“Beck, whose manner is now more soft-spoken than it was in the days when he hosted a daily show on Fox News….”
Translation: “Beck, whom we used to detest but is now saying things that we at CBS News like…”
The article says: “He told Wagner that the fallout from failing to differentiate between Islamists and Muslims could have a dangerous cost: ‘We could see some sort of internment camp situation,’ he predicted, ‘if there is a December 7th.’”
Who is talking about interment camps? Only Leftists and hysterical Never-Trumpers. No one on the Trump team.
How does Beck propose to differentiate between Islamists and Muslims? He can define the difference, but can he tell one from the other? If Beck were President of the United States (heaven forfend), would he implement an “Islamist ban,” and keep all card-carrying “Islamists” out of the country? And what if they didn’t have Islamist membership cards? Would he have them questioned as to whether they believe that “the Qur’an supersedes the Constitution or any country and the country must be run by religious rule”? And how could he determine that their answers were honest?
What Beck and many others like him fail to admit, and perhaps fail to realize, is that there is no reliable way to distinguish “Islamists” from Muslims who are determined to come to the U.S. and be faithful, loyal, productive, patriotic citizens of a pluralistic society in which there is no established religion. Hence the immigration ban from certain countries that are hotbeds of jihad activity and from which numerous jihadis have entered the U.S.
Beck, of course, is famously erratic. In his 2007 book An Inconvenient Book, he said: “I have read the Koran and can tell you that I unequivocally believe that Islam is a religion of peace.” Then in 2015 he published a book entitled It IS About Islam, admitting that there were elements of Islamic teaching that jihadis used to justify violence and make recruits among peaceful Muslims.
Beck’s confusion may come from the fact that is an ardent disciple of “moderate” character assassin Zuhdi Jasser, although he sometimes calls him “Juhdi Zasser,” and recently had Jasser on his show again to repeat his defamation of me and other foes of jihad terror as “alt-jihadists,” because we note correctly that al-Qaeda and the Islamic State are working within Islamic teaching and tradition.
On the show, Beck likened us to Nazis, saying to Jasser: “And I see now why you’re calling it the alt-jihad because it is part of the alt-right movement. This all-on [sic] -nothing, Nazi kind of mentality of the alt-right needs all Muslims to be bad.” Now, I do not believe and have never stated that “all Muslims” are “bad,” and this is taking Jasser’s defamation to a new level. We disagree with Jasser about the nature of Islamic teaching and the prospects for Islamic reform. We are trying to preserve free and pluralistic societies. Jasser said this makes us jihadis. Now Beck says it also makes us Nazis.
If Glenn Beck is the man of ethics and integrity he claims to be, he will apologize to me and to Jasser’s other “alt-jihadists,” and engage in a discussion with us, public or private, about the relevant issues.
I won’t be waiting by the phone for his call.
“Glenn Beck defends Muslims in wake of new travel ban,” CBS News, March 16, 2017:
Former Fox News firebrand Glenn Beck said of President Trump’s newly revised travel ban that he agrees that an Islamist threat exists, but he criticized the White House, Congress and the media for failing to explain the difference between Islamists and Muslims.
In an interview with Alex Wagner on CBSN Thursday, Beck, a prominent never-Trumper who supported Ted Cruz’s presidential candidacy, said that the vast majority of Muslims in America are “no different than Catholics or Mormons.” An Islamist, on the other hand, believes “that the Koran supercedes [sic] the Constitution or any country” and the country must be run by religious rule. He told Wagner that the fallout from failing to differentiate between Islamists and Muslims could have a dangerous cost: “We could see some sort of internment camp situation,” he predicted, “if there is a December 7th.”
Beck was referring to the internment of Japanese Americans during World War II after the bombing of Pearl Harbor. “ We could head someplace we’ve been before and we don’t want to go again,” he warned.
Beck, whose manner is now more soft-spoken than it was in the days when he hosted a daily show on Fox News…
Jaladhi says
Glen Beck follows the standard Islamic apologist propaganda – Muslims are different than Islamists!! Moron!
There is no difference between the two – every Muslim is an Islamist!!
Ken says
It should come as no surprise. Beck is a Mormon and it’s amazing how much Islam and Mormonism have in common.
Men get multiple women to have eternal sex with.
both deny Jesus’ atonement on the cross
both say the Bible has been corrupted
both have new “holy books”
both books came from plates
both have new prophets
both prophets were visited by an angel
seven heavens
and it goes on and on and on
somehistory says
Before he moved to FOX, he made sense, at least most of the time. After he moved to FOX, he made sense. Since he left FOX, he hasn’t made as much and this is totally stupid.
tom parry says
I can only say the guy is wacky and i can only assume hewas dropped on the head at birth
Lioness says
I agree. I liked Beck on CNN because he was so different than CNN, he was a rebel. On Fox he fitted well with the Conservative atmosphere there, for a while, but some time later, his show derailed into bizzare conspiracy theories, and I stopped watching. Now he seems completely unhinged, and sounds like he would do well on MSNBC.
Born Again says
Beck, Mormon, no truth inside….next!
EmHotep says
There is NO difference between them. Anyone who wears Hijab and goes to mosque on friday (males) are the islamists. As the secular Turkish citizens we realized this too late.
Meanwhile, Turkish dictator erdogan has ordered to make at least 5 babies to Turkish migrants in EU. What else they have to say for the western people to understand 🙂
Guy Macher says
When libtards mean “devout Muslim”, they say “Islamist”. When libtards mean “moderate Muslim”, they say “Muslim”. The fact that all Muslims are commanded by Satan, aka Allah, to kill non-Muslims is ignored by libtards.
Paul N Silas says
I’m not certain if Beck believes what he says, is insane, say’s what he thinks will give him good ratings, or is drinking again.
I don’t trust anything this goof says, especially about Islam
Westman says
I think you’ve found Beck’s rationale. Anti-administration always sells. If Clinton was President he would be chewing on her administration.
Access to media is how he advertises his existence, so the new, “moderate” personality is about access and paying the bills. He’s a Chameleon.
RichardL says
He is a salesman. Totally agree. I used to go to the blaze every day. Haven’t been this year.
dsinc says
Me too, but stopped when it was revealed that he took money from Hillary
floridasandy says
Glenn is off his meds. .
Remember when he said you weren’t a Christian if you didn’t vote for Cruz.?(then he turned on Cruz, which seems to be a pattern with him)
Anti administration won’t sell as well when people have a patriotic populist president. He might figure that out someday, but I doubt it.
Robert McKenna says
florida:
The Blaze is out of bounds for me also. Anything the mentally disturbed Beck has anything to do with, is out of bounds. He needs to be committed !
Sky Martin says
That’s because your ignorant about Islam.
Godwin says
From the Asian view point, these western leaders, esp. the European ones are getting very, very stupid.
Jeanette says
From the western viewpoint (or at least from the conservative western viewpoint), the European leaders are getting stupid.
Or, are they gaining something from selling their populations out to Islam?
John says
I have wondered about the drinking again too. Beck lost me about 2 years after he left Fox.
common sense says
If Beck were President of the United States (heaven forfend), would he implement an “Islamist ban,” and keep all card-carrying “Islamists” out of the country? -That’s a good one!
So now I’m a Nazi for bringing attention to a supremacist culture and monotheistc dream of a world caliphate. Beck please see violence in Berkeley on Trump supporters and the riots there from earlier this year. That’s the definition of Facism.
Voytek Gagalka says
The same Glenn Beck who stabbed “the tea party” movement in the back by connecting it with “neo-Nazis” along the leftist lines. He always only pretended to be conservative but his mask finally went off. So no wonder he is sinking further on this particular issue as well. If you want to see how real deplorable loser and traitor looks like, see (and hear) current Glenn Beck.
BARBARA LEE BROOKS says
The only branches of Islam that are peaceful are certain Sufi groups and the Ahmadi’s. They consider the violence to be part of a past era which offers spiritual lessons, rather than a literal model to copy.
Basically, anybody who follows Sunni or Shia Islam will have ideas against the Constitution, if they are devout.
Of course, many just go through the motions, but just being Sunni or Shia drastically increases the chance that the children will go for extremism, even if the parents are lukewarm about religion.
Jeanette says
A Muslim who ceases to follow the Koran is automatically no longer a Muslim, according to Islam itself.
So peaceful branches of Islam are not Islam, but Islam’s own definition, and they are not the problem.
The rest who call themselves Muslims all follow a book that commands that they kill us (saving small children for raping and young girls for Muslim broodmares, of course).
I don’t understand what is so complicated about that, that so many Americans cannot seem to grasp it (not speaking of you here, Barbara; just rambling)!
Steve Klein says
I have Glenn Beck’s book, “It IS About Islam: Exposing the Truth About ISIS, Al Qaeda, Iran, and the Caliphate.” It is not bad. I figured Mr. Beck got some help writing it as he is not a scholar on Islam to my knowledge. He is (for lack of a better word) eclectic in his interests and writings.
For purposes of comparison, I typed “Islamist” in Kindle “Search” for Beck’s book: 61 matches. By comparison, Robert Spencer’s, “The Politically Correct Guide to Islam (And the Crusades),” has three, the one a quote from Ibn Warraq on Islam. The other two from MEMRI.org.
mortimer says
FANTASY? Glen Beck is creating an alternate reality for those who believe in unicorns.
Muslim prof Katherine Bullock just said that SHARIA AND THE CALIPHATE are NORMATIVE ISLAM, and NOT ‘extremism’. More
Sell-out Glen Beck is fooling no one. Why doesn’t he go back to being a conservative?
MR. BECK, THE FOLLOWING EXPLANATION IS FOR YOU:
“Islamism is not a caricature, nor a counterfeit, nor a heresy, nor a fringe or atypical phenomenon versus classical, orthodox, Sunnite Islam.
To the contrary, I think Islamism is naked Islam, Islam without a mask and without paint, Islam perfectly consistent and true to itself, an Islam that has the courage and lucidity to go all the way to its ultimate conclusions and final implications.
Islamism is Islam in all its logic and in all its rigour. Islamism is present in Islam as the chick is present in the egg, as the fruit is present in the flower and as the tree is present in the seed.
But what is Islamism?
Islamism is political Islam, the bearer of a project for a model society and whose aim is to establish a theocratic state based on Sharia, the only legitimate law—since it is divine—since it was revealed and enshrined in the Koran and Sunna—it’s a law that applies to everything.
Here is an all-inclusive and all-encompassing project, one that is total, totalizing and totalitarian.” -Fr. Henri Boulad SJ
Robert McKenna says
As long as islam is intolerant of any other religion what-so-ever, and its members follow the Koran, it is a danger to all civilizations. A bloody, killing, torturing danger !
Jeanette says
Anyone who follows the commands of any book that orders that everyone other than the followers of that book be enslaved or killed is a danger to every civilization that doesn’t follow such a book.
It just so happens that the only such book is the Koran, and the only people evil enough to even consider following it are the Muslims.
Walter Sieruk says
Glenn Beck most be a very ignorant man to bash on President Trump for failing to “differentiate between Islamic and Muslims” Beck had even exposes his own ignorance by even using the PC fake word “Islamist.” For the bogus word “Islamist was make after September 11, 2001. in order not to offend upset non-violent Muslims. Therefore , whenever a murderous Islamic terror attacks occurs the violent and dangerous person who committed the jihad terror attack is not really an “Islamist” terrorist but an actual Muslim terrorist. It’s very important to keep within the bound of reality and call people and things for what they actually are.. Likewise, another artificial word of this dishonest politically correct “New Speak” is the false word “Islamism” The fake word was also made up after 9/11 to make non-violence Muslims happy. There is not such this as “Islamism.” It’s just Islam.
Westman says
“An Islamist, on the other hand, believes “that the Koran supercedes [sic] the Constitution or any country” ”
This is the official Quranic and Sunna supported ideology of Islam! It is simply unrealistic, until there are sufficient numbers, to replace civil man-made law with Muhammad’s “revealed” shariah.
“..the vast majority of Muslims in America are “no different than Catholics or Mormons.””
Why just this morning I was awakened by a Mormon with a Bull Horn, sounding like a suffering cat, calling the community for prayer at their temple. And on my way, fearing my house could be burned if I didn’t, the road was blocked with thousands of Catholics already prostrating in the street. I guess they blocked the street out of respect for the laws of our country. Darn, gotta take a break here – some woman in a short skirt is walking by and my Diety wants me to call her a slut.
It is wonderful to realize that our religions are all the same. I wonder what religion would be proud to have Glenn Beck?
Terry Gain says
No, that diety wants you to rape that woman in the short skirt.
Paul N Silas says
Can anyone here tell me where the Trump administration has proposed “concentration camps” for Muslims, or anybody else for that mater.
IT’S A TRAVEL BAN, NOT A NEW NAZI PARTY , STUPID!
Beck is just po’d because his ego got kicked in the groin when Trump beat out Cruz.
The founder of the cult that Beck adheres to actually borrowed from the Quran, and spoke highly of Mohammed.
SteveFinSC says
As a frequent listener to Beck’s program, I can say that I’m rather baffled by many of the things that he’s said in the last year. His fear with regard to Trump is that he’s going to set himself up as a dictator by disregarding the Constitution. Thus his concern about internment camps. Beck has always expressed concern with Trumps apparent lack of respect for or ignorance of the Constitution. He feels the man is capable of as many unconstitutional acts as Obama. I have not seen that. Trump is not a professional politician. He is a businessman. When someone asks him what he wants to do, like a businessman, he comes out initially with his most extreme position but then negotiates down to something acceptable to all sides. The media and the Establishment don’t understand that.
As for Beck, I think he is more of a intuitive person than a logical person. He goes with his gut. As a result, he’s going to get it wrong sometimes. He also will make connections that others ignore, because his gut just says that’s the way it feels. I don’t really think there’s any nefarious intent in his statements or positions. I know I wrestled with this past election myself (the primaries anyway), so I can understand someone being unsure of what’s going on sometimes.
Terry Gain says
Beck should be introduced to Professor Katherine Bullock. He is indeed a useful idiot. The United States will either ban Islam or it will become Islamic. Jasser is a fraud.
awake says
Glenn has been confused for quite some time now…
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2007/09/playing-pretend-with-glenn-beck
mortimer says
He confuses his WISHFUL THINKING about Islam moderation with reality. He thinks Islam 1) jihad doctrine and 2) Islamic Apartheid Doctrine (al Walaa wal Baraa) are NOT THE ‘REAL’ ISLAM.
Glenn Beck makes up a FANTASY version of Islam that is soothing.
davej says
No one is suggesting internment but we do want a vigorous policy of deporting those who threaten or seek to undermine American law and values.
Call it re-homing, back to the countries that have the system they so admire, never mind that they are all backward hellholes.
Alec Rawls says
Trump DOES plan to distinguish, as far as possible, between Islamists and ethnic Muslims who reject violently supremacist Islamic interpretations. That is the meaning of “extreme vetting.” If we can’t determine that a person is NOT a believer in Islamic conquest then he won’t be allowed in. Perfect.
As for the relationship between Islamism and Islam, it’s pretty simple: an Islamist (an aggressively violent Islamic supremacist) is an ORTHODOX Muslim, as defined by a thousand years of Islamic jurisprudence and the Sharia law that it gives rise to. Any Muslim who supports sharia is an Islamist and must be kept out. That is a clear majority of all Muslims living in the West and the vast majority of the current crop of mis-named “refugees” (actually invaders).
Catherine says
EXACTLY!
Troybeam says
Your a fraud Glen Beck, turncoat who should bury his head on some remote Island with no means of communication to anyone.
AnneCrockett says
1. Glenn Beck is not a useful idiot. Glenn Beck is a useless idiot.
2. The ENTIRE POINT of the ban is to stop all immigration from problem countries UNTIL a method of vetting can be established. So Beck is complaining that Trump does not discriminate between benign and harmful immigrants when the whole reason for the ban is that we cannot do so.
Wellington says
I gave up on Glenn Beck years ago for a specific reason: He suffers from a very bad case of histrionics coupled with limited knowledge.
All downhill since that time for Beck for me. No better proof for this than what this article relates.
The man is an embarrassment to himself. I predict he’ll never realize this. He’ll go to his grave an uninformed human being (though sadly and most probably a rich one——–damn, sometimes life just isn’t fair).
Kilfincelt says
Duh!!! Why does Beck think that Trump wants a temporary ban on people coming in from certain Muslim countries? I thought that Trump was very clear. He wanted the government to do a better job of vetting so that we can determine who is a strong supporter of Islam and who isn’t.
I listened to a recording of Jasser on the Beck radio channel re: alt-jihadists. He said some stuff that was nonsense. He seems to be working hard to somehow make people believe that Islam can be reformed to make it peaceful. He doesn’t seem to believe that Mohammad was a peodiphile, murder, thief, misogynist, etc. except that all the biographies say that he was.
I come down on the side of Robert Spencer. If Islam could be made peaceful, that would be great, but I don’t really believe that will happen. Islam’s texts–Koran, Hadiths, biographies of Mohammad–contain too many incendiary passages for that to happen.
don vito says
Mr. Spencer thanks for the headsup about Mr. Beck, I would never had learned of this, if not for you. It would seem that Mr. Beck doesn’t want to offend Mr. Jasser, so Mr. Beck writes that you, Mr. Spencer, are a Nazi. Most comtemptible! Since when is US government issuing or not issuing visas any thing on the order of internment camps? Keeping dangerous foreigners from our country would prevent the need of interment camps. Foolishness, Mr. Beck, beyond measure!
don vito says
I would never have learned of this
Mo says
Didn’t he used to be on our side? (Or so I thought. I never followed him much.)
Shmooviyet says
He seemed to be years ago on Fox, with his chalkboard lessons on Cloward-Piven, Soros, Van Jones & co. Although he didn’t talk much about islam, as I recall. He didn’t come across as preaching to the Fox choir, but…
The whole conservative radio crew just adores that ‘Juhdi’, but Beck takes it further. Maybe he’s on a new search for another religion to save his soul from all those evil riches.
And Glenn: IF there is “a December 7” ?!??
Matthieu Baudin says
A ban needs to err on the side of tightness rather than slackness to have a greater chance of being effective. Once a ban is in place the results can be monitored and changes made on a trial and error basis to shape it into something that brings results.
Catherine says
Internment camps???!!! Weird.
I would encourage self-deportation for those who do not wish to live in the world with the rest of us.
Sharia is incompatible with our Constitution. There are plenty of other countries in which to live under Sharia.
How does one practice religious tolerance toward those whose religion prescribes intolerance of any other religion?
Just some thoughts….
Shmooviyet says
I wonder that exact thing, whenever I see one of those dopey “co-exist” bumper stickers. Someday I’ll get the chance to ask the owner how he hopes to exist, with a whole lot of people who’d rather HE didn’t. (exist, that is.)
I hope I don’t get knocked down or punched in the face.
A Lee says
Mr. Beck seems to forget that the Japanese internment camps were used to discriminate against AMERICAN citizens, not to detain immigrants. He’s comparing apples to oranges (or Cheetos, maybe).
Dianne says
I heard the conversation Beck had with a Muslim friend on his radio program wherein he made a big issue of this “Muslim” vs “Islamist” nomenclature. If my church started preaching beheading I would leave.
Creole Gumbo says
Will someone please give Glen Beck a teddy bear and a soccer ball?
Maybe he will shut up.
Gerald Mucci says
Beck is Mormon. Being Mormon, he is indoctrinated by the mainstream LDS belief that Islam and Mormonism have much in common and have shared histories of persecution. I listened to a lecture by a BYU Mormon professor of Middle Eastern Studies express his deep respect for the Islam “religion.” That feeling is shared by LDS hierarchy.
Beck is indeed a confused, conflicted human being.
We will not overcome the threat of Islam until we can distinguish between “religion” and Islam, which is a fascist political ideology as much as it is a religion. What a fantastically subversive combination of beliefs Islam is in a nation who values “religious” freedoms above all else.
Our Constitution, or the interpretation thereof up to this point, has not considered the implication of an orthodox Islamic insurgency in this country.
waterdog says
Glenn Beck has lost all touch with reality. Sirius XM should drop him from the Patriot Channel. He is more of a whiner than a patriot.
Jim Horn says
Beck is in tune with the LDS in supporting Islam’s subjugating our Constitution and imposing sharia in America.
John A. Marre says
An Islamist is someone who actually puts into the practice of Islam. They all profess the faith, but only a few actually carry out the murders and destruction that it commands.
ensitue says
I used to be his biggest fan even when he first attacked Trump but when he continued senseless after Trump’s nomination I canceled my subscription to The Blaze Network and have never looked back
Angemon says
Can he explain it? If I were to take him for a walk in Dearborn, Michigan, could he point out, of the muslims we met while walking in the streets, which were “islamists” and which weren’t? If not, he’s just talking a lot without saying a thing.
Gerald Mucci says
Very true. Every Muslim is a potential jihadi, stealth or otherwise. They are taught and encouraged to do what Muhammad did: impose Islam on every individual or have them pay the consequences according to Allah, the Qur’an, the Hadith, and Islamic tradition, which includes sharia, jihad, honor killings, taqiyya, slavery and any other means that fit the circumstance.
UNCLE VLADDI says
No True Muslims call themselves “islamists” – they all call each other “muslims” as their founder, Muhammad, taught them to!
As another poster recently noted here, concerning ‘radicalized’ and not-yet-radicalized “islamists” (muslims):
““We have a problem with a poisonous, deadly species of butterfly. But not with the caterpillars of the same species, just with the butterflies”. Doesn’t make any sense, does it?”
No – no, it really doesn’t!
😉
Ernie Parachnowitsch says
I used to find some insights in his commentaries but then he became a self-styled arbiter of morality or something and started sounding like a high priest of some anti Trump church. Only Beck knew who was good and who was bad, who to support and who to reject.
I switch off anytine he comes on Patriot. He doesn’t belong on that channel either.
Sh. N. says
Do ýou remember The Matrix movie?
Everyone inside the Matrix who had not been freed, was a potential AGENT.
I have learned and experienced that every single Muslim is a potential Islamist.
I have spent my precious life to fully learn , experience and understand it. I was a devoted Muslim. And I am sorry I wasted my time in believing in a buch of lies and fabricated history of greatness.
There has never been any great Islamic breakthroughs of knowledge; but there were some scientists under the sword of Islamists.
We have not tasted freedom since the invasion of Islam in 1400 years ago, except for a short period under the late Shah of Iran.