passed through Israeli customs, you’ll see they ask you questions and watch your eyeballs very carefully. I don’t think El Al has had an incident since 1971, if I remember rightly.
don vito says
This mo worshipper needs a sever case of islam debunking.
FYI says
Why convert to islam?
Because you are permitted to murder and hate in islam.The islamic allah of the koran sanctions it.That is why you see islamic supremacist ideology often attracts evil men who,by converting to islam,believe themselves free to murder in the name of their new found allah.But you are NOT free to break God’s Commandments despite what the koran says.
Almighty God(the Biblical version)does not sanction murder,evil or hatred.
Almighty God(the Judeo-Christian version)is revealed as a God of Love in the Two Chief Commandments-found both in Judaism and Christianity-but interestingly enough,COMPLETELY MISSING in the koran/islam.It seems allah/mahomet completely missed those all important Chief Commandments..resulting in a false image of Almighty God as being a tyrant,devoid of love and compassion;allah is a god of hate,violence,fear,conquest and war.That is NOT Almighty God!
What happens with converts to islam,if born Christian is that …
They exchange..
The revealed Truth for a counterfeit falsehood.
Salvation for no salvation.
Almighty God for the adversary of God.
It is their God-given choice of course to use their free will but a convert to islam will not fool Almighty God.
To commit murder is condemned by God(It is sanctioned by allah against “the unbelievers” but God’s Sixth commandment is what counts).
An ex-Christian convert to islam cannot claim ignorance of God’s Commandments
and cannot expect to be excused for committing murder just because allah and the koran say so.That will not work with God in His Judgement.
So if you are an ex-Christian convert to islam…
Do NOT expect salvation(for you have rejected it:allah is NOT God)
Do NOT expect mercy from God if you knowingly commit murder.You won’t get it.
Do NOT imagine some paradise awaits you:murderers are enemies of God.
Some muslims are beginning to discover that allah is NOT the same as Almighty God.
allah sanctions murder:Almighty God condemns it.
allah may promise rewards for those who murder in jihad but remember that God’s Sixth commandment makes it clear that murder is a sin against God and unrepentant sinners will NOT be saved.Especially converts to islam……
Jeanette says
Do these people actually think that Paradise is going to be all the murdering, torturing, raping Muslim brothers sitting around bragging?
And their Allah will be sitting there with them, nodding at the stories, and asking for details on the rapes?
Monsters, just like their Allah/Ba’al/Moloch/Satan.
eagle says
Good word!!. Should the infidels say: O Allah! Destroy anyone who killed the infidels, O Allah! Destroy anyone who displaced the sons of the infidels. O Allah! Count their number; slay them one by one and spare not one of them, O Allah! Purify Al-Aqsa Mosque from the filth of the Muslims!”? O Allah! command the Muslims to burn the Quran as it preaches hate and discus at the infidels. O Allah! claim and profess that God and Jesus Christ is the Savior of the world. O Allah and Mohammad are the gate keepers of hell.
Islamist attacks are very much related to Muslims – all Islamists are Muslims, even though most Muslims are not Islamists, to be a good Muslim, a Muslim must obey Mohammad and live by the Quran. Do we feel comfortable having this growing Muslim population in our country, knowing that their ultimate goal is too cleanse the earth of all nonbelievers? Are we okay allowing them to take over our local, state and eventually federal governments?” Are we OK knowing that the chief danger with Muslim leaders was that “ultimately they will try to implement Sharia Law? The Obama administration admitted the Muslims over the Christians refugees for a reason.
utis says
All American traitors to ISIS should have a high priority on the to-be-droned list. They are giving America’s enemies too much info on how to infiltrate and move here undetected, even if the traitors give no literal military service.
John A. Marre says
Anyone who converts to Islam has ipso facto repudiated his American citizenship, and consequently must be deported and kept out of the country. Islam advocates the violent overthrow of the US government, and is incompatible with the US Constitution.
Angemon says
“Anyone who converts to Islam has ipso facto repudiated his American citizenship, and consequently must be deported and kept out of the country.”
Just a couple of questions:
a) What can you tell, from one’s conversion to islam, about what they know of islam?
b) Where do you suggest one “deport” a native American citizen to? And under which law(s)?
Jeanette says
I suspect that some of the male converts are looking forward to a long career of raping girls and women.
Perhaps we shouldn’t be terribly concerned about the rights of people who have declared that they are going to kill all of us, except the juicy little children? Perhaps we should re-write the laws that are currently helping the Muslims destroy western civilization (and in the process, the entire world)?
Angemon says
“Perhaps we shouldn’t be terribly concerned about the rights of people who have declared that they are going to kill all of us”
Isn’t that the line of thinking that lead people to punch “Nazis” and call for the death of Trump?
IQ al Rassooli says
Ibn Q Rassooli · Gibraltar
The enclosed video should be shown on Hannity and or every other conservative TV show because it utterly destroys the FALSE mantra of ‘peaceful Muslims’ forever
Please spread the following 6 minutes video PROVING that Muslims will NEVER be LOYAL citizens anywhere NOT Islamic
This video has more than one million views already
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJnW8HRHLLw&t=2s
IQ al Rassooli
Kafir & Proud!
px fragonard says
Robert: I read the first sentence three times and I think I have a passable understanding of it but could you please rewrite it so it makes sense?
billybob says
It boggles the mind 🙂
Ric says
Converts to any religion/cult/doctrine, in this case, more often than not are the most fanatical, hardcore fundamentalist, true-believer. Muslims hold no affinity or fidelity to a state/nation, that is not an Islamist nation. Western democracies, thus far, are deemed infidels, heretics, adversaries to Islam. Muslims will not assimilate or adapt to another culture, other than those under the domination of Islam.
Our western leadership weak-kneed and spineless apologists refute this fact. This does not bode well because sooner than later Sharia Law will be legalized to appease people who refuse to partake in Western principles, laws or dictum. Our Judeo/Christian principles have been whittled away year by year… it is only a matter of time that there will nothing left to whittle. Now, Islam foresees, sniffs-out predator-like, weakness, a leadership whose lifeblood is appeasement and absolute death-wish, namely, political-correctness.
Beagle says
Graeme Wood wrote a long piece on this stoner jihadi. His family is not the cause of this. He rejected his family.
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/03/the-american-leader-in-the-islamic-state/510872/
Meredith says
The only way this will stop is the way all things of this magnitude stop: revolution.