“Former Yugoslavia”? Yugoslavia ceased to exist in 1992. That was 25 years ago. Why is that still a point of reference? Why don’t they say he is from the former Austro-Hungarian Empire? Can’t the police be a bit more specific? Is this axe attacker a Catholic from Croatia? Orthodox from Serbia? Or…a Muslim from Bosnia or Kosovo? Why are authorities being so coy, just as they were in the case of the Heidelberg vehicle/knife attack, in which they identified the attacker as a “German national” without releasing his name or addressing the question of his religion? This doesn’t allay suspicions, it only increases them. And given the fact that terror motives have been dismissed in so very many other cases, including the Fort Hood jihad massacre, unless and until we receive more information the authorities’ assertion that this was not terror cannot prudently be taken at face value. What’s more, obvious jihad attacks have often been dismissed as acts by people with “mental health problems.”
“Man arrested after injuring seven people in Düsseldorf axe attack,” Guardian, March 9, 2017:
A man was arrested after injuring seven people with an axe at Düsseldorf’s main train station on Thursday night, police have said.
In a statement, they described the man as a 36-year-old from the former Yugoslavia who apparently had mental health problems. Police said three of the victims were seriously injured, with the others suffering minor injuries. The suspect was also injured.
Earlier, a spokesman for federal police had said two people were arrested and further attackers might be on the run. This was later corrected by police who confirmed only one arrest.
Police said there was no indication of a terrorist motive behind the attack….
gretel says
It can’t be an African or muslim or the tv news would have said so. (Sarcasm of course).
gravenimage says
Dusseldorf axe attacker arrested, from “former Yugoslavia,” cops say no terror motive
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Almost certainly Muslim–as we had guessed.
Peggy says
But that’s the beauty of it. We can only guess but cannot be sure and that’s how they like it.
In our hearts we can be certain but we cannot say anything like that publically.
Frank says
Even if he isn’t Muslim, his style is in a copycat, new Muslim mode.
gravenimage says
He has a Muslim name and is from Muslim-majority Kosovo.
R Cole says
I was trying to find more details on the Heidelberg car attack – days later, not even a name.
Merkel’s taken up the Obama mantle – convert to Islam beheads woman and then tries to do the same to another, while shouting Allah Akbar – the police say motive wasn’t clear and Obama declares it, workplace violence.
Merkel wants to get reelected. Terrorist attacks every few weeks – ruining her chances, especially with her hopes of continuing her mass immigration plans.
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Thank god for Trump!! No one had to convince him, he’d already made up his mind. It’s not going to be dangerous for one generation, but generations to come. He said the US has enough problems.
roger woodhouse says
The man has ‘mental health problems’.Almost certainly a muslim then.!You have to be half barmy to be a follower of that ‘religion’.
Mockingjay says
– And those “Psychological Problems” – HOW THE HELL did they assess THAT so swiftly – especially since they shot him and he’s probably been in a coma ever since?
– Does the police now all have degrees in psychiatry?
– They can make these assesments that would take thorough examination by several psychiatrists?
Oh – I’m sure that an axe-wielding lunatic would make quite a crazed impression on his terrified victims.
– But that don’t mean he’s crazy.
And like I said – in all my years living in Europe I cannot remember we EVER had an epidemic like we have now of “psychological disturbed” people hacking into people, driving their cars intentionally into crowds, – or all those other “incidents” of “unexplainable” violence.
– The only question that I have about all this is HOW DUMB DOES THE “ELITE RULING CLASS” REALLY THINK WE, THE PEOPLE, ARE?
ALL OF THIS is a DEROGATION of all of us.
gravenimage says
True, Mockingjay. Here’s Robert Spencer on the subject:
“Video: Robert Spencer on the global outbreak of mental illness”
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/06/video-robert-spencer-on-the-global-outbreak-of-mental-illness
Moreover, there are all sorts of mental illness–people who are neurotic, delusional, etc–few of these people are actually violent. Would that this wee true of pious Muslims.
Custos Custodum says
Obama and Merkel both front for shady international interests who want to make the world safe for billionaires. The rest of the population are to be relegated to the roles of slaves and sexual playthings, or murdered altogether to avoid impinging on the billionaires’ pristine views.
This is the real purpose of the massive initiative to import male Muslim hordes to rape, rob and destroy social trust among the native populations on Europe and the U.S. Remember that even during her campaign, Hillary Clinton openly promised to import a million “Syrian” refugees.
Does anyone believe Hillary – who intentionally turned Libya into a failed state – cares about the Muslims as such? Does anyone think that Angela “Multi-Culti Has Failed” Merkel really had a sudden epiphany and succumbed to sudden-onset oriental obsession (SOOO)?
JawsV says
When are we going to hear the Muslim’s name?
andra says
Fatmir H.
As I googled this is an Albanian name.
JawsV says
Albania? So, what happened to the “former Yugoslavia?”
Can you provide the link with his name?
gravenimage says
Here you go, Jaws:
“Suspect in German train attack was an asylum seeker from Kosovo, officials say”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/several-injured-in-axe-attack-at-duesseldorf-train-station/2017/03/09/366557e8-0513-11e7-9d14-9724d48f5666_story.html
“BERLIN — The suspect in an ax attack at a German train station that wounded nine people Thursday was a mentally disturbed asylum seeker from Kosovo, officials said Friday…the suspect in the attack was identified in the German news outlet Spiegel Online as 36-year-old Fatmir H.”
Voytek Gagalka says
“Former Yugoslavia”? Translation: Mohammedan Bosnia. Or perhaps Islamic Kosovo, as a sort of delayed “thank you” repayment for “liberation” (read: NATO’s aggression) in which also Germany heavily participated. The best proof that Mohammedans were doing that jihad attack also this time is the silence about their identity. I am absolutely certain that if this would be done by anybody else, say Serbs or Croats, all official media would be enthusiastically trumpeting about it just to prove that also non-Mohammedans can be terrorists.
Peggy says
Or better still a Jew. Now the whole world would be shouting it.
Kay says
Agreed. If they knew for certain he wasn’t Mohammeden, they would tell clearly what he is–just to exonerate Mohammedens.
It makes no sense to say former Yugoslavia unless he left there when it was actually Yugoslavia. But that’s highly unlikely.
Remember when this kind of thing was unheard of? When it would have made front page news worldwide?
Jaladhi says
By the cops’ definition, Islam appears to be an illness!
Rufolino says
Well the cops got something right !
Jaladhi says
> “The [Dusseldorf] suspect seems to have psychological problems,” the [police] said in a statement.”<
This is the first crutch or fall position of the West – all those lone wolf Muslims have mental problems – it is never their being a Muslim, a follower of Islam which corrodes and corrupts the human mind!
RichardL says
thing is, it is true: they do have psychological problems. Or at least one: islam
andra says
The so-called psychological problem of that murderer is his imminent deportation back home.
And it makes sense in Germany to become criminal at that point. As soon as you are persecuted for a crime the deportation will be detained in order to put you to court first.
And, as you can be sure that this guy will not flee he will stay out of prison until his court proceedings begin.
overman says
“German authorities have been on high alert for possible terrorist activity in recent years after a series of deadly attacks in the country, including an attack by an ax-wielding man.
Five people were injured on July 18, 2016, when a man with an ax attacked passengers on a train in Wuerzburg in Southern Germany, according to the BBC.
The attacker, an asylum seeker from Pakistan named Muhammed Riyad, was fatally shot by police. Police said Riyad left behind a martyrdom video, which was distributed by ISIS. He claimed he was instructed by ISIS to use an ax in the attack.
ISIS has distributed materials to its followers instructing them to attack using whatever method available to them, whether it be with a gun, a knife, an ax or a vehicle”
Matthieu Baudin says
Looks like Deutschland has become a terror free zone; congratulations Frau Merkel.
Luiz says
2 dead, 1 critically injured after gunmen open fire in Swiss cafe
https://www.rt.com/news/380066-swiss-cafe-shooting-attack/
gravenimage says
Horrible, Luiz. Thank you for the link.
freedom says
Another savage attack covered in the fetid shroud of violent Islam —–maybe ——maybe not.
The hallmarks are there.
This would be one of the first inferences that most people would draw and justifiably so.
Islam can blame its own inherent violent nature for this.
Romans says
Mental Illness? I’ll tell you who has the mental illness: Angela Burqa and her supporters. Stick a fork in Germany…
gravenimage says
The Muslim population of Germany is still under 6%. Why would you counsel Germans to roll over for this savagery? Patriotic Germans can still take their country back.
TG says
Definitely a Muslim.
Pandit Technology says
Three people seriously injured and I hope they are the ones who were holding signs refugees welcome for the Islamic fundamentalist. I can bet my last dollar that those three are not refugees themselves. Else the leaders of the FREE WORLD would have already cried for them on main media and TV. Though, I really wish no innocent suffers fatalities. I used to think that it is actually very bad (anti-democratic) when President Trump used to say that he will jail Clinton for her misdeeds. I now firmly believe that the Media, the politicians, even the “investigators” who are trying to “shield” the Islamic terrorist perpetrators, by using terms like work place violence, etc, should be tried and sentenced for WAR CRIMES, or Crimes against Humanity. They ( Main Stream Media, liberal politicians etc) are committing CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY by shielding these animals. We demand and it’s our right to know the truth and by lying to us, they are making each of us a potential victim. Is it really justice that we, in the FREE WORLD, are being put up for slaughter next? Book them for CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY quickly and rest will immediately fall in line. Right now these cowards only fear the Islamic terrorist, so they appease them.
Frank Anderson says
Pandit, IN THEORY, if US law applied, 18 USC Section 2 says that anyone who aids, abets, counsels or acts in furtherance of a federal crime is equally guilty. There is a case, again in US law, that says
It is well established that
[t]]he elements of a conspiracy . . . are: (1) an agreement between two or more persons, (2) an unlawful purpose, and (3) an overt act committed by one of the conspirators in furtherance of the conspiracy . . . . The existence of the conspiracy can be proved by inference evidence . . . . Direct evidence of an agreement to join a criminal conspiracy is rare, so a defendant’s assent can be inferred from acts furthering the conspiracy’s purpose. The government is not required to prove that each alleged conspirator knew all the details of the conspiracy; it is enough to establish that a defendant knew the essentials of the conspiracy . . . that the defendant intended to join or associate himself with the objective of the conspiracy . . . even if he did not join it until after its inception, and even if he played only a minor role in the total scheme [20, pp. 1093-94]. United States v. Gary Greenough, 609 F. Supp 1090, 1094 (DC Ala. 1985).
For “entertainment” ponder all the people who are potentially subject to prosecution. How would a jury see them at trial? Perhaps 1 day we will see some collaborators on trial. BTW, this is a case conducted by AG Jeff Sessions when he was US Attorney. Good work, Mr. Sessions.
Pandit Technology says
Frank u r absolutely correct in your observations. BTW if u know any lawyer willing to initiate this, I am ready to contribute….has to start some place…the Sick B!@#$!#$ CAIR has a fleet of lawyers of the same cloth ….I would like to be able to do a monthly contribution for Lawyers to prosecute these liberal turds…best dollars I will spent ..I am ready….in fact I will also actively scout for lawyer for this…sud be free international publicity for lawyers I think…let’s c..
Frank Anderson says
Pandit, (absolutely nothing but MY opinion), if you are in the US you are already contributing to the legal team that is most likely to proceed, and win. Jeff Sessions will not sit by and let this current conspiracy proceed without challenge. He was, to say the very least, aggressive as US Attorney in the Southern District of Alabama during the Reagan administration. Private parties can “assist” enforcement of federal law. In Re Quarles, 158 U.S. 532 (1895) (The duty and right to assist law enforcement is so fundamental to the essential function of Constitutional government that it existed at the original creation of the governing authority, long before the adoption of the Bill of Rights.) Like Sheriff Arpaio in Phoenix, who is a retired federal agent (FBI?), there must be a federal authority willing to cooperate and actually enforce existing law. I hope Sessions will lead that enforcement.
If you see information that can help a case, talk to your lawyer, currently licensed and practicing in your state, and do what is necessary to provide you the 2 favorite and most important words in an informant’s life, IMMUNITY and ANONYMITY. Roviaro v. U.S., 353 U.S. 53 (1956) (informant and rights described). Under no circumstances should you act publicly; because retaliation will be swift, sure and probably deadly. Unless people are prepared to come forward, what we watch daily will get worse.
The reason that I am so familiar with these issues is that I reported the theft of more than $200 million dollars in present value about 35 years ago. I have spent years in research and court litigation on this subject. God has seen fit to allow me to live this long, but also saw fit to force me to retire. Time for younger and more skilled people to carry on this fight. Passing on the research is still in my power.
Pandit Technology says
Frank..I learnt about the precautions and thank you for your time to explain. IMMUNITY and ANONYMITY. …Yeah, the direction was good and well, I am actively going to work,, towards creating a like minded group of folks and a proper Licenced Lawyer for this purposes. I will use whatever and do whatever, to preserve the freedom and free thoughts, under attack from these Islamic Jehadists. These liberals, lefist supporting Jehadist are totally ignorant people, do they not know that the future( which is happening now), would have less jobs due to automation, AI etc. Why are they wanting more of these useless scums in their countries, who will just be parasites on their countries,to make up for low birth rates?…They should work towards helping young people of their countries with assistance to help create familiies, rather than mporting parasites……..
Frank Anderson says
Pandit, please ask your lawyer to review an article published by the Securities Exchange Commission regarding a rule-making proposing requiring corporate lawyers to “blow the whistle” on internal wrongdoing. The article (with an explanatory transmittal letter) is titled “When to Keep Silent: Protection for the Truth.” I believe it has been published on WestLaw, Lexis or both. I have some familiarity with that article.
Have you watched enough television to see stories about people telling crooks they are going to the cops, only to be killed before making the contact or shortly before a meeting takes place? An informant is entitled to anonymity only if his identity is not already known to the bad guys. Tell no one except a lawyer who is committed to your case and safety. Your lawyer may need to go through 1 or more other lawyers to protect your identity. That is explained in the article. Best wishes.
Pandit Technology says
‘cops say mental illness, no terror motive”….really so the cops are also genius and psychologist, who can immediately pass judgement …and tell us WHAT TO THINK….no thank you….Just tell me the facts…and let me draw my own conclusion…and leave it to the Judge and Court to decide on the motives etc…JUST GIVE THE FACTS…THE TRUTH….Mr Spencer is a true humanitarian, I kind of keep picturing him as the the time traveler from H.G Wells novel, which I read a long time ago in school, trying to protect the civilization from Morlocks aka..Islamic Terrorists…
August West says
That police man sure looKs like he is loaded for bear…. an m4 rifle complete with a red dot locked and loaded and a side arm with body armor all for a mentally ill guy who “injured” some people with an ax.
Nope no reason to suspect terrorism at all.
Looks perfectly normal to me.
jay says
Too bad, the politicians, the news media and the police have fallen for Islam’s penchant for telling lies, so as to control, and manipulate the people. Without a true sense of morality, guess where things go? – in the shitter. Every single nation that applies Islamic jurisprudence, or ‘anti-blasphemy laws’…has a problem with the truth, and its justice system is breached by this insidious Islamic ideology.
Artus says
Former Austro-Hungarian Empire was Former Ottoman Empire with lot of mosques
Relic says
where’s Champ
Baucent says
” Why don’t they say he is from the former Austro-Hungarian Empire? ” Ha Ha
Why indeed? As usual Robert asking the awkward question. And how do they know mental illness played any part, I would think there was no time to make a diagnosis.
Rufolino says
But the German police now routinely make psychological diagnoses. (If their diagnosis hushes up the true nature of the crime.)
Merkel thinks ordinary people are fools who can be conned.
RazvanM says
http://www.spiegel.de/panorama/justiz/duesseldorf-kein-terror-anschlag-mutmasslicher-taeter-wohl-psychisch-labil-a-1138118.html
Kosovo Muslim.
Crusades Were Right! says
Düsseldorf, eh?
So someone from “former Yugoslavia” went crazy/violent in “former Prussia”…
…or should that be “former Holy Roman Empire”?
Kay says
Right. All those borders are just lines on a map anyway. sarc/off
epistemology says
It’s business as usual, the German authorities are always eager to assure the public that a terrorist crime has no religious background, no Islamic background mind you. The public is permanently conned.
Former Yugoslavia or Austro-Hungarian Empire he could be from the old Roman Empire as well. But don’t you dare call him a Muslim or member of the ummah.
555333 says
Funny how suddenly they resurrect Yugoslavia. Guy is Albanian from Kosovo – German pet state.
Cthulhu says
Daily Mail says the guy is from Kosovo.
Crusades Were Right! says
A Limerick
Jihadi? More infidel-crushin’?
The cops: “Hold your horses! No rushin!”
So now all we have
Is: “Former South Slav
Axed someone” (My guess: “former” Prussian?)
Robert John Bennett says
The German press is still saying he’s from “the former Yugoslavia,” but if you read farther down in this article (https://goo.gl/01h7aa), they do admit he’s from Kosovo, which is of course 90% Muslim. The article also states he’s from Wuppertal, which is one of the no-go areas controlled by Muslims, near Dusseldorf. The authorities, however, are being coy about admitting he’s a Muslim.
So again we have an example of this outbreak of “mental illness” by a man who cannot be identified as Muslim, since such an identification is not permitted in Germany. It’s not politically correct, because such attacks, naturally, (does it have to be said?) “have nothing whatsoever to do with Islam.”
duh swami says
Islam creates psychotic episodes in believers…
abad says
Oh lookie. We finally have a name.
Fatmir H.
http://www.heute.at/news/welt/Duesseldorf-Axt-Angreifer-wollte-erschossen-werden;art23661,1406807
An Albanian Muslim name, no less.
Kick him out of Germany.
ECAW says
And the Mail says he’s a Kosovan. Who would have guessed?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4298896/Terror-attack-feared-Dusseldorf.html
Dan King says
Always the “lone wolf” with “mental problems”. Well. Yes , any person who murders for islam DOES have mental problems.
Jeanette says
History says that the chances are that the attacker is a bloodthirsty Muslim.
Richie says
Once again a Muslim commits mass violence and once again western leftists try to protect the criminal
mortimer says
The Germans are so paranoid about being thought ‘Nazis’ that they have lost their ability to reason.
John A. Marre says
The media withheld anything that would indicate that it was a Muslim that did it.
Campos Mário says
Europeans must be thankful to the Pope , the witch Merkel and the EU !
Peggy says
Angemon says
March 10, 2017 at 9:07 am
Peggy posted:
“Every day this base remains in Kosovo, Kosovo remains detached from Serbia ”
Do you want Serbians to have to take in and “assimilate” jihadis from Kosovo? Grant jihadis from Kosovo a free pass into a Christian-majority nation where they would have a large supply of soft, civilian targets? Is that what you want?
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For your information Serbia is already suffering from Albanian population north of Kosovo. Albanians are not only in Kosovo. There are other areas in Serbia which have a majority of Albanian population as does neighbouring Macedonia. Albanians are doing what they can for now to cause problems there and take a chunk of Macedonia away.
It seems you want Serbia to just accept that 15% of their territory was just ripped away from them and not only just any 15% but their Jerusalem.
By your thinking, all Albanians have to do is cause problems, start wars and when the west comes to their aid rip away a part of a country, expel local population and then say that if that country wants t’s territory back they will have Jihadists to deal with.
You don’t reward bad behaviour like this.
I don’t want Serbia to suffer from the Jihadists, but Serbia has had 500 years of occupation by this evil and survived. If they are left alone they will deal with the problem nicely. First they will chuck out all the Albanians who have conveniently jumped over the border to boost up the numbers. Yes, that’s what happened or how else to you explain the fact that there is more Albanians living there now than before the war?
So when they come for a chunk of Macedonia do you have the same advice for them? Just let them have it because they will give you a Jihad problem.
Peggy says
gravenimage says
March 12, 2017 at 11:36 pm
Christianblood, you believe that the free West threatens Serbia, but that murderous Muslims do not? I know you have said similar things here before.
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I can’t tell you what he means reading his post but the west AND Muslims both threaten Serbia.
78 days and nights of bombing Belgrade is more than just a threat.
West had aligned themselves with Muslims back then and most definitely was a huge threat to Serbia as there is ample proof of that.
Now I am not sure about that. For as long as west supports independent Kosovo and is willing to bomb
Serbia again in order for them not to get it back they are still a threat but I don’t know if bombing would commence again on behalf of Albanians.
As I have always stated when I say the west I only mean the establishment not the people.