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Netherlands bars Turkish ministers, Turks riot, Erdogan vows retaliation in “harshest ways” against “Nazis”

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Erdogan is calling Dutch Prime Minister Mark Rutte, a pro-migration multiculturalist Leftist, a “Nazi” because he wouldn’t allow Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu and Family Minister Fatma Betul Sayan Kaya to enter the country to campaign for Erdogan. So the Netherlands must behave like a colony of Turkey, or Erdogan will retaliate harshly.

“Netherlands bars Turkish ministers as rally dispute escalates,” by Tuvan Gumrukcu and Thomas Escritt, Reuters, March 12, 2017:

Turkey told the Netherlands on Sunday that it would retaliate in the “harshest ways” after Turkish ministers were barred from speaking in Rotterdam in a row over Ankara’s political campaigning among Turkish emigres.

President Tayyip Erdogan had branded its fellow NATO member a “Nazi remnant” and the dispute escalated into a diplomatic incident on Saturday evening, when Turkey’s family minister was prevented by police from entering the Turkish consulate in Rotterdam.

Hundreds of protesters waving Turkish flags gathered outside, demanding to see the minister.

Dutch police used dogs and water cannon early on Sunday to disperse the crowd, which threw bottles and stones. Several demonstrators were beaten by police with batons, a Reuters witness said. They carried out charges on horseback, while officers advanced on foot with shields and armored vans.

Less than a day after Dutch authorities prevented Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu from flying to Rotterdam, Turkey’s family minister, Fatma Betul Sayan Kaya, said on Twitter she was being escorted back to Germany.

“The world must take a stance in the name of democracy against this fascist act! This behavior against a female minister can never be accepted,” she said. The Rotterdam mayor confirmed she was being escorted by police to the German border….

The Dutch government, which stands to lose heavily to the anti-Islam party of Geert Wilders in elections next week, said it considered the visits undesirable and “the Netherlands could not cooperate in the public political campaigning of Turkish ministers in the Netherlands.”

The government said it saw the potential to import divisions into its own Turkish minority, which has both pro- and anti-Erdogan camps. Dutch politicians across the spectrum said they supported Prime Minister Mark Rutte’s decision to ban the visits.

In a statement issued early on Sunday, Prime Minister Binali Yildirim said Turkey had told Dutch authorities it would retaliate in the “harshest ways” and “respond in kind to this unacceptable behavior”.

Turkey’s foreign ministry said it did not want the Dutch ambassador to Ankara to return from leave “for some time”. Turkish authorities sealed off the Dutch embassy in Ankara and consulate in Istanbul in apparent retaliation and hundreds gathered there for protests at the Dutch action.

Erdogan is looking to the large number of emigre Turks living in Europe, especially in Germany and the Netherlands, to help clinch victory next month in a referendum that would give the presidency sweeping new powers.

German Chancellor Angela Merkel has said she will do everything possible to prevent Turkish political tensions spilling onto German soil. Four rallies in Austria and one in Switzerland have been canceled due to the growing dispute.

Erdogan has cited domestic threats from Kurdish and Islamist militants and a July coup bid as cause to vote “yes” to his new powers. But he has also drawn on the emotionally charged row with Europe to portray Turkey as betrayed by allies while facing wars on its southern borders.

The Dutch government had banned Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu from attending a rally on Saturday in Rotterdam but he said he would fly there anyway, saying Europe must be rid of its “boss-like attitude”.

Cavusoglu, who was barred from a similar meeting in Hamburg last week but spoke instead from the Turkish consulate, accused the Dutch of treating the many Turkish citizens in the country like hostages, cutting them off from Ankara.

“If my going will increase tensions, let it be … I am a foreign minister and I can go wherever I want,” he added hours before his planned flight to Rotterdam was banned.

SANCTIONS THREAT

Cavusoglu threatened harsh economic and political sanctions if the Dutch refused him entry, and those threats proved decisive for the Netherlands government.

It cited public order and security concerns in withdrawing landing rights for Cavusoglu’s flight and said the threat of sanctions made the search for a reasonable solution impossible.

“This decision is a scandal and unacceptable in every way. It does not abide by diplomatic practices,” Cavusoglu told reporters in Istanbul on Saturday evening.

Dutch anti-Muslim politician Wilders, polling second ahead of Wednesday’s elections, said in a tweet on Saturday: “To all Turks in the Netherlands who agree with Erdogan: Go to Turkey and NEVER come back!!”

Rutte, the Dutch prime minister, said: “This morning on TV (the Turkish minister) made clear he was threatening the Netherlands with sanctions and we can never negotiate with the Turks under such threats. So we decided … in a conference call it was better for him not to come.”

‘NAZI REMNANTS, FASCISTS’

Addressing a rally of supporters, Erdogan retaliated against the decision to prevent the Turkish foreign minister from visiting Rotterdam.

“Listen Netherlands, you’ll jump once, you’ll jump twice, but my people will thwart your game,” he said. “You can cancel our foreign minister’s flight as much as you want, but let’s see how your flights will come to Turkey now.”

“They don’t know diplomacy or politics. They are Nazi remnants. They are fascists,” he said….

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  1. Turks are residues Nazis – anti-Semitic, a paranoid leader, and surrounded by countries that despise them.

    • I like how Geert Wilders gets right to the point of the issue. He is likely to become the next prime minister of the Netherlands.

      • Dear ‘ole democracy, but the current Netherlands PM and admin’ will now be perceived as ‘strong’, hence this spat may well be beneficial in the upcoming national vote.

        • If the Dutch people can’t see through that, then they are going to have to learn the hard way, which might even amount to their destruction by what Pamela Geller calls “The Army of Charles Mansons.”

      • David Grisez & Jayell
        ================

        Guys, I had to tell you this, but don’t set your hopes too high. Let’s hope but keep our expectancies low, let’s be realistic. Here’s an excerpt of what I wrote in reference to the European elections 2017, it was written to somebody else.
        ————————————–.

        …………..Further, a democracy requires an upper and a lower house, a balance, a check of powers. There is now talk about dissolving the upper house, the excuse being Brexit. If that happens, then British democracy ceases to exist. The house of Commons will essentially become a politburo.

        On the mainland elections are looming. It is possible that in France Le Pen may win, but she does not offer any solution to the problem that concerns the people. Namely the rapid Islamization of France. France is by now in a state of emergency for well over a year, over a million soldiers are on the streets, soldiers! Not policemen. For nearly a month there were in 25 towns and areas civil war like riots and unrests. Le Pen actively courts the so called modest Muslim vote – a person is either a Muslim, following the Koran and the prophet, or not. There is no in between, as has been asserted again and again by Muslim political leaders and by every Muslim clergy. What is le Pen offering the French people? Taking France out of NATO and holding a plebiscite about the Euro and EU membership. Action of minor or secondary concerns. She will make a good runner-up to whomever wins the election. Further to the east, the Netherlands. Strongest candidate, Gert Wilders. What can he achieve, despite or given all his rhetoric and promises? Nothing. He is forecast to obtain 29 seats – out of 150… Even if that gives the highest single concentration of seats for a single party, namely his, he faces an opposition of 131 to 29! He couldn’t even determine the color of the toilet rolls in the Dutch parliament. All parties have stated there will not be a coalition with him. Around 2005, I think, there was a similar party to his, with nearly identical demands or promises. The achieved 25 seats, strongest showing of all parties. Though, not enough to govern. Incidentally, their party leader was murdered. Germany, the AfD witnesses an internal power struggle, and has no single leader to provide leadership. That is to say it’s currently a debating club. And the voters don’t like it. They were on second and third place, a party that’s just about four years old! And now they are sliding…

        Over to the US: What is Trump, leader of the western powers, doing to help his European friends and well wishers? Showing an act of solidarity? No. Inviting them to the white house? No. Anything at all? No. He certainly appears to be keen on strong enemies, and weak allies. Well, for that he is holding hands with Theresa May, under whose auspices the sharia courts in Britain have more than doubled. And whenever she meets Muslims, in whatever function, she is a dutiful and obedient dhimmy, wearing a hijab… Encore! So, what significant change can be expected from Trump? I don’t dare guessing, he took four ex-Goldman Sachs managers into his cabinet. One of which is ex-Soros. Ex-Soros? Hmh. Doesn’t he understand that the Soros NGO’s are ideological based institutions? Further, he ordered a plan how to deal with ISIS, even I was excited, gave standing ovation, spiritually from afar that is. So what came of it? A watered-down and modified version of what was planned under Obama… However, I have no doubt he will affect noticeable changes about Mexican immigration. Who knows, may be even significant changes. Achievements so far, March 2017, he backed down before China; something about which the Chinese media was outright jubilant. Russia/Putin? No change. Well, still early days, and he has to fight the deep state – the very one that’s fighting him. And may be, just may be, he may realize that he needs strong, friendly allies. Should he realize that, then let us hope that he will do so in time…

        Back to Europe: What do the mainstream parties on the mainland offer the voters on Islam? The possibility (!) of a prohibition of the Burka. Incredible, the house is on fire and they want to put up no-smoking signs…..
        —————————.

        Believe me, we have a long, very long road ahead. Be hopeful, but also realistic. There is very little unity among us, many bark up the wrong trees, instead of pulling lost sheep back, most of us condemn them.

        Get ready for this, the Muslims will win the first rounds. And have the shock moment, in more than one way… Don’t falter in your support for our parties, and in advertising, rooting for them. But don’t expect victory. The enemy. The Black Block, is too well, too deeply entrenched. It would require **massive purges**, and the ‘by the rule players’ are not up to that. Conversely, have a look at the black block, and their shock troops, the antifas. For them violence, intimidation, etc, is course de rigour. Quite apart from the Muslim chums.

        Keep it up, be cheerful, but don’t falter when it does not come to pass, and worse, when things go even more wrong.

        Good luck to us.

        • Sorry, typo. — Should have been:

          “….Quite apart from **their** Muslim chums.”

        • Wise words, DFD.

          – You are right to warn against people getting their hopes up too much, as they risk getting tremendously disappointed.

          – Like you I think that things will get still a lot worse before they get better.
          – And the more I watch events playing out, the more I have this sense of fatalism: it’s like some things just HAVE to happen.

          – They were set in motion already decades ago, and although lots of times there were plenty of opportunities to change the course of events, and get off this road to desaster, these chances were never taken and it seems they won’t be even now, while with every passing year it gets harder and harder to do so.

          – In fact, it is already probably too late in many respects, at least for Europe.

          Desaster will come. It is like it simply HAS to happen.
          It was the same in the prelude to WW II. Many things could have been done to prevent it. But they were not done. We know what the result was.

          I do not think Europe will be defeated. Not at all. But I DO think there will be a very high price to pay.

        • To Ned

          I agree with you in so far that Europe has to solve ist Problems itself.

          However, Europe is Trump´s poblem, because, if Europe falls, the US will be alone and,sooner or later, fall as well.
          Islamisation is a world wide poblem and can only be prevented if the West stands together.

        • News;

          The problematic MP of Turkey “Fatma Betul Sayan Kaya” will visit Turkish Consulate of New York to talk about the Erdogan’s Referendum… This is propaganda for Erdogan !!!

          She is declared as “PERSONA NON GRATA” in EU. I hope the US will be as brave as DUTCH people and not allow her entry to the US.

          https://twitter.com/TRConsulNY/status/841301019841708034

          https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C6uHiAFWkAAKuQx.jpg

          Date: 14th of March at 17.00 @ Turkish Consulate NY

        • @ EmHotep

          Aware of that. Europe:

          Rotterdam: Over 2,000 Turks turned Rotterdam into something like a war zone/ Heavy fighting between police and the scum. Vienna is worried, there are over 6,000… See: tinyurl.com/jye8ypb (Austrian News, Wochenblick. It’s in German)

          Germany: They are expecting trouble/ A “Rocker club”, ‘Die Osmanen’ have announced already fighting to come. ~6,000, for years under police observation, heavy linkage with Turkey. Extremely criminal. Frequent arrests. See Compact Magazine (German) tinyurl.com/j4e5bus Xontains a lengthy video.

          It is estimated that Erdogan has more agents in Germany, the Netherlands and Denmark than the east German Stasi had during the height of the cold war. A member of the KRK, a sub division of the KSK (Kommando Spezialkräfte, Deutschland) has, under condition of anonymity, forecast that in 2017/2018 massive terror attacks will occur. Coordinated, primary targets, shopping centres/arcades, schools, parks and other public places. Aim: To install terror, fear, and thus submission.

          I wrote in the “Civil Wars” about the German army and their extensive training program, they even build a small town complete with subway/tube system, to practice street and house to house fighting, cost over €100 million. By now enhanced street fighting training is not only with the KSK, but also with 4 paratrooper battalions…

        • PS: The fighting in Rotterdam was over the weekend, it teetered out early Monday.

        • Hi DFD, I’ve read it, it is more or less same as what I heard. Turkish Government still escalates the issue by saying racist, fascist, Nazi Europeans and trying to provoke immigrants. Erdogan is able to do everything, he may try to use some kind of chemical to take revenge (I heard this from twitter AKP accounts).

          Finally he is sending the worse woman Jihadi MP Fatma Betul Sayan Kaya to US, do you think the US will allow her to talk there? As I mentioned before she is Persona non Grata in EU.

          Lets see what happens but it is not going well… I think the islamists has already started the holy war 🙁

        • Hi EmHotep,

          You said: “I think the islamists has already started the holy war ?“ — Personally I think it started about 1,400 years ago; though, I don’t want to be a stickler…

          About that “Nazi & fascist” cr.p, have a look here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law , it has or leads also to something called the “reductio ad Hitlerum”. It appears that Godwin’s law not only applies to anti-jihad groups, but is also used generally when people run out of reasonable arguments or valid matters to point out. Or if they want to deflect and misdirect/derail a conversation. The reductio is applied for the same purpose.

          On other words, it is indicative of the intellectual ability of those who use such terms and ‘arguments’. Oh I can be so polite…

          I salute you my friend 🙂

    • Well said. Unwelcome is erdowan and his islam. (misspelled his name like it sounds)

  3. Erdogan is precisely guilty of everything he accusd the Dutch of being. His viciuos response indicates the Dutch touched a nerve and elicited what is inside of him.

    • The globalists lefties have recently been exposed as Satanists.

      Allah behaves just like Satan is described as behaving.

      So the Muslims and lefties have much in common.

  7. Notice how Turkey’s family minister, Fatma Betul Sayan Kaya, tried to redirect the debate from being about Islamic supremacism to being about feminism by saying, “This behavior against a female minister can never be accepted”. Does she think we will fall for this lame, transparent deception?

  8. Is Turkey ‘FASCIST’??

    Freedom House gives Turkey the following scores:

    Political rights: 4/7
    Civil liberties: 5/7
    Press freedom: not free
    Net Freedom: not free
    Aggregate score: 38/100

    Overview:

    The Republic of Turkey regularly holds multiparty elections. Although the prime minister traditionally held most executive power, Recep Tayyip Erdoğan has dominated the government since moving from the premiership to the presidency in 2014. The Justice and Development Party (AKP) has been the ruling party since 2002. After initially passing some liberalizing reforms, the government has shown decreasing respect for political rights and civil liberties, especially in the past five years. Problem areas include minority rights, free expression, associational rights, corruption, and the rule of law.

  9. Mark Rutte is not a leftist politician but a right wing politician. The VVD of Mark Rutte does not stand to lose from the PVV from Geert Wilders; Rutte is ahead 24 in current polls and the PVV at 22, CDA (Christian Democrats) 21 and D’66 (liberal right wing) also at 21. Followed by Green Left at 16. It is all very close, but many Dutch will use their vote ‘strategically’ in order to not let the PVV win. This means they will probably vote for another than their favourite party to help the one that can beat Wilders. Get your facts right. You all want to pretend that the situation here is the same as in the US, but it is a completely different political system. Even if Wilders will win, nobody want to form a coalition with him.

  10. One Nazi (Islamo-nazi) barks that another guys are “Nazis,” using threats and intimidation in truly Hitlerian fashion (by the way, Erdogan is a great admirer of the Fuhrer confessed at multiple instances). The world is indeed upside down and in fact there might be no other solution but war to resolve differences.

    • Mmm, – considering that Erdogan is such a big Hitler fan – and considering he certainly isn’t alone in that in Turkey, given the top-seller status of “Mein Kampf” there, I guess the Germans and Dutch should feel flattered instead of insulted, no?

      It’s all very confusing with these islamists.

      • Don’t worry Pvv star – I’m on your side.

        – I was just trying to point out the absurdity of Erdogans insult: Turks love the Nazis and love what they did, yet he uses them to insult the Dutch and Germans, simply because he knows it is the worst insult he can hurl at them.

        – It doesn’t make sense in any way, but muslims are like that – they’re not bound by logic.
        – To them, it’s just all about what creates the biggest impact – what hurts the enemy most.

  11. ” I am a foreign minister and I can go wherever I want,” Evidently not.

    islam didn’t get him there…neither did his arrogance in saying it.

  12. I suspect this little pantomime has been engineered by Erdogan AND the Dutch government to boost their support in forthcoming political processes.

    After the Dutch elections, the Dutch government’s (apparent) political backbone will revert back to its normal state: multicultural jelly.

    • You got the Point. Rutte is not the hero who stands up against Turkey. He only wants to gain some conservative votes on Wednesday.
      Or – and that would be even worse – he wants to strengthen DENK, the islamic-turkish party in the Netherlands, so that he will have another party he can coalize with against Wilders.

      I really hope – but don´t believe – that this behaviour will fail with the Dutch voters and they are going to prefer the original Geerd Wilders.

  13. Typical Mohammedan behaviour as reflected in my Eight Pillars of Islam: Narcissism, Domination, Sadism, Projection, Deceit, Theft, Murder and War. Erdogan is the real Nazi (projection, deceit) in this story. The threat of retaliation reflects most, if not all, the other pillars.

  14. ‘Erdogan is calling Dutch Prime Minister Mark Rutte, a pro-migration multiculturalist Leftist, a “Nazi”…’

    Well, at least Erdogan didn’t call Rutte a Jew. That would have been really offensive.

  15. I agree withNigel GFF March 12th. The Dutch were firm yesterday against Erdogan, for the first time, but lot of people asked for that and this coming week, it is election day !!! So…….
    But anyway I am glad it went like that and you see with the 2 passports, they are never willing to become Dutch and they never wanted to and were totally Muslim last niet with their Turkish flags, but anyway it is better then nothing.

  16. Call me an Islam-realist. All of this is the future of all Western countries where Muslims are allowed in who, once in, do NOT assimilate but rather proceed to set up their parallel societies with their ready-made system of law & polity (the Shariah).

    Just step back and see what these Turkish Muslims (those living in Holland being fired up by political leaders directly from Turkey!) are doing here.They are coming to a foreign (to them) country to campaign for an issue back in the “home” country, that issue being the further strengthening of a Muslim “president”-cum-dictator who in time will assert more and more authority over Western countries.

    Are we nuts? No, not really. Rather our “leaders” (& not just Merkel) are betraying us. Intentionally. Though we are nuts to continue to tolerate these “leaders.”

  17. I want to say too many things but I am tired. Just make sure we as free people must stop erdogan and his ideology of political islam. Each and every mosque in Europe or in other western countries work for him and Muslim Brothers, their imams are agents and poisoning the immigrants. These people believe that, there is a war between the crescent and the cross and will never change their minds.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C6ocw2GUwAAUCK8.jpg

    Published by erdogan’s party akp’s Belgium branch. Simply says war between the crescent and the cross & unite under the crescent.

  18. Turkey having trouble with the Dutch, N Korea having trouble with Indonesia,
    There must be a way to blame Trump…

  19. I was very disappointed in the present Netherlands government’s treatment of Geert Wilders. Obviously, the present politicians in power are scared to death of the man…a conservative. Now, as for Turkey, I’m surprised that The Netherlands have enough Turkish nationals living there to actually campaign there for votes in Turkey. Well, if that is the case, a Turkish diplomat dispatched to The Netherlands to gather votes for whoever Mr. Diplomat works for would make The Netherlands a campaigning place for Turkish votes from Turkish nationals living in The Netherlands, and I cannot blame The Netherlands government for refusing to be the venue for another nation’s election campaign. I doubt if we’d appreciate a Mexican national campaigning in L.A. among Mexican citizens to vote a certain way, therefore Holland (oops!) is within its sober self to say “no” to a Turk politician after votes for the Party in which he is affiliated.
    The Netherlands will soon enough see a voting battle royale between the present regime and Geert Wilders, who I hope is elected for The Netherlands’ own good and the EU’s disappointment.

  20. Wilders is Hope for Netherlands and a motivation for the other European countries.
    He,and few other European leaders, are honest to their people, the rest are traitors : Merkel, May, Hollande, the Pope…ALL OF them are in the final part of their sad careers … only their desastrous mistakes will remain .

    • New European leaders MUST allow the disarmed people of Europe to re-arm.

      Go to a scimitar fight with a gun.

  21. This is all caused by dual citizens who bear allegiance to their ancestoral homelands.

    Dual citizenship needs to be abolished in all Western democracies, as Third World immigrants are taking us all for fools.

    Citizens should only be allowed one passport.

    If they don’t like this, they can return to their home countries.

  22. The irony of Erdogan calling the Dutch “Nazis” when all the imagery of his political machine with the flags and chanting, and bullying tactics, is strongly reminiscent of 1930’s Nazi Brownshirts.

  23. Well all of this serves to underline the stupidity of ex-Prime Minister David Cameron who told the world he was very angry that the EU would not admit Turkey and that he was determined Turkey would be a member of the EU.

    Thank goodness we in the UK have got rid of one complete idiot in Government. Only another 500 or so to go.

    • “Thank goodness we in the UK have got rid of one complete idiot in Government. Only another 500 or so to go.

      Oh, boy, does that sentiment sound familiar to this Texas gal!”

      • That last quotation mark should have been at the end of the first paragraph – doesn’t make sense the way it is.

  24. The Turks massacred 1,500,000 Armenians and 750,000 Anatolian Greeks between 1914 and 1923. It is obvious that Hitler ‘noticed’ the ‘success’ of state ‘managed’ extermination of these non Muslim peoples. Hitler realised that the World nations had merely watched the systematic decade long Turkish pogroms in mock theatrical horror and disbelief. The rest is shameful history.

    • Yes. Hitler admired the Ummah. So did quite a few other Nazis.

      And after the fall of the Third Reich not a few Nazis scuttled off to the Dar al Islam and settled in as snug as bugs in a rug; and most of them did *not* hesitate to warble the shahada. It wasn’t such a big stretch to go from Nazism to Islam; from one totalitarian system, to another. One of the most prominent such former Nazi converts to Islam was an Islamophile scholar and Arabist, Johann Von Leers; but there were plenty of others, both ‘big fish’ and smaller. John Roy Carlson encountered a few of them, in 1948 (you will be amused to learn that he discovered that they were being driven round the bend by their attempts to organise Muslim Arab jihadis).

  25. “Dutch police used dogs and water cannon early on Sunday to disperse the crowd…”
    Bet the dogs had more of an effect than the water cannons if you know what I mean.

    • You mean because the Muslims insists that dogs are “spiritually unclean”?

      (Except for their own Salukis, of course.)

  26. I once inquired of a very good Serbian friend of mine, an Orthodox Christian, as to the location of the seat of the Eastern Orthodox Church — he replied Constantinople. There was no need to demur or question anything about his reply: Constantinople is, was and always will be Constantinople. Get the hell out of there Turkey.

    Neither are these very same Seljuks in Holland or Europe or anywhere there to truly assimilate but to colonise and conquer. Get out, right out, back to the steppes of Central Asia where you belong. And take your fascist, fake God with you.

  27. Usually the most fascist politicians and belief systems use labels like fascist, racist etc. against their foes. Since when does any foreign power have a right to politic in any foreign land? They don’t!

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