The Qur’an depicts the Jews as the strongest of all people in enmity toward the Muslims (5:82); as fabricating things and falsely ascribing them to Allah (2:79; 3:75, 3:181); claiming that Allah’s power is limited (5:64); loving to listen to lies (5:41); disobeying Allah and never observing his commands (5:13); disputing and quarreling (2:247); hiding the truth and misleading people (3:78); staging rebellion against the prophets and rejecting their guidance (2:55); being hypocritical (2:14, 2:44); giving preference to their own interests over the teachings of Muhammad (2:87); wishing evil for people and trying to mislead them (2:109); feeling pain when others are happy or fortunate (3:120); being arrogant about their being Allah’s beloved people (5:18); devouring people’s wealth by subterfuge (4:161); slandering the true religion and being cursed by Allah (4:46); killing the prophets (2:61); being merciless and heartless (2:74); never keeping their promises or fulfilling their words (2:100); being unrestrained in committing sins (5:79); being cowardly (59:13-14); being miserly (4:53); being transformed into apes and pigs for breaking the Sabbath (2:63-65; 5:59-60; 7:166); and more.
And so this “Minnesota university student leader” tweeted a threat: “yahood [Jews] will get what coming for them [sic].” But when it was noticed, he denounced the “Islamophobic smear campaign” against him. You see, it’s always the fault of the dirty kuffar. Islamic supremacists never, ever take responsibility for their own actions. And of course the administrators at the University of St. Thomas, while tut-tutting his Jew-hatred, are doing nothing. It isn’t as if he endorsed Donald Trump or something serious like that.
“Student Leader Who Tweeted ‘Jews Will Get What Coming to Them’ Rails Against Exposure as ‘Islamophobic Smear Campaign,’” by Rachel Frommer, Algemeiner, March 20, 2017:
A Minnesota university student leader who tweeted “yahood [Jews] will get what coming for them [sic]” railed on Facebook against exposure of his social media posts as an “Islamophobic smear campaign.”
Mayzer Muhammad — president of the undergraduate student union (USG) at the University of St. Thomas — wrote last Wednesday: “I am coming under attack for being a Muslim leader of the student government at a private Catholic institution,” after his online activity, revealed by campus watchdog Canary Mission, was reported by The Algemeiner two days earlier.
Muhammad called his posts — which included calling Zionists “the scum of the earth” — “poorly chosen…words” written “during a period of time where I was very emotional about Israel’s politics and the loss of life in Gaza.”
“I want to reassure everyone that I am committed to serving and assisting each and every single student that I represent. I also want to assure you all that I stand firmly against anti-Semitism and all forms of bigotry, divisiveness, and oppression that don’t create an inclusive campus for everyone,” he wrote.
He added, “The tweets that resurfaced were from 3+ years ago and do not reflect what I meant at the time.”
As The Algemeiner reported, Muhammad’s anti-Israel posts are as recent as March 2016, a month before he won his uncontested bid for USG leadership….
The Confessions says
Islamophobia is really a code word developed by Muslims which means: “damn, these infidels actually know what Islam is talking about since they’ve read the Koran, Hadith and are acquainted with the Sunna of Mohammed.”
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Michael says
So absolutely right on, The Confessions.
The Confessions says
Thanks Michael.
mortimer says
I partly agree with TC: I think Muslims DON’T CARE much if we read the sources or not. They have dozens of ways to prevaricate and tergiversate and confuse and retreat. I am convinced after many arguments with Muslims, that they actually LOVE the twisting skein of falsehoods and straight-out lies that they weave, even more than they love Islam itself. It is the GAME of cheating, of playing both sides against the middle and of MOVING THE GOAL POSTS that many Muslims love so dearly. Very few Westerners have actually figured Islam out and those who have get the worst treatment.
The ‘Islamophobia’ smear is a smoke-screen, a distraction, a straw man, a WOLF IN SHEEP’S CLOTHING, a Trojan horse for Sharia blasphemy laws, a BAIT-AND-SWITH move, a TABLE-TURNING TRICK, reverse discrimination, a shaming technique (when no wrong is being done)… the full list of fallacies involved in ‘Islamophobia’ goes on and on. That is why it is difficult to debate ‘Islamophobia’ in a word. It is a multiply complex fallacy.
The purpose of the ‘Islamophobia’ slur is to accuse Westerners of irrational ‘HATRED’. That disguises the fact that Islam contains an essential doctrine of HATRED TOWARDS KAFIRS called ‘Al Walaa wal Baraa’.
We should all be working on the perfect repost to the Islamophobia slur, because when we do, I believe Islam will have no defense left. This is the only defense Islam is successfully using at the moment.
The Confessions says
Thanks mortimer. Always enjoy reading and learning from your posts.
Michael says
mortimer, just had to compliment you on ‘tergiversate.’ I haven’t heard or seen that used in … I’m not sure ever!! and I echo The Confessions words — I, too, enjoy your posts, and learn great deal from you. Thank you!
Custos Custodum says
You beat me to it!
Also +5 for “the twisting skein of falsehoods and straight-out lies.”
davej says
Exactly. Muslims emulate their example Mohammed who was a criminal and invented Islam to legalize and justify the worst of human behavior.
So now the game is to soft peddle the Mafia-like dogma to the innocent victims while privately exulting in their progress toward complete domination. Ummah = Mafiosi, Cosa Nostra, Crips, Bloods, MS 13 or any other criminal gang. Same blind allegiance, same violent tactics.
Jeanette says
The Mafia, at least, concentrated its violence on actual enemies and on those who had perpetrated (in its eyes) crimes against the Mafia.
I never heard a case of them drowning a cage of innocent people, or crucifying small children.
But the Muslims apparently spend the time that they aren’t actually engaged in their favorite pursuits (rape, maiming, murdering, kidnapping, enslaving) thinking up new and even more heinous methods of causing terror, pain and death.
Can any decent human being imagine spending eternity with an entity who cheers that kind of thing?
Imnokuffar says
I mix with Muslim’s and one is a good friend but he is totally secular and NEVER mixes with the religious types and never attends mosque.
He eats pork, drinks and smokes and was a member of the French army for 25 years.
He has done me many favors and I have reciprocated in kind.
Of the rest, I shake their hands (as is the French custom) and play pool with them.
Some are friendly and a minority give me the cold shoulder.
Do I trust the Muslims or have confidence in them?
The answer is a resounding NO !!!..!!!!.
With just ONE exception.
Over the last couple of years I have noticed a distinct change in the attitude of the native French, it is a subtle change but does not bode well for the musulmans.
They are becoming more and more apprehensive of what the future holds for them – particularly after the events in Nice.
I heard some of them laughing and joking about this tragedy even though some Muslims were killed or injured.
The FN is doing well and I am the sole English member in the region.
Custos Custodum says
Perhaps they should introduce compulsory snail eating and wine drinking at government expense.
At least French taxpayers would get some enjoyment back from their government, and it would do wonders for culture et civilisation Francaise.
As a visiting tourist, one would humbly submit to the screening meal, I mean test, with tasteful French table linen in the arrival hall at CDG airport.
Jeanette says
1, Taqiyya should be enough reason for non-Muslims to distrust Musims.
2. Why has it taken so long for the French to catch on? Brigitte Bardot has been objecting to their behavior in France for years; she has been jailed and has had to pay very large fines five times for doing so.
Why has Ms. Bardot had to be the entire French Resistance?
3. What does the “N” in “FN” stand for?
AleX says
Good observation, Sir.
The lack of Golden Rule makes them deceitful and duplicitous.
Also, they seem to miss the proper perception of time line, I.e. BC – AD periods and thus be confused about situating an event in a certain century.
Custos Custodum says
No way. As Mortimer and other posters have explained, the term “Islamophobia” is a highly sophisticated propaganda tool that weaponizes Western traditions of tolerance against the West itself. In other words, it induces a harmful auto-immune reaction that lets the parasite grow and spread.
The creators of this term were obviously sophisticated Cult-Marxists from Columbia or another Gramsciite-Satanic monastery. (NOT Georgetown – for all of princeling Alwaleed’s money, GT still only manages to attract third-rate frauds as faculty, and a good dose of aspiring frauds as students.)
Traditional Islam, like the rabies virus, has developed a certain evolutionary sophistication, but is quite incapable of innovative development like the term “Islamophobia.”
The Confessions says
Hi Custos Custodum, thanks for your comment. From what I know about the term “Islamophobia”, it was invented by the Muslim Brotherhood. Indeed, cultural Marxists have milked it in order to, as you put it, weaponize the Western tradition of tolerance against the West itself. Yet many Muslims and Islamic grievance-monger organisations are adept at doing this too; hence, it isn’t beyond them to come up with a term like “Islamophobia”.
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frederick King says
You should work for Webster Dictionary. I agree with you 100 % on this one.
John Hawk says
These guys always reach for the victim card. It’s reflexive. If they round up Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi in one piece, he will probably blame “Islamophobia” for the failure of his caliphate.
mortimer says
Yes, Muslims reach for the victim card, because the LEFTARDS gladly hand it to them, plus the GET OUT OF JAIL FREE CARD.
Custos Custodum says
Precisely – so far, Islam remains the junior partner supplying brawn to the Leftards’ brains in the Leftard-Muslim alliance to subvert the still-innocent West.
Jeanette says
Reaching for the victim card is reflexive for them because we have been idiotic enough to allow it to be effective for them.
Maybe we can turn that ship around now.
john spielman says
what is a muslim doing in a Catholic university- learning the life of a monk or priest? Why not go to a secular university like the U of Minnesota
BLC says
Muslims seem to have to infiltrate everything everywhere.
Jeanette says
Yes, indeed. The Muslim herd breeding program has been very successful, not least because so much of it is supported by taxpayers in western countries.
Michael says
Their goal is to co-opt all religions. They have their associations that preach / pretend wanting to cooperate and understand. Of course that’s a complete fabrication. They pretend, in front of non-Muslims, to want to get along, etc. etc. They are ‘nice people,’ with no intention to hurt anyone. What they say behind the backs of those very people, is very different.
An interesting book that really is unsettling, to say the least, is ‘A God Who Hates,’ by Wafa Sultan. She escaped from it all … and gives a lot of insight into it all.
‘Stealth Invasion,’ by Hohmann, is quite unsettling, too, to say the least. He gets into the details of their organizations, now very long-standing, that are bringing about, or hope to bring about, Sharia law in this country.
And by the way, I appreciate others’ notes on books they have read and recommended. Please share sources you have.
They go into the territory of the ‘enemy’ — all non-believers — and feign friendliness and being misunderstood and no, the Koran doesn’t REALLY say what people say, and even if it does, they’re really peace loving people. Obama said it. Bush said it. Must be so … and who would want to be the villain to criticize these victimized souls? And they’re so nice and normal to the faces of non-Muslims …
And then … ah yes, a prayer room on campus … yes, a mosque, of course …. yes, outlaw criticism of these poor folks who HAD to come to America, thanks to the United Nations, and services like the Catholic church who get big $ for ‘resettling’ these folks, at the cost of the locals.
Then … Sharia law!
One step at a time. The institutions they need to co-opt and destroy? Education … church … government. They are very sophisticated, and have been at this for a long, long time.
Joe says
And he is President of the Student Union. I find it funny that these ignorant students would vote for someone who identifies with a group that wants to subjugate them.
Custos Custodum says
Voted in by virtue-signaling “tolerant” sheeple who – at a Catholic institution – probably lack even the most fundamental understanding of actual Christian teachings.
Instead, 98% of “Christian” students will have been brought up on a diet of “let’s all share and get along” pap, conditioned to avoid independent thought and enquiry like the “cooties.”
Jeanette says
Thank you for my mid-day chuckle! I haven’t seen or heard the term “cooties” in years!
mortimer says
If someone asks me, “Are you Islamophobic”, I now reply…
… “I am ISLAMO-POLITICAL-SUPREMACISM CRITICAL… I disagree that Islamic supremacists should rule the world.”
Terry Gain says
I say, my fear of Islan is rational and is based on the vile doctrine of supremacism and violence and Islam’s history of conquest. And my fear is fortified by the complete lack of intellectual honesty on the part of Muslims to take responsibility for evil done in the name of Islam and their use of inappropriate pejoratives such as Islamophobia to absolve themselves of their iniquity.
Lor says
TERRY, I AGREE.
I have also as a normal, logically thinking person wondered WHY there has not been public OUTCRY and general addresses by Muslim leaders to people in, for example, Europe and US , in the wake of so many Islamic terrorist attacks in the last two and one half years, to name only a couple (out of thousands of years).
And my fear is fortified by the complete lack of intellectual honesty on the part of Muslims to take responsibility for evil done in the name of Islam and their use of inappropriate pejoratives such as Islamophobia to absolve themselves of their iniquity.
Jeanette says
I think we have to drop any hope of any general intellectual honesty on the part of Muslims. The few who do see the light are statistically irrelevant.
There is not much outcry among non-Muslims because they have been educated by pro-communist schools, and the communists have realized that they have more in common with Muslims than with non-communists.
mortimer says
The Koran dehumanizes Jews much more than Hitler did in Mein Kampf. Hitler never even clownishly suggested that Jews had turned into animals.
The Koran is obviously an INSANE document written by a foolish lunatic who could not distinguish between his vicious HALLUCINATIONS and reality.
Muslims who read the Koran and believe it enter into a world of fantasy, delusion and psychopathy.
Freincle says
um yes he did. Jews were rodents and infestations in Nazi Germany. That is how they dehumanized them and justified genocide. You think Hitler is any better than Mohammed then you are stupid.
Pong says
It is difficult choice: Hitler or Mohammed. Hitler almost did what moslems are dreaming about and their views are very similar. Interesting, that some 7% of meln kampf is anti-semitic and 9% of koran is.
Fascism and islam are the 2 most destructive ideologies in human history and both share hate for the Jewish people.
It is quite clear that anti-semitism in any form, even when it’s hiding under an umbrella of anti-zionism or bds, leads to destruction and deaths and must be opposed by all decent people.
Today, the leading role of that destruction belongs to UN. This organization should be dismantled and a new international body should replace it.
St Ferdinand says
Quite Right. Fascism-Communism-Islam. All share the same traits. The main difference is that the huge brains in the multicultural paradise protect Muhammadism as a ‘religion’ for non-whites [ergo I am a racist for defending myself against it]. Another main difference between the 3 is that Fascism and Communism were socialist-atheist constructs built on 2 different approaches to evolution. Mein Koran is built on a plagiarized, corruption of the Bible, Arab pagan myths, the Baal cult [Al lah is Baal]; but like Fascism, extols the community or Umma and divides the world into us versus them.
Daniel Sebold says
All those Russian Orthodox Churches with pictures of Stalin on the walls. The Catholic Church used to send happy birthday greetings to Hitler. He should fit right in at Saint Thomas.
Jeanette says
Mohammed was certainly more EFFECTIVE than Hitler.
Hitler allegedly only killed 6 million (not all of them Jews, by the way).
Mohammed’s Perpetual Army of Charles Mansons has killed 270 million people (American Thinker), and there a new claim has recently been made that he is responsible for the murders of another 600 million Indians. The American Thinker article also stated that Muslims have enslaved about 185 million people (this figure does not include their wives, who are nothing but slaves).
This makes Mohammed responsible for more murders than all of the famous mass murderers (Hitler, Stalin, Mao Tse Tung, Ghenghis Khan, Idi Amin, etc.) combined.
BLC says
Only Muslims could threaten other people in one breath and in the next, claim victimhood.
Michael says
And we — whoever the hell is in charge at these places, the media, anyone who sits by and kisses their asses — allow it. However ‘the right to not be offended’ became a seeming law in this country, and others, I have no idea. But it makes for the perfect ground for them to come in, do their ‘thing’ to subvert everything that is freedom and America (or whatever the host country is), and claim to be victims. We are not allowed to criticize … so let’s keep criticizing, and calling it all for what we see and know it to be.
BLC says
Boycott everything Islamic.
Custos Custodum says
No – the first order of business should be to boycott a much more insidious threat – Leftards posing as Christians, all the way up to Frank the bouncer pope.
Protestant denominations are similarly infected with the syphilis of totalitarian Leftardism.
Jeanette says
Mexican illegal aliens have done the same thing.
somehistory says
Most people, disagreeing with the foundation of a group or organization, would go elsewhere to associate, work, learn, etc.
Not moslims…they deliberately go to religious institutions to get a college degree, and there they make trouble.
His words didn’t mean what he said at the time, and he’s ready to help everyone no matter. He weaseled his way into the school and then into the “government’ of the school and uses his position to lie, lie lie.
His heart is as nasty as his ugly countenance. He said some horrible things, go caught, and like every criminal, claims innocence and ‘he didn’t mean it.’ And whines that the evidence of his “crime” is being used to convict him. He doesn’t want to lose his power in the student government.
Perhaps he could lie on the sidewalk and others could walk on his name.
One day, islam will exist no longer.
Ted says
Last month a video was made in a Mosque in Toronto and these Muslims were calling for Allah to kill the Jews and Infidels. I seen the video and cannot understand how it ever became public, but thankfully it did. One participant was identified as a Professor at a Toronto University and they had the decency to have him fired. I also don’t understand how the Peel School Board can expect the parents of public school children,in there jurisdiction, to not object to an Imam coming into there schools and preaching the Koran in Arabic. ABSOLUTLY NO RELIGION IN PUBLIC SCHOOLS, no SHARIA in Canada. We are not racists, they are the racists. Kevin Jackal Johnston for mayor.
Jeanette says
It’s not possible to be a racist against Muslims, since they do not make up a race.
Caucasoid, Negroid, Mongoloid, but no “Muslimoid”!
And while we’re on the subject of race, no “Mexicanoid,” either!
AleX says
The muslimoid must have lost his rectal fortitude when confronted on his statements. As cowardly as his role-model.
somehistory says
They use the word “racist” because they know that decent people…which they are not…don’t want to be thought of as a racist. A decent person will be afraid something they have done…even doing a self-exam of their thoughts, motives, attitudes, etc. to make sure they are not racist and have not been insensitive to other’s feelings…has offended someone else.
So, after not finding anything they can see as being racist, will bend over backward to not give any semblance of racism. And…they weren’t being racist in the first place…the real racists see they have made a dent, and just keep on hammering until the decent person is afraid to say or do anything for fear of offending.
Until…the decent person realizes that the word is being used against them for nefarious purposes.This is esp true regarding islam….and as has been pointed out numerous times…islam is not a race. It is only a part of the “human race” in that those who are truly human are its victims.
I have been called racist many times and I have never been and I know I have never been, so it doesn’t work on me. Don’t let it work on you either. It is being used as a weapon.
Arthur says
>> “…before he won his uncontested bid for USG leadership…”
Looks like the students at the university were pretty apathetic. Kind of reminds me of the public at large.
Shmooviyet says
Or figured he had the leadership in the bag.
Step aside, don’t run against him or fellow students will brand you intolerant and islamophobic for daring to take away his ‘right’ to lead the student union.
And neve4 mind those anti-Semitic remarks, his ‘explanation’ should satisfy all.
Carolyne says
The same as not voting for Obama. Many liberals voted for him to show how tolerant and unbigoted they were, not because he was qualified to be President. I didn’t vote for him because he was a Muslim, quite likely not born in the US, and a mole set to destroy the country as Muslims always try in any western country they invade. He is now running a competition government from a rented house in Washington.
epistemology says
Nothing new, muzzies will never change.
My facebook site is in English but you can see I’m located in Germany. Yesterday I got a nice message from an Erdogaga fan
I’m a whore and a brainless Zionist slut and he knows what he’s gonna do to me when he he gets hold of me.
Nice times ahead, but NFSE as the EDL puts it. Cheers and lechaim!
infidel says
President Julie Sullivan is responsible for allowing this.
Just two years ago, she installed muslim foot baths for these creeps.
She knew about Mayzer. Her office was notified last year; she did Nothing, in the name of
Diversity.
She should be fired.
https://creepingsharia.wordpress.com/2013/11/30/minnesota-catholic-university-installs-mini-mosques-and-islamic-foot-baths-for-muslims/
Westman says
***calling Zionists “the scum of the earth” — “poorly chosen…words” written “during a period of time where I was very emotional about Israel’s politics and the loss of life in Gaza.” and “yahood [Jews] will get what coming for them”***
“..The tweets that resurfaced were from 3+ years ago and do not reflect what I meant at the time.”
That boils down to: “I was livid and wrote nasty things about Zionist Jews – but it wasn’t what I meant at the time”
Is there a special illogic switch that comes free with each Quran?
Gotta take a break, this “leader’s” logic makes my brain hurt.
somehistory says
Translated it means: the words he wanted to use were even worse, the thoughts even more demonically evil.
jayell says
“The tweets…from 3+ years ago do not represent what I meant at the time”. So……
1. Some other evil kuffar person hacked his Twitter account and said all.those awful things, but, as an oppressed muslim victim, he was so paralyzed by fear that he did nothing about it?
2. He did not understand the English language properly at the time, so he was unable to express himself accurately and coherently?
3. As a victim of the effects of the decadent kuffar society in which he was forced to exist, he suffered a split personality and the tweets came from the kuffar-induced evil alter-ego?
Well, he didn’t come up with a catalogue of farcical bullsh*t to justify/explain that utterly absurd ‘excuse’ of his, so I’ve done it for him. By the way, why exactly IS a muslim holding such an important position in a CATHOLIC college? Or even, why is a muslim in a CATHOLIC college at all?
Michael says
oh, didn’t you know, Catholics are tolerant? all of us are tolerant! We forgive him!
People don’t realize that Muslims lie in public, tell the truth in private. Say whatever need be said to keep people calm (We don’t rape little girls, behead people, stone women, mutilate women; THOSE are extremists; oh sure, it’s my extended family who does it, but not ME, you see).
The Koran is pretty awesome when you think of it. ANYTHING is justified if it’s the name of Allah. wonderful evil Allah. You can do anything to anyone who is a non-believer. anything at all. lie, murder, cheat, behead, beat, rape, mutilate. you can do that to your own, too, but you might get in trouble, depending on who you are and who you did it to.
The phrase ‘license to kill’ describes Islam and the Koran. The Killer Koran.
Jeanette says
Allah pushes the same things that Ba’al and/or Moloch pushed in Canaan.
I suspect that God’s command that the Israelites kill all Canaanites wasn’t carried out thoroughly enough.
I haven’t yet found a connection between Canaan and Hagar (where the Arabs and Allah came from), but I’m still researching.
Carolyne says
A “God” commanding the murder of an entire group of people is just like Allah. The basic problem in the world today is religious fanaticism, of every kind. Islam is the worst, but worshiping a magical being who commands you to kill is somewhat questionable.
AleX says
Genesis 21: Hagar and Ishmael being expelled
Caro K. says
Carolyne, no, the basic problem in the world today, and throughout time, has been evil. In the Bible, God constantly battled evil, sometimes with a broad brush, and other times specifically, such as when Abraham pleaded for sparing Sodom if even only a few righteous people could be found, alas, they weren’t found, and during the Flood, Noah’s family was spared. But if evil is not destroyed it will destroy all of us, for evil is contagious. The perfect metaphor for evil is in fact a virulent virus.
It is vital to remember that God’s command to destroy the Canaanites was time and place specific, not an everlasting commandment like the hate verses in the Koran. God also gave us specific legal codes to fight evil–the Ten Commandments, the Pentateuch’s legal system, and Paul’s letters to the Christian churches in Asia Minor.
Crusades Were Right! says
“By the way, why exactly IS a muslim holding such an important position in a CATHOLIC college? Or even, why is a muslim in a CATHOLIC college at all?”
Why, Islamising it, of course!
Daniel Sebold says
Wow! He hates Jews. Where have I seen that before?
Daniel Sebold says
Reminds me of the Christians I grew up with. The Catholic Church used to send birthday greetings to the fuhrer. There are still Russian Orthodox churches with pictures of Stalin painted on the walls. A pox on all your houses, Muslim extremists, Christian rednecks. Glad I am not in the States anymore. I wouldn’t live long with the lot of all you on Jihad Watch
Jeanette says
Sebold – “Glad I am not in the States anymore. I wouldn’t live long with the lot of all you on Jihad Watch”
Does that mean you approve of what we disapprove – beheading, burning alive, crucifying, drowning, raping, kidnapping, enslaving, mutilating?
Because if so, we’re glad you’re not here, too. We have enough people who approve those kinds of things here already; they are called Muslims.
Carolyne says
So far as I know, Mr Sebold.we have no murderers here at Jihad Watch. If you know differently, kindly tell us so that we can take appropriate steps to notify the authorities. We’re glad you’re not here, too. Killing people with whom you disagree is the Muslim way.
Daniel Sebold says
Well, you can start with me. I am a Gulf War veteran who was involved in the targeting of civilian infrastructure in Basra, Iraq–water filtration plants– which is a terrorist act that resulted in the deaths of a half million Iraqi children between the end of the ’91 Gulf War and the beginning of the 2,003 War. When asked if it was worth killing all those children, Secretary Of State, Madelyne Albright said that, yes, it was worth it. But it is not terrorism when we kill civilians
Michael says
The truth is that America hardly has clean hands. And that would be an understatement. When Trump was interviewed by Bill O’Reilly a few weeks ago, he took heat when O’Reilly pointed out that Putin was a murderer, and Trump basically said, well, we’ve committed our own sins. People didn’t take too kindly to the acknowledgement of what we all know: the U.S. has been responsible for a lot of deaths in a lot of countries.
I love this country. I don’t make claims that we are free of any guilt. And Islam is more brutal and violent, and has historically caused more deaths, than any country or ideology. It is an ideology devoid of intellect, freedom, life, love.
Was the Iraq war justified? No. I’ve often thought when you look at the destruction of these countries, and the predictable flood of refugees — of course not to their Middle East neighbors — into Europe, the US, Canada — that it all plays into some grander, long-range (not so long range any more) plan to destabilize, if not destroy, democracies, and bring about the long-predicted and desired ‘one world government.’ Daddy Bush spoke of it, and the Bush family is certainly not ‘pro-American.’
It’s sometimes put out there that America has ignited terrorism by its own incursions, or invasions, or attempts to help … that we have caused this backlash. That, I don’t believe. Not after studying Islam for awhile. They need no reason. That we exist is reason. They don’t need any justification, any cause. Simply that we exist. And it has, apparently, always been that way with Islam. The Koran says we must be killed. And that is their creed.
This is not a justification of what we did in Iraq. The reasons were all fabricated. And we have a very checkered history of who we have supported, and then not. The Middle East is complex beyond my understanding of the history and region.
And I don’t think what we did in Iraq, made a huge difference in any particular ‘radicalization’ of Muslims. Their beliefs and goals were set in stone, or the Koran, long ago, and have never changed.
I appreciate what you wrote, Daniel. And I am certainly open to other views on any and all of this.
Caro K. says
Daniel, I don’t know you or if you are who you say you are, but the only evidence I can find after a quick check online for your claim about targeting Basra’s water supply, causing the deaths of 1/2 million children (why only children died, surely bad water would cause adult deaths too?) is from murky sources that often do not even have a name. Yet I do not trust the Bush family, at all, like Michael.
It is intellectual slippery ground to compare motives of people, governments, in a binary apples-to-apples fashion, for seldom are two different countries motives the same.
Daniel Sebold says
For years I had always looked back on those briefings on the La Salle command ship in Bahrain when we were told that were going to be targeting water filtration plants in Basra. One of the CT’s nutted out and started screaming that we were terrorists and had to be removed from the ship. I had always wondered if we had actually done this because for years I didn’t want to know the truth on this. I went to the internet a year or so ago and found the information on Human Rights Watch specifically about Basra.
As far Muslims killing more people around the globe than America has historically–I am having a hard time picturing this. The Indochina war took three or four million people, most of them civilians. I know of no such war in Islamic history where four million people lost their lives due to Muslims going around slaughtering people. Perhaps the most brutal war would be Sadam’s war with Iran in the eighties in which he used chemical weapons supplied by the Netherlands and Singapore against the Iranians in the Battle of Koran Shar, but I have never heard any kinds of statistics in the millions for that war or any other war. ISIS I believe has killed over a hundred thousand people, not in the millions.
Madelyne Albright’s famous quote that it was worth killing a half million Iraqi children can be found on You Tube in a Sixty Minutes Interview:
Madeleine Albright – 60 Minutes
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John Manslagt
John Manslagt
wyewye says
What is the email address to St-Paul U in Minnesota so that we can write to them our disappointment in this student representative.
pandainc says
“I am coming under attack for being a Muslim leader of the student government at a private Catholic institution,”
No, whatever your real name is. You are coming under attack because you are a butthead.
Dustin Koellhoffer says
Muhammad’s Way – attack others and when they expose the attacks blame them as paranoid haters of Islam.
https://liberalsbackwardsthink.com/2015/01/08/mohammad-the-first-terrorist-and-his-religion-of-self-imposed-brainwashing/
Charles P says
ALL these AMERICANS ARE PRETENDING to be MUSLIMS!!!!!!
THE REAL MUSLIMS, of the middle east, WILL NEVER CONSIDER A ONE OF THEM TO BE A MUSLIM!!!!!!!!!
They consider the American Black man to be CHUMPS, WHO THEY CAN USE IN THEIR JIHAD, and then ELIMINATE LATER!!!!! (This is what REAL Muslims have OPENLY SAID FOR MANY DECADES!)
Americans ARE STUPID! And PROUD OF IT (being STUPID)!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jeanette says
Many Americans are ignorant, so ignorant that they don’t know that they are ignorant.
frederick King says
We need to get back to the 70’s free – love stuff in colleges. It was so much more fun watching the high as hell girls running around naked, smoking weed.
This guy is inciting jihad. Mass murder. Wants us infidels to be his slave.
He should be thrown out of this school.
Jeanette says
I suspect that the “free-love, everything is beautiful” philosophy of the 60s is part of the reason that Americans are not doing what must be done now.
And I was in the thick of that scene, having graduated from high school in ’69.
davej says
This is the result when a devious criminal creates a self-justifying ideology with a will to conquer the world for it’s “booty”, then decorates it with the frosting of being a “religion” and makes it reform-proof by imposing the death penalty for any critique.
Clever – in a diabolical, demonic sense.
Daniel Sebold says
With all those Christians in the ’91 Gulf War and they way they were celebrating Tomahawk launches then going down below deck and listening to the war prayer from the ship’s chaplain on “defending the birthplace of our religion” in Israel–the only difference I can see is that they lost the war. I don’t see them off the coast of the USA flying sorties into Texas or Louisiana. That they get revenge once in awhile is our own stupidity, No one is going remove the log from our own eye
Angemon says
The viper cries as it bites you.
Michael says
Well said, Angemon. All the while, the only solution is to cut its head off — before it cuts ours.